Re: [NTG-context] followup metapost textext?

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans van der Meer wrote:

Followup to my previous post (see below)

I executed the code on the live tex site and, mirabile dictu, there it 
works.
The difference I can see is a much older pdfetex (Version 
3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)) on the live site, whereas I have a 
newer one (Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)).


Could that be the problem or must I dig deeper?


It is not likely that this is the problem, unless you have
'stray' pdfetex executables floating around (with different
version numbers) in other folders.

It is more likely there is some interference with your pre-existing
teTeX 3, but without the actual output and log files I do not know
what to suggest as next step.

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] \useblocks in section

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:

Hans, that worked. Code below. Is this something you will fix in one  
of the core files?


sure, for the moment put the patch in cont-new.tex

(i'll post an update as soon as we have the french interface integrated; 
needs some synchronization)


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Re: [NTG-context] About paragraph columns in table environment

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:


Radhelorn wrote:





Something like this:

| There are so |
| me rather lo |
| ng titles th |
| a needs to b |
| e typeset.   |






only for stupid text:

\def\HowStrange#1{#1\ifx#1\blankspace\else\allowbreak\fi}

\framed
 [width=2cm,align={normal,verytolerant,stretch}]
 {\handletokens There are some rather long titles that needs to be 
typeset.\with\HowStrange}


you're not serious about this are you?



I'm curious as well. What is this for?

actually, this years pragma new-year card uses something like this but a 
bit more advanced (you've seen it -)


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Re: [NTG-context] How to setup this type of header?

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Gerben Wierda wrote:


On 21 Dec 2005, at 20:44, David Arnold wrote:


Gerben, have we not installed the cont-fnt.zip Taco describes?



The ConTeXt updater i-Package contains:

cont-ext.zip
cont-fnt.zip
cont-img.zip
cont-tmf.zip

and it has whatever is on Hans' site not more than 24hr out of date.


since gwtex is the most up to date of the public distributions, there is 
normally no need to fetch the zips directly; best use gerbens updater; 
when i post a patch to the list, one can include it in cont-new.tex 
which will b eoverwritten when updating 


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Re: [NTG-context] Answer blocks potential

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

David Arnold wrote:


Hans, Taco, et al,

I've looked at the question-answer block suggestion and it has good  
potential for what I want to do. What I need now is a way of  
typesetting the blocks as follows.


1. Question   2. Question
3. Question   4. Question

Then, later in the document, I'll unhide the answer blocks.

Is it worth my while to try to use question-answer blocks in an  
itemized environment? should I pursue that or try a different tack?


no. it can only be used at the outer level

Hans

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[NTG-context] new type-dis.tex

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Hi,

I've run some tests myself, and that last type-dis I posted
seems to work.

Attached is my test file, and the pdf looks good on my system.
It would be nice if someone else can verify, so we
can finally fix the core distribution afterwards.

Taco

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Gerben Wierda wrote:


After installing type-dis and regenerating cont-en I get

w-helvetica.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/ 
context/ec

-urw-courier.map}]
systems : end file ftest at line 11
kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72  



That's not right either (duh). Sorry

How is about the next one (attached)? Expected behaviour:
It should find and use the fonts from cont-fnt.tex (and generate
an error message about missing ec-ptmr8t otherwise).


Taco




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pos.tex
Description: TeX document
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[NTG-context] Red framed text

2005-12-22 Thread Jilani Khaldi

Hi All,
1) I looks correct but I can't get  the word Attention! written in red 
color inside a red frame.


\setupframedtexts[bodyfont=small,framecolor=red]
\startframedtext[width=.8\makeupwidth]
\color[red]{\bf Attention!}\blank
bla bla bla...
\stopframedtext

What am I missing? And what about a shaded frame?
Thanks!

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Re: [NTG-context] Red framed text

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Jilani Khaldi wrote:

What am I missing? 


Missing \setupcolors[state=start] maybe? (works for me)


And what about a shaded frame?


You mean like a dropshadow or so?

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] setupheadnumber loses table of contents

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



David Arnold wrote:

All, in the following example, if I uncomment

%\setupheadnumber[chapter][2]

then I lose my table of contents. Should that be happening?


It work ok if you use:

   \completecontent[criterium=all]

but I'm unsure whether or not the disappearance was intentional

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Re: [NTG-context] new type-dis.tex

2005-12-22 Thread VnPenguin
On 12/22/05, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I've run some tests myself, and that last type-dis I posted
 seems to work.

 Attached is my test file, and the pdf looks good on my system.
 It would be nice if someone else can verify, so we
 can finally fix the core distribution afterwards.


Test failed for me :(

Log file: http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/tmp/pos.log

I'm using:

 TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

   texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
   texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2004
   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.5-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
   context : ver: 2005.12.19
   cont-en : ver: 2005.12.19  fmt: 2005.12.22  mes: english

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[NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Please give it a try and let me know if you run into trouble.
(you have to replace your current one of course, and regenerate
the format).


So, the original urw files (u*) are no longer shipped? Great, that was 
the only font area left that could break ... so it means that (apart 
from the minimals on the tex collection, context does not work in the 
regular tex live 2005 distribution). Time to move everything that is 
subjected to changes in the base zip -)


Should i replace the current type-dis by this one?
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Re: [NTG-context] Chinese in current ConTeXt

2005-12-22 Thread Richard Gabriel




Hi Tobias (and Hans),I've played with this a bit. It seems that the nested group breaks things inside the \installlanguage macro.The following works OK:\c!date={\v!year,\cnyear,\v!month,\v!day,\cnday}...but I can't use the \cnencoding switch... [Is it really necessary here? It works for me even without it...]Another minor issues: 1. \v!month gives chinese number with the month symbol [so appending \cnmonth once more is undesired].I guess the resulting date is a bit inconsistent - there should be all Arabic numbers or all Chinese, not mixed.2. \v!day give the day number with a leading space which is obviously undesired in Chinese...Hans, could you please take a look at this? (not a priority)...Thanks,RichardFrom: Tobias Burnus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:45:25 +0100Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Chinese in current ConTeXtHi,Xiao Jianfeng wrote:  It should be "year年month月day日".I somehow failed to to get the following working; I'm actually too tired (3 a.m) to follow the macro expansion in-   \c!date={\v!month,\ ,\v!day,{,\ },\v!year},+   \c!date={\v!year,{\cnencoding\cnyear},\v!month,{\cnencoding\cnmonth},\v!year,{\cnencoding\cnday}},In any case the year/month/day characters in unicode/gbk/big5 are:@@ -110,0 +111,3 @@+  \definecommand cnyear{\uchar{94}{116}}+  \definecommand cnmonth   {\uchar{103}{8}}+  \definecommand cnday {\uchar{101}{229}}@@ -158,0 +162,3 @@+  \definecommand cnyear{\uchar{196}{234}}+  \definecommand cnmonth   {\uchar{212}{194}}+  \definecommand cnday {\uchar{200}{213}}@@ -204,0 +211,3 @@+  \definecommand cnyear{\uchar{166}{126}}+  \definecommand cnmonth   {\uchar{164}{235}}+  \definecommand cnday {\uchar{164}{233}}Tobias___ntg-context mailing listntg-context@ntg.nlhttp://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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Re: [NTG-context] Chinese in current ConTeXt

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Richard Gabriel wrote:


Hi Tobias (and Hans),

I've played with this a bit.
It seems that the nested group breaks things inside the 
\installlanguage macro.

