Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:17 AM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote:

 Well I have been typesetting books in plain tex and pdftex for a
 decade or more. Supposedly luatex is a superset of pdftex that makes
 finding fonts easier and eliminates the generation of tmf files. But I
 seem to be sinking into a deeper swamp.

 Here is the base problem. All other publishing related programs on my
 system will
  a) look in /usr/share/fonts and
 b) list the fonts fond there in a window when selecting fonts.

 Laying aside b) for the moment it would be nice if some form of TeX
 (preferably not LaTeX) would join the party and find Type1, TTF and OTF
 fonts in the system standard location. Gimp does this, Scribus does
 this, Inkscape does this, Open Office Writer does this and so on.
 Luatex supposedly does this.  But getting Luatex to work on a new
 standard distro , texlive 2010, seems to be a game of whackamole.
 I tried comp.text.tex but when no one there seemed to have the right
 answers and many of the names mentioned in the documentation were
 gurus here I thought I would ask how to get the luatex business set
 up.

 My goal is to use the stuff myself of course but also to describe how
 to do it in a book I am writing on Free Publishing Software.  It does
 not appear that Luatex is suitable for a newbie to set up. Remember,
 the competition consists of programs where you download and install
 the program and font finding is automatic. I write for an impatient
 audience who want to have it all just work without a lot of
 experimentation and fuss and feathers. There does not yet seem to be a
 reliable single set of instructions for installing Luatex and setting
 it up properly.  When there is I will revisit the program.

 Thanks for helping and sorry to have wasted your time.
A bit off topic:
you can consider minimals  metatex.tex with mkiv (hence not texlive);
it should build a (sort of) plain tex with luatex .

See
tex/context/base/metatex.tex
but a bit of experience is required, I believe.



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[NTG-context] new beta

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

I'm dealing with the bugs/anomalies/wishes that showed up during the ctx 
conference. The following has been done so far:


(1) With respect to registers, Jano had a wish to deal with mixed 
language indexes. As a result the current sorting code has been adapted. 
In the process also different control over sorting has been streamlined 
and this is controlled by the method variable. Also, the language 
related sorting definitions have changed.


% tricky-002.tex:

\setuplayout[topspace=1cm,height=middle]

\setupbodyfont[dejavu,11pt]

\starttext

\subject{before : Oo Öo oo öo} 
\placeregister[index][language=en,method=before] \par
\subject{after  : oo öo Oo Öo} 
\placeregister[index][language=en,method=after]  \par
\subject{first  : Oo oo Öo öo} 
\placeregister[index][language=en,method=last]   \par
\subject{last   : oo Oo öo Öo} 
\placeregister[index][language=en,method=first]  \par


\dorecurse {3} {
\page \recurselevel:
\index{boo} \index{Boo} \index{BOo} \index{bOo} \index{bõö} 
\index{bõo} \index{boö}

\index{oo}  \index{öo}  \index{Oo}  \index{Öo}
done
}

\stoptext

We can set up a default method for each language but that has not yet 
been done.


(2) Mari uses the prefix mechanism for references and that had not yet 
been implemented. The new beta does some but it needs testing. Also, I'd 
like to change a bit to the logic (esp related to more structured coding 
i.e. \startchapter .. \stopchapter and fallbacks but that will happen 
later). For the moment 'get it running as per mkii' is good enough. As 
cross referencing info is stored quite differently this is somewhat 
tricky.


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2010-09-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 9:43 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm dealing with the bugs/anomalies/wishes that showed up during the ctx
 conference. The following has been done so far:

 (1) With respect to registers, Jano had a wish to deal with mixed language
 indexes. As a result the current sorting code has been adapted. In the
 process also different control over sorting has been streamlined and this is
 controlled by the method variable. Also, the language related sorting
 definitions have changed.

 % tricky-002.tex:

 \setuplayout[topspace=1cm,height=middle]

 \setupbodyfont[dejavu,11pt]

 \starttext

 \subject{before : Oo Öo oo öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=before] \par
 \subject{after  : oo öo Oo Öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=after]  \par
 \subject{first  : Oo oo Öo öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=last]   \par
 \subject{last   : oo Oo öo Öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=first]  \par

 \dorecurse {3} {
    \page \recurselevel:
        \index{boo} \index{Boo} \index{BOo} \index{bOo} \index{bõö}
 \index{bõo} \index{boö}
        \index{oo}  \index{öo}  \index{Oo}  \index{Öo}
    done
 }

 \stoptext

 We can set up a default method for each language but that has not yet been
 done.

 (2) Mari uses the prefix mechanism for references and that had not yet been
 implemented. The new beta does some but it needs testing. Also, I'd like to
 change a bit to the logic (esp related to more structured coding i.e.
 \startchapter .. \stopchapter and fallbacks but that will happen later). For
 the moment 'get it running as per mkii' is good enough. As cross referencing
 info is stored quite differently this is somewhat tricky.

 Hans
Shame on me: during conference I have discovered a bug in lpdf-swf.lua

function backends.pdf.nodeinjections.insertswf(spec)
local annot, preview, ref = insertswf {
foundname = spec.foundname,
width = spec.width,
height= spec.height,
--  factor= spec.factor,
--  display   = spec.display,
--  controls  = spec.controls,
--  label = spec.label,
}
 -- texsprint(ctxcatcodes,format(\\pdfannot width %ssp height %ssp
{%s},spec.width,spec.height,annot())) -- b
node.write(pdfannotation(spec.width,spec.height,0,annotation()))
end

local annot
shoud be
local annotation
I'm sure that I haven't say it to Hans.

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Re: [NTG-context] cow symbols don't work in MkIV

2010-09-22 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Am 18.09.2010 um 12:49 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:

 This works in MkII, but not MkIV. Other symbol sets like mvs work
 (even with a list of error messages).

All symbol fonts are tricky with mkiv because luatex moves them
to the private slots, you can see this on the terminal when you
load the font for the first time.

load afm unifying 
/Users/wolf/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos-contour.afm
load afm assigning private slot U+F for unknown glyph name T_e_X
load afm assigning private slot U+F0001 for unknown glyph name 
texlogo.alt
load afm assigning private slot U+F0002 for unknown glyph name 
contextlogo.shadow
load afm assigning private slot U+F0003 for unknown glyph name 
PragmaADElogo
load afm assigning private slot U+F0004 for unknown glyph name 
C_o_w_t_e_x_t
...

I found no system how the original position in the font and
the assigned position is related, maybe Taco knows a answer.

With the message above from the terminal you can now load
the symbols with \charF00xx but mkiv provides also a mechanism
to access a symbol by the glyphname with \fontchar{T_e_X}.

I attached a modified version of the cow symbol where i used
the glyph names for each symbol but what we need are different
files for the symbols in mkii and mkiv. Hans, can you modify
the \usesymbols command to behave like \usetypescriptfile which
looks first for a mkii/mkiv file and then for a tex file?

