Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-14 Thread Kay Schenk 
2012/3/13 Jürgen Schmidt 

> On 3/12/12 11:28 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Rist**
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 3/12/2012 9:14 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>
>>>  2012/3/12 Jürgen 
>>> Schmidthttp://googlemail.com>
 >


>
  Hi,

>
> I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots
> based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is
> not
> the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an
> increased buildid.
>
>  Hi Juergen--
>

 Could someone at some point enlighten us as to WHY the latest revisions
 aren't automatically scooped up by the buildbot?

  The build bots pull the latest code every night.
>>>
>>>  Or amybe a wiki page on
>>>
 this??? I also notice that the Linux-32 build via buildbot still has
 issues, and wonder, why, if changes have been successfully made to this
 build AND supposedly it's being built by Ubuntu (same as the developer
 builds), it still has issues.

  The Linux-32 build bot is on Ubuntu 11.10 (as opposed to 10.04).  There
>>> are issues related to building on the newer Ubuntu.
>>> We've been working through them, but there is one issue left with symbols
>>> in CoinMP.  I have not had time to work through that issue.
>>>
>>>
>> Andrew--Thanks for the clarification. I was confused by the wording in
>> Juergen's message somehow...I thought what you are saying was the case.
>>
>>
>>  sorry for the confusion.
>
> I think our long term goal is to use the build bots to build binary
> versions that are identical to our binary releases as well.
>
> And as Ariel has pointed out for this specific builds we need some
> baseline systems that are not typically the latest and greatest ;-)
>

So what do you suggest? Can "virtual" builbots be established for "older"
OSes, and for which ones? I don't know what is causing the problem with
Ubuntu 11.10 as opposed to 10.04. Is it a very non-standard (library)
change by Ubuntu that might continue in the future? Should we switch to a
more "generic" Linux buildbot? I don't have any suggestions. I'm just
thinking...




> The Oracle release engineers put a lot of effort in keeping a stable
> baseline to ensure that the builds work on as many as possible systems. You
> can't it compare to build versions for a special distro.
>
> And of course it would be ideal if the Linux distros would include AOO
> over time in their distro and would build it based on the source releases.
>
> Juergen
>
>
>>> (I am wondering if CoinMP is deployed on the system - outside of the
>>> build
>>> tree - when it is compiled.  If so a version using a different set of g++
>>> and ld may be on the system, and blocking it from being rebuilt.)
>>>
>>> Anyway - it is down to the last four packages, and 'almost' builds ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I confess I know NOTHING about the buildbot,
>>>
 so if you can point me (and others) to some instructions that might be
 helpful.

  
 http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/buildlogs/**linux32/**
>>> log/unxlngi6.pro.build.html>> openoffice/buildlogs/linux32/**log/unxlngi6.pro.build.html
>>> >
>>>
>>> that shows the latest set of logs
>>>
>>> http://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly
>>> http://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly>
>>> >
>>>
>>> shows the latest builds - click on a build and you can see the set of
>>> steps it goes through.
>>>
>>>
>> Right, yes...I've looked at these. I need to learn more about the setup
>> (inclusions etc) we have setup FOR the build as there appears to be
>> several
>> options. But I will explore on my own for the time being. Thanks again for
>> this response. I would like to help with building but haven't had  the
>> time
>> to it so far.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> A.
>>>
>>>
 Thanks for everything! :)



  It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper
 issues.

> I hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.
>
> I would like to propose also that we continue to provide
> normal/complete
> install sets for all languages.
>
> The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero
> response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an
> idea
> what we can do to get some early feedback.
>
> The builds will be made available again under
> https://cwiki.apache.org/**
> confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**AOO+3.4+Unofficial+**Developer+***
> *Snapshots
> OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots>>

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-13 Thread Rob Weir 
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based
> on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the
> latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an increased
> buildid.
>
> It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper issues. I
> hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.
>
> I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete
> install sets for all languages.
>
> The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero response
> so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an idea what we can
> do to get some early feedback.
>
> The builds will be made available again under
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots
>

Windows XP.   I uninstalled everything, did a clean install of OOo
3.3, and then installed 3.4. Same issue with extensions, but we
already know about that.

