Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.comwrote: Roberto, On 12-10-31, at 15:14 , Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/10/2012 Roberto Galoppini wrote: A more diverse and sustainable project. For example, until few years ago having OOo integrated or at least able to interoperate with SAP was a distinct dream, is there any chance we can have the right SAP people to attend the AOO BoF, and discuss about this? This would be quite interesting too. I don't have any contacts, but it would be good to have SAP people there and, in general, devote a part of the session to exploring how OpenOffice can interoperate with other solutions (or what the OpenOffice community can do to allow others to be able to integrate with OpenOffice more easily), so not only the community in a strict sense but the ecosystem around it too. I have sent an email to my open source contacts at SAP, maybe other Apache members might have contacts too. I have my old friend from Sun, Erwin T., as well as others through him, and then some outside of open source. We've had discussions with SAP before—but that was prior-moulting, when we were still Oracles. I've dropped a couple of emails, but it's All Saints in Germany and it would be unlikely to hear back before Monday. Having been in the OOo migrations' business for some years, I firmly believe we should try hard to reduce the SI integration gap. Absolutely. Totally agree. Huzza. So let's. Can we perhaps formalize this in a wiki of Things That Are Important or At Least Worth It? We might do that, but a survey could probably do a better job in this respect, though. While actually for things like SAP we've heard that so many times from medium-large companies that likely we do not need to ask. Roberto Louis Roberto Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: extensions and translations.
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/1/12 12:39 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 10/27/2012 01:17 AM, schrieb jan iversen: I see, I have to get used to this license issues (a long time ago I believed open source was just open source, then I joined an apache project). never mind. Would it be to our advantage if we offered third party developers (that is how I see extension developers) the possibility to register a language file and get it translated as part of the language packs ? Of course it would be to our advantage; or let's say for the project and software. A lot of extensions would be available in many languages. However, I don't know where we should draw the line to set a limit. When we select here and there some extensions, then the other developers will ask why not their extensions. It's quite simple I would say, if people want develop extensions under ALv2 and want to contribute the code to the project. We can easy create a special section in our repo where we can host them. But this means they have to be handled in the same way as all other stuff here. Means a new release have to be voted... +1 I think the important thing is this: We don't just want code. We want communities. So if an extension author thinks that their extension is generally useful and he/she wants to join the AOO community and work on the extension here, and allow others to work on it as well, then this is good. We can have a set of standard extensions. Agree 100%. Roberto And IMHO it's not possible to translate all strings for all extensions. But maybe others here have a great idea? we can't probably provide it and I think we have to do enough ;-). But I can think of an alternative service hosted somewhere else. Juergen Or should we just say extension developers does not concern us (and help AOO get more used) so we just look the other way ? Maybe the right way is somewhere in the middle. Yeah, maybe. ;-) Marcus On 27 October 2012 00:58, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 10/27/2012 12:36 AM, schrieb jan iversen: While doing an update to the l10n workflow I think I found a slight problem. Extensions offers the capability to integrate/extend our UI. Assuming somebody writes an extension, and publishes it on http://www.openoffice.org/**extensions/ http://www.openoffice.org/extensions/how does that get integrated into the translation process ? Simply, not at all. As far as I can see the sources are not integrated into our build --all --with-lang. Right. If I am right that they are not part of the general translation, then is that per design so or should it be different ? Yes, this is by design. Extensions are offered to extent your AOO install at any point of time. These are developed by people that do not have to belong to our project (when we put aside some exceptions). They can act independently. And therefore they are allowed to (or have to ;-) ) do all on their own; incl. translation. That applies for all extensions and templates available on: - http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org http://extensions.services.openoffice.org - http://templates.services.**openoffice.org http://templates.services.openoffice.org I might be following a wrong track here, but please forgive me for trying to make the l10n process as complete as I can. Don't panic. That's a great goal and everybody is thankful to you for doing this task. Marcus -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 29/10/2012 Roberto Galoppini wrote: A more diverse and sustainable project. For example, until few years ago having OOo integrated or at least able to interoperate with SAP was a distinct dream, is there any chance we can have the right SAP people to attend the AOO BoF, and discuss about this? This would be quite interesting too. I don't have any contacts, but it would be good to have SAP people there and, in general, devote a part of the session to exploring how OpenOffice can interoperate with other solutions (or what the OpenOffice community can do to allow others to be able to integrate with OpenOffice more easily), so not only the community in a strict sense but the ecosystem around it too. I have sent an email to my open source contacts at SAP, maybe other Apache members might have contacts too. Having been in the OOo migrations' business for some years, I firmly believe we should try hard to reduce the SI integration gap. Roberto Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [ApacheCon] BoF session on AOO community
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: About Peter's point #2...I suppose this is getting kind of abstract, but what is the payoff from expanding AOO's community? A more diverse and sustainable project. For example, until few years ago having OOo integrated or at least able to interoperate with SAP was a distinct dream, is there any chance we can have the right SAP people to attend the AOO BoF, and discuss about this? SugarCRM's CEO wrote in early May [1] wrote that he they were looking at how they can integrate with OpenOffice, it would be great to see things like this happening. Roberto [1] http://lmaugustin.typepad.com/lma/2012/05/apache-releases-openoffice-34-sugarcrm-looking-at-how-we-can-integrate-with-openoffice-httpowlyanyok.html Typically marketing is performed to increase sales, which earns money; AOO has no sales, so what should the intended benefit from marketing be? How does Apache gain from a larger user base for AOO? More users - more traffic - more demand for resources - more demand for people that maintain infrastructure and the money to pay for said infrastructure. What is Apache's interest in promoting its offering of AOO? How does AOO gain from a larger user base? More beta-testing, more word-of-mouth exposure, more potential donors? More representative clout for acquiring resources from Apache? I'm not saying -- I would never say -- that making AOO available to the world is a bad or unnecessary thing. Given monopolistic business practices and commercialization of software available, it's important for there to be freely available alternatives to such things as an office productivity suite. But if marketing is going to occur, it would be good to know what said marketing is meant to accomplish, other than promotion for promotion's sake. Promotion for promotion's sake is the organizational manifestation of a viral idea. If there's to be a discussion on marketing, perhaps it should include a manifesto that's more concrete and strategic than Don't you think this is great? Let's throw money at it until you do. Don -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:17 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Roberto: I cannot tell if the problem is in the extension, but the behavior is as follow: 1) I do a confgure --with-lang --enable-wiki-publisher IT WORKS. 2) I do a configure --enable-wiki-publisher I get the license problem 3) I modify description.xml and remove the tag simple_license, and rebuilt/reinstall main/swext/mediawiki IT WORKS. So, please excuse me, but it seems to me that the extension do have a problem, or ??? The Extensions site justs hosts extensions, it doesn't know which options have been using to compile them, and the latest version was loaded by Sun and it's likely that who did it is not part of this project anymore. The build issues is definitely a good question, hope someone on ooo-dev can answer you on that. Roberto rgds Jan I. On 24 October 2012 12:52, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I have not sent a specific request to you, but asked it as a general question (because I did not know who to ask). In the meantime, I found out that the sources in swext/mediawiki are in use, so I have compiled AOO with --enable-wiki-publisher. As far as I know http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/wikipublisher is based on 2009 source code, and it has not been updated since. Now my only problem is that, when I install the ocx via extension manager, I get a dialog box, stating that there might be a problem with description.xml because there is a license problem. I have tried to configure --with-lang=en, and rebuilt AOO, but that does not seem to help. I have no clue about why you get warnings, but I'm pretty sure this is not related to Extensions. Roberto So if you have an idea I would be thankfull. Are you working with the mediawiki sources, because the reason I do this was to fix a couple of problems I have found. Jan. On 23 October 2012 10:06, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked for a newer source, since it was moved, but our own extensions has a broken link and sourceForge does not offer any help. Any ideas ?? Hi Jan, I don't think I've received any request from you, please let me know what's the problem, and I'll do my best to help you. Roberto It is a sun part, so we should have inherited it or not ? jan. On 20 October 2012 23:52, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit confused. We have a directory named main/swext/mediawiki. Is that the sun wiki publisher 1.1 or are there 2 different mediawiki export extensions ? I ask because I sun wiki publisher 1.1 installed, but if I change the XLS and rebuilt AOO but it does not seem to have an effect. Yes I think it was started on core, and then sent to a separate extensions. Same thing happened with smarttags IIRC. Either I make a wrong assumption or life is not so simple as I would it to be :-) thanks in advance. jan. -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:49 AM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. I have not sent a specific request to you, but asked it as a general question (because I did not know who to ask). In the meantime, I found out that the sources in swext/mediawiki are in use, so I have compiled AOO with --enable-wiki-publisher. As far as I know http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/wikipublisher is based on 2009 source code, and it has not been updated since. Now my only problem is that, when I install the ocx via extension manager, I get a dialog box, stating that there might be a problem with description.xml because there is a license problem. I have tried to configure --with-lang=en, and rebuilt AOO, but that does not seem to help. I have no clue about why you get warnings, but I'm pretty sure this is not related to Extensions. Roberto So if you have an idea I would be thankfull. Are you working with the mediawiki sources, because the reason I do this was to fix a couple of problems I have found. Jan. On 23 October 2012 10:06, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked for a newer source, since it was moved, but our own extensions has a broken link and sourceForge does not offer any help. Any ideas ?? Hi Jan, I don't think I've received any request from you, please let me know what's the problem, and I'll do my best to help you. Roberto It is a sun part, so we should have inherited it or not ? jan. On 20 October 2012 23:52, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit confused. We have a directory named main/swext/mediawiki. Is that the sun wiki publisher 1.1 or are there 2 different mediawiki export extensions ? I ask because I sun wiki publisher 1.1 installed, but if I change the XLS and rebuilt AOO but it does not seem to have an effect. Yes I think it was started on core, and then sent to a separate extensions. Same thing happened with smarttags IIRC. Either I make a wrong assumption or life is not so simple as I would it to be :-) thanks in advance. jan. -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Automatically Generated extension.update.xml
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:33 PM, imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw wrote: So, who is managing extensions.openoffice.org? Is it possible that we can turn on the online update and try to solve this problem now? When an extension is loaded on extensions.openoffice.org the XML file is automatically built correctly. Apparently this was causing traffic problems as well as functional issues '(for example, if only the Windows version of an extension is updated also Mac/LInux users would get the information that an update is now available). As far as I know at some point Oracle started using empty XML files indicating that there are no updates. We might have a look at the code, do some performance testing and eventually get it back. I will add this to the list of the 'nice to have' features/changes I'll cover at Apache Con session dedicated to Extensions and Templates. Roberto On 2012/10/22 19:27, Jürgen Schmidt said: On 10/21/12 11:13 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: imacat wrote: I wonder if it is possible to generate the extension update information files extension.update.xml automatically on http://extensions.openoffice.org, instead of maintaining the update information files by the authors manually? This requires a slightly complex answer since there are differences between theory and practice. In theory, when you upload an extension to extensions.openoffice.org, you needn't provide an update XML file: the repository knows about the mechanism and automatically generates it. Moreover, OpenOffice knows where to ask for the update so, if you use the official repository to host your extension, updates will magically work with no need of actions from the developer (not even specify an update URL), aside possibly from making sure that the version number always increases. In practice, the process is broken. The point where it breaks is the fact that extensions.openoffice.org does not provide the real update information but it sends a hardcoded answer instead, saying that no updates are available. This was done back in the Oracle times for some reasons - probably traffic, but I have no clue here, maybe it was just broken. Fact is, what you ask for is already available in theory and I have seen it working for a period before it was disabled in 2010. But it isn't available in practice at the moment, and it hasn't been for years. On the application side (the OpenOffice program) everything should still be working, even though I've recently seen an issue where Ariel explained we might have some regressions on the OpenOffice side too: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121201 mmh, I was not ware that this function was disabled in 2010 and I don't know the reason for it. But Roberto has explained it quite well and the idea behind it was exactly that for extensions hosted in our repo the update information is generated automatically and the extensions shouldn't add further update information in their description.xml. We should figure out if the mechanism still works and should enable it. Ariel reported indeed a problem with his updates but we have to check this in general because I at least was not able to reproduce all reported problems. But this is a separate issue and have to fixed independently. Juergen -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ Greenfoot Taiwan http://greenfoot.westart.tw/ -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Directory main/swext/mediawiki
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:24 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I have looked for a newer source, since it was moved, but our own extensions has a broken link and sourceForge does not offer any help. Any ideas ?? Hi Jan, I don't think I've received any request from you, please let me know what's the problem, and I'll do my best to help you. Roberto It is a sun part, so we should have inherited it or not ? jan. On 20 October 2012 23:52, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 2:50 PM, jan iversen jancasacon...@gmail.com wrote: I am a bit confused. We have a directory named main/swext/mediawiki. Is that the sun wiki publisher 1.1 or are there 2 different mediawiki export extensions ? I ask because I sun wiki publisher 1.1 installed, but if I change the XLS and rebuilt AOO but it does not seem to have an effect. Yes I think it was started on core, and then sent to a separate extensions. Same thing happened with smarttags IIRC. Either I make a wrong assumption or life is not so simple as I would it to be :-) thanks in advance. jan. -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Estimating contributors by looking at wiki accounts?
Sent from my iPhone On 19/ott/2012, at 18:37, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: +1 all around. This sounds like it would be more interesting on the ooo-marketing@ list, since it's more about telling the story of who helps make AOO. With a project with as many different kinds of end users as AOO has, accurate stats like these would be good, if you want to go generate them. Plus, I like numbers. 8-) The most useful thing about generating them would be showing exactly how they're generated, with code (if any), and being very clear - as you suggest - at what the specific numbers mean. Openness in the way you generate the details is key to ensuring people know exactly what you're measuring. I think Mwiki has REST API that gives XML out. But I'd need to check. - Shane P.S. Is there already a chart of auto-upgrade downloads anywhere? Just curious. Not yet. But it is something I've been trying to figure out. SourceForge numbers don't report it, but if you correlate the SF numbers with the website numbers from Google Analytics (we send users to a special update URL) I think we can estimate it. But getting charts means I need to figure how to automate it on both the GA and SF sides. I'll be happy to help with that, early next week I ll have a look at that. Roberto But note that AOO 3.4.0 shipped with auto-update checking *disabled* by default (Doh!). So the AOO 3.4.0 -- 3.4.1 auto update numbers there are going to be modest compared to the numbers from OOo 3.3.0 users upgrading to AOO 3.4.x. Of course, many users will hear about the new releases via other means. We see that in the strong AOO 3.4.1 download numbers. -Rob On 10/19/2012 11:38 AM, jan iversen wrote: I think your idea of filtering out account that actually contributed is a wise thing, especially because our product has many end-users that want to be informed but do not contribute. As a developer I do not care, but thinking of some of the ongoing discussions in other forums (like: nearly nobody contributes to AOO anymore because Apache rules makes it far to difficult and restrictive), makes it worth while to publish a figure on our web, especially a figure saying e.g. during the last year we had xxx active contributors and xx active committers. jan. On 19 October 2012 17:28, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I recently saw another open source project claim that they had over 3000 contributors. They derived this estimate by looking at the number of user accounts they had in their wiki. That is quite clever, I thought. Since we use the same wiki software, I thought I'd check this metric for us. Our wiki says we have over 58,000 user accounts. I know we're doing well, but would it really make sense to claim that we have over 58,000 contributors? I don't think so. I suppose we could look only at accounts where the person has actually contributed edits, or even recent edits. (MediaWiki is a well-known target of registration spam). Although the other project did not seem to filter out inactive or unused accounts, I think the metrics are meaningless unless we do that. What do you think? Or do we even care? -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Extensions Directory and New API mailing list
I will send it later today, sure. Roberto Sent from my iPhone On 10/ott/2012, at 13:50, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Hello Roberto, Hopefully you saw the announcement of the new ooo-api mailing list. The focus for this would be application developers working with OpenOffice. I imagine it should be a useful list for any extension author to join. Is there any way we can promote this at the Extensions Repository? I see that you already have a link to the Extensions wiki at the top of http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/. I've updated that wiki page to point to the new mailing list. One additional thing that would help is if you could send an invitation to the authors of the extensions already in the repository. For example, a variation on the note I sent to the mailing list: Extension Authors, you are invited to join the Apache OpenOffice API mailing list There is a new mailing list in the Apache OpenOffice project --- ooo-...@incubator.apache.org. The focus of this list is for discussions related to OpenOffice macros, scripting and extensions. All topics related to application development with OpenOffice are welcome, including questions, suggestions for app-dev features in future releases, or even to tell us about your latest great extension. To join the list you should send an email to: ooo-api-subscr...@incubator.apache.org and then respond to the confirmation email you will receive. I hope to see you there soon! Regards, XXX Finally, for new extension author registrations, it might be good to add a reference to this mailing list to the confirmation email that is sent out to new site registrations. Thanks! -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Need Apache Member/Officer to submit list creation request (Was: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community)
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de wrote: Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 08, 2012 at 12:17:31PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Did anyone ever get a notification on this? I just tried subscribing to ooo-api@i.a.o and it said I was already subscribed. So it looks like the list was created. But I expected some notification. It would be nice if someone could post a notification on the user forum, there is a macro and programming section there, AFAIK. I was planning on getting the word out on the new list. I can include the forums, ooo-dev, ooo-users. Also, I was going to work with Roberto to see if we can send a note out to the existing extension authors via SourceForge. Sure, just let me know what should we tell them. Roberto Please include ooo-announce too. On the website I'll add to: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html Done. Any place else? Maybe update this page: http://www.openoffice.org/api/ ?? (It looks like it needs many updates. Perhaps something we can discuss on the new mailing list!) Done. On http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Extensions_development because it is the first result item, if you search for OpenOffice extension development. Done. Next step the mailing lists. -Rob Kind regards Regina -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [VOTE][PMC] PMC Chair
[X] Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: +1 for Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Best regards, Oliver. On 05.10.2012 01:41, Andrew Rist wrote: This is a call for vote on selecting the PMC Chair the Apache OpenOffice PMC. Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] the Apache OpenOffice podling needs to select a PMC to be listed in the TLP resolution. Everyone in the community is encouraged to vote. Votes from PPMC members and Mentors are binding. This vote will run 72-hours. The balloting will be until UTC midnight Sunday, 7 October: 2012-10-07T24:00Z. [ ] Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) [ ] Drew Jensen (atjensen) The [DISCUSS] for this vote can be found at [2] and [3]. Note: Andrea has accepted the nomination - Drew has not responded. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel [2]http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201210.mbox/%3c506a1e72.20...@oracle.com%3E [3]http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201209.mbox/%3c5064c859.9090...@oracle.com%3E -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Seeking OpenOffice consultants -- help us validate our new consultants listings
