Re: [OM Cooker] Deployment: Kahinah

[Robert Xu]

Like an oauth2 endpoint or something similar?

If you have the details, I'll get around to adding it.. if it's the
standard authorization endpoint, I'm less inclined to use that, because
Kahinah doesn't take passwords...

On 16 Nov 2016 4:03 am, "His Shadow"  wrote:

> Btw, I should've mentioned it sooner, but abf exposes an api point that
> can authorize a user that is registered there, maybe we should've used
> that...
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Re: [OM Cooker] Deployment: Kahinah

[Robert Xu]

This deployment has been completed successfully.

On 16 November 2016 at 00:48, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A deployment is being executed for Kahinah to switch the login
> provider from Persona to Github.



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[OM Cooker] Deployment: Kahinah

[Robert Xu]

A deployment is being executed for Kahinah to switch the login
provider from Persona to Github.

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[OM Cooker] Nouveau with Nvidia Pascal?

[Robert Xu]

Hi all,

Has anyone tried Nouveau with the Nvidia GTX 1000 series?
(Curious because openSUSE split out Nouveau due to issues with Plasma
-- https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2016-11/msg00027.html)

(I probably should download a Lx3 spin and give it a try, given that I
have a GTX 1070)

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Re: [OM Cooker] Kernel 4.8.1

[Robert Xu]

No news is good news, right?

4.8.1 looks okay to me, and 2 other people have ok'ed it, so I'll
push: http://jasper.openmandriva.org:23312/builds/69

On 15 October 2016 at 10:49, Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin
 wrote:
> me too
>
> 2016-10-15 16:55 GMT+03:00 Chris Tanner :
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Any news on kernel 4.8.1? I have been running it for 2 days without any
>> problems.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris
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[OM Cooker] om-qa-alerts is working now

[Robert Xu]

The list is working now. Please don't post to there unless you're
bugzilla-daemon or kahinah.

If you want to subscribe, here is the link:
http://ml.openmandriva.org/mailman/listinfo/om-qa-alerts_ml.openmandriva.org

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[OM Cooker] Fwd: [om-qa-alerts] [Bug 2] This bug is for testing if Bugzilla functionality works okay

[Robert Xu]

this should be working again


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Subject: [om-qa-alerts] [Bug 2] This bug is for testing if Bugzilla
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Cc: "issues.openmandriva" 


Comment # 38 on bug 2 from OM Infra Team

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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-qa-alerts] [om-qa] Ping

[Robert Xu]

Yeah, because I've realised that Kahinah has stopped sending email alerts.
And that goes over SMTP too via OpenMandriva's email server. If that were
to go over my email server, I wonder if it would start working.

On 9 Oct 2016 1:05 pm, "Ben Bullard via OM-QA-Alerts" <
om-qa-ale...@ml.openmandriva.org> wrote:

> So we just need to find what is blocking Bugzilla from sending e-mails to
> om-qa-alerts?
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>
> On 10/09/2016 11:58 AM, Robert Xu wrote:
>
> Pong, yes om-qa-alerts is working.
>
> On 9 Oct 2016 12:42 pm, "Ben Bullard via OM-QA-Alerts" <
> om-qa-ale...@ml.openmandriva.org> wrote:
>
>> Pong
>>
>> --
>>
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Re: [OM Cooker] Need help with bugzilla admin.

[Robert Xu]

Hmm, guess that's not working. Okay. Guess it's the openmandriva.org email
server.

On 6 Oct 2016 5:43 am, "Jean-Claude Vanier" <jclvan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Switched to smtp. Let's see how it goes.
> What is strange however is that I normally received notifications for
> other "products" (other than cooker).
>
> 2016-10-05 22:23 GMT+02:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
> > It's using local sendmail. So let's just force it to use our smtp server
> and
> > see if that solves it.
> >
> >
> > On 5 Oct 2016 2:18 am, "Raphaël Jadot" <r...@hodo.fr> wrote:
> >>
> >> This, or a local sendmail program can not sent to @ml.openmandriva.org,
> >> and we need to configure bugzilla to use smtp.
> >>
> >> 05.10.2016, 03:24, "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com>:
> >> > So basically, we've identified it as "accounts @openmandriva.org
> cannot
> >> > send to @ml.openmandriva.org", it looks like?
> >> >
> >> > On 4 Oct 2016 6:36 pm, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> >> Yep, you're correct about both.
> >> >>
> >> >> Ben Bullard ben79  OpenMandriva-QA Team
> >> >>
> >> >> On 10/03/2016 11:46 PM, Robert Xu wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> You don't need a user account for that on Bugzilla. It's a global
> >> >>> watcher... Interestingly enough, I don't think the email server can
> send to
> >> >>> our mailing lists...
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On 4 Oct 2016 00:38, "Anurag Bhandari" <a...@anuragbhandari.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Hi Ben. You created user account in Bugzilla using the new ML's
> email
> >> >>>> address?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Ben Bullard <benbullar...@cox.net>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> I created a user account for
> >> >>>>> 'om-qa-notificati...@ml.openmandriva.org' now i need to remove
> it but don't
> >> >>>>> yet see how.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> -- Ben Bullard ben79  OpenMandriva-QA Team
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> May the Source be with you
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Re: [OM Cooker] Need help with bugzilla admin.

[Robert Xu]

It's using local sendmail. So let's just force it to use our smtp server
and see if that solves it.

On 5 Oct 2016 2:18 am, "Raphaël Jadot" <r...@hodo.fr> wrote:

> This, or a local sendmail program can not sent to @ml.openmandriva.org,
> and we need to configure bugzilla to use smtp.
>
> 05.10.2016, 03:24, "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com>:
> > So basically, we've identified it as "accounts @openmandriva.org cannot
> send to @ml.openmandriva.org", it looks like?
> >
> > On 4 Oct 2016 6:36 pm, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> Yep, you're correct about both.
> >>
> >> Ben Bullard ben79  OpenMandriva-QA Team
> >>
> >> On 10/03/2016 11:46 PM, Robert Xu wrote:
> >>
> >>> You don't need a user account for that on Bugzilla. It's a global
> watcher... Interestingly enough, I don't think the email server can send to
> our mailing lists...
> >>>
> >>> On 4 Oct 2016 00:38, "Anurag Bhandari" <a...@anuragbhandari.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Ben. You created user account in Bugzilla using the new ML's email
> address?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Ben Bullard <benbullar...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I created a user account for 'om-qa-notifications@ml.
> openmandriva.org' now i need to remove it but don't yet see how.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- Ben Bullard ben79  OpenMandriva-QA Team
> >>>>
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[OM Cooker] avoid kernel 4.8

[Robert Xu]

currently experiencing hard crashes (i hit it myself), look out for patches:

http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1610.0/00878.html

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Re: [OM Cooker] Need help with bugzilla admin.

[Robert Xu]

So basically, we've identified it as "accounts @openmandriva.org cannot
send to @ml.openmandriva.org", it looks like?

On 4 Oct 2016 6:36 pm, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:

> Yep, you're correct about both.
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>
> On 10/03/2016 11:46 PM, Robert Xu wrote:
>
> You don't need a user account for that on Bugzilla. It's a global
> watcher... Interestingly enough, I don't think the email server can send to
> our mailing lists...
>
> On 4 Oct 2016 00:38, "Anurag Bhandari" <a...@anuragbhandari.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ben. You created user account in Bugzilla using the new ML's email
>> address?
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Ben Bullard <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I created a user account for 'om-qa-notificati...@ml.openmandriva.org'
>>> now i need to remove it but don't yet see how.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ben Bullard
>>> ben79
>>> 
>>> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: [OM Cooker] Need help with bugzilla admin.

[Robert Xu]

You don't need a user account for that on Bugzilla. It's a global
watcher... Interestingly enough, I don't think the email server can send to
our mailing lists...

On 4 Oct 2016 00:38, "Anurag Bhandari"  wrote:

> Hi Ben. You created user account in Bugzilla using the new ML's email
> address?
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 8:00 AM, Ben Bullard  wrote:
>
>> I created a user account for 'om-qa-notificati...@ml.openmandriva.org'
>> now i need to remove it but don't yet see how.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ben Bullard
>> ben79
>> 
>> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>>
>>
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[OM Cooker] Fwd: [Bug 2] This bug is for testing if Bugzilla functionality works okay

[Robert Xu]

jfyi -- i'm receiving emails from bugzilla if i'm directly cc'ed to it...


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Date: 3 October 2016 at 22:36
Subject: [Bug 2] This bug is for testing if Bugzilla functionality works okay
To: rob...@gmail.com


Comment # 19 on bug 2 from Ben Bullard

(In reply to Robert Xu from comment #18)
> (In reply to Ben Bullard from comment #17)
> > Why no e-mails from this bug, or any other bug?
>
> So I just got this via my email -- so I'm pretty sure this is sending out
> emails.
>
> I think the mailing lists may have blacklisted
> bugzilla-dae...@openmandriva.org, though...

I'm getting nothing what so ever.


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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-infra] Kahinah isn't picking up updates right now

[Robert Xu]

(FYI: the whitelist on Kahinah is off. It's just not necessary.)

On 19 September 2016 at 09:29, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi -- if you're cc'ed directly to this email you need to re-login to
> Kahinah. I reset the datasource because MySQL is malfunctioning
> (again) and we need to have a working Kahinah, which means all
> previous accounts got wiped (they're backed up, but different data
> sources). Once you do, please let me know so I can add you to the
> override list again.
>
> On 19 September 2016 at 09:23, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh MySQL...
>>
>> I switched the datasource to sqlite3 for now. Not ideal at all, but
>> better than nothing.
>> The numbers will be messed up. At least it still works.
>>
>> On 19 September 2016 at 03:47, His Shadow <shadowpilo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> We've had this problem twice before already, but mysql keeps braking.
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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-infra] Kahinah isn't picking up updates right now

[Robert Xu]

Hi -- if you're cc'ed directly to this email you need to re-login to
Kahinah. I reset the datasource because MySQL is malfunctioning
(again) and we need to have a working Kahinah, which means all
previous accounts got wiped (they're backed up, but different data
sources). Once you do, please let me know so I can add you to the
override list again.

On 19 September 2016 at 09:23, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh MySQL...
>
> I switched the datasource to sqlite3 for now. Not ideal at all, but
> better than nothing.
> The numbers will be messed up. At least it still works.
>
> On 19 September 2016 at 03:47, His Shadow <shadowpilo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> We've had this problem twice before already, but mysql keeps braking.
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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-infra] Kahinah isn't picking up updates right now

[Robert Xu]

Oh MySQL...

I switched the datasource to sqlite3 for now. Not ideal at all, but
better than nothing.
The numbers will be messed up. At least it still works.

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[OM Cooker] Kahinah isn't picking up updates right now

[Robert Xu]

Why?

Short answer: I don't know.
Long answer: Nothing on both the ABF and Kahinah side has changed. So
really, I don't know. (Unless someone's modified a web server
configuration, which has broken the way Kahinah calls ABF before.)

Please use your due diligence while it's being investigated (cc'ing
om-infra - has anyone made any changes?)

(aside: and please don't comment with "why does nobody care about
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Re: [OM Cooker] RRL (Rolling Release) Project management.

[Robert Xu]

In that case, let's wait until we can chat and confirm. A quick meeting to
plan out next steps.

Unlike TC meetings, which can drag on, we'll have a quick 15-30 minute
rapid fire meeting.

(This is also why I kind of like voice/video meetings, but whatever works.)

On 17 Sep 2016 15:24, "Raphaël Jadot" <r...@hodo.fr> wrote:

Colin was checked as «nomail» because of too many bounces from his email
address.

