Re: [VOTE] Trademark and Brand
a) Apache OpenOffice.org Best Regards, Lily Zhao（赵遐） QE Lead, Symphony Email:zhao...@cn.ibm.com Tel: 8610-82452706 Tieline: 9052706 IBM China Software Development Lab *If you are not part of solution, you are part of problem* Peter Junge peter.junge@gmx. org To ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, 11/11/2011 08:48 cc AM Subject Re: [VOTE] Trademark and Brand Please respond to ooo-dev@incubator .apache.org a) Apache OpenOffice.org Peter On 11/11/2011 3:07 AM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: a) Apache OpenOffice.org +1 M.
Who knows Apache OO 3.4 Test Cases and Old Test Plan?
I am contributing to draft Apache OO 3.4 test plan and want help on old 3.4 test cases and test plan. Anyone know where I can get the old test cases and old test plan? Thanks. Best Regards, Lily Zhao（赵遐） QE Lead, Symphony Email:zhao...@cn.ibm.com Tel: 8610-82452706 Tieline: 9052706 IBM China Software Development Lab *If you are not part of solution, you are part of problem*
Re: Manual TCS from the former Quaste
Wolfram, I am looking for the same asset. If no one knows, I think the migration work can be done by our QA volunteers. The problem is we need find the archive asset. Best Regards, Lily Zhao（赵遐） QE Lead, Symphony Email:zhao...@cn.ibm.com Tel: 8610-82452706 Tieline: 9052706 IBM China Software Development Lab *If you are not part of solution, you are part of problem* Wolfram Garten wolframgarten@go oglemail.com To ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org, 11/15/2011 06:02 cc AM Subject Manual TCS from the former Quaste Please respond to ooo-dev@incubator .apache.org Hi everybody, maybe someone with deeper knowledge can give me a hint. All the manual Testcase specifications of the QA were hosted on the Quaste server. This one is switched off by now. Does anybody know if this information will be available for the community again ? It would be very sad if all this work and knowledge is lost. Maybe there is another archive I do not have knowledge of. Thanks in advance! Regards, Wolfram
[AOO 3.4 Test Plan Discussion]Overview
Hi all, I think it's time for use to discuss and detail AOO 3.4 test plan now. Basically at current time I suggest: 1. Leverage OpenOffice users on General Usage test 2. Focus on establishing automation mechanism. Start from Build Verification Testing(BVT in short). 3. Focus on test infrastructure set up. Start from case management tool. For 3.4, place the test cases on wiki and volunteer can do general testing against. If volunteer couldn't write cases, may give the test scope he would do. For example, which component etc. And then report defects in Apache Bugzilla. 4. Focus on Performance Verification Testing(PVT in short) investigation, and setup benchmark PVT environment. 5. Establish QA entry in AOO wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/ 6. Build private build before official build is ready 7. Platform will be covered - Windows XP - Win7 32bit/64bit - Where we only have a 32bit windows version, it should run against 62bit windows version. - Redhat 6 32 bit/64 bit - Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit/64 bit - Mac 10.7 - Mac 10.6.x - FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 (9.0 is suppose to release at 12/07/2011?) - OS2 Welcome your comments.
