Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-28 Thread Khoem Sokhem

Hello Juergen,


 On 26-Jun-12 7:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/26/12 4:24 AM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:

On 25-Jun-12 7:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Rob Weir wrote:

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:

Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official
download page
of Open Office?

You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list? As a
Bugzilla attachment?

Khoem was speaking about April 2011 (OpenOffice.org 3.4-beta); so it's
this issue, from the pre-Apache era:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117933
But some strings will have to be updated for OpenOffice 3.4.


That's correct for Khmer translations.

And Could you please add Khmer in
https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/? If Khmer language
available in Pootle, If it is available soon in Pootle my team can start
updating for the release of 3.4.1.

Khmer is now available on the Pootle server with the content that I have
found. Please check it. Easier for now would be if you could work
offline. You can find the AOO 3.4 related po files (same as on the
Pootle server) under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/sdf/aoo34_km_po.tar.gz

When you have an update create an issue and attach the updated po files.


I created a issue with the latest full translations for 3.4.1 at: 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=120111


Could you please commit to Pootle server?

Thanks,
Sokhem






If offline doesn't work for you, use the Pootle server and let me know.

Juergen



Thanks,
Sokhem










Regards,
   Andrea.










Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/26/12 4:24 AM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
 On 25-Jun-12 7:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
 Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official
 download page
 of Open Office?
 You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
 translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list? As a
 Bugzilla attachment?

 Khoem was speaking about April 2011 (OpenOffice.org 3.4-beta); so it's
 this issue, from the pre-Apache era:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117933
 But some strings will have to be updated for OpenOffice 3.4.
 
 
 That's correct for Khmer translations.
 
 And Could you please add Khmer in
 https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/? If Khmer language
 available in Pootle, If it is available soon in Pootle my team can start
 updating for the release of 3.4.1.

Khmer is now available on the Pootle server with the content that I have
found. Please check it. Easier for now would be if you could work
offline. You can find the AOO 3.4 related po files (same as on the
Pootle server) under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/sdf/aoo34_km_po.tar.gz

When you have an update create an issue and attach the updated po files.

If offline doesn't work for you, use the Pootle server and let me know.

Juergen

 
 
 Thanks,
 Sokhem
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 Regards,
   Andrea.

 
 




Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/26/12 2:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 6/26/12 4:24 AM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
 On 25-Jun-12 7:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
 Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official
 download page
 of Open Office?
 You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
 translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list? As a
 Bugzilla attachment?

 Khoem was speaking about April 2011 (OpenOffice.org 3.4-beta); so it's
 this issue, from the pre-Apache era:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117933
 But some strings will have to be updated for OpenOffice 3.4.


 That's correct for Khmer translations.

 And Could you please add Khmer in
 https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/? If Khmer language
 available in Pootle, If it is available soon in Pootle my team can start
 updating for the release of 3.4.1.
 
 Khmer is now available on the Pootle server with the content that I have
 found. Please check it. Easier for now would be if you could work
 offline. You can find the AOO 3.4 related po files (same as on the
 Pootle server) under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/sdf/aoo34_km_po.tar.gz
 
 When you have an update create an issue and attach the updated po files.
 
 If offline doesn't work for you, use the Pootle server and let me know.

too fast, the store update for Khmer help on the Pootle server is still
ongoing, please be patient...

Juergen


Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/26/12 2:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 6/26/12 2:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 6/26/12 4:24 AM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
 On 25-Jun-12 7:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 Rob Weir wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
 Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official
 download page
 of Open Office?
 You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
 translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list? As a
 Bugzilla attachment?

 Khoem was speaking about April 2011 (OpenOffice.org 3.4-beta); so it's
 this issue, from the pre-Apache era:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117933
 But some strings will have to be updated for OpenOffice 3.4.


 That's correct for Khmer translations.

 And Could you please add Khmer in
 https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/? If Khmer language
 available in Pootle, If it is available soon in Pootle my team can start
 updating for the release of 3.4.1.

 Khmer is now available on the Pootle server with the content that I have
 found. Please check it. Easier for now would be if you could work
 offline. You can find the AOO 3.4 related po files (same as on the
 Pootle server) under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/sdf/aoo34_km_po.tar.gz

 When you have an update create an issue and attach the updated po files.