@Colin just in case, here is the history of the conversation:
http://ml.openmandriva.org/pipermail/om-cooker_ml.openmandriva.org/2016-
September/thread.html

17.09.2016, 21:19, "Raphaël Jadot" <r...@hodo.fr>:
> It should be then added to next council meeting.
>
> It seems Colin can't access the discussion :(
>
> 17.09.2016, 19:30, "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com>:
>>  I _really_ want to deprecate Kahinah. It makes sense if ABF can't be
>>  modified before the end of November (a possibility, of course).
>>
>>  On 17 September 2016 at 05:00, Raphaël Jadot <r...@hodo.fr> wrote:
>>>   If we do this, I guess then connecting to ABF and Kahinah with github
makes
>>>   sense.
>>>
>>>   Wdyt Robert, for Kahinah?
>>>
>>>   --
>>>   Sent from Yandex.Mail for mobile
>>>
>>>   16.09.2016, 23:46, "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>   Uhhh... Resend?
>>>
>>>   Anyway, if we are to adopt this tool, I then propose:
>>>
>>>   1. Migrate all issues to Github.
>>>   2. Redirect project.openmandriva.org to waffle.io and
>>>   issues.openmandriva.org to Github.
>>>   3. Have a further meeting once this is settled to plan out Lx 4.
>>>
>>>   Robert
>>>
>>>   On 16 Sep 2016 5:43 pm, "Colin Close" <itc...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   During a discussion about the implementation of the RRL for
OpenMandriva the
>>>   need for a project management tool was identified.
>>>   Some thought that our current tool (OpenProject) was to complicated
for the
>>>   purpose and an alternative online service called waffle.io was
suggested as
>>>   a managment tool for this purpose.
>>>   You can view information about this tool here
>>>   https://github.com/waffleio/waffle.io/wiki/Recommended-
Workflow-Using-Pull-Requests
>>>   A working version of the interface can be viewed here:-
>>>   https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
>>>   The tool uses github fto provide some of it's functionality.
>>>   There were too few people at the TC meeting for it to be quorate so a
>>>   meaningful vote was not possible hence this cooker post which it is
hoped
>>>   will allow those who were not present to express their views.
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Re: [OM Cooker] RRL (Rolling Release) Project management.

[Robert Xu]

I _really_ want to deprecate Kahinah. It makes sense if ABF can't be
modified before the end of November (a possibility, of course).

On 17 September 2016 at 05:00, Raphaël Jadot <r...@hodo.fr> wrote:
> If we do this, I guess then connecting to ABF and Kahinah with github makes
> sense.
>
> Wdyt Robert, for Kahinah?
>
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> 16.09.2016, 23:46, "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com>:
>
> Uhhh... Resend?
>
> Anyway, if we are to adopt this tool, I then propose:
>
> 1. Migrate all issues to Github.
> 2. Redirect project.openmandriva.org to waffle.io and
> issues.openmandriva.org to Github.
> 3. Have a further meeting once this is settled to plan out Lx 4.
>
> Robert
>
>
> On 16 Sep 2016 5:43 pm, "Colin Close" <itc...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> During a discussion about the implementation of the RRL for OpenMandriva the
> need for a project management tool was identified.
> Some thought that our current tool (OpenProject) was to complicated for the
> purpose and an alternative online service called waffle.io was suggested as
> a managment tool for this purpose.
> You can view information about this tool here
> https://github.com/waffleio/waffle.io/wiki/Recommended-Workflow-Using-Pull-Requests
> A working version of the interface can be viewed here:-
> https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
> The tool uses github fto provide some of it's functionality.
> There were too few people at the TC meeting for it to be quorate so a
> meaningful vote was not possible hence this cooker post which it is hoped
> will allow those who were not present to express their views.
> If after two days there have been no serious objections the tool will be
> considered adopted.
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Re: [OM Cooker] RRL (Rolling Release) Project management.

[Robert Xu]

Uhhh... Resend?

Anyway, if we are to adopt this tool, I then propose:

1. Migrate all issues to Github.
2. Redirect project.openmandriva.org to waffle.io and
issues.openmandriva.org to Github.
3. Have a further meeting once this is settled to plan out Lx 4.

Robert

On 16 Sep 2016 5:43 pm, "Colin Close"  wrote:

> During a discussion about the implementation of the RRL for OpenMandriva
> the need for a project management tool was identified.
> Some thought that our current tool (OpenProject) was to complicated for
> the purpose and an alternative online service called waffle.io was
> suggested as a managment tool for this purpose.
> You can view information about this tool here https://github.com/waffleio/
> waffle.io/wiki/Recommended-Workflow-Using-Pull-Requests
> A working version of the interface can be viewed here:-
> https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
> The tool uses github fto provide some of it's functionality.
> There were too few people at the TC meeting for it to be quorate so a
> meaningful vote was not possible hence this cooker post which it is hoped
> will allow those who were not present to express their views.
> If after two days there have been no serious objections the tool will be
> considered adopted.
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Re: [OM Cooker] RRL (Rolling Release) Project management.

[Robert Xu]

On a sidenote: we have a crap-ton of repositories in
OpenMandrivaAssociation. I personally dislike that just because
there's just _too much_ (also hard to distinguish repositories), but
it should be noted that we should either disable issues on all those
repositories or add them to waffle.io (see
https://github.com/waffleio/waffle.io/issues/1814).

Just because - how on earth are people going to find
OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx when there are thousands of
other repositories hiding it? (Ignoring just linking
issues.openmandriva.org.)

On 15 September 2016 at 12:43, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A quick evaluation from my view:
>
> Waffle.io provides only one board, but it imports all issues to the
> board automatically. This might be messy now, but we can definitely
> work with it (Inbox/Bugs/Requests/Backlog/In
> Progress/Review/Release/Resolved).
> I'm a little concerned about bug load, but we'll see how it works.
>
> As for Github Projects, you can create multiple boards to work with
> it. For example, you can create a board for every sprint. But for a
> continuously evolving distribution like ours, this may not be a good
> idea because it does not provide the option to automatically import
> all issues to a board. This can limit us, especially when triaging
> and/or maintaining tasks. (Also, I don't trust people to not "forget"
> about the project management tool... again.)
>
> Waffle.io seems like the safer option right now. We can re-evaluate
> Github projects again later. (Like when Waffle integrated with it:
> https://bot.waffle.io/)
> I'd recommend that you try Github projects out yourself to figure out
> if you like it better or not, and report back.
>
> On 15 September 2016 at 12:00, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It's already live at Github.com. I'll be evaluating it as well.
>>
>>
>> On 15 Sep 2016 11:45, "Raphaël Jadot" <r...@hodo.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> Robert told about the fact that Github just annouced the new «projects»
>>> service by github.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://github.com/blog/2256-a-whole-new-github-universe-announcing-new-tools-forums-and-features
>>>
>>> Documentation is already there so it should not be long before it's
>>> shipped.
>>> https://help.github.com/articles/tracking-the-progress-of-your-work-with-projects/
>>>
>>> I agree Robert that if we could avoid navigating between different sites,
>>> it could be better, so I'd prefer using github projects instead. Besides of
>>> this, no objection.
>>>
>>> 15.09.2016, 13:14, "Colin Close" <itc...@compuserve.com>:
>>> > During a discussion about the implementation of the RRL for OpenMandriva
>>> > the need for a project management tool was identified.
>>> > Some thought that our current tool (OpenProject) was to complicated for
>>> > the purpose and an alternative online service called waffle.io was 
>>> > suggested
>>> > as a managment tool for this purpose.
>>> > You can view information about this tool here
>>> > https://github.com/waffleio/waffle.io/wiki/Recommended-Workflow-Using-Pull-Requests
>>> > A working version of the interface can be viewed here:-
>>> > https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
>>> > The tool uses github fto provide some of it's functionality.
>>> > There were too few people at the TC meeting for it to be quorate so a
>>> > meaningful vote was not possible hence this cooker post which it is hoped
>>> > will allow those who were not present to express their views.
>>> > If after two days there have been no serious objections the tool will be
>>> > considered adopted.
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Re: [OM Cooker] RRL (Rolling Release) Project management.

[Robert Xu]

A quick evaluation from my view:

Waffle.io provides only one board, but it imports all issues to the
board automatically. This might be messy now, but we can definitely
work with it (Inbox/Bugs/Requests/Backlog/In
Progress/Review/Release/Resolved).
I'm a little concerned about bug load, but we'll see how it works.

As for Github Projects, you can create multiple boards to work with
it. For example, you can create a board for every sprint. But for a
continuously evolving distribution like ours, this may not be a good
idea because it does not provide the option to automatically import
all issues to a board. This can limit us, especially when triaging
and/or maintaining tasks. (Also, I don't trust people to not "forget"
about the project management tool... again.)

Waffle.io seems like the safer option right now. We can re-evaluate
Github projects again later. (Like when Waffle integrated with it:
https://bot.waffle.io/)
I'd recommend that you try Github projects out yourself to figure out
if you like it better or not, and report back.

On 15 September 2016 at 12:00, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's already live at Github.com. I'll be evaluating it as well.
>
>
> On 15 Sep 2016 11:45, "Raphaël Jadot" <r...@hodo.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Robert told about the fact that Github just annouced the new «projects»
>> service by github.
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/blog/2256-a-whole-new-github-universe-announcing-new-tools-forums-and-features
>>
>> Documentation is already there so it should not be long before it's
>> shipped.
>> https://help.github.com/articles/tracking-the-progress-of-your-work-with-projects/
>>
>> I agree Robert that if we could avoid navigating between different sites,
>> it could be better, so I'd prefer using github projects instead. Besides of
>> this, no objection.
>>
>> 15.09.2016, 13:14, "Colin Close" <itc...@compuserve.com>:
>> > During a discussion about the implementation of the RRL for OpenMandriva
>> > the need for a project management tool was identified.
>> > Some thought that our current tool (OpenProject) was to complicated for
>> > the purpose and an alternative online service called waffle.io was 
>> > suggested
>> > as a managment tool for this purpose.
>> > You can view information about this tool here
>> > https://github.com/waffleio/waffle.io/wiki/Recommended-Workflow-Using-Pull-Requests
>> > A working version of the interface can be viewed here:-
>> > https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
>> > The tool uses github fto provide some of it's functionality.
>> > There were too few people at the TC meeting for it to be quorate so a
>> > meaningful vote was not possible hence this cooker post which it is hoped
>> > will allow those who were not present to express their views.
>> > If after two days there have been no serious objections the tool will be
>> > considered adopted.
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Re: [OM Cooker] RRL (Rolling Release) Project management.

[Robert Xu]

It's already live at Github.com. I'll be evaluating it as well.

On 15 Sep 2016 11:45, "Raphaël Jadot"  wrote:

> Robert told about the fact that Github just annouced the new «projects»
> service by github.
>
> https://github.com/blog/2256-a-whole-new-github-universe-
> announcing-new-tools-forums-and-features
>
> Documentation is already there so it should not be long before it's
> shipped. https://help.github.com/articles/tracking-the-
> progress-of-your-work-with-projects/
>
> I agree Robert that if we could avoid navigating between different sites,
> it could be better, so I'd prefer using github projects instead. Besides of
> this, no objection.
>
> 15.09.2016, 13:14, "Colin Close" :
> > During a discussion about the implementation of the RRL for OpenMandriva
> the need for a project management tool was identified.
> > Some thought that our current tool (OpenProject) was to complicated for
> the purpose and an alternative online service called waffle.io was
> suggested as a managment tool for this purpose.
> > You can view information about this tool here
> https://github.com/waffleio/waffle.io/wiki/Recommended-
> Workflow-Using-Pull-Requests
> > A working version of the interface can be viewed here:-
> https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
> > The tool uses github fto provide some of it's functionality.
> > There were too few people at the TC meeting for it to be quorate so a
> meaningful vote was not possible hence this cooker post which it is hoped
> will allow those who were not present to express their views.
> > If after two days there have been no serious objections the tool will be
> considered adopted.
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Re: [OM Cooker] Regarding Rolling Releases

[Robert Xu]

On 14 September 2016 at 16:25, Tomasz Paweł Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dnia środa, 14 września 2016 14:12:47 CEST Robert Xu pisze:
>> Well, we may not even have to use waffle.io:
>>
>> https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/14/github-gets-built-in-project-management-to
>> ols-and-support-for-reviews/?utm_source=twitterfeed_medium=twitter
>>
>
> Dude... guess what is on 3rd place on that page... waffle.io
>
> Seems like like not even took a peek on
> https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
> if you post such thing.
>

I have looked at it. I am attempting to be open to all options, rather
than being locked on waffle.io. If Github is adopting waffle.io's
features, then I'm trying to figure out how we can use one platform
instead of two.

