[ob] Re: DJIA for today
DJIA for tonite. Another test to 50 EMA, good news if we break it. There is still weakness overall, since DJIA trades on top of bollinger and not yet break 50 EMA http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta...@... wrote: Retest 7257, right on target. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: DJIA 11.00EST Watch out if DJIA retreat and close near the low around 7250 http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4149/djia19.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: As promised. DJIA well done, watch out for temporary weakness. If break resistance can be a potential bull wedge, another beautiful play by those at NYSE http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8008/djia1.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: Zoom zoom DJIA rsi might cross 50 today, if the condition permit, 50 ema and resistance lead to one place after that bull wedge take control if you can break it. http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: The fun begins when RSI cross 50 http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: Bull scenario, i wishh. Bull wedge aka falling wedge, macd rsi positive divergence. http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: Chart for tuesday http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/8136/djiad.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: RSI positive divergence, Crispy it is. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: If DJIA friday low doesn't go lower than thrusday low then it's buy signal. Let's hope the support hold. http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: To break or not to break http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: Let's hope the support holds. http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: DJIA almost crispy wait a little until macd and rsi show positive divergence then its ready to serve. http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: DJIA another view: http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5749/djia.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: Be prepared for bear case scenario guys. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: Just scrutinized DJIA further after 2 days ago gap down, and its a pretty disturbing finding. Another bearish scenario just to get us prepared. http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2810/djia2cq0.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: Resistance resistance DJIA 19 FEB 10:30 WIB http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4070/djiacs2.gif --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, shiro_rex@ wrote: Kalo ngikuti chart, double bottom, jadi hari ini kemungkinan bisa naik dulu, tp tidak menutup kemungkinan untuk kembali turun ke
[ob] This will be a very powerful rally
The rally in BEI could be wave 3 if using elliot wave theory...wave 3 is the strongest and longest rally compare to wave 1 and 5...come on BEI how high can u go
[ob] BNBR: Pipa Kalija Mulai Dibangun Bertahap
semoga BNBR bangun dari tidurnya Jakarta - Pipanisasi Kalimantan-Jawa (Kalija) akhirnya mulai dibangun tahun ini. Pemerintah akhirnya mengizinkan Bakrie and Brothers (BNBR), sebagai pemegang hak pembangunan pipa untuk membangunnya secara bertahap. Hal ini disampaikan Kepala BPH Migas Tubagus Haryono di sela-sela penandatanganan nota kesepahaman pasokan gas bumi untuk rumah tangga di Kota Palembang dan Surabaya, di Gedung Departemen (ESDM), Jalan Medan Merdeka, Jakarta, Senin (23/3/2009). Kami sepakati boleh bangun bertahap. Untuk tahap pertama akan dibangun 200 km dari lapangan Kepodang (Petronas) ke Tambak Lorok. Adapun gas yang dialirkan sebesar 120-200 mmscfd, ujar Tubagus. Tubagus berharap pada April 2011 gas sudah mengalir dari lapangan Kepodang ke PLTGU Tambak Lorok. Pokoknya April 2011, itu sudah mengalir gasnya. Dari pipa itu saya berharap lapangan-lapangan marginal-marginal yang dilalui akan berkembang. Sedangkan untuk toll fee-nya tetap karena kami tidak mungkin melakukan perubahan, ungkapnya. Menurut Tubagus, seluruh pembiayaan dari pembangunan pipa gas ini tidak dibebankan sebagai cost recovery sehingga Petronas sebagai pemilik lapangan gas Kepodang akan kehilangan pergantian cost recovery sebesar US$ 150-170 juta. Justru pemerintah bisa mendapatkan iuran yang besarnya cukup lumayan, ungkapnya. Sementara itu, Menteri Energi dan Sumber Daya Mineral (ESDM) Purnomo Yusgiantoro menyatakan tidak dimasukannya biaya pembangunan pipa kedalam cost recovery bertujuan untuk menekan pengeluaran cost recovery oleh pemerintah. Berdasarkan UU APBN, kami merubah berbagai section yang tadinya di cost recovery tidak masuk ke cost recovery supaya tidak membebani APBN. Untuk itu, kami tidak memasukan pembangunan pipa Kalija dari Kepodang ke Tambak Lorok ke dalam cost recovery, tandasnya.
[ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@bloomberg.net; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@bloomberg.net Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT
Bls: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
udah pake margin saya mbah dari kamis... doain ya mbah semoga saya selamat... Dario Amran --- Pada Sen, 23/3/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Topik: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009, 1:25 PM Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@bloomberg. net; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@bloomberg. net Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[ob] Fw: Is It Time to Buy Banks?
BMRI, BBNI, BBRI Is It Time to Buy Banks? By Anand Chokkavelu February 24, 2009 After processing Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner's latest plans to save our financial system, I'm tempted to buy a bank stock. See, Mr. Market kicked my butt last year. And I want some revenge. What better way than to be contrarian and pick up shares in the most beaten-down, toxic, left-for-dead sector this side of the homebuilders? Why not? It's not as if we're still worried that banks are going under. After all, the government has made it clear that the largest banks aren't going anywhere. Those that were already too big to fail only got bigger: Bank of America (NYSE: BAC) swallowed up Countrywide and Merrill Lynch. JPMorgan Chase (NYSE: JPM) grabbed Bear Stearns and Washington Mutual. Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC) took over Wachovia. Any remaining worry that the banking behemoths would be allowed to fail has been eliminated by the second helpings of TARP love for Bank of America and Citigroup ... and possibly more on the way. See, too much is at stake. As fellow Fool Richard Gibbons explained, the lending banks provide allows our whole economic system to operate. Without this credit, we wouldn't just be talking about the impending collapse of companies with inherent problems like General Motors (NYSE: GM) and Chrysler -- we'd also be talking about the possible bankruptcies of robust companies like Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT) and Procter Gamble (NYSE: PG). And we won't even get into what would happen to credit-dependent medium-sized businesses, mom-and-pop shops, and individuals. The banks -- and the banking industry -- will definitely survive. But what price survival? So the banks will survive. They must. But -- and this is why temptation hasn't turned to action -- survival doesn't necessarily mean that shareholders will benefit. Just ask the people who owned Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and AIG. Yes, the government will continue to throw lifelines to the banks, but the implications for the banks and their shareholders are still undetermined. As shown by the new curbs on executive pay at companies receiving TARP funds, the government can and will make the costs of those lifelines increasingly punitive. It's no coincidence that Goldman Sachs (NYSE: GS) and JPMorgan suddenly want to pay back their TARP money as soon as they can. And this may not be the end of it. Recall that the rescue of Bear Stearns last March was supposed to prevent a financial collapse. It didn't -- a year later, we're still groping for a stable plan of action. The government has many tools at its disposal -- from the purchase of toxic assets to capital injections all the way on up to complete nationalization. And each of these options could be executed with very favorable or very unfavorable terms for the banks and their common shareholders. Think positive? Now, I'm a confirmed optimist, but given the government-interven tion wild card, buying banks at this point is more speculation than investing. Why? Even discounting government-related uncertainty, to invest in a bank, we must thoroughly understand the balance sheet of that bank. And that's virtually impossible in the case of investment banks, especially now. Understanding even one derivatives contract is daunting; properly assessing the risks of a whole portfolio of derivatives contracts jacked up with leverage and swapped back and forth by mis-incentivized traders is more Einstein than Joe Investor. Thus, I wouldn't touch shares of Goldman Sachs, despite its status as a finishing school for Treasury Secretaries. And if I wouldn't touch Goldman, I certainly wouldn't touch Morgan Stanley. But even when we're talking about banks that have stuck to their commercial banking roots, avoided risky megamergers, and seemed to navigate the subprime debacle well -- like BBT and US Bancorp -- we can't be sure. Don't believe that the healthy banks are healthy just because nothing bad has come out yet. We've seen again and again in this crisis that everything is fine until it isn't. Talking us off the ledge So I would advise against buying a bank stock unless you have three things: particular insight into bank balance sheets, an unshakable faith in that bank’s management, and comfort speculating on the final form of the government bailout initiatives. But I understand why it's tempting. When I see age-old companies with dividend yields hovering around 12.5%, I salivate. In the end, though, I'd rather find attractive yields attached to excellent companies that aren't living and dying at the whim of the government. When the average stock is selling for half off, why take the extra risk by buying a bank stock? If you're looking for companies selling at attractive prices (with sustainable dividends to boot), I invite you to view our Motley Fool Income Investor team's recommendations. A 30-day trial is free. Just click here to get
Re: Bls: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Mari kita berdoa bersama agar Pemilu dan Hoki lancar... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@... wrote: udah pake margin saya mbah dari kamis... doain ya mbah semoga saya selamat... Dario Amran --- Pada Sen, 23/3/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Topik: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009, 1:25 PM Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@bloomberg. net; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@bloomberg. net Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
[ob] BUMI Intraday - Buy Near Bottoms
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[ob] waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
Re: Bls: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Amin Mbah. 2009/3/23 jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Mari kita berdoa bersama agar Pemilu dan Hoki lancar... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, dario kurniawan darioamran1...@... wrote: udah pake margin saya mbah dari kamis... doain ya mbah semoga saya selamat... Dario Amran --- Pada Sen, 23/3/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... Topik: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009, 1:25 PM Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@bloomberg. net; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@bloomberg. net Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik.
[ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tora kopitorab...@... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
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[ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
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Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
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[ob] Re: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
satria Brama Kumbara kemana ya hehehebahasanya itu suka Italiano segala..nongol lagi kalo indeks 1.000 kaleee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@...; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@... Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT
Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
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Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
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Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
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[ob] Penguatan rupiah terhadap dollar apa implikasinya?