 Under MkIV I managed to get my hands on the Cows (text) font via
 \definedfont[Cows at 30mm], but not on CowLogos.

You can use the text fonts with \setupbodyfont[cow].

Wolfgang


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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 9:50, luigi scarso wrote:


I'm sure that I haven't say it to Hans.


indeed. fixed anyhow but you'll have to wait another beta

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] cow symbols don't work in MkIV

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 10:00, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 18.09.2010 um 12:49 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:


This works in MkII, but not MkIV. Other symbol sets like mvs work
(even with a list of error messages).


All symbol fonts are tricky with mkiv because luatex moves them
to the private slots, you can see this on the terminal when you
load the font for the first time.

load afm  unifying 
/Users/wolf/context/tex/texmf-context/fonts/afm/hoekwater/koeieletters/koeielogos-contour.afm
load afm  assigning private slot U+F for unknown glyph name T_e_X
load afm  assigning private slot U+F0001 for unknown glyph name texlogo.alt
load afm  assigning private slot U+F0002 for unknown glyph name 
contextlogo.shadow
load afm  assigning private slot U+F0003 for unknown glyph name PragmaADElogo
load afm  assigning private slot U+F0004 for unknown glyph name C_o_w_t_e_x_t


I found no system how the original position in the font and
the assigned position is related, maybe Taco knows a answer.


% symbols-001.tex

\starttext

% for taco

\definedfont[file:stmary10 at 100pt]

\startTEXpage[offset=50pt]
\fontchar{Yright}
\stopTEXpage

\stoptext

So, access them by name.

I'll look into the cows later. Actually we need a nice open type variant 
(and then complete the font).


Hans

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[NTG-context] TEST

2010-09-22 Thread Procházka Lukáš

Please ignore this message - it's just a test due to some problems delivering 
e-mails to this conference.

Lukas


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[NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Procházka Lukáš

Hello,

I'm trying to use the BrickToBrick.ttf font.

It can be freely downloaded from  
http://moorstation.org/typoasis/designers/klein05/pic05/brick2brick.htm.

Problems are:

1) What's the best destination where the BrickToBrick.ttf should be placed? 
(Now, I've copied the file to c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\BrickToBrick.ttf.)

2) How to make ConTeXt realize that a new (.ttf) font has been added to use? Is 
it necessary to run any special routine?

3) How to use the font? I tried:


\definefont[BRICK][BrickToBrick.ttf at 30pt]

\starttext

 {\BRICK

  abcdefghijklmnopqrtsuvwxyz
  ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRTSUVWXYZ
  0123456789
 }

\stoptext


But I got just letters and numbers.

4) Another thing is that there are only 14 pictures (= letters) in the font. So I don't know whether to use them via 
a, b, c... and what would happen for z as for 25th letter, or how.

- I saw this font working - it was used in the thick Book of Fonts III by 
Pavel Stříž; it was used in the right bottom quarter at page 171. But the book was 
typeset by pdfLaTeX and I'd like to make it work in ConTeXt.

Thank you in advance.

Lukas


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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread luigi scarso
2010/9/22 Procházka Lukáš l...@pontex.cz:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to use the BrickToBrick.ttf font.

 It can be freely downloaded from
  http://moorstation.org/typoasis/designers/klein05/pic05/brick2brick.htm.

 Problems are:

 1) What's the best destination where the BrickToBrick.ttf should be placed?
 (Now, I've copied the file to c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\BrickToBrick.ttf.)
Have you done
luatools --generate
?
Your tex  works for me.

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[NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and --autopdf option

2010-09-22 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello all,
Is it possible to open a PDF file (after compilation of ConTeXt) in 
other PDF viewer which is not the default setting?

I mean change the default choice:

context --autopdf file.tex

to another, for example:

context --viewer=PDFViewer file.tex


I would like to retain the default browser settings, but I would like 
after ConTeXt compilation opened the files with something else.


Thanx Jaroslav


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and --autopdf option

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 11:26, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello all,
Is it possible to open a PDF file (after compilation of ConTeXt) in
other PDF viewer which is not the default setting?
I mean change the default choice:

context --autopdf file.tex

to another, for example:

context --viewer=PDFViewer file.tex


I would like to retain the default browser settings, but I would like
after ConTeXt compilation opened the files with something else.


the log mentions:

MTXrun | pdfview methods: default okular xpdf, current method: default, 
MTX_PDFVIEW_METHOD=unset


so you can set the method

i could extend --autopdf to accept a method

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[NTG-context] picture- and formula-references broken with current beta

2010-09-22 Thread Andreas Harder
Hi all,

can someone confirm that picture- and formula-references are broken with the 
current beta. Here is a test file:

\starttext
\placefigure[auto][pic:1]{caption}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
\placeformula[for:1]
\startformula
  a+b
\stopformula

\in{picture}[pic:1]
\in{formula}[for:1]
\stoptext

Greeting
Andreas
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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2010/9/22 Procházka Lukáš l...@pontex.cz:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to use the BrickToBrick.ttf font.

 It can be freely downloaded from
  http://moorstation.org/typoasis/designers/klein05/pic05/brick2brick.htm.

 Problems are:

 1) What's the best destination where the BrickToBrick.ttf should be placed?
 (Now, I've copied the file to c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\BrickToBrick.ttf.)

You need to put it to
a) 
c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\data\politebutnotneededtoputfontnamefolderhere\BrickToBrick.ttf
b) c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\fonts\opentype\brick\BrickToBrick.ttf
(or truetype instead of opentype; I'm not sure what kind of font it
is, but on the other hand I don't think that it really matters)

 2) How to make ConTeXt realize that a new (.ttf) font has been added to use?
 Is it necessary to run any special routine?

In MKII the folder texmf-local and TEXMFHOME (%HOME%/texmf) should be
automatically searched (other trees not), but I do not guarantee that
MKIV does that in the same way.

In any case,
mtxrun --generate
should update the files for MKIV. In MKII that would be mktexlsr.


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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2010-09-22 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-09-22 09:43:21, Hans Hagen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm dealing with the bugs/anomalies/wishes that showed up during the
 ctx conference. The following has been done so far:
 
 (1) With respect to registers, Jano had a wish to deal with mixed
 language indexes. As a result the current sorting code has been
 adapted. In the process also different control over sorting has been
 streamlined and this is controlled by the method variable. Also, the
 language related sorting definitions have changed.

Great news! At the moment I’m reading the new language
definitions. How exactly do I set the “method” switch on a
per-language basis?

Philipp



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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
 2010/9/22 Procházka Lukáš wrote:

 1) What's the best destination where the BrickToBrick.ttf should be placed?
 (Now, I've copied the file to c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\BrickToBrick.ttf.)