(aside: Please don't assume that I haven't even looked at it if I
"post such thing". It's not very nice.)

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Re: [OM Cooker] Regarding Rolling Releases

[Robert Xu]

Well, we may not even have to use waffle.io:

https://techcrunch.com/2016/09/14/github-gets-built-in-project-management-tools-and-support-for-reviews/?utm_source=twitterfeed_medium=twitter

I'd like not to split what we have over too many services, or else
nobody will use them. Again.

On 9 September 2016 at 03:17, Tomasz Paweł Gajc  wrote:
> Dnia czwartek, 8 września 2016 22:21:57 CEST Raphaël Jadot pisze:
>> Waffle, or huboard https://huboard.com/huboard/huboard (which has the
>
> Waffle have support for boards of boards, so you can track tasks/issues from
> many github projects on one board :)
>
>> advantage to be opensource) are indeed nice tools. I'd prefer tools less
>> tied to github, but able to hook with it.
>> I'm not fond of "1 ticket" = "1 backlog entry"
>>
>> I think saner to have them separate like, for examples, gogs
>> https://gogs.io/ which has * Issue management with github:
>> https://github.com/gogits/gogs/issues * project management with trello:
>> https://trello.com/b/uxAoeLUl/gogs-go-git-service * forums and mailing
>> lists with discourse: https://discuss.gogs.io/categories
>> For project management, I'd prefer something more versatile like
>> restyaboard  http://restya.com/board/
>
> Seems like demo is not woring...
> http://board.demo.restya.com/
>
>> I like the fact it's not bounded to github, but can be hooked to it, and is
>> apparently the closest tool to trello, open source.
>> Some advantages I see are
>> Grid, List, Calendar and Gantt layouts
>> Offline sync - Use without internet
>> Responsive
>> lots of features in fact http://restya.com/board/features
>>
>
> What is the advantage over waffle.io ?
>
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Re: [OM Cooker] Regarding Rolling Releases

[Robert Xu]

On 7 September 2016 at 08:58, Tomasz Paweł Gajc  wrote:
>
>
> Speaking of ABF i think it would be nice to have a repo diff that will show
> packages that versions differs between cooker, 3.0 etc. This would help in
> backporting.
>

Speaking of which, fedya, do you have a backlog of tasks for ABF? Is
there a project tracker we can follow along at?


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Re: [OM Cooker] Regarding Rolling Releases

[Robert Xu]

On 6 September 2016 at 16:52, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer  wrote:
> On 2016-09-06 21:17, Tomasz Paweł Gajc wrote:
>>
>>> > Seems like waffle.io is a good replacement.
>>> > https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx
>>>
>>> Not being able to host it on our infrastructure doesn't seem so great,
>>> and still keeps
>>> a divide between Bugzilla & that. But I'm open to the idea.
>>>
>>
>> Please take a look how waffle.io works.
>>
>> We can use
>> https://github.com/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx/issues
>>
>> as our main place for reporting bugs, enchancements etc, like Valve does
>> it
>> with Steam. People likes to use github, and bugzilla is so '90
>
>
> Works for me.
>

I took a look at waffle.io -- if you are all willing to triage, then I
won't have objections.

(As a sidenote, Valve doing that with Steam is not a good comparison -
their backlog is just growing rapidly...)

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Re: [OM Cooker] Regarding Rolling Releases

[Robert Xu]

On 6 September 2016 at 10:01, Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin
 wrote:
> This too.
> I suggest to mark with RED all critical packages, systemd,glibc, etc
> and we will mark username who pushed "publish" button
>

Is there any way to automatically determine whether it is a critical
package, i.e. dependency of basesystem or task-plasma?
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Re: [OM Cooker] Regarding Rolling Releases

[Robert Xu]

On 6 September 2016 at 10:58, Tomasz Paweł Gajc  wrote:
>
> Only one hour ? Thats quite uncomprable given that idea is almost year old...
>

And was never really discussed at length. Ideas ≠ Plans

>
> Add to ABF:
> * voting functionality for testing packages
> * "tags" - to mark packages as they are part of something bigger i.e. KDE
> Frameworks. packagers can update whole tag, build it, vote on it and publish
> it.

Tags would be a good idea. Voting -- see previous messages in the thread and/or
the document.

>
> Long time ago i was talking about this with Colin. My idea was to migrate
> project, issues etc to github services.
>
> Seems like waffle.io is a good replacement.
> https://waffle.io/OpenMandrivaAssociation/OpenMandrivaLx

Not being able to host it on our infrastructure doesn't seem so great,
and still keeps
a divide between Bugzilla & that. But I'm open to the idea.

>
> Enforce hard rules in ABF, and make sure testers do the testing in given time,
> instead extending it to forver waiting.
>

Having expiration dates in testing has produced some bad results, as
seen recently.
Obviously we want testing done in a reasonable time, but rushing it
doesn't look like
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[OM Cooker] Regarding Rolling Releases

[Robert Xu]

At the last TC meeting, we talked for a good hour about rolling releases.
Following that, we decided that it's not possible at this time -- mainly
because we need to be stricter about the way we do quality control and we
need to automate more of our system.

As if to somehow laugh at the situation, the "why broken pkgs are
released?" thread appeared, and it seems to have pushed more of the issues
to the forefront.

I've written up the situation we've established from the TC meeting at
https://github.com/robxu9/documents/blob/master/openmandriva/2016-09-06-QA-improvements.md,
and I'm looking for feedback. Especially:

1. How do we improve strict quality control?
2. What can we do to improve project management?
3. How can we enforce strict quality control and project management usage?

I hope this will be an ongoing discussion. If I should cross post this to
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Re: [OM Cooker] Naming of pkgconfig *.pc files

[Robert Xu]

If upstream does it, we follow it.

On 26 Aug 2016 12:31, "Colin Close"  wrote:

> Hi
> Recently I came across an issue with pkgconfig file naming and I would
> appreciate some advice.
> I recently added a BuildRequires pkgconfig(librsvg) line to a spec file I
> am working on. When I ran the build the librsvg package was not found.
> Further investigation showed that the package config file was named
> librsvg-2.0.pc note the appended version number. Is this correct?
> The the major versions is contained within the *.pc file so it would seem
> that adding the major version to the name of the pc seems like overkill.
> Is there a convention for naming this type of file?
> Best,
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>
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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-qa] Sliced and diced.

[Robert Xu]

Hey Ben,

Good luck on your surgery tomorrow. Let us know how it goes!

Cheers,
Robert

On 21 Aug 2016 16:54, "Ben Bullard"  wrote:

> So I get to go have surgery tomorrow (Sliced and diced). They'll remove
> hardware used to repair a compound fracture of tibia and do knee
> replacement. Hospital 3 days and then recovery. So I will be away for a few
> days or otherwise have less time to spend on OM. Will probably have a
> notebook computer in my room but don't know how much I'll feel like using
> it. TC-meeting for Wednesday is a maybe.
>
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[OM Cooker] Phoronix Benchmarks

[Robert Xu]

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=OpenMandriva-3.0-Benchmarks

Gives a good idea of where we can improve.
Might also be useful for the Clang/LLVM developers.

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Re: [OM Cooker] Happy Birthday to Colin

[Robert Xu]

Happy birthday, Colin! Hope you're having a good one.

On 19 Aug 2016 18:43, "rugyada"  wrote:

> Best wishes!
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[OM Cooker] 3.0 platform on ABF

[Robert Xu]

Can someone mark the 3.0 platform on ABF as released?
( so that updates go to the updates repo instead of the main one now )

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Re: [OM Cooker] We are getting nice coverage:) (thank you Rugyada for follow up)

[Robert Xu]

Don't forget LWN!

https://lwn.net/Articles/697186/

On 14 Aug 2016 10:01, "Kate Lebedeff"  wrote:

>  http://mib.pianetalinux.org/blog/
>  http://mandrivachronicles.blogspot.it/2016/08/the-truth-
> is-out-there-and-so-is.html
> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item=OpenMandriva-Lx-3.0
>  http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=09515
> http://www.open-source-feed.com/2016/08/openmandriva-lx30-released.html
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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-qa] Announcement for GA

[Robert Xu]

I went through and edited parts of it. Some of it, like the Plasma Media
Center link, should probably be changed.

On 12 August 2016 at 17:56, Ben Bullard  wrote:

> I've made a few small changes to software versions. It pays to have
> someone check what I've done as I have been know to make the odd mistake...
> :-[
>
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> On 08/10/2016 09:36 AM, Kate Lebedeff wrote:
>
> Hey!
>
> Here is the announcement which we need to update got GA - fixes etc
>
> Thanks for your edits!
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W145kSK1o5z11uVGik6v_jlcIxTOR0k5s-PeF4D2vaU/edit?usp=sharing
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[OM Cooker] apologies

[Robert Xu]

I'm seeing a lot of emails w.r.t. the lack of kahinah, etc.

First, I wanted to say I'm sorry - I've been really busy wrapping up my
studies in advance for graduation. That and job applications has taken up
most of my time.

If we want ABF to have this functionality, it would be nice to allow ABF to
automatically publish to testing, and then also prevent publishing to
updates unless (x) number of people hit publish. Doing that will help
greatly.

Additionally, if ABF has any mechanism for webhooks, that would help too.
Sending automatic emails would help.

Sorry for the inactivity. If you need to reach me, just email me directly.
I'll be busy until the end of May because that's when graduation is.

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Re: [OM Cooker] can we have xscreensaver off by default?

[Robert Xu]

That's fine - as long as xscreensaver doesn't screenlock on its own? Then
that's just doing the same thing as KDE's, just with a much uglier dialog.
On 29 Mar 2016 20:55, "rugyada" <rugy...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Screensaver is different from screen locker, you know.
> I'd rather prefer xscreensaver doing the screensaver job - feature
> screenlocker *disabled* - and screen locker its own (enabled or
> disabled by default I personally don't care that much, although my
> preference goes to disabled and users turn it on if they need)
>
>
>
>
> 2016-03-30 0:38 GMT+02:00 Ben Bullard <benbullar...@cox.net>:
> > Yes, I would also prefer screen locker off in default install. Users can
> > turn on if needed.
> >
> > Ben Bullard
> > ben79
> > 
> > OpenMandriva-QA Team
> >
> > On 03/29/2016 12:45 PM, Robert Xu wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Any chance we could have xscreensaver off by default? It seems to
> interfere
> > with KDE's screen locking on its own. If people need it (as was
> previously
> > justified), we can let them turn it on manually.
> >
> > Plus,
> >
> https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/05/screenlocker-architecture-in-plasma-next/
> >
> > Robert
> >
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[OM Cooker] can we have xscreensaver off by default?

[Robert Xu]

Hi,

Any chance we could have xscreensaver off by default? It seems to interfere
with KDE's screen locking on its own. If people need it (as was previously
justified), we can let them turn it on manually.