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 October 2012 17:59, Guy Waterval waterval@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, 2012/10/3 Ian Lynch ianrly...@gmail.com The one issue that arises here is that the term certification could mean certificated to be an authorised developer, trainer or consultant as well as certificated as a competent user of say Writer. This certainly seems to have caused confusion in the past and across at LibreO. However, unless AOO provides some sort of certification of companies authorised to act under its Logo (which seems counter to ASF policy) I doubt certification of companies will be relevant whereas qualifications for individuals are traditionally delivered by third parties so that is more likely to be the take up. I'm not sure to have good understood all this discussion, but these questions of certification could have some importance for companies. By my former employer, we had a quality system (GLP) and all our studies had to be made following the rules of this quality sytem to can be internationally recognized. For instance, we had to validate all the spreasheeds used to calculate the results of our studies and our developments. This long administrativ process had to be registered and repeated if we changed the version of the soft for a new one. Moreover, all the technicians involved in the studies had to prove they have been trained with the soft. So, the certification of trainings is a question that we can't perhaps ignore in the future. It has perhaps not the same importance for the end users but it's another question for companies which have to prove that their employees have been teached to fit the requirements of their quality system. Only my opinion and my apologizes for the noise if I haven't completely understood the sense of this thread. A+ Hi Guy, It all depends on whether there is market demand and someone in a position to meet that demand. We don't really want a lot of items that never get any interest but we do want to be able to include as many as possible. Probably needs a different thread for detailed discussion of certification. The main objective in this thread is to work out the scope for the taxonomy Rob is developing for consultants in general. I'm thinking keeping things simple within what we know from the previous methods with OOo is best. Rob's clear, clean start looks good to me. Agree, Rob did an excellent job, and keep it simple seems key to me. Certification is a delicate subject, it has been discussed few times in the past - at least in the Italian community - and consensus maybe challenging. Let's see what we can do. Roberto -- Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. Reg No: 05560797, Registered in England and Wales. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [VOTE] [PMC] Starting Membership for Apache OpenOffice PMC
[X] +1 approve On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: [X] +1 approve Peter On 10/2/2012 12:38 AM, Andrew Rist wrote: This is a call for vote on selecting the following list as the starting membership for the Apache OpenOffice PMC, to be listed in the TLP resolution. The voting is for the entire slate as listed. Apache OpenOffice PMC Starting Membership: Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) The balloting will be until UTC midnight Thursday, 4 October: 2012-10-04T24:00Z. Approval requires a majority of +1 over -1 votes cast by members of the PPMC. [ ] +1 approve [ ] 0 abstain [ ] -1 disapprove, for the following reasons: The [DISCUSS] for this vote was enthusiastically in favor. There were no concerns expressed other than issues with the timeframe of discussions, which were suitably extended. (note: All members of this list, except for Drew and Raphael, accepted their nomination to this list. I have left Drew and Raphael on the list as neither declined, and they still have the ability to decline later) -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Some stats and observations on OpenOffice upgrades
On 27/set/2012, at 08:28, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Rob Weir wrote: In any case, when we do a user survey it might be good to put in some questions targeting OOo 3.3.0 users who have not upgraded. I've heard suggestions in this thread that Base quality might be an issue. Another might be language support, since OOo 3.3.0 supported many more languages than AOO 3.4.1 does. What about crafting a short survey - 5 questions or so - and send it out? It's a good idea. But remember that we control the URLs people connect to when upgrading, so we could actually route the users who start the upgrade process to one or two questions (a polite form of Where did you get your current copy of OpenOffice? / Why didn't you upgrade earlier?) before proceeding with the actual download from the SourceForge mirrors. I believe we can help with the survey, for example we might ask our newsletter readers (over a million) to fill it in. We can also use Sourceforge apache OpenOffice placements for that. Roberto And this could be done already now, even though we would possibly need to place the survey (or at least the script collecting the answers) on a different server since the current environment might not allow it. Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [PROPOSAL] Reinvigorate extension authors community
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:34 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, I'm shifting my focus more to the extended OpenOffice ecosystem rather than day-to-day release-cycle tasks. One of the things I'd like to push for is reinvigorating the application development community. In the legacy project we supported extensions authors via a dedicated mailing list, a wiki, its own IRC channel, and of course the extensions repository website. Today we have very little of that active. I'd like to breath some new life into this part of the ecosystem. Now that we have a steady heartbeat of releases, both delivered and planned, and a solid record of end-user downloads, it is easier to argue the value of developing extensions for OpenOffice. I'd like to help promote this side of the ecosystem via the following tasks: 1) Create a new mailing list: ooo-extensi...@incubator.apache.org (or app...@incubator.apache.org if we prefer). I'll assert that the current mailing lists are inadequate for encouraging this community to thrive. If they interact on ooo-dev then they are bombarded with 99% irrelevant posts, and if they gather on ooo-users then this will be disruptive to the end-user subscribers there. Extension authors really are a distinct sub-community of their own. 2) Promote the mailing list via the usual means: website, social networking, maybe a blog post. 3) Try to contact the existing extension authors, to encourage them to joint the list. I'd try to do this via SourceForge initially, since they might already have the means to send them all an email. Sure. As you might remember we already sent a note to all Extensions' and Templates' users at migration time, and we might do it again. 4) Promote AOO extension development in general, by interviews of extension authors, blog posts, perhaps even a rotating spot on our website featuring an extension of the week (or day). 5) Encourage this community to provide feedback to the project and help maintain the current app dev and SDK documentation, website and wiki. If there are no objections to the above I'll go ahead with step 1 in 72 hours. I'll need a couple more list moderator volunteers as well. I'm open to help. Roberto And of course, if anyone wants to help with other parts of the above, or complimentary tasks, please let me know. Regards, -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Some stats and observations on OpenOffice upgrades
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 03:06:12PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: I've been looking at the upgrade numbers, the downloads that are triggered from upgrade notifications in the OpenOffice client. Although we are not tracking how many times such notifications pop up in the OpenOffice client we do know from Google Analytics how many users click the link to get more information on the update, and how many of these users actually download the upgrade. The trends have been pretty steady, a slight peak when a release is initially made, but a lingering steady state of upgrade requests even several weeks later. For example, let's look at the status for a single day, last Wednesday, Sept. 19th. On that date we had 164,752 total downloads of AOO. Of those downloads, it looks like 54% of them come from upgrading users. The remainder are either from new users, or existing users that went to the website directly rather than from an upgrade notification. (No easy way of distinguishing these two). The interesting thing is the breakdown by OpenOffice client version. For the upgrade installs on Sept 19th we see: 31% of upgrades were from AOO 3.4.0 52% of upgrades were from OOo 3.3.0 15% of upgrades were from OOo 3.2.1 3% of upgrades were from OOo 3.2.0 Note the OOo 3.3.0 numbers. Nearly 4 months after AOO 3.4 was released we are still getting large numbers of OOo 3.3.0 users receiving and responding to upgrade notifications, nearly 20,000/day. I'm not sure how to explain this. Upgrade notifications should surface once a week. Maybe: With free software, many people often wait for micro releases, which usually are bug fixes releases. If there were a large pre-existing number of OOo 3.3.0 users, and they only slowly upgraded, then I'd expect to see regular OOo 3.3 - AOO 3.4 upgrades, but that this would be slowly declining over time. This is because the number of upgrades would be proportionate to the number of OOo 3.3. users: upgradesPerDay = NumOOoUsers * constantUpgradeRate And over time NumOOoUsers would slowly diminish. But we're not seeing that. Except for the spike when AOO 3.4 first came out, the rate of OOo 3.3 upgrades has remained nearly constant. To me this suggests either: 1) We're in a steady state configuration, where there is a new source of OOo 3.3.0 users coming into the system, 40,000 or so per day. This could be explained if sites like openoffice.fm are attracting that many users and offering them old versions of OpenOffice. If we get 160K/day downloads in general, it is possible that sites that advertise on Google, Bing, Twitter, etc., would get at least 40,000. It is plausible that this could be a source of ongoing installs of old versions of OpenOffice. or 2) The number of OOo 3.3 users is so large, and constantUpgradeRate is so slow, that the reduction in the pool of existing OOo 3.3 users is not obvious in the charts yet. Legacy estimates where that there were 100 million OOo 3.3 users. We're getting close to 20 million for AOO 3.4. So that would account for only 20%. It looks like LO has less than that. So that would leave the majority of OOo 3.3.0 users unaccounted for, potentially still on OOo 3.3. In any case, when we do a user survey it might be good to put in some questions targeting OOo 3.3.0 users who have not upgraded. I've heard suggestions in this thread that Base quality might be an issue. Another might be language support, since OOo 3.3.0 supported many more languages than AOO 3.4.1 does. What about crafting a short survey - 5 questions or so - and send it out? May be first we need to brainstorm a little bit more the possible reasons, though. Roberto -Rob Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [proposed PMC] call for feedback: Are you willing to serve as a PMC member?
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Please provide feedback, if you are willing to serve as a PMC member. Andre Fischer (af) Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) I am willing to serve as a PMC member. Andrew Rist (arist) Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) Armin Le Grand (alg) Dave Fisher (wave) Donald Harbison (dpharbison) Drew Jensen (atjensen) Ian Lynch (ingotian) Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) Marcus Lange (marcus) Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) Pedro Giffuni (pfg) Peter Junge (pj) Raphael Bircher (rbircher) Regina Henschel (regina) RGB.ES (rgb-es) Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) I am willing to serve as a PMC member. Roberto Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Torrent connection for AOo 3.4.x download
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org wrote: But I could ask my brother if he is willing to setup a torrent tracker for us. He was working on the torrent at the old OOo project. I'm willing to host a seeding peer Wouldn´t this impact on the tracking of downloads? I mean... the SourceForge download stats will no longer be the true download count. How would Apache track torrent downloads and add the numbers to the SF.net stats?. I think this is a valid concern... It depends on the infrastructure you use to serve torrents. Most of them provide the total number of downloads. The Apache OpenOffice download counter uses SF APIs, it should just add those to the total. Roberto Plus, torrents are good to save on bandwidth, but lack of bandwidth with SF.net´s network of world-wide mirrors doesn´t seem to be the case here. So, again, why the need for a torrent?. because it´s cool doesn´t hold, IMHO... FC -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [EXT] MySQL SDBC Connector
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hi Mechtilde, On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:38:42AM +0200, Mechtilde wrote: thanks for the good job. So it is possible to use further the mysql-connector. Can you also publish the source code for the connector. Then other people are also able to distribute it. I'm working on it, I have to investigate if a can let the license header we use in AOO (I also added it to the files I added). I've just enabled the Source tab on the project, it can be cloned with: git clone https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/aoo-my-sdbc/ A source tarball will have to wait until I solve this license thing, and write the readme, notice, license, etc., and the extension is ready to be release (it isn't still ready for a release). If anyone is willing to contribute with code, qa, bug report, please send me a note (you will need a google account). Hi Ariel, would you be interested in managing the AOO Extension page dedicated to the MySQL connector? At the present stage is unmaintained, I believe you'd be the 'natural' candidate for that. Roberto Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Open-office downloading site - FLV player advertisement
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: actually in different geographies are displayed different ads, and I need the actual URL to eventually report internally issues with malware. Can you help me with that? Yes, sure, destination URL is http://googleads.g.doubleclick.net/aclk?sa=lai=BCRkjin46UKfLB-Oh6AHC3YDADcewquYCx6ODs0-_z4ayggGgnAEQARgBIOHmmwI4AFDPo7Wh-P8BYKGAgIAooAGxsdPfA7IBD3NvdXJjZWZvcmdlLm5ldLoBETMwMHgyNTBfcGFzX2FiZ25jyAEC2gGNAWh0dHA6Ly9zb3VyY2Vmb3JnZS5uZXQvcHJvamVjdHMvb3Blbm9mZmljZW9yZy5taXJyb3IvZmlsZXMvc3RhYmxlLzMuNC4xL0FwYWNoZV9PcGVuT2ZmaWNlX2luY3ViYXRpbmdfMy40LjFfV2luX3g4Nl9pbnN0YWxsX2VuLVVTLmV4ZS9kb3dubG9hZPgBAcACCcgCp8fbIqgDAfUDAAQAgPUDEKAGAuAGv4uhIQnum=1sig=AOD64_2QTgRUfp_AjSv0IdpcBux87BneTAclient=ca-ostg_jsadurl=http://www.superbvideoconverter.com/gb/si/%3Fadnm%3D21227763559%26i%3Ds%26grid%3DA%26lg%3DEN%26cc%3DAR%26clg%3Den%26c%3D1%26d%3D1%26cid%3D_97893889%26kw%3D%26mn%3Dsourceforge.net%26Network%3DD%26expr%3D%26agid%3D_9599537584 Think this is a different one, though. Supervideoconverter seems to be virus-free. Also FLV videoplayer, at least the one I have been able to find googling, seems to be virus-free. It must be said that without the exact URL I can't check if that version of FLV videoplayer is virus-free. Roberto And source image is http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/simgad/15861613925973749392 cached for the record, here: http://the13thfloor.org/sf-rogue-adverts/ and fwiw I get that while coming from an Argentina IP (186.142.241.x subnet - Claro FFTH - www.claro.com.ar) FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 7:22 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sun, 2012-08-26 at 19:17 +0200, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: Also, I wonder if it would be worth submitting a patch for Apache. It looks like they have the other content types used by OpenOffice, but not oxt files: http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/** conf/mime.types http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/mime.types Actually, it seems it's already been there for a while: $ svn annotate mime.types | grep oxt 571614 fielding application/vnd.openofficeorg.**extension oxt $ svn log | grep 571614 r571614 | fielding | 2007-08-31 23:57:29 +0200(ven, 31 ago 2007) | 3 lines and if I put an extension on my people.apache.org account I see it's served correctly (of course, this has nothing to do with the problem under discussion; but if problems come from an incorrect MIME type, then people reporting the problem should be able to download http://people.apache.org/~**pescetti/tmp/dict-it.oxt http://people.apache.org/%7Epescetti/tmp/dict-it.oxt correctly). I confirm your suspects, it's a MIME config issue. I tested SourceForge master, that works just fine, but not all mirrors do manage it correctly. As a short-term solution for all extensions - either hosted at SourceForge or at third party website - we report the following note: *Note: some browsers may download the extension as a .zip file; if this happens rename the downloaded file from .zip to .oxt* We can then run a communication plan to inform both mirror and third-parties. Hi, Yes - very good idea on the notice. On the mime config, if I can help with this anyway - for example if there is a list of the mirrors available through the extension download site I have a copy of IE/Vista which faithfully produces the .zip file for octect/streams and I would be willing to try it on all the mirrors.. I'd think reporting on success would best be to you direct, I wouldn't want to come off as demanding here (@Roberto - if that would help, I will). Thanks Drew, but we have already scripts for that. Roberto Unless - I'm assuming it is not that ning servers don't support it, is it worth the time (I'll do so if someone thinks so) to actually check at the project? Best, //drew Roberto Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 25, 2012, at 6:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Dave Fisher wrote: Has anyone inspected the MIME Type returned? If it is not a proper one for OXT then it is possible that IE8 is doing detection of the type. I had different results than Dave's, and I concluded I see different MIME types depending on the mirror I get, so this depends on how each individual mirror used by SourceForge is configured. Example with repeated attempts (strings are in Italian but it's easy to understand that the first and last one are right, the other mirrors are not): Good work. I'm copying Roberto on this, since it sounds like this will need a configuration change on the SourceForge side. Also, I wonder if it would be worth submitting a patch for Apache. It looks like they have the other content types used by OpenOffice, but not oxt files: http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/mime.types That makes sense although it won't help in this case as the mirror is: Server: nginx/1.0.14 Might need to submit the patch there as well. That extension is hosted by a third party, I'm afraid I couldn't help much in this case, though. Roberto Regards, Dave -Rob $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://ignum.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/vnd.openofficeorg.extension] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/octet-stream] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://heanet.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/octet-stream] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://dfn.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/octet-stream] $ wget http://extensions.openoffice.org/e-files/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt Posizione: http://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt [segue] Lunghezza: 4899523 (4,7M) [application/vnd.openofficeorg.extension] MIME types are defined at the web server level, so the configuration for each mirror is probably responsible for this difference. Then most browsers will get it right nevertheless, but some might be tricked by receiving the generic octet-stream type and interpreting it as a valid ZIP file (which is correct, but not the best thing to do of course) before checking if it is a valid OXT file as well. A simple test could be to ask people who report problems if they get different behaviors with http://garr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt (which serves OXT as octet/stream) and http://freefr.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aoo-extensions/874/29/oracle-pdfimport.oxt (which serves OXT as application/vnd.openofficeorg.extension). Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Extension downloading problem
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: Rob Weir wrote: Also, I wonder if it would be worth submitting a patch for Apache. It looks like they have the other content types used by OpenOffice, but not oxt files: http://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/** conf/mime.typeshttp://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/httpd/httpd/trunk/docs/conf/mime.types Actually, it seems it's already been there for a while: $ svn annotate mime.types | grep oxt 571614 fielding application/vnd.openofficeorg.**extension oxt $ svn log | grep 571614 r571614 | fielding | 2007-08-31 23:57:29 +0200(ven, 31 ago 2007) | 3 lines and if I put an extension on my people.apache.org account I see it's served correctly (of course, this has nothing to do with the problem under discussion; but if problems come from an incorrect MIME type, then people reporting the problem should be able to download http://people.apache.org/~**pescetti/tmp/dict-it.oxthttp://people.apache.org/%7Epescetti/tmp/dict-it.oxt correctly). I confirm your suspects, it's a MIME config issue. I tested SourceForge master, that works just fine, but not all mirrors do manage it correctly. As a short-term solution for all extensions - either hosted at SourceForge or at third party website - we report the following note: *Note: some browsers may download the extension as a .zip file; if this happens rename the downloaded file from .zip to .oxt* We can then run a communication plan to inform both mirror and third-parties. Roberto Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Open-office downloading site - FLV player advertisement
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Jonas Küng jonas.ku...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Today I have downloaded the new open office version. Unfortunately I clicked on the big green button Download of the FLV player advertisement (see attachement with printsceen) because I thought the download of open office have not started automatically and I expected that button as one of op office. So far no problem. But then my antivirus programm indicated me twice that the downloaded file of that FLV player is infected by viruses. So pleace have a look on this advertisement. Thanks a lot Jonas Küng Hi Jonas, if you run in a similar problem please advise me about the exact URL, we need that to prevent it to happen again in the future. Thanks, Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Open-office downloading site - FLV player advertisement
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: Hi Jonas, if you run in a similar problem please advise me about the exact URL, we need that to prevent it to happen again in the future. Thanks, See the attached screenshot. The ads are part of the SF.net third party adverts, but these advertisers put a green download button on their banners... of course the adverts are for other ´products´ but as these ads are shown while the user is waiting for the download to start, the intent is evident... many users will blindly click anything that says ´download´... http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9490/sfadsgreendownloadbutto.png hope this helps FC Thanks Fernando, actually in different geographies are displayed different ads, and I need the actual URL to eventually report internally issues with malware. Can you help me with that? Roberto Roberto -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Unable to download OpenOffice via SourceForge
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 22.08.2012 08:19, Peter Pöml wrote: Am 22.08.2012 um 04:16 schrieb Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: Hi Dave, Roberto's probably long asleep at this hour, so I hope you can pass this on to someone at SourceForge who might be still up in California. We're seeing widespread download errors when downloading OpenOffice. There was probably some prep work going on to get ready for the 3.4.1 release of OpenOffice tomorrow. But access to the 3.4.0 files seems to have been disrupted. Thanks in advance for passing this info on. Regards, -Rob I am getting tons of mails from people complaining they couldn't download Apache OpenOffice from openoffice.mirrorbrain.org (!). For example via http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/** files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_**OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_** Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/**downloadhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/download Please fix these links, which are clearly broken! Peter It looks like that the download links are working again. I checked a couple of links on our download page - all are redirected to SourceForge and the download started. Really sorry for the inconvenience, as Peter Oliver confirmed it has been fixed. Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [ooo-site]
