Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-17 Thread Jan Heinen

Hello,

someone, who understood what I want to achieve?

http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg

Or more questions?

Regards
Janis


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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page 
singlesided


Jan Heinen
Mon, 16 Apr 2012 04:29:20 -0700

Hello,

some were guessing, what I want to achieve.

I made a screenshot for you:

http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg


It ist the online-version of a printed book. For printing it 
was ok to have one bookpage on one sheet of paper. For the 
online-version I want to have two bookpages on one sheet of 
paper


but the coverpage should be alone on one sheet of paper.

The online-version is a PDF ... no html.

sheet of paper is of course only virtualy meant ... it is 
online


The difficulty is that there a bunch of (hyperlinked) 
cross-references in the book ... so people can use the pdf 
interactively.


Without this I could put the pages manualy together.

Hope that now you know what I want to do.
And I am hoping very much for a solution ...

Regards
Jannis

Regards
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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 04/16/2012 12:17 AM, Jan Heinen wrote:

I was lucky to get a fast answer - but with your code I don't get the
right result:

  -- start your code

\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode
\starttext
First page
\startmode[booklet]
\null \page
\stopmode
etc.
\stoptext

Thomas

  -- stop

With your code I get:

1 2  first page of the pdf
3 4  second
5 6  third
7 8  fourth



But I want to get:

1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
2 3  second
4 5  third
6 7  fourth
8 fifth (coverpage)


I know how to use with modes - but the answer must be an other.


No, I get the result you want with my code.

\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode

\starttext

One

\page

\startmode[booklet]

\null \page

\stopmode

Two

\page

Three

\page

Four

\page

Five

\page

Six

\page

Seven

\page

Eight

\stoptext

You should make an example yourself, I'm still guessing what it is you 
want to achieve. I'm not sure what a pdf-version for the internet is - 
pdf is not a web-based format?


Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-16 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

You should make an example yourself, I'm still guessing what it is you want 
to achieve. I'm not sure what a pdf-version for the internet is - pdf is 
not a web-based format?


My guess is that that OP wants to display the pdf the same way Acrobat 
reader displays a pdf in double-sided document in two up mode. For 
example, open any of the ConTeXt This Way magazines in two-up mode.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 04/16/2012 08:48 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:



You should make an example yourself, I'm still guessing what it is you
want to achieve. I'm not sure what a pdf-version for the internet is
- pdf is not a web-based format?


My guess is that that OP wants to display the pdf the same way Acrobat
reader displays a pdf in double-sided document in two up mode. For
example, open any of the ConTeXt This Way magazines in two-up mode.


Ah OK, I see what you mean. But isn't that dependent on which pdf viewer 
you use to view the file? Even more so when you view it from within a 
browser which may or may not have a plugin for displaying pdf?


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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-16 Thread Jan Heinen

Hello,

some were guessing, what I want to achieve.

I made a screenshot for you:

http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg


It ist the online-version of a printed book. For printing it 
was ok to have one bookpage on one sheet of paper.
For the online-version I want to have two bookpages on one 
sheet of paper

but the coverpage should be alone on one sheet of paper.

The online-version is a PDF ... no html.
sheet of paper is of course only virtualy meant ... it is 
online


The difficulty is that there a bunch of (hyperlinked) 
cross-references in the book ... so people can use the pdf 
interactively.

Without this I could put the pages manualy together.

Hope that now you know what I want to do.
And I am hoping very much for a solution ...

Regards
Jannis
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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-15 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz

On 04/15/2012 10:01 AM, Jan Heinen wrote:

Hello, someone here on a sunday?

I want to have a PDF-screen-version of my booklet:
The book has 8 pages including the coverpages.

