Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-24 Thread Marcus Chantry
Agreed, unfortunately we're not going to be able to attract any players of that 
calibre. I would like us to try and use the loan system better than we have in 
the past. 

When you look at players like sturridge on loan at bolton and wellbeck on loan 
at sunderland, they are players that have had big impacts and injected pace and 
flair to those two teams. Surely we should be able to attract players like that 
now that we are establishing ourselves in the premier league?




From: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com 
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tue May 24 15:58:40 2011
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified] 


wasnt there rumours 3 top 8 clubs wanted Adam in Jan ?  Why would he come to us 
?  Same for Parker.

Why would Lescott whens he on £100,000+ pw and an England international ?

And O'Neill is sitting waiting to manage one of the top 6 clubs. He wouldnt be 
interested in us. We could easily end up with a manager worse than MM, like we 
usually have had.




On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:


I assume Footballer of the Year Parker will choose one of the top six 
over Wolves, even if we were to match his wages.  
 
Not sure about Adam.  Isn't he another O'Hara/Milijas.  I thought we 
needed a replacement for Henry?


On 24 May 2011 15:38, Paul Taylor taylorpau...@hotmail.com wrote:


With Morgan spending on the stadium, it makes sense that he 
will spend on the squad too. What's the use of a nice new stadium in the 
Championship. 

Owen and Lescott would be nice, so what about a Parker and an 
Adam as well? 




Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats 
[sec=unclassified]

Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:16:06 +1000
From: lee.mor...@defence.gov.au
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com 


I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more 
optimistic about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm. 
 
It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about 
to be unleashed to.



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats 
[sec=unclassified]


Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be 
the way to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big 
capital outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in 
on loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the 
young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards 
the end of their career and that might be time to change now.
 
I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for 
much of last season.
 
 


 
On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry 
marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:


I wish Morgan could use his influence/business 
relationship to get Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is 
a natural goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  
Watching him on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still is – 
movement, pace, dragging defenders all over the place.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats 
[sec=unclassified]

 

Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a 
Rory Delap type player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, 
or balls..I mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.

 





From: nswolves@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mark worrall
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats 
[sec=unclassified]

We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, 
and on one was a match

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-24 Thread Steven Millward
Agree on all of that.

On 24 May 2011 16:13, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

 Agreed, unfortunately we're not going to be able to attract any players of
 that calibre. I would like us to try and use the loan system better than we
 have in the past.

 When you look at players like sturridge on loan at bolton and wellbeck on
 loan at sunderland, they are players that have had big impacts and injected
 pace and flair to those two teams. Surely we should be able to attract
 players like that now that we are establishing ourselves in the premier
 league?

  --
 *From*: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *To*: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Sent*: Tue May 24 15:58:40 2011

 *Subject*: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

  wasnt there rumours 3 top 8 clubs wanted Adam in Jan ?  Why would he come
 to us ?  Same for Parker.

 Why would Lescott whens he on £100,000+ pw and an England international ?

 And O'Neill is sitting waiting to manage one of the top 6 clubs. He wouldnt
 be interested in us. We could easily end up with a manager worse than MM,
 like we usually have had.



 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Steven Millward 
 millward@gmail.comwrote:

 I assume Footballer of the Year Parker will choose one of the top six over
 Wolves, even if we were to match his wages.

 Not sure about Adam.  Isn't he another O'Hara/Milijas.  I thought we
 needed a replacement for Henry?

   On 24 May 2011 15:38, Paul Taylor taylorpau...@hotmail.com wrote:

 With Morgan spending on the stadium, it makes sense that he will spend on
 the squad too. What's the use of a nice new stadium in the Championship.

 Owen and Lescott would be nice, so what about a Parker and an Adam as
 well?

 --
 Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
 Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:16:06 +1000
 From: lee.mor...@defence.gov.au
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com


 I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
 about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm.

 It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
 unleashed to.

  --
 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

  Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way
 to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital
 outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on
 loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the
 young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards
 the end of their career and that might be time to change now.

 I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of
 last season.





 On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.comwrote:

  I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get
 Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural
 goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him
 on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still is – movement,
 pace, dragging defenders all over the place.





 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Morris, Lee SGT
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]



 Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type
 player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I
 mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *mark worrall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a
 match from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be
 reminded how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really
 bought us.



 The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For
 goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for
 keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running,
 on a shoestring budget.



 Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment,
 passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one
 around and deserves full credit for it.







 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it seems that I am stubbornly

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-24 Thread Paul Taylor

Fair point. 

Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 16:13:19 +1000
From: marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com


Agreed, unfortunately we're not going to be able to attract any players of that 
calibre. I would like us to try and use the loan system better than we have in 
the past. 

When you look at players like sturridge on loan at bolton and wellbeck on loan 
at sunderland, they are players that have had big impacts and injected pace and 
flair to those two teams. Surely we should be able to attract players like that 
now that we are establishing ourselves in the premier league?




From: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com

To: nswolves@googlegroups.com nswolves@googlegroups.com

Sent: Tue May 24 15:58:40 2011
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]



wasnt there rumours 3 top 8 clubs wanted Adam in Jan ?  Why would he come to us 
?  Same for Parker.
Why would Lescott whens he on £100,000+ pw and an England international ?
And O'Neill is sitting waiting to manage one of the top 6 clubs. He wouldnt be 
interested in us. We could easily end up with a manager worse than MM, like we 
usually have had.