Plus,
https://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/05/screenlocker-architecture-in-plasma-next/

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Re: [OM Cooker] ABF news

[Robert Xu]

Can confirm, not logged in redirects me to a login page for all links.
On 26 Mar 2016 02:43, "luca pedrielli"  wrote:

> Il 25/03/2016 23:21, Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin ha scritto:
>
> You can open this page https://abf.openmandriva.org/build_lists/35476
> even if you not logged in.
>
>
> Yes, I have no problem with this page. is the "diff" link that doesn't
> work.
>
> take a look at this video
>
>
>
> 2016-03-26 1:08 GMT+03:00 luca pedrielli :
>
>> Il 25/03/2016 22:44, Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin ha scritto:
>>
>> >You need to sign in or sign up before continuing.
>> i opened this link
>> https://github.com/OpenMandrivaAssociation/qt5-qtsensors/commit/fad218191d6504c65ce2ef82718f6b09a28cde8f
>> in incognito mode
>> and i see diff ;)
>>
>> Make screenshot.
>>
>>
>> Probably you are logged in.
>>
>> Attached the page I got.
>> It happens with "diff" and " project" field too.
>>
>> This has not happened a few days ago and i was able to open github links.
>> Perhaps you have become shy/discreet ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-03-25 23:11 GMT+03:00 luca pedrielli :
>>
>>> Il 25/03/2016 20:49, Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin ha scritto:
>>>
>>> Why?
>>> I opened link from build list
>>> and got this
>>>
>>> https://github.com/OpenMandrivaAssociation/qt5-qtsensors/commit/fad218191d6504c65ce2ef82718f6b09a28cde8f
>>>
>>>
>>> and I got this:
>>>
>>> *You need to sign in or sign up before continuing.*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-03-25 22:36 GMT+03:00 luca pedrielli :
>>>
 Il 25/03/2016 20:09, Alexander Stefanov-Khryukin ha scritto:

 Most useful feature since last 2 years on ABF.

 Fail reason for a build.

 Look screenshot, or go here
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 but why diff are not accessable?

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[OM Cooker] nvidia now has kms and wayland support

[Robert Xu]

after how many years?

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4bcm9w/nvidia_releases_display_driver_36412_with_wayland/

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[OM Cooker] fyi: deadlock on qt5.6

[Robert Xu]

It's a good thing we didn't jump straight to qt5.6 yet. You'll need
this patch (which will be released with qt 5.6.1):
patch: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/151459/
context: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4anurk/qt_56_released/d1264j1

I don't think this was supposed to be exhibiting symptoms on qt5.5, so
it may not be related to Ben's issue, but it's something to look at.

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Re: [OM Cooker] fyi: deadlock on qt5.6

[Robert Xu]

Looks like it shouldn't be needed for 5.5
On 17 Mar 2016 04:27, "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert this patch is needed for Qt5.5.x too ?
>
> 2016-03-17 2:32 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>
>> It's a good thing we didn't jump straight to qt5.6 yet. You'll need
>> this patch (which will be released with qt 5.6.1):
>> patch: https://codereview.qt-project.org/#/c/151459/
>> context:
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4anurk/qt_56_released/d1264j1
>>
>> I don't think this was supposed to be exhibiting symptoms on qt5.5, so
>> it may not be related to Ben's issue, but it's something to look at.
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Re: [OM Cooker] drakxtools doe not build on cooker

[Robert Xu]

On 13 March 2016 at 01:10, Maik Wagner <maiktapwag...@aol.com> wrote:
> Hello Robert,
>
> Am 13.03.2016 um 01:03 schrieb Robert Xu:
>>
>>
>> Looks like the german translation is not formatted correctly and is
>> failing. @Maik
>>
>>
> I never built drakxtools myself but could you let me know what I would need
> to fix? I am happy to do this.
>

Here:

make[1]: Entering directory
'/builddir/build/BUILD/drakxtools-16.63/perl-install/share/po'
msgfmt -c -o de.mo de.po
Makefile:17: recipe for target 'de.mo' failed
make[1]: Leaving directory
'/builddir/build/BUILD/drakxtools-16.63/perl-install/share/po'
de.po:1126: 'msgid' and 'msgstr' entries do not both end with '\n'
de.po:1160: 'msgid' and 'msgstr' entries do not both begin with '\n'
msgfmt: found 2 fatal errors
make[1]: *** [de.mo] Error 1
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs

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Re: [OM Cooker] drakxtools doe not build on cooker

[Robert Xu]

Looks like the german translation is not formatted correctly and is
failing. @Maik

(Sidenote: is g++ and clang being used at the same time in that log??)
On 12 Mar 2016 17:34, "Tomasz Paweł Gajc"  wrote:

> Help fix this mess
> https://abf.openmandriva.org/build_lists/32082
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Re: [OM Cooker] resolvconf is coming back via openresolv

[Robert Xu]

https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1539

On 8 March 2016 at 05:20, Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fill a bug report.
>
> 2016-03-08 9:09 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Then you are completely welcome to fix NetworkManager, wicd, and all the
>> VPN software.
>>
>> Like I said, it's not a working chain right now - and openresolv isn't
>> ancient (it's actually actively maintained and used with systemd-resolved in
>> alt linux).
>>
>> On 8 Mar 2016 02:56, "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> No.
>>>
>>> problem lies in VPN software or any other software that can't handle
>>> systemd.network interface available for more than 2 years.
>>> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.network.html
>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's better to fix openvpn or anyother vpn software which is used
>>> rather than to break working chain with ancient software.
>>>
>>> 2016-03-08 8:26 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that systemd-resolved is taking exclusive control of
>>>> DNS without the ability to take input from other sources like
>>>> NetworkManager or VPN software. That means that if systemd-resolved
>>>> gets a different DNS than what's needed, requests won't be routed
>>>> correctly. For example (something I ran into recently),
>>>> systemd-resolved takes the ethernet address of my computer, but then
>>>> doesn't catch the VPN that my computer connects to via NetworkManager.
>>>> DNS leaks and I can't access internal resources to the VPN because
>>>> they're all routing outside the VPN.
>>>>
>>>> Also, openresolv isn't ancient (see
>>>> http://roy.marples.name/projects/openresolv/home).
>>>>
>>>> On 8 March 2016 at 02:11, Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > What? No!
>>>> >
>>>> > Dude what is the problem to resurrect some ancient software?
>>>> >
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> > TPG
>>>> >
>>>> > 8 mar 2016 03:41 "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>>>> >>
>>>> >> For Lx3
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 7 Mar 2016 21:28, "Alexander Khryukin" <nobodyd...@gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> For 2014.2 release?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 8 марта 2016 г. 4:07 пользователь "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com>
>>>> >>> написал:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> hi,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I brought up the fact that systemd-resolved was overwriting DNS
>>>> >>>> settings in /etc/resolv.conf and not taking NetworkManager or any
>>>> >>>> other scripts into consideration a while back. I have changes
>>>> >>>> pending
>>>> >>>> that I'll push soon.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I know nobody wanted to deal with resolvconf, so I'm trying out
>>>> >>>> openresolv, which is a BSD-licensed implementation. And I'm ripping
>>>> >>>> out systemd's exclusive control of /etc/resolv.conf - I'd like my
>>>> >>>> VPN
>>>> >>>> back, please!
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> That should also fix NetworkManager's DNS settings not being
>>>> >>>> respected. I'll test it out throughly on my computer before pushing
>>>> >>>> so
>>>> >>>> that I don't destroy everyone else's setup...
>>>> >>>>
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>>>> >>>> robert
>>>> >>>>
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Re: [OM Cooker] resolvconf is coming back via openresolv

[Robert Xu]

Then you are completely welcome to fix NetworkManager, wicd, and all the
VPN software.

Like I said, it's not a working chain right now - and openresolv isn't
ancient (it's actually actively maintained and used with systemd-resolved
in alt linux).
On 8 Mar 2016 02:56, "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No.
>
> problem lies in VPN software or any other software that can't handle
> systemd.network interface available for more than 2 years.
> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.network.html
>
>
> I think it's better to fix openvpn or anyother vpn software which is used
> rather than to break working chain with ancient software.
>
> 2016-03-08 8:26 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>
>> The problem is that systemd-resolved is taking exclusive control of
>> DNS without the ability to take input from other sources like
>> NetworkManager or VPN software. That means that if systemd-resolved
>> gets a different DNS than what's needed, requests won't be routed
>> correctly. For example (something I ran into recently),
>> systemd-resolved takes the ethernet address of my computer, but then
>> doesn't catch the VPN that my computer connects to via NetworkManager.
>> DNS leaks and I can't access internal resources to the VPN because
>> they're all routing outside the VPN.
>>
>> Also, openresolv isn't ancient (see
>> http://roy.marples.name/projects/openresolv/home).
>>
>> On 8 March 2016 at 02:11, Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > What? No!
>> >
>> > Dude what is the problem to resurrect some ancient software?
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> > TPG
>> >
>> > 8 mar 2016 03:41 "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>> >>
>> >> For Lx3
>> >>
>> >> On 7 Mar 2016 21:28, "Alexander Khryukin" <nobodyd...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> For 2014.2 release?
>> >>>
>> >>> 8 марта 2016 г. 4:07 пользователь "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com>
>> написал:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I brought up the fact that systemd-resolved was overwriting DNS
>> >>>> settings in /etc/resolv.conf and not taking NetworkManager or any
>> >>>> other scripts into consideration a while back. I have changes pending
>> >>>> that I'll push soon.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I know nobody wanted to deal with resolvconf, so I'm trying out
>> >>>> openresolv, which is a BSD-licensed implementation. And I'm ripping
>> >>>> out systemd's exclusive control of /etc/resolv.conf - I'd like my VPN
>> >>>> back, please!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That should also fix NetworkManager's DNS settings not being
>> >>>> respected. I'll test it out throughly on my computer before pushing
>> so
>> >>>> that I don't destroy everyone else's setup...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> just a heads up,
>> >>>> robert
>> >>>>
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Re: [OM Cooker] resolvconf is coming back via openresolv

[Robert Xu]

The problem is that systemd-resolved is taking exclusive control of
DNS without the ability to take input from other sources like
NetworkManager or VPN software. That means that if systemd-resolved
gets a different DNS than what's needed, requests won't be routed
correctly. For example (something I ran into recently),
systemd-resolved takes the ethernet address of my computer, but then
doesn't catch the VPN that my computer connects to via NetworkManager.
DNS leaks and I can't access internal resources to the VPN because
they're all routing outside the VPN.

Also, openresolv isn't ancient (see
http://roy.marples.name/projects/openresolv/home).

On 8 March 2016 at 02:11, Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What? No!
>
> Dude what is the problem to resurrect some ancient software?
>
> Cheers
> TPG
>
> 8 mar 2016 03:41 "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>>
>> For Lx3
>>
>> On 7 Mar 2016 21:28, "Alexander Khryukin" <nobodyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> For 2014.2 release?
>>>
>>> 8 марта 2016 г. 4:07 пользователь "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com> написал:
>>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> I brought up the fact that systemd-resolved was overwriting DNS
>>>> settings in /etc/resolv.conf and not taking NetworkManager or any
>>>> other scripts into consideration a while back. I have changes pending
>>>> that I'll push soon.
>>>>
>>>> I know nobody wanted to deal with resolvconf, so I'm trying out
>>>> openresolv, which is a BSD-licensed implementation. And I'm ripping
>>>> out systemd's exclusive control of /etc/resolv.conf - I'd like my VPN
>>>> back, please!
>>>>
>>>> That should also fix NetworkManager's DNS settings not being
>>>> respected. I'll test it out throughly on my computer before pushing so
>>>> that I don't destroy everyone else's setup...
>>>>
>>>> just a heads up,
>>>> robert
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[OM Cooker] resolvconf is coming back via openresolv

[Robert Xu]

hi,

I brought up the fact that systemd-resolved was overwriting DNS
settings in /etc/resolv.conf and not taking NetworkManager or any
other scripts into consideration a while back. I have changes pending
that I'll push soon.

I know nobody wanted to deal with resolvconf, so I'm trying out
openresolv, which is a BSD-licensed implementation. And I'm ripping
out systemd's exclusive control of /etc/resolv.conf - I'd like my VPN
back, please!