The result should look like this: (first and last page NOT doublesided)

1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
2 3  second
4 5  third
6 7  fourth
8 fifth (coverpage)


With the following commands I get the wrong result:

\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]% A5 wird auf A4 gedruckt
\setuparranging[2SIDE]

1 2  first page of the pdf
3 4  second
5 6  third
7 8  fourth


Have a nice weekend
Jannis


Willi is the resident imposition expert, but in his absence: I don't 
think this is a standard imposition scheme, hence ConTeXt doesn't have 
any predefined setup for it (I'm not quite sure I understand what it is 
you're trying to accomplish). So I think you will have to add the 
desired empty page manually.


On a wild guess: if you want different versions for print and for 
screen, you can use modes (that's what I do for some of my stuff). in 
pseudo-code:


\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode

\starttext

First page

\startmode[booklet]
\null \page
\stopmode

etc.

\stoptext

When you run with

context --mode=booklet --arrange

you'll get the desired booklet; otherwise you get a normal pdf.

Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-15 Thread Jan Heinen
I was lucky to get a fast answer - but with your code I 
don't get the right result:


 -- start your code

\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode
\starttext
First page
\startmode[booklet]
\null \page
\stopmode
etc.
\stoptext

Thomas

 -- stop

With your code I get:

1 2  first page of the pdf
3 4  second
5 6  third
7 8  fourth



But I want to get:

1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
2 3  second
4 5  third
6 7  fourth
8 fifth (coverpage)


I know how to use with modes - but the answer must be an other.

Maybe I have to explain it more clearly:

on the first PDF-Page (A5) there should be only the 
cover-page (page 1)

\setuppapersize[A5][A5]

 \setuparranging[1SIDE]%- I don't know how to write it - nothing was 
working


On the second PDF-Page there should be page 2 and page 3
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]

 \setuparranging[2SIDE]


It must be a problem lot's of people have when they make a 
book with ConTeXt

and want to make a second PDF-version for the Internet.


Regards
Jannis
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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, Jan Heinen wrote:

I was lucky to get a fast answer - but with your code I don't get the right 
result:


-- start your code

\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode
\starttext
First page
\startmode[booklet]
\null \page
\stopmode
etc.
\stoptext

Thomas

-- stop

With your code I get:

1 2  first page of the pdf
3 4  second
5 6  third
7 8  fourth



But I want to get:

1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
2 3  second
4 5  third
6 7  fourth
8 fifth (coverpage)


I know how to use with modes - but the answer must be an other.

Maybe I have to explain it more clearly:

on the first PDF-Page (A5) there should be only the cover-page (page 1)
   \setuppapersize[A5][A5]

\setuparranging[1SIDE]%- I don't know how to write it - nothing was 
working



On the second PDF-Page there should be page 2 and page 3
   \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]

\setuparranging[2SIDE]


It must be a problem lot's of people have when they make a book with ConTeXt
and want to make a second PDF-version for the Internet.


If you don't mind creating another file to convert a given double sided 
pdf into the above format, you can use the following (pseudo code, 
untested, and might have typos)


get number of pages in the pdf
   \getfiguredimensions[filename]
   \edef\NOfPages{\noffigurepages}

insert the first page
   \startTEXpage[height=(A5 height}, width=(A5 width)]
   \externalfigure[filename][page=1]
   \stopTEXpage

loop and insert all but the last page (you may have to test if the number 
of pages are odd or even and use \numexpr(\NOfPages - 1) to find the last 
but one page:


\dostepwiserecurse{2}{2}{\LastButOnePage}
 { \startTEXpage[height=(A5 height), width=(A4 height)]
   \expanded{\externalfigure[filename][page=\recurselevel]}%
   \expanded{\externalfigure[filename][page=\numexpr\recurselevel+1\relax]}%
   \stopTEXpage
 }

If the number of pages is even, insert last page.


Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided

2012-04-15 Thread Aditya Mahajan

On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

If you don't mind creating another file to convert a given double sided pdf 
into the above format, you can use the following (pseudo code, untested, and 
might have typos)


You can also create a mtx-context-doublesided.lua script that takes the 
filename from command line and does all the processing at the lua level.


See mtx-context-*.lua in $TEXMF/tex/context/base/ for examples.

Aditya
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