The following works OK:

\c!date={\v!year,\cnyear,\v!month,\v!day,\cnday}

...but I can't use the \cnencoding switch... [Is it really necessary 
here? It works for me even without it...]



this is fixed



Another minor issues:
1. \v!month gives chinese number with the month symbol [so appending 
\cnmonth once more is undesired].
I guess the resulting date is a bit inconsistent - there should be all 
Arabic numbers or all Chinese, not mixed.


what is convention in china?

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] new type-dis.tex

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater

VnPenguin wrote:

On 12/22/05, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I've run some tests myself, and that last type-dis I posted
seems to work.

Attached is my test file, and the pdf looks good on my system.
It would be nice if someone else can verify, so we
can finally fix the core distribution afterwards.




Test failed for me :(

Log file: http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/tmp/pos.log


Your pdfetex is loading the wrong map files (actually it only
loads pdftex.map, nothing else), and that will not work.

Perhaps you put a \pdfmapfile{pdftex.map} line in your cont-sys?


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans Hagen wrote:


So, the original urw files (u*) are no longer shipped? Great, that was 
the only font area left that could break ... so it means that (apart 
from the minimals on the tex collection, context does not work in the 
regular tex live 2005 distribution). Time to move everything that is 
subjected to changes in the base zip -)


The URW metrics are in texlive2005 (in fonts-recommended), but not
in teTeX 3 (most likely they are available in gwtex as well).

But they are nowhere distributed in 8y encoding. And we have
cont-fnt.zip now anyway, so this was a good moment to clean up
type-dis.


Should i replace the current type-dis by this one?


My last one, yes. The one that only has lm-cm synonyms, nothing else.

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Small Chinese translation

2005-12-22 Thread Xiao Jianfeng

Richard Gabriel wrote:


Hello Hans, Tobias and others,

with help of Xiao Jianfeng, I've added the missing Chinese 
localizations into lang-chi.tex (as Tobias reported). I also attach a 
simple test file.

Could you please review it and add it to the distribution it it's all OK?

I only had a small problem - I was unable to recode the glyphs into 
BIG5 (using iconv). Does anybody guess why or could anybody try it 
with another tool?


Below is the original message from Xiao for reference that the glyphs 
are encoded OK.


I've also tried to format the date correctly (see my previous message).

-Richard


Graphics  图
Intermezzo (singular) 插曲
 (this is a figurative use of 插曲, but I think it's not proper, I
  will try to consult some people who is good at TeXing)
Intermezzos (plural)  插曲
Illustration  插图
Line (singular)   行
Lines (plural)行

 (from another email)

If there's no Chinese equivalent for intermezzo, I'd suggest to let
the label empty...


   I think it would be OK if you leave intermezzo unchanged without
translation or just use 插曲.



  Sorry, I discussed this with my friends just now, and the result is
  插曲 is not proper here.

  I think leaving intermezzo unchanged in Chinese module is OK, and I
  will let you know as soon as we find a proper translation.

  Regards,

  xiaojf


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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Small Chinese translation

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Richard Gabriel wrote:


Hello Hans, Tobias and others,

with help of Xiao Jianfeng, I've added the missing Chinese 
localizations into lang-chi.tex (as Tobias reported). I also attach a 
simple test file.

Could you please review it and add it to the distribution it it's all OK?

I only had a small problem - I was unable to recode the glyphs into 
BIG5 (using iconv). Does anybody guess why or could anybody try it 
with another tool?


Below is the original message from Xiao for reference that the glyphs 
are encoded OK.


I've also tried to format the date correctly (see my previous message).


ok
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Re: [NTG-context] Chinese in current ConTeXt

2005-12-22 Thread Richard Gabriel




 1. \v!month gives chinese number with the month symbol [so appending  \cnmonth once more is undesired]. I guess the resulting date is a bit inconsistent - there should be all  Arabic numbers or all Chinese, not mixed.what is convention in china?From Xiao Jianfeng:In Arabic number, today is "2005年12月22日", and in Chinese number,today is "二○○五年十二月二十二日". Both are often used, and theformer is more popular now, because it is easier to write or typewith keyboard.So it's up to you... -Richard ___
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[NTG-context] Some things I don't understand about typescripts...

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Christmas is approaching, and I hate to be a pest this time of the  
year, but there's this problem that really bothers me: I'm still  
working hard to release version 2 of my Greek module on the  
unsuspecting masses. It will define all fonts in a typescript instead  
of as single fonts to allow switches like {\em } etc. It appears that  
the typescript mechanism creates some problems. The most serious one  
for me is that it seems to demand a full list of sizes that can be  
used in this form:


\definebodyfont
[30pt,25pt,20pt,18pt,17.3pt,14.4pt,14pt,12pt,11pt,11.5pt,10pt,9pt,8pt, 
7pt,6pt,5pt,4pt]

[rm]
[default]

If I specify a bodyfont with a size that's not in this list
\setupbodyfont[somebodyfont,19.7pt]
I get no errors, but no output either :-( If I add 19.7pt to the  
list, everything works again. Is there an explanation for this behavior?


It also looks like I should define a math font for these Greek fonts.  
It looks like ConTeXt will try to get certain symbols from math if  
they're not defined in the bodyfont. Is there a syntax for creating a  
default math font for an entire set of typescripts? I tried this


\starttypescript
\definetypeface [all] [mm] [math]  [times][default]  
[encoding=default]

\starttypescript

but it doesn't seem to work, if a symbol like \textdoublebracketleft  
is used, compilation will fail with this error:


! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.
\mathematics #1-\relax \ifmmode #1\else $#1$
 \fi
\doutfunihashglyph ...#1\endcsname {#2}\endcsname
  \else  
\strippedcsname \uni...