That should also fix NetworkManager's DNS settings not being
respected. I'll test it out throughly on my computer before pushing so
that I don't destroy everyone else's setup...

just a heads up,
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Re: [OM Cooker] [RFC] github pushes trigger new abf builds

[Robert Xu]

Not necessarily - pull requests have different events, I believe. Unless we
want them to trigger a non-publishing build...?
On 7 Mar 2016 7:04 a.m., "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about pull requests ? In this case this would trigger the build.
>
> 2016-03-06 21:26 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>
>> It could be argued that if the release didn't bump, then a build won't be
>> triggered. That would be one possible way.
>> On 6 Mar 2016 06:57, "Colin Close" <itc...@compuserve.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Robert,
>>> A bit 'iffy' I'd say. One scenario I'm creating a complex new rpm spec
>>> in stages and I'm committing the work in stages. The commits are not to a
>>> complete spec file. This would result in lots of failed builds. I'm sure
>>> thee are other similar scenarios. Better to build locall using abb (or
>>> abf-console-client when it''s fixed). I thought that a possible tack would
>>> be to build locally and then submit the completed build to abf; there is
>>> the question of trust though with this.
>>> Best,
>>> Colin
>>>
>>> On Saturday 05 Mar 2016 18:32:32 Robert Xu wrote:
>>> > hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I'm curious - what do people think of hooking into Github such that
>>> > pushing to Github will trigger a build on abf.openmandriva.org
>>> > automatically? Useful? Not useful?
>>> >
>>> > robert
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [OM Cooker] [RFC] github pushes trigger new abf builds

[Robert Xu]

It could be argued that if the release didn't bump, then a build won't be
triggered. That would be one possible way.
On 6 Mar 2016 06:57, "Colin Close" <itc...@compuserve.com> wrote:

> Robert,
> A bit 'iffy' I'd say. One scenario I'm creating a complex new rpm spec in
> stages and I'm committing the work in stages. The commits are not to a
> complete spec file. This would result in lots of failed builds. I'm sure
> thee are other similar scenarios. Better to build locall using abb (or
> abf-console-client when it''s fixed). I thought that a possible tack would
> be to build locally and then submit the completed build to abf; there is
> the question of trust though with this.
> Best,
> Colin
>
> On Saturday 05 Mar 2016 18:32:32 Robert Xu wrote:
> > hi all,
> >
> > I'm curious - what do people think of hooking into Github such that
> > pushing to Github will trigger a build on abf.openmandriva.org
> > automatically? Useful? Not useful?
> >
> > robert
> >
> >
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[OM Cooker] [RFC] github pushes trigger new abf builds

[Robert Xu]

hi all,

I'm curious - what do people think of hooking into Github such that
pushing to Github will trigger a build on abf.openmandriva.org
automatically? Useful? Not useful?

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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-qa] Finally and ISO for beta candidate is available

[Robert Xu]

As a side note, Tomasz and I have discovered that plasma-workspace failed
to install for some reason...
We're looking into why it failed, but if you hit a white screen, switch to
a tty, login as root, and install plasma-workspace, then systemctl restart
sddm.

On 4 March 2016 at 12:53, Efrem Mc <efrem...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Robert's link is good as I am downloading now via wget then I will
> burn to USB and boot Legacy mode
>  first, if that fails, then I will try UEFI mode.
>
> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Tomasz Paweł Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dnia piątek, 4 marca 2016 11:26:43 Ben Bullard pisze:
>>
>> >  $ md5sum -c OpenMandrivaLx.2015.0-beta-PLASMA.x86_64.iso.md5sum
>> >  OpenMandrivaLx.2015.0-beta-PLASMA.x86_64.iso: FAILED
>> >  md5sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match
>> >
>> >  $ sha1sum -c OpenMandrivaLx.2015.0-beta-PLASMA.x86_64.iso.sha1sum
>> >  OpenMandrivaLx.2015.0-beta-PLASMA.x86_64.iso: FAILED
>> >  sha1sum: WARNING: 1 computed checksum did NOT match
>> >
>>
>> Well spotted Ben. It looks like file-store truncates files that are more
>> than
>> 1GB .
>>
>> Please try this link https://nightly.rxu.io/
>>
>> Iso got build also on Robert Xu machine.
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[OM Cooker] building isos are exhausting disk space

[Robert Xu]

hi all,

building ISOs are exhausting the disk space on my server - it seems to get
stuck initialising modules and then takes up > 10GB of disk space.

log: https://nightly.rxu.io/20160301.log

hope that helps...

cheers,
Robert

p.s. I saw some requests to rewire Kahinah to use abf.openmandriva.org. The
answer right now is no - I anticipated that, tried it, and ended up having
to rewrite large portions. There is a lot on my plate right now, and given
that 2014 mirrors are still pointing to abf.io, you should be pushing to
abf.io for 2014 updates.

my current task list looks to me:
- get out another version of kahinah asap
- upgrade auth.openmandriva to support oauth2 and new CAS versions so that
we can hook up other systems
- think about lx3 promotion campaign, including articles about the various
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Re: [OM Cooker] abf.openmandriva.org is ready

[Robert Xu]

On 15 February 2016 at 18:09, Alexander Khryukin  wrote:
>>Wasn't there a naming problem with gtk2/gtk3? Has that been resolved?
> gtkp2.0/gtkp3.0
>

hmm, not there.


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Re: [OM Cooker] abf.openmandriva.org is ready

[Robert Xu]

Wasn't there a naming problem with gtk2/gtk3? Has that been resolved?
On 15 Feb 2016 16:27, "Bernhard Rosenkraenzer"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I agree -- probably abf.openmandriva.org will already give us better
> reliability. Given git on abf.io is down anyway, this sounds like a
> perfect time. We just need to make sure abf.io repositories go read-only
> as soon as they're back up.
>
> Unless anyone has objections, I propose we officially switch over tomorrow
> (Tuesday) 12.00 CET.
>
> People pulling their updates directly from abf-downloads.abf.io will have
> to update their urpmi repository sources. People using abf-console-client
> and/or abb will have to update their configs. Also, make sure you use the
> github repositories. Other than that, it should be a smooth transition.
>
> ttyl
>
> bero
>
> On 2016-02-15 20:10, Alexander Khryukin wrote:
>
> As you see abf.io not available today
> "Filesystem on GIT repository is checking now for badblocks. Please be
> patient. GIT repository is not avaliable now."
>
> I suggest to move to abf.openmandriva.org immediately
>
> We added today a button to build ISO's and cached chroots from webui.
>
> cached chroot
> https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/2/product_build_lists/22
> ISO
> https://abf.openmandriva.org/platforms/cooker/products/1/product_build_lists/9
>
> All stuff is ready to use and working much faster.
>
> Sources:
> https://github.com/OpenMandrivaSoftware/docker-abf
> https://github.com/OpenMandrivaSoftware/docker-builder
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[OM Cooker] gtk scrollbar under other desktops

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forwarding
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/distributor-list/2016-January/msg1.html

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[OM Cooker] Kahinah is moving to Auth.OpenMandriva

[Robert Xu]

Hi all,

Kahinah will be migrating to Auth.OpenMandriva as an authentication
mechanism shortly. When that happens, you will have to re-login and
confirm your permissions with me or another QA administrator.

* What is Auth.OpenMandriva?
Auth.OpenMandriva is our Single-Sign-On solution for all OpenMandriva
services. Migration is beginning soon and services like OpenProject
and Discourse will be moving to it.

* How can I sign up?
You should sign up at https://auth.openmandriva.org/. If you have an
existing Discourse account, please use your existing username so that
your posts migrate when Discourse undergoes the same transition.

* Will anything change with Kahinah?
Kahinah will migrate to https://kahinah.openmandriva.org/. No other
further changes are expected.

Expect the migration to finish by Friday.

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Re: [OM Cooker] Call for help - Discover

[Robert Xu]

Sorry - just saw this now. We're probably missing AppStream data...

On 18 January 2016 at 09:37, Tomasz Gajc  wrote:
> Anyone ?
>
> 2016-01-14 14:09 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Gajc :
>>
>> Hi Denis,
>>
>> yes i aware of that patch, and important part of this patch is commenting
>> out that loop:
>>
>> foreach () {
>>
>> which allows to call urpmi with commands. Unfortunately our urpmi is a
>> little bit different, and adapting is needed i.e for handling info date
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-01-14 8:22 GMT+01:00 Denis Silakov :
>>>
>>> You can take a look at ROSA patch for this backend, though it is against
>>> older packagekit (and you way seems to be more correct, since we just
>>> replaced mga with rosa):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://abf.io/import/packagekit/blob/rosa2014.1/packagekit-1.0.5-rosa-urpmi.patch
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/13/2016 11:06 PM, Tomasz Paweł Gajc wrote:
>>>
>>> Dnia środa, 13 stycznia 2016 19:16:39 Tomasz Gajc pisze:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Discover (aka Muon) is a package manager based on PackageKit.
>>>
>>> I call for help to debug Discover because mostly it does not work and
>>> does
>>> not show any package list.
>>>
>>> https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1381
>>>
>>> If we want to use Discover as a nice tool for managing and updating
>>> packages in a nice way then we need a proper debug what is wrong on that
>>> devil chain:
>>> Discover->PackageKit->urpmi
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>> I've found the culprit. It's /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/urpmi/urpmi-
>>> dispatched-backend.pl is is being called by packagekitd (the daemon)
>>>
>>> Simply this perl script needs some adaptation to current urpmi.
>>> I've made some first steps, ofcourse more are needed !
>>>
>>> https://abf.io/openmandriva/packagekit/blob/master/PackageKit-1.0.5-OpenMandriva-support.patch
>>>
>>>
>>> Source:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/hughsie/PackageKit/blob/master/backends/urpmi/helpers/urpmi-dispatched-backend.pl
>>>
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Re: [OM Cooker] How to tame --auto-orphans

[Robert Xu]

Hmm, install kernel-nrjQL-desktop-latest and
kernel-nrjQL-desktop-devel-latest?
On 17 Jan 2016 15:08, "Ben Bullard"  wrote:

> The package is in '/var/lib/rpm/installed-through-deps.list' yet 
> '--auto-orphans'
> still wants to remove it. That seems wrong???
>
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> On 01/17/2016 01:40 PM, Ben Bullard wrote:
>
> This is the problem. --auto-orphans want to remove
> kernel-nrjQL-desktop-devel-4.1.12-1omv-1-1-omv2014.0.x86_64. I don't want
> that package removed. How do I configure --auto-orphans so this package is
> not removed?
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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-qa] Development release - dev-rel - DR

[Robert Xu]

In a way, this concept is akin to nightlies (which, by the way, are
being built at https://nightly.rxu.io/ (though the latest ones are
failing...)).

Maybe we should have a pipeline where we promote builds based on
nightlies. Dates will also help us make sure that the numbers are
increasing (and also mean something). Then, we can say something like
"we consider build 20160101 beta quality" and release it as is.

It might be easier to manage that way.

On 13 January 2016 at 21:42, Ben Bullard  wrote:
> Good idea. If I understand instead of calling an .iso Alpha or Beta instead
> name it dev-rel and then we testers refer to it by "dev-rel "
> like this dev-rel 14025? Then Alpha and Beta releases are public and
> official releases only?
>
> Ben Bullard
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> On 01/13/2016 01:39 PM, rugyada wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Resurrecting an old idea of mine, previously just sketched and never
> officially submitted, I'd like to propose the following:
>
> Currently during all the development time, ISOs are being named Alpha
> / Beta / aso.
> For some people, maybe bit more properly but imho not really correct
> or widely/commonly decided/agreed, are being called pre-Alpha /
> pre-Beta / aso.
>
> This way, it happens that ISOs built *along the path* which leads to
> Alpha, Beta, etc. are not yet A/B/etc actually.
>
> This preamble in order to explain the "problem" and submitting
> possible "solution".
>
> Suggestion is to name the WIP ISO builds (pre-* ) as
> Development Release  - short name: dev-rel - acronym: DR
>
> So I can say for example: "I'm testing dev-rel 14025" or "I've
> installed DR 14025 iso" or "Call for testing dev-rel 14025 for bug
> hunting"
>
> The point is not to release ISOs named Beta untill they not soddisfy
> the Beta standards (Beta, here just as an example)
>
> ISOs might be named
> OpenMandrivaLx.2015.0-dev-rel-PLASMA.x86_64.iso
> instead of
> OpenMandrivaLx.2015.0-beta-PLASMA.x86_64.iso
>
> Finally, when dev-rels will reach the requested standards, we can
> release the official Alpha, Beta, etc release for public download.
>
> Just an idea, hopefully you may have some time to consider it.
> Thank you for your attention.
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Re: [OM Cooker] XCB error - What does journalctl actually mean?