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Wilson Goh w...@allot.com wrote: Hello webmaster, there is a broken link, http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe/download Aside from the error, why is the error page this: http://openoffice.mirrorbrain.org/files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe So if a SF download fails it redirects to mirrorbrain error page? I assume we don't want this because this asks users to report the error to webmas...@mirrorbrain.org. Yesterday when we started syncing AOO 3.4.1 files, the stable files for 3.4.0 were unexpectedly re-copied due to them having a different timestamp than what we had for the files (we're not sure why the timestamp differed). This re-copy caused us to mark the files as unavailable on our mirrors (since they are treated as new files). During this time we served up some redirects to MirrorBrain, a backup mechanism we crafted earlier to push complete serving failures for OOo 3.3 back to MirrorBrain (actually never used until today). Since 3.4 files were not available on MirrorBrain - due to us not having populated the 3.4.0 release on MirrorBrain - redirected downloads didn't get served eventually. We removed this code, and instead display an error page when this condition arises, so that end-users will be asked to report to SourceForge directly. For future releases we'll exclude prior AOO releases when copying new-release files so we don't need to worry about tweaked timestamps. We will take additional measures to monitor selected files to confirm they are serving properly (with pager notification upon fault). Again, sorry for the inconvenience. Roberto -Rob ## This message is intended only for the designated recipient(s).It may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the designated recipient, you may not review, copy or distribute this message. If you have mistakenly received this message, please notify the sender by a reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you. ## -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 08/22/2012 06:15 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 08/21/2012 02:46 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 08/21/2012 11:16 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk: On 08/21/2012 01:27 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/21/12 9:19 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/21/12 7:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 5:45 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: FYI we have passed the vote on general@incubator. We can now proceed with the release preparation ... I am waiting on the ok of infrastructure to start the upload, will keep you informed when the bits are uploaded 1) 12 hours for the mirrors to sync? I am still on the final go to start the upload :-( the bits are uploaded to dist @Roberto: what do you need for SourceForge it's the same directory structure as for 3.4 see http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/ I will work on the website (http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html) tomorrow Regards Juergen Juergen 2) SourceForge can grab the tree from dist.apache.org after you have uploaded. 3) Then website updates, some brief testing to ensure the links are all working. 4) Then the announcement via all channels, including the upgrade notifications. Do we want to set a tentative time for #3 and #4, so volunteers can coordinate their availability tomorrow? -Rob I will link in the new Release Notes where it goes and post some very minor update to the Installation page tomorrow, 2012-08-22, (9:00ish PDT) if that's ok. I'm assuming Marcus will do what he's prepared at that time (tomorrow), unless we hear otherwise. OK, lets see. 09:00am PDT will be 06:00pm CET. Very likely I won't be home before 08:00pm CET (11:00am PDT). What about to set the release time to 12:00pm PDT (high noon), will this work for you all? Marcus OK, new release notes and slight tweak to install instructions are now in staging (committed not published), so when Marcus comes along in a bit and uploads the new 3.4.1 main download stuff and publishes, we should be in business. I'm basically offline for a good part of the day today, so I hope all goes well. I'm at home now and just found this mail which seems to be the latest in this thread and for the 3.4.1 release. Is everything uploaded, distributed and available for public download? I had no chance yet to check myself, so I'm simply asking. ;-) We were waiting for the sync to finish, distributing the files to the US and EU distribution servers: http://www.us.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/ and http://www.eu.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/ It looks that looks like it recently completed. Just need a go ahead from Roberto. I just chatted with Roberto. He says they are ready! So can we all get our page changes onto staging? No one publish yet. But lets get the updated announcement, release notes, and especially the updated download pages in place. We can do a quick sanity check and if no problems are found then we can publish them later tonight. I'll hold off the announcement until tomorrow morning, giving some extra time for any errors to be reported at low volume before we turn on the fire hose! For the time being AOO 3.4 is still the default, once the news is out we'll set the dafult to AOO 3.4.1. Note that the default comes into play for users downloading AOO directly from SourceForge (mostly because of the Carousel on SourceForge directory displaying the Apache OpenOffice ads). Roberto -Rob If he says it is ready on their side can move our changes to staging and do some quick testing to make sure we don't have any broken links. Actually, we can move to staging now if we want. But just be careful everyone not to publish yet. -Rob Thanks Marcus But...Juergen and Marcus's tomorrow comes much earlier than mine so I don't know exactly what time anything will be happening. Juergen Juergen Original Message Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:44:18 +0200 From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com To: gene...@incubator.apache.org sorry for posting it again but I forgot the RESULT tag in the subject On 8/21/12 5:29 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev
Re: Fwd: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 9:19 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 8/21/12 7:51 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/21/12 5:45 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: FYI we have passed the vote on general@incubator. We can now proceed with the release preparation ... I am waiting on the ok of infrastructure to start the upload, will keep you informed when the bits are uploaded 1) 12 hours for the mirrors to sync? I am still on the final go to start the upload :-( the bits are uploaded to dist Are they really all uploaded? I'm not seeing the en-US version here: http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/ And the Chinese versions are missing: http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-CN/ http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-TW/ -Rob @Roberto: what do you need for SourceForge it's the same directory structure as for 3.4 see http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/ I will work on the website (http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html) tomorrow Ok Jürgen, Once the sync is complete and accessible at http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/ let us know and we'll sync to our servers. Roberto Regards Juergen Juergen 2) SourceForge can grab the tree from dist.apache.org after you have uploaded. 3) Then website updates, some brief testing to ensure the links are all working. 4) Then the announcement via all channels, including the upgrade notifications. Do we want to set a tentative time for #3 and #4, so volunteers can coordinate their availability tomorrow? -Rob Juergen Juergen Original Message Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:44:18 +0200 From: Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com To: gene...@incubator.apache.org sorry for posting it again but I forgot the RESULT tag in the subject On 8/21/12 5:29 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 (incubating) RC2 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201208.mbox/%3C5031F593.9010801%40gmail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenOffice Community Graduation Vote
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Per the IPMC's Guide to Successful Graduation [1] this is the optional, but recommended, community vote for us to express our willingness/readiness to govern ourselves. If this vote passes then we continue by drafting a charter, submitting it for IPMC endorsement, and then to the ASF Board for final approval. Details can be found in the Guide to Successful Graduation. Everyone in the community is encouraged to vote. Votes from PPMC members and Mentors are binding. This vote will run 72-hours. [ ] +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. [ ] +0 Don't care. [ ] -1 Apache OpenOffice community is not ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator because... +1 Apache OpenOffice community is ready to graduate from the Apache Incubator. Roberto Regards, -Rob [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [RELEASE]: release preparation
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Jürgen, On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 01:35:34PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, as you have probably noticed I have started a VOTE for our AOO 3.4.1 release. We should prepare everything for next week to have it in place if the 2 VOTEs (PPMC + IPMC) will pass successful. ToDo's 1. Release Notes, already available. Potentially some updates or improvements have to be integrated 2. upload of the binaries on dist - prepared and ready to start 3. changing the download page, adapt download logic - ??? 3.1 changed logic for the former 3.4 download - they move to archive.apache.org - do we need to change something, we download via Sourceforge? 4. prepare announcement for the announcement list and the various social medias 5. ... what else? We should upload the three official extensions to the extensions repository: 1) Presentation Minimizer 2) Presenter Console 3) MediaWiki Publisher These are in the source package, but we did not have an opportunity to VOTE on and inspect these binaries did we? Some extensions were included in the binaries, installed automatically as part of the main product install. They look like integrated parts of the UI. You can see Presentation Manager in Impress, under Tools/Minimize Presentation. I'm pretty sure the Presenter Console requires two displays, so I can't see it. The question is how we take the extensions in standalone form and put them in other common repositories? Would this be analogous to what Java-based projects do with Maven? They build and release a larger source and binary distribution for their release, and that release distribution might contain several related libraries. And after the release is made a volunteer uploads the individual libraries to the central maven repository, How is that done with Maven central repository? Does the project do that officially? Or someone just does that individually? We do it officially in Apache POI. See https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/poi/trunk/maven/. We've voted on these artifacts as well. I think that if we have Extensions that are packaged separately they can be distributed in similar manner to the source, sdk, and binary distros. They do need a VOTE thread and then verifiable. I don't think they are packaged separately, at least not at the source level. In other words, we don't have a source package for them that is separate from the full AOO 3.4.1. source packages. And I doubt that in binary form they are self-contained release artifacts, each with their own LICENSE and NOTICE files. Although this could technically be done, to turn these into real release artifacts, I'm not sure it would be worth the effort of doing this, especially if anyone one of us can just upload the extensions to the repository without further effort. Just in case, that's what is needed to be done. Chose an account name, to be associated to an email address (not shown) here: http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/user/register Let us know on ooo-dev the account name, we'll associate the following extensions to that account. http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/PresentationMinimizer http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/presenter-screen http://extensions.openoffice.org/en/project/wikipublisher Doing so those extensions won't be associated to Oracle nor Sun, as of today. Roberto In any case, for these extensions I think the plan is to more fully integrate them into the product in the future. We can follow the AOO341 release with an Extensions Release. Certainly not objections if someone wants to do that. -Rob Regards, Dave -Rob In addition to being on the extensions site they'll need to be on Apache Mirrors as part of the release. Regards, Dave I guess they shouldn't be uploaded by an individual: they are officially supported; so would it be possible to create an Apache OO i Project user? Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Two new stats graphs: ooo-dev subscribers and committers
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/ooo-dev-subscribers.html and http://www.openoffice.org/stats/committers.html I'm getting the hang of this, so if there is any other data that is easy to extract on a regular basis, I can make charts for these. OK. I fixed the typos that Andrea noted. These are great! What can we do to make them more easy to find? Maybe we can turn the main ooo/stats/index.html page into a directory of stats, each one on its own page? But then the stats project is not prominently linked either. But there are ways we can fix that as well. If we can get a few good stats pages up it might even be worth having a blog post on them. While the Apache Allura podling is just started http://incubator.apache.org/projects/allura.html, some developers of the LibreSoft and FLOSSMetrics fame manifested interest in extending the forge with tools to compute/show metrics. I'll keep you updated on how it goes on, maybe Apache Allura could help AOO to extract and visualize some interesting stats. Roberto The technical requirement is that they need to be formed into a CSV file with each row like this: iso-date, data-1, data-2,data-n For example see this data file: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/aoo34-downloads.txt If there are multiple data points for each date, they can be displayed on the same or separate charts. Any suggestions? Bug find/fix rates? This one would definitely be good to graph...but I'm not sure how to approach it. I just did a search on bug fix rates and well...an interesting cast of ideas If we can get a report of new bugs by creation date, and closed bugs by fix date, then we can get the data series we need. Forum posts/subscribers? Commits? Regards, -Rob -- MzK Never express yourself more clearly than you are able to think. -- Niels Bohr -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Extensions and Templates New Features
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.comwrote: On 8/13/12 4:17 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: 1) Download statistics are now automatically obtained via the SourceForge API and are more reliable than the old system, in which the counters had been turned off and remained stuck for a long time Great! 3) we completely removed the legacy OpenOffice.org authentication and inserted updated, localizable explanations both on Extensions and Templates. The last open issues have now been closed. Is it possible to translate Timeline? In french, you could set Historique. Thanks As a one-shot request it's now fixed, see: http://extensions.openoffice.org/fr http://templates.openoffice.org/fr/most_popular For the future I'd like to workout similar request via Pootle with Apache Infra, though. Of course we're open to generate all the PO files needed. that is a good idea and we have to analyze how it can work. But we have to solve the Pootle issue first and have to ensure that the Pootle server is running and working as expected. Currently it is not working 100% and we have to solve this issue with infra together... Sure, my intention was only to communicate our will to help in that direction, we'll move on when appropriate. Best, Roberto Juergen -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Extensions and Templates New Features
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:12 AM, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote: 1) Download statistics are now automatically obtained via the SourceForge API and are more reliable than the old system, in which the counters had been turned off and remained stuck for a long time Great! Is it possible to translate Timeline? In french, you could set Historique. Thanks As a one-shot request it's now fixed, see: http://extensions.openoffice.org/fr http://templates.openoffice.org/fr/most_popular For the future I'd like to workout similar request via Pootle with Apache Infra, though. Of course we're open to generate all the PO files needed. Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Extensions and Templates New Features
On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 3:17 PM, RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/9 Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net: Below what's new, I also blogged about that at SourceForge blog. 1) Download statistics are now automatically obtained via the SourceForge API and are more reliable than the old system, in which the counters had been turned off and remained stuck for a long time due to inaccuracies in the counting procedures and incompatibilities with cache system. By the way, the SourceForge API is the same system used for the official Apache OpenOffice counter downloads. Additionally, since we can’t calculate statistics for externally hosted extensions as reliably, their download counters have been removed and they won’t appear in the “Most Popular Extensions” listings. This is also the case for Commercial extensions with no public releases. Note that the default home page of the Extensions site has been set back to Most Popular Extensions, as we believe that newcomers would probably benefit from having the top extensions in the home page. To provide visitors only meaningful statistics, the daily download numbers have been replaced by a link to a timeline with real-time statistics, charts and analysis. 2) The new antispam system is now online on the Extensions site. We’ve tested it extensively. Since the live site receives up to 50 spam submissions per day it was pretty easy to figure out if it was working properly. It has been in operation for over a week and so far has proved very effective. For end-users this means meaningful comments are more visible and the possibility of adding comments if needed (something we had to temporarily block for some titles because of the spam). 3) We updated the graphic theme of the site and the primary links to reflect the new name and new logo for Apache OpenOffice. In this way visitors can more easily identify these sites as the official repositories of OpenOffice Extensions and Templates, and they can be confident that they are still maintained. Roberto Great news! The spam disappeared from the site. It seems to work pretty well, glad you noticed! A quick question: which is the best way for an user to report problems found on the site? Actually the Contact us link at the bottom of the page brings the user to a page suggesting to contact the Forum, the author or SourceForge community team respectively for General questions about this website or extensions/templates, A particular extension/template and Technical questions regarding this website. For some reasons we receive few emails posing questions about the extensions/templates, I tend to reply if I know the answer, otherwise I suggest them to use the forum. Roberto Regards Ricardo -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Extensions and Templates New Features
Below what's new, I also blogged about that at SourceForge blog. 1) Download statistics are now automatically obtained via the SourceForge API and are more reliable than the old system, in which the counters had been turned off and remained stuck for a long time due to inaccuracies in the counting procedures and incompatibilities with cache system. By the way, the SourceForge API is the same system used for the official Apache OpenOffice counter downloads. Additionally, since we can’t calculate statistics for externally hosted extensions as reliably, their download counters have been removed and they won’t appear in the “Most Popular Extensions” listings. This is also the case for Commercial extensions with no public releases. Note that the default home page of the Extensions site has been set back to Most Popular Extensions, as we believe that newcomers would probably benefit from having the top extensions in the home page. To provide visitors only meaningful statistics, the daily download numbers have been replaced by a link to a timeline with real-time statistics, charts and analysis. 2) The new antispam system is now online on the Extensions site. We’ve tested it extensively. Since the live site receives up to 50 spam submissions per day it was pretty easy to figure out if it was working properly. It has been in operation for over a week and so far has proved very effective. For end-users this means meaningful comments are more visible and the possibility of adding comments if needed (something we had to temporarily block for some titles because of the spam). 3) We updated the graphic theme of the site and the primary links to reflect the new name and new logo for Apache OpenOffice. In this way visitors can more easily identify these sites as the official repositories of OpenOffice Extensions and Templates, and they can be confident that they are still maintained. Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: investigation using Google Webmaster tools
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/01/2012 04:29 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all -- I am exploring the www.openoffice.site using the Google Webmaster tool that Rob told us about on Jul 19. I am ONLY getting started by looking at the 62,962 404 errors (!) Many of these are links to VERY old docs which we no longer have -- like source trees for 1.0.1, 1.0.2 etc.-- or have to do with the OLD architecture -- servlet references etc. If I understand this correctly, Google is looking at links on webpages, not just our webpages, but also links from 3rd party websites, and if they point to an openoffice.org page that doesn't exist, it shows up on this list. This could happen for any reason. In some cases the original link might have had a typo. yes, this is correct, and you are right about this too...some of the 404s reference pages we probably NEVER had. Some of this issues could be solved with rather extensive use of sym links (yes, you can actually use these in svn -- kind of) and of course some not -- many missing old security bulletins. For the security bulletins, I wonder if this is actually a redirection error. We have many of them here: http://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin.html ah...yes, they are there...the problem is we would need to construct a LOT of just redirect pages to right some of these since they all seem to have the form /security/cvs-bulletin-number.html So let's take a specific example. Google is reporting a 404 error for this URL: http://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin-20060629.html It is linked to from from at least 10 external web pages, for example the last link in this table: http://www.ccip.govt.nz/vulnerability-alerts/archives/2006/AlertArchive0607.html (Whoops, make that at least 12 links, since the Apache and MarkMail list archives will now link to this) There is no file of this name in https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/security/ Looking at the svn log I don't see any record of the files ever being here. I searched the complete ooo-site tree and this file (bulletin-20060629.html) doesn't exist anywhere. The Wayback Machine shows the page did exist in 2006: http://web.archive.org/web/20060703040511/http://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin-20060629.html But it was broken already by 2009: http://web.archive.org/web/20091006090657/http://www.openoffice.org/security/bulletin-20060629.html So this is a pre-existing problem, and nothing we can do about it. Ughh. Obviously we cannot do this kind of research for every one of the 64 thousand links. But in other cases we can help. For example this link is giving 404 error: http://www.openoffice.org/licenses/lgpl_license.html I think we removed that intentionally, since that is no longer our license. However, that link was used by many other websites, including university course materials looking at open source licenses, etc.: http://www.cs.utsa.edu/~bylander/cs1023/chapter8links.html So in cases like this we might want to restore the page. Do our part to help prevent bit rot and entropy from destroying the web. But to put it in perspective, although we have 64 thousand 404 errors on our website, we also have nearly 16 million incoming links that do not give errors. Given our rank I'd rather assume that those 64k 404 errors don't affect our site popularity because of the 16 M links. So said, we might consider to restore pages like that one, adding the info about the license change. Roberto -Rob But we're redirecting security.openoffice.org to http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/security.html So if there are outstanding URL's that are of the form security.openoffice.org/foo.html then they might be broken now. see above...it's the actual placement of the bulletins within the tree that's the problem I think So, to those of you using this tool, I may mark many of these as fixed. Of course they are not -- and they may show up again. Some of them only show up in BZ issues!! (Google is amazingly thorough). I don't know how long it will take for them to show up again. The problem is some of these are very very very old references, and not likely we can do anything about at this point in time. If you're not using this tool, you probably don't care about this. If you are using it, and have another opinion before I start chunking away at hiding these, please weigh in. The way I understand it the links at the top of the list are the ones Google considers the most important. I think this is based on the number of links to that page. Maybe they factor in other things as well. So I'd recommend looking more at the top 100 or so broken links, make this a manageable task.