Any suggestions would be welcome; apart from these problems, I'm  
basically done with the work.


All best

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Re: [NTG-context] new type-dis.tex

2005-12-22 Thread VnPenguin
On 12/22/05, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 VnPenguin wrote:
  On 12/22/05, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've run some tests myself, and that last type-dis I posted
 seems to work.
 
 Attached is my test file, and the pdf looks good on my system.
 It would be nice if someone else can verify, so we
 can finally fix the core distribution afterwards.
 
 
 
  Test failed for me :(
 
  Log file: http://people.vnoss.org/~vnpenguin/pub/tmp/pos.log

 Your pdfetex is loading the wrong map files (actually it only
 loads pdftex.map, nothing else), and that will not work.

 Perhaps you put a \pdfmapfile{pdftex.map} line in your cont-sys?


Hmm, in texmf-local/tex/context/ :

 find . -name cont-sys*
./base/cont-sys.tex
./base/cont-sys.ori
./user/cont-sys.rme

 find . -name cont-sys* | xargs grep mapfile
./base/cont-sys.ori:\autoloadmapfilestrue
./base/cont-sys.ori:% \preloadmapfile[...somenamemap]
./base/cont-sys.ori:% \resetmapfiles \usetypescript [map] [base] [all]
./base/cont-sys.ori:\resetmapfiles
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[texnansi-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[ec-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[qx-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[t5-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  %loadmapfile[il2-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  %loadmapfile[pl0-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[8r-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[original-ams-euler.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[texnansi-public-lm.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[ec-public-lm.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[qx-public-lm.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  \loadmapfile[t5-public-lm.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  %loadmapfile[pl0-public-lm.map]
./base/cont-sys.ori:  %loadmapfile[il2-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:\autoloadmapfilestrue
./user/cont-sys.rme:% \preloadmapfile[...somenamemap]
./user/cont-sys.rme:% \resetmapfiles \usetypescript [map] [base] [all]
./user/cont-sys.rme:\resetmapfiles
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[original-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[texnansi-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[ec-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[qx-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[t5-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  %loadmapfile[il2-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  %loadmapfile[pl0-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[8r-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[original-ams-base.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[original-ams-euler.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[original-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[texnansi-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[ec-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[qx-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  \loadmapfile[t5-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  %loadmapfile[pl0-public-lm.map]
./user/cont-sys.rme:  %loadmapfile[il2-public-lm.map]

I can't found pdftex.map

Any ideas ?

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Re: [NTG-context] Some things I don't understand about typescripts...

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
Christmas is approaching, and I hate to be a pest this time of the  
year, but there's this problem that really bothers me: I'm still  
working hard to release version 2 of my Greek module on the  
unsuspecting masses. It will define all fonts in a typescript instead  
of as single fonts to allow switches like {\em } etc. It appears that  
the typescript mechanism creates some problems. The most serious one  
for me is that it seems to demand a full list of sizes that can be  used 
in this form:


\definebodyfont
[30pt,25pt,20pt,18pt,17.3pt,14.4pt,14pt,12pt,11pt,11.5pt,10pt,9pt,8pt, 
7pt,6pt,5pt,4pt]

[rm]
[default]


This

  \definebodyfont [default] [rm] [tf=, ] % ...

should work, afaik



If I specify a bodyfont with a size that's not in this list
\setupbodyfont[somebodyfont,19.7pt]
I get no errors, but no output either :-( If I add 19.7pt to the  list, 
everything works again. Is there an explanation for this behavior?


Before that call, you may need to do

  \definebodyfontenvironment [19.7pt]

as well (not sure)

It also looks like I should define a math font for these Greek fonts.  
It looks like ConTeXt will try to get certain symbols from math if  
they're not defined in the bodyfont. Is there a syntax for creating a  
default math font for an entire set of typescripts? I tried this


\starttypescript
\definetypeface [all] [mm] [math]  [times][default]  
[encoding=default]


Replacing [all] with [tsgreek] (or whatever you typescript is named)
should work.

Hope this helps,

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] new type-dis.tex

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



VnPenguin wrote:

Hmm, in texmf-local/tex/context/ :



find . -name cont-sys*


./base/cont-sys.tex
./base/cont-sys.ori
./user/cont-sys.rme

I can't found pdftex.map

Any ideas ?


Looks like your cont-sys.tex is out of date (because it
contains no \loadmapfile lines at all). I suggest updating
base/cont-sys.tex by comparing it to base/cont-sys.ori

Cheers,

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Re: [NTG-context] Some things I don't understand about typescripts...

2005-12-22 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

Taco,

thanks again for your help!!

On Dec 22, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:



This

  \definebodyfont [default] [rm] [tf=, ] % ...

should work, afaik

Not here, I get errors:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again
   \futurelet
\doprocesscommaitem -\futurelet
 \nexttoken \dodoprocesscommaitem
argument rm]\doprocesscommaitem
  ]\relax \global \advance  
\commalevel \minu...


\ifundefined #1-\unless \ifcsname #1
 \endcsname
\dododododefinebodyfont ...\ifundefined {#1#3#4#5}
  \checkbodyfont {#1} 
{#3#4}{...

l.71 ...c!x=4pt,\c!xx=4pt,\c!big=6pt,\c!small=4pt]

?



Before that call, you may need to do

  \definebodyfontenvironment [19.7pt]

as well (not sure)


Sigh... It works, but it destroys the scaling mechanism built into  
the module...




Replacing [all] with [tsgreek] (or whatever you typescript is named)
should work.

That was my question: the typescriptfile contains about 25 typefaces.  
Is there a way to specify one math font for all of them, or do I have  
to go the laborious way of adding such a line to every single one of  
them?


Thanks!

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Re: [NTG-context] Some things I don't understand about typescripts...

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

Taco,

thanks again for your help!!

On Dec 22, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:




This

  \definebodyfont [default] [rm] [tf=, ] % ...

should work, afaik


Not here, I get errors:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again


(I'll leave this for Hans)


Replacing [all] with [tsgreek] (or whatever you typescript is named)
should work.

That was my question: the typescriptfile contains about 25 typefaces.  
Is there a way to specify one math font for all of them, or do I have  
to go the laborious way of adding such a line to every single one of  them?


Assuming you have them inside \starttypescript-s, you could replace

  [all] with [\typecriptone]

globally.

I'll be happy to test what you have now, if needed.

Cheers, Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Some things I don't understand about typescripts...

