Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-23 Terurut Topik Huan Sheng
Kalo BEI seperti hari ini, gimana ya yg short ?
Yg pakai margin mungkin mau balas dendam sama yg ngeshort.

I die, you die too



  - Original Message - 
  From: Elaine Sui 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 10:11 PM
  Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia





  .. coz I've warned you.

  Elaine



  On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa 
short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is a 
warning, so please listen.

Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or 
borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a 
rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading, 
including.. you know.. that SP guy.

Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not 
ally.

Elaine


2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com






  Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
  Selanjutnya bagaimana? 
  Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN? 

  Hi hi hi hi .








  

Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-22 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*.. coz I've warned you.

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
 short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
 a warning, so please listen.

 Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or
 borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a
 rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading,
 including.. you know.. that SP guy.

 Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not
 ally.

 Elaine**
 *
 2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com




 Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
 Selanjutnya bagaimana?
 Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?

 Hi hi hi hi .


 





Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-22 Terurut Topik Ferry Wachjudi
Have you received the report? and how did you know it?

Thanks  Rgds,
Ferry W.

http://budidaya-jamur-tiram.blogspot.com/
  - Original Message - 
  From: Elaine Sui 
  To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 8:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia





  .. coz I've warned you.

  Elaine



  On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa 
short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is a 
warning, so please listen.

Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or 
borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a 
rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading, 
including.. you know.. that SP guy.

Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not 
ally.

Elaine


2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com






  Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
  Selanjutnya bagaimana? 
  Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN? 

  Hi hi hi hi .








  

Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-22 Terurut Topik siangmalamphoto
Elaine nice to see you back
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!

-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:11:06 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia


*.. coz I've warned you.

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
 short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
 a warning, so please listen.

 Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or
 borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a
 rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading,
 including.. you know.. that SP guy.

 Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not
 ally.

 Elaine**
 *
 2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com




 Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
 Selanjutnya bagaimana?
 Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?

 Hi hi hi hi .


 






Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-22 Terurut Topik Lucky Trader
EL :
Since I trust you with BNBR Project, so I invested my 50% capital in this
stock.
Hopefully, as you mentioned, by end of this year, I WILL BIG SMILE.

Would you mind to share whether the project still valid considering broken
up between Golkar and PD ?

Hv a nice day [?][?]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *.. coz I've warned you.

 Elaine**
 *
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
 short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
 a warning, so please listen.

 Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or
 borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a
 rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading,
 including.. you know.. that SP guy.

 Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not
 ally.

 Elaine**
 *
 2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com




 Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
 Selanjutnya bagaimana?
 Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?

 Hi hi hi hi .




  

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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-22 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*We will have a BGGG smile in Christmas with Embah. [?][?] four digits
rally? [?]

Elaine**
*
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Lucky Trader soluckytra...@gmail.comwrote:



 EL :
 Since I trust you with BNBR Project, so I invested my 50% capital in this
 stock.
 Hopefully, as you mentioned, by end of this year, I WILL BIG SMILE.

 Would you mind to share whether the project still valid considering
 broken up between Golkar and PD ?

 Hv a nice day [?][?]


 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *.. coz I've warned you.

 Elaine**
 *
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:

 *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
 short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
 a warning, so please listen.

 Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake'
 or borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just
 a rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged
 trading, including.. you know.. that SP guy.

 Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy,
 not ally.

 Elaine**
 *
 2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com




 Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
 Selanjutnya bagaimana?
 Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?

 Hi hi hi hi .







 

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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik anru dadaq
EL, masih upside kan? ENRG n UNSP -nya?

MEDC jadi main or tunggu UNSP reach 25% in one day :)

2009/4/15 fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com



 *VIVA ELAINE...!
 *You have reached your target:
 [?]ENRG[?]
 [?]UNSP[?]


 On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *...@myself.

 Elaine*
  *
 *
 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:

 *'Clues ' are more like riddle, so no I don't give clues. I prefer to
 share investment strategy. Buy this, short this, hold this. Target x% in y
 month. Things like that. (last year I told everyone on how I work but seems
 nobody believes so whatever lah)

 If you have the access, you should invest in Iran Stock Exchange,
 overweight on alternative energy sector (read:nuclear).

 For Indonesia, 2/3Q09 is the revenge of the METALheads + coal +
 plantation. Target up to 50%, in less than 6 months (Oct09). ps: these
 sectors have been rising like 100% since Nov 08,..

 BUMI, MEDCO, EMP and Bakrie Plants. are laggards, but they eventually
 will catch up.

