[nysbirds-l] Great Black-backed Gull in Lake George
I was just wondering if anyone knows how unusual it is to have Great Black-backed Gulls on Lake George. I had one on a boat docked by Shepard Park this past weekend and just thought it a little unusual for one to be so far away from the coast. I have never seen one I don't think away from coastal NY. Andrew Andrew v. F. Block Consulting Naturalist 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4629 www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Great Black-backed Gull in Lake George
I was just wondering if anyone knows how unusual it is to have Great Black-backed Gulls on Lake George. I had one on a boat docked by Shepard Park this past weekend and just thought it a little unusual for one to be so far away from the coast. I have never seen one I don't think away from coastal NY. Andrew Andrew v. F. Block Consulting Naturalist 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 Yonkers, Westchester Co., New York 10705-4629 www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[nysbirds-l] Miriam Levine, 1923-2019
Hi everyone, We just learned that the service for Mickey will be tomorrow at 11:00, at 175 North Long Beach Road, Rockville Centre. I know that this is very late notice, but we wanted to let people know. Shai Mitra Bay Shore From: Shaibal Mitra Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 7:25 PM To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: Miriam Levine, 1923-2019 Dear New York Birders, We learned today that Miriam Levine passed away yesterday, peacefully at home. For more than 70 years, Mickey was an sharp observer of birders, scoring their strengths and flaws with an inimitable wit. Her husband Manny forged a prominent role in the New York birding community, starting young before World War II, then taking an active role in Long Island birding after his return from service and during the post-war blossoming of birding culture. Generations of birders have known Mickey. An accomplished sculptress, she fashioned many memorable pieces in many media. Her bronze Kingbird sculptures have for decades been a ceremonial means of honoring the presidents of the Federation of New York State Bird Clubs and the New York State Ornithological Association. Her incisive sociological observations, covering more than a half century of meetings of the Linnaean Society of New York, and the inception of world birding, could fill volumes. Often related to the Baldwin team during afternoon breaks from the Southern Nassau County CBC for cocktails at the Levine home, her stories surely helped to shape our views of the world. We celebrated Mickey's 96th birthday with her just last week, at that home, with her aide Anna and longtime friend Joan Quinlan. We are saddened at losing her; there are so many things we will never learn, or never again be coaxed into remembering--dependent now forever on our own fragile memories. Her life was a great one, and she shared so much with so many of us. Shai Mitra & Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE:[nysbirds-l] Miriam Levine, 1923-2019
Hi everyone, We just learned that the service for Mickey will be tomorrow at 11:00, at 175 North Long Beach Road, Rockville Centre. I know that this is very late notice, but we wanted to let people know. Shai Mitra Bay Shore From: Shaibal Mitra Sent: Monday, August 26, 2019 7:25 PM To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: Miriam Levine, 1923-2019 Dear New York Birders, We learned today that Miriam Levine passed away yesterday, peacefully at home. For more than 70 years, Mickey was an sharp observer of birders, scoring their strengths and flaws with an inimitable wit. Her husband Manny forged a prominent role in the New York birding community, starting young before World War II, then taking an active role in Long Island birding after his return from service and during the post-war blossoming of birding culture. Generations of birders have known Mickey. An accomplished sculptress, she fashioned many memorable pieces in many media. Her bronze Kingbird sculptures have for decades been a ceremonial means of honoring the presidents of the Federation of New York State Bird Clubs and the New York State Ornithological Association. Her incisive sociological observations, covering more than a half century of meetings of the Linnaean Society of New York, and the inception of world birding, could fill volumes. Often related to the Baldwin team during afternoon breaks from the Southern Nassau County CBC for cocktails at the Levine home, her stories surely helped to shape our views of the world. We celebrated Mickey's 96th birthday with her just last week, at that home, with her aide Anna and longtime friend Joan Quinlan. We are saddened at losing her; there are so many things we will never learn, or never again be coaxed into remembering--dependent now forever on our own fragile memories. Her life was a great one, and she shared so much with so many of us. Shai Mitra & Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
It probably won’t apply in this case, but in general east of the eye is usually best- or along the ‘normal’ eastern seaboard, that would be north of the eye. Mike Cooper Ridge, LI Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Peter Post wrote: > > Experience has shown that most hurricane blown birds immediately return > out-to-sea. You have to get out there during the storm or as soon as possible > afterward. > > >> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:44 PM, Purbita Saha wrote: >> >> Thank you Shai and Peter for these insights. What day do you recommend going >> out then to see what this devastating event dredges up? Saturday morning? >> (Sorry if you already mentioned). >> >> Cheers, >> Purbita Saha >> >>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:07 AM Shaibal Mitra >>> wrote: >>> Dear Peter, >>> >>> It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past >>> storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly >>> affects our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to >>> show people with less experience the birding potential of storms, like >>> David, Fran, and Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose >>> less of a direct weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, >>> which after seemingly immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, >>> made landfall so far south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I >>> vividly recall driving over the bridges to the beach in the morning and >>> seeing Great South Bay's glassy, mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I >>> exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate expressions as well. Even so, we had >>> great birds that morning. Storms like dorian that churn past to the south >>> cause much more trouble and produce far fewer rarities for us than do >>> storms like David. >>> >>> Shai Mitra >>> Bay Shore >>> >>> From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM >>> To: Shaibal Mitra >>> Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) >>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian >>> >>> All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or I >>> should say lack of access! >>> >>> I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert >>> Mosses SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by >>> with an occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 >>> Bridled. Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! >>> >>> On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open >>> in the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a >>> house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The >>> authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 >>> Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where >>> a Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where >>> I had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. >>> >>> During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the >>> morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the >>> park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or >>> tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn >>> and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who >>> ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, >>> and who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at >>> Riverside Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by >>> Ardith Bondi. I added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's >>> Storm-Petrels, Royal Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County >>> list. Ardith had a large dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, >>> because there was a Black Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was >>> written up in the Linnaean Newsletter). The following year, during >>> hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get near the Hudson River. They authorities >>> threatened us with arrest if we didn't leave. We had to hide as best we >>> could. But before being kicked out I added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter >>> to my NY Co., list. >>> >>> If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. >>> During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress >>> blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried >>> going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up >>> spending the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been >>> setup as a shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley >>> managed to make it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. >>> >>> Peter Post >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: >>>
Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
It probably won’t apply in this case, but in general east of the eye is usually best- or along the ‘normal’ eastern seaboard, that would be north of the eye. Mike Cooper Ridge, LI Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:54 PM, Peter Post wrote: > > Experience has shown that most hurricane blown birds immediately return > out-to-sea. You have to get out there during the storm or as soon as possible > afterward. > > >> On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:44 PM, Purbita Saha wrote: >> >> Thank you Shai and Peter for these insights. What day do you recommend going >> out then to see what this devastating event dredges up? Saturday morning? >> (Sorry if you already mentioned). >> >> Cheers, >> Purbita Saha >> >>> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:07 AM Shaibal Mitra >>> wrote: >>> Dear Peter, >>> >>> It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past >>> storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly >>> affects our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to >>> show people with less experience the birding potential of storms, like >>> David, Fran, and Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose >>> less of a direct weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, >>> which after seemingly immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, >>> made landfall so far south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I >>> vividly recall driving over the bridges to the beach in the morning and >>> seeing Great South Bay's glassy, mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I >>> exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate expressions as well. Even so, we had >>> great birds that morning. Storms like dorian that churn past to the south >>> cause much more trouble and produce far fewer rarities for us than do >>> storms like David. >>> >>> Shai Mitra >>> Bay Shore >>> >>> From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM >>> To: Shaibal Mitra >>> Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) >>> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian >>> >>> All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or I >>> should say lack of access! >>> >>> I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert >>> Mosses SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by >>> with an occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 >>> Bridled. Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! >>> >>> On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open >>> in the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a >>> house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The >>> authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 >>> Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where >>> a Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where >>> I had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. >>> >>> During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the >>> morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the >>> park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or >>> tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn >>> and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who >>> ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, >>> and who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at >>> Riverside Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by >>> Ardith Bondi. I added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's >>> Storm-Petrels, Royal Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County >>> list. Ardith had a large dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, >>> because there was a Black Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was >>> written up in the Linnaean Newsletter). The following year, during >>> hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get near the Hudson River. They authorities >>> threatened us with arrest if we didn't leave. We had to hide as best we >>> could. But before being kicked out I added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter >>> to my NY Co., list. >>> >>> If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. >>> During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress >>> blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried >>> going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up >>> spending the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been >>> setup as a shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley >>> managed to make it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. >>> >>> Peter Post >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: >>>
Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
Experience has shown that most hurricane blown birds immediately return out-to-sea. You have to get out there during the storm or as soon as possible afterward. On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:44 PM, Purbita Saha wrote: > Thank you Shai and Peter for these insights. What day do you recommend going > out then to see what this devastating event dredges up? Saturday morning? > (Sorry if you already mentioned). > > Cheers, > Purbita Saha > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:07 AM Shaibal Mitra > wrote: > Dear Peter, > > It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past > storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly affects > our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to show people > with less experience the birding potential of storms, like David, Fran, and > Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose less of a direct > weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, which after seemingly > immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, made landfall so far > south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I vividly recall driving over > the bridges to the beach in the morning and seeing Great South Bay's glassy, > mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate > expressions as well. Even so, we had great birds that morning. Storms like > dorian that churn past to the south cause much more trouble and produce far > fewer rarities for us than do storms like David. > > Shai Mitra > Bay Shore > > From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM > To: Shaibal Mitra > Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian > > All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or I > should say lack of access! > > I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert Mosses > SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by with an > occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 Bridled. > Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! > > On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open in > the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a > house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The > authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 > Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where a > Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where I > had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. > > During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the > morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the > park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or > tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn > and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who > ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, and > who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at Riverside > Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by Ardith Bondi. I > added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's Storm-Petrels, Royal > Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County list. Ardith had a large > dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, because there was a Black > Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was written up in the Linnaean > Newsletter). The following year, during hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get > near the Hudson River. They authorities threatened us with arrest if we > didn't leave. We had to hide as best we could. But before being kicked out I > added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter to my NY Co., list. > > If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. > During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress > blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried > going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up spending > the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been setup as a > shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley managed to make > it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. > > Peter Post > > > > On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: > > > The earliest models for Dorian’s track indicated a likelihood that the > > storm would track almost due north and pass to the west of Long Island—or > > at least parts of Long Island. This is the scenario that is likely to > > produce tropical terns and other Gulf Stream birds onshore on Long Island. > > With many people talking about Dorian and buzzing over the potential for > > storm birds, I’ve pulled out maps and bird
Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
Experience has shown that most hurricane blown birds immediately return out-to-sea. You have to get out there during the storm or as soon as possible afterward. On Sep 4, 2019, at 4:44 PM, Purbita Saha wrote: > Thank you Shai and Peter for these insights. What day do you recommend going > out then to see what this devastating event dredges up? Saturday morning? > (Sorry if you already mentioned). > > Cheers, > Purbita Saha > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:07 AM Shaibal Mitra > wrote: > Dear Peter, > > It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past > storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly affects > our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to show people > with less experience the birding potential of storms, like David, Fran, and > Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose less of a direct > weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, which after seemingly > immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, made landfall so far > south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I vividly recall driving over > the bridges to the beach in the morning and seeing Great South Bay's glassy, > mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate > expressions as well. Even so, we had great birds that morning. Storms like > dorian that churn past to the south cause much more trouble and produce far > fewer rarities for us than do storms like David. > > Shai Mitra > Bay Shore > > From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM > To: Shaibal Mitra > Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian > > All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or I > should say lack of access! > > I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert Mosses > SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by with an > occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 Bridled. > Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! > > On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open in > the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a > house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The > authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 > Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where a > Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where I > had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. > > During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the > morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the > park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or > tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn > and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who > ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, and > who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at Riverside > Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by Ardith Bondi. I > added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's Storm-Petrels, Royal > Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County list. Ardith had a large > dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, because there was a Black > Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was written up in the Linnaean > Newsletter). The following year, during hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get > near the Hudson River. They authorities threatened us with arrest if we > didn't leave. We had to hide as best we could. But before being kicked out I > added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter to my NY Co., list. > > If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. > During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress > blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried > going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up spending > the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been setup as a > shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley managed to make > it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. > > Peter Post > > > > On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: > > > The earliest models for Dorian’s track indicated a likelihood that the > > storm would track almost due north and pass to the west of Long Island—or > > at least parts of Long Island. This is the scenario that is likely to > > produce tropical terns and other Gulf Stream birds onshore on Long Island. > > With many people talking about Dorian and buzzing over the potential for > > storm birds, I’ve pulled out maps and bird
Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
Thank you Shai and Peter for these insights. What day do you recommend going out then to see what this devastating event dredges up? Saturday morning? (Sorry if you already mentioned). Cheers, Purbita Saha On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:07 AM Shaibal Mitra wrote: > Dear Peter, > > It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past > storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly > affects our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to > show people with less experience the birding potential of storms, like > David, Fran, and Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose > less of a direct weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, > which after seemingly immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, > made landfall so far south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I > vividly recall driving over the bridges to the beach in the morning and > seeing Great South Bay's glassy, mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I > exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate expressions as well. Even so, we had > great birds that morning. Storms like dorian that churn past to the south > cause much more trouble and produce far fewer rarities for us than do > storms like David. > > Shai Mitra > Bay Shore > > From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM > To: Shaibal Mitra > Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian > > All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or > I should say lack of access! > > I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert > Mosses SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by > with an occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 > Bridled. Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! > > On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open > in the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a > house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The > authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 > Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where > a Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where > I had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. > > During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the > morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the > park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or > tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn > and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who > ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, > and who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at > Riverside Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by > Ardith Bondi. I added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's > Storm-Petrels, Royal Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County > list. Ardith had a large dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, > because there was a Black Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was > written up in the Linnaean Newsletter). The following year, during > hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get near the Hudson River. They authorities > threatened us with arrest if we didn't leave. We had to hide as best we > could. But before being kicked out I added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter > to my NY Co., list. > > If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. > During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress > blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried > going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up > spending the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been > setup as a shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley > managed to make it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. > > Peter Post > > > > On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: > > > The earliest models for Dorian’s track indicated a likelihood that the > storm would track almost due north and pass to the west of Long Island—or > at least parts of Long Island. This is the scenario that is likely to > produce tropical terns and other Gulf Stream birds onshore on Long Island. > With many people talking about Dorian and buzzing over the potential for > storm birds, I’ve pulled out maps and bird data for several storms that > passed west of or across Long Island near this date: David (1979), Fran > (1996), Floyd (1999), Ernesto (2006), and Irene (2011)—all of these were > productive for storm birds. > > > > For better or worse, at this point, it appears that Dorian will almost > certainly
Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
Thank you Shai and Peter for these insights. What day do you recommend going out then to see what this devastating event dredges up? Saturday morning? (Sorry if you already mentioned). Cheers, Purbita Saha On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 5:07 AM Shaibal Mitra wrote: > Dear Peter, > > It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past > storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly > affects our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to > show people with less experience the birding potential of storms, like > David, Fran, and Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose > less of a direct weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, > which after seemingly immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, > made landfall so far south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I > vividly recall driving over the bridges to the beach in the morning and > seeing Great South Bay's glassy, mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I > exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate expressions as well. Even so, we had > great birds that morning. Storms like dorian that churn past to the south > cause much more trouble and produce far fewer rarities for us than do > storms like David. > > Shai Mitra > Bay Shore > > From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM > To: Shaibal Mitra > Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian > > All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or > I should say lack of access! > > I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert > Mosses SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by > with an occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 > Bridled. Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! > > On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open > in the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a > house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The > authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 > Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where > a Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where > I had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. > > During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the > morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the > park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or > tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn > and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who > ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, > and who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at > Riverside Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by > Ardith Bondi. I added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's > Storm-Petrels, Royal Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County > list. Ardith had a large dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, > because there was a Black Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was > written up in the Linnaean Newsletter). The following year, during > hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get near the Hudson River. They authorities > threatened us with arrest if we didn't leave. We had to hide as best we > could. But before being kicked out I added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter > to my NY Co., list. > > If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. > During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress > blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried > going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up > spending the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been > setup as a shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley > managed to make it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. > > Peter Post > > > > On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: > > > The earliest models for Dorian’s track indicated a likelihood that the > storm would track almost due north and pass to the west of Long Island—or > at least parts of Long Island. This is the scenario that is likely to > produce tropical terns and other Gulf Stream birds onshore on Long Island. > With many people talking about Dorian and buzzing over the potential for > storm birds, I’ve pulled out maps and bird data for several storms that > passed west of or across Long Island near this date: David (1979), Fran > (1996), Floyd (1999), Ernesto (2006), and Irene (2011)—all of these were > productive for storm birds. > > > > For better or worse, at this point, it appears that Dorian will almost > certainly
[nysbirds-l] Sixth Annual Seatuck Long Island Birding Challenge
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[nysbirds-l] Sixth Annual Seatuck Long Island Birding Challenge
The sixth annual Long Island Birding Challenge, sponsored by the Seatuck Environmental Association, will be held on Saturday September 28th. Sign up now for an exciting day in the field, followed by a lively dinner at the historic Scully mansion. For more information and to register, please visit the website at: https://www.seatuck.org/index.php/seatuck-birding-challenge Hope to see you there! -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
Dear Peter, It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly affects our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to show people with less experience the birding potential of storms, like David, Fran, and Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose less of a direct weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, which after seemingly immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, made landfall so far south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I vividly recall driving over the bridges to the beach in the morning and seeing Great South Bay's glassy, mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate expressions as well. Even so, we had great birds that morning. Storms like dorian that churn past to the south cause much more trouble and produce far fewer rarities for us than do storms like David. Shai Mitra Bay Shore From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM To: Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or I should say lack of access! I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert Mosses SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by with an occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 Bridled. Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open in the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where a Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where I had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, and who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at Riverside Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by Ardith Bondi. I added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's Storm-Petrels, Royal Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County list. Ardith had a large dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, because there was a Black Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was written up in the Linnaean Newsletter). The following year, during hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get near the Hudson River. They authorities threatened us with arrest if we didn't leave. We had to hide as best we could. But before being kicked out I added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter to my NY Co., list. If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up spending the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been setup as a shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley managed to make it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. Peter Post On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: > The earliest models for Dorian’s track indicated a likelihood that the storm > would track almost due north and pass to the west of Long Island—or at least > parts of Long Island. This is the scenario that is likely to produce tropical > terns and other Gulf Stream birds onshore on Long Island. With many people > talking about Dorian and buzzing over the potential for storm birds, I’ve > pulled out maps and bird data for several storms that passed west of or > across Long Island near this date: David (1979), Fran (1996), Floyd (1999), > Ernesto (2006), and Irene (2011)—all of these were productive for storm birds. > > For better or worse, at this point, it appears that Dorian will almost > certainly whip out to sea to the south and east of us, as so many tropical > systems do. Storms of this sort often interrupt the trans-oceanic migrations > of species that would otherwise pass over us (various shorebirds, jaegers, > Black Tern, etc.), but they do not bring tropical terns, etc. > > (Note: my obvious desire to see storm birds has NO influence on
RE: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian
Dear Peter, It's amazing to hear these first-hand accounts of your experiences in past storms! And yes, access could be an issue for any storm that directly affects our area. But a major reason why I posted these summaries was to show people with less experience the birding potential of storms, like David, Fran, and Ernesto, that pass inland well to the west of us and pose less of a direct weather challenge to us. I particularly recall Ernesto, which after seemingly immense hype regarding direct threats to Long Island, made landfall so far south and west that birders mainly ignored him. I vividly recall driving over the bridges to the beach in the morning and seeing Great South Bay's glassy, mirror-like surface--"it's a mill pond!" I exclaimed to Pat, using indelicate expressions as well. Even so, we had great birds that morning. Storms like dorian that churn past to the south cause much more trouble and produce far fewer rarities for us than do storms like David. Shai Mitra Bay Shore From: Peter Post [pwp...@nyc.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2019 12:39 AM To: Shaibal Mitra Cc: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Hurricane Dorian All well and good, but the problem nowadays is access, access, access! Or I should say lack of access! I spent most of the Sept. 7th, 1979, during hurricane David, at Robert Mosses SP. Every 10 or 15 minutes a small flock of Sooty Terns would fly by with an occasional Bridled. By the end of the day I totaled 90 Sooty and 3 Bridled. Nowadays that beach is closed during hurricanes! On Sept. 27, 1985, during hurricane Gloria, the Jones Beach strip was open in the morning but closed in the afternoon unless you could prove you had a house on the strip. And it's been closed during hurricanes ever since. The authorities I am told are afraid of looting. As a result I missed the 3,000 Cape May warblers that day, but I was able to get out to Pt. Lookout where a Northern Phalarope was spinning in a puddle in the parking lot. And where I had my first intermedius Lesser Black-backed Gull for NY. During hurricane Irene, August, 27, 2011, I went to Central Park in the morning hoping to see some storm blown birds. I ignored the signs that the park was closed. The City is afraid that they will be sued if a branch or tree hits or kills someone. There was nothing of interest on the Great Lawn and the reservoir was covered in thick flog. I passed several police who ignored me but I ran into the parks Director of Operations, whom I knew, and who tried to evict me. Later that afternoon I tried my luck at Riverside Park, where I ran into Dale Dancis and was later joined by Ardith Bondi. I added both Sooty and Bridled Terns, Wilson's and Leach's Storm-Petrels, Royal Tern, and White-tailed Tropicbird to my NY County list. Ardith had a large dark swift which I couldn't get on. Unfortunate, because there was a Black Swift seen at Cape May that day! (All of this was written up in the Linnaean Newsletter). The following year, during hurricane Sandy, one couldn't get near the Hudson River. They authorities threatened us with arrest if we didn't leave. We had to hide as best we could. But before being kicked out I added Oystercatcher and Black Scoter to my NY Co., list. If it isn't the closing of areas it's the downing of trees/power lines. During one hurricane years ago I got as far as Bridgehampton. Downed tress blocked my way from going any further east or to the beaches. When I tried going back home a recently downed tree blocked my return. I wound up spending the afternoon in the Bridgehampton High School which had been setup as a shelter. Free coffee and donuts.Tony Lauro and Paul Buckley managed to make it to Montauk Pt., but had to use a chainsaw to get there. Peter Post On Sep 3, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Shaibal Mitra wrote: > The earliest models for Dorian’s track indicated a likelihood that the storm > would track almost due north and pass to the west of Long Island—or at least > parts of Long Island. This is the scenario that is likely to produce tropical > terns and other Gulf Stream birds onshore on Long Island. With many people > talking about Dorian and buzzing over the potential for storm birds, I’ve > pulled out maps and bird data for several storms that passed west of or > across Long Island near this date: David (1979), Fran (1996), Floyd (1999), > Ernesto (2006), and Irene (2011)—all of these were productive for storm birds. > > For better or worse, at this point, it appears that Dorian will almost > certainly whip out to sea to the south and east of us, as so many tropical > systems do. Storms of this sort often interrupt the trans-oceanic migrations > of species that would otherwise pass over us (various shorebirds, jaegers, > Black Tern, etc.), but they do not bring tropical terns, etc. > > (Note: my obvious desire to see storm birds has NO influence on