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Taco Hoekwater wrote:



Assuming you have them inside \starttypescript-s, you could replace

  [all] with [\typecriptone]


Perhaps my sloppy typing lately is a side-effect of all those
spelling reform discussions in the netherlands lately. :-/

Make that: [\typescriptone]

Sorry,

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Chinese in current ConTeXt

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Richard Gabriel wrote:


 1. \v!month gives chinese number with the month symbol [so appending
 \cnmonth once more is undesired].
 I guess the resulting date is a bit inconsistent - there should be all
 Arabic numbers or all Chinese, not mixed.

what is convention in china?

From Xiao Jianfeng:

In Arabic number, today is 2005年12月22日, and in Chinese number,
today is 二○○五年十二月二十二日. Both are often used, and the
former is more popular now, because it is easier to write or type
with keyboard.


So it's up to you...


ok, so send me the def's that correspond to the former (2005  )
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[NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


Taco, Gerben, et al,

 From Taco's note: Uncomment the next if you have not installed 
cont- fnt.zip, but instead have a working LaTeX installation.



My bad, I keep forgetting that there are references to non-existent
metric files inside the context distribution. :-/


well, what is being shipped differs per tex (live) distribution unde 
what name and directory so we'll always be a bit behind -)


(i'm not even sure if anything texnansi is shipped in the meantime; need 
to check it)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater



Hans Hagen wrote:
that's a bit tricky since there may be users out there who haven't or 
can't yet install cont-fnt, so how about


- using the p* names now


isn't that what adobekb is supposed to do? So why not use
the new, empty one and add \usetypescript[adobekb] somewhere?

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Re: [NTG-context] Red framed text

2005-12-22 Thread Jilani Khaldi



Missing \setupcolors[state=start] maybe? (works for me)


Yes it is.




And what about a shaded frame?



You mean like a dropshadow or so?


Something like  \shadowbox{..} using LaTeX package fancybox
I just want to translate the simple macro I wrote time ago from LaTeX to 
ConTeXt:

\newcommand{\attenzione}[1]
{
\begin{center}
\(
 \shadowbox{
 \begin{minipage}{0.8\textwidth}
 \color{red}\underline{\textbf{Attenzione}}\\
 \color{black}
 #1
 \end{minipage}
 }
\)
\end{center}
}

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Re: [NTG-context] How can I use postscript Times Roman font for entire document?

2005-12-22 Thread Gerben Wierda
 Gerben Wierda wrote:
 After installing type-dis and regenerating cont-en I get

 w-helvetica.map}{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/
 context/ec
 -urw-courier.map}]
 systems : end file ftest at line 11
 kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 72 --mag 1+0/72 --dpi 72

 That's not right either (duh). Sorry

 How is about the next one (attached)? Expected behaviour:
 It should find and use the fonts from cont-fnt.tex (and generate
 an error message about missing ec-ptmr8t otherwise).

I tried this on the very simple test file that was posted earlier and this
works.

G

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Re: [NTG-context] followup metapost textext?

2005-12-22 Thread Hans van der Meer

I am surprised, but somehow the problem seems to be gone.

In my cont-sys.tex I had
\runMPgraphicstrue
%\runMPTEXgraphicstrue

Trying everything seemingly connected to metapost I tried diverse  
combinations with these macros either commented-out or not-commented- 
out.

At one moment texexec started functioning.
I was thinking both these macros were for efficiency only, or is that  
a wrong thought? Because the comment in cont-sys.tex after these  
lines says % This saves some runtime,

But the \runMPTEXgraphicstrue seems crucial.

Would you please answer the next questions too:

(1) Although my outer font is Lucida, these are used in textext 
(normal) but not used in textext($math$) where lm- en cm-math fonts  
are used; these mixed fonts make the pictures ugly.


(2) I would like to have standalone pictures, as produced by texexec  
--mptex but then I do not know how to set the fonts. Is there a  
simple way to export the pictures from a ConTeXt run with embedded MP- 
graphics? Or keep intermediate pdf's?



yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer



On Dec 22, 2005, at 8:49, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hans van der Meer wrote:

Followup to my previous post (see below)
I executed the code on the live tex site and, mirabile dictu,  
there it works.
The difference I can see is a much older pdfetex (Version  
3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)) on the live site, whereas I have  
a newer one (Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)).

Could that be the problem or must I dig deeper?


It is not likely that this is the problem, unless you have
'stray' pdfetex executables floating around (with different
version numbers) in other folders.

It is more likely there is some interference with your pre-existing
teTeX 3, but without the actual output and log files I do not know
what to suggest as next step.

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Re: [NTG-context] new type-dis.tex

2005-12-22 Thread VnPenguin
On 12/22/05, Taco Hoekwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Looks like your cont-sys.tex is out of date (because it
 contains no \loadmapfile lines at all). I suggest updating
 base/cont-sys.tex by comparing it to base/cont-sys.ori


Works well with my FC box at home :)
I'll have a look later another box at work.

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[NTG-context] resume template?

2005-12-22 Thread leon
Dear all,

I need to finish up a CV in 2 weeks. I'd appreciate if you can point out
some resources on writing resume using conTeXt. Many thanks.

Cheers
-- 
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. 
. *   . 
./.\Merry Christmas   . 
.   /..'\ . 
.   /'.'\  -- Leon. 
.  /.''.'\. 
.  /.'.'.\. 
. /'.''.'.\   . 
. ^^^[_]^^^   . 
.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:. 

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Re: [NTG-context] Some things I don't understand about typescripts...

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:




Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


Taco,

thanks again for your help!!

On Dec 22, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:




This

  \definebodyfont [default] [rm] [tf=, ] % ...

should work, afaik



Not here, I get errors:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again



(I'll leave this for Hans)



tf= (nothing) is a bad idea

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] About 'repeat' option of \startitemize

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Radhelorn wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:


Radhelorn wrote:

1. item
1.1item
   1.2.1  item
  1.2.1.1.item
  1.2.2.1em

for that you can best set up a dedicated instance of itemize 
(defineitemgroup) and assign the right widths to the levels


I'm sorry to disturb you with my endless requests but it seems that 
options of itemgroups is not interact properly.


I've tried as you suggested this way:

\defineitemgroup[myitemize]
\setupitemgroup[myitemize][n,width=4em]


\setupitemgroup[myitemize][each][width=4em]
\setupitemgroup[myitemize][each][n]




\startmyitemize
\item item 1
\item item 2
\stopmyitemize

It gives many missing or ungrouped '=' after 'n' messages and 
changes item symbol to default dot. I've also tried n=1 or n=2 (seen 
in the sources). This gives same result, but without error message.