 Elaine*


 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anru.s...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction?
 El, please give us some clues...
 Tx b4

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 --
 *From*: fifi young
 *Date*: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

 Wow...!
 This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
 long writing...
 Seems you are so happy today...
 Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
 You already knew who's gonna win...
 'n you knew what will happen next...
 Every1 sure will always remember you...
 an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
 cool hand to execute every single details...
 You are indeed 1 of a kind...

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting
 married somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 *Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend 
 buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to
 the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone
 is happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make
 five fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but
 you get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called 
 the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get
 what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know 
 and
 fgod sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months
 then STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*







  

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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
a warning, so please listen.

Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or
borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a
rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading,
including.. you know.. that SP guy.

Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not
ally.

Elaine**
*
2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com




 Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
 Selanjutnya bagaimana?
 Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?

 Hi hi hi hi .


 



Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik troyanese
Yups. Rasanya itu belon lama lewat. 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, y_dizz y_d...@... wrote:

 Kan saya udah bilang, SYUKURI SAJA APA YANG KITA MILIKI.
 
 Invest/trading lebih baik pake uang sendiri, margin (duit pinjaman) akan 
 mempengaruhi emosi anda dalam pengambilan keputusan, and it's not good. Kalo 
 memang mau invest dengan duit gede, mending jadi hedge fund aja, kelola duit 
 orang, kita juga bisa cuan dari feenya.
 
 Believe me, sudah banyak teman2 saya terpaksa out dari market gara2 kejeblos 
 di margin.
 
 Regards,
 Yudizz
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
 
  *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
  short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
  a warning, so please listen.
  
  Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or
  borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a
  rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading,
  including.. you know.. that SP guy.
  
  Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not
  ally.
  
  Elaine**
  *
  2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdvici@
  
  
  
  
   Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
   Selanjutnya bagaimana?
   Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
  
   Hi hi hi hi .
  
  
   
  
 





Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Kan saya udah bilang, SYUKURI SAJA APA YANG KITA MILIKI.

Invest/trading lebih baik pake uang sendiri, margin (duit pinjaman) akan 
mempengaruhi emosi anda dalam pengambilan keputusan, and it's not good. Kalo 
memang mau invest dengan duit gede, mending jadi hedge fund aja, kelola duit 
orang, kita juga bisa cuan dari feenya.

Believe me, sudah banyak teman2 saya terpaksa out dari market gara2 kejeblos di 
margin.

Regards,
Yudizz


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:

 *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
 short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
 a warning, so please listen.
 
 Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or
 borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a
 rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading,
 including.. you know.. that SP guy.
 
 Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not
 ally.
 
 Elaine**
 *
 2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@...
 
 
 
 
  Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
  Selanjutnya bagaimana?
  Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
 
  Hi hi hi hi .
 
 
  
 





Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik conx_2003
people will never listen u know, if u r talking about greed... hehehe

im waiting for your 'short' so i can buy moreee

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:

 *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
 short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is
 a warning, so please listen.
 
 Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or
 borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a
 rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading,
 including.. you know.. that SP guy.
 
 Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not
 ally.
 
 Elaine**
 *
 2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@...
 
 
 
 
  Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
  Selanjutnya bagaimana?
  Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
 
  Hi hi hi hi .
 
 
  
 





Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik fifi young
*
Saya belum begitu ngerti soal margin...
apa yang dimaksud sama dengan kredit limit yang diberikan dari sekuritas?
Atau funding dalam jumlah besar/sesuai permintaan nasabah dengan bunga
tinggi?

Kalo margin call tuh apa?

Yang saya ngerti cuma kalo pake kredit limit, kalo lewat T + 3 bisa
kena force sell plus dikenain bunga.

apa ini yang disebut pake margin?

Thanks.
*
2009/4/15 y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com



 Kan saya udah bilang, SYUKURI SAJA APA YANG KITA MILIKI.

 Invest/trading lebih baik pake uang sendiri, margin (duit pinjaman) akan
 mempengaruhi emosi anda dalam pengambilan keputusan, and it's not good. Kalo
 memang mau invest dengan duit gede, mending jadi hedge fund aja, kelola duit
 orang, kita juga bisa cuan dari feenya.

 Believe me, sudah banyak teman2 saya terpaksa out dari market gara2
 kejeblos di margin.

 Regards,
 Yudizz

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:
 
  *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa

  short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this
 is
  a warning, so please listen.
 
  Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake'
 or
  borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just
 a
  rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged
 trading,
  including.. you know.. that SP guy.
 
  Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy,
 not
  ally.
 
  Elaine**
  *
  2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@...
 
  
  
  
   Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
   Selanjutnya bagaimana?
   Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
  
   Hi hi hi hi .
  