[Robert Xu]

journalctl accesses the system logs. It's what would have been put in
/var/log/messages or other places.

I'm not sure about the Xcb errors - lto? /shrug/
In OM Lx 3 on hardware or in VirtualBox when I run 'journalctl -me' I get a
lot, meaning a large number of, lines like this:

Jan 12 18:57:15 ben-pc kwin_x11[4759]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 9
(BadDrawable), sequence: 10954, resource id: 0, major code: 14
(GetGeometry), minor code: 0

and

Jan 12 18:57:15 ben-pc kwin_x11[4759]: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3
(BadWindow), sequence: 11879, resource id: 35651586, major code: 18
(ChangeProperty), minor code: 0

both say XCB error. Is this really an error? Why don't I see anything like
this in 2014? In general in OM Lx 3 I get a lot of stuff from journalctl
about kwin_x11, kdeinit5, and kscreen_backend_launcher. Normally in other
OS's I see mostly stuff about kernel, systemd, dbus, and networkmanager
which I have grown to think of as normal.

Ever since I've gotten used to using journalctl I've been perplexed as to
why in OM Lx 3 and *only* OM Lx 3 there are a ton of errors related to
graphical stuff and not what I think are normal 'under the hood' details of
a Linux operating system that I see elsewhere.

To be sure, currently my OM Lx 3 is working OK. Therefore I don't know that
there is a problem but the preponderance of graphical errors is concerning.

Attached is current output of journalctl -me from OM Lx 3 on partition.

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Re: [OM Cooker] Noto fonts

[Robert Xu]

I don't mind packaging them, but why switch?

There needs to be strong justification at this point - we're never
going to release otherwise.

On 7 January 2016 at 15:50, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer  wrote:
> Hi,
> we should definitely package them -- not so sure about switching the default
> (I guess a lot of KDE is designed with Oxygen fonts in mind - using
> something else may add unwanted wrapping or stuff like that).
>
> ttyl
> bero
>
> On 2016-01-07 21:35, Tomasz Paweł Gajc wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> what do you think to switch by default to Noto fonts ?
>>
>> https://www.google.com/get/noto/
>>
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[OM Cooker] Happy New Year!

[Robert Xu]

Hi all:

Hope everyone's enjoying the holiday! It's been unseasonably warm over
here at least, and I'm sure others are having warm weather as well.

A couple of things:

I'd like to get a Lx 3 release out before March. That means stopping
package version updates very soon, and testing fully underway. That's
because Plasma 5.6 is due out in March, and so is GNOME 3.20; and
we'll be delayed again if we have to upgrade everything...

The om-qa mailing list is moving to Discourse soon! If you haven't,
make sure you sign up at discourse.openmandriva.org. We'll put out an
announcement soon detailing the migration.

Lastly, have a very happy and healthy new year!

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Re: [OM Cooker] Breeze-Dark

[Robert Xu]

Hmmm, only some of the commits. There are new commits that haven't made it
into Breeze-gtk.
On 31 Dec 2015 10:24 a.m., "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> 2015-12-31 3:30 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Out of curiosity, why did we migrate from gnome-breeze to Breeze-gtk if
>> Breeze-gtk is more insufficient?
>>
>>
> gnome-breeze got merged by upstream into breeze-gtk
>
> Anyways if you look on mozilla, LO and other bugzillas you will see couple
> of bug related to Breeze-Dark. Simply it does not work.
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Re: [OM Cooker] Breeze-Dark

[Robert Xu]

Out of curiosity, why did we migrate from gnome-breeze to Breeze-gtk if
Breeze-gtk is more insufficient?
On 30 Dec 2015 2:11 p.m., "Robert Xu" <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fine by me.
> On 30 Dec 2015 13:36, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> Ben Bullard
>> ben79
>> 
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>>
>>
>> On 12/30/2015 07:39 AM, Chris Tanner wrote:
>>
>> I agree with this. Indeed with Breeze-Dark, some GTK applications are
>> almost useless.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 30/12/15 07:32 AM, Tomasz Gajc wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> looks like Breeze-Dark theme for Plasma is not yet ready to be used on
>> daily basis.
>>
>> Please see this bug report:
>> https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1432
>>
>> In a brief, this theme does not looks nice in GTK apps either.
>>
>> My proposition is to get back to plain Breeze theme. Wdyt ?
>>
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Re: [OM Cooker] wiped /usr/share/xsessions in Lx 3

[Robert Xu]

ping - just experienced this again.

On 10 December 2015 at 19:31, Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Something is wiping /usr/share/xsessions for me -- can anyone verify?
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Re: [OM Cooker] [om-workshop] [OMA] [PM] Update Mesa in 2014.2

[Robert Xu]

It was a private message.
On 18 Dec 2015 14:58, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:

> Wow. Wonder why when I try to go to
> http://discourse.openmandriva.org/t/update-mesa-in-2014-2/201/1 I'm
> getting:
>
>
> Sorry, you don't have access to that topic!
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
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>
>
> On 12/18/2015 01:01 AM, Robert Xu wrote:
>
> That... Is a good question. Forwarding to cooker.
> On 17 Dec 2015 23:37, "jojodu34" <i...@openmandriva.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> jojodu34 <http://discourse.openmandriva.org/users/jojodu34>
>> December 18
>>
>> today there is an update of mesa in 2014.2 with a new driver for Intel
>> graphic, the same which is used in beta 2015 and don't work for me.
>> Is it safe to update ? 2014.2 is my main distro
>> thanks
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Re: [OM Cooker] [OMA] [PM] Update Mesa in 2014.2

[Robert Xu]

That... Is a good question. Forwarding to cooker.
On 17 Dec 2015 23:37, "jojodu34"  wrote:

> jojodu34 
> December 18
>
> today there is an update of mesa in 2014.2 with a new driver for Intel
> graphic, the same which is used in beta 2015 and don't work for me.
> Is it safe to update ? 2014.2 is my main distro
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[OM Cooker] kdnssd vs zeroconf-ioslave

[Robert Xu]

So I noticed that there are conflicts between kdnssd and
zeroconf-ioslave - probably because they do the same thing.

Unfortunately, this has led to a conflict in packages - knotes,
kontact, and akonadi-notes-agent (and by extension kio-extras and
task-plasma-minimal) depend on kdnssd, but we have zeroconf-ioslave in
task-plasma as well.

Which are we going with? Last I checked for KDE4 kdnssd was a dead
package, but we resurrected it for Plasma 5..

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Re: [OM Cooker] VBox crashes with Plasma5

[Robert Xu]

On 13 December 2015 at 19:08, Tomasz Paweł Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dnia niedziela, 13 grudnia 2015 19:05:11 Robert Xu pisze:
>>
>> Then again, using VBox for 3d effects is a bad idea..)
>>
>
> You are reffering to 3D effects of kwin on host machine or 3D accel setting in
> vbox ?
>

3D acceleration setting in VBox. It's completely broken on Plasma 5
for me, maybe because Plasma's using a newer OpenGL or something.
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Re: [OM Cooker] VBox crashes with Plasma5

[Robert Xu]

Eugh - no idea, then. I'm on intel drivers on practically all of my computers :/

On 13 December 2015 at 20:07, Tomasz Paweł Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dnia niedziela, 13 grudnia 2015 19:54:04 Robert Xu pisze:
>> Do you have vboxadditions installed? It may be worth it to upgrade to
>> 5.0.10 for Virtualbox - looking at the changelog:
>>
> Yes i have it installed and updated to latest version. Still same effect 
> either
> with mesa or nvidia blob drivers.
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Re: [OM Cooker] Plasma 5.5.0

[Robert Xu]

Looks good - any idea where the Breeze icon set went, though?

On 12 December 2015 at 16:40, Tomasz Paweł Gajc  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i've finished update of our Plasma to 5.5.0 version.
>
> You can read about new features here:
> https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.5.0.php
>
> Would be nice if someone added a blog post about this and spread it to
> phoronix and others.
>
> BTW:
>
> I'v updating KF5 to 5.17.0, changes are listed here:
> https://www.kde.org/announcements/kde-frameworks-5.17.0.php
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Re: [OM Cooker] Cooker: Oh no plasma.desktop is FUBAR

[Robert Xu]

Seems to be the systemd packages - I only updated those and everything
broke on my end.
On 12 Dec 2015 1:19 p.m., "Bernhard Rosenkraenzer"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just looked at it a bit.
>
> There seems to be some problem with kscreen (which happens to be used by
> both LXQt and Plasma) -- if I launch plasmashell, I get errors about
> nothing providing org.kde.KScreen.
>
> If I launch /usr/lib64/libexec/kf5/kscreen_backend_launcher manually and
> then launch plasmashell, it starts up and actually works.
>
> Looks like dbus isn't autolaunching services for some reason.
>
> I'll look into it further when I have a bit more time unless someone beats
> me to it... Right now I'm around 300% busy with work stuff.
>
> ttyl
>
> bero
>
> On 2015-12-12 18:57, Ben Bullard wrote:
>
> And that is much appreciated.
>
> A question. Is what ever is keeping plasma from working also keeping LXQt
> desktop from working? I just recently installed LXQt on VBox and hardware
> and it boots to a black screen with active mouse cursor just like
> plasma.desktop.
>
> I honestly haven't researched why LXQt isn't working very much but will
> maybe Monday when I have more time.
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
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>
>
> On 12/11/2015 07:59 PM, Tomasz Paweł Gajc wrote:
>
> Dnia piątek, 11 grudnia 2015 04:20:35 Ben Bullard pisze:
>
> So we just need to wait till rest of packages are ready? If so could
> someone please give us a heads up on this ml?
>
>
> I'm currently working in getting Plasma 5.5.0 on cooker. 90% of packages
> upload to repository is done.
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Re: [OM Cooker] Cooker: Oh no plasma.desktop is FUBAR

[Robert Xu]

Whoops, forgot to reply to all.

But the only packages I updated were systemd and setup... Possibly a good
starting point to look at.

(Unless setup caused this mess.)
On 12 Dec 2015 17:24, "Tomasz Paweł Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dnia sobota, 12 grudnia 2015 15:27:10 Robert Xu pisze:
> > Seems to be the systemd packages - I only updated those and everything
> > broke on my end.
> >
>
> Coincidence, as i did not change anything in systemd that migh have impact
> on
> DBus or Plasma.
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Re: [OM Cooker] Cooker: Oh no plasma.desktop is FUBAR

[Robert Xu]

Yep, you're right. That fixed it for me.
On 12 Dec 2015 5:32 p.m., "Tomasz Paweł Gajc"  wrote:

> Dnia sobota, 12 grudnia 2015 23:26:44 Tomasz Paweł Gajc pisze:
> > Dnia sobota, 12 grudnia 2015 19:19:27 Bernhard Rosenkraenzer pisze:
> > > Looks like dbus isn't autolaunching services for some reason.
> >
> > Looks like this commint in libkscreen may help
> >
> https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=libkscreen.git=commit=5766d087c1f4de4fb3b55f
> > 15a009f7b159904648
> >
> > STrange thing is, that dbus daemon is running in user environment.
> > --
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> > TPG
>
>
> I've found the culprit, and fixed it.
>
> https://abf.io/openmandriva/libkscreen5/commit/3bda004d6cba10702e68e27a5f46ae8ca179476a
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[OM Cooker] wiped /usr/share/xsessions in Lx 3

[Robert Xu]

Something is wiping /usr/share/xsessions for me -- can anyone verify?