Otherwise, it looks really good.   It seems faster.

-Rob

> Juergen

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-13 Thread Jürgen Schmidt 

On 3/12/12 11:28 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Ristwrote:




On 3/12/2012 9:14 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:


2012/3/12 Jürgen 
Schmidt




  Hi,


I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots
based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not
the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an
increased buildid.

  Hi Juergen--


Could someone at some point enlighten us as to WHY the latest revisions
aren't automatically scooped up by the buildbot?


The build bots pull the latest code every night.

  Or amybe a wiki page on

this??? I also notice that the Linux-32 build via buildbot still has
issues, and wonder, why, if changes have been successfully made to this
build AND supposedly it's being built by Ubuntu (same as the developer
builds), it still has issues.


The Linux-32 build bot is on Ubuntu 11.10 (as opposed to 10.04).  There
are issues related to building on the newer Ubuntu.
We've been working through them, but there is one issue left with symbols
in CoinMP.  I have not had time to work through that issue.



Andrew--Thanks for the clarification. I was confused by the wording in
Juergen's message somehow...I thought what you are saying was the case.



sorry for the confusion.

I think our long term goal is to use the build bots to build binary 
versions that are identical to our binary releases as well.


And as Ariel has pointed out for this specific builds we need some 
baseline systems that are not typically the latest and greatest ;-)


The Oracle release engineers put a lot of effort in keeping a stable 
baseline to ensure that the builds work on as many as possible systems. 
You can't it compare to build versions for a special distro.


And of course it would be ideal if the Linux distros would include AOO 
over time in their distro and would build it based on the source releases.


Juergen



(I am wondering if CoinMP is deployed on the system - outside of the build
tree - when it is compiled.  If so a version using a different set of g++
and ld may be on the system, and blocking it from being rebuilt.)

Anyway - it is down to the last four packages, and 'almost' builds ;-)



  I confess I know NOTHING about the buildbot,

so if you can point me (and others) to some instructions that might be
helpful.


http://ci.apache.org/projects/**openoffice/buildlogs/linux32/**
log/unxlngi6.pro.build.html
that shows the latest set of logs

http://ci.apache.org/builders/**openoffice-linux32-nightly
shows the latest builds - click on a build and you can see the set of
steps it goes through.



Right, yes...I've looked at these. I need to learn more about the setup
(inclusions etc) we have setup FOR the build as there appears to be several
options. But I will explore on my own for the time being. Thanks again for
this response. I would like to help with building but haven't had  the time
to it so far.





A.



Thanks for everything! :)



  It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper issues.

I hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.

I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete
install sets for all languages.

The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero
response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an idea
what we can do to get some early feedback.

The builds will be made available again under
https://cwiki.apache.org/**
confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+***
*Snapshots




Juergen






--

Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect
OracleCorporate Architecture Group
Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile 
Hi Kay, Andrew, *

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:11PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >> Could someone at some point enlighten us as to WHY the latest revisions
> >> aren't automatically scooped up by the buildbot?
> >>
> > The build bots pull the latest code every night.
> >
> >  Or amybe a wiki page on
> >> this??? I also notice that the Linux-32 build via buildbot still has
> >> issues, and wonder, why, if changes have been successfully made to this
> >> build AND supposedly it's being built by Ubuntu (same as the developer
> >> builds), it still has issues.
> >>
> > The Linux-32 build bot is on Ubuntu 11.10 (as opposed to 10.04).  There

building on a such a newer Ubuntu version also brings the question about
how universal would its built packages be. By "universal" I mean if they
could be installed on different Linux distros.