  
  
  
 

  



Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik Thomas Frederick
but HOW If may 1st, retail traders could put a short position towards the 
market...
 
would it be A SUPER BULL??




Thank You! 
 
ThomaS FredericK

--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 5:43 AM








Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa short 
until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this is a 
warning, so please listen.

Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake' or 
borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just a 
rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged trading, 
including.. you know.. that SP guy.

Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy, not ally.

Elaine


2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail. com






Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
Selanjutnya bagaimana? 
Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN? 
 
Hi hi hi hi .




















  

Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik y_dizz
Agak beda Bu Fifi. Kalo di IPOT peraturannya cukup ketat, outstanding yang 
belum dibayar sampai T+3 bakal di force sell.

Tapi ada beberapa sekuritas yang benar2 menawarkan margin, bentuknya funding 
dalam rekening yang terpisah. Nggak ada batasan T+3, kita bisa hold dalam 
jangka waktu lebih panjang, tentunya dikenai bunga. Margin call semestinya 
dilakukan kalo nilai total portofolio kita yang dijadikan jaminan turun 
melebihi ratio tertentu, misalnya 75%. Tapi banyak sekuritas yang tidak 
disiplin melakukan force sell, sehingga ujung2nya waktu crash lalu banyak 
pemain yang amblas portofolionya, bahkan sampai minus.

Kemarin2 sih agak sulit kalo kita mau apply rekening margin, nggak tau lagi 
kalo sekarang rame lagi. Yang jelas kalo mulai banyak orang yang koar2 full 
margin, saya mending cabut dari market.

Regards,
Yudizz



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, fifi young fifiyoun...@... wrote:

 *
 Saya belum begitu ngerti soal margin...
 apa yang dimaksud sama dengan kredit limit yang diberikan dari sekuritas?
 Atau funding dalam jumlah besar/sesuai permintaan nasabah dengan bunga
 tinggi?
 
 Kalo margin call tuh apa?
 
 Yang saya ngerti cuma kalo pake kredit limit, kalo lewat T + 3 bisa
 kena force sell plus dikenain bunga.
 
 apa ini yang disebut pake margin?
 
 Thanks.
 *
 2009/4/15 y_dizz y_d...@...
 
 
 
  Kan saya udah bilang, SYUKURI SAJA APA YANG KITA MILIKI.
 
  Invest/trading lebih baik pake uang sendiri, margin (duit pinjaman) akan
  mempengaruhi emosi anda dalam pengambilan keputusan, and it's not good. Kalo
  memang mau invest dengan duit gede, mending jadi hedge fund aja, kelola duit
  orang, kita juga bisa cuan dari feenya.
 
  Believe me, sudah banyak teman2 saya terpaksa out dari market gara2
  kejeblos di margin.
 
  Regards,
  Yudizz
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
  Elaine Sui elainesui83@ wrote:
  
   *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa
 
   short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this
  is
   a warning, so please listen.
  
   Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake'
  or
   borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just
  a
   rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged
  trading,
   including.. you know.. that SP guy.
  
   Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy,
  not
   ally.
  
   Elaine**
   *
   2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdvici@
  
   
   
   
Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
Selanjutnya bagaimana?
Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
   
Hi hi hi hi .
   
   
   
   
  
 
   
 





Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik Kim Chi
Margin call artinya utangnya sdh jatuh tempo harus segera dibayar
kalau tidak bisa di force sell.
Beda dgn yg dgn rek biasa krn main margin biasanya dikenakan bunga dan
limit khusus.

nim

On 4/15/09, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com wrote:
 *
 Saya belum begitu ngerti soal margin...
 apa yang dimaksud sama dengan kredit limit yang diberikan dari sekuritas?
 Atau funding dalam jumlah besar/sesuai permintaan nasabah dengan bunga
 tinggi?

 Kalo margin call tuh apa?

 Yang saya ngerti cuma kalo pake kredit limit, kalo lewat T + 3 bisa
 kena force sell plus dikenain bunga.

 apa ini yang disebut pake margin?

 Thanks.
 *
 2009/4/15 y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com



 Kan saya udah bilang, SYUKURI SAJA APA YANG KITA MILIKI.

 Invest/trading lebih baik pake uang sendiri, margin (duit pinjaman) akan
 mempengaruhi emosi anda dalam pengambilan keputusan, and it's not good.
 Kalo
 memang mau invest dengan duit gede, mending jadi hedge fund aja, kelola
 duit
 orang, kita juga bisa cuan dari feenya.

 Believe me, sudah banyak teman2 saya terpaksa out dari market gara2
 kejeblos di margin.

