Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-19 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 18 2019, Alan Braslau wrote:

> manipulating them on the fly as one changes layout or image placement
> hardly seems efficient,

Our use cases are perhaps different: in my case, manipulating them on
the fly automatically is *very* efficient.


> even if one were to be clever in storing copies and looking at time
> stamps.

ConTeXt does it already in grph-inc.lua, no need to be clever... ;)

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-18 Thread Alan Braslau
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 23:50:24 +0100
Peter Münster  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 18 2019, Alan Braslau wrote:
> 
> > Incorrect, an image file contains width and height (in pixels) as well as a
> > resolution,  
> 
> Optionally a resolution in the metadata. Then, of course, you have a
> "natural size". But that doesn't matter, if you want other dimensions.

For example, in Context

\externalfigure [myfigure]

should give this natural size. Of course, you can always specify other 
dimensions,
in which case it gets scaled. Since what counts for our use in Context is 
usually
fixing a particular size, i.e. [width=\textwidth], the "resolution", i.e. 
density
in pixels is something that we want to control. So if we want to print to 300 
dpi,
for example, and we have a text width of 17cm, say, then we would like to have 
an
image that is some 2000 pixels in width. One can normalize one's collection of
images however one wishes, but manipulating them on the fly as one changes 
layout
or image placement hardly seems efficient, even if one were to be clever in 
storing
copies and looking at time stamps. A little bit of forethought might be better, 
and
more predictable.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-18 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 18 2019, Alan Braslau wrote:

> Incorrect, an image file contains width and height (in pixels) as well as a
> resolution,

Optionally a resolution in the metadata. Then, of course, you have a
"natural size". But that doesn't matter, if you want other dimensions.

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-18 Thread Alan Braslau
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:09:32 +0100
Peter Münster  wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 18 2019, Alan Braslau wrote:
> 
> > My working solution is to put figures in subdirectories by resolution,  
> 
> The purpose of the downsample module is something else: a well defined
> resolution of the image in the PDF-file. A bitmap image does not have a
> resolution, only a width and a height in pixels. The resolution gets
> defined, when you specify the real dimensions.
> 

Incorrect, an image file contains width and height (in pixels) as well as a 
resolution, and the combination gives real dimensions (for a natural size).

A proper scan of a real object specifies all of this.

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-18 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 18 2019, Alan Braslau wrote:

> My working solution is to put figures in subdirectories by resolution,

The purpose of the downsample module is something else: a well defined
resolution of the image in the PDF-file. A bitmap image does not have a
resolution, only a width and a height in pixels. The resolution gets
defined, when you specify the real dimensions.

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-18 Thread Alan Braslau
On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 10:13:20 +0100
Marco Patzer  wrote:

> Yes. I didn't put much thought into it and assumed there is a better
> solution.

My working solution is to put figures in subdirectories by resolution,
that is externally, once and for all, using whatever is your favorite tool
to "degrade" pixel resolution to whatever value one desires, then setting
global macro (\FigRes) to this subdirectory name.

So, for example,

\def\FigRes{300/}

...

\externalfigure [\FigRes MyFigureName]

I do this as I have *very* high resolution images as my source
(also high resolution "depth", i.e. 16 bit) and it makes no sense
to include these as is in my documents.

It's very robust.

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-18 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, Feb 18 2019, Marco Patzer wrote:

> assumed there is a better solution.

I guess, that Hans will tell us, if there is. And in the meantime, it
can be distributed IMO.

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-18 Thread Marco Patzer
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:14:14 +0100
Peter Münster  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 15 2019, Marco Patzer wrote:
> 
> > - It's 99% Peter's code, he's the maintainer of the module and
> >   probably he should just fix his code.  
> 
> Done.
> 
> 
> > - My modification contains an ugly hack that just renames all files
> >   to pdf, regardless of the actual file type because I have no clue
> >   how to do that properly.  
> 
> I've included your hack, because I don't have any better idea...

ok

> > That code shouldn't make it into the distribution.  
> 
> Why not? Just because of the hack?

Yes. I didn't put much thought into it and assumed there is a better
solution.

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-17 Thread Peter Münster
On Fri, Feb 15 2019, Marco Patzer wrote:

> - It's 99% Peter's code, he's the maintainer of the module and
>   probably he should just fix his code.

Done.


> - My modification contains an ugly hack that just renames all files
>   to pdf, regardless of the actual file type because I have no clue
>   how to do that properly.

I've included your hack, because I don't have any better idea...


> That code shouldn't make it into the distribution.

Why not? Just because of the hack?

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-15 Thread Marco Patzer
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:48:51 +0100
Lutz Haseloff  wrote:

> Your Module with wrapper finally works for me as expected.

Great to hear it's finally working.

> Will it find its way into the distribution as an  enhanced degrade
> module?

Probably not, for the following reasons:

- It's 99% Peter's code, he's the maintainer of the module and
  probably he should just fix his code.

