Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

2015-03-25 Thread Brian Campbell
Tony, thanks as always for your thoughtful, well reasoned, and helpful
comments.

I'm well aware of the potential for confusion, which is why I endeavored to
address the differences between aud and dst with text in the draft.

I do appreciate your permission to use it ourselves and I'll be sure to let
the engineers that have already deployed it know that they have your
blessing.

As I said on Monday, it struck me as something that would have value well
beyond our own usage and that was why I wanted to start a conversation
about standardization. You're stance on that has been made pretty clear,
thanks.



On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Anthony Nadalin 
wrote:

>  There some folks out there that are using AUD to mean DST. Adding DST is
> confusing, if you want to use it that's fine but don't see a need to
> standardize every claim that someone comes up with
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
>  --
> From: Brian Campbell 
> Sent: ‎3/‎25/‎2015 2:19 PM
> To: Mike Jones 
> Cc: oauth 
> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim
>
>  FWIW, I did have that as an open issue in the draft:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00#appendix-A
>
> Though the way I worded it probably shows my bias.
>
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Mike Jones 
> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks for posting this, Brian.  To get it down on the list, I’ll
>> repeat my comment made in person that just as “aud” used to be
>> single-valued and ended up being multi-valued, I suspect some applications
>> would require the same thing of “dst” – at least when “aud” and “dst” are
>> different.  And even if “dst” becomes multi-valued, it’s OK for particular
>> applications to require that it be single-valued in their usage.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian
>> Campbell
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:08 PM
>> *To:* oauth
>> *Subject:* [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are the slides that I rushed though at the end of the Dallas meeting:
>>
>> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-oauth-1.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> And the -00 draft:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00
>>
>> In an informal discussion earlier this week John B. suggested that some
>> additional thinking and/or clarification is needed with regard to what
>> parts of the URI to include and check. Particularly with respect to query
>> and fragment. And he's probably right.
>>
>
>
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Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

2015-03-25 Thread Anthony Nadalin
There some folks out there that are using AUD to mean DST. Adding DST is 
confusing, if you want to use it that's fine but don't see a need to 
standardize every claim that someone comes up with

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Brian Campbell<mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com>
Sent: ‎3/‎25/‎2015 2:19 PM
To: Mike Jones<mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com>
Cc: oauth<mailto:oauth@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

FWIW, I did have that as an open issue in the draft: 
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00#appendix-A

Though the way I worded it probably shows my bias.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Mike Jones 
mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
Thanks for posting this, Brian.  To get it down on the list, I’ll repeat my 
comment made in person that just as “aud” used to be single-valued and ended up 
being multi-valued, I suspect some applications would require the same thing of 
“dst” – at least when “aud” and “dst” are different.  And even if “dst” becomes 
multi-valued, it’s OK for particular applications to require that it be 
single-valued in their usage.

-- Mike

From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org>] On 
Behalf Of Brian Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:08 PM
To: oauth
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

Here are the slides that I rushed though at the end of the Dallas meeting:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-oauth-1.pdf

And the -00 draft:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00
In an informal discussion earlier this week John B. suggested that some 
additional thinking and/or clarification is needed with regard to what parts of 
the URI to include and check. Particularly with respect to query and fragment. 
And he's probably right.

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Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

2015-03-25 Thread Brian Campbell
FWIW, I did have that as an open issue in the draft:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00#appendix-A

Though the way I worded it probably shows my bias.

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Mike Jones 
wrote:

>  Thanks for posting this, Brian.  To get it down on the list, I’ll repeat
> my comment made in person that just as “aud” used to be single-valued and
> ended up being multi-valued, I suspect some applications would require the
> same thing of “dst” – at least when “aud” and “dst” are different.  And
> even if “dst” becomes multi-valued, it’s OK for particular applications to
> require that it be single-valued in their usage.
>
>
>
> -- Mike
>
>
>
> *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian
> Campbell
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:08 PM
> *To:* oauth
> *Subject:* [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim
>
>
>
> Here are the slides that I rushed though at the end of the Dallas meeting:
>
> https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-oauth-1.pdf
>
>
>
> And the -00 draft:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00
>
> In an informal discussion earlier this week John B. suggested that some
> additional thinking and/or clarification is needed with regard to what
> parts of the URI to include and check. Particularly with respect to query
> and fragment. And he's probably right.
>
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Re: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

2015-03-25 Thread Mike Jones
Thanks for posting this, Brian.  To get it down on the list, I’ll repeat my 
comment made in person that just as “aud” used to be single-valued and ended up 
being multi-valued, I suspect some applications would require the same thing of 
“dst” – at least when “aud” and “dst” are different.  And even if “dst” becomes 
multi-valued, it’s OK for particular applications to require that it be 
single-valued in their usage.

-- Mike

From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:08 PM
To: oauth
Subject: [OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

Here are the slides that I rushed though at the end of the Dallas meeting:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-oauth-1.pdf

And the -00 draft:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00
In an informal discussion earlier this week John B. suggested that some 
additional thinking and/or clarification is needed with regard to what parts of 
the URI to include and check. Particularly with respect to query and fragment. 
And he's probably right.
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[OAUTH-WG] JWT Destination Claim

2015-03-25 Thread Brian Campbell
Here are the slides that I rushed though at the end of the Dallas meeting:
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/slides/slides-92-oauth-1.pdf

And the -00 draft:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-campbell-oauth-dst4jwt-00

In an informal discussion earlier this week John B. suggested that some
additional thinking and/or clarification is needed with regard to what
parts of the URI to include and check. Particularly with respect to query
and fragment. And he's probably right.
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