 You need to put it to
 a) 
 c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\data\politebutnotneededtoputfontnamefolderhere\BrickToBrick.ttf
 b) c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\fonts\opentype\brick\BrickToBrick.ttf
 (or truetype instead of opentype; I'm not sure what kind of font it
 is, but on the other hand I don't think that it really matters)

An interesting observation: the font won't work if you put it under
opentype, it only works if you put it under truetype or data. But your
input works fine.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 12:13, Philipp Gesang wrote:

On 2010-09-2209:43:21, Hans Hagen wrote:

Hi,

I'm dealing with the bugs/anomalies/wishes that showed up during the
ctx conference. The following has been done so far:

(1) With respect to registers, Jano had a wish to deal with mixed
language indexes. As a result the current sorting code has been
adapted. In the process also different control over sorting has been
streamlined and this is controlled by the method variable. Also, the
language related sorting definitions have changed.


Great news! At the moment I’m reading the new language
definitions. How exactly do I set the “method” switch on a
per-language basis?


each definition can have a method key/value and it can be overloaded 
when generatng the index


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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 12:16, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

2010/9/22 Procházka Lukáš wrote:


1) What's the best destination where the BrickToBrick.ttf should be placed?
(Now, I've copied the file to c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\BrickToBrick.ttf.)


You need to put it to
a) 
c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\data\politebutnotneededtoputfontnamefolderhere\BrickToBrick.ttf
b) c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\fonts\opentype\brick\BrickToBrick.ttf
(or truetype instead of opentype; I'm not sure what kind of font it
is, but on the other hand I don't think that it really matters)


An interesting observation: the font won't work if you put it under
opentype, it only works if you put it under truetype or data. But your
input works fine.


This is specific for tds (I never understood why the distinction was 
made). However, if you use the flat fonts/data approach then you can mix 
filetypes.


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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and --autopdf option

2010-09-22 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Thanx Hans,
I have ConTeXt in TL2010 ...
Settings are made in MTX-context.lua  or l-pdfview.lua?
It is necessary to refresh the settings by luatools --generate or 
something like?


Jaroslav

Settings in l-pdfview.lua is (only part):

pdfview = pdfview or { }

local opencalls = {
['default'] = pdfopen --file, -- pdfopen --back --file
['xpdf']= xpdfopen,
}

local closecalls= {
['default'] = pdfclose --file,
['xpdf']= nil,
}

local allcalls = {
['default'] = pdfclose --all,
['xpdf']= nil,
}

if os.type == windows then
 opencalls['okular'] = 'start test c:/program 
files/kde/bin/okular.exe --unique' -- todo: get focus

else
 opencalls['okular'] = 'okular --unique'
end

pdfview.METHOD = MTX_PDFVIEW_METHOD
pdfview.method = getenv(pdfview.METHOD) or 'default'
pdfview.method = (opencalls[pdfview.method] and pdfview.method) or 'default'

function pdfview.methods()
return table.concat(table.sortedkeys(opencalls),  )
end


Dne 22.9.2010 11:34, Hans Hagen napsal(a):

On 22-9-2010 11:26, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello all,
Is it possible to open a PDF file (after compilation of ConTeXt) in
other PDF viewer which is not the default setting?
I mean change the default choice:

context --autopdf file.tex

to another, for example:

context --viewer=PDFViewer file.tex


I would like to retain the default browser settings, but I would like
after ConTeXt compilation opened the files with something else.


the log mentions:

MTXrun | pdfview methods: default okular xpdf, current method: 
default, MTX_PDFVIEW_METHOD=unset


so you can set the method

i could extend --autopdf to accept a method

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and --autopdf option

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 12:26, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:


I have ConTeXt in TL2010 ...
Settings are made in MTX-context.lua or l-pdfview.lua?
It is necessary to refresh the settings by luatools --generate or
something like?


No clue as I don't have tl 2010 installed (and no time now to put it in 
a vm). You can try to set the environment variable:


MTX_PDFVIEW_METHOD

Adapting scripts directly that come with context is not a good idea as 
changes will be lost with an update.


A next version of context will also accept --autopdf=method

Some day I might also support configuration in texmfcnf.lua.

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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt mkiv and --autopdf option

2010-09-22 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

OK..
Thank You very much ..
Jaroslav ..


Dne 22.9.2010 12:37, Hans Hagen napsal(a):

On 22-9-2010 12:26, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:


I have ConTeXt in TL2010 ...
Settings are made in MTX-context.lua or l-pdfview.lua?
It is necessary to refresh the settings by luatools --generate or
something like?


No clue as I don't have tl 2010 installed (and no time now to put it 
in a vm). You can try to set the environment variable:


MTX_PDFVIEW_METHOD

Adapting scripts directly that come with context is not a good idea as 
changes will be lost with an update.


A next version of context will also accept --autopdf=method

Some day I might also support configuration in texmfcnf.lua.

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Re: [NTG-context] picture- and formula-references broken with current beta

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 11:50, Andreas Harder wrote:

Hi all,

can someone confirm that picture- and formula-references are broken with the 
current beta. Here is a test file:

\starttext
\placefigure[auto][pic:1]{caption}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
\placeformula[for:1]
\startformula
   a+b
\stopformula

\in{picture}[pic:1]
\in{formula}[for:1]
\stoptext


New beta. Can you check again? Keep in mind that pic: and fig: are also 
checked as prefix.


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[NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

Hi,

For those who were not at the ctx conference (where it was demonstrated) 
.. there is a new feature. When you say:


\setupbackeds[export=yes]

You will also get a file called jobname.export which represents the 
document in xml format. You can postprocess such an export to for 
instance html. It's still somewhat experimental but also fun.


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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2010-09-22 Thread Philipp Gesang
On 2010-09-22 12:22:12, Hans Hagen wrote:
 On 22-9-2010 12:13, Philipp Gesang wrote:
 Great news! At the moment I’m reading the new language
 definitions. How exactly do I set the “method” switch on a
 per-language basis?
 
 each definition can have a method key/value and it can be overloaded
 when generatng the index
 
 Hans

Of course, now I see it; I just skipped the entry “default” which
is the only one yet with this flag set.

My compliments for the new definitions, having every language in
its own table is by far more intuitive than the old threefold
method.

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Re: [NTG-context] picture- and formula-references broken with current beta

2010-09-22 Thread Andreas Harder

Am 22.09.2010 um 12:40 schrieb Hans Hagen:

 On 22-9-2010 11:50, Andreas Harder wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 can someone confirm that picture- and formula-references are broken with the 
 current beta. Here is a test file:
 
 \starttext
 \placefigure[auto][pic:1]{caption}{\externalfigure[dummy]}
 \placeformula[for:1]
 \startformula
   a+b
 \stopformula
 
 \in{picture}[pic:1]
 \in{formula}[for:1]
 \stoptext
 
 New beta. Can you check again? Keep in mind that pic: and fig: are also 
 checked as prefix.

