Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Oct 6, 2010, at 04:02 , R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2010 11:15 PM, Florian Wobbe wrote: I used to update TeXLive 2009 successfully with this method, however I ran into the same error when updating TeXLive 2010. As I did not succeed and could not figure out what caused the error I installed minimals without problems. I suggest you install minimals and point the environment variable OSFONTDIR to your TeXLive tree. This adds only about 200MiB to your disk which is rather neglectable compared to the 2.7GiB of a full TeXLive. I trust that minimals is what I was updating using with rsync and that it is a cut-down version of the ConTeXt distribution that came with TeXLive 2010. No, you clobbered your TeXLive distro with the current context beta. Can I put minimals in $TEXMFHOME which is ~/texmf on my system? That seems to be the place where I can keep stuff newer than TeXLive 2010 without conflict. Can minimals function standalone, though, or will I run into mismatches with TeXLive 2010 again? I wouldn't try and mix minimals with TeXLive. Let TeXLive and minimals live side by side and they don't hurt each other. Make sure you set your PATH environment and put context/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin before the TeXLive binary path. This way the executables from minimals get preference over those from TeXLive and you'd still be able to run latex without changing your environment. Also, should OSFONTDIR then point to /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf/ or to something else? You would want to point it at /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/fonts// so that mtxrun --script fonts --reload finds the fonts that come with your TeXLive. Mine looks like this: OSFONTDIR=/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/fonts//:/Library/Fonts//:/System/Library/Fonts// Florian ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 6-10-2010 4:02, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2010 11:15 PM, Florian Wobbe wrote: I used to update TeXLive 2009 successfully with this method, however I ran into the same error when updating TeXLive 2010. As I did not succeed and could not figure out what caused the error I installed minimals without problems. I suggest you install minimals and point the environment variable OSFONTDIR to your TeXLive tree. This adds only about 200MiB to your disk which is rather neglectable compared to the 2.7GiB of a full TeXLive. I trust that minimals is what I was updating using with rsync and that it is a cut-down version of the ConTeXt distribution that came with TeXLive 2010. The word minimal refers to a minimal tex distribution and it started as a small subset of tex live: only context, some fonts and a few binaries. They were zips at our website till Mojca cum suis turned it into a nicely syncable whole. So, there is overlap between the minimals and tex live but normally the minimals have newer files (tex, fonts, binaries). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 6-10-2010 9:32, Florian Wobbe wrote: No, you clobbered your TeXLive distro with the current context beta. normally that would work out ok given that you delete the old base path and also update luatex binaries, but in 2010 it also demands installing texmfcnf.lua as we no longer use texmf.cnf - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 04:07, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: If I wanted to fix my broken TeXLive, should I just re-install ConTeXt from the TeXLive 2010 DVD or should I do a full re-install of the full scheme? You have two options: a) finish what you started b) reinstall In case of reinstall, it should be enough if you reinstall context and luatex, I guess that can be done with: tlmgr install --reinstall context luatex You will have some leftovers (extra files), but that should in general not be a problem. (You can try to delete (= first move to some other place) texmf-dist/tex/context before reinstalling if tmlgr won't complain too much about missing files that cannot be removed.) If something goes very bad, you can of course always reinstall everything, but if the above works, there's no reason to worry. If you want to finish what you have just started, you need to also sync mtxrun and fetch texmfcnf.lua from minimals and fix it according to TL structure. (That's slightly more non-trivial.) I almost forgot about that file when I said that one should also update mtxrun. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 04:02, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: Can I put minimals in $TEXMFHOME which is ~/texmf on my system? That seems to be the place where I can keep stuff newer than TeXLive 2010 without conflict. Can minimals function standalone, though, or will I run into mismatches with TeXLive 2010 again? That would be a bad idea. First of all - it's much better to install minimals in parallel. If nothing else, if the latest beta breaks, you will still have a working ConTeXt somewhere. But the main reason is that even if you put the latest ConTeXt into TEXMFHOME, you will still experience problems because: - you need the latest luatex - you need the latest mtxrun script - you need to fix texmfcnf.lua (you could do this without breaking the rest of TL though, but you need to do it manually) Also, should OSFONTDIR then point to /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf/ or to something else? This is usually the folder where your system stores fonts. LuaTeX can already find all the fonts in TEXMF tree, you probably want to tell LuaTeX where all the other fonts are. If you don't need any other fonts but those that are shipped with TL, you may leave this variable empty. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Wednesday 06 October 2010 03:33 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 04:07, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: If I wanted to fix my broken TeXLive, should I just re-install ConTeXt from the TeXLive 2010 DVD or should I do a full re-install of the full scheme? You have two options: a) finish what you started b) reinstall In case of reinstall, it should be enough if you reinstall context and luatex, I guess that can be done with: tlmgr install --reinstall context luatex You will have some leftovers (extra files), but that should in general not be a problem. (You can try to delete (= first move to some other place) texmf-dist/tex/context before reinstalling if tmlgr won't complain too much about missing files that cannot be removed.) Before I saw your reply I did the following: 1. mv /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context /tmp 2. Installed the ConteXt scheme from the TeXLive 2010 DVD along with the following further customizations, just in case they had been altered: Extra Fonts Recommended Fonts TeX and Outline Fonts Extra Formats LuaTeX packages 3. tlmgr update --self --all 4. luatools --generate context --make The context from TeXLive 2010 works fine but texexec fails with this message: --- ConTeXt ver: 2010.07.30 11:35 MKII fmt: 2010.10.5 int: english/english system : cont-new loaded (/localhost/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex FatalError : Your format does not match the base files! -- If something goes very bad, you can of course always reinstall everything, but if the above works, there's no reason to worry. It looks like that :-( If you want to finish what you have just started, you need to also sync mtxrun and fetch texmfcnf.lua from minimals and fix it according to TL structure. (That's slightly more non-trivial.) I almost forgot about that file when I said that one should also update mtxrun. Wanting to have both context minimals and TeXLive 2010--modified only by tlmgr--coexisting, I tried to install the minimals in a directory called ~/local-context using the following commands: rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/current/ \ ~/local-context/ rsync -av --include 'mtxrun' --include 'luatools' \ rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/context/linux-64/bin/ \ ~/local-context/bin/ I then set the following environment variables: PATH=~/local-context/bin:$PATH; export PATH OSFONTDIR=/usr/local/share/fonts:/usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf/fonts:$HOME/.fonts; export OSFONTDIR Finally, I ran luatools --generate context --make context --make cont-en mtxrun --script fonts --reload But I got errors about some files not being resolved and context was broken. So, I unset the environment variables, and just to be doubly sure, repeated steps 1 to 4 above, to get a working context (but not texexec) from TeXLive 2010. If there is a complete error-free algorithm/script in future for making TeXLive 2010 and the context-minmals coexist independently I will appreciate knowing about it. Meanwhile, it looks like I need to reinstall TeXLive 2010 afresh. Thanks to everyone for all the explanations and help. Chandra ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 19:19, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar chyav...@gmail.com wrote: ConTeXt ver: 2010.07.30 11:35 MKII fmt: 2010.10.5 int: english/english system : cont-new loaded (/localhost/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex FatalError : Your format does not match the base files! Usually running (for the whole system) sudo fmtutil-sys --all or fmtutil-sys --all or texexec --make en should help. If not, try to figure out where an additional copy of cont-en.fmt resides, delete it and run any of commands above. You don't need to reinstall anything. Wanting to have both context minimals and TeXLive 2010--modified only by tlmgr--coexisting, I tried to install the minimals in a directory called ~/local-context using the following commands: rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/current/ \ ~/local-context/ rsync -av --include 'mtxrun' --include 'luatools' \ rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/context/linux-64/bin/ \ ~/local-context/bin/ No, no, no. You could go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/ and follow those instructions. You can do: cd ~/local-context rsync -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh . ./first-setup.sh and then use . ~/local-context/tex/setuptex when you want to switch. The method you use won't simply work for various reasons. If there is a complete error-free algorithm/script in future for making TeXLive 2010 and the context-minmals coexist independently I will appreciate knowing about it. The are able to coexist independently as long as you don't clone the instructions from wiki (now already removed fro wiki). Meanwhile, it looks like I need to reinstall TeXLive 2010 afresh. No, you just need to remake the formats. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 6-10-2010 8:09, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Meanwhile, it looks like I need to reinstall TeXLive 2010 afresh. No, you just need to remake the formats. context mkiv will make formats automatically (only mtxrun --generate is needed if files were added/removed) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Wednesday 06 October 2010 11:39 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 19:19, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar chyav...