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Re: [OM Cooker] freeze break: gnome 3.18.2

[Robert Xu]

On 10 December 2015 at 01:52, Crispin Boylan <c...@beebgames.com> wrote:
> On 10/12/15 01:20, Robert Xu wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've noticed that a number of GTK/GNOME packages are on 3.18.0 (or
>> some variant); however, this has broken the previous gnome 3.16.*
>> packages.
>>
>> I'm therefore asking for a version freeze exception for gnome to push
>> all necessary packages up to 3.18. It's a major version bump, but it's
>> better than trying to bring all the 3.18 packages all the way back to
>> 3.16 again.
>>
> hi robert
>
> its ok i'm going through and updating to 3.18, we already agreed to do this
> before the big abf break.
>

ah, okay, didn't catch that. thanks, cris!

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[OM Cooker] freeze break: gnome 3.18.2

[Robert Xu]

Hi all,

I've noticed that a number of GTK/GNOME packages are on 3.18.0 (or
some variant); however, this has broken the previous gnome 3.16.*
packages.

I'm therefore asking for a version freeze exception for gnome to push
all necessary packages up to 3.18. It's a major version bump, but it's
better than trying to bring all the 3.18 packages all the way back to
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Re: [OM Cooker] sddm coredump

[Robert Xu]

Ah, clever. So it was our configuration file.

Good catch!
On 6 Dec 2015 19:13, "Colin Close" <itc...@compuserve.com> wrote:

> If you look at other multiple entries in sddmm.conf you'll notice that the
> delimiter is a ':' .
> Replacing the commas with colons gives a working configuration and as you
> rightly observed Luca It now boots in VirtualBox.
> Best,
> Colin
>
> On Saturday 05 Dec 2015 09:48:09 luca pedrielli wrote:
> > commenting
> >
> > #HideShells=/sbin/nologin,/bin/false,/usr/sbin/nologin
> >
> > it works.
> >
> >
> >
> > Il 05/12/2015 05:55, Robert Xu ha scritto:
> > >
> > > Got it. Here's the stacktrace:
> > >
> > > https://carousel.dropbox.com/photos/cc/WbkW5M7ylONYMYA
> > >
> > > Looks like it's barfing on string references (splitting by commas when
> > > there is no value? No idea.)
> > >
> > > Anyone more C++ savvy?
> > >
> > > On 4 Dec 2015 12:17, "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com
> > > <mailto:tpg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've enabled debug mode in sddm so please install 0.13.0-7 version
> > >
> > > https://abf.io/build_lists/2603793
> > >
> > > 2015-12-03 15:47 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com
> > > <mailto:rob...@gmail.com>>:
> > >
> > > I checked the coredump - it's crashing at configuration:
> > >
> > >
> https://github.com/sddm/sddm/blob/master/src/common/ConfigReader.cpp#L133
> > >
> > >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1kz9ljbs5yjg33/Screenshot%202015-12-03%2009.45.37.png?dl=0
> > >
> > > It's crashing on one of the trimmed() areas, but I can't check
> > > further
> > > because there's a lack of debug information (and no debuginfo
> > > packages...)
> > >
> > > On 2 December 2015 at 12:10, Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com
> > > <mailto:tpg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's virtualbox issue.
> > > >
> > > > To clear things up. SDDM is using advanced OpenGL features
> > > through Qt5. In
> > > > case of virtualbox there is a well know issue that after
> > > some 4.x version
> > > > vbox lost it's ability to properly handle OpenGL (3D
> > > acceleration).
> > > > Make sure you have installed latest vbox additions,
> > > sometimes it helps.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > My suggestion (also for myself :) is to use different
> > > virtualization tool,
> > > > as vbox is becoming dead end.
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Re: [OM Cooker] New ISO

[Robert Xu]

http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/
On 6 Dec 2015 16:37, "Blackcrack" <blackcr...@blackysgate.de> wrote:

> thank you for the explain  :)
> which folder ?
>
> best regards
> Blacky
>
> Am 06.12.2015 um 20:41 schrieb Robert Xu:
>
> They're released as individual tarballs now - see the individual directory
> in releases. The latest version is 1.18.
> On 6 Dec 2015 04:47, "Blackcrack" <blackcr...@blackysgate.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> ->  x11-server - 1.18 ?
>>
>> §1
>> http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download/
>> ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/X11/FTP.X.ORG/
>> humm... -> ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/X11/FTP.X.ORG/GettingR7.0
>>
>> "OBTAINING THE X WINDOW SYSTEM Thank you for your interest in the X
>> WINDOW SYSTEM,
>> Version 11, Release 7.0 Sites that have network file transfer ability can
>> retrieve the release
>> from the network location nearest them listed further below.
>> FTP SITES PROVIDING RELEASE 7.0 In addition to ftp.x.org, a full list of
>> miror sites can be found at http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Mirrors. "
>>
>> so §1 ^
>>
>> Rel. 7 in vers 11, do i am now nothing understand or do i see to be the
>> vers 1.18 hopeless aged ?
>> what's wrong with me ? be i am on the wrong way ? or be i also hopeless
>> aged ?
>>
>> best regards
>> Blacky
>>
>> Am 06.12.2015 um 05:30 schrieb Robert Xu:
>>
>> Just confirmed that X is not starting on intel graphics. It's
>> segfaulting on the intel driver, according to the backtrace...
>>
>> On 1 December 2015 at 10:11, Ben Bullard <benbullar...@cox.net> 
>> <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> On hardware (with Intel graphics) X doesn't start. It will start with basic
>> graphics driver but the screen resolution is poor. This is:
>> https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1416
>>
>>
>> Ben Bullard
>> ben79
>> 
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>> On 12/01/2015 08:10 AM, Tomasz Gajc wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> today i've build new ISO for Lx 3 beta on ABF.
>>
>> Feel free to test 
>> it:https://abf.io/platforms/cooker/products/136/product_build_lists/13666
>>
>> What's new:
>>
>> Plasma Desktop - 5.4.3
>> KFramework - 5.16.0
>> Mesa3D - 11.0.6
>> x11-server - 1.18
>> systemd - 228
>> kernel - 4.1.12
>> NetworkManager - 1.0.8
>> pulseaudio - 7.1
>> calamares - 1.1.4.2
>> and many many more updates.
>>
>> Known issues(at least for me):
>> 1. No plasma panel (you have to start it manually)
>>
>>
>> Please do some testing :)
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Re: [OM Cooker] New ISO

[Robert Xu]

They're released as individual tarballs now - see the individual directory
in releases. The latest version is 1.18.
On 6 Dec 2015 04:47, "Blackcrack" <blackcr...@blackysgate.de> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> ->  x11-server - 1.18 ?
>
> §1
> http://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download/
> ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/X11/FTP.X.ORG/
> humm... -> ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/X11/FTP.X.ORG/GettingR7.0
>
> "OBTAINING THE X WINDOW SYSTEM Thank you for your interest in the X WINDOW
> SYSTEM,
> Version 11, Release 7.0 Sites that have network file transfer ability can
> retrieve the release
> from the network location nearest them listed further below.
> FTP SITES PROVIDING RELEASE 7.0 In addition to ftp.x.org, a full list of
> miror sites can be found at http://wiki.x.org/wiki/Mirrors. "
>
> so §1 ^
>
> Rel. 7 in vers 11, do i am now nothing understand or do i see to be the
> vers 1.18 hopeless aged ?
> what's wrong with me ? be i am on the wrong way ? or be i also hopeless
> aged ?
>
> best regards
> Blacky
>
> Am 06.12.2015 um 05:30 schrieb Robert Xu:
>
> Just confirmed that X is not starting on intel graphics. It's
> segfaulting on the intel driver, according to the backtrace...
>
> On 1 December 2015 at 10:11, Ben Bullard <benbullar...@cox.net> 
> <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> On hardware (with Intel graphics) X doesn't start. It will start with basic
> graphics driver but the screen resolution is poor. This is:
> https://issues.openmandriva.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1416
>
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>
> On 12/01/2015 08:10 AM, Tomasz Gajc wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> today i've build new ISO for Lx 3 beta on ABF.
>
> Feel free to test 
> it:https://abf.io/platforms/cooker/products/136/product_build_lists/13666
>
> What's new:
>
> Plasma Desktop - 5.4.3
> KFramework - 5.16.0
> Mesa3D - 11.0.6
> x11-server - 1.18
> systemd - 228
> kernel - 4.1.12
> NetworkManager - 1.0.8
> pulseaudio - 7.1
> calamares - 1.1.4.2
> and many many more updates.
>
> Known issues(at least for me):
> 1. No plasma panel (you have to start it manually)
>
>
> Please do some testing :)
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Re: [OM Cooker] sddm coredump

[Robert Xu]

Got it. Here's the stacktrace:

https://carousel.dropbox.com/photos/cc/WbkW5M7ylONYMYA

Looks like it's barfing on string references (splitting by commas when
there is no value? No idea.)

Anyone more C++ savvy?
On 4 Dec 2015 12:17, "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've enabled debug mode in sddm so please install 0.13.0-7 version
>
> https://abf.io/build_lists/2603793
>
> 2015-12-03 15:47 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I checked the coredump - it's crashing at configuration:
>>
>> https://github.com/sddm/sddm/blob/master/src/common/ConfigReader.cpp#L133
>>
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/f1kz9ljbs5yjg33/Screenshot%202015-12-03%2009.45.37.png?dl=0
>>
>> It's crashing on one of the trimmed() areas, but I can't check further
>> because there's a lack of debug information (and no debuginfo
>> packages...)
>>
>> On 2 December 2015 at 12:10, Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's virtualbox issue.
>> >
>> > To clear things up. SDDM is using advanced OpenGL features through Qt5.
>> In
>> > case of virtualbox there is a well know issue that after some 4.x
>> version
>> > vbox lost it's ability to properly handle OpenGL (3D acceleration).
>> > Make sure you have installed latest vbox additions, sometimes it helps.
>> >
>> >
>> > My suggestion (also for myself :) is to use different virtualization
>> tool,
>> > as vbox is becoming dead end.
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Re: [OM Cooker] sddm coredump

[Robert Xu]

Can we please stick with Virtualbox?

It's free, is open source, and at least we can all stay consistent.

(Sidenote: If you're not on 5.0.6 or later, 5.0.6 fixed a lot of problems.)

On 2 December 2015 at 16:31, Colin Close  wrote:
> Last time I tried vmplayer it had crap support  for EFI.
> I'm pretty sure Vmware are in dispute with FSF as well so it wouldn't be my 
> vm of choice.
> Colin
>
> On Wednesday 02 Dec 2015 18:34:04 Tomasz Gajc wrote:
>> I'm thinking about vmplayer ;)
>>
>> 2015-12-02 18:19 GMT+01:00 Ben Bullard :
>>
>> > Qemu? VMware? We seem to have qemu in 2014 repos. Would it be helpful if
>> > switching from VBox to have a gentlemen's agreement to use same virtual
>> > machine?
>> >
>> > Ben Bullard
>> > ben79
>> > 
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>> >
>> >
>> > On 12/02/2015 11:10 AM, Tomasz Gajc wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > It's virtualbox issue.
>> >
>> > To clear things up. SDDM is using advanced OpenGL features through Qt5. In
>> > case of virtualbox there is a well know issue that after some 4.x version
>> > vbox lost it's ability to properly handle OpenGL (3D acceleration).
>> > Make sure you have installed latest vbox additions, sometimes it helps.
>> >
>> >
>> > My suggestion (also for myself :) is to use different virtualization tool,
>> > as vbox is becoming dead end.
>> >
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Re: [OM Cooker] MOTD

[Robert Xu]

Okay, that's reasonable - scared me for a bit.
On 2 Dec 2015 11:42 a.m., "Tomasz Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> It was me who did that.I've set up motd for openssh, and finally i turned
> out it is also used when you log in to tty in localhost... Then i forgot to
> revert this.
>
>
>
> 2015-12-02 2:21 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Just updated my system and got this on a tty. Who did this?
>>
>> This isn't funny. Saying all connections are monitored and recorded will
>> scare users who have just installed their system.
>>
>> (aside: Xorg is broken on intel but we have this motd instead? Really? I
>> logged into a tty to get a journal file and instead got myself scared half
>> to death after the recent ABF intrusion that our system was actually
>> compromised)
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Re: [OM Cooker] How many networkmanager.service needed?