 Regards,
 Yudizz

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com,
 Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:
 
  *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others) bisa

  short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before this
 is
  a warning, so please listen.
 
  Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves 'fake'
 or
  borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than just
 a
  rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged
 trading,
  including.. you know.. that SP guy.
 
  Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy,
 not
  ally.
 
  Elaine**
  *
  2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@...
 
  
  
  
   Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
   Selanjutnya bagaimana?
   Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
  
   Hi hi hi hi .
  
  
  
  
 





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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-15 Terurut Topik Bangbang K W
Banyak untungnya juga pakai margin account, biasanya dapet fee jual/beli
yang lebih kecil dari account regular.

2009/4/16 Kim Chi kcmac...@gmail.com



 Margin call artinya utangnya sdh jatuh tempo harus segera dibayar
 kalau tidak bisa di force sell.
 Beda dgn yg dgn rek biasa krn main margin biasanya dikenakan bunga dan
 limit khusus.

 nim

 On 4/15/09, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com fifiyoung03%40gmail.com
 wrote:
  *

  Saya belum begitu ngerti soal margin...
  apa yang dimaksud sama dengan kredit limit yang diberikan dari sekuritas?
  Atau funding dalam jumlah besar/sesuai permintaan nasabah dengan bunga
  tinggi?
 
  Kalo margin call tuh apa?
 
  Yang saya ngerti cuma kalo pake kredit limit, kalo lewat T + 3 bisa
  kena force sell plus dikenain bunga.
 
  apa ini yang disebut pake margin?
 
  Thanks.
  *
  2009/4/15 y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com y_dizz%40mail2web.com
 
 
 
  Kan saya udah bilang, SYUKURI SAJA APA YANG KITA MILIKI.
 
  Invest/trading lebih baik pake uang sendiri, margin (duit pinjaman) akan
  mempengaruhi emosi anda dalam pengambilan keputusan, and it's not good.
  Kalo
  memang mau invest dengan duit gede, mending jadi hedge fund aja, kelola
  duit
  orang, kita juga bisa cuan dari feenya.
 
  Believe me, sudah banyak teman2 saya terpaksa out dari market gara2
  kejeblos di margin.
 
  Regards,
  Yudizz
 
  --- In 
  obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%
 40yahoogroups.com,
  Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:
  
   *Kalau ada terima report banyak margin trading Elaine (and others)
 bisa
 
   short until you get margin calls. Believe me, I did that before
 this
  is
   a warning, so please listen.
  
   Don't get me wrong, margin trading is not healthy as it involves
 'fake'
  or
   borrowed money, not real one. I have far more important target than
 just
  a
   rally. Last year some hedge funds were busted because of leveraged
  trading,
   including.. you know.. that SP guy.
  
   Of course, you can ignore me and use it, and that makes me your enemy,
  not
   ally.
  
   Elaine**
   *
   2009/4/15 Vidi Vici vdv...@...
  
   
   
   
Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
Selanjutnya bagaimana?
Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
   
Hi hi hi hi .
   
   
   
   
  
 
 
 
 

 --
 Sent from my mobile device
  



Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-14 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*...@myself.

Elaine**
*
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:

 *'Clues ' are more like riddle, so no I don't give clues. I prefer to
 share investment strategy. Buy this, short this, hold this. Target x% in y
 month. Things like that. (last year I told everyone on how I work but seems
 nobody believes so whatever lah)

 If you have the access, you should invest in Iran Stock Exchange,
 overweight on alternative energy sector (read:nuclear).

 For Indonesia, 2/3Q09 is the revenge of the METALheads + coal + plantation.
 Target up to 50%, in less than 6 months (Oct09). ps: these sectors have been
 rising like 100% since Nov 08,..

 BUMI, MEDCO, EMP and Bakrie Plants. are laggards, but they eventually will
 catch up.

 Elaine*


 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anru.s...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction?
 El, please give us some clues...
 Tx b4

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 --
 *From*: fifi young
 *Date*: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

 Wow...!
 This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
 long writing...
 Seems you are so happy today...
 Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
 You already knew who's gonna win...
 'n you knew what will happen next...
 Every1 sure will always remember you...
 an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
 cool hand to execute every single details...
 You are indeed 1 of a kind...

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting
 married somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 * Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to
 the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone
 is happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make
 five fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but
 you get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get
 what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and
 fgod sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months
 then STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*




 



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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-14 Terurut Topik Vidi Vici
Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
Selanjutnya bagaimana?
Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?

Hi hi hi hi .


Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-14 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Duh Pak,
Pengalaman saya pakai Margin, bikin Bobo ga tenang

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-Original Message-
From: Vidi Vici vdv...@gmail.com

Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:49:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia


Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
Selanjutnya bagaimana?
Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?

Hi hi hi hi .



Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-14 Terurut Topik fifi young
*VIVA ELAINE...!
*You have reached your target:
[?]ENRG[?]
[?]UNSP[?]


On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *...@myself.

 Elaine*
 *
 *
 On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:

 *'Clues ' are more like riddle, so no I don't give clues. I prefer to
 share investment strategy. Buy this, short this, hold this. Target x% in y
 month. Things like that. (last year I told everyone on how I work but seems
 nobody believes so whatever lah)

 If you have the access, you should invest in Iran Stock Exchange,
 overweight on alternative energy sector (read:nuclear).

 For Indonesia, 2/3Q09 is the revenge of the METALheads + coal +
 plantation. Target up to 50%, in less than 6 months (Oct09). ps: these
 sectors have been rising like 100% since Nov 08,..

 BUMI, MEDCO, EMP and Bakrie Plants. are laggards, but they eventually will
 catch up.

 Elaine*


 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anru.s...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction?
 El, please give us some clues...
 Tx b4

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 --
 *From*: fifi young
 *Date*: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

 Wow...!
 This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
 long writing...
 Seems you are so happy today...
 Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
 You already knew who's gonna win...
 'n you knew what will happen next...
 Every1 sure will always remember you...
 an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
 cool hand to execute every single details...
 You are indeed 1 of a kind...

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting
 married somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 * Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to
 the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone
 is happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make
 five fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but
 you get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get
 what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and
 fgod sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months
 then STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*






  

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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-14 Terurut Topik andref_r
play what you can afford to lose


--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, indeksbei3...@... wrote:

 Duh Pak,
 Pengalaman saya pakai Margin, bikin Bobo ga tenang
 
 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Vidi Vici vdv...@...
 
 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:49:38 
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia
 
 
 Target tante EL udah kena tadi  (yg naik 300 point)
 Selanjutnya bagaimana?
 Sekali lagi mau tanya MASA NGGA BOLEH PAKE MARGIN?
 
 Hi hi hi hi .





[ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*JT said Buy on Weakness*
*Embah said this is not a bear rally*
*Artmoro said more less the same*
*Dean said Welcome bull*
*Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
*Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married
somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
* Where's James Arifin?
Tasrul seems bullish*
*Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
*Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
*Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
*Ruzli was OWNED by me*
*Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation (buy..?
sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy and sell
at the same time [?])*
*Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
Cramer is bullish
Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
* *Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
especially Asia.

Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to the
North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is happy.
In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five fold if
you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you get the
idea [?])

This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index will
finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now. Indonesia,
along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the Asian
Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with China (the
Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING to Asia.

Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get what
I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and fgod
sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months then
STOP TRADING!

I'm serious.

Elaine Sui*
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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik indeksbei3000
Pardon me Dear, what do you say about me ?
Better wait for the quick count general election result.
 
:)

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...!

-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 13:48:53 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ob] Bullish for Asia


*JT said Buy on Weakness*
*Embah said this is not a bear rally*
*Artmoro said more less the same*
*Dean said Welcome bull*
*Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
*Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married
somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
* Where's James Arifin?
Tasrul seems bullish*
*Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
*Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
*Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
*Ruzli was OWNED by me*
*Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation (buy..?
sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy and sell
at the same time [?])*
*Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
Cramer is bullish
Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
* *Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
especially Asia.

Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to the
North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is happy.
In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five fold if
you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you get the
idea [?])

This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index will
finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now. Indonesia,
along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the Asian
Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with China (the
Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING to Asia.

Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get what
I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and fgod
sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months then
STOP TRADING!

I'm serious.

Elaine Sui*

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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik jko``
Well, I am sure I will remember your name and actions in the next recession,
if there is any..
L is a damn good mentor you can't find anywhere else in real world..



Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get what
I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and fgod
sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months then
STOP TRADING!* *
*
*I'm serious.*

Elaine** Sui*


Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik fifi young
Wow...!
This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
long writing...
Seems you are so happy today...
Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
You already knew who's gonna win...
'n you knew what will happen next...
Every1 sure will always remember you...
an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
cool hand to execute every single details...
You are indeed 1 of a kind...

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married
 somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 * Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 * *Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to the
 North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is
 happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five
 fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you
 get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get what
 I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and fgod
 sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months then
 STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*
  

330.gif347.gif

Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik anru . sing
Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction? 
El, please give us some clues...
Tx b4
Sent from my BlackBerry®
powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

-Original Message-
From: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia


Wow...!
This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
long writing...
Seems you are so happy today...
Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
You already knew who's gonna win...
'n you knew what will happen next...
Every1 sure will always remember you...
an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
cool hand to execute every single details...
You are indeed 1 of a kind...