*Rupiah seminggu terakhir ditutup menguat bahkan hari ini mencapai 11.500. Penguatan rupiah ini sebagian besar disebabkan dari pelemahan us dolar terhadap seluruh mata uang di dunia. Mengapa us dollar mengalami tekanan? gampang saja jawabannya, pemerintah us di sana sedang menghadapi perang melawan pengangguran, dan cara yang paling gampang adalah memakai ekspansionary policy yaitu dengan kebijakan moneter dari fed dengan menurunkan suku bunga. Rupanya cara menurunkan suku bunga tersebut masih belum dianggap cukup, gebrakan berikutnya yang mengejutkan adalah membeli kembali surat utang yang diterbitkannya. Tentu saja ini akan membanjiri pasokan dollar di pasar global. Kedua langkah yang cukup berani tersebut tentu saja akan menyebabkan inflasi yang tinggi. Kebijakan mentri keuangan ini mendapatkan tentangan di partai republik yang menyatakan bahwa kebijakan tersebut sama saja dengan membangkrutkan Amerika. Mereka yang terbiasa main di banyak instrument tentu akan menjual dollar mereka dan membeli mata uang lainnya dan untuk menghindari inflasi sebagian besar akan masuk ke pasar komoditas sebagai salah satu anti inflasi strategi. Makanya tidak heran selain pelemahan mata uang us dollar terhadap hampir sebagian besar mata uang dunia dampak lainnya adalah semakin naiknya harga komoditas di pasaran global. Lupakan dulu masalah global bukan itu yang ingin saya utarakan, pertanyaan yang paling penting adalah apa dampaknya di Indonesia? Seperti yang kita ketahui belakangan ini langkah bank Indonesia menurunkan BI rate sepertinya kurang disambut dengan penurunan suku bunga kredit bank. Alasannya para bankir adalah para deposan meminta suku bunga deposito yang tinggi sehingga mereka kesulitan untuk menurunkan suku bunga pinjaman. Benarkah demikian, menurut hemat saya memang ada faktor tersebut tapi bukan yang paling utama. Yan paling penting adalah bank sedang kesulitan likuiditas. Kesulitan likuiditas ini dilakukan dengan menyerap dana pihak ketiga secara agresif. Pertanyaannya, mangapa mereka agresif menyerap dana pihak ketiga sedangkan penyaluran kredit di encret encret. Pribadi merasa curiga penyerapan dana masyarakat tersebut sebagian besar dibelanjakan oleh bagian treasury utamanya untuk membeli obligasi karena yield obligasi kita memang sedang tinggi-tingginya atau malah dipakai memborong dollar pake rupiah terutama oleh bank valas. Nah bila kedua tujuan pengalihan tersebut sekarang sedang berbalik arah yaitu rupiah malah menguat dan yieild obligasi sedang bergerak turun, tentu saja mereka akan menjual valas dan obligasinya (harga obligasi akan meningkat bila yieldnya turun), akibatnya adalah mereka memiliki likuiditas baru. Pribadi menduga, likuiditas segar dari valas dan penjualan obligasi ini nantinya akan menyebabkan bank tidak terlalu mengejar deposan/ dana pihak ketiga, dan mulai menyalurkan untuk kredit pinjaman. Ketika menyalurkan kredit pinjaman inilah maka suku bunga kredit pinjaman sedikit demi sedikit akan turun. Bila BI ingin mempercepat penurunan suku bunga pinjaman, maka langkah yang berikutnya adalah menunggangi penguatan rupiah dengan kembali menurunkan suku bunga BI rate, terlebih BI sekarang fokus kepada inflation targetting, dimana penguatan rupiah akan menyebabkan inflasi turun karena banyak barang indonesia yang diimport dari pihak luar. Kesimpulannya, selamat datang rezim suku bunga murah dan good luck for all interest sensitive sector :) CMIIW*
Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - From: Welly Octavianus To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorab...@gmail.com wrote: From: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
[ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
[ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
[ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
[ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
[ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
Re: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
saya pribadi, sama sekali enggak pak, karena saya berpikir, jika saya mengalami hal tersebut (dan ternyata sangat mungkin terjadi), maka perasaan saya juga tentu akan seperti perasaaan para nasabah SP yg urusannya masih blom jelas sp sekarang. cuma gak tau mau bantu apa dan gimana caranya. kalo perlu mengumpulkan dukungan untuk memperkuat suara, saya bersedia. turut bersimpati. - Original Message - From: q q To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:57 PM Subject: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
[ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
bisa di pilih lewat user identification --insert directly , cuma gak tau nih servernya HOTs kalo Lagi hot ya gosong semua , maklum made in korea boss On 3/23/09, tora kopitorab...@gmail.com wrote: wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - *From:* Welly Octavianus welly_oc...@yahoo.com *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On *Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorab...@gmail.com* wrote: From: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - *From:* jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM *Subject:* [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
Bls: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
Apa kena efek e-trading kompetisi ya? Khan mulai tanggal 23 Maret 2009. Adu lagi lomba ada cepat-cepatan, apalagi market lagi plus. Dari: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009 13:57:03 Topik: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - From: Welly Octavianus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com wrote: From: tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
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pak, emailnya kok muncul berkali2 ? SOL rgrds, Riva To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com From: yudhie...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:08:40 -0700 Subject: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih _ NEW! Get Windows Live FREE. http://www.get.live.com/wl/all
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Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
ada yg sudah call etrading? saya coba berkali kali ke 2553 1000, gak pernah bisa masuk waduh, semoga jangan deh, masih lebih penting trading di BEI daripada kompetisi-kompetisian internal. tapi kalo melihat securitas lain juga bermasalah, sptnya bukan dari si etrading. sayang sekali, fasilitas web dan wap trading blom berfungsi... hal etrading, aktifkan lagi dong! - Original Message - From: Antonius Effendy To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet Apa kena efek e-trading kompetisi ya? Khan mulai tanggal 23 Maret 2009. Adu lagi lomba ada cepat-cepatan, apalagi market lagi plus. -- Dari: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009 13:57:03 Topik: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - From: Welly Octavianus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com wrote: From: tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat -- Warnai pesan status dengan Emoticon. Sekarang bisa dengan Yahoo! Messenger baru.
Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
per jam 14:18, koneksi lancar lagi... fiuh... - Original Message - From: ahmad abadi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet bisa di pilih lewat user identification --insert directly , cuma gak tau nih servernya HOTs kalo Lagi hot ya gosong semua , maklum made in korea boss On 3/23/09, tora kopitorab...@gmail.com wrote: wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - From: Welly Octavianus To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorab...@gmail.com wrote: From: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
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heheheheh rasanya boleh average up ini saham kenceng abis di 860
[ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
itu masalah saya dulu, yang menyebabkan saya pindah ke IPOT. hehehe. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, er1ck er1...@... wrote: emang macet ya? ni pake speedy, 3G telkomsel flash ga bisa semua...dudulz HOTS... 2009/3/23 re...@trade funky81.tra...@... Saya pakai isat juga macet...IP server lainnya berapa ya? Ada yg tahu? Sent from TradingBerry® sponsored by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -- *From*: tora *Date*: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:41:53 +0700 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - *From:* jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM *Subject:* [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tora kopitorabika@ wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
Re: [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Saham dan targetnya
UNTR gimana pak ? Thanks Cenayank Saham wrote: FYI.. SAHAM + Support dan Resisten Target yang terlihat : PTBA -- 7000 -- 9400 TINS -- 1090 -- 2000 SMCB -- 530/540 -- 910 TLKM -- 6500 -- 8400 UNSP -- 285/305 -- 1170 BLTA -- 500 -- 1590 ANTM -- 1100/1120 -- 2325 BBRI -- 4100/4250 -- 5450 BMRI -- 1820 -- 2650 BBCA -- 2800 -- 2950/2975 -- 3450/3600 INDF -- 980 -- 1820 Salam, JH
Re: Bls: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
Hots sudah bisa tuh pake isat. Terima Kasih Sent from TradingBerry® sponsored by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Antonius Effendy antonae2...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:06:13 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet Apa kena efek e-trading kompetisi ya? Khan mulai tanggal 23 Maret 2009. Adu lagi lomba ada cepat-cepatan, apalagi market lagi plus. Dari: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009 13:57:03 Topik: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - From: Welly Octavianus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com wrote: From: tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat Mulai chatting dengan teman di Yahoo! Pingbox baru sekarang!! Membuat tempat chat pribadi di blog Anda sekarang sangatlah mudah. http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/pingbox/
[ob] Etrading udah jalan
Etrading udah jalan Dari BEI udah lancar...
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Saya stop trading sejak Desember 08 dan hari ini saya merasa sangat bahagia Adakah members OB yang seperti saya?
[ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
ulu pernah tanya orang etrading dikasih tahu kalo access server 117.103.37.7 port 1972. Tapi tetep ga bisa. Keerrorran bukan pada jaringan Anda, tp HOTSnya :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, ahmad abadi 446...@... wrote: bisa di pilih lewat user identification --insert directly , cuma gak tau nih servernya HOTs kalo Lagi hot ya gosong semua , maklum made in korea boss On 3/23/09, tora kopitorab...@... wrote: wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - *From:* Welly Octavianus welly_oc...@... *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM *Subject:* Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On *Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorab...@...* wrote: From: tora kopitorab...@... Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - *From:* jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM *Subject:* [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
Re: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Tunggu jatuh lah Mbah, baru pada ngebacot lagi... Hehe.., Bearish Make Money, Sideways Make Money, Bullish apalagi... Hehe Tapi naiknya too fast sih Mbah, ntar kalo koreksi ke 1380'an jangan pada panik ya, it would be normal correction. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:25:28 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@bloomberg.net; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@bloomberg.net Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
Re: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Tunggu jatuh lah Mbah, baru pada ngebacot lagi... Hehe.., Bearish Make Money, Sideways Make Money, Bullish apalagi... Hehe Tapi naiknya too fast sih Mbah, ntar kalo koreksi ke 1380'an jangan pada panik ya, it would be normal correction. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 06:25:28 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@bloomberg.net; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@bloomberg.net Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus
RE: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
Emang HOTS nya yg problem bukan jaringan internet, sekarang tuh bisa lagi Hots. _ From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tora Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:57 PM To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - From: Welly mailto:welly_oc...@yahoo.com Octavianus To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorabika@ mailto:kopitorab...@gmail.com gmail.com wrote: From: tora kopitorabika@ mailto:kopitorab...@gmail.com gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant mailto:jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com yahoogroups. com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat
[ob] Video Volume Analysis (Youtube)
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Re: [ob] Re: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Ngelihat anggota OB banyak yg baru dan ngomongnya nge-bull saya jadi kuatir nih mbah, mungkin udah saatnya saya mulai bersih2 dan pegang cash dulu. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM, datasahamku datasaha...@yahoo.com wrote: satria Brama Kumbara kemana ya hehehebahasanya itu suka Italiano segala..nongol lagi kalo indeks 1.000 kaleee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@... wrote: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese oil producer PetroChina Co. are among the top holdings of Mobius's Templeton Emerging Markets Trust. To contact the reporter on this story: Chua Kong Ho in Shanghai at kch...@...; Paul Gordon in Hong Kong at pgord...@... Last Updated: March 23, 2009 00:51 EDT + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Bls: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
saya sebenarnya juga seperti anda mulai putus asa dengan otoritas BEI, sepertinya kepastian hukum itu gak jelas, sepertinya kami dalam posisi terjepit tak ada tempat mengadu, saya juga mulai berpikir bagaimana pula dengan account saya di sekuritas lainnya, saya mulai rasa tak nyaman, dan sangat takut kapan giliran itu tiba. Siapa lagi korbannya, Dari: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009 14:02:45 Topik: Re: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya saya pribadi, sama sekali enggak pak, karena saya berpikir, jika saya mengalami hal tersebut (dan ternyata sangat mungkin terjadi), maka perasaan saya juga tentu akan seperti perasaaan para nasabah SP yg urusannya masih blom jelas sp sekarang. cuma gak tau mau bantu apa dan gimana caranya. kalo perlu mengumpulkan dukungan untuk memperkuat suara, saya bersedia. turut bersimpati. - Original Message - From: q q To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:57 PM Subject: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih ___ Yahoo! sekarang memiliki alamat Email baru. Dapatkan nama yang selalu Anda inginkan di domain baru @ymail dan @rocketmail. Cepat sebelum diambil orang lain! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/id/
[ob] Pak JT: Bisi?