- My modification contains an ugly hack that just renames all files
  to pdf, regardless of the actual file type because I have no clue
  how to do that properly. That code shouldn't make it into the
  distribution.

- I'm not fluent in Lua and am therefore not the right person to
  maintain a Lua module.

Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-15 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Thanks Marco,
Your Module with wrapper finally works for me as expected.
Thank you very much.
Will it find its way into the distribution as an  enhanced degrade module?

Greetings ant thanks again

Lutz

Am 15. Februar 2019 11:08:45 MEZ schrieb Marco Patzer :
>On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:22:48 +0100
>Lutz Haseloff  wrote:
>
>> but both scripts trow the same error on windows and linux-armhf:
>> 
>> grph-downsample.lua:32: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number has no
>> integer representation)
>
>It works here on linux-armhf. No Lua error. Maybe the file got
>mangled during transmission.
>
>I've uploaded a modified version to github, maybe try that one:
>
>  https://github.com/mpfusion/context-downsample
>
>It includes a wrapper so you can call it like any other module
>(\usemodule[downsample]). It's still Peter's code, but with small
>modifications, so it degrades jpg as well as png images at the same
>time. It's a quick hack, but works here, also on armhf.
>
>Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-15 Thread Marco Patzer
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 10:22:48 +0100
Lutz Haseloff  wrote:

> but both scripts trow the same error on windows and linux-armhf:
> 
> grph-downsample.lua:32: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number has no
> integer representation)

It works here on linux-armhf. No Lua error. Maybe the file got
mangled during transmission.

I've uploaded a modified version to github, maybe try that one:

  https://github.com/mpfusion/context-downsample

It includes a wrapper so you can call it like any other module
(\usemodule[downsample]). It's still Peter's code, but with small
modifications, so it degrades jpg as well as png images at the same
time. It's a quick hack, but works here, also on armhf.

Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-15 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Thank you Henning and Marco,

but both scripts trow the same error on windows and linux-armhf:

grph-downsample.lua:32: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number has no integer 
representation)

Hans' luacode seem not to change the resolution of the pictures at all.
It works, the size of the pictures get smaller but the resolution remains the 
same.

Greetings Lutz

Am 15. Februar 2019 08:25:35 MEZ schrieb Marco Patzer :
>On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 07:56:31 +0100
>Lutz Haseloff  wrote:
>
>> First i tried the grph-downsample.lua script.
>> Unfortunately i get an error message
>> grph-downsample.lua:31: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number has no
>> integer representation) See attached log file.
>
>I remember that error. The script worked up to a particular context
>version. I believe a Lua upgrade broke it. The version attached
>should work.
>
>Marco
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Marco Patzer
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 07:56:31 +0100
Lutz Haseloff  wrote:

> First i tried the grph-downsample.lua script.
> Unfortunately i get an error message
> grph-downsample.lua:31: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number has no
> integer representation) See attached log file.

I remember that error. The script worked up to a particular context
version. I believe a Lua upgrade broke it. The version attached
should work.

Marco
if not modules then modules = { } end modules ['t-downsample'] = {
  version   = 1.001,
  comment   = "companion to grph-inc.mkiv",
  author= "Peter Münster",
  copyright = "PRAGMA ADE / ConTeXt Development Team",
  license   = "see context related readme files"
}

local format = string.format
-- figures.cachepaths.path = "cache" -- should be setup-option
local function sample_down(oldname, newname, resolution)
	local request = figures.current().request
	local width = request.width
	local height = request.height
	if resolution == "" or (not width and not height) then
		print(format("Nothing to do: %s, %s, %s", oldname, newname, resolution))
		return
	end
	local inch = 72.27
	local image = img.scan{filename = oldname}
	local xy = image.xsize / image.ysize
	if not width then
		width = height * xy / 65536
	end
	if not height then
		height = width / xy / 65536
	end
	local xsize = resolution * width / inch
	local ysize = resolution * height / inch
	if xsize < image.xsize or ysize < image.ysize then
		local s = format("gm convert -strip -resize %dx%d %s %s",
		xsize, ysize, oldname, newname)
		print("Conversion: " .. s)
		os.execute(s)
	else
		print(format("Nothing to do: %s, %s, %s", oldname, newname, resolution))
		print(format("xsize = %d, ysize = %d", xsize, ysize))
	end
end

local formats = {"png", "jpg", "gif"}

for _, s in ipairs(formats) do
	figures.converters[s] = figures.converters[s] or {}
	figures.converters[s]["lowres." .. s] = sample_down
end
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2019-02-15 um 07:56 schrieb Lutz Haseloff :

> Thank you all for your help.
> 
> First i tried the grph-downsample.lua script.
> Unfortunately i get an error message
> grph-downsample.lua:31: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number has no integer 
> representation)
> See attached log file.

It’s a problem due to changes in Lua between 5.2 and 5.3 (or the like).
The attached version works (for me).


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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Thank you all for your help.