On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:

I assume Footballer of the Year Parker will choose one of the top six over 
Wolves, even if we were to match his wages.  
 
Not sure about Adam.  Isn't he another O'Hara/Milijas.  I thought we needed a 
replacement for Henry?


On 24 May 2011 15:38, Paul Taylor taylorpau...@hotmail.com wrote:


With Morgan spending on the stadium, it makes sense that he will spend on the 
squad too. What's the use of a nice new stadium in the Championship. 

Owen and Lescott would be nice, so what about a Parker and an Adam as well? 






Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:16:06 +1000
From: lee.mor...@defence.gov.au


To: nswolves@googlegroups.com 





I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic about 
the future, even with McCarthy at the helm. 


 
It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be unleashed 
to.



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steven Millward


Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]





Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way to go 
now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital outlay.  We 
should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on loan.  Lescott 
from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the young and hungry 
players from the fringes rather than those that are towards the end of their 
career and that might be time to change now.


 
I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last 
season.
 
 


 
On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:




I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get Michael Owen 
to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural goalscorer (maybe he 
could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him on Sunday for United 
highlighted how good a player he still is – movement, pace, dragging defenders 
all over the place.


 
 


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Morris, Lee SGT


Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]





 
Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type player, 
where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I mean some 
real creativity along with decisive defending.


 



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mark worrall


Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]


We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a match 
from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be reminded 
how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really bought us. 



 

The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For goal 
scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for keeping us 
there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running, on a 
shoestring budget.



 

Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment, passion 
and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one around and 
deserves full credit for it.

 

 

 


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:

I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to 
anything said against

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
I think Mick is staying, as you say Steve, he would have gone by now if
he was going...
 
The thing is, his heart is in the right place but his brain isn't. We
could get a much better manager, of that there is no doubt but none as
likeable or as passionate as Mick.
 
Our near neighbours stole the march on us...Woy as weally weally done
well, and they will consolidate now.


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 08:07
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats


Wolves won't hire Hughton because he is black.
 
If we were to change manager I'd hope for someone with Premier League
experience.  O'Neill, and Sam are the only two that are currently out of
work but I think it's unlikely we'd get either of them.  They both rely
on having money to spend too.  In fact the pool of managers that have
done well in the Premiership with little money is very small.
 
We could always follow the Wolves tradition of having ex-England
mangers...You know who I mean.
 
It's purely for fun anyway.  I can't see Morgan sacking Mick.  We were
in the bottom three most of the season and he didn't get rid.
 
It's funny how football management is a job that everyone thinks is easy
and that they could do.  It's not the same with anyone else's job is it?

 

 
On 23 May 2011 18:58, stephen nott sjn...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi all, Chris  Houghton would be the man of choice but will
probabley go to West Ham, the fact that we were so close to the drop
should be reason enough to sack Mick, i hear Brum need a good coech,
cheers ,Steve
 



From: pcr...@contechengineering.com
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:32:09 +1000 



Mick is a good Manager, the best the Wolves have had since John
Barnwell.

 

Is he the best man to take us to the next level?  I hope so but
personally do not think he is up to it. This season he has at times made
some fundamental mistakes, weird team selections and substitutions in my
opinion. His faith in Henry is blinkered and the most obvious
fundamental mistake  for me, no disrespect to him but he should not be
playing Central Midfield for a Premier league team! Don't like to keep
on harping about Left back but we do not have one and it has cost us
dear this season. When Van Damme left we should have had someone lined
up to replace him during the January transfer window, obvious to
everyone except MM. Baffling decision and it nearly cost us dear,
Elokobi has given away countless goals through poor defending this
second half of the season and cost us points. 

 

Sorry Steve, he is a very decent chap and I have been a big
supporter of his in the past but he lost me early in the New Year. Time
for a change, there is a better alternative available. Martin O'Neill
would be my choice followed by Chris Houghton. Also, why not try and
poach Phelan from Manure, worth a call?

 

All this is hypothetical though Steve, MM is going nowhere until
Xmas at the earliest.

 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com
http://www.contechengineering.com/ 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 3:48 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats

 

But you do support him?  Would you join me in agreeing that he
is an excellent manager?

On 23 May 2011 15:24, Marcus Chantry
marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

Where support is justified I shall provide my support.  Until
then I shall perform the role of silent subscriber on this list.

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 3:20 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats

 

Only seven more points needed.   Cut out some silly late points
lost and we'd be there.  WBA away for example.

 

Marcus, you've been very quiet today.  May I remind you that
under the terms of the bet: 

 

Marcus must publicly support Mick



 

On 23 May 2011 11:00, Rog  Reet rognr...@exemail.com.au
wrote:

Morgan wants to finish in the top 10 next season.

Did the commentators 

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
The Revolution? Get him in now!
 
The team will be coming out to Billy Bragg and we'll all be happy.



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 08:16
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats


Although I think Rog would like Hughton.  He apparently used to write a
column for the Workers Revolutionary Party's newspaper News Line.


 
On 24 May 2011 08:07, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:


Wolves won't hire Hughton because he is black.
 
If we were to change manager I'd hope for someone with Premier
League experience.  O'Neill, and Sam are the only two that are currently
out of work but I think it's unlikely we'd get either of them.  They
both rely on having money to spend too.  In fact the pool of managers
that have done well in the Premiership with little money is very small.
 
We could always follow the Wolves tradition of having ex-England
mangers...You know who I mean.
 