Pak JT, Kalo dilihat posisi sekarang, BISI bisa turun lebih dalam lagi gak? gimana kalo candle jadi merah dan vold sebesar itu? thanks
Re: [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Saham dan targetnya
syeeet dah,,, kasih time frame nya dong pak, gw juga mau nih, naik 100% gitu loh ;) - Original Message - From: Cenayank Saham To: Obrolan Bandar Cc: Saham Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Saham dan targetnya FYI.. SAHAM + Support dan Resisten Target yang terlihat : PTBA -- 7000 -- 9400 TINS -- 1090 -- 2000 SMCB -- 530/540 -- 910 TLKM -- 6500 -- 8400 UNSP -- 285/305 -- 1170 BLTA -- 500 -- 1590 ANTM -- 1100/1120 -- 2325 BBRI -- 4100/4250 -- 5450 BMRI -- 1820 -- 2650 BBCA -- 2800 -- 2950/2975 -- 3450/3600 INDF -- 980 -- 1820 Salam, JH -- Firefox 3: Lebih Cepat, Lebih Aman, Dapat Disesuaikan dan Gratis.
[ob] Re: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Kemarin baca2 berita di Antara, defisit amrik thn 2008 diperkirakan mencapai USD 1,8 T sekitar 13,..% dari GDP-nya naik tajam dibanding thn sebelumnya yg hanya sekitar USD 4xx miliar (3,..% GDP) Itu aja sie.. ;p Kenaikan den BEI hari ini ditopang oleh penguatan IDR thd USD yg signifikan, mungkin salah 1 konsekuensi logis dari berita defisit tsb diatas.. Saya tetep kuatir di kuartal II '09 nanti.. ti ati yaa.. :) Salam --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Vernichtung gambler@... wrote: Ngelihat anggota OB banyak yg baru dan ngomongnya nge-bull saya jadi kuatir nih mbah, mungkin udah saatnya saya mulai bersih2 dan pegang cash dulu. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM, datasahamku datasaha...@... wrote: satria Brama Kumbara kemana ya hehehebahasanya itu suka Italiano segala..nongol lagi kalo indeks 1.000 kaleee --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe... Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets Management LLC, said in a phone interview March 19. Things have gone too far down. Asian stock market valuations outside of Japan fell to 0.9 times book value during the 1975 and 1982 recessions, according to Citigroup. The MSCI Asia excluding Japan Index is now valued at 1.3 times book value. Brazilian oil company Petroleo Brasileiro SA, Cia. Vale do Rio Doce, the world's biggest iron-ore producer, and Chinese
RE: [ob] Pak JT: Bisi?
Terus terang saya ngga pay attention ke BISI Bu, barusan sih sempet saya intip sekilas, memang ada signal reversal yg cukup kuat, tapi saya curiga BD lagi nge'gambar chart.., kita harus lihat pake mikroskop dan dipelajari dgn seksama baru bisa kelihatan 'maunya' apa.., Tapi buat saya sih kalau kita ragu sebaiknya dihindari aja., mending mempelajari saham yg lain aja deh., banyak yg jauh lebih menarik dari BISI.., maaf buat BISI lover, bukan merendahkan, semata-mata hanya karena ragu dan banyak pilihan lain yg jauh lebih sexy.. JT From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Meiliany Halim Sent: 23 Maret 2009 14:43 To: obrolan-bandar Subject: [ob] Pak JT: Bisi? Pak JT, Kalo dilihat posisi sekarang, BISI bisa turun lebih dalam lagi gak? gimana kalo candle jadi merah dan vold sebesar itu? thanks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2017 - Release Date: 3/22/2009 5:51 PM
Re: [ob] Re: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Menurut saya President (mungkin) akan meminta keringanan (rescheduling),pemotongan utang,bahkan Debt To Equity Swap Pertama di dunia, bank sentral mempunyai kepemilikan saham pada suatu NEGARA cmiiw regards From: cipto_jh cipto...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:46:46 PM Subject: [ob] Re: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Kemarin baca2 berita di Antara, defisit amrik thn 2008 diperkirakan mencapai USD 1,8 T sekitar 13,..% dari GDP-nya naik tajam dibanding thn sebelumnya yg hanya sekitar USD 4xx miliar (3,..% GDP) Itu aja sie.. ;p Kenaikan den BEI hari ini ditopang oleh penguatan IDR thd USD yg signifikan, mungkin salah 1 konsekuensi logis dari berita defisit tsb diatas.. Saya tetep kuatir di kuartal II '09 nanti.. ti ati yaa.. :) Salam --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vernichtung gambler..bej@ ... wrote: Ngelihat anggota OB banyak yg baru dan ngomongnya nge-bull saya jadi kuatir nih mbah, mungkin udah saatnya saya mulai bersih2 dan pegang cash dulu. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM, datasahamku datasahamku@ ... wrote: satria Brama Kumbara kemana ya hehehebahasanya itu suka Italiano segala..nongol lagi kalo indeks 1.000 kaleee --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long term and invest over a long-term horizon. Mobius's views that stocks will rally are shared by investor Antoine van Agtmael, who coined the term emerging markets. Relative to potential sustainable growth and quality, emerging markets today are cheaper than I have seen them at any time since I started to invest 30 years ago, van Agtmael, who oversees about $8.6 billion as chairman and chief investment officer at Emerging Markets
Re: [ob] Pak JT: Bisi?
terima kasih atas masukkannya pak JT. 2009/3/23 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Terus terang saya ngga pay attention ke BISI Bu, barusan sih sempet saya intip sekilas, memang ada signal reversal yg cukup kuat, tapi saya curiga BD lagi nge’gambar chart.., kita harus lihat pake mikroskop dan dipelajari dgn seksama baru bisa kelihatan ‘maunya’ apa…., Tapi buat saya sih kalau kita ragu sebaiknya dihindari aja…, mending mempelajari saham yg lain aja deh…, banyak yg jauh lebih menarik dari BISI…., maaf buat BISI lover, bukan merendahkan, semata-mata hanya karena ragu dan banyak pilihan lain yg jauh lebih sexy…. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Meiliany Halim *Sent:* 23 Maret 2009 14:43 *To:* obrolan-bandar *Subject:* [ob] Pak JT: Bisi? Pak JT, Kalo dilihat posisi sekarang, BISI bisa turun lebih dalam lagi gak? gimana kalo candle jadi merah dan vold sebesar itu? thanks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2017 - Release Date: 3/22/2009 5:51 PM
[ob] BMRI aka rounding bottom
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:chart_patterns:rounding_bottom_reve
[ob] Re: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ?