First i tried the grph-downsample.lua script.
Unfortunately i get an error message
grph-downsample.lua:31: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number has no integer 
representation)
See attached log file.

Greetings Lutz

Am 14. Februar 2019 21:44:31 MEZ schrieb Hans Hagen :
>On 2/14/2019 9:32 PM, Peter Münster wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 14 2019, Lutz Haseloff wrote:
>> 
>>> I wanted to use the degrade module with recent ConTeXt and LuaTeX.
>> 
>> Hi Lutz,
>> 
>> Could you please check, if the module grph-downsample.lua could fit
>your
>> needs?
>> 
>> 
>>> The minimal example from the degrade manual gives an error.
>>> See the attached log.
>>> Is there any chance to get the module working again?
>> 
>> There is always a chance. The question is just: who will afford the
>> efforts...
>> Please check first the downsample module, and then let's see, if you
>> still need this very old and hackish degrade module.
>you can plug in code
>
>\startluacode
>
>figures.converters["png"]["lowres.png"] = 
>function(oldname,newname,resolution)
> os.execute(string.format('gm convert "%s" "%s"',oldname,newname))
>end
>
>figures.converters["jpg"]["lowres.jpg"] = 
>function(oldname,newname,resolution)
> os.execute(string.format('gm convert "%s" "%s"',oldname,newname))
>end
>
>-- figures.suffixes["lowres.png"] = figures.suffixes.png -- suffix is 
>automatically done
>
>\stopluacode
>\enabletrackers[graphics*]
>
>
>\starttext
> \externalfigure[t:/sources/mill.png][conversion=lowres.png]
> \externalfigure[t:/sources/hacker.jpg][conversion=lowres.jpg]
>\stoptext
>
>
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 14 2019, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> Take a look at section 3.2 of the workflows [1] document.
>
> [1] http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/workflows-mkiv.pdf

Sorry, I don't understand. How will the "convert" command
"convert -geometry %nx%x%ny% -compress JPEG ..." ever know, that the
target height is 10cm?

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Hans Hagen

On 2/14/2019 9:32 PM, Peter Münster wrote:

On Thu, Feb 14 2019, Lutz Haseloff wrote:


I wanted to use the degrade module with recent ConTeXt and LuaTeX.


Hi Lutz,

Could you please check, if the module grph-downsample.lua could fit your
needs?



The minimal example from the degrade manual gives an error.
See the attached log.
Is there any chance to get the module working again?


There is always a chance. The question is just: who will afford the
efforts...
Please check first the downsample module, and then let's see, if you
still need this very old and hackish degrade module.

you can plug in code

\startluacode

figures.converters["png"]["lowres.png"] = 
function(oldname,newname,resolution)

os.execute(string.format('gm convert "%s" "%s"',oldname,newname))
end

figures.converters["jpg"]["lowres.jpg"] = 
function(oldname,newname,resolution)

os.execute(string.format('gm convert "%s" "%s"',oldname,newname))
end

-- figures.suffixes["lowres.png"] = figures.suffixes.png -- suffix is 
automatically done


\stopluacode
\enabletrackers[graphics*]


\starttext
\externalfigure[t:/sources/mill.png][conversion=lowres.png]
\externalfigure[t:/sources/hacker.jpg][conversion=lowres.jpg]
\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Wolfgang Schuster

Peter Münster schrieb am 14.02.19 um 21:32:

On Thu, Feb 14 2019, Lutz Haseloff wrote:


I wanted to use the degrade module with recent ConTeXt and LuaTeX.

Hi Lutz,

Could you please check, if the module grph-downsample.lua could fit your
needs?


Take a look at section 3.2 of the workflows [1] document.

[1] http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/workflows-mkiv.pdf

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 14 2019, Marco Patzer wrote:

> Apparently it's not on the wiki

It's here:
https://modules.contextgarden.net/dl/grph-downsample.lua-1.001.zip

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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Feb 14 2019, Lutz Haseloff wrote:

> I wanted to use the degrade module with recent ConTeXt and LuaTeX.

Hi Lutz,

Could you please check, if the module grph-downsample.lua could fit your
needs?


> The minimal example from the degrade manual gives an error.
> See the attached log.
> Is there any chance to get the module working again?

There is always a chance. The question is just: who will afford the
efforts...
Please check first the downsample module, and then let's see, if you
still need this very old and hackish degrade module.

Cheers,
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Re: [NTG-context] degrade module

2019-02-14 Thread Marco Patzer
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 20:49:43 +0100
Lutz Haseloff  wrote:

> I wanted to use the degrade module with recent ConTeXt and LuaTeX.
> The minimal example from the degrade manual gives an error.
> See the attached log.
> Is there any chance to get the module working again?

I never used the degrade module. Instead I use the downsample.lua
script which works fine with a current beta. Maybe give it a try.

Apparently it's not on the wiki and if I remember correctly I got it
off the mailing list. Let me know if you can't find it.

Marco
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