It's purely for fun anyway.  I can't see Morgan sacking Mick.
We were in the bottom three most of the season and he didn't get rid.
 
It's funny how football management is a job that everyone thinks
is easy and that they could do.  It's not the same with anyone else's
job is it?  
 

 
On 23 May 2011 18:58, stephen nott sjn...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi all, Chris  Houghton would be the man of choice but
will probabley go to West Ham, the fact that we were so close to the
drop should be reason enough to sack Mick, i hear Brum need a good
coech, cheers ,Steve
 



From: pcr...@contechengineering.com
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:32:09 +1000 



Mick is a good Manager, the best the Wolves have had
since John Barnwell.

 

Is he the best man to take us to the next level?  I hope
so but personally do not think he is up to it. This season he has at
times made some fundamental mistakes, weird team selections and
substitutions in my opinion. His faith in Henry is blinkered and the
most obvious fundamental mistake  for me, no disrespect to him but he
should not be playing Central Midfield for a Premier league team! Don't
like to keep on harping about Left back but we do not have one and it
has cost us dear this season. When Van Damme left we should have had
someone lined up to replace him during the January transfer window,
obvious to everyone except MM. Baffling decision and it nearly cost us
dear, Elokobi has given away countless goals through poor defending this
second half of the season and cost us points. 

 

Sorry Steve, he is a very decent chap and I have been a
big supporter of his in the past but he lost me early in the New Year.
Time for a change, there is a better alternative available. Martin
O'Neill would be my choice followed by Chris Houghton. Also, why not try
and poach Phelan from Manure, worth a call?

 

All this is hypothetical though Steve, MM is going
nowhere until Xmas at the earliest.

 

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com
http://www.contechengineering.com/ 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 3:48 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats

 

But you do support him?  Would you join me in agreeing
that he is an excellent manager?

On 23 May 2011 15:24, Marcus Chantry
marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

Where support is justified I shall provide my support.
Until then I shall perform the role of silent subscriber on this list.

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Monday, 23 May 2011 3:20 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats

 

Only seven more points needed.   Cut out some silly late
points lost and 

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Millward
I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

   - He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
   the success he's brought the club.
   - With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another manager
   punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think it's
   unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch next
   season.
   - We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
   championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
   those grounds
   - I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have in
   terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.
   - We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes it
   very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
   times.
   - Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to assume
   that he knows more about it than anyone else.

 This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy
O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central
defender.  That will remove some more of the championship team.  It wil
still be a low wage side though

Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next season?
Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet that Wolves will
finish above Albion.


On 24 May 2011 08:17, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

  I think Mick is staying, as you say Steve, he would have gone by now if
 he was going...

 The thing is, his heart is in the right place but his brain isn't. We could
 get a much better manager, of that there is no doubt but none as likeable or
 as passionate as Mick.

 Our near neighbours stole the march on us...Woy as weally weally done well,
 and they will consolidate now.
  --
  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 08:07
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats

  Wolves won't hire Hughton because he is black.

 If we were to change manager I'd hope for someone with Premier League
 experience.  O'Neill, and Sam are the only two that are currently out of
 work but I think it's unlikely we'd get either of them.  They both rely on
 having money to spend too.  In fact the pool of managers that have done well
 in the Premiership with little money is very small.

 We could always follow the Wolves tradition of having ex-England
 mangers...You know who I mean.

 It's purely for fun anyway.  I can't see Morgan sacking Mick.  We were in
 the bottom three most of the season and he didn't get rid.

 It's funny how football management is a job that everyone thinks is easy
 and that they could do.  It's not the same with anyone else's job is it?



 On 23 May 2011 18:58, stephen nott sjn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, Chris  Houghton would be the man of choice but will probabley go
 to West Ham, the fact that we were so close to the drop should be reason
 enough to sack Mick, i hear Brum need a good coech, cheers ,Steve

 --
 From: pcr...@contechengineering.com
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
 Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:32:09 +1000


  Mick is a good Manager, the best the Wolves have had since John
 Barnwell.



 Is he the best man to take us to the next level?  I hope so but personally
 do not think he is up to it. This season he has at times made some
 fundamental mistakes, weird team selections and substitutions in my opinion.
 His faith in Henry is blinkered and the most obvious fundamental mistake
  for me, no disrespect to him but he should not be playing Central Midfield
 for a Premier league team! Don’t like to keep on harping about Left back but
 we do not have one and it has cost us dear this season. When Van Damme left
 we should have had someone lined up to replace him during the January
 transfer window, obvious to everyone except MM. Baffling decision and it
 nearly cost us dear, Elokobi has given away countless goals through poor
 defending this second half of the season and cost us points.



 Sorry Steve, he is a very decent chap and I have been a big supporter of
 his in the past but he lost me early in the New Year. Time for a change,
 there is a better alternative available. Martin O’Neill would be my choice
 followed by Chris Houghton. Also, why not try and poach Phelan from Manure,
 worth a call?



 All this is hypothetical though Steve, MM is going nowhere until Xmas at
 the earliest.





 Paul Crowe

 Sales Manager - Asia Pacific



 ConTech (Sydney Office)



 PO Box 3517

 Rhodes Waterside

 Rhodes NSW  2138

 Tel: 02 

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
You want a bet on next season already. Thats like putting money of the
Melbourne Cup before you know who is running.
 