Re: [AOO 3.4 Test Plan Discussion]Overview
Rob, 2011/11/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:58 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think it's time for use to discuss and detail AOO 3.4 test plan now. Basically at current time I suggest: Hi Lily, Thanks for the proposal. 1. Leverage OpenOffice users on General Usage test For this to work we need: 1) Test cases that are clear and easy to understand 2) Test cases that can be run without requiring a lot of preparation 3) Test cases that can be run without dedicating much time. How can someone help who has only 1 hour to contribute? 4) Test cases that can be run without learning a lot of other tools or processes 2. Focus on establishing automation mechanism. Start from Build Verification Testing(BVT in short). Is the the same as a smoke test? 3. Focus on test infrastructure set up. Start from case management tool. For 3.4, place the test cases on wiki and volunteer can do general testing against. If volunteer couldn't write cases, may give the test scope he would do. For example, which component etc. And then report defects in Apache Bugzilla. Maybe we also need a guide to writing test cases? Or point to something that already exists for the project. 4. Focus on Performance Verification Testing(PVT in short) investigation, and setup benchmark PVT environment. OK. 5. Establish QA entry in AOO wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/ OK. 6. Build private build before official build is ready OK. 7. Platform will be covered - Windows XP - Win7 32bit/64bit - Where we only have a 32bit windows version, it should run against 62bit windows version. - Redhat 6 32 bit/64 bit - Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit/64 bit - Mac 10.7 - Mac 10.6.x - FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 (9.0 is suppose to release at 12/07/2011?) - OS2 For platforms, maybe we think about them like this: 1) In order to preserve the value of the OpenOffice brand among users and our reputation for high quality, we will have an official Apache binary release only on platforms that have successfully completed the QA plan that we all agree on. Yes, I agree our focus would be Linux, Windows and Mac. 2) Volunteers, based on their interests, will determine which platforms are officially supported in releases. 3) Platforms that do not have enough volunteers to complete the test plan would not have official Apache releases. Or if we had releases, they would be called experimental or some other name to indicate that they were not fully tested. Yes. For FreeBSD, OS2 Port or Solaris, if OpenOffice users would like contribute their effort on these platforms it is appreciated. But these platforms without enough volunteers to complete the test plan would not have offical Apache release. 4) Of course, anyone is welcome to take our official source releases and make a build on another platform and distribute it. But these would not be official Apache releases. Totally agree. -Rob Welcome your comments.
Re: Put test case to wiki
2011/11/28 Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch Hi Am 28.11.11 08:51, schrieb Yan Ji: Currently, there is no test management tool available for AOO. So we have nowhere to put test case. For AOO 3.4 release, can we put test case to wiki? and which folder should we put them into? Anyone can help? Maybe you put it under Build-QA-Plan I don't think this foloder is fit for test cases. My understanding the testing defined Build-QA-Plan is at smoke test level. Suggest create fnew sub older under Release-QA-Plan and place related cases there. My question is if specific cases are needed at current time? Or only some cases for general usage are enough, can you explain more detail about the test cases? Greetings Raphael -- My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/
How to get authority to edit wiki page
Hi, I am trying to update the wiki page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance and get infomraiton I haven't permision to edit this page. Then I was linked to this page to tell me only Autoconfirmed_users has authority to do it. But when I checked below page, it has been deleted. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice.org_Wiki:Autoconfirmed_users So anyone can show me how can I get authority to edit this wiki page? I need update this page and placed AOO 3.4 related test cases testing result on this wiki page. Thanks a lot. Best Regrads, Lily Zhao
Re: Who knows Apache OO 3.4 Test Cases and Old Test Plan?
2011/12/7 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org On 15/11/2011 Peter Junge wrote: Am 12.11.2011 20:14, schrieb Uwe Altmann: Once there was http://www.sunvirtuallab.com:**8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_** index.cgi?tcm_config=newooohttp://www.sunvirtuallab.com:8001/tcm2/opensource/tcm_index.cgi?tcm_config=newooo as a home of tcm (test case management) - there have been a lot of test cases for manual tests we used especially for L10n checks. Obviously, the site can been reached no longer. ... I guess Andrew Rist should be able to answers that. Yes, it would be very nice to get Oracle to include all the TCM test cases (that were assumed to be proprietary, even though in most cases they had been translated by the native-lang communities) in the SGA, or to provide them to the community in some form. The TCM platform itself can probably be replaced, but having the test cases database available would drastically reduce the effort needed for building a QA platform. Yes, TCM platform can be replaced but it maybe another topic, we need know if Apache can host the TCM server though I am planing using open source case management tool for AOO testing. Again, for the old test cases, who knows if there are some legeal issues or not to migrate? Or we can get these assets with free licenses? Regards, Andrea.
