Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt
Maurice Diamantini wrote: > Le 8 avr. 08 à 22:48, Gour a écrit : > >> Henning> How about a list of books (or everything else) made with >> Henning> ConTeXt? >> >> How about to make book about ConTeXt? > > :-))) > > I guess that with the upcomming luatex, mkiv or other lua-metapost, > there > will never be a context book!? > but I hope there will be a "mark" (or any next conTeXt name) book mkii and mkiv are just version tags, it's still context if there is to be a book, it will be about context mkiv (less hassle with encodings and funny chars and ...) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt
> ConTeXt is not a simple language library, but a full typing system > which need a true documentation. True > So, even if a command reference could be read online (or in source > code ;-), True; actually there is something at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/User:Luigi.scarso/modules.pdf but I'm (slowly) changing it > P.S. > I don't use any more ConTeXt for some raison (I come back to LaTex) :( > But I keep looking at the mailing list and I hope to come back to > ConTeXt > some months later. :) > I keep thinking that ConTeXt is the future of LaTeX! True -- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt
On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Maurice Diamantini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Le 8 avr. 08 à 22:48, Gour a écrit : > > > Henning> How about a list of books (or everything else) made with > > Henning> ConTeXt? > > > > How about to make book about ConTeXt? > > :-))) > > I guess that with the upcomming luatex, mkiv or other lua-metapost, > there will never be a context book!? Why, the interface will not change, you shouldn't notice any difference between pdfTeX, XeTeX or LuaTeX. MkIV has a new method (xml setups) to use XML files but the old one (xml definitions) could be used without problems. Font setup changed slightly with MkIV but this happened also for XeTeX a few times in the past. The rest conceirns only bug fixes or new features. > ... but I hope there will be a "mark" (or any next conTeXt name) book http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-41.htm > ConTeXt is not a simple language library, but a full typing system > which need a true documentation. > So, even if a command reference could be read online (or in source > code ;-), http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-10.htm > An extended user manual (e.g. equivalent to the old manual + the > official tabular system, + ...) is still needed. You could try to merge the big manual and the starter manual. The sources are available only. > A ConTeXt book would provide a stable base for learning ConTeXt. > The ConTeXt version would also serve as basis for features, and any > future online docs could be classified as "before" (read "obsolete") > or "after" the context book. None of ConTeXt's manuals are obsolete, the big manuals provides the basic for daily works and the other manual cover special topics like colummns, integrations of MetaPost ... > Also all ConTeXt features from the book should be suppose to work > except if mentioned in an online correction documentation. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book about ConTeXt
Le 8 avr. 08 à 22:48, Gour a écrit : > Henning> How about a list of books (or everything else) made with > Henning> ConTeXt? > > How about to make book about ConTeXt? :-))) I guess that with the upcomming luatex, mkiv or other lua-metapost, there will never be a context book!? ... but I hope there will be a "mark" (or any next conTeXt name) book ConTeXt is not a simple language library, but a full typing system which need a true documentation. So, even if a command reference could be read online (or in source code ;-), An extended user manual (e.g. equivalent to the old manual + the official tabular system, + ...) is still needed. A ConTeXt book would provide a stable base for learning ConTeXt. The ConTeXt version would also serve as basis for features, and any future online docs could be classified as "before" (read "obsolete") or "after" the context book. Also all ConTeXt features from the book should be suppose to work except if mentioned in an online correction documentation. P.S. I don't use any more ConTeXt for some raison (I come back to LaTex) But I keep looking at the mailing list and I hope to come back to ConTeXt some months later. I keep thinking that ConTeXt is the future of LaTeX! -- Maurice ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
A book is not at all a repository of code or a reference. It can be foundational, and in that case you'll just keep on reading for many years. (the TeX Book) A serious update and expansion of the manual would be enough. Best -a- On 9 Apr 2008, at 09:06, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: 2008/4/9, Gour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Andrea> Always asked for. But nobody raise a hand...:-) Andrea> I would read it eagerly I would even buy it ;) I wouldn't - I've a shelf full of development books but always only use online docs. In this area books simply are too slow. Greetlings, Hraban __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
2008/4/9, Gour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Andrea> Always asked for. But nobody raise a hand...:-) > Andrea> I would read it eagerly > I would even buy it ;) I wouldn't - I've a shelf full of development books but always only use online docs. In this area books simply are too slow. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
> "Andrea" == Andrea Valle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Andrea> Always asked for. But nobody raise a hand...:-) Andrea> I would read it eagerly I would even buy it ;) Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgpC1G3OodeeL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book __ about typesetting, as an art, to print "Beautiful books"
On 8 Apr 2008, at 23:08, Giulio Bertellini wrote: Sitting in a Paris restaurant, equipped with WI/FI and after a couple of wine glasses. Giulio, che invidia (such an envy) :) -a- -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book __ about typesetting, as an art, to print "Beautiful books"