For example, I use/work on Fedora 16, but had to set two Ubuntu 10.04.3
LTS (32 and 64 bits) partitions to build the Developer Snapshots: Fedora
comes with the latest and greatest standard libraries, this makes
impossible to install the packages built on Fedora 16 even on the latest
Ubuntu version due to a conflict with the system's standard libraries.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile 
Hi all,

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:48:59AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev
> snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed
> revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I
> would like to include an increased buildid.
> 
> It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper
> issues. I hope that we can start a second build later this week if
> possible.
> 
> I would like to propose also that we continue to provide
> normal/complete install sets for all languages.
> 
> The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero
> response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an
> idea what we can do to get some early feedback.
> 
> The builds will be made available again under 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots
> 
> Juergen


Linux packages are now available.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Kay Schenk 
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Rist wrote:

>
>
> On 3/12/2012 9:14 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> 2012/3/12 Jürgen 
>> Schmidt
>> >
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots
>>> based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not
>>> the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an
>>> increased buildid.
>>>
>>>  Hi Juergen--
>>
>> Could someone at some point enlighten us as to WHY the latest revisions
>> aren't automatically scooped up by the buildbot?
>>
> The build bots pull the latest code every night.
>
>  Or amybe a wiki page on
>> this??? I also notice that the Linux-32 build via buildbot still has
>> issues, and wonder, why, if changes have been successfully made to this
>> build AND supposedly it's being built by Ubuntu (same as the developer
>> builds), it still has issues.
>>
> The Linux-32 build bot is on Ubuntu 11.10 (as opposed to 10.04).  There
> are issues related to building on the newer Ubuntu.
> We've been working through them, but there is one issue left with symbols
> in CoinMP.  I have not had time to work through that issue.
>

Andrew--Thanks for the clarification. I was confused by the wording in
Juergen's message somehow...I thought what you are saying was the case.


>
> (I am wondering if CoinMP is deployed on the system - outside of the build
> tree - when it is compiled.  If so a version using a different set of g++
> and ld may be on the system, and blocking it from being rebuilt.)
>
> Anyway - it is down to the last four packages, and 'almost' builds ;-)
>
>
>
>  I confess I know NOTHING about the buildbot,
>> so if you can point me (and others) to some instructions that might be
>> helpful.
>>
> http://ci.apache.org/projects/**openoffice/buildlogs/linux32/**
> log/unxlngi6.pro.build.html
> that shows the latest set of logs
>
> http://ci.apache.org/builders/**openoffice-linux32-nightly
> shows the latest builds - click on a build and you can see the set of
> steps it goes through.
>

Right, yes...I've looked at these. I need to learn more about the setup
(inclusions etc) we have setup FOR the build as there appears to be several
options. But I will explore on my own for the time being. Thanks again for
this response. I would like to help with building but haven't had  the time
to it so far.



>
> A.
>
>>
>> Thanks for everything! :)
>>
>>
>>
>>  It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper issues.
>>> I hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.
>>>
>>> I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete
>>> install sets for all languages.
>>>
>>> The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero
>>> response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an idea
>>> what we can do to get some early feedback.
>>>
>>> The builds will be made available again under
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**
>>> confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+***
>>> *Snapshots>> OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+**Developer+Snapshots
>>> >
>>>
>>> Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
>
> Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect
> OracleCorporate Architecture Group
> Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847
>
>


-- 

MzK

"Follow your bliss."
 -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann 

Hi,

On 12.03.2012 09:48, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on
the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest
working buildbot revision but I would like to include an increased buildid.

It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper issues. I hope
that we can start a second build later this week if possible.

I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete install
sets for all languages.

The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero response so
far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an idea what we can do to
get some early feedback.

The builds will be made available again under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots




The Windows developer snapshot builds for this revision are available.

Happy testing, Oliver.

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Andrew Rist 



On 3/12/2012 9:14 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:

2012/3/12 Jürgen Schmidt


Hi,

I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots
based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not
the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an
increased buildid.


Hi Juergen--

Could someone at some point enlighten us as to WHY the latest revisions
aren't automatically scooped up by the buildbot?

The build bots pull the latest code every night.

Or amybe a wiki page on
this??? I also notice that the Linux-32 build via buildbot still has
issues, and wonder, why, if changes have been successfully made to this
build AND supposedly it's being built by Ubuntu (same as the developer
builds), it still has issues.
The Linux-32 build bot is on Ubuntu 11.10 (as opposed to 10.04).  There 
are issues related to building on the newer Ubuntu.
We've been working through them, but there is one issue left with 
symbols in CoinMP.  I have not had time to work through that issue.