Moratorium dan Debt to Equity Swap.. hehehe.. Bisa jadi, lha wong masih mau ngeluarin paket lagi, the Fed, China, Jepang bisa juga jadi pemegang saham-nya, atau jualan Alaska hehehe.. Dach 'Besar pasak daripada tenda'.. :p --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, agung aja agung.ke...@... wrote: Menurut saya President (mungkin) akan meminta keringanan (rescheduling),pemotongan utang,bahkan Debt To Equity Swap Pertama di dunia, bank sentral mempunyai kepemilikan saham pada suatu NEGARA cmiiw regards From: cipto_jh cipto...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:46:46 PM Subject: [ob] Re: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Kemarin baca2 berita di Antara, defisit amrik thn 2008 diperkirakan mencapai USD 1,8 T sekitar 13,..% dari GDP-nya naik tajam dibanding thn sebelumnya yg hanya sekitar USD 4xx miliar (3,..% GDP) Itu aja sie.. ;p Kenaikan den BEI hari ini ditopang oleh penguatan IDR thd USD yg signifikan, mungkin salah 1 konsekuensi logis dari berita defisit tsb diatas.. Saya tetep kuatir di kuartal II '09 nanti.. ti ati yaa.. :) Salam --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vernichtung gambler..bej@ ... wrote: Ngelihat anggota OB banyak yg baru dan ngomongnya nge-bull saya jadi kuatir nih mbah, mungkin udah saatnya saya mulai bersih2 dan pegang cash dulu. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 1:53 PM, datasahamku datasahamku@ ... wrote: satria Brama Kumbara kemana ya hehehebahasanya itu suka Italiano segala..nongol lagi kalo indeks 1.000 kaleee --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ wrote: Mulai pada bilang Bull atau lagi nge Bullshit ? Templeton's Mark Mobius udah mulai BEKOAR, kalah cepet dibanding EL... hehehe Comment para bearish messanger gimana ?. Apa udah pada nyerah atau mulai mau mentung ?. Apa tunggu index jatuh baru mau mentung... hehehe... `Bull-Market' Has Begun, Templeton's Mark Mobius Says (Update1) Share | Email | Print | A A A By Paul Gordon and Chua Kong Ho March 23 (Bloomberg) -- The next bull-market rally has begun and there are bargains in every emerging market following a record slump in stocks, Templeton Asset Management Ltd.'s Mark Mobius said. You have to be careful not to miss the opportunity, said Mobius, who helps oversee about $20 billion of emerging- market assets at San Mateo, California-based Templeton. With all the negative news, there is a tendency to hold back. Citigroup Inc.'s analysts Markus Rosgen and Elaine Chu are among strategists who describe recent Asian stock gains as a temporary bear-market rally. They remain skeptical because valuations have yet to plumb the lows seen in past recessions, they said in a report today. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index has jumped 23 percent since reaching a four-year low on Oct. 27, outperforming the 2.5 percent drop in the MSCI World Index and 9.5 percent decline in the Standard Poor's 500 Index. Emerging markets made up the 10 best-performing stock benchmark indexes this year, led by the 26 percent gain for China's Shanghai Composite Index. You are going to see a lot of bouncing off the bottom because there's a tremendous amount of uncertainty in the market, Mobius, 72, said in a Bloomberg Television interview from Hong Kong. But I have a feeling we're at the bottom and now we're building a base for the next bull market. `Top Ten' Mobius correctly predicted in December that emerging markets will rebound before developed nations. In 1999, he was voted among the Top Ten Money Managers of the 20th Century in a survey by the Carson Group, and in 2006 he was included in the Top 100 Most Powerful and Influential People by Asiamoney magazine. Templeton is finding bargains in every emerging market, which are in better shape than developed economies, Mobius said. The fund is looking for companies that are cash-rich, have low debt and higher dividend yields, or those that can invest for future growth yet have cash left to pay shareholders, he said. Investors who poured $502 million into Asian equity funds over the past two weeks may lose out once the bear market rally falters, Citigroup said today in a note, citing a 30 percent drop after an initial rebound in the 1997 slump. Fidelity Investments, the world's biggest mutual fund company, is among the skeptics on predictions about the timing of the market cycle. `No Crystal Ball' No one can call the bottom in the stock market. No one managed to do it. We can't do it. We don't have a crystal ball, Tal Eloya, a portfolio manager at Fidelity Investments, said in a briefing in Seoul today. We have to think long
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[ob] Pasar Mulai Bullish Lagi?
http://bisniskeuangan.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/23/14592896/Pasar.Mulai.Bullish.Lagi Senin, 23 Maret 2009 | 14:59 WIB SHANGHAI, KOMPAS.com — Analis Templeton Asset Management Ltd Mark Mobius bilang, saat ini, bullish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi pembeli sehingga harga saham mengalami kenaikan) di pasar saham sudah dimulai. Dengan demikian, analisa ini membantah adanya ramalan bahwa anjloknya saham-saham akan terus berlanjut dalam beberapa waktu ke depan. Analis asal Citigroup Inc, Markus Rosgen dan Elaine Chu, adalah dua di antara sekian banyak analis yang mendeskripsikan bahwa kondisi pasar Asia saat ini tergolong bearish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi penjual sehingga harga saham mengalami penurunan). “Saat ini pasar saham tengah membangun fondasi hingga akhirnya mengalami bullish. Anda harus berhati-hati agar tidak melewatkan kesempatan itu. Dengan seluruh berita negatif, ada tendensi untuk menahan kembali,” ujar Mobius. Dia mengatakan, dana tersebut banyak ngendon di emerging market yang memiliki prospek lebih cerah dibanding negara-negara maju. Pernyataan Mobius itu bukan tanpa alasan. Ada beberapa hal yang dijadikan pertimbangan. Di antaranya, MSCI Emerging Markets Index telah mengalami kenaikan sebesar 23 persen sejak menyentuh level terendah dalam empat tahun pada 27 Oktober lalu. Kenaikan di emerging market mampu melampaui kenaikan MSCI World Index sebesar 2,5 persen. Selain itu, emerging market berhasil meraih sepuluh indeks acuan dengan performa terbaik tahun ini, dengan Shanghai Composite Index milik China berada di posisi teratas dengan kenaikan 26 persen. Dalam interview di televisi Bloomberg di Hongkong, Mobius mengatakan, saat ini Templeton tengah mencari perusahaan yang memiliki likuiditas yang tinggi, utang rendah, dan yield dividen yang lumayan tinggi pula. “Kami memang tengah mencari perusahaan yang dapat dijadikan investasi masa depan dan memiliki dana cukup untuk dibayarkan kepada pemegang saham,” jelasnya. (Barratut Taqiyyah/Kontan) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ob] Pak JT : ISAT
Pak JT, volume ISAT hari ini besar...tolong reviewnya Pak. Thanks
[ob] UNTR
Pak JT, Kalo UNTR next target berapa ya setelah 6100. Hr ini ga. Monitor n dah pasang sell di 6150, tadi liat sudah done. So kalo close di berapa boleh masuk lagi? Thx ND B Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Cumi Cabe Ijo cumie...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 07:53:02 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] It's Komoday! Moga-moga nular ke Jakarta nih! Australian Resource Shares Rise; Japan Futures Fall on Earnings By Masaki Kondo March 23 (Bloomberg) -- Australian resource shares advanced as higher oil and metal prices lifted producers’ earnings prospects. Japan’s stock futures fell on concern earnings will deteriorate further. http://mobile.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2065100sid=amxYj0nYt7f8 -- WARNING: Cumi-cumi mengandung 1,170mg kolesterol per 10 gr, sedangkan daging ayam tanpa kulit hanya 50mg saja. + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[ob] BISI DB...
Dear Senior OB, pada 2007/07/23 ada peningkatan volume. Salah satunya DB. Sekarang dilepas tanpa beli. Salam...mungkin salah maklum ...nubie --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, sulistyo_winarto sulistyo_wina...@... wrote: Mbah, JT, Senior OB... dulu BISI AR kiri di 900 nggak ada yang jemput. sekarang malah dikerek Naiknya cepat namun turunnya lambat. Ada comment ? Salam
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, iwan jalal jxi...@... wrote: Terima kasih banyak ya pak JT . From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 23 March, 2009 10:55:53 Subject: RE: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR . 10.52 wib.., JSMR pas di support fibo 61.8%.., volume melonjak di level tsb, this confirms 850-860 as a solid rock supportâ¦, sekarang kita tinggal tunggu signal pembalikan arahnya. JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of iwan jalal Sent: 23 Maret 2009 10:15 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR . pak JT, mohon kasih gambaran tentang JSMR? suuport kuatnya di berapa yah? tq From:rangga_the_demon rangga_the_demon@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, 23 March, 2009 10:04:08 Subject: [ob] TRUB.??? jurus tangan buntung...?? ?? CI. . !!! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2017 - Release Date: 03/22/09 17:51:00
[ob] HANS-AMTA SWING TRADING GOES TO SURABAYA - Swing Trader Only
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Re: [ob] Pak JT: Bisi?
Tadi iseng beli di 1.350 terus stop loss di 1.300rugi sih tapi ngak apa² namanya juga belajar. Kalau ambil hikmahnya untung pasang stop loss di 1.300. Thanks Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:01:24 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] Pak JT: Bisi? Terus terang saya ngga pay attention ke BISI Bu, barusan sih sempet saya intip sekilas, memang ada signal reversal yg cukup kuat, tapi saya curiga BD lagi nge'gambar chart.., kita harus lihat pake mikroskop dan dipelajari dgn seksama baru bisa kelihatan 'maunya' apa.., Tapi buat saya sih kalau kita ragu sebaiknya dihindari aja., mending mempelajari saham yg lain aja deh., banyak yg jauh lebih menarik dari BISI.., maaf buat BISI lover, bukan merendahkan, semata-mata hanya karena ragu dan banyak pilihan lain yg jauh lebih sexy.. JT From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Meiliany Halim Sent: 23 Maret 2009 14:43 To: obrolan-bandar Subject: [ob] Pak JT: Bisi? Pak JT, Kalo dilihat posisi sekarang, BISI bisa turun lebih dalam lagi gak? gimana kalo candle jadi merah dan vold sebesar itu? thanks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2017 - Release Date: 3/22/2009 5:51 PM
Bls: [ob] Pasar Mulai Bullish Lagi?