Early reports suggest O'Hara is going to be signed along with other
positions being addressed. If we get the players we want, I am confidant
we can do much better, the problem as been enticing good players to
Wolverhampton though...maybe our survival will make the better players
see stability at last.
 
Henry to QPR...lets start the revolution.
Quality leftback
Talk of Johnson from Blues
 
It is a season to be merrythe off season
 
Off to the UK to purchase my swanky new Wolves top on Thursday.
 
 
 


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 09:39
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]


I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen
to anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the
other camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these
points:

*   He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in
terms of the success he's brought the club. 
*   With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think
it's unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to
watch next season. 
*   We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won
the championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing
better on those grounds 
*   I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually
have in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much. 
*   We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten
makes it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really
good at times. 
*   Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to
assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

 This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy
O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central
defender.  That will remove some more of the championship team.  It wil
still be a low wage side though
 
Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next season?
Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet that Wolves
will finish above Albion.
 
 
On 24 May 2011 08:17, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:


I think Mick is staying, as you say Steve, he would have gone by
now if he was going...
 
The thing is, his heart is in the right place but his brain
isn't. We could get a much better manager, of that there is no doubt but
none as likeable or as passionate as Mick.
 
Our near neighbours stole the march on us...Woy as weally weally
done well, and they will consolidate now.


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 08:07
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats


Wolves won't hire Hughton because he is black.
 
If we were to change manager I'd hope for someone with Premier
League experience.  O'Neill, and Sam are the only two that are currently
out of work but I think it's unlikely we'd get either of them.  They
both rely on having money to spend too.  In fact the pool of managers
that have done well in the Premiership with little money is very small.
 
We could always follow the Wolves tradition of having ex-England
mangers...You know who I mean.
 
It's purely for fun anyway.  I can't see Morgan sacking Mick.
We were in the bottom three most of the season and he didn't get rid.
 
It's funny how football management is a job that everyone thinks
is easy and that they could do.  It's not the same with anyone else's
job is it?  
 

 
On 23 May 2011 18:58, stephen nott sjn...@hotmail.com wrote:


Hi all, Chris  Houghton would be the man of choice but
will probabley go to West Ham, the fact that we were so close to the
drop should be reason enough to sack Mick, i hear Brum need a good
coech, cheers ,Steve
 



From: pcr...@contechengineering.com
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:32:09 +1000 



Mick is a good Manager, the best the Wolves have had
since John Barnwell.

 

Is he the best man to take us to the next level?  I hope
so but personally do not think he is up to it. This season he has at
times made some

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Crowe
Hello Steve!

 

Funny you say that as I have been putting on my Rose coloured glasses again
these last couple of days.

 

Maybe you are right and we are better off with the Devil we know?

 

I like Mick and all Manager's make mistakes from time to time.

 

I am open to  walking back into the MM camp but will reserve judgement until
I see who he buys / sells in the transfer window this summer.

 

Now, where are we starting this Staying Up Party and when? Roger, are you
down here any time soon?

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 9:39 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 

I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

*   He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club.
*   With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch next
season.
*   We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds
*   I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.
*   We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes
it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
times.
*   Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to
assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

 This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy
O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central
defender.  That will remove some more of the championship team.  It wil
still be a low wage side though

 

Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next season?
Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet that Wolves will
finish above Albion.

 

 

On 24 May 2011 08:17, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

I think Mick is staying, as you say Steve, he would have gone by now if he
was going...

 

The thing is, his heart is in the right place but his brain isn't. We could
get a much better manager, of that there is no doubt but none as likeable or
as passionate as Mick.

 

Our near neighbours stole the march on us...Woy as weally weally done well,
and they will consolidate now.

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 08:07
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats

Wolves won't hire Hughton because he is black.

 

If we were to change manager I'd hope for someone with Premier League
experience.  O'Neill, and Sam are the only two that are currently out of
work but I think it's unlikely we'd get either of them.  They both rely on
having money to spend too.  In fact the pool of managers that have done well
in the Premiership with little money is very small.

 

We could always follow the Wolves tradition of having ex-England
mangers...You know who I mean.

 

It's purely for fun anyway.  I can't see Morgan sacking Mick.  We were in
the bottom three most of the season and he didn't get rid.

 

It's funny how football management is a job that everyone thinks is easy and
that they could do.  It's not the same with anyone else's job is it?  

 


 

On 23 May 2011 18:58, stephen nott sjn...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi all, Chris  Houghton would be the man of choice but will probabley go to
West Ham, the fact that we were so close to the drop should be reason enough
to sack Mick, i hear Brum need a good coech, cheers ,Steve
 

  _  

From: pcr...@contechengineering.com
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 16:32:09 +1000 

 

Mick is a good Manager, the best the Wolves have had since John Barnwell.

 

Is he the best man to take us to the next level?  I hope so but personally
do not think he is up to it. This season he has at times made some
fundamental mistakes, weird team selections and substitutions in my opinion.
His faith in Henry is blinkered and the most obvious fundamental mistake
for me, no disrespect to him but he should not be playing Central Midfield
for a Premier league team! Don't like to keep on harping about Left

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Millward
I suspect that Roy has had one of his characteristic streaks of good luck.
I think Mick and Roy will be in their jobs.  I can't see Albion spending
much in the summer though

I can see QPR spending more money than to buy a Henry.  I wonder what we'd
think of him when he was playing for another team.  I suspect his role is
not obvious but makes a big difference in breaking up play.