Re: [RELEASE][3.4.1]: preparation of download links etc.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 07/27/2012 02:25 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, do we need special preparation for the upcoming release of aOO 3.4.1? I think we should start preparations for: 1) Updating the /download site to point to 3.4.1 release files Of course you mean *prepare* the update, aren't you? ;-) I'll takeover this part and try to deliver first things on Sunday. Ok, let us know when you want to light it up, since we do need to prime the mirrors before. Thanks, Roberto I don't know if I can bring in some more automatism for the releade (DL links in the table, with checksums, etc.) but maybe then short after. 2) Keep the legacy download page as it is now, pointing to the previous major release, which is still OOo 3.3.0 Yes. IMHO we should change this earliest with 3.5 when we can offer some new features. But latestly 4.0 is the time to delete the legacy website stuff and point the users to the archive when there is still need for the last OOo release. Marcus 3) Copy the AOO 3.4.0 files into archives.apache.org 4) Draft the announcement blog post 5) Submit SHA256 hashes to Symantec for whitelisting. (Any other AV vendors have a similar process?) 6) Update the podling website to point to the new source distribution Of course, these are preparations only at this point. We'll need to wait for an approved ballot to actually complete 3 and 5, and will need to wait for the mirrors and SourceForge to update with the released files before we pull the trigger on the other items. I'm already working on #4. I did #5 before and can do it again, unless anyone else wants to see how this is done. -Rob I assume that we don't have the time to rework the directory structure for this release. I would keep it for now in the same structure as for 3.4 but would like to work a simply structure for 3.5 in time. Juergen -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Branding on extensions site
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 2:43 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Sat, 2012-07-14 at 14:18 +0200, Roberto Galoppini wrote: The only reason is that when we re-engineered the website the new logo wasn't available yet. We are going to enhance both Extensions and Templates websites within July (spam management, stats) and we'll fix that too. Howdy all, A couple of questions - these aren't time critical at all IMO so no need to rush a reply, BTW. The drupal mods for the site, are they available to the public yet? I noticed Alexandro asked the other day, to no answer. Sorry to have missed that one, I'm actually on holiday with nearly no internet connection. All I know is that we got the source via Apache Infra, and from Oracle it came with no license. All the changes we made are available to Apache Infra, about licensing and publicity I don't know. A slightly different question - and I know I shouldn't really put two in one email..but here goes There was talk early on about working on a syndication scheme for extension/template repositories - how can we not lose that as a project goal? As reported we're now working to finalize some changes required by the community as well as fixing some issues, anyone is welcome to help to enhance the platform, maybe the syndication scheme could be an interesting addendum. Roberto Thanks, //drew Sent from my iPhone On 14/lug/2012, at 12:30, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Is there a reason the extensions site is using the old oo.o logo rather than the AOO one? Ross -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Branding on extensions site
The only reason is that when we re-engineered the website the new logo wasn't available yet. We are going to enhance both Extensions and Templates websites within July (spam management, stats) and we'll fix that too. Sent from my iPhone On 14/lug/2012, at 12:30, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: Is there a reason the extensions site is using the old oo.o logo rather than the AOO one? Ross -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal to activate the update service for OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 27.06.2012 11:30, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, I am sorry - again some stuff regarding our update service. As it has been pointed out in [1] there are some more OOo versions out there for which we can activate the update service. Thus, I am proposing to activate the update service for installed OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1 instances for which we have an AOO 3.4 installation package. These would be OOo 3.2/3.2.1 versions of the following languages on Windows, MacOS X, Linux 32bit and Linux 64bit: - English (US) - Arabic - Chinese (simplified) - Chinese (traditional) - Czech - Dutch - French - Galician - German - Hungarian - Italian - Japanese - Portuguese (Brazilian) - Russian - Spanish If nobody objects, I will work on the following tasks to make this happen: (A) get in contact with Apache infrastructure in order to get the following Update URLs of OOo 3.2.1 and OOo 3.2 redirected: -- http://update35.services.**openoffice.org/** ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://update35.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update -- http://update34.services.**openoffice.org/** ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://update34.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update These are the Update URL of OOo 3.2.1 resp. OOo 3.2 (B) creation of corresponding XML documents at the following URLs: -- http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update35/** ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/projects/update35/ProductUpdateService/check.Update -- http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update34/** ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/projects/update34/ProductUpdateService/check.Update The content of these XML documents will be more or less the same as for our OOo 3.3 update service, found at [2], but will contain download URLs with corresponding URL parameters in order to identify the OOo version which is using the update function. [1] http://markmail.org/message/**kepaycvdsaibijn6http://markmail.org/message/kepaycvdsaibijn6 [2] http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update36/** ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.Update No objections so far. Thus, I will go ahead. Is it live by now? Best regards, Oliver. P.S.: Remark, for me it looks like that the user experience of upgrading from an installed OOo 3.2/OOo 3.2.1 to AOO 3.4 does not differ from the user experience when upgrading from OOo 3.3 to AOO 3.4. Some drawbacks were reported, but it does not look like to me that upgrading from OOo 3.2/OOo 3.2.1 has different ones. Agree, that's why I reported no issue with upgrading from OOo 3.2 to AOO 3.4. Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal to activate the update service for OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:06 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 06.07.2012 13:27, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 27.06.2012 11:30, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, I am sorry - again some stuff regarding our update service. As it has been pointed out in [1] there are some more OOo versions out there for which we can activate the update service. Thus, I am proposing to activate the update service for installed OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1 instances for which we have an AOO 3.4 installation package. These would be OOo 3.2/3.2.1 versions of the following languages on Windows, MacOS X, Linux 32bit and Linux 64bit: - English (US) - Arabic - Chinese (simplified) - Chinese (traditional) - Czech - Dutch - French - Galician - German - Hungarian - Italian - Japanese - Portuguese (Brazilian) - Russian - Spanish If nobody objects, I will work on the following tasks to make this happen: (A) get in contact with Apache infrastructure in order to get the following Update URLs of OOo 3.2.1 and OOo 3.2 redirected: -- http://update35.services.**ope**noffice.org/**http://openoffice.org/** ProductUpdateService/check.Updatehttp://update35.** services.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://update35.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update -- http://update34.services.**ope**noffice.org/**http://openoffice.org/** ProductUpdateService/check.Updatehttp://update34.** services.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://update34.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update These are the Update URL of OOo 3.2.1 resp. OOo 3.2 (B) creation of corresponding XML documents at the following URLs: -- http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update35/**http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update35/** ProductUpdateService/check.Updatehttp://www.openoffice.** org/projects/update35/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/projects/update35/ProductUpdateService/check.Update -- http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update34/**http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update34/** ProductUpdateService/check.Updatehttp://www.openoffice.** org/projects/update34/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/projects/update34/ProductUpdateService/check.Update The content of these XML documents will be more or less the same as for our OOo 3.3 update service, found at [2], but will contain download URLs with corresponding URL parameters in order to identify the OOo version which is using the update function. [1] http://markmail.org/message/kepaycvdsaibijn6http://markmail.org/message/**kepaycvdsaibijn6 http://**markmail.org/message/**kepaycvdsaibijn6http://markmail.org/message/kepaycvdsaibijn6 [2] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/**http://www.openoffice.org/**projects/update36/** ProductUpdateService/check.Updatehttp://www.openoffice.** org/projects/update36/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Updatehttp://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.Update No objections so far. Thus, I will go ahead. Is it live by now? Not yet. I am in contact with ASF infra - JIRA-5011 [1] and IRC chat - to get the redirects working. After the redirects have been established I will announce here, when I will finish step (B). Do you have any date and time in mind? We're ready to manage that traffic as well, so whenever you want. Best, Roberto [1] https://issues.apache.org/**jira/browse/INFRA-5011https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5011 Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Touching base with the mirrorbrain operators
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 11:40 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, It is wonderful to see the millions of downloads for the current 3.4 release, utilizing the sf.net resources. Also in this case one picture worths 1000 words, Rob keeps doing a fantastic job using SourceForge's APIs to show the AOO 3.4 total so far http://people.apache.org/~robweir/aoo-downloads.html By the way we're about to provide an easier way to detect when a day is over, so that is clear if queries for a given day are complete or partial. It's also encouraging to see the half million downloads per month still going out from the mirrorbrain servers - this 500,000 p/mos figure is comprised of older releases, many of which include language packs not yet available for 3.4 or the upcoming 3.4.1 - so this is a valuable resource to the project still, IMO. It's good to see we find a way to use both mirror networks. Beyond the big numbers at stake, I think it we were right by setting a clear rule about who serves which downloads (AOO 3.4, legacy). Doing so actually we eliminated all potential problems with which mirror network is having a problem kinds of debugging. Talking about which, let me state that so far we didn't experience any issue, people reported an average time of downloading of about 2 mins that's pretty good. Back in March I sent an email to 102 contact references for that mirror network, it would be a good idea IMO to drop another note to these folks, let them know we recognize the traffic they are still carrying, say thanks and keep in touch as the projects looks to, and plans for the next release - 3.4.1 and beyond. Sound like a good idea? Of course! Roberto Thanks //drew -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [QA] request to check update of installed OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1 to AOO 3.4
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Ji Yan yanji...@gmail.com wrote: I'll take care of updat test, and let you know result asap. I made the test on an Intel-based Mac, and it works just fine (manual installation of AOO 3.4 on top of OOo 3.2). Roberto 在 2012-6-28 下午5:35，Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com写道： Hi, as I have proposed to activate the update service for installed OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1 instances I would like to request that we check, if an update of OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1 to AOO 3.4 works. Thus, I am asking here for volunteers to perform such an update in their environments and to give feedback. Thanks a lot in advance. Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal to activate the update service for OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1
On 27/giu/2012, at 11:30, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I am sorry - again some stuff regarding our update service. As it has been pointed out in [1] there are some more OOo versions out there for which we can activate the update service. Thus, I am proposing to activate the update service for installed OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1 instances for which we have an AOO 3.4 installation package. These would be OOo 3.2/3.2.1 versions of the following languages on Windows, MacOS X, Linux 32bit and Linux 64bit: - English (US) - Arabic - Chinese (simplified) - Chinese (traditional) - Czech - Dutch - French - Galician - German - Hungarian - Italian - Japanese - Portuguese (Brazilian) - Russian - Spanish If nobody objects, I will work on the following tasks to make this happen: (A) get in contact with Apache infrastructure in order to get the following Update URLs of OOo 3.2.1 and OOo 3.2 redirected: -- http://update35.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update -- http://update34.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update These are the Update URL of OOo 3.2.1 resp. OOo 3.2 (B) creation of corresponding XML documents at the following URLs: -- http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update35/ProductUpdateService/check.Update -- http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update34/ProductUpdateService/check.Update The content of these XML documents will be more or less the same as for our OOo 3.3 update service, found at [2], but will contain download URLs with corresponding URL parameters in order to identify the OOo version which is using the update function. [1] http://markmail.org/message/kepaycvdsaibijn6 [2] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.Update Hi Oliver, We are ready to serve those downloads as well, please let me know when it's live. Thanks, Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [OT] Re: Help please - working on an AOO34 CD
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:24 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 10:11 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-06-26 at 09:47 +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 6/25/12 9:20 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 3:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:34 AM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, Have been working on an AOO 3.4 CD image - suitable for boosters to use as swag, part of individual supports toolbox, etc. The work is down to the final stages now and I could use some help in the way of input with some of the details. THIS IS NOT FINISHED - but in wanted folks to see exactly what I have this morning so made use of the sf.net resources to do so. Two files added here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lorepo/files/AOO34/ cd-aoo34-bin.iso and cd-aoo-34-src.iso (again these are NOT intended for distribution yet..) I just downloaded and burned the BIN image. Overall this is totally awesome, a truly righteous and outstanding accomplishment. Sorry, just to be clear. I was praising Drew's work producing the image, not my CD burning. you can really burn CD's, wow ;-) Juergen PS: I haven't checked the ISO image but does it have an autorun.inf file? No it doesn't have an autorun file. By the way - are both of you on the OASIS ODF..hmmm, team, project, not sure what to call that - I really want to yell at someone from OASIS about their stupidity on Plug-fests...so which of you is it? We have several OASIS members in the AOO project: me, Oliver, Don, Louis, Dennis, and anyone else I missed ;-). But the Plugfests are not done by OASIS. They are organized by another group that works informally, albeit with a membership that overlaps. What's the issue? What is this I hear that TDF is being denied the use of the name, ODF Plugfest. The plan was to host such an event at our annual conference but apparently folks (hell IBM) is blocking it...so what's up with that - what happened to openness as in Open standard, non encumbered by and all that BS? We have a conf call planned for this Thursday, I don't think we have any blocker. The only issue I've been reading about is all about the fact that part of the discussion about the organization has not been held on the usual channels. As a result some of us were not aware of the fact the next ODF-Plugfest was going to be held concurrently with LO event, so when the news come out it was a kind of surprise. So said, we're on track to start working on making it happen. Roberto -Rob autorun.inf: [autorun] open=myloader.exe icon= myicon.ico The disadvantage is that it can only open *.exe and no batch or html files directly. -Rob But a few quick observations: 1) Is the audience for this end-users? Conference organizers? As it is now it is not clear where to start. I insert CD and just get the directory listing. This is on Windows 7. Maybe other OS's know to automatically load index.html from a CD? Or is there something else that would trigger this? 2) On index.html, you have under quick install, links with the text, I know how. Maybe just me, but I was looking for a parallel one saying I don't know how 3) Contact.html. Typos on 2nd header Questions regardig the Apache OpenOfice project 4) You are including all the language installs, but only art work in English. It it in your longer term plans to get translations added? -Rob What's in them currently? cd-aoo34-bin.iso AOO 3.4 Binaries - Windows English(us) full install package - All Windows language packs released with 3.4 - Windows SDK Documents, all as PDF - Installation Guide - Getting Started Guide - Administration Guide - Basic Programmers Guide - Developers Guide HTML files - Index [home] (started as webstie page - done) - Files (started from website page - done) - Instructions (not close to done) - Conatct [support] (could be done maybe) - Release Notes [notes] (copy of webstie page, added one graphic - done) - License (not done) - java (copy of website page - done) - sys_reqs_aoo34 (copy of webstie page) - ooo.css and style.css from webstie, 1 changes in each file Print ready artwork for packaging - Thin / Tall DVD case cover - Cut/Fold CD envelope template - Pre-fab sleeve cover - disk label cd-aoo-34-src.iso All the files in the cd-aoo-34-bin.iso and the source files tar ball, along with changes to a couple of html files. --- So - there are things I see to do on each piece here still. I do not expect to add any other artifacts at this point. For today I want to finish up an the
Re: Tutorial: How to Use the Apache CMS Web Interface
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:58 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 6/15/12 3:09 PM, Rob Weir wrote: My first attempt making a video with Camtasia. Hopefully this will be useful to someone starting to use the CMS for the first time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcDZN3Lu6HA well done, I love short video tutorials ;-) with a good fresh coffee at hand. Maybe you can share some more experience how you create it, what steps are necessary to trim the video etc. This was done with a 30-day trial version of Camtasia Studio: http://www.techsmith.com/camtasia.html It works like a screen capture tool: You define what area of the screen you want to record, what audio device to capture, etc. After recording it has a simple editor to insert titles, transitions, remove unnecessary pauses, etc. Finally, it takes the project, encodes it as WMV and automatically uploads it to YouTube. There is a lot more depth to the Camtasia features -- I only scratched the surface -- but you can get a lot done with just the basic features. An open source alternative could be CamStudio, it's probably not so feature-rich, though. http://camstudio.org/ Roberto Other than that, the idea is the same as any tutorial, whether given live, printed, video, podcast, whatever. Have a clear idea of what you want the user to take away, and break it down into clear steps. I can think of many more such short video tutorials describing features in the office. For example many users don't know the concept of styles. So how about a short video explaining style and to create and use one. Or edit/change an existing one... Another idea would be a set of short videos examining each of the new features in AOO 3.4. Many many short videos of the same style, means common intro page pointing to our project + content video + common finish with further info regarding the project or something like that. Maybe also a common place on Youtube for these. Right now the videos are just in my personal account. But it would be better, think, if we had an AOO-branded account where such things could live. This would make it easier for the users to find. Or maybe the way to do this is via common tagging? It's perfect promotion for our project in several ways. We provide useful tutorials that help our users, we show how easy it can be to join the project and do something useful, we do some good marketing for our project in general... Juergen -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Approaching 5M downloads
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: We're at 4,922,774. So we should hit 5M late tonight or early tomorrow morning (UTC). I'll work on a blog post highlighting that milestone and give a general update on what we are working on. After that I plan to stop reporting on each 1M increment. They come too quickly. Loved this. :) Maybe an update every 5M in the future? It sounds reasonable to me. Roberto -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: 4M later today
On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/13/2012 12:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: Current download count is 3968717. We should hit 4M later today. The work Oliver has done to enable the update notifications for OOo 3.3.0 users has accelerated the download rate significantly. Update: We're at 4001934 good for us and I hope the updates are going well. In general, yes. For example, yesterday's total download count was 170082. Compare that to the 110K we get on most week days. The one exception is France. I'm not seeing any upgrade downloads there. It don't see any errors in the XML feed, but I wonder if something could be off there? I've just tried to download it from the French link(*), and it seems to work just fine. What else should we double check? Roberto (*) http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger/ -Rob -Rob And happy anniversary, everyone. It was one year ago today that members of the OpenOffice.org community, along with new friends from all over the globe moved to Apache. -Rob -- MzK There's no crying in baseball! -- Jimmy Dugan (Tom Hanks), A League of Their Own -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service - next steps
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 08.06.2012 11:06, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: [snip] Dutch - http://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html French - http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger/ German - http://www.openoffice.org/download Question for discussion: Should we use the English (US) download page as a fallback for the languages for which we have no localized download page? orw's opinion: I am not in favor of such a fallback, but I currently see no other solution. I think we still want to gradually enable the upgrade notifications over the next week. Maybe we start with those that have good NL download pages. But at the end, we really need to enable everyone to upgrade. AOO 3.4 has important security patches. So at the end, if there is no good NL page we would direct them to the default English page. And if we get an improved NL page in the future, we can add support for that, I just checked the traffic, I think we could add other countries by now, at least from an infrastructure perspective. For example we could add US, that is the fourth country by daily visits. Ok, I will add en-US tomorrow morning 10:00 (GMT+2). I was a little bit late - I was caught by some hacking to solve issues. OOo 3.3 Update Service is now active for: - Italian since Tuesday 10:00 (GMT+2) - Spanish and Japanese since Thurday 10:00 (GMT+2) - English (US) since Friday 11:00 (GMT+2) We are in a good shape with our OOo 3.3 update service. Thus, I will add tomorrow morning 09:30 (GMT+2) - Chinese (simplified) with download page http://www.openoffice.org/download - Chinese (traditional) with http://www.openoffice.org/download - Dutch with http://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html - French with http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger/ - German with http://www.openoffice.org/download I will do so, if nobody raises any objections. No problem on SourceForge side, we had no issue to handle the extra-traffic so far, and we are in good shape to manage those too. Roberto I am proposing to add the remaining languages on Thursday morning 09:30 (GMT+2). These are: - Arabic - Czech - Galician - Hungarian - Portuguese (Brazilian) If there are any localized download pages for the above languages, please let me know - I can then update the corresponding information. Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Installation Experience and Feedback