kalau ga salah Mobius tertarik ama UNSP via templeton, udah deal blum ya ?? serius itu pernah ada di milis cuma lupa kapan.. Dario Amran --- Pada Sen, 23/3/09, Hendri Cendra Arcan han...@gmail.com menulis: Dari: Hendri Cendra Arcan han...@gmail.com Topik: [ob] Pasar Mulai Bullish Lagi? Kepada: obrolan-bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Tanggal: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009, 3:29 PM http://bisniskeuangan.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/23/14592896/Pasar.Mulai.Bullish.Lagi Senin, 23 Maret 2009 | 14:59 WIB SHANGHAI, KOMPAS.com — Analis Templeton Asset Management Ltd Mark Mobius bilang, saat ini, bullish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi pembeli sehingga harga saham mengalami kenaikan) di pasar saham sudah dimulai. Dengan demikian, analisa ini membantah adanya ramalan bahwa anjloknya saham-saham akan terus berlanjut dalam beberapa waktu ke depan. Analis asal Citigroup Inc, Markus Rosgen dan Elaine Chu, adalah dua di antara sekian banyak analis yang mendeskripsikan bahwa kondisi pasar Asia saat ini tergolong bearish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi penjual sehingga harga saham mengalami penurunan). “Saat ini pasar saham tengah membangun fondasi hingga akhirnya mengalami bullish. Anda harus berhati-hati agar tidak melewatkan kesempatan itu. Dengan seluruh berita negatif, ada tendensi untuk menahan kembali,” ujar Mobius. Dia mengatakan, dana tersebut banyak ngendon di emerging market yang memiliki prospek lebih cerah dibanding negara-negara maju. Pernyataan Mobius itu bukan tanpa alasan. Ada beberapa hal yang dijadikan pertimbangan. Di antaranya, MSCI Emerging Markets Index telah mengalami kenaikan sebesar 23 persen sejak menyentuh level terendah dalam empat tahun pada 27 Oktober lalu. Kenaikan di emerging market mampu melampaui kenaikan MSCI World Index sebesar 2,5 persen. Selain itu, emerging market berhasil meraih sepuluh indeks acuan dengan performa terbaik tahun ini, dengan Shanghai Composite Index milik China berada di posisi teratas dengan kenaikan 26 persen. Dalam interview di televisi Bloomberg di Hongkong, Mobius mengatakan, saat ini Templeton tengah mencari perusahaan yang memiliki likuiditas yang tinggi, utang rendah, dan yield dividen yang lumayan tinggi pula. “Kami memang tengah mencari perusahaan yang dapat dijadikan investasi masa depan dan memiliki dana cukup untuk dibayarkan kepada pemegang saham,” jelasnya. (Barratut Taqiyyah/Kontan) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang! http://id.messenger.yahoo.com/invite/
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
PTBA vol juga banyak pak tapi harga tdk bergeming dari 6850...nah lho hehe UNTR memang sdh cenderung break out pak JT? vol kurang besar... 2009/3/23 jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com, iwan jalal jxi...@... wrote: Terima kasih banyak ya pak JT . From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 23 March, 2009 10:55:53 Subject: RE: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR . 10.52 wib.., JSMR pas di support fibo 61.8%.., volume melonjak di level tsb, this confirms 850-860 as a solid rock support…, sekarang kita tinggal tunggu signal pembalikan arahnya. JT From:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of iwan jalal Sent: 23 Maret 2009 10:15 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR . pak JT, mohon kasih gambaran tentang JSMR? suuport kuatnya di berapa yah? tq From:rangga_the_demon rangga_the_demon@ yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, 23 March, 2009 10:04:08 Subject: [ob] TRUB.??? jurus tangan buntung...?? ?? CI. . !!! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.24/2017 - Release Date: 03/22/09 17:51:00
Re: [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Saham dan targetnya
* Iya dunk Jul, time frame-nya mana Say...? [?][?][?] * 2009/3/23 tora kopitorab...@gmail.com syeeet dah,,, kasih time frame nya dong pak, gw juga mau nih, naik 100% gitu loh ;) - Original Message - *From:* Cenayank Saham cenayank_sa...@yahoo.com *To:* Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Cc:* Saham sa...@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Monday, March 23, 2009 2:16 PM *Subject:* [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Saham dan targetnya FYI.. SAHAM + Support dan Resisten Target yang terlihat : PTBA -- 7000 -- 9400 TINS -- 1090 -- 2000 SMCB -- 530/540 -- 910 TLKM -- 6500 -- 8400 UNSP -- 285/305 -- 1170 BLTA -- 500 -- 1590 ANTM -- 1100/1120 -- 2325 BBRI -- 4100/4250 -- 5450 BMRI -- 1820 -- 2650 BBCA -- 2800 -- 2950/2975 -- 3450/3600 INDF -- 980 -- 1820 Salam, JH -- Firefox 3http://sg.rd.yahoo.com/id/search/firefox/mail/signature/*http://downloads.yahoo.com/id/firefox/: Lebih Cepat, Lebih Aman, Dapat Disesuaikan dan Gratis. 360.gif
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
dari kemaren OD buang-2 terus. hmmm beneran gak yah? hehehe +++ ihsg 1401 mo cuan masih HOLD embah! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
Dana kampanye lagi?? hmmm..., I wonder --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mo Cuan syarif...@... wrote: dari kemaren OD buang-2 terus. hmmm beneran gak yah? hehehe +++ ihsg 1401 mo cuan masih HOLD embah! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, jsxtrader jsxtra...@... wrote: From: jsxtrader jsxtra...@... Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT
RE: [ob] Pasar Mulai Bullish Lagi?
Elaine Sui-nya OB kan kerja di Citigroup juga. Apa dia sama dengan Elaine Chu di berita ini? Regards, Yudizz Send from My BlackBearish powerred by AXIS, GSM Yang Baik --- original message --- From: Hendri Cendra Arcan han...@gmail.com Subject: [ob] Pasar Mulai Bullish Lagi? Date: 23rd March 2009 Time: 3:35:30 pm http://bisniskeuangan.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/23/14592896/Pasar.Mulai.Bullish.Lagi Senin, 23 Maret 2009 | 14:59 WIB SHANGHAI, KOMPAS.com — Analis Templeton Asset Management Ltd Mark Mobius bilang, saat ini, bullish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi pembeli sehingga harga saham mengalami kenaikan) di pasar saham sudah dimulai. Dengan demikian, analisa ini membantah adanya ramalan bahwa anjloknya saham-saham akan terus berlanjut dalam beberapa waktu ke depan. Analis asal Citigroup Inc, Markus Rosgen dan Elaine Chu, adalah dua di antara sekian banyak analis yang mendeskripsikan bahwa kondisi pasar Asia saat ini tergolong bearish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi penjual sehingga harga saham mengalami penurunan). “Saat ini pasar saham tengah membangun fondasi hingga akhirnya mengalami bullish. Anda harus berhati-hati agar tidak melewatkan kesempatan itu. Dengan seluruh berita negatif, ada tendensi untuk menahan kembali,” ujar Mobius. Dia mengatakan, dana tersebut banyak ngendon di emerging market yang memiliki prospek lebih cerah dibanding negara-negara maju. Pernyataan Mobius itu bukan tanpa alasan. Ada beberapa hal yang dijadikan pertimbangan. Di antaranya, MSCI Emerging Markets Index telah mengalami kenaikan sebesar 23 persen sejak menyentuh level terendah dalam empat tahun pada 27 Oktober lalu. Kenaikan di emerging market mampu melampaui kenaikan MSCI World Index sebesar 2,5 persen. Selain itu, emerging market berhasil meraih sepuluh indeks acuan dengan performa terbaik tahun ini, dengan Shanghai Composite Index milik China berada di posisi teratas dengan kenaikan 26 persen. Dalam interview di televisi Bloomberg di Hongkong, Mobius mengatakan, saat ini Templeton tengah mencari perusahaan yang memiliki likuiditas yang tinggi, utang rendah, dan yield dividen yang lumayan tinggi pula. “Kami memang tengah mencari perusahaan yang dapat dijadikan investasi masa depan dan memiliki dana cukup untuk dibayarkan kepada pemegang saham,” jelasnya. (Barratut Taqiyyah/Kontan) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [ob] Pasar Mulai Bullish Lagi?
Org nya itu2 juga kali bos Citi di bail out, Elaine dapet bonus juga gak? 2009/3/23 Yudizz y_d...@mail2web.com: Elaine Sui-nya OB kan kerja di Citigroup juga. Apa dia sama dengan Elaine Chu di berita ini? Regards, Yudizz Send from My BlackBearish powerred by AXIS, GSM Yang Baik --- original message --- From: Hendri Cendra Arcan han...@gmail.com Subject: [ob] Pasar Mulai Bullish Lagi? Date: 23rd March 2009 Time: 3:35:30 pm http://bisniskeuangan.kompas.com/read/xml/2009/03/23/14592896/Pasar.Mulai.Bullish.Lagi Senin, 23 Maret 2009 | 14:59 WIB SHANGHAI, KOMPAS.com — Analis Templeton Asset Management Ltd Mark Mobius bilang, saat ini, bullish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi pembeli sehingga harga saham mengalami kenaikan) di pasar saham sudah dimulai. Dengan demikian, analisa ini membantah adanya ramalan bahwa anjloknya saham-saham akan terus berlanjut dalam beberapa waktu ke depan. Analis asal Citigroup Inc, Markus Rosgen dan Elaine Chu, adalah dua di antara sekian banyak analis yang mendeskripsikan bahwa kondisi pasar Asia saat ini tergolong bearish (kondisi pasar yang secara umum didominasi penjual sehingga harga saham mengalami penurunan). “Saat ini pasar saham tengah membangun fondasi hingga akhirnya mengalami bullish. Anda harus berhati-hati agar tidak melewatkan kesempatan itu. Dengan seluruh berita negatif, ada tendensi untuk menahan kembali,” ujar Mobius. Dia mengatakan, dana tersebut banyak ngendon di emerging market yang memiliki prospek lebih cerah dibanding negara-negara maju. Pernyataan Mobius itu bukan tanpa alasan. Ada beberapa hal yang dijadikan pertimbangan. Di antaranya, MSCI Emerging Markets Index telah mengalami kenaikan sebesar 23 persen sejak menyentuh level terendah dalam empat tahun pada 27 Oktober lalu. Kenaikan di emerging market mampu melampaui kenaikan MSCI World Index sebesar 2,5 persen. Selain itu, emerging market berhasil meraih sepuluh indeks acuan dengan performa terbaik tahun ini, dengan Shanghai Composite Index milik China berada di posisi teratas dengan kenaikan 26 persen. Dalam interview di televisi Bloomberg di Hongkong, Mobius mengatakan, saat ini Templeton tengah mencari perusahaan yang memiliki likuiditas yang tinggi, utang rendah, dan yield dividen yang lumayan tinggi pula. “Kami memang tengah mencari perusahaan yang dapat dijadikan investasi masa depan dan memiliki dana cukup untuk dibayarkan kepada pemegang saham,” jelasnya. (Barratut Taqiyyah/Kontan) + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:obrolan-bandar-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
sepanjang penglihatan saya sih satu harian JSMR aggresive skali yg hajar kanan seakan2 perang terus si OD buang ga berhenti2, trus ada aja institusi yg makan kanan terus apakah ini teknik mengocok2 vol seperti yg dikatakan pak oentoeng? atau beneran mau terbang? speculative entry sih 860 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxtrader jsxtra...@... wrote: Dana kampanye lagi?? hmmm..., I wonder --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mo Cuan syarif_ms@ wrote: dari kemaren OD buang-2 terus. hmmm beneran gak yah? hehehe +++ ihsg 1401 mo cuan masih HOLD embah! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ wrote: From: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
jujur aja si klo yg makan kanan bener2 makan saya lumayan yakin tidak akan turun karena dari segi kapital nanti ' value ' uangnya akan ikut turun. mungkin 1-2 hari ini akan terdengar good news / rumours dari JSMR untuk membuat jurus Sell On News --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mo Cuan syarif...@... wrote: biasanya kalo volume udah segede gaban gini mau naek mau turun gampang tapi skr mah tergantung yang mau naekin ... apa beneran jsmr mau duluan? apa gak banking dulu...trus consumer dulu...baru property ama infra coba aja liat kemaren udah saham-2 banking...trus liat produsen indomie di consumer..nah keselingan como dulu deh liat aja bum-bum dan cpo's...nah property+infra baru nyusul... kayaknya sih...gak tau juga..terserah BD aja deh... mo cuan seringnya dikibulin BD mulu wekekekek --- On Mon, 3/23/09,
[ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