Thanks for your patience.



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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:




Hans Hagen wrote:

that's a bit tricky since there may be users out there who haven't or 
can't yet install cont-fnt, so how about


- using the p* names now



isn't that what adobekb is supposed to do? So why not use
the new, empty one and add \usetypescript[adobekb] somewhere?


hm, you mean type-akb.tex ...

i'll give it a thought and when nobody complains i'll kick out the p's 
from type-dis (well, i can then merge dis into whatever); we can extend 
type-akb to listen to the berry typescript names


i will give it a thought

Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] About paragraph columns in table environment

2005-12-22 Thread Radhelorn

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

Hans Hagen wrote:


Radhelorn wrote:




| There are so |
| me rather lo |
| ng titles th |
| a needs to b |
| e typeset.   |




you're not serious about this are you?



I'm curious as well. What is this for?


It can be used in small cards or something like that.

I've tried to fit wide table in a narrow paper. I was making electronic 
version of printed document and can assure you that original design was 
even more strange (to my tastes of course).





anyhow, a wikiable example


I'll look into it a little later.




A similar problemsolution, for verbatim text, is already in the wiki:

  http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Verbatim_with_line_breaks



Well maybe I should give this a try too ;-).

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Re: [NTG-context] Red framed text

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Jilani Khaldi wrote:




Missing \setupcolors[state=start] maybe? (works for me)



Yes it is.




And what about a shaded frame?




You mean like a dropshadow or so?



Something like  \shadowbox{..} using LaTeX package fancybox
I just want to translate the simple macro I wrote time ago from LaTeX 
to ConTeXt:

\newcommand{\attenzione}[1]
{
\begin{center}
\(
 \shadowbox{
 \begin{minipage}{0.8\textwidth}
 \color{red}\underline{\textbf{Attenzione}}\\
 \color{black}
 #1
 \end{minipage}
 }
\)
\end{center}
}

jk


\setupcolors[state=start]

\startuniqueMPgraphic{shadow}
   fill OverlayBox shifted (3pt,-3pt) withcolor .8white ;
   fill OverlayBox withcolor white ;
   draw OverlayBox withcolor red ;
   setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[shadow][\uniqueMPgraphic{shadow}]

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input tufte \relax}

\blank

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input zapf \relax}

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Re: [NTG-context] About 'repeat' option of \startitemize

2005-12-22 Thread Radhelorn

Hans Hagen wrote:


\defineitemgroup[myitemize]
\setupitemgroup[myitemize][n,width=4em]



\setupitemgroup[myitemize][each][width=4em]
\setupitemgroup[myitemize][each][n]




Thanks. This will do for a time. Actually I have another observation in 
behaviour of 'repeat' option but will try to experiment with this a 
little more. This itm module is too elaborate.


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[NTG-context] 2005/2006

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

After a series of MP ones, this years our New Years card is a texie one:

 http://www.pragma-ade.com/temp/2005.pdf

This version uses Palatino Nova (the real thing that we send around uses 
Optima Nova with hz optimization).


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] followup metapost textext?

2005-12-22 Thread Hans van der Meer
I finally managed to contrive two simple examples, one that works  
here and one that doesn't.


The next code typeset with texexec --pdf with lines commented OUT  
does work:


\setupcolors[state=start]
\usetypescript[luc]\setupbodyfont[luc,10pt]
\startMPenvironment
\usetypescript[luc]
\setupbodyfont[luc,10pt]
\stopMPenvironment

\definecolor[gray][s=.825]
\definecolor[yellow][r=.625,g=.625]
\setupMPpage[offset=1pt,background=color,backgroundcolor=gray]

\startuseMPgraphic{standalone}
draw (0,0)--(100,0)--(100,50)--(50,50)--(50,100)--(0,100)--(0,0);
	label (textext(cornerstone), (10,5)) rotated 45 withcolor \MPcolor 
{yellow};

\stopuseMPgraphic

\starttext
%%\startMPpage
\includeMPgraphic{standalone}
%%\stopMPpage
\stoptext

When I remove the %'s it does not work.
The first below is the wrong one, showing unknown, the second one  
correctly shows the word cornerstone.

Is the conclusion correct that it could be something with \startMPpage?

yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer



bad.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document

 = bad and good =





good.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


On Dec 22, 2005, at 8:49, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hans van der Meer wrote:

Followup to my previous post (see below)
I executed the code on the live tex site and, mirabile dictu,  
there it works.
The difference I can see is a much older pdfetex (Version  
3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)) on the live site, whereas I have  
a newer one (Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)).

Could that be the problem or must I dig deeper?


It is not likely that this is the problem, unless you have
'stray' pdfetex executables floating around (with different
version numbers) in other folders.

It is more likely there is some interference with your pre-existing
teTeX 3, but without the actual output and log files I do not know
what to suggest as next step.

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Hans Hagen wrote:



So, the original urw files (u*) are no longer shipped? Great, that 
was the only font area left that could break ... so it means that 
(apart from the minimals on the tex collection, context does not work 
in the regular tex live 2005 distribution). Time to move everything 
that is subjected to changes in the base zip -)



The URW metrics are in texlive2005 (in fonts-recommended), but not
in teTeX 3 (most likely they are available in gwtex as well).

But they are nowhere distributed in 8y encoding. And we have
cont-fnt.zip now anyway, so this was a good moment to clean up
type-dis.


Should i replace the current type-dis by this one?



My last one, yes. The one that only has lm-cm synonyms, nothing else.


how about vietnamese ... we need to move the berry names to akb then:

\starttypescript [berry] [t5]

should then become

\starttypescript [adobekb] [t5]

or better

\starttypescript [berry,adobekb] [t5]

and:

\starttypescript [berry,adobekb] [texnansi]
\starttypescript [berry,adobekb] [ec]

does this makes sense?

(The u* and p* files do differ, don't they? If so, what are the 
compatibility issues involved? I remember some differences in spacing.)


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] followup metapost textext?

2005-12-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Hans van der Meer wrote:

I finally managed to contrive two simple examples, one that works  
here and one that doesn't.


minimalized:

\startuseMPgraphic{standalone}
   draw (0,0)--(100,0)--(100,50)--(50,50)--(50,100)--(0,100)--(0,0);
   label (textext(cornerstone), (10,5)) rotated 45 withcolor \MPcolor 
{yellow};

\stopuseMPgraphic

\starttext

\startMPcode
   \includeMPgraphic{standalone}
\stopMPcode

\stoptext

so, there is a problem with textext inside an include (rather tricky to 
solve i fear)


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Re: [NTG-context] Some things I don't understand about typescripts...