Thank you Hans, it works again!

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Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2010-09-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:
 On 22-9-2010 9:50, luigi scarso wrote:

 I'm sure that I haven't say it to Hans.

 indeed. fixed anyhow but you'll have to wait another beta
Ok, it's fixed now.

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[NTG-context] New typescript mechanism for weights/opticals?

2010-09-22 Thread Marco
Hi,

I like Mojcas idea for new typescripts:

%%%
\startsomenewfonttypescriptcommand [kepler]
  [width={condensed,semicondensed,*regular,extended}]
  [size={caption,*regular,subhead,display},switch={10pt,12pt,17pt}]
  [weight={light,*regular,medium,semibold,*bold,black}]
  ...
%%%
\switchtofontdimension[width=semicondensed,weight={light,medium}]
%%%

That would make different weight/opticals font handling much less cumbersome.
At the moment its no fun dealing with weights/opticals.

I really would appreciate that (or any other easy usable) solution that
provides a standardized way to handle weights/opticals with not too much
overhead.

Regards
Marco


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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
 You need to put it to
 a) 
 c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\data\politebutnotneededtoputfontnamefolderhere\BrickToBrick.ttf
 b) c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\fonts\opentype\brick\BrickToBrick.ttf
 (or truetype instead of opentype; I'm not sure what kind of font it
 is, but on the other hand I don't think that it really matters)
 
 An interesting observation: the font won't work if you put it under
 opentype, it only works if you put it under truetype or data. But your
 input works fine.

  It used to be that kpathsea looked for files with a .ttf extension
under truetype/ exclusively, and likewise for .otf and opentype/.  This
is not correct because as you know, OpenType fonts can have a .ttf
extension if they use TrueType outlines (this is the case for all fonts
installed by default on Windows), but this is not a requirement (only a
polite thing to do for older rendering engines).  In order to add to
the confusion, this behaviour has been changed in TeX Live 2010 where
the list of directories searched for is now basically the same for .ttf
and .otf (but in a different order -- I told you it was confusing :-)

  Anyway, Mark IV should have no problem with it and disregard the file
extension completely.  It makes little sense anyway for ConTeXt.

Arthur
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Re: [NTG-context] modify resume

2010-09-22 Thread pol stra

I’m sorry but it still don’t work.
I add \usesymbols[mvs] but i have this message:

! Font \**Dings**:=MarVoSym at 8.3pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not fo
und.
to be read again 
   \relax 
\definefontlocal ...ndcsname \lastfontname \relax 
  \expandafter \let \expanda...

\dododefinefont ...ontspec {#2}\rawfontidentifier 
  \let \localrelativefontsiz...

\redodefinefont #1#2#3-\dododefinefont {#1}{#2}
\doifsetupselse {#3} {\setup...

\placehead ...} \hbox {\addressb } \hbox {{\Dings 
  B} \email } \hbox {{\Dings...
l.14 \placehead

I think this line is suspect:
\definefont[Dings][name:MarVoSym]
Why name: ?


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Re: [NTG-context] New typescript mechanism for weights/opticals?

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 1:35, Marco wrote:

Hi,

I like Mojcas idea for new typescripts:

%%%
\startsomenewfonttypescriptcommand [kepler]
   [width={condensed,semicondensed,*regular,extended}]
   [size={caption,*regular,subhead,display},switch={10pt,12pt,17pt}]
   [weight={light,*regular,medium,semibold,*bold,black}]
   ...
%%%
\switchtofontdimension[width=semicondensed,weight={light,medium}]
%%%


sure. looks nice, but the outcome is quite unpredictable unless you know 
the font and that in turn demands some investiation on the users end



That would make different weight/opticals font handling much less cumbersome.
At the moment its no fun dealing with weights/opticals.


it will never be fun ... (in most cases one will use suggested 
combinations and then for odd cases like a section title something special)



I really would appreciate that (or any other easy usable) solution that
provides a standardized way to handle weights/opticals with not too much
overhead.


given the huge differences in font collections there will never be an 
easy way with fonts that come in many weights/widths/sizes .. at least I 
cannot remember a project that I did where any system was present


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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Procházka Lukáš

... Thanks, it works perfectly.

I looked into c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf\web2c\texmfcnf.lua (ln. 42) as well - it 
seems to me that paths for searching for various kinds of font are prescribed 
here, see e.g.:

TTFONTS = .;$TEXMF/fonts/{data,truetype,ttf}//;$OSFONTDIR,
OPENTYPEFONTS   = .;$TEXMF/fonts/{data,opentype}//;$OSFONTDIR,

(Agrees with Mojca's observation.)

So if I insisted on keeping the BrickToBrick.ttf in a special directory, it 
would mean to change the lines above e.g. to:

TTFONTS = 
.;$TEXMF/fonts/{data,truetype,ttf}//;$OSFONTDIR;MySpecialDirectory,

right?

And one more question - maybe due to that I'm not Linux user -

- what does the !! at the begin and the // at the and of some paths mean? 
Or is it something TeX-special?

Maybe a link to a document will be the answer...

Cheers,

Lukas


On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:16:05 +0200, Mojca Miklavec 
mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote:


On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:06, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

2010/9/22 Procházka Lukáš wrote:


1) What's the best destination where the BrickToBrick.ttf should be placed?
(Now, I've copied the file to c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\BrickToBrick.ttf.)


You need to put it to
a) 
c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\data\politebutnotneededtoputfontnamefolderhere\BrickToBrick.ttf
b) c:\ConTeXt\tex\texmf-local\fonts\opentype\brick\BrickToBrick.ttf
(or truetype instead of opentype; I'm not sure what kind of font it
is, but on the other hand I don't think that it really matters)


An interesting observation: the font won't work if you put it under
opentype, it only works if you put it under truetype or data. But your
input works fine.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] New beta 2010-09-22 and xits fonts

2010-09-22 Thread Otared Kavian
Dear Hans, dear Khaled,

It seems that the xits fonts does not work anymore with the recent versions (at 
least since 2010-09-18): the integral signs are not properly scaled and the 
square root behaves strangely: minimal example below (and the resulting PDF, 
with ConTeXt  ver: 2010.09.22 12:33 MKIV  fmt: 2010.9.22  int: english/english, 
on Mac OS X 10.6.3):

Best regards: OK

%%% begin bug-xits-sqrt.tex
\setupbodyfont[xits]

\starttext
Note that $\int_{0}^{2\pi} \sin(x)dx = 0$, while
\startformula
\int_{0}^{2\pi} \sin^2(x)dx = \pi \qquad \mbox{and}\qquad \sqrt{4}= 2.
\stopformula
\stoptext
%%% end bug-xits-sqrt.tex



xits-sqrt.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document


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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Yury G. Kudryashov
Otared Kavian wrote:

 Hi Hans,
 
 Thanks for giving the information to those unlucky people who were not at
 the ConTeXt conference: Since I am interested in the feature you mention,
 I just tried with the latest beta you uploaded today, but the command
 \setupbackeds[export=yes] is unknown. Maybe there is a typo in what you
 said: could you please give a hint?
Try \setupbackends.
 