*+116pts since Mar 4th. 184pts more to go. Do you think we can make it until June?* * Elaine** * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *Repost, to make things REALLY CLEAR. (lolz). Now tell me who's the boss now..? [?] Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM Subject: Fwd: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Repost.. just to make things clear. Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *I have my financials back two days ago (I said 'my turn', that'd be the lowest for financial sector). Do not short financials or you will lose. To Embah: Why didn't you answer my question about the bandarmology thing.. Next target for IDX, +3xx pts, June 2009. Picks: Finance (banks) and Commodities (coal/agriculture/metals). Short gold USD. See you on June. Elaine mau istirahat saja dulu dari OB, if Sima/Oentoeng post lagi, just tell them BLAH! hee [?]Trading tanya saja ke jsxtrader, he's the man. GBU all. Elaine* * * 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Gak lah…, distribusi gimana.., wong kuat kanan kok…, coba aja dicek volumenya…., mostly positive volume. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dho© *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 16:02 *To:* Milis OB *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Pak JT, melihat di 2575-2600 ini bisa diartikan distribusi atau mbuat base sebelum naik lagi ya pak? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:58:51 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Tuh dah ane usir ... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:53:46 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Bentar, ane bakar menyan dulu ... Biar kabur... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:51:31 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Ada setan di 2600 pak JT bd bbca punya pawang setan gak ya 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com CAKEP.., move as expected… HOLD…, pasang trailing stop ya.., selanjutnya terserah anda, saya Cuma nganterin sampe sini…. Hehe… Happy Cuan !! JT *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 15:23 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BBCA BBCA – jika Close diatas 2500, test gap FAIL…, congrat buat yg ikut Trading Gap..., anda bisa HOLD…, jangan lupa trailing stop. JT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1982 - Release Date: 03/03/09 16:09:00 349.gif347.gif
[ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
i thinks we can make it on MAY May be yess May be nooo just kidding YES WE CAN --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *+116pts since Mar 4th. 184pts more to go. Do you think we can make it until June?* * Elaine** * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: *Repost, to make things REALLY CLEAR. (lolz). Now tell me who's the boss now..? [?] Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@... Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM Subject: Fwd: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Repost.. just to make things clear. Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@... Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *I have my financials back two days ago (I said 'my turn', that'd be the lowest for financial sector). Do not short financials or you will lose. To Embah: Why didn't you answer my question about the bandarmology thing.. Next target for IDX, +3xx pts, June 2009. Picks: Finance (banks) and Commodities (coal/agriculture/metals). Short gold USD. See you on June. Elaine mau istirahat saja dulu dari OB, if Sima/Oentoeng post lagi, just tell them BLAH! hee [?]Trading tanya saja ke jsxtrader, he's the man. GBU all. Elaine* * * 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@... Gak lah , distribusi gimana.., wong kuat kanan kok , coba aja dicek volumenya ., mostly positive volume. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dho© *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 16:02 *To:* Milis OB *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Pak JT, melihat di 2575-2600 ini bisa diartikan distribusi atau mbuat base sebelum naik lagi ya pak? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT -- *From*: JsxTrader jsxtra...@... *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:58:51 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Tuh dah ane usir ... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: JsxTrader jsxtra...@... *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:53:46 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Bentar, ane bakar menyan dulu ... Biar kabur... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:51:31 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Ada setan di 2600 pak JT bd bbca punya pawang setan gak ya 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@... CAKEP.., move as expected HOLD , pasang trailing stop ya.., selanjutnya terserah anda, saya Cuma nganterin sampe sini . Hehe Happy Cuan !! JT *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 15:23 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BBCA BBCA jika Close diatas 2500, test gap FAIL , congrat buat yg ikut Trading Gap..., anda bisa HOLD , jangan lupa trailing stop. JT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1982 - Release Date: 03/03/09 16:09:00
[ob] Re: [obrolan-bandar] Alasan Penurunan BISI-Midsummer Lepas Saham BISI
Ekonomi 23/03/2009 - 15:42 Midsummer Lepas Saham BISI Mosi Retnani Fajarwati *INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Midsummer Limited kembali melepas kepemilikan sahamnya dari PT BISI International Tbk (BISI) lewat pasar. * Kami menjualnya atas alasan investasi, ungkap Direktur Midsummer Limited, Lau Aik Siong, dalam keterangan tertulisnya kepada otoritas bursa, Senin (23/3). Adapun jumlah saham yang dilepas Midsummer Limited sebanyak 10 juta unit dengan harga Rp 1.910 per unit. Pelepasan saham itu setara dengan 0,33% dari total saham yang ada, ungkap Siong. Proses penjualan saham BISI dilakukan pada tanggal 10 Maret 2009 di lantai bursa efek Indonesia. Sebelumnya, Midsummer Limited juga pernah melepas kepemilikan sahamnya di BISI pada 5 Maret lalu sebanyak 2.175.500 unit dengan harga per lembarnya Rp 2.111 per unit atau setara dengan Rp 19,1 miliar. Saat itu, Midsummer melepas sahamnya atas alasan yang sama yaitu investasi. Midsummer Limited merupakan perusahaan yang berkedudukan di Republik Seychelles. [cms] Pada 20 Maret 2009 11:20, Daniel SR daniels...@gmail.com menulis: Alasan CLSA Atas Penurunan Saham BISI BISI mencatat penjualan pada Jan-Feb09 meliputi benih jagung sebanyak 1.500 MT dan beberapa ratus ton benih beras. Dibawah ini merupakan comment dari CLSA terkait penurunan sahamnya yakni: 1. Para Petani tidak selalu beraksi secara rasional. Petani mulai tidak menggunakan benih hybrid setelah harga komoditas jatuh 2. BISI menaikkan harga jual bibitnya di 4Q08. 3. Penjualan benih di toko pertanian oleh BISI disinyalir sangat lambat. 4. BISI harus menurunkan harga jual benihnya untuk menghindari petani beralih ke benih konvensional. 5. Volume penjalan akan membaik pada 2H09 seiring petani menyesuaikan diri dengan penurunan harga komoditas. Broker CLSA menurunkan rekomendasi untuk BISI menjadi 'SELL' dari sebelumnya 'BUY' dengan Target Price (TP) Rp1000. (clsa/fz)
Re: [ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
Too fast El A retreat very soon is inevitable On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *+116pts since Mar 4th. 184pts more to go. Do you think we can make it until June?* * Elaine* * * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *Repost, to make things REALLY CLEAR. (lolz). Now tell me who's the boss now..? [?] Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM Subject: Fwd: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Repost.. just to make things clear. Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *I have my financials back two days ago (I said 'my turn', that'd be the lowest for financial sector). Do not short financials or you will lose. To Embah: Why didn't you answer my question about the bandarmology thing.. Next target for IDX, +3xx pts, June 2009. Picks: Finance (banks) and Commodities (coal/agriculture/metals). Short gold USD. See you on June. Elaine mau istirahat saja dulu dari OB, if Sima/Oentoeng post lagi, just tell them BLAH! hee [?]Trading tanya saja ke jsxtrader, he's the man. GBU all. Elaine* * * 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Gak lah…, distribusi gimana.., wong kuat kanan kok…, coba aja dicek volumenya…., mostly positive volume. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dho© *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 16:02 *To:* Milis OB *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Pak JT, melihat di 2575-2600 ini bisa diartikan distribusi atau mbuat base sebelum naik lagi ya pak? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:58:51 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Tuh dah ane usir ... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:53:46 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Bentar, ane bakar menyan dulu ... Biar kabur... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:51:31 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Ada setan di 2600 pak JT bd bbca punya pawang setan gak ya 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com CAKEP.., move as expected… HOLD…, pasang trailing stop ya.., selanjutnya terserah anda, saya Cuma nganterin sampe sini…. Hehe… Happy Cuan !! JT *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 15:23 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BBCA BBCA – jika Close diatas 2500, test gap FAIL…, congrat buat yg ikut Trading Gap..., anda bisa HOLD…, jangan lupa trailing stop. JT 349.gif347.gif
Re: [ob] Etrading udah jalan
BEI udah bubar, HOTS baru jalan hihihi, cucian de Untung ada IPOT pelipur lara On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:24 AM, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: Etrading udah jalan Dari BEI udah lancar...
Re: [ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
*I can wait [?] Elaine** * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.comwrote: Too fast El A retreat very soon is inevitable On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *+116pts since Mar 4th. 184pts more to go. Do you think we can make it until June?* * Elaine* * * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *Repost, to make things REALLY CLEAR. (lolz). Now tell me who's the boss now..? [?] Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM Subject: Fwd: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Repost.. just to make things clear. Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *I have my financials back two days ago (I said 'my turn', that'd be the lowest for financial sector). Do not short financials or you will lose. To Embah: Why didn't you answer my question about the bandarmology thing.. Next target for IDX, +3xx pts, June 2009. Picks: Finance (banks) and Commodities (coal/agriculture/metals). Short gold USD. See you on June. Elaine mau istirahat saja dulu dari OB, if Sima/Oentoeng post lagi, just tell them BLAH! hee [?]Trading tanya saja ke jsxtrader, he's the man. GBU all. Elaine* * * 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Gak lah…, distribusi gimana.., wong kuat kanan kok…, coba aja dicek volumenya…., mostly positive volume. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dho© *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 16:02 *To:* Milis OB *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Pak JT, melihat di 2575-2600 ini bisa diartikan distribusi atau mbuat base sebelum naik lagi ya pak? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:58:51 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Tuh dah ane usir ... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:53:46 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Bentar, ane bakar menyan dulu ... Biar kabur... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:51:31 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Ada setan di 2600 pak JT bd bbca punya pawang setan gak ya 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com CAKEP.., move as expected… HOLD…, pasang trailing stop ya.., selanjutnya terserah anda, saya Cuma nganterin sampe sini…. Hehe… Happy Cuan !! JT *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 15:23 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BBCA BBCA – jika Close diatas 2500, test gap FAIL…, congrat buat yg ikut Trading Gap..., anda bisa HOLD…, jangan lupa trailing stop. JT 349.gif343.gif347.gif
Re: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now........