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans Hagen wrote:

This

  \definebodyfont [default] [rm] [tf=, ] % ...

should work, afaik


Not here, I get errors:
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again


(I'll leave this for Hans)


tf= (nothing) is a bad idea


Oh (is that what the error came from?) I just wanted to stress the
use of [default] instead of explicit sizes. Sorry, miscommunication
on my part.

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] Red framed text

2005-12-22 Thread Jilani Khaldi



\setupcolors[state=start]

\startuniqueMPgraphic{shadow}
   fill OverlayBox shifted (3pt,-3pt) withcolor .8white ;
   fill OverlayBox withcolor white ;
   draw OverlayBox withcolor red ;
   setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[shadow][\uniqueMPgraphic{shadow}]

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input tufte \relax}

\blank

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input zapf \relax}


Very nice! Thank you.

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Re: [NTG-context] metapost textext?

2005-12-22 Thread Hans van der Meer

I have another piece of information on my previous posting.
When I take the mpgraph mp-input for metapost produced by the ConTeXt  
run I see:


(1) running system(mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun standalone2- 
mpgraph)...executed. as the log shows gives the wrong metafont  
output. I also ran mpost with those parameters standalone on that mp- 
file and got the same bad result.


(2) running texexec --mptex on the file gives the correct result.

Would this help locating the problem?
My mpost is according to mpout.log This is MetaPost, Version 0.901  
(Web2C 7.5.3) (mem=mpost 2005.11.12).


yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer



On Dec 21, 2005, at 18:24, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


Peter Rolf wrote:

Hans Hagen wrote:

Hans van der Meer wrote:



Panic using metapost in context.
This used to work. I did a file that previously  
(\thisisutilityversion
{1998.12.20}) had good output but now has unknown everywhere  
for textext calls!


\starttext
\startuseMPgraphic{one}
   draw (0,0)--(100,0)--(100,50)--(50,50)--(50,100)--(0,100)-- 
(0,0);

   label (textext(label), (10,25));
\stopuseMPgraphic
\useMPgraphic{one}
\stoptext

But now I see unknown as the text typeset instead of label!
What happened. This is disastrous.


this normally points to an error in mp processing (unknown is the  
fall

back text), not so much to something wrong with context (i hope)

it runs ok here; how does it runs at other machines?


no problem here (using latest version)


Runs without problems here as well. The most likely cause of problems
in this subsystem nowadays is a
  format was written by (pdf)(e)tex
error message from a (pdf)(e)tex executable. Unfortunately, I also
find it hard to trace this stuff. It may help to run the example
in an isolated directory and zipmail everything in the directory
afterwards. I can at least have a look, but cannot give guarantees.

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] followup metapost textext?

2005-12-22 Thread Hans van der Meer
Sorry, my last posting ran into another, earlier thread. In order to  
prevent confusion I take the liberty to repeat my findings on the  
code below as reply to Hans Hagen's last posting.


When I take the mpgraph mp-input for metapost produced by the ConTeXt  
run I see:


(1) running system(mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun standalone2- 
mpgraph)...executed. as the log shows gives the wrong metafont  
output. I also ran mpost with those parameters standalone on that mp- 
file and got the same bad result.


(2) running texexec --mptex on the file gives the correct result.

Would this help locating the problem?
My mpost is according to mpout.log This is MetaPost, Version 0.901  
(Web2C 7.5.3) (mem=mpost 2005.11.12).


yours sincerely,
dr. H. van der Meer



On Dec 22, 2005, at 23:22, Hans Hagen wrote:


Hans van der Meer wrote:

I finally managed to contrive two simple examples, one that works   
here and one that doesn't.


minimalized:

\startuseMPgraphic{standalone}
   draw (0,0)--(100,0)--(100,50)--(50,50)--(50,100)--(0,100)--(0,0);
   label (textext(cornerstone), (10,5)) rotated 45 withcolor  
\MPcolor {yellow};

\stopuseMPgraphic

\starttext

\startMPcode
   \includeMPgraphic{standalone}
\stopMPcode

\stoptext

so, there is a problem with textext inside an include (rather  
tricky to solve i fear)


Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Re: URw metric files

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater


Hi,


Hans Hagen wrote:

My last one, yes. The one that only has lm-cm synonyms, nothing else.


how about vietnamese ... we need to move the berry names to akb then:


I see now that there are no vietnamese fonts in cont-fnt.zip,
I thought you had included the t5 metrics as well.
Those fonts should not be deleted from type-dis then, sorry.


[berry] vs. [adobekb]
does this makes sense?


My original take was: if you know how to install the next context
release, then you also know how to install cont-fnt, and no other
trickery would be needed to get these postscript fonts to work.
Just install cont-fnt if you want texfont names, or use e.g.

  \usetypescript[adobekb][ec]
  \usetypescript[palatino][ec]

if you want to stick to berry names. Anything else will give
you a missing font error, but one that should be easier to
solve than the current utmr8y errors.

So my plan was: no additional changes, just some removed
\fontsynonyms: the ones that map to (regularly) unavailable fonts.

(The u* and p* files do differ, don't they? If so, what are the 
compatibility issues involved? I remember some differences in spacing.)


I do not think there will be compatibility issues since the old
type-dis used the same actual metrics as the texfont-installed ones
(both the u* (fontinst) and the [encoding]-u* (texfont) ones are
based on the same .afm files, by URW).

The only different ones are the p* ones that are (already and still
will be) loaded by \usetypescript[adobekb]. These may or may not
be based on actual Adobe metrics, I am not sure.

Cheers,
Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] followup metapost textext?

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hans van der Meer wrote:
Sorry, my last posting ran into another, earlier thread. In order to  
prevent confusion I take the liberty to repeat my findings on the  code 
below as reply to Hans Hagen's last posting.


When I take the mpgraph mp-input for metapost produced by the ConTeXt  
run I see:


(1) running system(mpost  -progname=mpost -mem=metafun standalone2- 
mpgraph)...executed. as the log shows gives the wrong metafont  output. 
I also ran mpost with those parameters standalone on that mp- file and 
got the same bad result.


The input and output (+ log) from that incorrect run should pinpoint
the problem. Can you email or post these files please?