@gmail.com wrote: ConTeXt ver: 2010.07.30 11:35 MKII fmt: 2010.10.5 int: english/english system : cont-new loaded (/localhost/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex FatalError : Your format does not match the base files! Usually running (for the whole system) sudo fmtutil-sys --all or fmtutil-sys --all or texexec --make en should help. If not, try to figure out where an additional copy of cont-en.fmt resides, delete it and run any of commands above. You don't need to reinstall anything. Thank you very much. I did the following: 1. Deleted /localhost/texlive/2010/texmf-var/web2c/xetex/cont-en.fmt ./localhost/texlive/2010/texmf-var/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt 2. Ran fmtutil-sys --all 3. Ran texexec --make en All three steps were needed to get both texexec and context working under TeXLive 2010, and now they do. I have verified by looking at generator field of the PDF file properties. Wanting to have both context minimals and TeXLive 2010--modified only by tlmgr--coexisting, I tried to install the minimals in a directory called ~/local-context using the following commands: rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/current/ \ ~/local-context/ rsync -av --include 'mtxrun' --include 'luatools' \ rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/context/linux-64/bin/ \ ~/local-context/bin/ No, no, no. You could go to http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/ and follow those instructions. Thanks for the link. You can do: cd ~/local-context rsync -ptv rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh . ./first-setup.sh and then use . ~/local-context/tex/setuptex when you want to switch. The method you use won't simply work for various reasons. If there is a complete error-free algorithm/script in future for making TeXLive 2010 and the context-minmals coexist independently I will appreciate knowing about it. The are able to coexist independently as long as you don't clone the instructions from wiki (now already removed fro wiki). Meanwhile, it looks like I need to reinstall TeXLive 2010 afresh. No, you just need to remake the formats. Mojca Thank you. Chandra ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
* R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar chyav...@gmail.com [2010-10-05 22:33]: Dear Folks, When I compiled a trivial file called first.tex using texexec first I got in the output, inter alia, --- ConTeXt ver: 2010.07.30 11:35 MKII fmt: 2010.10.5 int: english/english --- Why am I not seeing Mk-IV yet? texexec gives MkII; context gives MkIV. I think this may need to be documented somewhere easier to find for those new to ConTeXt. -- David ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Oct 5, 2010, at 19:03 , R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: Dear Folks, I am a LaTeX user trying out ConTeXt for the first time. I am running TeXLive 2010 (full scheme) on a x86_64-linux platform. I have visited http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV and put the instructions there into an executable file: --- #! /bin/bash # # Manual update for ConTeXt in TeXLive 2010 as suggested at # # http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV # # Update ConTeXt rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/current/ /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/ # Update LuaTeX rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/luatex/linux-64/bin/luatex /usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/x86_64-linux/ # Run equivalent mktexlsr luatools --generate context --make context --make cont-en --- The last output lines after running this file are: --- LuaTools | runtime: 1.610 seconds .../2010/texmf-dist/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:985: attempt to call upvalue 'make_mkiv_format' (a nil value) .../2010/texmf-dist/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:985: attempt to call upvalue 'make_mkiv_format' (a nil value) --- I used to update TeXLive 2009 successfully with this method, however I ran into the same error when updating TeXLive 2010. As I did not succeed and could not figure out what caused the error I installed minimals without problems. I suggest you install minimals and point the environment variable OSFONTDIR to your TeXLive tree. This adds only about 200MiB to your disk which is rather neglectable compared to the 2.7GiB of a full TeXLive. When I compiled a trivial file called first.tex using texexec first I got in the output, inter alia, --- ConTeXt ver: 2010.07.30 11:35 MKII fmt: 2010.10.5 int: english/english --- Why am I not seeing Mk-IV yet? see http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20101003.061025.ee87f16c.en.html Cheers Florian ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 10/5/2010 12:32 PM, David Rogers wrote: texexec gives MkII; context gives MkIV. I think this may need to be documented somewhere easier to find for those new to ConTeXt. I fell into this trap because either the Beginner's manual or some other specifically says to run TeXexec instead of ConTeXt -- since (it says) TeXexec will run automatically as many times as needed. The implication is that TeXexec is smarter than ConTeXt. I am brand new to ConTeXt and wanted to learn the new stuff and not spend any time with MkII, and I was surprised to see the difference between the two tools. [Update: the First Document tutorial suggests using TeXexec ... and that's probably where I first went wrong.] Tom. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 11:02 PM, David Rogers wrote: texexec gives MkII; context gives MkIV. I think this may need to be documented somewhere easier to find for those new to ConTeXt. Thank you for that. When I do context first I get, again among other output, the following at the head and tail of output respectively: --- MTXrun | warning: engine mismatch (luv:This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071218 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736) bin:This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.63.0-2010090921), forcing remake ---snip--- .../2010/texmf-dist/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:985: attempt to call upvalue 'make_mkiv_format' (a nil value) --- Moreover, context first | grep -i Mk again gives the tail-end output: --- .../2010/texmf-dist/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:985: attempt to call upvalue 'make_mkiv_format' (a nil value) --- Can this be ignored or is it a cause for concern? If the latter, how can it be fixed? Thank you. Chandra ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Oct 5, 2010, at 19:54 , R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: On Tuesday 05 October 2010 11:02 PM, David Rogers wrote: When I do context first I get, again among other output, the following at the head and tail of output respectively: --- MTXrun | warning: engine mismatch (luv:This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071218 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736) bin:This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.63.0-2010090921), forcing remake ---snip--- .../2010/texmf-dist/scripts/context/lua/mtx-context.lua:985: attempt to call upvalue 'make_mkiv_format' (a nil value) --- [...] Can this be ignored or is it a cause for concern? If the latter, how can it be fixed? This is the result of the broken TeXLive 2010 installation. It should have worked out of the box before your failed update attempt. Try again with a clean TeXLive 2010 or install minimals. Florian ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 10/5/2010 1:07 PM, Florian Wobbe wrote: This is the result of the broken TeXLive 2010 installation. It should have worked out of the box before your failed update attempt. Try again with a clean TeXLive 2010 or install minimals. This is the second trap I fell into by following the instructions in the manuals: all that rsync stuff jazzed up my TeXLive 2010 installation and I had to reinstall. This bad advice is found on the Running Mark IV page on the wiki. Of course, I wanted to run MkIV and ended up spending another hour reinstalling TeXLive to get it back. On my desktop machine I have both TeXLive (for Cygwin) and ConTeXt minimals (for Windows) installed, my notebook has only TeXLive. I am no longer tempted to update any of these, even if I prefer to stay current. As a newbie, I wanted to try out the Concrete Roman font ... but abandoned that quest when it looked like I was going to have to tinker with the internals again. I am now staying firmly on the end user side of the ConTeXt fence. Tom. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 19:03, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: Dear Folks, I am a LaTeX user trying out ConTeXt for the first time. I am running TeXLive 2010 (full scheme) on a x86_64-linux platform. I have visited http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Running_Mark_IV and put the instructions there into an executable file: Thank you. I was searching for that piece of information on the wiki, but wasn't able to find the right page. I have removed it now to avoid any further confusion. The instructions were necessary back in 2009 since ConTeXt was seriously broken in TL, but now that ConTeXt at least runs, even if outdated, it might be better to have a parallel installation of minimals, or to update it via tlmgr. In the meantime, since you probably need to fix the installation at least, you may try to run rsync -av --include 'mtxrun' --include 'luatools' \ rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/context/linux-64/bin/ \ /usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/x86-64-linux/ in order to at least get the two scripts back in a working condition. In a very short time (probably at the first current release of ConTeXt) one should be able to update it in TeX Live in a clean way. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
Does mtxrun --selfupdate help? On Tue, 5 Oct 2010, Tom Maynard wrote: On 10/5/2010 1:07 PM, Florian Wobbe wrote: This is the result of the broken TeXLive 2010 installation. It should have worked out of the box before your failed update attempt. Try again with a clean TeXLive 2010 or install minimals. This is the second trap I fell into by following the instructions in the manuals: all that rsync stuff jazzed up my TeXLive 2010 installation and I had to reinstall. This bad advice is found on the Running Mark IV page on the wiki. Of course, I wanted to run MkIV and ended up spending another hour reinstalling TeXLive to get it back. The last time I tried, context runs sucessfully out of the box in TL. You only need to do the rsync stuff if you want the latest beta. On my desktop machine I have both TeXLive (for Cygwin) and ConTeXt minimals (for Windows) installed, my notebook has only TeXLive. I am no longer tempted to update any of these, even if I prefer to stay current. You should not have any troubles updating the minimals. You can consider installing minimals on your notebook also (the install size is around 200MB). As a newbie, I wanted to try out the Concrete Roman font ... but abandoned that quest when it