*M!!! Elaine** * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:28 PM, lfcbej lfc...@yahoo.co.id wrote: Saya stop trading sejak Desember 08 dan hari ini saya merasa sangat bahagia Adakah members OB yang seperti saya? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
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[ob] Lagipula, di tengah kondisi krisis keuangan global, nasabah harus berhati-hati berinvestasi di pasar modal
?? Nasabah Danareksa Bukan Urusan Bapepam Susan Silaban Fuad Rahmany *INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Kasus yang menimpa nasabah Danareksa Securities terkait jual-beli saham sama sekali bukan urusan Bapepam-LK. * Hal ini ditegaskan Ketua Bapepam-LK, Fuad Rahmany menyikapi pengaduan nasabah Danareksa ke kantornya. Permasalahan antara broker dan nasabah adalah urusan bilateral bukan urusan Bapepam, tegasnya. Malah, Fuad mengakui banyak perselisihan yang terjadi di pasar modal dan Bapepam tidak mengatur urusan bilatera antar keduanya. Ya selesaikan saja ke pengadilan perdata, tegas Fuad saat ditanyai pengaduan nasabah Danareksa yang bermasalah tentang jual beli saat ditemui di Bapepam, Senin (23/3). Menurut Fuad, Bapepam hanya memfasilitasi perselisihan broker dengan nasabah bukan sebagai pihak yang menyelesaikannya. Lagipula, di tengah kondisi krisis keuangan global, nasabah harus berhati-hati berinvestasi di pasar modal. [cms]
Re: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now........
Jantungan 4 bulan, bahagia sehari. Kehapus yang 4 bulan itu kaleee y On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:28 AM, lfcbej lfc...@yahoo.co.id wrote: Saya stop trading sejak Desember 08 dan hari ini saya merasa sangat bahagia Adakah members OB yang seperti saya?
Re: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya
kebetulan saya termasuk yg beruntung..saham saya sudah berhasil pindah (walaupun makan 3 minggu setelah saya isi form pindah barang dan bayar hutang)..mudah2an saham pak yudhie juga bisa cepat pindah --- On Mon, 3/23/09, q q yudhie...@yahoo.com wrote: From: q q yudhie...@yahoo.com Subject: [ob] mungkin sudah bosan dengan kasus sarijaya To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:01 AM temen temen... mungkin temen temen sudah bosan mendengar keluh kesah nasabah sekuritas. saya termasuk diantara sekian nasabah yang sampai sekarang ini masih belum jelas nasibnya ??? uang cash mungkin sudah tidak dapat diharapkan. sedangkan saham yang ada, yang walaupun sudah saya pindahkan ke sekuritas lain. tapi sampai sekarang pun, setiap kali saya tanya, jawabannya hanya... sabar ya pak...masih dalam proses... temen temen yang di sekuritas selain sarijaya mungkin sudah merasa tidak nyaman dengan posting2an tentang sarijaya. tapi... saya dan nasabah sarijaya yang lain, yang sampai saat ini merasa tertipu dengan perdagangan saham ini. jujur.. sudah mulai frustasi dengan investasi kami... sekali lagi... saya mohon maaf, apabila saya sudah membuat temen temen disini merasa tidak nyaman curahan hati saya yang sudah boleh dibilang sedikit mulai frustasi harus bagaimana caranya agar investasinya kembali. terima kasih
Re: [ob] Lagipula, di tengah kondisi krisis keuangan global, nasabah harus berhati-hati berinvestasi di pasar modal
Yg diselesaikan secara perdata itu B A P E P AM yang menyebabkan kerugian nasabah SP karena telah mem-freeze SP. Wong sebelum di FREEZE lancar2 aja tuh. Malah bisa withdraw cash dgn lancar. 2009/3/23 ruzli indeksbei3...@gmail.com: ?? Nasabah Danareksa Bukan Urusan Bapepam Susan Silaban Fuad Rahmany INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Kasus yang menimpa nasabah Danareksa Securities terkait jual-beli saham sama sekali bukan urusan Bapepam-LK. Hal ini ditegaskan Ketua Bapepam-LK, Fuad Rahmany menyikapi pengaduan nasabah Danareksa ke kantornya. Permasalahan antara broker dan nasabah adalah urusan bilateral bukan urusan Bapepam, tegasnya. Malah, Fuad mengakui banyak perselisihan yang terjadi di pasar modal dan Bapepam tidak mengatur urusan bilatera antar keduanya. Ya selesaikan saja ke pengadilan perdata, tegas Fuad saat ditanyai pengaduan nasabah Danareksa yang bermasalah tentang jual beli saat ditemui di Bapepam, Senin (23/3). Menurut Fuad, Bapepam hanya memfasilitasi perselisihan broker dengan nasabah bukan sebagai pihak yang menyelesaikannya. Lagipula, di tengah kondisi krisis keuangan global, nasabah harus berhati-hati berinvestasi di pasar modal. [cms]
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
Bukanya lock upnya, denger denger dah habis Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:51:44 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR . Dana kampanye lagi?? hmmm..., I wonder --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mo Cuan syarif...@... wrote: dari kemaren OD buang-2 terus. hmmm beneran gak yah? hehehe +++ ihsg 1401 mo cuan masih HOLD embah! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, jsxtrader jsxtra...@... wrote: From: jsxtrader jsxtra...@... Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
heran yah, padahal ini bisnis yg gak terpengaruh krisis, walo penjualan mobil turun, tetap aja jumlah mobil nambah tiap tahunnya, dan tol makin macet :D mungkin perlu ganti juragan kalee supaya lebih maknyuuusss... hehehe... temen2 sy masih banyak tuh yg pegang di harga IPO - Original Message - From: Mo Cuan To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR . dari kemaren OD buang-2 terus. hmmm beneran gak yah? hehehe +++ ihsg 1401 mo cuan masih HOLD embah! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: jsxtrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT
[ob] Re: MyLRI Video Volume Analysis (Youtube)
Pak Pengamat, saya mau tanya nih..maksud Bpk posting ini apa yah..? mau ajak diskusi atau sekedar kasih tahu ada penjelasan ttg volume di blog Anda atau ada maksud yg lain ?.Kalau mau diskusi batasin dulu topik nya biar fokus, trus harus dimengerti juga kebiasaan dari kebanyakan investor atau trader kita "main terima" apa adanya artikel-artikel dari luar sana yang mungkin itu lebih banyak pandangan subjektifnya jadi kita harus pandai-pandai memilah, karena sekilas saya lihat dari artikel-artikel tsb khususnya penggunaan indicator sangat bias sekali.Mari diskusi tapi batasin dulu pokok bahasannya, jangan posting artikel tapi habis itu gak ada faedahnya dan bisa bisa memberi interpretasi yang gak jelas.From: Pengamat Market kalipatul...@trend-traders.comTo: milis-a...@yahoogroups.comCc: sa...@yahoogroups.com; obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; research_equ...@yahoogroups.com; metastock...@yahoogroups.com; meta-n...@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com; dunia_sa...@yahoogroups.com; indotrad...@yahoogroups.comSent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:34:03 PMSubject: MyLRI Video Volume Analysis (Youtube) This post originally posted at: http://trend-traders.com/?p=570 Volume Indicator Explained The video provides a very brief introduction to trading volume. It shows how many shares have changed hands over a given period of time. It is used by traders to assess the strength of a move up or down. Low volume may also keep many traders out of a stock. Volume Indicator Explained Intro to Volume Analysis The speaker discusses the importance of trading volume and talks about how to interpret volume. He suggests that a large volume spike preceeds a move which continues in the direction of the volume surge. Intro to Volume Analysis Volume Versus Volume Spread Analysis The speaker discusses the difference between a typical volume indicator and the hawkeye volume spread analysis tool. The hawkeye volume tool measures which group of traders are actually in control of the price action in the bar. The speaker discusses how to use this proprietary trading indicator. Volume Vs Volume Spread Analysis The Secret to Analyzing Volume The speaker discusses how he uses volume analysis to help with trading the emini SP futures. He believes that volume is the most under utilized indicator out there and he uses it as a confirming indicator to help him identify high probability turning points and avoid being whipsawed. The Secret to Analyzing Volume Warmest Regards, Aditya www.trend-traders. com
Re: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now........