O'hara lives in Birmingham which I understand is quite nice now.  It can't
be much worse than Liverpool or Manchester can it?

Two seasons in it should be much easier to attract players.  I remember the
season we came up and how nobody wanted to come.  I think it should be
easier now.

On 24 May 2011 09:45, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

  You want a bet on next season already. Thats like putting money of the
 Melbourne Cup before you know who is running.

 Early reports suggest O'Hara is going to be signed along with other
 positions being addressed. If we get the players we want, I am confidant we
 can do much better, the problem as been enticing good players to
 Wolverhampton though...maybe our survival will make the better players see
 stability at last.

 Henry to QPR...lets start the revolution.
 Quality leftback
 Talk of Johnson from Blues

 It is a season to be merrythe off season

 Off to the UK to purchase my swanky new Wolves top on Thursday.



  --
  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 09:39
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

   I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen
 to anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the
 other camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

- He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club.
- With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch 
 next
season.
- We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds
- I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.
- We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes
it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
times.
- Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to
assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

  This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy
 O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central
 defender.  That will remove some more of the championship team.  It wil
 still be a low wage side though

 Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next season?
 Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet that Wolves will
 finish above Albion.


 On 24 May 2011 08:17, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

  I think Mick is staying, as you say Steve, he would have gone by now if
 he was going...

 The thing is, his heart is in the right place but his brain isn't. We
 could get a much better manager, of that there is no doubt but none as
 likeable or as passionate as Mick.

 Our near neighbours stole the march on us...Woy as weally weally done
 well, and they will consolidate now.
  --
  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 08:07
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats

  Wolves won't hire Hughton because he is black.

 If we were to change manager I'd hope for someone with Premier League
 experience.  O'Neill, and Sam are the only two that are currently out of
 work but I think it's unlikely we'd get either of them.  They both rely on
 having money to spend too.  In fact the pool of managers that have done well
 in the Premiership with little money is very small.

 We could always follow the Wolves tradition of having ex-England
 mangers...You know who I mean.

 It's purely for fun anyway.  I can't see Morgan sacking Mick.  We were in
 the bottom three most of the season and he didn't get rid.

 It's funny how football management is a job that everyone thinks is easy
 and that they could do.  It's not the same with anyone else's job is it?



 On 23 May 2011 18:58, stephen nott sjn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi all, Chris  Houghton would be the man of choice but will probabley go
 to West Ham, the fact that we were so close to the drop should be reason
 enough

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm. 
 
It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
unleashed to.



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]


Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way
to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big
capital outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than
Mancienne in on loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.
We've tended to get the young and hungry players from the fringes rather
than those that are towards the end of their career and that might be
time to change now.
 
I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of
last season.
 
 


 
On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com
wrote:


I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to
get Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a
natural goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).
Watching him on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still
is - movement, pace, dragging defenders all over the place.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
[sec=unclassified]

 

Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap
type player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or
balls..I mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.

 





From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mark worrall
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
[sec=unclassified]

We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one
was a match from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was
sobering to be reminded how bad wee were back then compared to now, and
far MM has really bought us. 

 

The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative
midfielders ? For goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us
into the PL / And for keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept
us there 2 seasons running, on a shoestring budget.

 

Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough
commitment, passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has
turned that one around and deserves full credit for it.

 

 

 

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward
millward@gmail.com wrote:

I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't
listen to anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself
in the other camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to
these points:

*   He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least
in terms of the success he's brought the club. 
*   With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could
another manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I
think it's unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting
one to watch next season. 
*   We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one
that won the championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be
doing better on those grounds 
*   I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they
actually have in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.

*   We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have
beaten makes it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked
really good at times. 
*   Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I
have to assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

 This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that
we'll buy O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and
a central defender.  That will remove some more of the championship
team.  It wil still be a low wage side though

 

Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next
season?  Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet
that Wolves will finish above Albion.

 

 

On 24 May 2011 08:17, Morris, Lee SGT
lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

I think Mick is staying, as you say Steve, he would have gone by
now if he was going...

 

The thing is, his heart is in the right place but his

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread mark worrall
MM should be targetting the player who wont want to stay at the relegated
clubs.  But Im sure he knows that, as thats how we got Doyle, Hunt,
Hahneman, etc.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Morris, Lee SGT
lee.mor...@defence.gov.auwrote:

  I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
 about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm.

 It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
 unleashed to.

  --
 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13

 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

  Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way
 to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital
 outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on
 loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the
 young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards
 the end of their career and that might be time to change now.

 I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last
 season.





 On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

  I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get
 Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural
 goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him
 on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still is – movement,
 pace, dragging defenders all over the place.





 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Morris, Lee SGT
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]



 Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type
 player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I
 mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *mark worrall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a
 match from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be
 reminded how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really
 bought us.



 The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For
 goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for
 keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running,
 on a shoestring budget.



 Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment,
 passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one
 around and deserves full credit for it.







 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
 anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
 camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

- He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club.
- With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think 
 it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch 
 next
season.
- We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds
- I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.
- We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes
it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
times.
- Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to
assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

   This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy
 O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central
 defender.  That will remove some more of the championship team.  It wil
 still be a low wage side though



 Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next season?
 Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet that Wolves will
 finish above Albion.





 On 24 May 2011 08:17, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

 I think Mick is staying, as you say Steve, he would have gone by now if he
 was going...