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 6/8/12 4:06 AM, zhangjf wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 6/7/12 4:57 AM, Gavin McDonald wrote: Hi All, Here is my installation experience, it seems to vary somewhat from some others experiences. Environment: Windows 7 64 Bit, experience was same of both Desktop and Laptop. 1. Download OpenOffice 3.4 from openoffice.org mirror. -- Time: 2 minutes. 2. Unpack . -- Time: 1 minute. 3. Install. -- Time: 2 minutes. 4. Erm, nothing e4lse, we are done! It really was as painless and quick as that. Well Done Guys n Gals! I do have a few observations that someone might think Bugzilla worthy (all minor): a. UAC - Publisher is 'Unknown' . The User Account Control really should have 'Apache Software Foundation' as the Publisher. (Note that in the Add/Remove programs section shows 'OpenOffice.org' as the Publisher. agree, it should already fine for the Linux packages. We have to find the correct place but it shouldn't be a problem when when we know for what we are looking ;-) Please submit an issue for that I remember the unknown publisher message is caused by lacking signature in the msi install package, it should get signed with an official certification by the signtool or signcode utility from Windows SDK. If you have the certification, this step can be done after the msi packages are generated separately and if possible, it can be integrated as one step in the build procedure. good to know that signing solve it. One more reason why we need a certificate. Agree 100%. Roberto Juergen b. The program 'Unpacks' to a folder on the 'Desktop' - Why? Really we should be choosing the 'Downloads' folder. c. The final installation folder is 'OpenOffice.org 3' -- I think this should change to 'openoffice3' at the moment we decided to keep the former name to emphasize that we are OpenOffice. In the future we can think about OpenOfifce 4. The CamelCase with space notation is by design because that is how it is done on windows. d. During Installation the 'FileType' choices has 'Microsoft Word Documents' ticked by default, as per other email threads, perhaps this should be un-ticked by default but still show the screen during install so it can be ticked easily. without deeper analysis of a the appropriate default that satisfies most of our users I wouldn't change it e. Once installed, clicking 'Start' shows 'OpenOffice.org Base' program on the start menu, perhaps we can try for the main 'OpenOffice.org' jump menu first or 'Writer' ?? I have no preference here, maybe it's sorted automatically I don't know Thanks for your feedback Juergen -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service first phase
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 06.06.2012 16:26, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: it looks like that our first phase of the OOo 3.3 update service had a good start. As far as I can see the downloads on SourceForge for the Italian AOO 3.4 release got a little boost - nearly 25k on Tuesday compared to nearly 13k on Monday. Yea, actually traffic on Mondays is generally lighter, though. For sure yesterday over 13k opened a browser from within OpenOffice.org 3.3. Later this week I'll share some projections for the rest of the world. Roberto, were there any problems in the handling of the additional download traffic? No problem at all. I see 129,193 downoads (just install, all languages) yesterday, which makes it our largest single day. I know Oliver's original plan was to run with just the Italian update for the week and then turn on all of the downloads. I wonder if it would make sense to adjust that plan slightly, so we ramp up the load gradually over the week? That might make it easier to adjust things as we go versus doing it all at once next week. For example, we could add another European country today, along with one Asian one. Because of timezone differences, the combined load of say Italy plus Spain plus Japan would not be as large. Yea, we might do that, I'd just like to have one full day serving auto-updates from a given country, so that we can make educated guess for the global traffic. Then we check again tomorrow, if everything is still working well, we can add another country or two. And so on. A gradual ramp up. Would that work for SourceForge? That's totally fine with us, as I said I'd like just to start doing this by tomorrow. Would it work for you too? I think it is a good idea to refine the initial plan as things seems to go quite well. Thus, I am proposing to activate the OOo 3.3 update service for Spanish and Japanese tomorrow 10:00 (GMT+2). The Spanish download page [1] seems to be in a good shape. The Japanese download page [2] looks also good. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/ [2] http://www.openoffice.org/ja/download/ Any objections to activate the OOo 3.3 update service for es and ja? Oliver, Rob and everyone else, I double checked internally, you might activate OOo 3.3 updated for ES and JA even now if you want. I will extend the first phase at 10:00 (GMT+2) by activating the OOo 3.3 update service for es and ja. Good. It would be great if someone from those countries could test it and report here. By the way, for the second day in a row Italy was the top country for downloads, in less than 2 days have been served about 25k autoupdate downloads. Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service - next steps
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 06.06.2012 22:50, Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 06/06/2012 03:39 PM, schrieb Oliver-Rainer Wittmann: Hi, from what we have experienced so far from the first phase of the OOo 3.3 update service it makes sense to me to have the full OOo 3.3 update service working at the end of this week. As we would like to direct our users to a localized download page, if possible, I want to put our attention on the planned download pages. Rob already started a similar thread - namely Audit of NL home pages [1], but I am not sure, if the one or the other already took action. Please provide feedback regarding to which page the OOo 3.3 update functionality should direct the user for these languages. Arabic - ? Chinese (simplified) - ? Chinese (traditional) - ? Czech - ? Dutch - http://www.openoffice.org/nl/downloaden.html English (US) - http://www.openoffice.org/download French - http://www.openoffice.org/fr/Telecharger/ Galician - ? German - ? German - http://www.openoffice.org/download On the mainpage http://www.openoffice.org/de/; there is only one big link that points to the central download webpage. However, there are still some errors, so I'll update the site a bit to make it more Apache-like. Thx for the feedback. Thus, for German we will direct the user to English (US) download page. Question for discussion: Should we use the English (US) download page as a fallback for the languages for which we have no localized download page? orw's opinion: I am not in favor of such a fallback, but I currently see no other solution. I think we still want to gradually enable the upgrade notifications over the next week. Maybe we start with those that have good NL download pages. But at the end, we really need to enable everyone to upgrade. AOO 3.4 has important security patches. So at the end, if there is no good NL page we would direct them to the default English page. And if we get an improved NL page in the future, we can add support for that, I just checked the traffic, I think we could add other countries by now, at least from an infrastructure perspective. For example we could add US, that is the fourth country by daily visits. Roberto Another question for discussion: Does it make sense to adapt the URL parameter utm_source=OOo3_3 to utm_source=OOo3_3_[language code] in order to distinguish the languages on this level? Not really necessary. Google already tracks the country and locale, so we can already see the distribution that way. It also tracks the platform. Best regards, Oliver. Hungarian - ? Italian - http://openoffice.org/it/download Japanese - http://www.openoffice.org/ja/download/ Portuguese (Brazilian) - ? Russian - http://www.openoffice.org/ru/about-downloads.html Spanish - http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/ [1] http://ooo-dev.markmail.org/thread/7ydafrdrqxpctsy3 Thanks in advance for your help, Oliver. Marcus -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service first phase
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, it looks like that our first phase of the OOo 3.3 update service had a good start. As far as I can see the downloads on SourceForge for the Italian AOO 3.4 release got a little boost - nearly 25k on Tuesday compared to nearly 13k on Monday. Yea, actually traffic on Mondays is generally lighter, though. For sure yesterday over 13k opened a browser from within OpenOffice.org 3.3. Later this week I'll share some projections for the rest of the world. Roberto, were there any problems in the handling of the additional download traffic? No problem at all. Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service first phase
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, it looks like that our first phase of the OOo 3.3 update service had a good start. As far as I can see the downloads on SourceForge for the Italian AOO 3.4 release got a little boost - nearly 25k on Tuesday compared to nearly 13k on Monday. Yea, actually traffic on Mondays is generally lighter, though. For sure yesterday over 13k opened a browser from within OpenOffice.org 3.3. Later this week I'll share some projections for the rest of the world. Roberto, were there any problems in the handling of the additional download traffic? No problem at all. I see 129,193 downoads (just install, all languages) yesterday, which makes it our largest single day. I know Oliver's original plan was to run with just the Italian update for the week and then turn on all of the downloads. I wonder if it would make sense to adjust that plan slightly, so we ramp up the load gradually over the week? That might make it easier to adjust things as we go versus doing it all at once next week. For example, we could add another European country today, along with one Asian one. Because of timezone differences, the combined load of say Italy plus Spain plus Japan would not be as large. Yea, we might do that, I'd just like to have one full day serving auto-updates from a given country, so that we can make educated guess for the global traffic. Then we check again tomorrow, if everything is still working well, we can add another country or two. And so on. A gradual ramp up. Would that work for SourceForge? That's totally fine with us, as I said I'd like just to start doing this by tomorrow. Would it work for you too? Roberto -Rob Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service first phase
On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 06.06.2012 14:27, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 6:33 AM, Roberto Galoppinirgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, it looks like that our first phase of the OOo 3.3 update service had a good start. As far as I can see the downloads on SourceForge for the Italian AOO 3.4 release got a little boost - nearly 25k on Tuesday compared to nearly 13k on Monday. Yea, actually traffic on Mondays is generally lighter, though. For sure yesterday over 13k opened a browser from within OpenOffice.org 3.3. Later this week I'll share some projections for the rest of the world. Roberto, were there any problems in the handling of the additional download traffic? No problem at all. I see 129,193 downoads (just install, all languages) yesterday, which makes it our largest single day. I know Oliver's original plan was to run with just the Italian update for the week and then turn on all of the downloads. I wonder if it would make sense to adjust that plan slightly, so we ramp up the load gradually over the week? That might make it easier to adjust things as we go versus doing it all at once next week. For example, we could add another European country today, along with one Asian one. Because of timezone differences, the combined load of say Italy plus Spain plus Japan would not be as large. Yea, we might do that, I'd just like to have one full day serving auto-updates from a given country, so that we can make educated guess for the global traffic. Then we check again tomorrow, if everything is still working well, we can add another country or two. And so on. A gradual ramp up. Would that work for SourceForge? That's totally fine with us, as I said I'd like just to start doing this by tomorrow. Would it work for you too? I think it is a good idea to refine the initial plan as things seems to go quite well. Thus, I am proposing to activate the OOo 3.3 update service for Spanish and Japanese tomorrow 10:00 (GMT+2). The Spanish download page [1] seems to be in a good shape. The Japanese download page [2] looks also good. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/ [2] http://www.openoffice.org/ja/download/ Any objections to activate the OOo 3.3 update service for es and ja? Oliver, Rob and everyone else, I double checked internally, you might activate OOo 3.3 updated for ES and JA even now if you want. Roberto Best regards, Oliver -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP][UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service first phase will be active today at 10:00 (GMT+2)
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, just for your interest. I will activate the OOo 3.3 update service first phase today at 10:00 (GMT+2). In the first phase Italian OOo 3.3 instances on Windows, MacOS X, Linux 32bit and Linux 64bit will be notified through the update functionality that AOO 3.4 is available. The users will be directed to the Italian download page [1]. I started testing OpenOffice.org 3.2, and the application told me that there was an update available. The browser opened the following page: http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index_it.html?cid=920897 that actually doesn't work. So I did disinstall OOo 3.2 and the browser pointed to the following page: http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/deinstall that actually doesn't work. After installing OOo 3.3 the application didn't check automatically, not even after I set the daily check for updates Then I did check it and I've been redirected to http://www.openoffice.org/it/download/?utm_source=OOo3_3utm_medium=Clientutm_campaign=Upgrade as expected, and I eventually downloaded the AOO 3.4 file. Guess we need to double check what's going on with OOo 3.2, I didn't expect it to say there are updates, though. Roberto We want to run the first phase until Friday, 2012-06-08, in order to check, if the generated download traffic can be handled. Afterwards, it is planned to activate the OOo 3.3 update service for all platform and language combinations for which we have an AOO 3.4 installation package available. [1] http://www.openoffice.org/it/download/ Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: unexpected experience with OOo 3.2 update service [was: Re: [HEADS UP][UPDATE SERVICE] OOo 3.3 update service first phase will be active today at 10:00 (GMT+2)]
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 05.06.2012 11:40, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, just for your interest. I will activate the OOo 3.3 update service first phase today at 10:00 (GMT+2). In the first phase Italian OOo 3.3 instances on Windows, MacOS X, Linux 32bit and Linux 64bit will be notified through the update functionality that AOO 3.4 is available. The users will be directed to the Italian download page [1]. I started testing OpenOffice.org 3.2, and the application told me that there was an update available. The browser opened the following page: http://update.services.openoffice.org/ooo/index_it.html?cid=920897 that actually doesn't work. So I did disinstall OOo 3.2 and the browser pointed to the following page: http://surveys.services.openoffice.org/deinstall that actually doesn't work. After installing OOo 3.3 the application didn't check automatically, not even after I set the daily check for updates Then I did check it and I've been redirected to http://www.openoffice.org/it/download/?utm_source=OOo3_3utm_medium=Clientutm_campaign=Upgrade as expected, and I eventually downloaded the AOO 3.4 file. Guess we need to double check what's going on with OOo 3.2, I didn't expect it to say there are updates, though. What you have experienced with your OOo 3.2 installation is really unexpected. I have a clean OOo 3.2 installation on my Windows 7 machine. Its UpdateURL is http://update34.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update which currently can not be resolved to any existing HTTP resource. Thus, my OOo 3.2 installation reports that the update check fails. Thus, I have no glue, why your OOo 3.2 installation could report an available update. I do not assume that you have a backup of your OOo 3.2 installation. If you have it nevertheless, please share the version.ini resp. versionrc file, found in the program folder of this installation, with me. Olivier you're right, I don't have a backup of that installation, and actually I just erased that and moved to OOo 3.3 to test the AOO 3.4 auto-update. Maybe someone else can test it and report here? Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Missing Extensions: PDFImport for Mac
Hi all, Louis kindly provided me with an old version, I was just wondering if Andrew or someone else from Oracle could actually help us with that, especially considering that the Oracle PDF Import extension is still a hit. Thanks, Roberto On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: Hi all, http://ooopackages.good-day.net doesn't serve that download anymore, it's dead. Maho can you help me? Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 02.06.2012 18:21, Kay Schenk wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: [snip] One other question: does this take care of OOo 3.2 upgrades as well? Not yet planned nor tested, but I assume that the XML document only needs minor adjustments. OOo 3.2 has the UpdateURL http://update34.services.**openoffice.org/.http://update34.services.openoffice.org/. .. OOo 3.2.1 has the Update URL http://update35.services.**openoffice.org/.http://update35.services.openoffice.org/. .. But once the update service is working for OOo 3.3, we can easily do the same for OOo 3.2 and OOo 3.2.1 (and even former versions). Oliver, don't go any further back than maybe 3.1. The 3.0 update URL is the one that uses POST instead of GET, and creates mayhem! This is update30 DO NOT redirect this one. I don't know about some of the others. We should probably be fie with update34, update 35. My personal opinion is that an update service for OOo 3.3, OOo 3.2.1 and OOo 3.2 is enough to reach our user base. May be also for OOo 3.1.1 and OOo 3.1, if we see a high number of users on OOo 3.2.1 and OOo 3.2. Everything else seems great! Thanks. Let see what happens, when we start tomorrow with the Italian OOo 3.3 update service. Tomorrow at which time? Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [EXT]Discontinued Base extensions
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.hu wrote: 2012.05.29. 15:23 keltezéssel, Roberto Galoppini írta: On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Reizinger Zoltánzreizin...@hdsnet.hu wrote: The code the two extensions no more developed by us, due to license incompatibilities. The Oracle report builder, and the MySQL connector. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/reportdesign http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector To inform AOO 3.4 users about this situation, I added a comment to report builder, and want to add to MySQL, but the commenting not possible. How can I put some words to this extensions page? My understanding is that for some extensions comments have been disabled for spam. Should we enable comments for this extensions for good or just temporarily? By the wat, what about the other extensions with disabled comments? About how to manage this issue in a pro-active way, we could write something like: On MySQL connector page: Add some words before yours: The extensions might work with Apache OpenOffice 3.4, but development stopped. The known, not fixed bugs on Mac, on Linux 64 bit versions, make it unusable on these platforms. Use ODBC or JDBC connectors to MySQL databases. Done. Roberto The source code for this extension was transferred to the Apache OpenOffice project in 2011. If you are interested in volunteering to develop this extension, please contact the Apache OpenOffice mailing list: ooo-dev at incubator.apache.org Thoughts? Zoltan Roberto Zoltan -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 01/06/2012 Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 01.06.2012 15:09, Rob Weir wrote: Also, if we follow Andrea's proposal, we don't link to the NL home page, but to the NL's download page directly. (If I understand correctly). Ok, I will update it. Both http://www.openoffice.org/it/ and the current one http://www.openoffice.org/it/download would do; the latter is much uglier since CSS were not imported correctly with the relocation to Apache. For example, Spanish upgrade URL would be: http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/index.html?utm_source=OOo3_3utm_medium=Clientutm_campaign=Upgrade I will check for the Italian download page for our first phase next week. We can see if we manage to refresh http://www.openoffice.org/it/download in a way similar to the Spanish page in the meantime (no problem if it is not yet available as a template localizable via mdtext; we can likely just grab the HTML from the Spanish site for the time being). Andrea, that page looks actually like the localized version of http://www.openoffice.org/download/ right? Both seems a very good start, I think. Thanks Roberto for offering to help with the landing pages; maybe we can discuss what to write/put in the right hand column, see the Spanish example at http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/index.html and the existing links at http://www.openoffice.org/it/download/3.4.0/download340.html What about putting the Please Contribute content we have on SourceForge download pages? Roberto Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 31.05.2012 18:46, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann [snip] Ok. Roberto, Rob and Kay are in favor to activate the update service only for a part of the possible OOo 3.3 instances in order to check, if the traffic can be handled. No objections from my side. One important remark which I had not given yet: When we had the redirect from [5] to [4] established by the ASF infrastructure team, all (yes, all) installed OOo 3.3 instances in which the check of updates is initiated will get the XML document. Whose which find an entry with their data (language, platform, architecture) will state that an update is available. All the others will state that the OOo 3.3 installation is up to date. Clear. To start this first phase the following tasks need to be finished: (1) Choose the OOo 3.3 candidates for the first phase. -- orw's proposal: italian on all four platforms agree (2) Get in contact with the ASF infrastructure team to get the redirect established at a certain day. -- orw is volunteering for this task (3) Fill the landing page [6] with content and links and activate tracking for this page. -- at least one volunteer is needed here. I can volunteer for this, do we have a draft text for that? No, there is no draft. But Rob suggested in his reply to provide links to the corresponding NL pages. Andrea second it and I am also in favor of it. It would save us some resources. agree The needed updates to the NL pages have to be done nevertheless in my opinion. Andrea are you going to do that or do you want me to do so? Roberto (4) Choose the time frame for the first phase. -- orw's proposal: 2012-07-05 until 2012-07-08 (if redirect can be established on Tuesday, 2012-07-05 and task (3) can be finished until Monday.) SourceForge's side we are ok with this tentative schedule. I meant 2012-06-05 until 2012-06-08, as it has been already recognized. Best regards, Oliver. BTW, as we have for each language own entries in the XML document we can provide translated landing pages if somebody is willing to translate the master landing page. [6] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/index.html -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 01.06.2012 15:09, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, next and refined steps - see below. Please hold me back, if the schedule is too tough. Best regards, Oliver. On 31.05.2012 10:38, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: [snip] Ok. Roberto, Rob and Kay are in favor to activate the update service only for a part of the possible OOo 3.3 instances in order to check, if the traffic can be handled. No objections from my side. One important remark which I had not given yet: When we had the redirect from [5] to [4] established by the ASF infrastructure team, all (yes, all) installed OOo 3.3 instances in which the check of updates is initiated will get the XML document. Whose which find an entry with their data (language, platform, architecture) will state that an update is available. All the others will state that the OOo 3.3 installation is up to date. To start this first phase the following tasks need to be finished: (1) Choose the OOo 3.3 candidates for the first phase. -- orw's proposal: italian on all four platforms It looks like we will go for it. Thus, I will reduce the current XML document to the italian entries. (2) Get in contact with the ASF infrastructure team to get the redirect established at a certain day. -- orw is volunteering for this task I will try to get in contact with ASF infrastructure team today. (3) Fill the landing