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Red framed text

2005-12-22 Thread David Arnold
Very cool. First time I ever could figure out what \relax does. When  
I deleted it from this source, I got:


! I can't find file `zapf}'.
l.25  {\input zapf}

Please type another input file name:

Good learning experience for me. I've seen and ignored this type of  
error message before, looking elsewhere in the code. A very good  
heads up for me.


Now is there anyway I can visualize the importance of the line

   setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;

in this example? I deleted it and recompiled but didn't see much  
difference. What is the import of this line?



On Dec 22, 2005, at 1:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:


Jilani Khaldi wrote:




Missing \setupcolors[state=start] maybe? (works for me)



Yes it is.




And what about a shaded frame?




You mean like a dropshadow or so?



Something like  \shadowbox{..} using LaTeX package fancybox
I just want to translate the simple macro I wrote time ago from  
LaTeX to ConTeXt:

\newcommand{\attenzione}[1]
{
\begin{center}
\(
 \shadowbox{
 \begin{minipage}{0.8\textwidth}
 \color{red}\underline{\textbf{Attenzione}}\\
 \color{black}
 #1
 \end{minipage}
 }
\)
\end{center}
}

jk


\setupcolors[state=start]

\startuniqueMPgraphic{shadow}
   fill OverlayBox shifted (3pt,-3pt) withcolor .8white ;
   fill OverlayBox withcolor white ;
   draw OverlayBox withcolor red ;
   setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[shadow][\uniqueMPgraphic{shadow}]

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input tufte \relax}

\blank

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input zapf \relax}

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Re: [NTG-context] MikTeX and font problems (again)

2005-12-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Hans Hagen wrote:
 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 this ec-* versus *-ec was one of the last minute changes for tex live
 (lm, iwona, kurier, antykwa) so tere can be a mismatch between context
 and the rest ... welcome to the font mess

Thanks for the explanation. I now managed to solve both problems, but
there's still a little question left.

 (you can copy the ec-* to *-ec and vise versa to solve this; in due time
 it will solve itself)

I did that, but it didn't help. The problem was solved when I copied
two files (sy-anttr.tfm and mi-anttr.tfm from your context distr. into
MikTeX). Is this a matter of different naming conventions between
LaTeX and ConTeXt or anything else? I thought that something could be
wrong in MikTeX, but the original package with Antykwa doesn't include
the two tfm files either.

 The following code works both under MikTeX and stand-alone ConTeXt
 (however not under live.contextgarden.net), but I don't know how to
 enable ec encoding (\ccaron and \Ccaron - č and Č - don't work).

Regarding the problem with missing ccarons: Despite the fact that
antykwa pol. has ec encoding, quite some glyphs are still missing
there, while ConTeXt thinks that they are present. So I solved the
problem by using the wrong encoding (texnansi) again and now ConTeXt
renders those glyphs for me :)

Thanks again,
Mojca
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[NTG-context] A font question.

2005-12-22 Thread John R. Culleton
I use Context for highly formatted non-fiction, but I am a bit
reluctant to use it for much of my work because of the strange
(to me) font handling arrangements. I see no purpose for the
multiple synonyms of the same font. That just adds layers of
extra work.  And I am used to tweaking both the font size and the
baselineskip by fractional amounts to help in getting the
pagination just right and the spacing on the individual page
correct. For example I have the main body font on a current
project defined thus:

\font\rm=8r-AGaramond-Regular at 10.5pt
and this:
\baselineskip 12.0pt plus .25pt

If the page comes up a line short because of strict widow
prevention then the extra space is distributed imperceptibly
among the lines. \parskip is 0 pt for this novel. With a fixed
baselineskip the extra space is distributed only at paragraph breaks,
which gives an ugly result. 

This kind of fine tuning by users is perhaps foreign to Context as it now
exists. Font sizes are in fixed steps for one thing. 

However abandoning the typescript etc. process deprives one of
the useful feature of using tfa, tfb, tfx etc. to adjust font
sizes semi-automatically.

So here is my question. If I set up my own font definition
system and as part of it I have statements like:
\font\tfa bchr8r at 10.45pt
\font\tfb bchr8r at 11.37pt
...
... will the rest of Context accept the above tfb font and size in places
where a heading macro automatically defaults to tfb?


John Culleton

 







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Re: [NTG-context] Answer blocks potential

2005-12-22 Thread David Arnold

Hans,

OK. Meanwhile, looking to a future fromatting of the exercise set,  
brief solutions, and long solutions, do you think it best that I  
instruct my colleagues to code in question-answer blocks (LongAnswer,  
BriefAnswer)?


On Dec 22, 2005, at 2:13 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:


David Arnold wrote:


Hans, Taco, et al,

I've looked at the question-answer block suggestion and it has  
good  potential for what I want to do. What I need now is a way  
of  typesetting the blocks as follows.


1. Question   2. Question
3. Question   4. Question

Then, later in the document, I'll unhide the answer blocks.

Is it worth my while to try to use question-answer blocks in an   
itemized environment? should I pursue that or try a different tack?


no. it can only be used at the outer level

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Character names (was: Context 2005.12.19 released)

2005-12-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Here's what I can come up with. At least a few are acceptable, like the
 horizontal bar. \textnumero exists, but is only reachable in cyrillic
 encodings (fixable, I guess?), and the greek  vietnamese accents
 are also only usable in the correct encoding. I've used the \text...
 versions of the accents, but perhaps the actual commands are more
 correct (like \' and \~).

 Cheers, Taco

 \starttext
 \definecharacter texthorizontalbar {{--\kern 0pt--}}
 \definecharacter textdong  {\underbar{\dstroke}}

Thanks for those ...

 \NC 0300 COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT \NC \textgrave   \NC \NR
 \NC 0309 COMBINING HOOK ABOVE   \NC \texthookabove   \NC \NR
 \NC 0303 COMBINING TILDE\NC \texttilde   \NC \NR
 \NC 0301 COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT \NC \textacute   \NC \NR
 \NC 0323 COMBINING DOT BELOW\NC \textbottomdot   \NC \NR

I may be wrong, but aren't those used only in combination with other
characters? I don't know if TeX (ConTeXt) can handle this (at least
not yet). When I wrote the list a couple of days ago I forgot about
that fact. If the accent would come before the charecter, this could
be replaced by \buildtextaccent..., but here there's perhaps no
solution without some additional macros. (And since the Vietnamese
seem to be satisfied with viscii and utf for now, supporting cp1258 is
not crucial.)

I double-checked the differences between the existing regimes and the
ones that were automatically produced by a script. The list of regimes
that are ripe for supporting is thus:

cp125[ 0 | *1 | *2 | 3 | 4 | 7 ]
iso-8859-[ *1 | *2 | 3 | 4 | *5 | *7 | 9 | 13 | *15 | 16 ]
*viscii (with glyph names instead of \\u\...)