 Many thanks in advance: OK


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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
2010/9/22 Procházka Lukáš wrote:

 And one more question - maybe due to that I'm not Linux user -

 - what does the !! at the begin and the // at the and of some paths
 mean? Or is it something TeX-special?

!! means that a database must be created first. The advantage is that
searching is much faster, but the drawback is that you need to update
the database each time when you modify something (add or remove
files). Without !! it means that files are searched for on the fly.
Advantage: database doesn't need to be updated, drawback: slower
search.

I'm not sure - maybe entries in texmf-local should be without !!.

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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Otared Kavian

On 22 sept. 2010, at 14:06, Yury G. Kudryashov wrote:

 […]
 Try \setupbackends.

Thanks Yuri for your attention, but this suggestion doesn't work: I get 

  error on line 3 in file test-export.tex: Undefined control sequence ...
   \setupbackends[export=yes]

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Re: [NTG-context] How to use a true type font?

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 2:11, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

2010/9/22 Procházka Lukáš wrote:


And one more question - maybe due to that I'm not Linux user -

- what does the !! at the begin and the // at the and of some paths
mean? Or is it something TeX-special?


!! means that a database must be created first. The advantage is that
searching is much faster, but the drawback is that you need to update
the database each time when you modify something (add or remove
files). Without !! it means that files are searched for on the fly.
Advantage: database doesn't need to be updated, drawback: slower
search.

I'm not sure - maybe entries in texmf-local should be without !!.


no fun

only home has no !! (and one can even argue that as creating the 
database is a one time shot while the constant delay of scanning can 
take seconds in a worst case)


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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 2:18, Otared Kavian wrote:


On 22 sept. 2010, at 14:06, Yury G. Kudryashov wrote:


[…]

Try \setupbackends.


Thanks Yuri for your attention, but this suggestion doesn't work: I get

error on line 3 in file test-export.tex: Undefined control sequence ...
 \setupbackends[export=yes]


there is only one backend ...

\setupbackend
  [export=yes]

and this command is only available in post tex live 2010 versions (with 
export only being supported with versions uploaded during and after the 
conference)


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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Minimal example (given at the workshop):

\setupbackend [export=yes]

\starttext

\startchapter [title=First chapter]

\startparagraph
\input ward
\stopparagraph

\stopchapter

\stoptext


On Wednesday 22 September 2010 14:18:18 Otared Kavian wrote:
 On 22 sept. 2010, at 14:06, Yury G. Kudryashov wrote:
  […]
  
  Try \setupbackends.
 
 Thanks Yuri for your attention, but this suggestion doesn't work: I get
 
   error on line 3 in file test-export.tex: Undefined control sequence ...
   
\setupbackends[export=yes]
 
 Best regards: OK
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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Andreas Harder

Am 22.09.2010 um 14:25 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:

 \setupbackend [export=yes]
 
 \starttext
 
 \startchapter [title=First chapter]
 
 \startparagraph
   \input ward
 \stopparagraph
 
 \stopchapter
 
 \stoptext

Results in Undefined control sequence. \setupbackend (newest beta; OS X) …

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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 14:29:08 Andreas Harder wrote:
 Am 22.09.2010 um 14:25 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
  \setupbackend [export=yes]
  
  \starttext
  
  \startchapter [title=First chapter]
  
  \startparagraph
  
  \input ward
  
  \stopparagraph
  
  \stopchapter
  
  \stoptext
 
 Results in Undefined control sequence. \setupbackend (newest beta; OS X)
 …
 
 Greeting
   Andreas

Works here - latest beta - linux x86_64
(see attached)

Alan


xml.export
Description: XML document
\setupbackend [export=yes]

\starttext

\startchapter [title=First chapter]

\startparagraph
	\input ward
\stopparagraph

\stopchapter

\startchapter [title=Second chapter]

\startparagraph
	\input tufte
\stopparagraph

\stopchapter

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Re: [NTG-context] New beta 2010-09-22 and xits fonts

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 2:06, Otared Kavian wrote:

\setupbodyfont[xits]

\starttext
Note that $\int_{0}^{2\pi} \sin(x)dx = 0$, while
\startformula
\int_{0}^{2\pi} \sin^2(x)dx = \pi \qquad \mbox{and}\qquad \sqrt{4}= 2.
\stopformula
\stoptext


Afaik nothing was changed so I'll wait for Taco's comments before I 
start messing around.


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[NTG-context] Update ConTeXt into TL2010...

2010-09-22 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Hello,
Is there anyone who updated ConTeXt MkIV in TL2010? Is there more 
information about how this can be done safely? (where you copy and what 
to run ...)


I am interested in the latest updates, but I do not want to get into 
trouble with a bad update. Last time I stopped in ConTeXt TL2009 quite 
work and I had to completely install TL2010.

Thanks Jaroslav
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Re: [NTG-context] Update ConTeXt into TL2010...

2010-09-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Jaroslav Hajtmar hajt...@gyza.cz wrote:
 Hello,
 Is there anyone who updated ConTeXt MkIV in TL2010? Is there more
 information about how this can be done safely? (where you copy and what to
 run ...)
The best and only way to run mkiv is minimals, not texlive;
texlive is ok for mkii (as also minimals, anyway).




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Re: [NTG-context] new beta (index)

2010-09-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 09:43:21 Hans Hagen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm dealing with the bugs/anomalies/wishes that showed up during the ctx
 conference. The following has been done so far:
 
 (1) With respect to registers, Jano had a wish to deal with mixed
 language indexes. As a result the current sorting code has been adapted.
 In the process also different control over sorting has been streamlined
 and this is controlled by the method variable. Also, the language
 related sorting definitions have changed.
 
 % tricky-002.tex:
 
 \setuplayout[topspace=1cm,height=middle]
 
 \setupbodyfont[dejavu,11pt]
 
 \starttext
 
 \subject{before : Oo Öo oo öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=before] \par
 \subject{after  : oo öo Oo Öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=after]  \par
 \subject{first  : Oo oo Öo öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=last]   \par
 \subject{last   : oo Oo öo Öo}
 \placeregister[index][language=en,method=first]  \par
 
 \dorecurse {3} {
  \page \recurselevel:
  \index{boo} \index{Boo} \index{BOo} \index{bOo} \index{bõö}
 \index{bõo} \index{boö}
  \index{oo}  \index{öo}  \index{Oo}  \index{Öo}
  done
 }
 
 \stoptext
 
 We can set up a default method for each language but that has not yet
 been done.
 