page [6] with content and links and activate tracking for this page. -- at least one volunteer is needed here. Instead of a new landing page it looks like that we will go for the corresponding NL pages. I will update the links in the XML document accordingly. Rob: Can you provide the URL parameters for the Google Analytics tracking? I will use ?utm_source=OOo3_3utm_medium=Clientutm_campaign=Upgrade when I am updating the XML document. Please refine, if needed - Thx in advance. That is correct for upgrades from the 3.3 client. But we would change the utm_source parameter when we enable OOo 3.2. updates. Ok and yes, the parameter can be changed for the update service of other versions. Also, if we follow Andrea's proposal, we don't link to the NL home page, but to the NL's download page directly. (If I understand correctly). Ok, I will update it. Recently, I have removed the already reduced XML document, because the ASF infrastructure wants to establish the redirect before 2012-06-05. Thus, our first phase will start, when I (or somebody else) recreate it. For example, Spanish upgrade URL would be: http://www.openoffice.org/es/descargar/index.html?utm_source=OOo3_3utm_medium=Clientutm_campaign=Upgrade I will check for the Italian download page for our first phase next week. Cool, so it seems we are in good shape to start this early next week. Let me know when we need start monitoring the auto-update traffic for the Italian releases. Thanks, Roberto Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 30.05.2012 22:09, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM, Roberto Galoppinirgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 22.05.2012 15:21, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: [snip] It looks like we can go with the static solution as a short-term solution. Thus, I will do the following: - Creation of a complete XML document - Include entries for at least one languages for which we have currently no AOO 3.4 installation package. - Providing the XML document and possible variants on [3] for testing and verification. - Call for volunteers to test the XML document at [3]. - Integrate feedback, if we want to have direct download links or links to a certain existing web page for manual download. - Activate the update service -- move the final XML document to [4]. -- ask ASF infrastructure team to redirect OOo 3.3 Update URL [5] to [4]. My goal is to have the update service for OOo 3.3 running at the end of next week. Any objections? Any volunteers in advance which want to test? If yes, please provide information about your OOo 3.3 installation (operating system and language) and the test cases (direct download link, link to download page, ...) you want to test. [3] http://people.apache.org/~orw/testupdateservice/ [4] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.Update [5] http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update I have finished the creation of an XML document. It contains a feed with entries for all platform and language combinations for which we have an AOO 3.4 installation package. Each entry provides a link to web page [6]. This web page is a currently empty landing page for our OOo 3.3 users. On this page we can provide information about our new home at the Apache Software Foundation and our AOO 3.4 release. From here we can direct our OOo 3.3 to our download page [7]. Hi Oliver, could we eventually jointly work on a test phase for a fraction of the user base? Maybe we could enable the auto-updates for a given language, or so. Actually this could help us to make some realistic assumptions on the total load, and if needed the necessary adjustments to ensure the optimal performance. So, if we know from existing AOO 3.4 downloads that language/platform X is Y% of the total, then if we test the OOo 3.3 upgrade with only X, we can project what the total upgrade volume would be. That sounds reasonable. Ideally we'd like to start the test phase as soon as possible. Ok. Roberto, Rob and Kay are in favor to activate the update service only for a part of the possible OOo 3.3 instances in order to check, if the traffic can be handled. No objections from my side. One important remark which I had not given yet: When we had the redirect from [5] to [4] established by the ASF infrastructure team, all (yes, all) installed OOo 3.3 instances in which the check of updates is initiated will get the XML document. Whose which find an entry with their data (language, platform, architecture) will state that an update is available. All the others will state that the OOo 3.3 installation is up to date. Clear. To start this first phase the following tasks need to be finished: (1) Choose the OOo 3.3 candidates for the first phase. -- orw's proposal: italian on all four platforms agree (2) Get in contact with the ASF infrastructure team to get the redirect established at a certain day. -- orw is volunteering for this task (3) Fill the landing page [6] with content and links and activate tracking for this page. -- at least one volunteer is needed here. I can volunteer for this, do we have a draft text for that? (4) Choose the time frame for the first phase. -- orw's proposal: 2012-07-05 until 2012-07-08 (if redirect can be established on Tuesday, 2012-07-05 and task (3) can be finished until Monday.) SourceForge's side we are ok with this tentative schedule. Roberto BTW, as we have for each language own entries in the XML document we can provide translated landing pages if somebody is willing to translate the master landing page. [6] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/index.html Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: One approach might be to have the landing page be the NL home page, e.g., http://de.openoffice.org. These already exist, and either have the download links on that page, or have text that explains how to download. Sure, this makes a lot of sense. Testing with the Italian version is reasonable because it's approximately 10% of traffic, so a perfect sample; the only issue I see is that 80%-90% of the downloads of the Italian version come from Italy, so this wouldn't be a test for the global mirror network. It's not a stress-test, but a practical way to guess how many auto-updates we'll be serving. One other question: does this take care of OOo 3.2 upgrades as well? No, every version uses a separate hostname: update36.services.openoffice.org will only be accessed by version 3.3. Do we think there are many out there? Enough to crash the openoffice.org web server: if I recall correctly, we had big troubles when all updateXY hostnames were redirected to openoffice.org (and the reason was determined to be very old, maybe even 2.x, versions, sending POST requests in an uncontrolled way). But as Oliver wrote we can progressively extend to 3.2 and possibly to earlier releases too. The fact that the web server crashed doesn't say much, though. The test phase will put us in the position to make educated guess about the expected global traffic, and we'll get prepared to serve them all. I like the idea of moving progressively to 3.2 and beyond. Roberto Regards, Andrea. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [HEADS UP] Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 22.05.2012 15:21, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: [snip] It looks like we can go with the static solution as a short-term solution. Thus, I will do the following: - Creation of a complete XML document - Include entries for at least one languages for which we have currently no AOO 3.4 installation package. - Providing the XML document and possible variants on [3] for testing and verification. - Call for volunteers to test the XML document at [3]. - Integrate feedback, if we want to have direct download links or links to a certain existing web page for manual download. - Activate the update service -- move the final XML document to [4]. -- ask ASF infrastructure team to redirect OOo 3.3 Update URL [5] to [4]. My goal is to have the update service for OOo 3.3 running at the end of next week. Any objections? Any volunteers in advance which want to test? If yes, please provide information about your OOo 3.3 installation (operating system and language) and the test cases (direct download link, link to download page, ...) you want to test. [3] http://people.apache.org/~orw/testupdateservice/ [4] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.Update [5] http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update I have finished the creation of an XML document. It contains a feed with entries for all platform and language combinations for which we have an AOO 3.4 installation package. Each entry provides a link to web page [6]. This web page is a currently empty landing page for our OOo 3.3 users. On this page we can provide information about our new home at the Apache Software Foundation and our AOO 3.4 release. From here we can direct our OOo 3.3 to our download page [7]. Hi Oliver, could we eventually jointly work on a test phase for a fraction of the user base? Maybe we could enable the auto-updates for a given language, or so. Actually this could help us to make some realistic assumptions on the total load, and if needed the necessary adjustments to ensure the optimal performance. Ideally we'd like to start the test phase as soon as possible. Roberto The reasons why I choose to provide a link to web page instead of providing direct download links are the following: - for platform Linux the static solution can not decide which package format is requested. - Rob and myself are in favor of such a landing page. From the OOo 3.3 update functionality the user can directly open this web page in the default browser. The XML document can be found at [4]. I also put it at [3] as file check.Update. Please start your testing. To test please perform the following steps: (step 1) stop your running OOo 3.3 instance inclusive quickstarter. (step 2) find in your OOo 3.3 installation the file version.ini (Windows) respectively the file versionrc (other platforms). (step 3) in this file replace in field UpdateURL the string [5] by [4] or by http://people.apache.org/~orw/testupdateservice/check.Update;. Please keep an existing query part, e.g. ?pkgformat=rpm. (step 4) start your OOo 3.3 (step 5a) check for an update manually via Menu Help - Check for Updates (step 5b) wait for the automatic update check configured via Menu Tools - Options - OpenOffice.org - Online Update. An available update should be notified on the right of your menu bar. Thanks in advance for your test efforts. Currently, I have no variants of the XML document ready. But, I am prepared to create the one or the other corresponding to your feedback. [6] http://www.openoffice.org/projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/index.html [7] http://www.openoffice.org/download Best regards, Oliver. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Debian repository for AOO
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Claudio Filho filh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi As I said some time ago, we have focus in give support of AOO in Debian, so a friend, Marcelo Santana, from Debian Brasil, is working in a Debian repository, beyound the debianization of AOO, at SourceForge[1]. Unhappyly, he was blocked because the excessive direct access in project space, so we need a space to share this repository. May I know more about what the problem is? Maybe I can help with that. Roberto I think that can use my userspace @apache.org. Is acceptable to do this? Can I share this repo in people.apache.org? [1]http://apacheoo-deb.sourceforge.net/ Best, Claudio -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [EXT]Discontinued Base extensions
On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.hu wrote: The code the two extensions no more developed by us, due to license incompatibilities. The Oracle report builder, and the MySQL connector. http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/reportdesign http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/mysql_connector To inform AOO 3.4 users about this situation, I added a comment to report builder, and want to add to MySQL, but the commenting not possible. How can I put some words to this extensions page? My understanding is that for some extensions comments have been disabled for spam. Should we enable comments for this extensions for good or just temporarily? By the wat, what about the other extensions with disabled comments? About how to manage this issue in a pro-active way, we could write something like: The source code for this extension was transferred to the Apache OpenOffice project in 2011. If you are interested in volunteering to develop this extension, please contact the Apache OpenOffice mailing list: ooo-dev at incubator.apache.org Thoughts? Roberto Zoltan -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: AOO 2 million?
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 3:39 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 2012-05-25, at 21:09 , Rob Weir wrote: So maybe we just make a smaller announcement, via ooo-dev/ooo-users and social media for the 2 million mark, when we actually hit it. Then for the larger Symphony announcement we also note the 1 year achievement as well as give an updated download count, 2.5 or 3.0 million, depending on when that is ready for release. +1 +1 But I'd also ping the various journalists, to show them and thus the world, that AOO is not a flash in the pan, not fools' gold but the Real Thing, to which value can be added and even without that, used as valued. As a matter of fact downloads are very slightly diminishing from the announcement, and having those numbers public and certified by a trusted third party could make the difference. Roberto Louis -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: AOO 2 million?
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:12 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: +1 to a return to a focus on the community members. After Rich's interview with me another mentor pointed out that I've done more publicity around AOO than the rest of the community put together. It was pointed out that this might be making the mentoring look more important than the coding. Not a good thing. Actually your interview came after a couple of interviews to community members and templates' creators. I'm sure Rich will be more than happy to keep interviewing community members, please let us know who wants to be featured on SourceForge community blog. Roberto More people have to step up and provide material for the project to use. There are people ready to turn it into content and there are milestones to hang these things from. Ross Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity. On May 25, 2012 1:45 AM, Donald Harbison dpharbi...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, May 24, 2012, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org javascript:; wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: On 05/24/2012 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Just checking the numbers: we appear to be at 1.8 million for AOO 3.4 install downloads. It might make sense to put out another story when we hit 2 million. why not! :) OK. I'll work with Don on this. But after this I suggest we only note the downloads at 5 million intervals. Otherwise we will spend too much time writing news articles and too little time improving OpenOffice. this definitely makes sense... We might note that June 1 is the first anniversary OpenOffice with Apache. My birthday is June 2, so I'll be sure to note other milestones! :)) Maybe the new DL stats announcement, if the timeline is right, might make note of this and include a mention of how successful this new environment/arrangement has been for OpenOffice. Just a thought. IMHO, we need to return focus to the need to profile community members so we better know each other. I have a short piece on Dave Fisher ready to go in June. Let's work up more of theseplease. Louis and Nancy had volunteered previously. Anyone else want to do a 'Meet and Greet'? A good problem to have ;-) -Rob Maybe this can be combined with the piece on Symphony that Don was working on? yes...good idea! -Rob -- MzK The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated. -- Mark Twain -- MzK The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated. -- Mark Twain -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: AOO 2 million?
Sent from my iPhone On 26/mag/2012, at 18:19, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/24/2012 11:46 AM, Rob Weir wrote: Just checking the numbers: we appear to be at 1.8 million for AOO 3.4 install downloads. It might make sense to put out another story when we hit 2 million. why not! :) OK. I'll work with Don on this.But after this I suggest we only note the downloads at 5 million intervals. Otherwise we will spend too much time writing news articles and too little time improving OpenOffice. this definitely makes sense... We might note that June 1 is the first anniversary OpenOffice with Apache. Maybe the new DL stats announcement, if the timeline is right, might make note of this and include a mention of how successful this new environment/arrangement has been for OpenOffice. Just a thought. It looks like we'll hit 2 million sometime tomorrow (Saturday). If we wait until June 1st (Friday) we'll be around 2.5. But announcing on Friday is not good for getting press attention. And if we wait until the next week, June 4th, then we'll almost be at 3 million. So maybe we just make a smaller announcement, via ooo-dev/ooo-users and social media for the 2 million mark, when we actually hit it. Then for the larger Symphony announcement we also note the 1 year achievement as well as give an updated download count, 2.5 or 3.0 million, depending on when that is ready for release. +1 on this. I think this approach would certainly steer us in the future development direction and a bit away from tooting our own horn. Not that I think the latter is a bad thing, but, it would be better to prevent the flash in the pan business mentioned by Louis. As for the new climbing numbers -- well maybe some folks have been reading reviews and wondering what AOO is all about. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the latest downloads were from new customers. I see it like this: Analysts like Gartner were forecasting 2012 new PC sales of around 400 million units. Let's say 1/2 of them need some sort of office-suite on them. And suppose we have a market share of 10%, which is what optimistically OOo was at its peak. So even if everyone in the world who wanted OpenOffice already had OpenOffice, we would expect 20 million downloads/year just from the new PC sales. But to get 20 million in a year would only generate around 55K downloads/day. We're getting twice that. So that suggests we're still getting strong downloads from upgrades on existing OOo installations as well as new installs on existing PCs. It would be good if we can find a way to distinguish those two scenarios when we enable the OOo 3.3 upgrades. For example, a URL parameter, even if we don't use it in processing, to indicate that the user came to download.html via an upgrade, e.g.: http://download.openoffice.org?upgrade=3.3.0 Yea, it makes sense a lot of sense to me. Roberto A good problem to have ;-) -Rob Maybe this can be combined with the piece on Symphony that Don was working on? yes...good idea! -Rob -- MzK The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated. -- Mark Twain -- MzK The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated. -- Mark Twain -- MzK The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated. -- Mark Twain -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [Comment] Apache software is always free
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Shane Curcuru wrote: http://www.apache.org/free Any glaring errors? Anything I should add, or express more clearly? I would add, when you state that the Apache License meets the Open Source Initiative's (OSI) Open Source Definition, that it also meets the Free Software Foundation's Free Software definition and thus it qualifies as Free/Libre software. In the case of OpenOffice, which used to ship under a GNU license, this would be helpful to users who want to be sure that the license change gives them more freedom and not less freedom than before. Regards, Andrea. Great job Shane, I'd consider a couple of minor changes. Add in the first paragraph that it can be used for any purpose and you can make copies. I know that a careful reader could read it below, but many just read the very first paragraph. I'd consider also to add in the Is Apache software free to use? May I use it for any purpose? section a couple of hints for who want to repackage it, so that we can point this people to thart page. Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [Comment] Apache software is always free
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote: On 2012-05-22 3:42 AM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: Shane Curcuru wrote: http://www.apache.org/free Any glaring errors? Anything I should add, or express more clearly? I would add, when you state that the Apache License meets the Open Source Initiative's (OSI) Open Source Definition, that it also meets the Free Software Foundation's Free Software definition and thus it qualifies as Free/Libre software. In the case of OpenOffice, which used to ship under a GNU license, this would be helpful to users who want to be sure that the license change gives them more freedom and not less freedom than before. True, although this URL is meant for ASF-wide use, not just for AOO. So I'm trying to keep the information as simple (and conflict-inducing phrases free) as possible. But I think a mention that we meet both OSI and FSF guidelines is worth adding. Regards, Andrea. Great job Shane, I'd consider a couple of minor changes. Add in the first paragraph that it can be used for any purpose and you can make copies. I know that a careful reader could read it below, but many just read the very first paragraph. Good point. I'd consider also to add in the Is Apache software free to use? May I use it for any purpose? section a couple of hints for who want to repackage it, so that we can point this people to thart page. Again, this page is primarily meant to be a memorable URL to provide as a reference for the do I ever have to pay for Apache software type question. Gotcha. What information for repackagers do you mean? Wouldn't that kind of information better go on the /legal or /licenses areas anyway? Definitely. Roberto - Shane Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal a OOo 3.3 update service
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, On 16.05.2012 13:24, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, as our release AOO 3.4 is out now for more than a week I think it would make sense to reactivate a simple update service for installed OOo 3.3 versions. I have already seen a post on the users mailing list that the update functionality is not working in OOo 3.3. I assume that corresponding posts also exist in the forum. From my point of view it is time to let our OOo 3.3 users know via the update functionality that we have released AOO 3.4. The update URL for OOo 3.3 is: http://update36.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update (plus a query part ?pkgfmt=pkgformat for non-Windows platforms) As this URL resolves to nothing, the user currently gets the following response from the update functionality in OOo 3.3: Status: Checking for an update failed. Description: Error reading data from the network. Server error message: Could not read status line: An existing connection was forcibly closed by the remote host. There are two solutions: (A) static solution: Provide an XML document similar to the one which is attached when an HTTP GET request to the above given URL is made. The attached XML document contains an atom feed according to [1] Currently, it only contains entries for: - German, Windows - German, MacOS X - German, Linux, 32bit - German, Linux, 64bit - English-US, Windows I hope I got the inst:os and inst:arch content right for all the platforms. For Windows and MacOS we could directly provide download links. Thus, the update functionality can download it and install it on corresponding user demand. For Linux we can not distinguish the different needed package formats in this static solution - as far as I know. Thus, a landing page can be given here. The update functionality can open it in the user's default browser on corresponding user demand. In the attached XML document I included our AOO 3.4 release announcement page as this landing page - this is only a proposal. The final XML document needs to be extended by entries for all possible combinations. This would mean 4 entries (Windows, MacOS X, Linux 32bit, Linux 64bit) for each language which we had released for AOO 3.4. It would be also be possible to include more combinations for which we have no package. We could create a special landing page for these which state that AOO 3.4 is out and that the user might want to have a look, if one of the provided packages would fit her/his needs. For this solution we need to provide the XML document at the above given URL. (B) dynamic solution: As the HTTP GET request contains all the information needed to identify the installed version performing the HTTP GET request - see [2], with some server-side logic an XML document could be dynamically created which servers the identified version. E.g.: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? inst:description xmlns:inst=http://installation.openoffice.org/description; inst:version- Apache OpenOffice 3.4/inst:version inst:buildid9590/inst:buildid inst:osLinux/inst:os inst:archx86/inst:arch inst:update type=application/octet-stream src=http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz/download; / /inst:description which would serve a OOo 3.3, en-US, Linux 32bit, packgage format deb If there is no AOO 3.4 for the identified OOo 3.3 the script should create the following XML document: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? inst:description xmlns:inst=http://installation.openoffice.org/description; /inst:description For this solution we need some server-side based script reacting on the above given URL, which can evaluate the provided information and can create XML documents as given above. [1] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Update_Notification_Protocol [2] http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Update_Notification_Protocol#summary_information_about_request_to_.3CUpdateURL.3E I would prefer the static solution as a short-term one which could be working next week. For the dynamic solution a script is needed. I have no experience in programming such a script. Is there a volunteer who would take over this task? Any thoughts/comments/improvements/changes/...? It looks like we can go with the static solution as a short-term solution. Thus, I will do the following: - Creation of a complete XML document - Include entries for at least one languages for which we have currently no AOO 3.4 installation package. - Providing the XML document and possible variants on [3] for testing and verification. - Call for volunteers to test the XML document at [3]. - Integrate feedback, if we want to have direct download links or links to a certain existing web page for manual download. - Activate the update