 If offline doesn't work for you, use the Pootle server and let me know.
 
 too fast, the store update for Khmer help on the Pootle server is still
 ongoing, please be patient...

ok now it is available, looks not bad

UI 97 - 2335 words need translation
Help 99% - 4252 words need translation

Juergen

 
 Juergen
 




Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-26 Thread Khoem Sokhem

Hello Juergen,

Thank you very much for your effort for Khmer, I like to work on Pootle 
server but I cannot find the Register page in 
https://translate.apache.org/ I just see the Home page, Help and Log in 
at the right top of  the page. I also read the documentation at: 
https://translate.apache.org/docs/howto.html#registration


How can I register in order to update Khmer translations?


Regards,
Sokhem










On 26-Jun-12 7:50 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/26/12 2:34 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/26/12 2:32 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

On 6/26/12 4:24 AM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:

On 25-Jun-12 7:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Rob Weir wrote:

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:

Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official
download page
of Open Office?

You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list? As a
Bugzilla attachment?

Khoem was speaking about April 2011 (OpenOffice.org 3.4-beta); so it's
this issue, from the pre-Apache era:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117933
But some strings will have to be updated for OpenOffice 3.4.


That's correct for Khmer translations.

And Could you please add Khmer in
https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/? If Khmer language
available in Pootle, If it is available soon in Pootle my team can start
updating for the release of 3.4.1.

Khmer is now available on the Pootle server with the content that I have
found. Please check it. Easier for now would be if you could work
offline. You can find the AOO 3.4 related po files (same as on the
Pootle server) under http://people.apache.org/~jsc/sdf/aoo34_km_po.tar.gz

When you have an update create an issue and attach the updated po files.

If offline doesn't work for you, use the Pootle server and let me know.

too fast, the store update for Khmer help on the Pootle server is still
ongoing, please be patient...

ok now it is available, looks not bad

UI 97 - 2335 words need translation
Help 99% - 4252 words need translation

Juergen


Juergen








Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-26 Thread Javier Sola

On 6/25/12 6:47 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

we currently provide only full install set for the languages that we
releases or plan to release for 3.4.1. But we are open to support more
languages when we notice and see a working translation community for a
language. That means ideally not only 1 person but a group of people who
can actually review the translation ...

Hi Juergen,

The translation of OpenOffice to Khmer is done since 2004 by a group of 
professional localizers hired by the Open Institute (a local Cambodian 
NGO). Sokhem has been managing this group since 2005.


The NGO works with the Cambodian government on the migration of 
OpenOffice, and mostly with the Ministry of Education, which has made 
OpenOffice in Khmer compulsory in Education (MS is not allowed in schools).


We have always worked directly using .SDF files, not using Pootle, 
mostly because we were using XLIFF files instead of PO to localize, as 
it is much more efficient. We developed our own XLIFF editor (WordForge).


Having Khmer included in the list and having a 3.4.1 installer would be 
great for us, as the gap since 3.3 has already been to long. The 
translation in Pootle will be completed within this week.


Cheers,

Javier


We can include a Khmer language pack for the upcoming dev snapshots for
3.5 to help you verifying the current state of the translation.

Juergen







Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-26 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Am Mittwoch, 27. Juni 2012 um 05:17 schrieb Javier Sola:
 On 6/25/12 6:47 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
  we currently provide only full install set for the languages that we
  releases or plan to release for 3.4.1. But we are open to support more
  languages when we notice and see a working translation community for a
  language. That means ideally not only 1 person but a group of people who
  can actually review the translation ...
   
  
 Hi Juergen,
  
 The translation of OpenOffice to Khmer is done since 2004 by a group of  
 professional localizers hired by the Open Institute (a local Cambodian  
 NGO). Sokhem has been managing this group since 2005.
  
  

great, thanks for this background information. I was not involved in 
translation before, means I don't know all the details around the different 
teams/groups doing translation. But it is fascinating to hear and learn more 
about it.
  
 The NGO works with the Cambodian government on the migration of  
 OpenOffice, and mostly with the Ministry of Education, which has made  
 OpenOffice in Khmer compulsory in Education (MS is not allowed in schools).
  
  

perfect  
  
 We have always worked directly using .SDF files, not using Pootle,  
 mostly because we were using XLIFF files instead of PO to localize, as  
 it is much more efficient. We developed our own XLIFF editor (WordForge).
  
  

Do you want an updated sdf file? I can send you one.