Nice, but something is broken
(of course, my minimal examples work, but not my 700+ page test file!):
(thanks to Taco, I now understand the luatex error message)

! LuaTeX error ...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/char-ini.lua:792: 
bad argument #1 to 'utfchar' (number expected, got table)
stack traceback:
[C]: in function 'utfchar'
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/char-ini.lua:792: in 
function 
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/char-ini.lua:792
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-ini.lua:107: in 
function 
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-ini.lua:96
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/sort-ini.lua:329: in 
function 
'splitter'
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-reg.lua:353: in 
function 
'prepare'
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-reg.lua:423: in 
function 
'analyzed'
...beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/strc-reg.lua:741: in 
function 
'process'
main ctx instance:1: in main chunk.

system   error on line 136 in file Livre.tex: LuaTeX error  ...

134 
135 \startpart [title={Index des sujets}]
136   \placeindex [method=first,criterium=all,compress=yes]
137 \stoppart
138 


\doplaceregister ...ameter \c!pagesegments , } )}
  \stoppacked \stopcolumns 
\...
l.136 ...[method=first,criterium=all,compress=yes]
  
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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread John Culleton
On Tuesday 21 September 2010 18:37:48 Khaled Hosny wrote:
 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 06:17:41PM -0400, John Culleton wrote:
  Well I have been typesetting books in plain tex and pdftex for a
  decade or more. Supposedly luatex is a superset of pdftex that
  makes finding fonts easier and eliminates the generation of tmf
  files. But I seem to be sinking into a deeper swamp.

 If you all what you want is plain TeX, then why you are looking for
 ConTeXt solutions, I mean you don't need ConTeXt nor ConTeXt file
 locating system (which does not use kpathsea) to use plain format.

 The issue you have is because your ConTeXt MkIV is not properly
 setup yet (true for fresh TeXLive 2010 installs). You need to run
 `luatools -generate` to generate the file database (used to
 locating files, similar to running texhash and likes, but TeXLive
 scripts does not run it by default). Then you need to set your
 system font paths, by setting OSFONTDIR, and ConTeXt will then be
 able find system fonts.

 However, you don't need any of then to use system fonts with plain,
 there are already packages for this (based on dome of ConTeXt code,
 but adapted to be self contained and ConTeXt independent).

 A small test file would be:

 \input luaotfload.sty % works for plain despite the .sty
 \font\pagella={name:TeX Gyre Pagella:script=latn;+onum} at 10pt
 \font\termes={file:texgyretermes-regular.otf:script=latn} at 10pt
 \pagella some text 12345\par
 \termes other text
 \bye

 This should work out of box on texlive (at first run it will take
 some time building font database). If it does not work, it is a
 bug.

 For LaTeX, just check fontspec documentation, and there is a
 lualatex-dev list on CTAN, and luatex list for general, non-ConTeXt
 questions.

 Regards,
  Khaled
Now that works! I'll try it on my XP partition also to see how well I 
fare.  And I need to fiddle with some non-Gyre fonts as well. 

You mentioned building a database, and yes that took some time. Is 
there a way to have it scan fonts in /usr/share/fonts as well?
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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 15:25:26 John Culleton wrote:
 
 You mentioned building a database, and yes that took some time. Is
 there a way to have it scan fonts in /usr/share/fonts as well?

export OSFONTDIR=/usr/share/fonts

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Re: [NTG-context] Update ConTeXt into TL2010...

2010-09-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:11, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:
 Hello,
 Is there anyone who updated ConTeXt MkIV in TL2010? Is there more
 information about how this can be done safely? (where you copy and what to
 run ...)

You may use
tlmgr update --all
but this will only update some minor trivial fixes (for example I just
commited fixes for Antykwa Poltawskiego after the font has been
released).

If you want to have the latest ConTeXt, you also need to update
luatex, but also some other tools have changed since TL release.

I would suggest to install minimals if you want the latest ConTeXt ...
or at least wait for Taco's new server. Apart from that you are free
to put the latest ConTeXt into texmf-local, replace luatex binary with
the one from minimals and update mtxrun script manually. It is not
nice  clean to do it, but it should work. (If anything breaks badly,
you might end up installing from scratch, but well ...)

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] new beta (index)

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 3:22, Alan BRASLAU wrote:


Nice, but something is broken
(of course, my minimal examples work, but not my 700+ page test file!):
(thanks to Taco, I now understand the luatex error message)


hm, so some word in the index is triggering this ... no minimal example 
I guess


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Re: [NTG-context] New typescript mechanism for weights/opticals?

2010-09-22 Thread Marco
On 2010-09-22 Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote:

 On 22-9-2010 1:35, Marco wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I like Mojcas idea for new typescripts:
 
  %%%
  \startsomenewfonttypescriptcommand [kepler]
 [width={condensed,semicondensed,*regular,extended}]
 [size={caption,*regular,subhead,display},switch={10pt,12pt,17pt}]
 [weight={light,*regular,medium,semibold,*bold,black}]
 ...
  %%%
  \switchtofontdimension[width=semicondensed,weight={light,medium}]
  %%%
 
 sure. looks nice, but the outcome is quite unpredictable unless you know 
 the font and that in turn demands some investiation on the users end
I think some user investiation will always be necessary since the vendors
dont't follow the same schema and every font collection is different.
 
  That would make different weight/opticals font handling much less
  cumbersome. At the moment its no fun dealing with weights/opticals.
 
 it will never be fun ... (in most cases one will use suggested 
 combinations and then for odd cases like a section title something special)
Don't be that pessimistic ;-) Selecting the proper font *is* fun.

  I really would appreciate that (or any other easy usable) solution that
  provides a standardized way to handle weights/opticals with not too much
  overhead.
 
 given the huge differences in font collections there will never be an 
 easy way with fonts that come in many weights/widths/sizes .. at least I 
 cannot remember a project that I did where any system was present
That's a true point. But I think there is room for improvements. ConTeXt
supports a standardized interface for Bold/Sans/Italic/Slanted... font
variants and it lacks an interface for (more) weights/widths.
 
Of course the person setting up the (whatever variant of) typescript(s) has to
do some investiation about the font. But after that the user should be
provided with standardized commands for the weights/widths.


Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 09:25:26AM -0400, John Culleton wrote:
 On Tuesday 21 September 2010 18:37:48 Khaled Hosny wrote:
  On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 06:17:41PM -0400, John Culleton wrote:
   Well I have been typesetting books in plain tex and pdftex for a
   decade or more. Supposedly luatex is a superset of pdftex that
   makes finding fonts easier and eliminates the generation of tmf
   files. But I seem to be sinking into a deeper swamp.
 