 The thing is, his heart

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Millward
Well there is 25m in the bank apparently

I can't help but think that with a decent stadium and under fair play rules
we should be in a great position with no debt.  A few more years and we
could be winning a cup.  Probably league though, not one of the good ones.


On 24 May 2011 13:16, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

  I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
 about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm.

 It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
 unleashed to.

  --
  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13

 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

   Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way
 to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital
 outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on
 loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the
 young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards
 the end of their career and that might be time to change now.

 I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last
 season.





 On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

  I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get
 Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural
 goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him
 on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still is – movement,
 pace, dragging defenders all over the place.





 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Morris, Lee SGT
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]



 Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type
 player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I
 mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *mark worrall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a
 match from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be
 reminded how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really
 bought us.



 The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For
 goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for
 keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running,
 on a shoestring budget.



 Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment,
 passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one
 around and deserves full credit for it.







 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
 anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
 camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

- He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club.
- With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think 
 it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch 
 next
season.
- We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds
- I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.
- We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes
it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
times.
- Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to
assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

   This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy
 O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central
 defender.  That will remove some more of the championship team.  It wil
 still be a low wage side though



 Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next season?
 Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet that Wolves will
 finish above Albion.





 On 24 May 2011 08:17, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

 I think Mick is staying

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Morris, Lee SGT
There are some quality players available based on that principle Mark. 
 
Scott Parker - West Ham
Charlie Adam - Blackpool
Johnson - Blues
 
Many many more
 
 



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of mark worrall
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:42
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]


MM should be targetting the player who wont want to stay at the
relegated clubs.  But Im sure he knows that, as thats how we got Doyle,
Hunt, Hahneman, etc.


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Morris, Lee SGT
lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:


I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more
optimistic about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm. 
 
It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to
be unleashed to.




From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Millward

Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13 

To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
[sec=unclassified]


Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be
the way to go now to give us that kick start to another level without
big capital outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than
Mancienne in on loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.
We've tended to get the young and hungry players from the fringes rather
than those that are towards the end of their career and that might be
time to change now.
 
I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for
much of last season.
 
 


 
On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry
marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:


I wish Morgan could use his influence/business
relationship to get Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract
and is a natural goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the
net).  Watching him on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player
he still is - movement, pace, dragging defenders all over the place.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Morris, Lee SGT
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
[sec=unclassified]

 

Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a
Rory Delap type player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw
ins, or balls..I mean some real creativity along with decisive
defending.

 





From: nswolves@googlegroups.com
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of mark worrall
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats
[sec=unclassified]

We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and
on one was a match from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was
sobering to be reminded how bad wee were back then compared to now, and
far MM has really bought us. 

 

The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative
midfielders ? For goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us
into the PL / And for keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept
us there 2 seasons running, on a shoestring budget.

 

Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt
enough commitment, passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly
has turned that one around and deserves full credit for it.

 

 

 

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward
millward@gmail.com wrote:

I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick
and won't listen to anything said against him.  I have been trying to
put myself in the other camp for the last few days but I keep coming
back to these points:

*   He is the best manager we've had for some time,
at least in terms of the success he's brought the club. 
*   With the side we have I think he's about on par.
Could another manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly,
but I think it's unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an
intersting one to watch next season. 
*   We still have a side that is 50% the same as the
one that won the championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should
be doing better on those grounds 
*   I also think Mick gets more out of the team than
they actually have in terms of quality.  The team seem

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Crowe
Any Cup would do Steve! 

 

I'd even settle for the Premier League version of the Freight Rover Trophy!
What a day that was!! Anybody else go to that game? I fondly recall the
impromptu games between Wolves and Burnley fans on the M1 during the traffic
jams!!

 

Paul Crowe

Sales Manager - Asia Pacific

 

ConTech (Sydney Office)

 

PO Box 3517

Rhodes Waterside

Rhodes NSW  2138

Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542

Mob: 0406009562

Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com

Website: www.contechengineering.com

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 1:46 PM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 

Well there is 25m in the bank apparently

 

I can't help but think that with a decent stadium and under fair play rules
we should be in a great position with no debt.  A few more years and we
could be winning a cup.  Probably league though, not one of the good ones.


 

On 24 May 2011 13:16, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm. 

 

It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
unleashed to.

 

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Steven Millward

Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13 


To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 

Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way to
go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital
outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on
loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the
young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards
the end of their career and that might be time to change now.

 

I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last
season.

 

 



 

On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get Michael
Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural goalscorer
(maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him on Sunday
for United highlighted how good a player he still is - movement, pace,
dragging defenders all over the place.

 

 

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Morris, Lee SGT
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 

Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type
player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I
mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.

 

  _  

From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of mark worrall
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a match
from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be reminded
how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really bought us.


 

The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For
goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for
keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running,
on a shoestring budget.

 

Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment,
passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one
around and deserves full credit for it.

 

 

 

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
wrote:

I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

*   He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club. 
*   With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch next
season. 
*   We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds 
*   I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much. 
*   We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes
it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
times. 
*   Despite appearing

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Taylor

With Morgan spending on the stadium, it makes sense that he will spend on the 
squad too. What's the use of a nice new stadium in the Championship. 

Owen and Lescott would be nice, so what about a Parker and an Adam as well? 

Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:16:06 +1000
From: lee.mor...@defence.gov.au
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com








I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am 
more optimistic about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm. 

 
It is quite possible that the next level of spending is 
about to be unleashed to.