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Roberto, On 18.05.2012 19:14, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi On 16.05.2012 20:47, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 16.05.2012 19:38, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 15.05.2012 20:45, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Am 15.05.12 16:11, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, From my point of view it would make sense to reactivate a simple update service for AOO 3.4. The update URL for AOO 3.4 is: http://update38.services.** openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check. **Update http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update (plus a query part ?pkgfmt=pkgformat for non-Windows platforms) As this URL resolves to nothing, the user currently gets the following response from the update functionality in AOO 3.4: Status: Checking for an update failed. Description: General Internet error has occurred. I propose provide the following XML document when a HTTP GET request to the above given URL is made: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? inst:description xmlns:inst=http://**installation.openoffice.org/**description http://installation.openoffice.org/description /inst:description Kay already made such an XML document available at: http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update This response would allow the update functionality in AOO 3.4 to return to the user that the version is up to date. Thus, to reactivate an working update service for AOO 3.4 a redirection is needed. Are proposing that we just have a static XML file and redirect the requests so it loads that static file? Yes, as a short-term and fast solution. I can see that as being a useful short-term solution. But soon we'll need some more complicated logic, right? For example, when we enable the 3.3. update check, we'll need to know that updates are available for some languages, but not others. Can we do that all with redirection to static files? Or do we need server-based logic, i.e., a cgi script? Static files would be possible, because each version has its own update service URL, but it would be not the best solution for the long-term. Thus, some server-based logic would make sense. If we're going to need a cgi script in the end, I wonder if it makes sense to start with one now? We could have a simply script that today just always points to the no update available XML for AOO 3.4. But then we make it more complicated as we go. I am currently in preparation of a proposal for an update service for OOo 3.3 installations. Here, I can/will demonstrate how a server-based logic would look like. Can somebody make this happen? I have to admit that do not have the knowledge to do it on my own. If we just redirect to a static file, I think you can just enter a JIRA request for Infra. If we go with a cgi script then we need someone to develop that script first. If nobody objects, I would go for this short-term and static approach and would ask via JIRA request for Infra, if the redirect to the already existing static file can be established. I will use issue 119361 - https://issues.apache.org/ooo/** show_bug.cgi?id=119361 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119361- to track the progress on this task. Best regards, Oliver. OK, and a very short update on this. I tried to deal with this and continually ran into issues. At the simplest, I tired to make up a generic update for maybe all platforms and languages that would just take them to a page to choose an update -- basically our download/other.html at this point. I think here some server-side script is needed. A complete generic solution which provides a static XML document is to hard figure out. However, if you exclude the platform and other particulars in a very simple XML file, nothing happens -- in other words, the URL is just ignored and you get a no updates message. This is what is in: /projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.update now. That is right. The update functionality searches in the returned XML for its operating system and its architecture and a buildid which is greater than its own. If it does not found it, it assumes that no newer version is available. Also, life is complicated by appending the pkgfmt on update strings in AOO install directory/program/versionrc (for linux...name will vary depending on OS) I will do some further checks with the URL query part
Re: AOO Downloads, false-positive and Beyond
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 4:25 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.comwrote: On 2012-05-15, at 14:49 , Roberto Galoppini wrote: Hi all, as you might now SourceForge is serving the vast majority of AOO binaries downloads, and we provide download stats by country, Operating System, Browser, and traffic source. Some of you are familiar with our stats pages, while others use our APIs. We do have spam detection enabled to identify false-positive traffic like bots, and I wish to share some insights of what happened recently on this front. We noticed that Russia was the highest download country, something that was hard to explain. The popularity was limited to /localized/ru/3.4.0/ Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_ru.exe We looked at the raw download logs for that file, and saw a lot of downloads from user-agent Download Master. Apparently it is popular in Russia, and apparently it starts hundreds of simultaneous downloads at once. Our download stats system does have some logic to prevent double counting this type of traffic, but it didn't exclude all of the duplicate downloads, so the result was still high. We've updated our download stats logic to correct this, and then reprocessed the raw logs from 2012-05-08 to present, to update the stats. Beyond bringing our ability to provide reliable stats, I wish to throw some new ideas about how we can help Apache OpenOffice to grow: a. We could provide intelligence on which projects were downloaded with Open Office within a week. b. We could cross-merch Apache OpenOffice project with other projects c. We have community management and Internet Marketing to support the community I'm in favour, as you probably can guess--I strongly promoted OOo both as a binary for users and as a source project for developers (considerable overlap)--but do have simple procedural questions, starting with we? You mean, I'd hope, those who simply want to do it? In this case 'we' was simply SourceForge. As we encountered with the OOo Marketing Project, good ideas and intentions can quickly get lost in community cacophony: more noise than signal. What we discovered was that focusing on particular drives and engaging those who would be able to carry them out, long term and without undue stress to their regular lives (this is all volunteer), helped. What I further discovered and tried as much as possible to arrange was the support coordination of small, medium and even large businesses and public sector entities. For instance, a company may have an extension that adds value to AOO and which, by its use, adds huge marketing value to their company and product. I received *a lot* of such requests from companies, and I would like to reacquaint myself with them and they with us, but it takes time. A preliminary list of organizations that were using OOo and probably are interested in AOO can be found at http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments The thing that I noted repeatedly was that many organizations, esp. public sector (and also not a small number of individuals coming from a Windows or Mac background) refused or were reluctant to download the product without professional support. The user forums worked great but in the case of public sectors and also companies, they wanted professional support, as they were used to getting (and paying for). This does not mean we must wait for the horse to be hitched to this wagon, not by any means. And I'm working on rekindling those who *were* providing that support. (Besides Sun/Oracle, there were actually quite a few. Some can still be found from http://support.openoffice.org/) We've already run a 250k impressions campaign through our media channels, and we plan to run more. Our community growth hacker and Apache member Rich Bowen has covered Apache OpenOffice both on feathercast and SourceForge blog, and also here we plan to do more videos and interviews. Roberto All in all, thanks, Roberto! I would suggest an IRC meeting with an agenda to start coordinating activities. I also see some implicit milestones. These include drawing attention to what is here, what is coming and how people can use it and contribute to it--without thinking about the Cloud, or cost. And if they must, that there are options there, too. Apparently ooo-dev is still the best place to coordinate marketing-related efforts. I'm working on how we can pass the request of help to our developers' audience, and possibly find some translators and/or devs. As well, wouldn't it be great that over summer we do enough so that when school starts again here in the Northern Hemisphere, students and faculty can actually use something that is all about working together for a better place? Yea, any specific idea in mind? Roberto Ciao Louis -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named
Re: [UPDATE SERVICE] proposal for a AOO 3.4 update service
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi On 16.05.2012 20:47, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: On 16.05.2012 19:38, Kay Schenk wrote: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: On 15.05.2012 20:45, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Am 15.05.12 16:11, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, From my point of view it would make sense to reactivate a simple update service for AOO 3.4. The update URL for AOO 3.4 is: http://update38.services.** openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check. **Update http://update38.services.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update (plus a query part ?pkgfmt=pkgformat for non-Windows platforms) As this URL resolves to nothing, the user currently gets the following response from the update functionality in AOO 3.4: Status: Checking for an update failed. Description: General Internet error has occurred. I propose provide the following XML document when a HTTP GET request to the above given URL is made: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? inst:description xmlns:inst=http://**installation.openoffice.org/**description http://installation.openoffice.org/description /inst:description Kay already made such an XML document available at: http://www.openoffice.org/**ProductUpdateService/check.**Update http://www.openoffice.org/ProductUpdateService/check.Update This response would allow the update functionality in AOO 3.4 to return to the user that the version is up to date. Thus, to reactivate an working update service for AOO 3.4 a redirection is needed. Are proposing that we just have a static XML file and redirect the requests so it loads that static file? Yes, as a short-term and fast solution. I can see that as being a useful short-term solution. But soon we'll need some more complicated logic, right? For example, when we enable the 3.3. update check, we'll need to know that updates are available for some languages, but not others. Can we do that all with redirection to static files? Or do we need server-based logic, i.e., a cgi script? Static files would be possible, because each version has its own update service URL, but it would be not the best solution for the long-term. Thus, some server-based logic would make sense. If we're going to need a cgi script in the end, I wonder if it makes sense to start with one now? We could have a simply script that today just always points to the no update available XML for AOO 3.4. But then we make it more complicated as we go. I am currently in preparation of a proposal for an update service for OOo 3.3 installations. Here, I can/will demonstrate how a server-based logic would look like. Can somebody make this happen? I have to admit that do not have the knowledge to do it on my own. If we just redirect to a static file, I think you can just enter a JIRA request for Infra. If we go with a cgi script then we need someone to develop that script first. If nobody objects, I would go for this short-term and static approach and would ask via JIRA request for Infra, if the redirect to the already existing static file can be established. I will use issue 119361 - https://issues.apache.org/ooo/** show_bug.cgi?id=119361 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119361- to track the progress on this task. Best regards, Oliver. OK, and a very short update on this. I tried to deal with this and continually ran into issues. At the simplest, I tired to make up a generic update for maybe all platforms and languages that would just take them to a page to choose an update -- basically our download/other.html at this point. I think here some server-side script is needed. A complete generic solution which provides a static XML document is to hard figure out. However, if you exclude the platform and other particulars in a very simple XML file, nothing happens -- in other words, the URL is just ignored and you get a no updates message. This is what is in: /projects/update36/ProductUpdateService/check.update now. That is right. The update functionality searches in the returned XML for its operating system and its architecture and a buildid which is greater than its own. If it does not found it, it assumes that no newer version is available. Also, life is complicated by appending the pkgfmt on update strings in AOO install directory/program/versionrc (for linux...name will vary depending on OS) I will do some further checks with the URL query part. For a static solution the URL query part
AOO Downloads, false-positive and Beyond
Hi all, as you might now SourceForge is serving the vast majority of AOO binaries downloads, and we provide download stats by country, Operating System, Browser, and traffic source. Some of you are familiar with our stats pages, while others use our APIs. We do have spam detection enabled to identify false-positive traffic like bots, and I wish to share some insights of what happened recently on this front. We noticed that Russia was the highest download country, something that was hard to explain. The popularity was limited to /localized/ru/3.4.0/ Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_ru.exe We looked at the raw download logs for that file, and saw a lot of downloads from user-agent Download Master. Apparently it is popular in Russia, and apparently it starts hundreds of simultaneous downloads at once. Our download stats system does have some logic to prevent double counting this type of traffic, but it didn't exclude all of the duplicate downloads, so the result was still high. We've updated our download stats logic to correct this, and then reprocessed the raw logs from 2012-05-08 to present, to update the stats. Beyond bringing our ability to provide reliable stats, I wish to throw some new ideas about how we can help Apache OpenOffice to grow: a. We could provide intelligence on which projects were downloaded with Open Office within a week. b. We could cross-merch Apache OpenOffice project with other projects c. We have community management and Internet Marketing to support the community We've already run a 250k impressions campaign through our media channels, and we plan to run more. Our community growth hacker and Apache member Rich Bowen has covered Apache OpenOffice both on feathercast and SourceForge blog, and also here we plan to do more videos and interviews. Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [PROPOSAL] Get it here community download promotion program
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On May 13, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it. These range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate download links for many open source projects. Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP Branding. I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation. If there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website. =Use of the Apache OpenOffice Download Promotion Logo= Anyone, without additional permission from this project, may use the following logo subject to the following conditions: The logo: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png?version=1modificationDate=1331970198000 [NB. We should move this to a more memorable location] Conditions: 1. The logo may not be modified except to resize it. If translations of the Get it here! text are required, send a request to the ooo-dev list and we can provide a translated version for you. There should be a minimum size. Did you have a specific size in mind? Or would we state it more qualitatively, like The logo may be resized, provided it remains legible, but may not be otherwise altered. 2. The image must be linked to one of: This should probably be wored as The image must be directly linked to one of...I don't think we want to allow use of the logo in cases where it links to a different install program that installs adware and then invokes the real installer. Agree 100%, unfortunately few downloads websites add adware, tool-bars as well as malicious software. You might want to explicitely state that the download page can't be wrapped, though. Roberto a) the http://www.openoffice.org webpage b) one of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g., http://de.openoffice.org c) the download page for Apache OpenOffice: http://download.openoffice.org or http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html 3. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror. This causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice. 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF. +1 to the proposal. Regards, Dave -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [PROPOSAL] Get it here community download promotion program
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:55 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 15:47 +0200, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On May 13, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it. These range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate download links for many open source projects. Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP Branding. I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation. If there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website. =Use of the Apache OpenOffice Download Promotion Logo= Anyone, without additional permission from this project, may use the following logo subject to the following conditions: The logo: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png?version=1modificationDate=1331970198000 [NB. We should move this to a more memorable location] Conditions: 1. The logo may not be modified except to resize it. If translations of the Get it here! text are required, send a request to the ooo-dev list and we can provide a translated version for you. There should be a minimum size. Did you have a specific size in mind? Or would we state it more qualitatively, like The logo may be resized, provided it remains legible, but may not be otherwise altered. 2. The image must be linked to one of: This should probably be wored as The image must be directly linked to one of...I don't think we want to allow use of the logo in cases where it links to a different install program that installs adware and then invokes the real installer. Agree 100%, unfortunately few downloads websites add adware, tool-bars as well as malicious software. You might want to explicitely state that the download page can't be wrapped, though. Why not? For two reasons. Rob pointed out one of them. The other reason is that you could not be able tro track traffic on GA. Roberto Roberto a) the http://www.openoffice.org webpage b) one of the official Native Language pages at openoffice.org, e.g., http://de.openoffice.org c) the download page for Apache OpenOffice: http://download.openoffice.org or http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html 3. The logo must not link to a specific download file or mirror. This causes problems with load balancing and fallbacks and may prevent users from getting the latest version of OpenOffice. 4. Any use Apache-owned logos beyond the above is not covered by this program an must be explicitly requested from the ASF. +1 to the proposal. Regards, Dave -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [PROPOSAL] Get it here community download promotion program
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:55 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 10:57 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On May 13, 2012, at 7:45 AM, Rob Weir wrote: We get regular requests from individuals and companies that want to add a link to the AOO download, and to use the logo with it. These range from websites of individual users, to websites that aggregate download links for many open source projects. Currently, requesting and receiving such permission requires a request to the PMC, approval and then additional approval by the Apache VP Branding. I'd like to propose a streamlined approach where we can give blanket permission, without an additional request, for using a specific logo (the one that Drew designed) for a specific download situation. If there are no objections from the PMC, and we get a +1 from Trademarks@, I'll write this up on the website. =Use of the Apache OpenOffice Download Promotion Logo= Anyone, without additional permission from this project, may use the following logo subject to the following conditions: The logo: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/download/attachments/27834483/get-aoo-300x100-cf.png?version=1modificationDate=1331970198000 [NB. We should move this to a more memorable location] Conditions: 1. The logo may not be modified except to resize it. If translations of the Get it here! text are required, send a request to the ooo-dev list and we can provide a translated version for you. There should be a minimum size. Did you have a specific size in mind? Or would we state it more qualitatively, like The logo may be resized, provided it remains legible, but may not be otherwise altered. 2. The image must be linked to one of: This should probably be wored as The image must be directly linked to one of...I don't think we want to allow use of the logo in cases where it links to a different install program that installs adware and then invokes the real installer. Agree 100%, unfortunately few downloads websites add adware, tool-bars as well as malicious software. You might want to explicitely state that the download page can't be wrapped, though. To be precise: if someone wraps the download, then they are not eligible for this Get it here! program that would give automatic permission to use this specific logo. But if they have a good reason for wrapping, then they are free to do that in two ways; If they wrap you don't have any way to provide the end user with the hash, though. 1) By not using the AOO logos or 2) By requesting explicit permission to use the AOO logos. We would evaluate these requests on a case-by-case basis, just as we do now for all requests. So the point of the logo program is not to define absolute prohibitions. The idea is just to carve out an area that we are comfortable allowing the use of the logo without any further review by the PMC. IMHO this should include restrictions that prevent the most common abuses that we are aware of. But this is not an absolute prohibition. It just means if you want to do something outside of this particular promotion program you need to take the longer path of asking explicit permission. Hi, Yes, I understand the details of what we are talking about, thanks. First - To my thinking there is really only one issue - do they deliver an unaltered copy of the official binary release package? If yes, they are in compliance and how they do so is of no concern to us. Easiest way to be sure they don't alter is us being the download site. Anything else need to be checked, and unfortunately sometimes things change over time, so it's a continuous process. If no, then they are not in compliance and we should ask them to change or stop.ok, well actually I disagree with some of where Rob is heading with this However that is for the most general case. In this specific case, an expedited, no request required use, I agree that one adds conditions. My only real concern here is that these conditions should be kept to an absolute bare minimum. The vast majority of folks who will do this are honest agents and they will try to comply, for those who would do something a bit nefarious they won't care what we write. So - I would just stick with: They must acknowledge (disclose) the trademark owner (ASF) on their site. I would just give one link and say this is what you use: http://www.openoffice.org/download/ Finally, I would insist that the actual link be tied to the graphic - if you fly the graphic
Re: Performance!