Can you share more details about your XLIFF editor etc. Is it open source and 
can it be used by others? We still can improve our localization process and the 
project can definitely benefit from experts in this area (it's not me ;-)) who 
can help to drive things forward.
  
 Having Khmer included in the list and having a 3.4.1 installer would be  
 great for us, as the gap since 3.3 has already been to long. The  
 translation in Pootle will be completed within this week.
  
Ok, we have it on the list now.

Juergen
  
  
 Cheers,
  
 Javier
   
  We can include a Khmer language pack for the upcoming dev snapshots for
  3.5 to help you verifying the current state of the translation.
   
  Juergen  



Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-25 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem khoemsok...@khmeros.info wrote:
 Hello All,

 I am attempting to download Open Office Incubator 3.4 from
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html, but I could not find Khmer
 language.

 I have asked in the ooo-users mailing list and I got recommended to ask in
 this list. Currently, I am still working on translating Open Office into
 Khmer.

 Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official download page
 of Open Office?


HI Khoem,

You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list?  As a
Bugzilla attachment?

Generally, we include any complete translations in our releases.  We
have a 3.4.1 release planned for the end of July.  So if the Khmer
translation is ready, this would be great timing.

-Rob


 Thanks  Regards,
 Sokhem





Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/25/12 5:39 AM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I am attempting to download Open Office Incubator 3.4 from
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html, but I could not find
 Khmer language.
 
 I have asked in the ooo-users mailing list and I got recommended to ask
 in this list. Currently, I am still working on translating Open Office
 into Khmer.

perfect, do you need any help? For example do you need the po files for
offline translation?

 
 Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official download
 page of Open Office?

we currently provide only full install set for the languages that we
releases or plan to release for 3.4.1. But we are open to support more
languages when we notice and see a working translation community for a
language. That means ideally not only 1 person but a group of people who
can actually review the translation ...

We can include a Khmer language pack for the upcoming dev snapshots for
3.5 to help you verifying the current state of the translation.

Juergen




Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-25 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 6/25/12 1:44 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem khoemsok...@khmeros.info 
 wrote:
 Hello All,

 I am attempting to download Open Office Incubator 3.4 from
 http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html, but I could not find Khmer
 language.

 I have asked in the ooo-users mailing list and I got recommended to ask in
 this list. Currently, I am still working on translating Open Office into
 Khmer.

 Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official download page
 of Open Office?

 
 HI Khoem,
 
 You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
 translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list?  As a
 Bugzilla attachment?
 
 Generally, we include any complete translations in our releases.  We
 have a 3.4.1 release planned for the end of July.  So if the Khmer
 translation is ready, this would be great timing.

maybe I have overseen it and it would be indeed helpful to create
bugzilla issue.

See for example https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119333

Juergen

 
 -Rob
 

 Thanks  Regards,
 Sokhem







Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-25 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Rob Weir wrote:

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:

Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official download page
of Open Office?

You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list?  As a
Bugzilla attachment?


Khoem was speaking about April 2011 (OpenOffice.org 3.4-beta); so it's 
this issue, from the pre-Apache era:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117933
But some strings will have to be updated for OpenOffice 3.4.

Regards,
  Andrea.


Re: Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-25 Thread Khoem Sokhem

On 25-Jun-12 7:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:

Rob Weir wrote:

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Khoem Sokhem wrote:
Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official 
download page

of Open Office?

You mentioned on the ooo-users list that you had sent a Khmer
translation in April.  Where did you send that?  To this list? As a
Bugzilla attachment?


Khoem was speaking about April 2011 (OpenOffice.org 3.4-beta); so it's 
this issue, from the pre-Apache era:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117933
But some strings will have to be updated for OpenOffice 3.4.



That's correct for Khmer translations.

And Could you please add Khmer in 
https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34/? If Khmer language 
available in Pootle, If it is available soon in Pootle my team can start 
updating for the release of 3.4.1.



Thanks,
Sokhem











Regards,
  Andrea.






Propose Khmer language in download page

2012-06-24 Thread Khoem Sokhem

Hello All,

I am attempting to download Open Office Incubator 3.4 from 
http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html, but I could not find 
Khmer language.


I have asked in the ooo-users mailing list and I got recommended to ask 
in this list. Currently, I am still working on translating Open Office 
into Khmer.


Could you please provide Khmer language pack in the official download 
page of Open Office?



Thanks  Regards,
Sokhem