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven 
Millward
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13
To: 
nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white 
coats [sec=unclassified]



Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the 
way to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital 
outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on 
loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended 
to get the young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are 
towards the end of their career and that might be time to change now.
 
I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of 
last season.
 
 


 
On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com 
wrote:


  
  
  I wish Morgan 
  could use his influence/business relationship to get Michael Owen to come to 
  us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural goalscorer (maybe he could 
  teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him on Sunday for United 
  highlighted how good a player he still is – movement, pace, dragging 
defenders 
  all over the place.
   
   
  
  
  From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Morris, Lee 
  SGT
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] 
  Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
  
  
  
   
  Agreed. We just 
  need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type player, where our whole 
  game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I mean some real creativity 
  along with decisive defending.
   
  
  
  
  From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of mark 
  worrall
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] 
  Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
  We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on 
  one was a match from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering 
  to be reminded how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has 
  really bought us. 
  
   
  
  The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative 
  midfielders ? For goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the 
  PL / And for keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 
  seasons running, on a shoestring budget.
  
   
  
  Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough 
  commitment, passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has 
  turned that one around and deserves full credit for it.
  
   
  
   
  
   
  
  
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com 
wrote:
  
  I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and 
  won't listen to anything said against him.  I have been trying to put 
  myself in the other camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to 
  these points:
  
  
He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least 
in terms of the success he's brought the club. 
With the side we have I think he's about on par.  
Could another manager punch further above our current weight?  
Possibly, but I think it's unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be 
an intersting one to watch next season. 
We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one 
that won the championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be 
doing better on those grounds 
I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they 
actually have in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very 
much. 
We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we 
have beaten makes it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have 
looked really good at times. 
Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I 
have to assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.
  
   This next season is probably do or die though.  
  I assume that we'll buy O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left 
  back and a central defender.  That will remove some more of the 
  championship team.  It wil still be a low wage side though
  
   
  
  Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion 
  next season?  Same consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  
  I bet that Wolves

RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Taylor

Look what happened to the last team that won the League Cup. 

Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:45:31 +1000
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
From: millward@gmail.com
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com

Well there is 25m in the bank apparently
 
I can't help but think that with a decent stadium and under fair play rules we 
should be in a great position with no debt.  A few more years and we could be 
winning a cup.  Probably league though, not one of the good ones.


 
On 24 May 2011 13:16, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:



I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic about 
the future, even with McCarthy at the helm. 

 
It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be unleashed 
to.




From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steven Millward

Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13 



To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]







Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way to go 
now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital outlay.  We 
should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on loan.  Lescott 
from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the young and hungry 
players from the fringes rather than those that are towards the end of their 
career and that might be time to change now.

 
I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last 
season.
 
 


 
On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:




I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get Michael Owen 
to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural goalscorer (maybe he 
could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him on Sunday for United 
highlighted how good a player he still is – movement, pace, dragging defenders 
all over the place.

 
 


From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Morris, Lee SGT

Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]




 
Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type player, 
where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I mean some 
real creativity along with decisive defending.

 



From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mark worrall

Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a match 
from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be reminded 
how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really bought us. 


 

The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For goal 
scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for keeping us 
there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running, on a 
shoestring budget.


 

Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment, passion 
and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one around and 
deserves full credit for it.


 

 

 


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com wrote:

I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to 
anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other 
camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:



He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of the 
success he's brought the club. 
With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another manager punch 
further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think it's unsustainable in 
the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch next season. 
We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the championship. 
 It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on those grounds 
I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have in terms of 
quality.  The team seem to like him very much. 
We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes it very 
hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at times. 
Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to assume that he 
knows more about it than anyone else.

 This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy O'Hara 
plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central defender.  
That will remove some more of the championship team.  It wil still be a low 
wage side though


 

Lee do you fancy a bet on the position of Wolves and Albion next season?  Same 
consequences as my bet with Marcus this season.  I bet that Wolves will finish 
above Albion.

 

 



On 24

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Millward
At least they've got Europe to look forward to.

They've been drawn against Rapid Decline and then Inter Administration

On 24 May 2011 15:40, Paul Taylor taylorpau...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Look what happened to the last team that won the League Cup.

 --
 Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:45:31 +1000

 Subject: Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
 From: millward@gmail.com

 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com

 Well there is 25m in the bank apparently

 I can't help but think that with a decent stadium and under fair play rules
 we should be in a great position with no debt.  A few more years and we
 could be winning a cup.  Probably league though, not one of the good ones.


 On 24 May 2011 13:16, Morris, Lee SGT lee.mor...@defence.gov.au wrote:

  I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
 about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm.

 It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
 unleashed to.

  --
  *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13

 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

   Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way
 to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital
 outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on
 loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the
 young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards
 the end of their career and that might be time to change now.

 I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last
 season.





 On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

  I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get
 Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural
 goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him
 on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still is – movement,
 pace, dragging defenders all over the place.





 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Morris, Lee SGT
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]



 Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type
 player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I
 mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *mark worrall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a match
 from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be reminded
 how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really bought us.




 The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For
 goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for
 keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running,
 on a shoestring budget.



 Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment,
 passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one
 around and deserves full credit for it.







 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
 anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
 camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

- He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club.
- With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch 
 next
season.
- We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds
- I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.
- We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes
it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
times.
- Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to
assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

   This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread Steven Millward
I assume Footballer of the Year Parker will choose one of the top six over
Wolves, even if we were to match his wages.