[Robert Xu]

Oh dear.

Only one should be needed, and that should be NetworkManager.service. Can
you figure out what else is creating those service files?
On 29 Nov 2015 2:21 p.m., "Ben Bullard"  wrote:

> In 2014.2 I notice that 'systemctl list-unit-files' lists these:
>
> dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service enabled
> network-manager.service enabled
> networkmanager.service  disabled
> NetworkManager.service  enabled
>
> Are all of these really needed?
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Re: [OM Cooker] Happy b-day Rugyada

[Robert Xu]

Happy birthday, rugyada!

On 25 November 2015 at 16:10, Tomasz Paweł Gajc  wrote:
> Let's cheer Rugyaga for her birthday :)
>
> Happ bday !
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[OM Cooker] A NIGHTLY ISO BUILT SUCCESSFULLY

[Robert Xu]

HURRAY!

20151124 is available at https://nightly.rxu.io/.

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Re: [OM Cooker] Is build 5539 the latest version of OM Lx 3?

[Robert Xu]

But then we have no x11...
On 22 Nov 2015 13:09, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:

> Hadn't thought of that. To get an .iso to build maybe you can put /^x11/
> in skip.list?
>
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> On 11/21/2015 09:44 PM, Robert Xu wrote:
>
> Yeah... Trying to get nightly.rxu.io builds but guess what? Xorg
> breakage. :(
> On 21 Nov 2015 17:31, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> I believe this is the .iso Colin built and posted here:
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-vbk52SZVzAMjhnbkdCWXNrRmc/view?usp=sharing
>>
>> users/testers want to know if this is latest version for purposes of
>> opening bugs. AFAIK it is. See these forum posts:
>>
>>
>> https://forums.openmandriva.org/en/discussion/1071/oma-lx3-latest-version#latest
>>
>> https://discourse.openmandriva.org/t/oma-lx3-latest-version/188
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Re: [OM Cooker] Is build 5539 the latest version of OM Lx 3?

[Robert Xu]

Yeah... Trying to get nightly.rxu.io builds but guess what? Xorg breakage.
:(
On 21 Nov 2015 17:31, "Ben Bullard"  wrote:

> I believe this is the .iso Colin built and posted here:
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-vbk52SZVzAMjhnbkdCWXNrRmc/view?usp=sharing
>
> users/testers want to know if this is latest version for purposes of
> opening bugs. AFAIK it is. See these forum posts:
>
>
> https://forums.openmandriva.org/en/discussion/1071/oma-lx3-latest-version#latest
>
> https://discourse.openmandriva.org/t/oma-lx3-latest-version/188
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Re: [OM Cooker] Is it safe to update x11 packages in Cooker?

[Robert Xu]

I don't think so...
On 20 Nov 2015 17:22, "Ben Bullard"  wrote:

> I'm asking because I get this output from urpmi:
>
> A requested package cannot be
> installed:
>
> x11-driver-video-ati-7.6.1-1-omv2015.0.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
> xserver-abi(videodrv-19)[>=
> 0])
>
> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) Y
> The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
> x11-driver-input-vmmouse-13.0.0-13-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(xinput-21) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-1.0.0-56-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to missing x11-driver-video-ati)
> x11-driver-video-ati-7.5.0-6-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-cirrus-1.5.3-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-fbdev-0.4.4-13-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-intel-2.99.917-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-mga-1.6.4-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-neomagic-1.2.9-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-nouveau-1.0.11-5-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-openchrome-0.3.3-13-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-s3-0.6.5-15-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-savage-2.3.8-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-sis-0.10.7-17-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-sisusb-0.9.6-17-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-tdfx-1.4.6-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-trident-1.3.7-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-vesa-2.3.4-2-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0)
> x11-driver-video-vmware-13.1.0-4-omv2015.0.x86_64
>  (due to unsatisfied xserver-abi(videodrv-19) >= 0) (y/N) N
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Re: [OM Cooker] Nightlies

[Robert Xu]

Sure - I've changed it to 2am UTC.

On 19 November 2015 at 07:00, Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Robert can you change time for ISO build ? 2-3 am ?
>
> 2015-11-18 9:30 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Yeah,looks like there were only one error
>>
>> ...retrieving failed: wget failed: exited with 8
>>
>> Looks like repository were not available.
>>
>>
>> 2015-11-18 8:18 GMT+01:00 Robert Xu <rob...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> On 17 November 2015 at 18:02, Tomasz Paweł Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Dnia wtorek, 17 listopada 2015 17:43:24 Robert Xu pisze:
>>> >> Sure. They're enabled. The next one should be built tonight.
>>>
>>> Last one failed...
>>> https://nightly.rxu.io/20151118.log
>>>
>>> As a general notice, these ISOs build at midnight UTC every day. So
>>> 20151118 was built at 2015-11-19 00:00 UTC and is labelled as the
>>> previous day to indicate that it is a nightly of the previous day's
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Re: [OM Cooker] Nightlies

[Robert Xu]

Sure. They're enabled. The next one should be built tonight.
On 17 Nov 2015 17:13, "Tomasz Paweł Gajc" <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dnia niedziela, 25 października 2015 21:29:53 Robert Xu pisze:
>
> > You can find nightlies on my box at https://nightly.rxu.io/. Ignore
> > the certificate error.
>
>
> Robert can you start your ISO builds till ABF will be fully dunctional ?
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Re: [OM Cooker] Nightlies

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On 17 November 2015 at 18:02, Tomasz Paweł Gajc <tpg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dnia wtorek, 17 listopada 2015 17:43:24 Robert Xu pisze:
>> Sure. They're enabled. The next one should be built tonight.

Last one failed...
https://nightly.rxu.io/20151118.log

As a general notice, these ISOs build at midnight UTC every day. So
20151118 was built at 2015-11-19 00:00 UTC and is labelled as the
previous day to indicate that it is a nightly of the previous day's
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Re: [OM Cooker] Paris facts

[Robert Xu]

Indeed. Watching it play out on the news media (we're 6 hours behind Paris
here, so I got to watch it all horrifyingly live) was something of a shock
to me.

My heart goes out to all our French friends as well. Stay resolute.
On 14 Nov 2015 02:06, "rugyada"  wrote:

> I'm disconcerted this morning reading about Paris attacks.
> My heart goes close to our French friends.
>
>
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[OM Cooker] pushed fixed genhdlist2

[Robert Xu]

Good news: I fixed genhdlist2. We need someone to add it to the repos
though and manually regenerate with the new genhdlist2.

Bad news: this was upsetting, because this slipped through due to careless
version upgrades/merging. Please try to test your changes.

Robert
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Re: [OM Cooker] OMLx3 Beta crashes and burns. Was: Power Management Service not running in OM Lx 3 Beta

[Robert Xu]

If you're using it in a chroot, do `journalctl -m` and pipe the output
to a file.

On 9 November 2015 at 13:31, Ben Bullard <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
> The only way I can access system is by chroot. Doing so this is what I get:
>
> # journalctl -b
> -- No entries --
>
> Also .xsession-errors is empty. Output of journalctl -xe attached.
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
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>
> On 11/09/2015 12:13 AM, Robert Xu wrote:
>
> Got the output of journalctl -b?
>
> On 8 Nov 2015 22:31, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> System will boot to desktop. I can see that clock works. But I have no kbd
>> or mouse and can't do anything. Chroot into it and ran XFdrake, that didn't
>> help. Chroot into it and 'urpmi --replacepkgs kernel-nrjQL-desktop, that
>> didn't help. Login to recovery mode and again no kbd. As far as I can tell
>> kbd is gone basically as soon as system starts to boot.
>>
>> Ben Bullard
>> ben79
>> 
>> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>>
>> On 11/08/2015 07:59 PM, Ben Bullard wrote:
>>
>> Well the system crash isn't related to powermanagement not working. I did
>> another install from Robert's nightlies where powermanagement did work and
>> system crashed again while I was using Firefox browsing a forum. System went
>> to black screen with no working kbd or mouse, no access to virtual console.
>> Reboot will boot to visable desktop but no kbd or mouse.
>>
>> Ben Bullard
>> ben79
>> 
>> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>>
>>
>> On 8 Nov 2015 12:57, "Ben Bullard" <benbullar...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is a much larger problem than I first realized. In this state if I
>>> ever let computer go to sleep system is completely broken. Can't login, no
>>> VT, can't login to recovery mode, can't login to runlevel 3 system is
>>> completely broken and not accessible except through chroot.
>>>
>>> I could sure use some help on this.
>>>
>>> Ben Bullard
>>> ben79
>>> 
>>> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>>>
>>> On 11/07/2015 07:29 PM, Ben Bullard wrote:
>>>
>>> This is in a fresh install from Colin's .iso build id # 5539 (fully
>>> updated!)
>>>
>>> In systemsettings>Power Management it gives the venerable time honored
>>> error:
>>>
>>> "Power Management configuration module could not be loaded. The Power
>>> Management Service appears not to be running. This can be solved by starting
>>> or scheduling it inside ''Startup and Shutdown''.
>>>
>>> Startup and Shutdown shows power management as running
>>>
>>> Also there's this:
>>>
>>> # systemctl status upower.service
>>> ● upower.service - Daemon for power management
>>>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/upower.service; enabled; vendor
>>> preset: enabled)
>>>Active: active (running) since Sat 2015-11-07 19:10:01 CST; 10min ago
>>>  Docs: man:upowerd(8)
>>>  Main PID: 6106 (upowerd)
>>>CGroup: /system.slice/upower.service
>>>└─6106 /usr/libexec/upowerd
>>>
>>> Is power management really not running or is there some other problem.
>>> Would be nice if I could actually set things in Power Management. Is this
>>> these packages?
>>>
>>> # rpm -qa | grep powerdevil
>>> lib64powerdevilui5-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
>>> lib64powerdevilcore2-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
>>> lib64powerdevilconfigcommonprivate5-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
>>> powerdevil-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
>>>
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Re: [OM Cooker] Power Management Service not running in OM Lx 3 Beta

[Robert Xu]

Well, I think that the lock screen is broken due to what looks like the
same reason as the polkit dialogue (bero?). As for sleep, I can't replicate
- maybe I'm doing something different?
On 8 Nov 2015 12:57, "Ben Bullard"  wrote:

> This is a much larger problem than I first realized. In this state if I
> ever let computer go to sleep system is completely broken. Can't login, no
> VT, can't login to recovery mode, can't login to runlevel 3 system is
> completely broken and not accessible except through chroot.
>
> I could sure use some help on this.
>
> Ben Bullard
> ben79
> 
> OpenMandriva-QA Team
>
>
> On 11/07/2015 07:29 PM, Ben Bullard wrote:
>
> This is in a fresh install from Colin's .iso build id # 5539 (fully
> updated!)
>
> In systemsettings>Power Management it gives the venerable time honored
> error:
>
> "Power Management configuration module could not be loaded. The Power
> Management Service appears not to be running. This can be solved by
> starting or scheduling it inside ''Startup and Shutdown''.
>
> Startup and Shutdown shows power management as running
>
> Also there's this:
>
> # systemctl status upower.service
> ● upower.service - Daemon for power management
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/upower.service; enabled; vendor
> preset: enabled)
>Active: active (running) since Sat 2015-11-07 19:10:01 CST; 10min ago
>  Docs: man:upowerd(8)
>  Main PID: 6106 (upowerd)
>CGroup: /system.slice/upower.service
>└─6106 /usr/libexec/upowerd
>
> Is power management really not running or is there some other problem.
> Would be nice if I could actually set things in Power Management. Is this
> these packages?
>
> # rpm -qa | grep powerdevil
> lib64powerdevilui5-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
> lib64powerdevilcore2-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
> lib64powerdevilconfigcommonprivate5-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
> powerdevil-5.4.2-1-omv2015.0.x86_64
>
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