Me too! Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:31:08 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now *M!!! Elaine** * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 2:28 PM, lfcbej lfc...@yahoo.co.id wrote: Saya stop trading sejak Desember 08 dan hari ini saya merasa sangat bahagia Adakah members OB yang seperti saya? + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
RE: [ob] Lagipula, di tengah kondisi krisis keuangan global, nasab ah harus berhati-hati berinvestasi di pasar modal
JURUS CUCI TANGAN, Ciaaattt..!! Kalo emang udah nggak senang kita invest di BEI, bilang dong. Jangan kita dipermainkan kayak gini. NYSE dengan senang hati menerima kok. Elu yang suspend, elu yang bikin kita sengsara, giliran ditanya nasib uang efek kita kagak mau tanggung jawab. Bapepam + Fuad Rachmany = RAMPOK Regards, Yudizz Send from My BlackBearish powerred by AXIS, GSM Yang Baik --- original message --- From: ruzli indeksbei3...@gmail.com Subject: [ob] Lagipula, di tengah kondisi krisis keuangan global, nasabah harus berhati-hati berinvestasi di pasar modal Date: 23rd March 2009 Time: 4:32:04 pm ?? Nasabah Danareksa Bukan Urusan Bapepam Susan Silaban Fuad Rahmany *INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Kasus yang menimpa nasabah Danareksa Securities terkait jual-beli saham sama sekali bukan urusan Bapepam-LK. * Hal ini ditegaskan Ketua Bapepam-LK, Fuad Rahmany menyikapi pengaduan nasabah Danareksa ke kantornya. Permasalahan antara broker dan nasabah adalah urusan bilateral bukan urusan Bapepam, tegasnya. Malah, Fuad mengakui banyak perselisihan yang terjadi di pasar modal dan Bapepam tidak mengatur urusan bilatera antar keduanya. Ya selesaikan saja ke pengadilan perdata, tegas Fuad saat ditanyai pengaduan nasabah Danareksa yang bermasalah tentang jual beli saat ditemui di Bapepam, Senin (23/3). Menurut Fuad, Bapepam hanya memfasilitasi perselisihan broker dengan nasabah bukan sebagai pihak yang menyelesaikannya. Lagipula, di tengah kondisi krisis keuangan global, nasabah harus berhati-hati berinvestasi di pasar modal. [cms]
[ob] Ebook - Bagi yang suka
Ada posting Ebook berikut di forum dari member , bisa didownload - Stock Investment for Dummies - Trading Like Warren Buffet Regards Rita
Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet
FYI IPOT lancar jaya Sent from my TrueBerry® wireless device Using Indosat Matrix -Original Message- From: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:18:34 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet ada yg sudah call etrading? saya coba berkali kali ke 2553 1000, gak pernah bisa masuk waduh, semoga jangan deh, masih lebih penting trading di BEI daripada kompetisi-kompetisian internal. tapi kalo melihat securitas lain juga bermasalah, sptnya bukan dari si etrading. sayang sekali, fasilitas web dan wap trading blom berfungsi... hal etrading, aktifkan lagi dong! - Original Message - From: Antonius Effendy To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:06 PM Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet Apa kena efek e-trading kompetisi ya? Khan mulai tanggal 23 Maret 2009. Adu lagi lomba ada cepat-cepatan, apalagi market lagi plus. -- Dari: tora kopitorab...@gmail.com Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Terkirim: Senin, 23 Maret, 2009 13:57:03 Topik: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet wis, confirmed barusan nyoba pake isat, tewas juga. berarti pake 3 ISP, tewas semua ke HOTS. internet OK semua tiga2nya. - Original Message - From: Welly Octavianus To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet sama pak juga nggak bisa login --- On Mon, 3/23/09, tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com wrote: From: tora kopitorabika@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, March 23, 2009, 2:41 AM sptnya bisa di menu config nya. ada saran buat dicoba, mbah? server berapa, port berapa? rekan2 yg lain ada yg macet juga kah ? - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [ob] Re: waduh, koneksi HOTS macet HOTS baru bisa pilih server engga ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, tora kopitorabika@ ... wrote: wah, gimana ini mbah? bull dikit sudah diganggu koneksinya. udah coba pake speedy dan flash tsel, gak mau login. tp utk internetan bisa gawat -- Warnai pesan status dengan Emoticon. Sekarang bisa dengan Yahoo! Messenger baru.
Re: [ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
I Can wait forever If you say , you'll be there too Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss...! -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:29:39 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN *I can wait [?] Elaine** * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:27 PM, ::Pak_AA:: abdul.rahman.ra...@gmail.comwrote: Too fast El A retreat very soon is inevitable On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *+116pts since Mar 4th. 184pts more to go. Do you think we can make it until June?* * Elaine* * * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comwrote: *Repost, to make things REALLY CLEAR. (lolz). Now tell me who's the boss now..? [?] Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM Subject: Fwd: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Repost.. just to make things clear. Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *I have my financials back two days ago (I said 'my turn', that'd be the lowest for financial sector). Do not short financials or you will lose. To Embah: Why didn't you answer my question about the bandarmology thing.. Next target for IDX, +3xx pts, June 2009. Picks: Finance (banks) and Commodities (coal/agriculture/metals). Short gold USD. See you on June. Elaine mau istirahat saja dulu dari OB, if Sima/Oentoeng post lagi, just tell them BLAH! hee [?]Trading tanya saja ke jsxtrader, he's the man. GBU all. Elaine* * * 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Gak lah…, distribusi gimana.., wong kuat kanan kok…, coba aja dicek volumenya…., mostly positive volume. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dho© *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 16:02 *To:* Milis OB *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Pak JT, melihat di 2575-2600 ini bisa diartikan distribusi atau mbuat base sebelum naik lagi ya pak? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:58:51 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Tuh dah ane usir ... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:53:46 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Bentar, ane bakar menyan dulu ... Biar kabur... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:51:31 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Ada setan di 2600 pak JT bd bbca punya pawang setan gak ya 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com CAKEP.., move as expected… HOLD…, pasang trailing stop ya.., selanjutnya terserah anda, saya Cuma nganterin sampe sini…. Hehe… Happy Cuan !! JT *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 15:23 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BBCA BBCA – jika Close diatas 2500, test gap FAIL…, congrat buat yg ikut Trading Gap..., anda bisa HOLD…, jangan lupa trailing stop. JT 349.gif343.gif347.gif
Re: [ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN
You bet! Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:24:21 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Re: REPOST AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN *+116pts since Mar 4th. 184pts more to go. Do you think we can make it until June?* * Elaine** * On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: *Repost, to make things REALLY CLEAR. (lolz). Now tell me who's the boss now..? [?] Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM Subject: Fwd: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Repost.. just to make things clear. Elaine** * -- Forwarded message -- From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *I have my financials back two days ago (I said 'my turn', that'd be the lowest for financial sector). Do not short financials or you will lose. To Embah: Why didn't you answer my question about the bandarmology thing.. Next target for IDX, +3xx pts, June 2009. Picks: Finance (banks) and Commodities (coal/agriculture/metals). Short gold USD. See you on June. Elaine mau istirahat saja dulu dari OB, if Sima/Oentoeng post lagi, just tell them BLAH! hee [?]Trading tanya saja ke jsxtrader, he's the man. GBU all. Elaine* * * 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Gak lah…, distribusi gimana.., wong kuat kanan kok…, coba aja dicek volumenya…., mostly positive volume. JT *From:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *dho© *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 16:02 *To:* Milis OB *Subject:* Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Pak JT, melihat di 2575-2600 ini bisa diartikan distribusi atau mbuat base sebelum naik lagi ya pak? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by INDOSAT -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:58:51 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Tuh dah ane usir ... Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:53:46 + *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Bentar, ane bakar menyan dulu ... Biar kabur... Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -- *From*: \::Pak_AA:\: *Date*: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 09:51:31 +0100 *To*: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BBCA Ada setan di 2600 pak JT bd bbca punya pawang setan gak ya 2009/3/4 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com CAKEP.., move as expected… HOLD…, pasang trailing stop ya.., selanjutnya terserah anda, saya Cuma nganterin sampe sini…. Hehe… Happy Cuan !! JT *From:*obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com [mailto: obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *JsxTrader *Sent:* 04 Maret 2009 15:23 *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; my_...@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* [obrolan-bandar] BBCA BBCA – jika Close diatas 2500, test gap FAIL…, congrat buat yg ikut Trading Gap..., anda bisa HOLD…, jangan lupa trailing stop. JT No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.7/1982 - Release Date: 03/03/09 16:09:00 349.gif347.gif
Re: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now........
I am very happy too, actually hampir desperate nungguin BANKING:IJ Thanks to Mbah, all Seniore especially to ELAINE ... you're the best lah ! From: lfcbej lfc...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 14:28:04 Subject: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now Saya stop trading sejak Desember 08 dan hari ini saya merasa sangat bahagia Adakah members OB yang seperti saya? Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you#39;ve always wanted before someone else does! http://mail.promotions.yahoo.com/newdomains/aa/
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
besok pasti ada beritanya: Ketua Partai Jeruk Purut jual jalan tol untuk sewa artis dangdut buat kampanye hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsxtrader jsxtra...@... wrote: Dana kampanye lagi?? hmmm..., I wonder --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Mo Cuan syarif_ms@ wrote: dari kemaren OD buang-2 terus. hmmm beneran gak yah? hehehe +++ ihsg 1401 mo cuan masih HOLD embah! --- On Mon, 3/23/09, jsxtrader jsxtrader@ wrote: From: jsxtrader jsxtrader@ Volume Dasyat Tuh Boss..., tapi harga gak bergerak jauh ya?, hmmm.., sam ting wong..., tapi ngga apa, at least kita tau 860 bener2 solid rock.., so far market bisa menyerap dengan baik, mirip-mirip ptba waktu di 6500'an nih. JT
Re: [ob] Ebook - Bagi yang suka
Download dimana bu rita?ga ada alamatnya Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: Rita Pardede call...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 03:03:58 To: sa...@yahoogroups.com Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ob] Ebook - Bagi yang suka Ada posting Ebook berikut di forum dari member , bisa didownload - Stock Investment for Dummies - Trading Like Warren Buffet Regards Rita
Re: [ob] I'm Elaine's follower and I'm happy now == I'm NOT
EL : Even I'm not your follower, I really appreciate for your suggestion and info. Your word is really your BOND. Keep posting di Waroeng Mbah. GBU.
[ob] IPOT, Harga Closing Ngaco
Dear all, Apa ada yang mengalami seperti saya? IPOT saya harga closingnya ngaco semua. Di monitor saya close IHSG 1382, PTBA 6800, JSMR 840, PGAS 2025, dll. Agak kaget sih, soalnya ini baru buka. Tadi seharian nggak sempat buka IPOT. Saya cek harga closing di RTI kok beda ya. Regards, Yudizz
Re: [ob] minta ulasan JSMR .
biasanya kalo volume udah segede gaban gini mau naek mau turun gampang tapi skr mah tergantung yang mau naekin ... apa beneran jsmr mau duluan? apa gak banking dulu...trus consumer dulu...baru property ama infra coba aja liat kemaren udah saham-2 banking...trus liat produsen indomie di consumer..nah keselingan como dulu deh liat aja bum-bum dan cpo's...nah property+infra baru nyusul... kayaknya sih...gak tau juga..terserah BD aja deh... mo cuan seringnya dikibulin BD mulu wekekekek --- On Mon, 3/23/09,