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married
 somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 * Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 * *Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to the
 North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is
 happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five
 fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you
 get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get what
 I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and fgod
 sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months then
 STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*
  


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Bls: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Asep Buhori
OK lady,
I will change my style to long term trader and focus to undervalued second liner
My goal is profit thousands percent..




Dari: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comKepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTerkirim: Kamis, 9 April, 2009 13:48:53Topik: [ob] Bullish for Asia

JT said Buy on WeaknessEmbah said this is not a bear rallyArtmoro said more less the sameDean said Welcome bullSima flip flopped but she's bullishOentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married somewhere lolz, rumor said)Where's James Arifin?Tasrul seems bullishRei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroidAbdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the worldRuzli was OWNED by meBilly seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy and sell at the same time )Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullishJim rogers is bullish on commoditiesCramer is
 bullishEven Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy, especially Asia.Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you get the idea ) This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now. Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING to
 Asia.Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and fgod sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months then STOP TRADING! I'm serious.Elaine Sui
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Re: Bls: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Lucky Trader
Salam kenal P. Asep,
Kalo boleh tahu 2nd liner kira2 sector apa ya? Property? atau Coal spt DEWA
? yg msh dibawah cepek.

Mbak EL, bisa share cluenya donk

Rgds
NuBie


On 4/10/09, Asep Buhori asepbuh...@yahoo.com wrote:

  OK lady,
 I will change my style to long term trader and focus to undervalued second
 liner
 My goal is profit thousands percent..



  --
 *Dari:* Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com
 *Kepada:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Terkirim:* Kamis, 9 April, 2009 13:48:53
 *Topik:* [ob] Bullish for Asia

  *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married
 somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 *Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time )*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to the
 North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is
 happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five
 fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you
 get the idea )

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get what
 I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and fgod
 sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months then
 STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*

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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*'Clues ' are more like riddle, so no I don't give clues. I prefer to share
investment strategy. Buy this, short this, hold this. Target x% in y month.
Things like that. (last year I told everyone on how I work but seems nobody
believes so whatever lah)

If you have the access, you should invest in Iran Stock Exchange, overweight
on alternative energy sector (read:nuclear).

For Indonesia, 2/3Q09 is the revenge of the METALheads + coal + plantation.
Target up to 50%, in less than 6 months (Oct09). ps: these sectors have been
rising like 100% since Nov 08,..

BUMI, MEDCO, EMP and Bakrie Plants. are laggards, but they eventually will
catch up.

Elaine*

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anru.s...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction?
 El, please give us some clues...
 Tx b4

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 --
 *From*: fifi young
 *Date*: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

 Wow...!
 This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
 long writing...
 Seems you are so happy today...
 Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
 You already knew who's gonna win...
 'n you knew what will happen next...
 Every1 sure will always remember you...
 an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
 cool hand to execute every single details...
 You are indeed 1 of a kind...

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married
 somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 * Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to
 the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is
 happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five
 fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you
 get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get
 what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and
 fgod sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months
 then STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*




 

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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Yuta Tiziano
El,

Maybe too detail questions but yet it might give us some confidence to invest 
more:

1. What portion between stock and cash are you holding now? 

2. What best strategy now, put more on current (bottoming) or just straight to 
dollar averaging? BOW is one of tactic though

3. I do perceive that you are overweighting commodities (metal+coal+plantation) 
as they are now undevaluation from its fundamental things. Are the same 
situation happening in other countries, like China, Australia? as benchmarking 
comparison...

Rgds,
Yuta
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-Original Message-
From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com

Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:03:54 
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia


*'Clues ' are more like riddle, so no I don't give clues. I prefer to share
investment strategy. Buy this, short this, hold this. Target x% in y month.
Things like that. (last year I told everyone on how I work but seems nobody
believes so whatever lah)

If you have the access, you should invest in Iran Stock Exchange, overweight
on alternative energy sector (read:nuclear).

For Indonesia, 2/3Q09 is the revenge of the METALheads + coal + plantation.
Target up to 50%, in less than 6 months (Oct09). ps: these sectors have been
rising like 100% since Nov 08,..

BUMI, MEDCO, EMP and Bakrie Plants. are laggards, but they eventually will
catch up.