  If you all what you want is plain TeX, then why you are looking for
  ConTeXt solutions, I mean you don't need ConTeXt nor ConTeXt file
  locating system (which does not use kpathsea) to use plain format.
 
  The issue you have is because your ConTeXt MkIV is not properly
  setup yet (true for fresh TeXLive 2010 installs). You need to run
  `luatools -generate` to generate the file database (used to
  locating files, similar to running texhash and likes, but TeXLive
  scripts does not run it by default). Then you need to set your
  system font paths, by setting OSFONTDIR, and ConTeXt will then be
  able find system fonts.
 
  However, you don't need any of then to use system fonts with plain,
  there are already packages for this (based on dome of ConTeXt code,
  but adapted to be self contained and ConTeXt independent).
 
  A small test file would be:
 
  \input luaotfload.sty % works for plain despite the .sty
  \font\pagella={name:TeX Gyre Pagella:script=latn;+onum} at 10pt
  \font\termes={file:texgyretermes-regular.otf:script=latn} at 10pt
  \pagella some text 12345\par
  \termes other text
  \bye
 
  This should work out of box on texlive (at first run it will take
  some time building font database). If it does not work, it is a
  bug.
 
  For LaTeX, just check fontspec documentation, and there is a
  lualatex-dev list on CTAN, and luatex list for general, non-ConTeXt
  questions.
 
  Regards,
   Khaled
 Now that works! I'll try it on my XP partition also to see how well I 
 fare.  And I need to fiddle with some non-Gyre fonts as well. 
 
 You mentioned building a database, and yes that took some time. Is 
 there a way to have it scan fonts in /usr/share/fonts as well?

By default on Linux it will attempt to read /etc/fonts/fonts.conf and
detect system font directories, so /usr/share/fonts (and ~/.fonts)
should work, you can override this by explicitly setting OSFONTDIR, in
this case it will only search the specified directories (it is a
regular kpathsea variable).

Regards,
 Khaled

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread John Culleton
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 09:27:52 Alan BRASLAU wrote:
 On Wednesday 22 September 2010 15:25:26 John Culleton wrote:
  You mentioned building a database, and yes that took some time.
  Is there a way to have it scan fonts in /usr/share/fonts as well?

 export OSFONTDIR=/usr/share/fonts

 Alan
We are getting close! Thanks for your help.

That works for OTF fonts in /usr/share/fonts/OTF  and TTF in 
/usr/share/fonts/TTF but apparently not for Type1 fonts in 
/usr/share/fonts/Type1. The line below confuses the system:

\font\barr={file:AGaramond-Regular.pfb} at 30bp

Here is the error message:
argument #2 to 'find_file' (invalid option 'pfb').

I tried it with afm and no suffix at all but they didn't work either. 


What is the magic formula for Type1? 

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread Khaled Hosny
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:22:36PM -0400, John Culleton wrote:
 On Wednesday 22 September 2010 09:27:52 Alan BRASLAU wrote:
  On Wednesday 22 September 2010 15:25:26 John Culleton wrote:
   You mentioned building a database, and yes that took some time.
   Is there a way to have it scan fonts in /usr/share/fonts as well?
 
  export OSFONTDIR=/usr/share/fonts
 
  Alan
 We are getting close! Thanks for your help.
 
 That works for OTF fonts in /usr/share/fonts/OTF  and TTF in 
 /usr/share/fonts/TTF but apparently not for Type1 fonts in 
 /usr/share/fonts/Type1. The line below confuses the system:
 
 \font\barr={file:AGaramond-Regular.pfb} at 30bp

Right now, luaotfload does not support Type1 fonts, you have to load them
through the old TFM mechanism (the same way as in PDFTeX, nothing
changed in this area). But since this is the second request to support
Type1 fonts, I might try to steal some more code from ConTeXt that deal
with Type1 fonts, but I'm bit busy now with my fonts.

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Re: [NTG-context] Update ConTeXt into TL2010... Ctx in TL2010 Ctx minimals simultaneously

2010-09-22 Thread Jaroslav Hajtmar

Thanx... Mojca
Will simultaneously use the ConTeXt minimals and ConTeXt  in the TL2010?
Does anyone with experience? I'd hate to spoil the installation

Jaroslav



Dne 22.9.2010 15:31, Mojca Miklavec napsal(a):

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 15:11, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:
   

Hello,
Is there anyone who updated ConTeXt MkIV in TL2010? Is there more
information about how this can be done safely? (where you copy and what to
run ...)
 

You may use
 tlmgr update --all
but this will only update some minor trivial fixes (for example I just
commited fixes for Antykwa Poltawskiego after the font has been
released).

If you want to have the latest ConTeXt, you also need to update
luatex, but also some other tools have changed since TL release.

I would suggest to install minimals if you want the latest ConTeXt ...
or at least wait for Taco's new server. Apart from that you are free
to put the latest ConTeXt into texmf-local, replace luatex binary with
the one from minimals and update mtxrun script manually. It is not
nice  clean to do it, but it should work. (If anything breaks badly,
you might end up installing from scratch, but well ...)

Mojca

   


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Re: [NTG-context] Update ConTeXt into TL2010... Ctx in TL2010 Ctx minimals simultaneously

2010-09-22 Thread Mojca Miklavec
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 18:43, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:
 Thanx... Mojca
 Will simultaneously use the ConTeXt minimals and ConTeXt  in the TL2010?
 Does anyone with experience? I'd hate to spoil the installation

I have two installations of TeX Live, one is somehow globally set
somewhere (MacTeX 2010), I initialize one with
export PATH=~/bin:~/soft/texlive/2010/bin/x86_64-darwin:$PATH
in .bash_profile (and that one is used in Terminal/shell if I don't do
anything extra).

In addition I have zillions of ConTeXt minimals lying around. Every
time when I want to switch to ConTeXt minimals, I execute
. ~/context/tex/setuptex
(or add ~/context/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin to PATH variable - which is
equivalent to executing setuptex).

I could have added ~/context/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin to PATH in
.bash_profile and then minimals would be used by default and I would
have to modify path whenever I would want to use TeX Live.

Basically all you need to do to change the distribution used is to change PATH.

Mojca
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[NTG-context] producing offprints

2010-09-22 Thread Bowen Alan C.
I use a structure like

\startproduct prd_JournalVolume

\component c_A.tex
\component c_B.tex

\stopproduct

to produce a single PDF file for the volume of a journal. Is there a way in 
MKII to adapt this so that instead of a single JournalVolume.pdf, I get
c_A.pdf
c_B.pdf
where each component file has the  proper pagination as well as functioning 
external and internal hyperlinks?

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[NTG-context] \startchapter syntax

2010-09-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Hello,

What is the correct syntax to define a reference
with \startstructure\stopstructure?