Not sure about Adam.  Isn't he another O'Hara/Milijas.  I thought we needed
a replacement for Henry?

On 24 May 2011 15:38, Paul Taylor taylorpau...@hotmail.com wrote:

 With Morgan spending on the stadium, it makes sense that he will spend on
 the squad too. What's the use of a nice new stadium in the Championship.

 Owen and Lescott would be nice, so what about a Parker and an Adam as well?


 --
 Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
 Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:16:06 +1000
 From: lee.mor...@defence.gov.au
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com


 I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
 about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm.

 It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
 unleashed to.

  --
 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

  Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way
 to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital
 outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on
 loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the
 young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards
 the end of their career and that might be time to change now.

 I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last
 season.





 On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.com wrote:

  I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get
 Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural
 goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him
 on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still is – movement,
 pace, dragging defenders all over the place.





 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Morris, Lee SGT
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]



 Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type
 player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I
 mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.


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 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *mark worrall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a match
 from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be reminded
 how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really bought us.




 The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For
 goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for
 keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running,
 on a shoestring budget.



 Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment,
 passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one
 around and deserves full credit for it.







 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
 anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
 camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

- He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club.
- With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch 
 next
season.
- We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds
- I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much.
- We've beaten some very good teams.  The number we have beaten makes
it very hard to put down to fluke.  I think we have looked really good at
times.
- Despite appearing to make bad decisions in selection, I have to
assume that he knows more about it than anyone else.

   This next season is probably do or die though.  I assume that we'll buy
 O'Hara plus a couple of other players, such as a left back and a central
 defender

Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

2011-05-23 Thread mark worrall
wasnt there rumours 3 top 8 clubs wanted Adam in Jan ?  Why would he come to
us ?  Same for Parker.

Why would Lescott whens he on £100,000+ pw and an England international ?

And O'Neill is sitting waiting to manage one of the top 6 clubs. He wouldnt
be interested in us. We could easily end up with a manager worse than MM,
like we usually have had.



On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.comwrote:

 I assume Footballer of the Year Parker will choose one of the top six over
 Wolves, even if we were to match his wages.

 Not sure about Adam.  Isn't he another O'Hara/Milijas.  I thought we needed
 a replacement for Henry?

 On 24 May 2011 15:38, Paul Taylor taylorpau...@hotmail.com wrote:

 With Morgan spending on the stadium, it makes sense that he will spend on
 the squad too. What's the use of a nice new stadium in the Championship.

 Owen and Lescott would be nice, so what about a Parker and an Adam as
 well?

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 Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]
 Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:16:06 +1000
 From: lee.mor...@defence.gov.au
 To: nswolves@googlegroups.com


 I know you probably don't think so Steve, but even I am more optimistic
 about the future, even with McCarthy at the helm.

 It is quite possible that the next level of spending is about to be
 unleashed to.

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 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steven Millward
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 13:13
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

  Interesting idea.  A couple of loan or bosman signings might be the way
 to go now to give us that kick start to another level without big capital
 outlay.  We should be able to get some better players than Mancienne in on
 loan.  Lescott from City?  Most other clubs do it.  We've tended to get the
 young and hungry players from the fringes rather than those that are towards
 the end of their career and that might be time to change now.

 I still can hardly believe we stayed up.  It looked bleak for much of last
 season.





 On 24 May 2011 10:18, Marcus Chantry marcus.chan...@macquarie.comwrote:

  I wish Morgan could use his influence/business relationship to get
 Michael Owen to come to us.  The guy is off contract and is a natural
 goalscorer (maybe he could teach Doyle how to find the net).  Watching him
 on Sunday for United highlighted how good a player he still is – movement,
 pace, dragging defenders all over the place.





 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Morris, Lee SGT
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:15 AM
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]



 Agreed. We just need some quality now. I don't mean a Rory Delap type
 player, where our whole game revolves around lonmg throw ins, or balls..I
 mean some real creativity along with decisive defending.


  --

 *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
 Behalf Of *mark worrall
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 May 2011 10:04
 *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Get the men in white coats [sec=unclassified]

 We were playing some old Wolves DVDs on the weekend, and on one was a
 match from the Championship against Watford pre-MM. It was sobering to be
 reminded how bad wee were back then compared to now, and far MM has really
 bought us.



 The need for tough tackling midfielders ? For creative midfielders ? For
 goal scorers ? For a manager capable of getting us into the PL / And for
 keeping us there ? MM got us there, and has kept us there 2 seasons running,
 on a shoestring budget.



 Remember all the fans constantly moaning there wasnt enough commitment,
 passion and desire to win ?  'Wasters' ? MM clearly has turned that one
 around and deserves full credit for it.







 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Steven Millward millward@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it seems that I am stubbornly in favour of Mick and won't listen to
 anything said against him.  I have been trying to put myself in the other
 camp for the last few days but I keep coming back to these points:

- He is the best manager we've had for some time, at least in terms of
the success he's brought the club.
- With the side we have I think he's about on par.  Could another
manager punch further above our current weight?  Possibly, but I think 
 it's
unsustainable in the long term.  Roy will be an intersting one to watch 
 next
season.
- We still have a side that is 50% the same as the one that won the
championship.  It's hard to argue that the team should be doing better on
those grounds
- I also think Mick gets more out of the team than they actually have
in terms of quality.  The team seem to like him very much