looked like I was going to have to tinker with the internals again. I am now staying firmly on the end user side of the ConTeXt fence. Using the font should be as easy as \usemodule[simplefonts] \setupmainfont[Concrete Roman] Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 5-10-2010 7:03, R (Chandra) Chandrasekhar wrote: I have used LuaLaTeX with fontspec quite successfully and would like to try ConTeXt with LuaTeX support in Mk-IV to compare ease of customization and use. I am happy to furnish more information if necessary. Sorry if my query sounds elementary, but I am new to ConTeXt. keep in mind that luatex dev is closely related to context mkiv and that often they need to be updated / installed in sync; the minimals deal with that; tex live is a yearly snapshot Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 10/5/2010 2:06 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Using the font should be as easy as \usemodule[simplefonts] \setupmainfont[Concrete Roman] ! Undefined control sequence. recently read \setupmainfront l.3 \setupmainfont [Concrete Roman] ? I spent quite some time yesterday trying to find out (A) if the font is actually installed (I think it is), and (B) what its name might be (I thought it might be cmuconcrete -- it isn't). But the same manuals that proved helpful before advised me as a beginner to stay away from fonts or I could get into trouble. I was and am ... and now I'm sticking with all the defaults. Tom. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Tom Maynard t...@maynard.com wrote: On 10/5/2010 2:06 PM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Using the font should be as easy as \usemodule[simplefonts] \setupmainfont[Concrete Roman] ! Undefined control sequence. recently read \setupmainfront l.3 \setupmainfont [Concrete Roman] ? I remember \setmainfont and not \setupmainfont -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On 10/5/2010 2:30 PM, luigi scarso wrote: I remember \setmainfont and not \setupmainfont That seems to work. Thank you very much. I appreciate your help. Tom. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 11:15 PM, Florian Wobbe wrote: I used to update TeXLive 2009 successfully with this method, however I ran into the same error when updating TeXLive 2010. As I did not succeed and could not figure out what caused the error I installed minimals without problems. I suggest you install minimals and point the environment variable OSFONTDIR to your TeXLive tree. This adds only about 200MiB to your disk which is rather neglectable compared to the 2.7GiB of a full TeXLive. I trust that minimals is what I was updating using with rsync and that it is a cut-down version of the ConTeXt distribution that came with TeXLive 2010. Can I put minimals in $TEXMFHOME which is ~/texmf on my system? That seems to be the place where I can keep stuff newer than TeXLive 2010 without conflict. Can minimals function standalone, though, or will I run into mismatches with TeXLive 2010 again? Also, should OSFONTDIR then point to /usr/local/texlive/2010/texmf/ or to something else? see http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20101003.061025.ee87f16c.en.html Thank you. That email was very helpful. Chandra ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Wednesday 06 October 2010 12:36 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote: Does mtxrun --selfupdate help? No, it did not for me. I got the same error after running it. The last time I tried, context runs sucessfully out of the box in TL. You only need to do the rsync stuff if you want the latest beta. If I wanted to fix my broken TeXLive, should I just re-install ConTeXt from the TeXLive 2010 DVD or should I do a full re-install of the full scheme? Chandra ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Running Mk-IV using TeXLive 2010
On Wednesday 06 October 2010 12:33 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: Thank you. I was searching for that piece of information on the wiki, but wasn't able to find the right page. I have removed it now to avoid any further confusion. The instructions were necessary back in 2009 since ConTeXt was seriously broken in TL, but now that ConTeXt at least runs, even if outdated, it might be better to have a parallel installation of minimals, or to update it via tlmgr. Are you saying that re-installing ConTeXt from the TeXLive 2010 DVD and periodically running tlmgr update --self --all should take care of any context updates? In any case, if I wished to use the minimals installation, can I set it up in my TEXMFHOME directory at ~/texmf by modifying the rsync target so: rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/context/current/ ~/texmf/ rsync -av rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/luatex/linux-64/bin/luatex ~/texmf Or would I be better advised to stay with what TeXLive 2010 provides for now? In the meantime, since you probably need to fix the installation at least, you may try to run rsync -av --include 'mtxrun' --include 'luatools' \ rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/current/bin/context/linux-64/bin/ \ /usr/local/texlive/2010/bin/x86-64-linux/ in order to at least get the two scripts back in a working condition. I did that and got the same error as reported previously. In a very short time (probably at the first current release of ConTeXt) one should be able to update it in TeX Live in a clean way. This seems the most convenient solution for me. When is this likely to happen and will a tlmgr update be all that I need then? Thank you. Chandra ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