Sitting in a Paris restaurant, equipped with WI/FI and after a couple of wine glasses. I really like your work. It would be interesting to see the sources and to learn the tricks (your used). The look is great. Thanks to Hans for the beautiful gift to the World. One final comment. I think the typesetting is fine, technically speaking, but, overall, the spacing is too tight. It is not relaxing. Readers should be more confortable. WHAT IS THE THINKING OF THIS COMMUNITY. I am not a typesetter, but setting type, good typesetting is difficult to express. It transcends words. It's about feelings and type. Personally, I think that Prof.Dr.med. should be typeset differently. How can we accept Prof, Dr. Med, with not spaces in between, perhaps thin spaces. Congratulations, however. Giulio Bertellini On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Jörg Hagmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear list members, > > My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell füssli as an UTB > book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in > particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the "Thank you" section > of the book as well). > > You'll find a few sample pages under: > www.ogbasel.ch/context.html (2.5MB) > > Page and margin sizes prescribed by the publisher. The pages illustrate: > > p. 7: The use of inmargin text. > p. 79: a "vignette", in the margin and partially in the text area. > p. 110: The height of some margin figures was large, necessitating > manual adjustments. > p. 145: A framed box and a wide table. The large number of enumerations, > figures, frames etc. made some typographical sins inevitable (e.g. last > line on this page). > p. 155: textbody and margin completely filled > p. 190: I include this page for Willi and Thomas > p. 235: Some chapters end with what students really need to know (red > background). This is the end of the chapter on nutrition > p. 239: The "Toolbox" contains framed figures without a legend. > > -- > Prof.Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari > Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics > Centre of Biomedicine, University of Basel > Mattenstrasse 28 > CH-4058 Basel > Switzerland > Phone +41 (0)61 267 3565 > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
Always asked for. But nobody raise a hand...:-) I would read it eagerly -a- On 8 Apr 2008, at 22:48, Gour wrote: "Henning" == Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Henning> How about a list of books (or everything else) made with Henning> ConTeXt? How about to make book about ConTeXt? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
> "Henning" == Henning Hraban Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Henning> How about a list of books (or everything else) made with Henning> ConTeXt? How about to make book about ConTeXt? Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgp79HeHAGaTs.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
Impressive Congrats -a- On 8 Apr 2008, at 15:16, Jörg Hagmann wrote: Dear list members, My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell füssli as an UTB book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the "Thank you" section of the book as well). You'll find a few sample pages under: www.ogbasel.ch/context.html (2.5MB) Page and margin sizes prescribed by the publisher. The pages illustrate: p. 7: The use of inmargin text. p. 79: a "vignette", in the margin and partially in the text area. p. 110: The height of some margin figures was large, necessitating manual adjustments. p. 145: A framed box and a wide table. The large number of enumerations, figures, frames etc. made some typographical sins inevitable (e.g. last line on this page). p. 155: textbody and margin completely filled p. 190: I include this page for Willi and Thomas p. 235: Some chapters end with what students really need to know (red background). This is the end of the chapter on nutrition p. 239: The "Toolbox" contains framed figures without a legend. -- Prof.Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics Centre of Biomedicine, University of Basel Mattenstrasse 28 CH-4058 Basel Switzerland Phone +41 (0)61 267 3565 __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
Am 2008-04-08 um 16:15 schrieb luigi scarso: > What about to put it on the wiki ? How about a list of books (or everything else) made with ConTeXt? Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Jörg Hagmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear list members, > > My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell füssli as an UTB > book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in > particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the "Thank you" section > of the book as well). > > You'll find a few sample pages under: > www.ogbasel.ch/context.html (2.5MB) What about to put it on the wiki ? -- luigi it's new . it's powerful . it's luatex . http://www.luatex.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
Very nice! Thanks for sharing! Cheers, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jörg Hagmann Sent: Tue 4/8/2008 8:16 AM To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Subject: [NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book Dear list members, My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell füssli as an UTB book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the "Thank you" section of the book as well). You'll find a few sample pages under: www.ogbasel.ch/context.html (2.5MB) Page and margin sizes prescribed by the publisher. The pages illustrate: p. 7: The use of inmargin text. p. 79: a "vignette", in the margin and partially in the text area. p. 110: The height of some margin figures was large, necessitating manual adjustments. p. 145: A framed box and a wide table. The large number of enumerations, figures, frames etc. made some typographical sins inevitable (e.g. last line on this page). p. 155: textbody and margin completely filled p. 190: I include this page for Willi and Thomas p. 235: Some chapters end with what students really need to know (red background). This is the end of the chapter on nutrition p. 239: The "Toolbox" contains framed figures without a legend. -- Prof.Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics Centre of Biomedicine, University of Basel Mattenstrasse 28 CH-4058 Basel Switzerland Phone +41 (0)61 267 3565 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] ConTEXt - produced book
Dear list members, My biochemistry textbook has been published by orell füssli as an UTB book. I would like to thank all the members of this list, and Hans in particular, for their help (acknowledgements in the "Thank you" section of the book as well). You'll find a few sample pages under: www.ogbasel.ch/context.html (2.5MB) Page and margin sizes prescribed by the publisher. The pages illustrate: p. 7: The use of inmargin text. p. 79: a "vignette", in the margin and partially in the text area. p. 110: The height of some margin figures was large, necessitating manual adjustments. p. 145: A framed box and a wide table. The large number of enumerations, figures, frames etc. made some typographical sins inevitable (e.g. last line on this page). p. 155: textbody and margin completely filled p. 190: I include this page for Willi and Thomas p. 235: Some chapters end with what students really need to know (red background). This is the end of the chapter on nutrition p. 239: The "Toolbox" contains framed figures without a legend. -- Prof.Dr.med. Jörg Hagmann-Zanolari Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics Centre of Biomedicine, University of Basel Mattenstrasse 28 CH-4058 Basel Switzerland Phone +41 (0)61 267 3565 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