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: I believe the correct baseline is neither LO nor Microsoft Office, but OpenOffice.org 3.3.0. And then successive versions of AOO starting with 3.4. It is the performance that this project has some responsibility for. LO and MSO performance are someone else's business. +1 I totally buy your line of thought. Think we should learn from Gillette, and its 'positive cannibalization', i.e. focusing its marketing resources on switching its own customers from N-1 to N release. Why that? Because openofffice _is_ the open source market leader, and the number of actual users is big enough to play à la Gillette. Anything else is just boring. My two cents, Roberto It is useful to know about interoperability performance cases if there is a situation where users of AOO are thwarted by a capacity, functionality, or speed issue that matters in accomplishing their work. That also alerts us to areas for us to work on. But serious quantitative assessment is a technical matter and it needs to be focused on our product, not one that is not our responsibility. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Xia Zhao [mailto:lilyzh...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 02:27 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Performance! I have replied in private mail list... And now replied here again. Usually we should have AOO 3.4 performance data before we ship it. What we should do now is building the performance baseline for AOO 3.4, and comparing with LO and MS office. Actually we are doing that now, try to build AOO 3.4 performance baseline using automation tool proposed in the community, that is, GUI+Lib. But it need time. I'd like give manual performance data for AOO 3.4 first. I have had some of the data. Best regards, Lily 2012/5/10 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw FYI ^_*' Please do not attack any party, or create any FUD. --- Original mail --- Subject: Performance! Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 23:51:47 +0200 From: Armin Le Grand armin_le_gr...@me.com Nice read: http://tinyurl.com/c24awgq -- ALG (iPad) -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/ -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Missing Extensions: PDFImport for Mac
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.comwrote: NO, to reply to myself, that is Good-Day's. I do have it on my system, and can post it to a server if you tell me where. It is, however, Oracle PDF Import, if that makes a difference. Even that one points to Good-Day. If you provide us with, we can upload it, please send a copy to me and/or to Dave Brondsema. Thanks! Roberto louis On 2012-05-11, at 14:38 , Roberto Galoppini wrote: Hi all, http://ooopackages.good-day.net doesn't serve that download anymore, it's dead. Maho can you help me? Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Another special Thanks for the Apache infra structure team
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: +1 On 5/10/2012 8:26 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, before we (the AOO project) move on with future work (and we have a lot in front of us) I would nevertheless send a big THANK YOU to the infra structure team. The infra team had a lot of extra work with our project because of our additional and special requirements to migrate a very huge existing infra structure to Apache. This important piece of work is often not mentioned but was a very huge task in our project over the last 10 month and the infra structure team have supported us very well. Thanks to all who was involved here. We have learned from each other and we as project has benefit from the collaboration with the infra team. And I am sure we will in the future as well. From a project perspective we will hopefully be able to find more volunteers who are able to support the infra team/project with future and further maintenance work related to specific things for our project but also to support infra in general. Thanks to all Juergen PS: I don't know how many beers I have to pay when we are hopefully can meet in person in the near future ;-) +beers(owed to infra) Just had a couple of beers in Brussels, look forward to offer you more once in Germany! Roberto -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Special Thanks to Andrew Rist
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: As we celebrate the release of Apache OpenOffice 3.4, I want to just take moment to recognize one project member who has been very busy, but also very quiet. The transition from Oracle to Apache did not end with Oracle submitting an SGA. That was just the beginning. From coordinating domain name transfers, to helping transition the many legacy online services, Without his help we couldn't actually migrate 40,000 Extensions+Templates users! Thanks, Roberto to handling administrative requests on legacy servers, to updating license info in source files, and on and on, including stuff I probably don't even know about. Oh, yes, and then he somehow found time to get the buildbots running. So thanks, Andrew, for your steady work on transitioning the project to Apache, and thanks as well to Oracle for making your efforts possible. Regards, -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [URGENT] Broken download link
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Reizinger Zoltán zreizin...@hdsnet.huwrote: 2012.05.08. 16:09 keltezéssel, Jürgen Schmidt írta: On 5/8/12 3:54 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: The download binaries link from http://incubator.apache.org/**openofficeorg/http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/is broken I don't see the problem, it works for me. Can somebody else confirm the problem ... But the transfered link to http://www.openoffice.org/**download/http://www.openoffice.org/download/sugest OOo 3.3, you can only download 3.4 from Get more patforms link. Yea, actually the download page has been changed, all I see is that it points to AOO 3.3 and those downloads are regularly served. Roberto Zoltan Juergen -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Social Promotion Kit for AOO 3.4
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+Social+Promotion+Kit I've started the above page to collect stories and blog posts about the AOO 3.4 release, along with other information that can be used by the community to help promote this new release. I've added some stuff there already. Please help me with more content. If you notice press coverage or other useful information, please update the wiki page. I'm especially short of international coverage. It has been covered at the SourceForge and at FeatherCast: https://sourceforge.net/blog/announcing-apache-open-office-34/ http://feathercast.apache.org/?p=165 (DE) Apache OpenOffice 3.4: neuer Name, neues Glück? http://stadt-bremerhaven.de/apache-openoffice-3-4-neuer-name-neues-glueck/ Finally I also wrote a blog entry at my commercial open source blog announcing the new release: http://robertogaloppini.net/2012/05/08/apache-openofficeorg-34-download-it-now/ Roberto Regards, -rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: New Committer: Roberto Galoppini
Thanks everyone for your warmth welcome, it's nice to be back in a community I have been involved for years. Roberto On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote: Welcome Roberto! Best regards, Carl On 05/04/2012 01:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote: The Apache OpenOffice PPMC announces the addition of committer and PPMC member Roberto Galoppini, galoppini@ apache.org The list of all current podling committers is at: http://people.apache.org/**committers-by-project.html#ooohttp://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#ooo **. Committers have a defined role in the workings of the Apache Software Foundation:http://www.apache.**org/foundation/how-it-works.**htmlhttp://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html . - the Apache OpenOffice PPMC -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: OpenOffice template website (problem with download counters)
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Rupert feisa.recur...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I am writing to let you know that there is a problem with the download counters on the OpenOffice template website. Currently the weekly, monthly, and annual downloads are not updated by the daily downloads. This means that any new template published on the website will not register any downloads per week, month, or year. It also means that the templates are not correctly ranked by popularity (except when ranked by daily downloads). I have written to Sourceforge about this and they have acknowledged that there is a technical issue with the download counters. A copy of the email is given below. Are here any plans to correct the technical issue or remove the week, month, annual download counters (perhaps being replaced by total downloads to date as shown for other files uploaded on Sourceforge)? As per my mail to Rupert's enquiry my suggestion for the time being it's to use SourceForge ones: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aoo-templates/files/ Note that you can: - set the data range; - get the data spliy b geographies (using /map e.g. http://goo.gl/jUSQO - get the data split by operating systems (using /os e.g. http://goo.gl/5Sr6Q) Last but not least, to aggregate stats you might take advantage of our APIs: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Download%20Stats%20API/ Hope it helps. Roberto Apart from the download counter issue many thanks for getting the template website fully functioning again. Warm Regards, Rupert Parsons Email from Sourceforge: Hi Rupert, the today's counter could work, but it's the only one. The reason is that counters are partially not compatible with i caching-systems, and before OpenOffice was transferred at Apache also Oracle kept them deactived. -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [RELEASE]: download page on the AOO project webpage
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On May 4, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I think we should offer mappings and have this page definitely download via the Apache mirrors. I know what to do to make this work with the Apache mirror cgi. I think I had read somewhere about Apache choosing to use SourceForge's network of mirrors around the world for distribution? That is correct for the www.openoffice.org/download/ main download page. The legacy 3.3 binaries should continue to be available from the MirrorBrain network. A portion of the Apache Mirrors will also seed AOO. The page being discussed here is on the project site at incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/. This page will serve through the Apache Mirrors. The mirror operators are seeding these large binaries and we need to use those as well. No. no. no. We're trying to reduce the number of places where download logic lives. If we have a download link for AOO on the incubator page it should just point to the download.openoffice.org. My understanding from past conversations on the binaries topic is that we'll have SourceForge serving binaries, and MirrorBrain serving updates. This will make easy to track downloads and have meaningful stats. Roberto A distribution consists of several pieces: 1) The binaries, i.e., the install images. These are served up via SourceForge 2) The source tarballs -- These could go out via Apache mirror network if we want. Or SourceForge. Is will be very low volume in either case. I'm for doing Source and SDK on the Apache Mirrors. 3) The detached signatures and hashes, For these we must link our page to the Apache copies on /dist. This is an essential part of the verification model. This is how the user is protected against a rogue mirror operator or a man-in-the-middle attack, They can always verify their download against the authoritative hashes and signature on the Apache server. This is a key point and should probably be a separate thread. Regards, Dave -Rob FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:26 PM, drew d...@baseanswers.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-05-04 at 14:12 -0400, Donald Harbison wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.netwrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/ Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our template repository? It might make sense to mention the templates and extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem. Someone who contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the overall OpenOffice effort. Numbers, here we go: - 864 Extensions, total 2856 releases - 2340 Templates in 18 languages: 25 da 313 de 57 el 1115 en 87 es 142 fr 2 he 14 hu 100 it 133 ja 46 nl 82 pl 54 pt-br 129 ru 9 sl 19 sv 3 zh-hans 10 zh-hant Let me add that next week we plan to go out with a blog entry about Extensions and Templates, containing some stats and an interview to one of the authors. If you wish we can coordinate the timing. My idea was to publish this a couple of days after the AOO 3.4 PR. For that day we are working on a short video showing some of the top features of the new release. I like your idea... but lets agree to allow the announcement post to stay 'on the top' for a couple of days at least; i.e. through Friday of next week, May 11. So you may want to target posting the week of May 14. Bear in mind that Juergen is planning to post one wearing his Release Manager hat, and going into more details on the release itself than we have done with the original announcement content. Of course we won't post before the announcement, that is why I shared a draft timeline here. So said, I believe we better go out with some material before others do, since by sharing the news in a positive way we have a chance to influence others to report it in a nice way. Consider also that our upcoming blog posts have been written by Rich Bowen, who is an official press outlet for the ASF at feathercast.org and is planning on running these videos there too. Another +1 on the ideas, the video particularly, here - and with the idea of staggering the publishing of these blogs and videos. @Roberto - the idea of a short video interview with extension developers, is this something you are considering on any kind of recurring basis? I quite like the idea, and maybe even mix in one of the core devs, should, or when, the opportunity presents itself. Anyway, it's easy for me to 'say'.. I know they take work. We plan to do at least two videos, and the interviews to Extensions' and Templates' creators are part of the 'old' plan to help the project. About mixing, we have already interviewed Jurgen and we plan to do more, so who ever is open and willing is more than welcome. Maybe I better move this discussion on ooo-marketing? Well, sure, but to be honest, there's not alot of eyeballs on ooo-marketing...yet. I'd agree with that also. Yea, I'll keep this stuff here, until we believe there is enough momentum to move it to ooo-marketing. Roberto //drew Roberto -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Apache mirrors are seeded
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote: We actually had our bandwidth controls a bit too tight for the first day, but in general I'd suggest anticipating about 24 hours between the time dist/ is populated and the time an adequate supply of mirrors have picked up the packages. Please continue to notify infra in advance of any dist/ drops. This is great news. Thanks. I trust someone is taking care of the Mirrorbrain network as we have no stake in seeding that. Not an issue yet. Initially we're not using MirrorBrain for AOO 3.4. But when we enable the automatic upgrade checking in a week or two, we'll direct that traffic to MirrorBrain. What about SourceForge? Roberto -- When will SourceForge be ready to start accepting load? We are ready, we'll be monitoring it closely at launch time, so that if the traffic is 10-20X times bigger than expected we can take appropriate actions. Roberto -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/02/2012 09:48 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/02/2012 03:04 AM, J�rgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, to sum up this longer thread and the structure how I will upload the bits Source release reflecting a future directory structure already: .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2 .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/... Binary releases keeping the old structure: .../incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ar/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/cs/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/de/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-BG/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/fr/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/gl/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/hu/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ja/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/nl/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ru/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-CN/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-TW/3.4.0/... The directories will include all files (including the checksum files) for all platforms and the language packs. The SDK is available in en-US only and o only in ...files/stable Juergen Thanks again for keeping things as they were for the time being. Hi all, We've loaded the current files, please let us know when youupload more files, so that we can update the rest in a timely manner. Roberto-- Hi. Well my test index page worked well with my linux setup for client download -- i.e. from files/stable/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz/download so happy so far. :) Thanks for the feedback. Roberto Please note that the 3.4.0 folder is staged on sourceforge, which means that directly links to files in it will work, but visitors browsing the files will not see them. By the way, is someone coordinating with MirrorBrain maintainers to manage updates to serve the Look for updates function? Roberto -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: Google Docs Boasts 450 New Fonts and 60 New Templates
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57426699-93/google-docs-boasts-450-new-fonts-and-60-new-templates/ Is there any easy way to tell how many templates we have in our template repository? It might make sense to mention the templates and extensions repositories in our AOO 3.4 announcement, since that is a statement on the scope of the larger ecosystem. Someone who contributes a template or writes an extension is a contributor to the overall OpenOffice effort. Numbers, here we go: - 864 Extensions, total 2856 releases - 2340 Templates in 18 languages: 25 da 313 de 57 el 1115en 87 es 142 fr 2 he 14 hu 100 it 133 ja 46 nl 82 pl 54 pt-br 129 ru 9 sl 19 sv 3 zh-hans 10 zh-hant Let me add that next week we plan to go out with a blog entry about Extensions and Templates, containing some stats and an interview to one of the authors. If you wish we can coordinate the timing. My idea was to publish this a couple of days after the AOO 3.4 PR. For that day we are working on a short video showing some of the top features of the new release. Maybe I better move this discussion on ooo-marketing? Roberto -Rob -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/02/2012 03:04 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, to sum up this longer thread and the structure how I will upload the bits Source release reflecting a future directory structure already: .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2 .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip .../incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/... Binary releases keeping the old structure: .../incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ar/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/cs/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/de/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-BG/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/es/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/fr/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/gl/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/hu/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ja/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/nl/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/ru/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-CN/3.4.0/... .../incubator/ooo/files/localized/zh-TW/3.4.0/... The directories will include all files (including the checksum files) for all platforms and the language packs. The SDK is available in en-US only and o only in ...files/stable Juergen Thanks again for keeping things as they were for the time being. Hi all, We've loaded the current files, please let us know when youupload more files, so that we can update the rest in a timely manner. Please note that the 3.4.0 folder is staged on sourceforge, which means that directly links to files in it will work, but visitors browsing the files will not see them. By the way, is someone coordinating with MirrorBrain maintainers to manage updates to serve the Look for updates function? Roberto -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette -- This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [RELEASE]: proposed directory structure on dist
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:47 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 04/30/2012 07:00 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: snip Right now I have the DL friendly script setup to only use SF...which is setup in the old way. I don't think we'll be usign Apache for pre-build client downloads. So, I have a question -- who will be setting up the SF packs and will they just stick with the current structure on that system for DLs -- i.e. root/files/stable/version/ pack name and root/files/localized/language/version/pack name I'm hoping the answer is YES. Whatever we do, let's try to get a directory schem that works now and for AOO 3.4.1 and AOO 3.5 and for AOO 4.0, etc.. This is not something where it will be easier to clean up later. Honestly spoken, I don't know if this will work. Of course it could be easy and fast to think about a directory structure that will work also for a AOO 5.0 release. However, I doubt that we will have the time to make the DL logic work this way, too. As I've no idea how close we are from the first public download of AOO 3.4 I wouldn't do bigger changes now. Thinking ahead, what do we do when we have a new release, like a 3.4.1? And what can we do now to make that future less painful? The DL logic for 3.4.1 can be the same as for 3.4.0. There shouldn't be big changes. For further releases see above. Juergen is already OK to setup the structure like it was in the old project, so that the need changes to the DL logic is minimal. It seems the easiest way to go to me too. Roberto To setup a new structure that makes maybe more sense can be done later for a release after 3.4.x. my 2 ct Marcus This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you.
Re: [RELEASE} a few DL questions...
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/27/2012 01:57 PM, Roberto Galoppini wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Roberto Galoppinirgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working on a prototype of the DL button in the /download/test area given our discussions about split mirror setup for 3.4 etc. I have a �few more edits to do �before sending out a notification about final review (later today). But...I have a few questions for this release. * The DL scripts have a good amount of logic surrounding the naming/download of 3.2 and 3.1 releases-- the old naming schema. Since we won't be providing friendly DL buttons for these anymore, is it safe to pull this stuff out? * DL locations for Mac PPC and FreeBSD are as follows (excuse wrapping): var MIRROR_MAC_PPC_URL � � �= http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/macosppc/;; var MIRROR_FREEBSD32_URL � �= http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86/;; var MIRROR_FREEBSD64_URL � �= http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86-64/;; Will this still be the case or will all versions be served from either Apache or SourceForge? The DL logic needs to be changed if this alternate URL is not used. I think the main download link should only provide links to official AOO releases. � We could have another section (maybe in other.html) where we can point to third party binaries and ports. �But we should have a disclaimer making it clear that these packages are not official releases. I also agree that we should not inter-mix 3.3 and 3.4 downloads. Another thing to consider is how we actually invoke the download. Right now we simply link to the SF site. �So after the download is done the user is left sitting at SF. �This is not ideal. � �I wonder whether it would be better to load the SF page in a new page, via target=_blank and then refresh our download.html to contribute.html so after the download is done, and the user closes the SF page, they are back in the openoffice website with a thanks for downloading messsage and followup info to engage the user in the community. Actually to avoid to open new pages we did modify the download page by adding all info previously available. We have been beta testing for over a week, and is now live. Hope this will remove the need to open new pages. Hi Roberto, So what we have today looks like this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_en-US.exe/download After the download, on the left, are some boxes that contain all the info that we used to show to the user here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/contribute.html That is good, since it gives several different ways for the user to engage with the project, etc. However, it is less prominent than before and does require additional mouse clicks to navigate the different sections. � �I think it is less effective than what we had before. �For example, I'm seeing only 47 referrals since April 11th from SF to our Get Involved paged, the first link given. �We used to get hundreds of these from the old contribute.html page. I wonder if simpler would be better? �So instead of the pop-up page which I suggested before, and which is annoying for some users, maybe keep the SF as it is, but make the content simpler, with the aim of referring users back to contribute.html. So something like this: Thanks for downloading Apache OpenOffice, the free and open productivity suit. � We invite you to learn more about how to enhance your experience with OpenOffice, sign up to receive important notifications and learn how you can contribute to make the next version of OpenOffice even better. If we make it short and sweet like that, maybe even use some of the AOO graphical elements, then mayb we can improve the engagement? But I'm not a web UI/marketing expert. �Maybe someone has some other ideas. Working on it, it will be operative by next Monday. Roberto I love what SourceForge has done here by the way! Very nice! and very creative from the norm. Here we go, we put the suggested text with some links, plus the Participate icon. For example: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/it/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_MacOS_x86_install_it.dmg/download Roberto -Rob Roberto -Rob Thanks for your time. -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you �And life has a funny way of helping you out �Helping you out. � � � � � � � � � � � � � �-- Ironic, Alanis Morissette This e- mail message is intended
Re: [RELEASE} a few DL questions...
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Roberto Galoppini rgalopp...@geek.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I've been working on a prototype of the DL button in the /download/test area given our discussions about split mirror setup for 3.4 etc. I have a few more edits to do before sending out a notification about final review (later today). But...I have a few questions for this release. * The DL scripts have a good amount of logic surrounding the naming/download of 3.2 and 3.1 releases-- the old naming schema. Since we won't be providing friendly DL buttons for these anymore, is it safe to pull this stuff out? * DL locations for Mac PPC and FreeBSD are as follows (excuse wrapping): var MIRROR_MAC_PPC_URL = http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/macosppc/;; var MIRROR_FREEBSD32_URL = http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86/;; var MIRROR_FREEBSD64_URL = http://ooopackages.good-day.net/pub/OpenOffice.org/contrib/freebsdx86-64/;; Will this still be the case or will all versions be served from either Apache or SourceForge? The DL logic needs to be changed if this alternate URL is not used. I think the main download link should only provide links to official AOO releases. We could have another section (maybe in other.html) where we can point to third party binaries and ports. But we should have a disclaimer making it clear that these packages are not official releases. I also agree that we should not inter-mix 3.3 and 3.4 downloads. Another thing to consider is how we actually invoke the download. Right now we simply link to the SF site. So after the download is done the user is left sitting at SF. This is not ideal. I wonder whether it would be better to load the SF page in a new page, via target=_blank and then refresh our download.html to contribute.html so after the download is done, and the user closes the SF page, they are back in the openoffice website with a thanks for downloading messsage and followup info to engage the user in the community. Actually to avoid to open new pages we did modify the download page by adding all info previously available. We have been beta testing for over a week, and is now live. Hope this will remove the need to open new pages. Hi Roberto, So what we have today looks like this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/3.3.0/OOo_3.3.0_Win_x86_install-wJRE_en-US.exe/download After the download, on the left, are some boxes that contain all the info that we used to show to the user here: http://www.openoffice.org/download/contribute.html That is good, since it gives several different ways for the user to engage with the project, etc. However, it is less prominent than before and does require additional mouse clicks to navigate the different sections. I think it is less effective than what we had before. For example, I'm seeing only 47 referrals since April 11th from SF to our Get Involved paged, the first link given. We used to get hundreds of these from the old contribute.html page. I wonder if simpler would be better? So instead of the pop-up page which I suggested before, and which is annoying for some users, maybe keep the SF as it is, but make the content simpler, with the aim of referring users back to contribute.html. So something like this: Thanks for downloading Apache OpenOffice, the free and open productivity suit. We invite you to learn more about how to enhance your experience with OpenOffice, sign up to receive important notifications and learn how you can contribute to make the next version of OpenOffice even better. If we make it short and sweet like that, maybe even use some of the AOO graphical elements, then mayb we can improve the engagement? But I'm not a web UI/marketing expert. Maybe someone has some other ideas. Working on it, it will be operative by next Monday. Roberto -Rob Roberto -Rob Thanks for your time. -- MzK Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you And life has a funny way of helping you out Helping you out. -- Ironic, Alanis Morissette This e- mail message is intended only for the named recipient(s) above. It may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail and any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachment(s) from your system. Thank you. This e