\starttext
\startchapter [ref] [title=My title]
\stopchapter
\stoptext

Yields:
check   : missing or ungrouped '=' after 'ref' in line 2 (@@ns)

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Re: [NTG-context] \startchapter syntax

2010-09-22 Thread Alan BRASLAU
On Wednesday 22 September 2010 21:22:45 Alan BRASLAU wrote:
 Hello,
 
 What is the correct syntax to define a reference
 with \startstructure\stopstructure?
 
 \starttext
 \startchapter [ref] [title=My title]
 \stopchapter
 \stoptext
 
 Yields:
 check   : missing or ungrouped '=' after 'ref' in line 2 (@@ns)
 

\startchapter [reference=ref,title={My title}]
\stopchapter

Of course!

(You see, I was even faster than Wolfgang!)

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2010-09-22 um 18:34 schrieb Khaled Hosny:


That works for OTF fonts in /usr/share/fonts/OTF  and TTF in
/usr/share/fonts/TTF but apparently not for Type1 fonts in
/usr/share/fonts/Type1. The line below confuses the system:

\font\barr={file:AGaramond-Regular.pfb} at 30bp


Right now, luaotfload does not support Type1 fonts, you have to load  
them

through the old TFM mechanism (the same way as in PDFTeX, nothing
changed in this area). But since this is the second request to support
Type1 fonts, I might try to steal some more code from ConTeXt that  
deal

with Type1 fonts, but I'm bit busy now with my fonts.



John:
For ConTeXt you need AFM files to use Type1; I guess that will become  
the same for luaotfload.



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[NTG-context] startlocalfootnotes

2010-09-22 Thread Andreas Harder
Hi,

it seems that it is not longer possible to set options for local footnotes.

\starttext
\startbuffer
\bTABLE
\bTR \bTD one \footnote{\dorecurse{10}{abcd }} \eTD \bTD two \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD three fout five six seven eight nine \eTD \bTD ten \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stopbuffer

\startlocalfootnotes[n=0,location={text,none}]
  \placelegend[n=2]{\getbuffer}{\placelocalfootnotes}
\stoplocalfootnotes

Has the syntax changed?

Greeting 
Andreas
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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2010-09-22 um 14:29 schrieb Andreas Harder:

Am 22.09.2010 um 14:25 schrieb Alan BRASLAU:
Results in Undefined control sequence. \setupbackend (newest beta;  
OS X) …



Works for me on OSX-Intel.

You didn't try texexec (MkII), did you?

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Re: [NTG-context] Fonts

2010-09-22 Thread Hans Hagen

On 22-9-2010 11:38, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:

Am 2010-09-22 um 18:34 schrieb Khaled Hosny:


That works for OTF fonts in /usr/share/fonts/OTF and TTF in
/usr/share/fonts/TTF but apparently not for Type1 fonts in
/usr/share/fonts/Type1. The line below confuses the system:

\font\barr={file:AGaramond-Regular.pfb} at 30bp


Right now, luaotfload does not support Type1 fonts, you have to load them
through the old TFM mechanism (the same way as in PDFTeX, nothing
changed in this area). But since this is the second request to support
Type1 fonts, I might try to steal some more code from ConTeXt that deal
with Type1 fonts, but I'm bit busy now with my fonts.



John:
For ConTeXt you need AFM files to use Type1; I guess that will become
the same for luaotfload.


the main reason why afm loading is not in the generic code is that it's 
most likely to be incompatible; context always used the afm approach 
(via texfont) while latex has relied on the prebuilt tfm files, and they 
use different metrics geared at latex (things are different for the gyre 
fonts but one would use the otf files there). There is not that much to 
gain as most type one fonts are rather incomplete.


Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] export

2010-09-22 Thread Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Hi,

Please tell an (really) unlucky person who didn't visited the conference 
(like me), what \setupbackeds[export=yes] should do at all?


:)

Regards,
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[NTG-context] Questions regarding the bibliography

2010-09-22 Thread Marco
Hi,

I've a bunch of questions regarding the bibliography. I didn't find much
useful information somewhere, neither in the wiki, the manual or in
bibmod-doc.pdf. If my questions are answered elsewhere feel free to point me
to the right direction.

1) Why are there redundant keys in the publication list:
\startpublication [
  k=ram,
  t=book,
  a=Ramez Elmasri, % BTW: How to input many authors in this place?
  y=1981,  % not taken into account
  u=http://foo.bar.com
]
\author {Ramez}[R.]{}{Elmasri} % Is it OK to leave out the first bracket?
\pubyear {2007}
\biburl {http://foo.bar.com}
\stoppublication

I checked that the »y=1981« is not taken into account, in fact I can remove it
without problems, if I remove \pubyear it doesn't work. What's »y=...« for?
Same goes for \author vs. a=... Why two locations for the author and url...?

2) What about not valid entries? \biburl for example is not a valid BibTeX
entry type, it's neither required, nor optional. Can I provide it without
running into problems? Providing for example \country leads to problems with
the year. But \biburl is not used in the style, \country is.

3) During testing I forgot to say \usemodule[bib] and it worked well. Is this
line not needed any more?

4) How to specify the \edition entry? Use the attached file for testing. If I
specify \edition {5} I get »5 edition« using the setup
\setuppublications[alternative=num]. That's wrong, either 5th edition or
edition 5. When I use \setuppublications[alternative=ams] I get 5th ed. That's
correct. For this reason I cannot enter \edition {5th}. The correct input
should be independent from the style used.

5) How to specify online sources? BibTeX has no proper data type for this. But
BibLaTeX has the type »online« with the special field urldate (for the access
date). Maybe there's a corresponding functionality in ConTeXt.


Thanks in advance.

Regards
Marco
\startbuffer[mukk]
\startpublication
  [k=fundamentals,
   y=1981,
   t=book]
\title {Fundamentals of Database Systems}
\author {Ramez}[R.]{}{Elmasri}
\author {Shamkant B.}[S.\,B.]{}{Navathe}
\pubyear {2007}
\pubname {Addison Wesley}
\edition {5}
\city {Boston}
\stoppublication

\startpublication
  [k=garden,
   t=misc, % What to use here?
   u=http://wiki.contextgarden.net % What is this line for?
  ]
\title {\ConTeXt-Garden}
\biburl {http://wiki.contextgarden.net}
\stoppublication
\stopbuffer
\savebuffer[mukk][\jobname.bbl]

\setuppublications [alternative=ams]
% \setuppublications [alternative=num] % Look for edition

\starttext
As you can see in \cite[fundamentals] or in \cite[garden].

\placepublications
\stoptext
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[NTG-context] Problem with --autopdf in current beta

2010-09-22 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hi Hans, Hi all,

with the last beta i get following error message:

mtxrun --autogenerate --script context --autopdf --pdf callunatest.tex
...al/texmf-context/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:649: attempt
to call field 'setmethod' (a nil value)
Exit code: 1

I use the latest minimal under WinXP.

Greetings Lutz
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