Elaine*

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anru.s...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction?
 El, please give us some clues...
 Tx b4

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 --
 *From*: fifi young
 *Date*: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

 Wow...!
 This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
 long writing...
 Seems you are so happy today...
 Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
 You already knew who's gonna win...
 'n you knew what will happen next...
 Every1 sure will always remember you...
 an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
 cool hand to execute every single details...
 You are indeed 1 of a kind...

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting married
 somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 * Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to
 the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone is
 happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make five
 fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but you
 get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get
 what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and
 fgod sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months
 then STOP TRADING!

 I'm serious.

 Elaine Sui*




 


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Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik y_dizz

Are you sure about ENRG..?!? How about this news:

Regards,

Yudizz


 

http://www.jawapos.com/halaman/index.php?act=detailnid=62531

[ Jum'at, 10 April 2009 ] 
Utang Jatuh Tempo EMP USD 1 Miliar 

 
JAKARTA - Kebutuhan dolar AS (USD) korporasi tetap tinggi meski kondisi
kurs rupiah fluktuatif. Salah satunya untuk membayar utang-utang yang
jatuh tempo seperti PT Energi Mega Persada Tbk (EMP).

Dirut EMP Christian V. Ponto dalam penjelasannya kepada bursa
mengemukakan utang valuta asing yang dimiliki oleh perusahaan pada
Januari dan Februari 2009 telah dilaporkan kepada Bapepam-LK. Ini untuk
memenuhi ketentuan agar emiten melaporkan jumlah utang valuta asing yang
dimiliki.

Dari laporan tersebut, pada Januari, utang emiten eksplorasi migas yang
harus dibayar pada bulan Januari mencapai angka USD 582.040.903 yang
terdiri dari utang bank senilai USD 450 juta dan lain-lain senilai USD
132.040.093.

Jumlah tersebut meningkat pada bulan Februari senilai USD 585.918.403
yang terdiri dari utang bank senilai USD 450 juta ditambah dengan utang
lain-lain mencapai USD 135.918.403.

Jumlah tersebut mencapai angka USD 1 miliar dalam dua bulan berjalan
tahun ini. Kebutuhan investasi migas yang berkaitan erat dengan barang
dan jasa dari luar negeri membuat komponen valuta asing mendominasi,
katanya.

Kebutuhan dolar yang tinggi ini, harusnya segera diantisipasi oleh
korporasi mengingat pada 2008, banyak laba perusahaan harus tergerus
karena mengalami kerugian kurs akibat transaksi derivatif. (iw/fan)
 


 
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@...
wrote:

 *'Clues ' are more like riddle, so no I don't give clues. I prefer to
share
 investment strategy. Buy this, short this, hold this. Target x% in y
month.
 Things like that. (last year I told everyone on how I work but seems
nobody
 believes so whatever lah)

 If you have the access, you should invest in Iran Stock Exchange,
overweight
 on alternative energy sector (read:nuclear).

 For Indonesia, 2/3Q09 is the revenge of the METALheads + coal +
plantation.
 Target up to 50%, in less than 6 months (Oct09). ps: these sectors
have been
 rising like 100% since Nov 08,..

 BUMI, MEDCO, EMP and Bakrie Plants. are laggards, but they eventually
will
 catch up.

 Elaine*

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anru.s...@... wrote:

 
 
  Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction?
  El, please give us some clues...
  Tx b4
 
  Sent from my BlackBerry®
  powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
 
  --
  *From*: fifi young
  *Date*: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 +0700
  *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia
 
  Wow...!
  This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
  long writing...
  Seems you are so happy today...
  Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
  You already knew who's gonna win...
  'n you knew what will happen next...
  Every1 sure will always remember you...
  an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
  cool hand to execute every single details...
  You are indeed 1 of a kind...
 
  On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  *JT said Buy on Weakness*
  *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
  *Artmoro said more less the same*
  *Dean said Welcome bull*
  *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
  *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting
married
  somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
  * Where's James Arifin?
  Tasrul seems bullish*
  *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
  *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
  *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
  *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
  *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with
recommendation
  (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't
recommend buy
  and sell at the same time [?])*
  *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
  Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
  Cramer is bullish
  Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
  **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
  especially Asia.
 
  Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same
track to
  the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy.
Everyone is
  happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good,
make five
  fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really
but you
  get the idea [?])
 
  This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei
Index
  will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from
now.
  Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once
called the
  Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together
with
  China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is
LEANING
  to Asia.
 
  Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will
get
  what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to
know and
  fgod

Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

2009-04-09 Terurut Topik Elaine Sui
*1. Can't tell, coz I manage dynamic portfolios, not fixed ones. If I spot
opportunities I can request more money to invest, and if I spot potential
profit, I can pull/short right away. I dunno about the 'cash' reserve, even
If I know I won't tell [?]
2. DCA. Considering the size, kalau Elaine put everything at once, cuma
kasih free lunch to traders... lolz no way, but I did that sometimes to keep
the spirit high (anyway DCA only works for investor).
3. Yes, and Indonesia is the cheapest one.

To yudiz: Yes I'm aware of that. (buy on bad news). Last close 74, last 2
years close 15xx. For me it looks like a good deal. Laggard stock, but I can
wait.

I, Aimee, Retha, Nabila and Fifi, we are ladies, we love discount! lolz

Elaine*

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Yuta Tiziano yuta.tizi...@gmail.comwrote:



 El,

 Maybe too detail questions but yet it might give us some confidence to
 invest more:

 1. What portion between stock and cash are you holding now?

 2. What best strategy now, put more on current (bottoming) or just straight
 to dollar averaging? BOW is one of tactic though

 3. I do perceive that you are overweighting commodities
 (metal+coal+plantation) as they are now undevaluation from its fundamental
 things. Are the same situation happening in other countries, like China,
 Australia? as benchmarking comparison...

 Rgds,
 Yuta

 Powered by my VerryBerry®

 --
 *From*: Elaine Sui
 *Date*: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:03:54 +0700

 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia
 *'Clues ' are more like riddle, so no I don't give clues. I prefer to
 share investment strategy. Buy this, short this, hold this. Target x% in y
 month. Things like that. (last year I told everyone on how I work but seems
 nobody believes so whatever lah)

 If you have the access, you should invest in Iran Stock Exchange,
 overweight on alternative energy sector (read:nuclear).

 For Indonesia, 2/3Q09 is the revenge of the METALheads + coal + plantation.
 Target up to 50%, in less than 6 months (Oct09). ps: these sectors have been
 rising like 100% since Nov 08,..

 BUMI, MEDCO, EMP and Bakrie Plants. are laggards, but they eventually will
 catch up.

 Elaine*

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:56 PM, anru.s...@gmail.com wrote:



 Yeah! Just wonder how can Elaine get such a amazing prediction?
 El, please give us some clues...
 Tx b4

 Sent from my BlackBerry®
 powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT

 --
 *From*: fifi young
 *Date*: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 19:41:38 +0700
 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
 *Subject*: Re: [ob] Bullish for Asia

 Wow...!
 This is my 1st time ever to see Elaine in such a
 long writing...
 Seems you are so happy today...
 Oh yeah... it's election day... no wonder...
 You already knew who's gonna win...
 'n you knew what will happen next...
 Every1 sure will always remember you...
 an awesome young lady with brilliant n hard head,
 cool hand to execute every single details...
 You are indeed 1 of a kind...

 On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:



 *JT said Buy on Weakness*
 *Embah said this is not a bear rally*
 *Artmoro said more less the same*
 *Dean said Welcome bull*
 *Sima flip flopped but she's bullish*
 *Oentoeng and boyz disappears indefinitely (maybe they're getting
 married somewhere lolz, rumor said)*
 * Where's James Arifin?
 Tasrul seems bullish*
 *Rei is always bullish (even last year..ha ha)*
 *Fifi is always be like a soccer mom on steroid*
 *Abdulrazen the coolest and most handsome livestock in the world*
 *Ruzli was OWNED by me*
 *Billy seems expert on technical but has problem with recommendation
 (buy..? sell? hold? reduce? add? what's the action? you can't recommend buy
 and sell at the same time [?])*
 *Buffett is still yangkut lolz but he's bullish
 Jim rogers is bullish on commodities
 Cramer is bullish
 Even Professor Roubini now is not as bearish as he used to be.
 **Almost all media coverage is showing bullishness on the economy,
 especially Asia.

 Well, it seems that OB family finally get together on the same track to
 the North Pole. I said l...@everyone. I'm happy. You're happy. Everyone
 is happy. In the end, you may double your portfolio if you're good, make
 five fold if you're lucky or even ten fold if you were me. (not really but
 you get the idea [?])

 This may sound crazy too but I think there's a chance that Nikkei Index
 will finally make a new all time high in five to ten years from now.
 Indonesia, along with Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore were once called the
 Asian Tigers in the 90's, and will be once again in 2010, together with
 China (the Dragons), and Japan. Interestingly enough, Australia is LEANING
 to Asia.

 Ten years from now, I hope you guys still remember my name. I will get
 what I want, I know my expectation, I share everything you need to know and
 fgod sake if you still didn't make money like 100% for the last 6 months
 then STOP TRADING