(I am wondering if CoinMP is deployed on the system - outside of the 
build tree - when it is compiled.  If so a version using a different set 
of g++ and ld may be on the system, and blocking it from being rebuilt.)


Anyway - it is down to the last four packages, and 'almost' builds ;-)



I confess I know NOTHING about the buildbot,
so if you can point me (and others) to some instructions that might be
helpful.

http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/buildlogs/linux32/log/unxlngi6.pro.build.html
that shows the latest set of logs

http://ci.apache.org/builders/openoffice-linux32-nightly
shows the latest builds - click on a build and you can see the set of 
steps it goes through.


A.


Thanks for everything! :)




It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper issues.
I hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.

I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete
install sets for all languages.

The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero
response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an idea
what we can do to get some early feedback.

The builds will be made available again under https://cwiki.apache.org/**
confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshots

Juergen






--

Andrew Rist | Interoperability Architect
OracleCorporate Architecture Group
Redwood Shores, CA | 650.506.9847

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Kay Schenk 
2012/3/12 Jürgen Schmidt 

> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots
> based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not
> the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an
> increased buildid.
>

Hi Juergen--

Could someone at some point enlighten us as to WHY the latest revisions
aren't automatically scooped up by the buildbot? Or amybe a wiki page on
this??? I also notice that the Linux-32 build via buildbot still has
issues, and wonder, why, if changes have been successfully made to this
build AND supposedly it's being built by Ubuntu (same as the developer
builds), it still has issues. I confess I know NOTHING about the buildbot,
so if you can point me (and others) to some instructions that might be
helpful.

Thanks for everything! :)



> It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper issues.
> I hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.
>
> I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete
> install sets for all languages.
>
> The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero
> response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an idea
> what we can do to get some early feedback.
>
> The builds will be made available again under https://cwiki.apache.org/**
> confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+**Snapshots
>
> Juergen
>



-- 

MzK

"Follow your bliss."
 -- attributed to Joseph Campbell

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir 
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based
> on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the
> latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an increased
> buildid.
>
> It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper issues. I
> hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.
>
> I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete
> install sets for all languages.
>
> The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero response
> so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an idea what we can
> do to get some early feedback.
>

Maybe respond to your original note when the new dev snapshot is available.

Also, although it is not formally required, our project is so large
and complex that it might be worth coming up with a wiki page or a
document that outlines what is in our release, and what we've done to
make it.  Focus on the license and IP side of things. Imagine what
questions the IPMC might have, and addresses these in the report.

For example:

-- LICENSE and NOTICE

- How we are treating category-b code, both in build and release

- "Mere aggregation" of dictionaries, with link to the legal-discuss JIRA issue

- RAT scans

In general, something like a "reviewers guide" to help IPMC members
review the RC.

-Rob

> The builds will be made available again under
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots
>
> Juergen

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt 

On 3/12/12 10:05 AM, rjaas...@saunalahti.fi wrote:

Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti:

Hi,

I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots
based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is
not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include
an increased buildid.

It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper
issues. I hope that we can start a second build later this week if
possible.

I would like to propose also that we continue to provide
normal/complete install sets for all languages.

The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero
response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an
idea what we can do to get some early feedback.

The builds will be made available again under
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots


Juergen



Hello
I can't see any time stamp on the loading page so I can't know if there
is new file for testing. Or at least it is hard to see if there is some
newer file than that I already has downloaded.
Regards
Risto


we provide one build for each revision, you can check the revision. So 
watch for the availability of revision 1299571


Juergen

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread rjaaskel 
Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: 

Hi,

I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots 
based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is 
not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an 
increased buildid.


It is still no a official RC because of the existing show stopper 
issues. I hope that we can start a second build later this week if possible.


I would like to propose also that we continue to provide normal/complete 
install sets for all languages.


The dev snapshot from last week was proposed to the IPMC with zero 
response so far. Not really promising and maybe somebody else has an 
idea what we can do to get some early feedback.


The builds will be made available again under 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots


Juergen



Hello
I can't see any time stamp on the loading page so I can't know if there is new 
file for testing. Or at least it is hard to see if there is some newer file 
than that I already has downloaded.
Regards
Risto