(The ones marked with a star are already supported, perhaps with some
inconsistencies. Not supported: Hebrew, Arabic, Vietnamese? for cp125X
and Arabic, Thai and Celtic for iso-8859-X.)

I'll send the files (full content is already on my page), but I need
to know how to split/group them (I guess it would be a bad idea to
have one file for each encoding). Should there be one file for
iso-8859 and one for windows encodings? What about those regimes that
are already supported? I would like to move at least the regi-win
(with 8 wrong definitions anyway) to a less discriminating place,
don't know what to do with Greek and Cyrillic.

And another set of questions:
1. Can someone check for (in)consistencies for
greekupsilondiaeresis vs. greekupsilondialytika?
Looks like the same glyph named differently at different places
(functionality may break).

2. What to do with
{\cyrillicGJE}   {\'\cyrillicG} % 0403 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER GJE
{\cyrillicgje}   {\'\cyrillicg} % 0453 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER GJE
{\cyrillicKJE}   {\'\cyrillicK} % 040C CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER KJE
{\cyrillickje}   {\'\cyrillick} % 045C CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER KJE
{\cyrillicgheupturn} {\cyrillicgup} % 0491 CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER GHE WITH UPTURN
Which variant is better?

Would it make sense to define
\definecharacter cyrillicGJE {\buildtextaccent\textacute\cyrillicG}
\defineaccent ' \cyrillicG {\cyrillicGJE}
and then use \cyrillicGJE consistently?

3.
PLEASE FIX:
in enco-def.tex replace \cdots by something (\dots, I suppose, but I'm not sure)
\definecharacter textellipsis {\mathematics\cdots}
(I guess this bug was the reason for changing some definitions in
regimes/encodings elsewhere.)

Should \textellipsis be used for 2026 HORIZONTAL ELLIPSIS or anything else?

4. \softhyphen, \hyphen or \- for 00AD SOFT HYPHEN?

5. Urgently: what to do with quotations (without language
discriminations if possible)?

% 201A SINGLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK
\quotesinglebase vs. \lowerleftsingleninequote
% 201E DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK
\quotedblbase vs. \lowerleftdoubleninequote
% 2018 LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
\quoteleft vs. \upperleftsinglesixquote
% 2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK
\quoteright vs. \upperrightsingleninequote

% 201C LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
\quotedblleft vs. \upperleftdoublesixquote
% 201D RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK
\quotedblright vs. \upperrightdoubleninequote

% 2039 SINGLE LEFT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
\guilsingleleft vs. \leftsubguillemot
 % 203A SINGLE RIGHT-POINTING ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
\guilsingleright vs. \rightsubguillemot
% 00AB LEFT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
\leftguillemot vs. \greekleftquot
(are Greek quotations treated specially or what is this doing in regi-grk?)
% 00BB RIGHT-POINTING DOUBLE ANGLE QUOTATION MARK
\rightguillemot vs. \greekrightquot vs. \prewordbreak\rightguillemot
(in my point of view the last one may be better, but not fair since
it's language dependent: may be OK for French, but not for German or
vice versa; perhaps a language-sensitive macro could be inserted at
this place?)

6. \textnumero, 0x2116 (and perhaps some other characters) should be
added to unicode vector 33.

7. files regi-il1 and regi-win have many inconsistencies. I would like
to suggest to do the following renamings:

windows - cp1252
il1 - 

[NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation

2005-12-22 Thread Ciro Soto
Hi team:

How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down?
also
How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down?
thank you
ciro
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Re: [NTG-context] spanish symbols for interrogation and exclamation

2005-12-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
Ciro Soto wrote:
 Hi team:

  How do I write the spanish interrogation symbol that is up-side down?
  also
  How do I write the spanish exclamation symbol that is also up-side down?
  thank you
  ciro

\enableregime[utf] % for utf-8, may be something else as well
(depending on editor)
\starttext
You can write \exclamdown\ or ¡ and \questiondown\ or ¿
\stoptext

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] A font question.

2005-12-22 Thread Taco Hoekwater

Hi John,

John R. Culleton wrote:

I use Context for highly formatted non-fiction, but I am a bit
reluctant to use it for much of my work because of the strange
(to me) font handling arrangements. I see no purpose for the
multiple synonyms of the same font. That just adds layers of
extra work.


It also adds layers of configurability. Clearly you do not
need that (your font setups is extremely simple and low-level),
but lots of other people do. For example, I have documents that
use 6 totally different font sets, because all 'examples' and
'definitions' are typeset in font families that differ from
the normal text font family. It would be a nightmare if I had to
define and remember the 200+ font definitions by hand.


If the page comes up a line short because of strict widow
prevention then the extra space is distributed imperceptibly
among the lines. 


It is only imperceptible if the paper you print on does not
shine through at all, and if you use a noteblock (head) binding
instead of book (back) binding, so it is not something I would
recommend for general use.


This kind of fine tuning by users is perhaps foreign to Context as it now
exists. Font sizes are in fixed steps for one thing. 


The fixed steps (of .1pt) are actually an optimization, and it
is possible to circumvent that, using either

  \chardef\fontdigits=2

or

  \def\normalizebodyfontsize#1\to#2{\setvalue{#2}{#1}}


So here is my question. If I set up my own font definition
system and as part of it I have statements like:
\font\tfa bchr8r at 10.45pt
\font\tfb bchr8r at 11.37pt
...
... will the rest of Context accept the above tfb font and size in places
where a heading macro automatically defaults to tfb?


Only if you never make any \{setup,switchto}bodyfont switches after
your new font definitions.

Cheers,

Taco
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Re: [NTG-context] Red framed text

2005-12-22 Thread Jilani Khaldi



\setupcolors[state=start]

\startuniqueMPgraphic{shadow}
   fill OverlayBox shifted (3pt,-3pt) withcolor .8white ;
   fill OverlayBox withcolor white ;
   draw OverlayBox withcolor red ;
   setbounds currentpicture to OverlayBox ;
\stopuniqueMPgraphic

\defineoverlay[shadow][\uniqueMPgraphic{shadow}]

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input tufte \relax}

\blank

\framed
 [align=middle,background=shadow,frame=off]
 {\input zapf \relax}


Very nice! Thank you.


But is there a simple way to get the text left justified with a centered 
title Attention!?

jk

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http://jkhaldi.oltrelinux.com

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