Re: [AOO 3.4 Test Plan Discussion]Overview
Andor, It will be much appreciated if you can share it with free license. And we can see if some volunters can contribute to the translation. Hope your response. Thanks. 2011/11/24 Andor E eymux2...@googlemail.com Hi, for our project we have a sizeable amount of manual test cases for OpenOffice.org (created by professional test engineers). These are used for internal and user tests before a release. If there's a serious interest in it, I might be able to arrange a release of these test cases under a free license (creative commons?). They are written in German, though, and would need to be translated first. Greetings Andor Ertsey On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:58 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think it's time for use to discuss and detail AOO 3.4 test plan now. Basically at current time I suggest: Hi Lily, Thanks for the proposal. 1. Leverage OpenOffice users on General Usage test For this to work we need: 1) Test cases that are clear and easy to understand 2) Test cases that can be run without requiring a lot of preparation 3) Test cases that can be run without dedicating much time. How can someone help who has only 1 hour to contribute? 4) Test cases that can be run without learning a lot of other tools or processes 2. Focus on establishing automation mechanism. Start from Build Verification Testing(BVT in short). Is the the same as a smoke test? 3. Focus on test infrastructure set up. Start from case management tool. For 3.4, place the test cases on wiki and volunteer can do general testing against. If volunteer couldn't write cases, may give the test scope he would do. For example, which component etc. And then report defects in Apache Bugzilla. Maybe we also need a guide to writing test cases? Or point to something that already exists for the project. 4. Focus on Performance Verification Testing(PVT in short) investigation, and setup benchmark PVT environment. OK. 5. Establish QA entry in AOO wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/ OK. 6. Build private build before official build is ready OK. 7. Platform will be covered - Windows XP - Win7 32bit/64bit - Where we only have a 32bit windows version, it should run against 62bit windows version. - Redhat 6 32 bit/64 bit - Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit/64 bit - Mac 10.7 - Mac 10.6.x - FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 (9.0 is suppose to release at 12/07/2011?) - OS2 For platforms, maybe we think about them like this: 1) In order to preserve the value of the OpenOffice brand among users and our reputation for high quality, we will have an official Apache binary release only on platforms that have successfully completed the QA plan that we all agree on. 2) Volunteers, based on their interests, will determine which platforms are officially supported in releases. 3) Platforms that do not have enough volunteers to complete the test plan would not have official Apache releases. Or if we had releases, they would be called experimental or some other name to indicate that they were not fully tested. 4) Of course, anyone is welcome to take our official source releases and make a build on another platform and distribute it. But these would not be official Apache releases. -Rob Welcome your comments.
Re: How to get authority to edit wiki page
Many thanks TJ, but unfortunatelly I tried and seems I still couldn't edit page... Maybe I have to wait four days?.. 2011/12/7 TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com On 12/7/2011 02:40, xia zhao wrote: Hi, I am trying to update the wiki page: http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Quality_**Assurancehttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance and get infomraiton I haven't permision to edit this page. Then I was linked to this page to tell me only Autoconfirmed_users has authority to do it. But when I checked below page, it has been deleted. http://wiki.services.**openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_**OpenOffice.org_Wiki:* *Autoconfirmed_usershttp://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice.org_Wiki:Autoconfirmed_users So anyone can show me how can I get authority to edit this wiki page? I need update this page and placed AOO 3.4 related test cases testing result on this wiki page. Thanks a lot. Best Regrads, Lily Zhao Hi, Lily, Please try again, now. (Be sure to log off and log back in.) There is a four-day wait for new accounts to edit, but (I think) I have bypassed that for your account (Lilyzhao). Let me know if you still can't edit. -- /tj/
Re: [AOO 3.4 Test Plan Discussion]Overview
2011/12/8, Andor E eymux2...@googlemail.com: Hi, I almost missed your mail. When I got no response to my offer, I thought there was no interest. Sorry, I was catched by some urgent things those days after I post the AOO 3.4 test plan topic to community and missed your mail.. Our testers use TestLink (http://www.teamst.org/), so the test cases currently live inside that. From the manual it seems, that one can only export to XML. Which format would you prefer? XML format sounds fine for me. Other than that, I still need to ask for permission to share the test cases. It would help, if I could demonstrate serious interest by the community to put the tests to good use. Yes, now we have had several QA vulunteers have strong passion to contribute their effort to AOO 3.4 and further AOO testing. One big challenge for us is the most test assets, especially manual test cases, are not migrated from old OO site to Apache OO site. This will bring high risk to regression testing and to the AOO quality assurance. Thanks advance if your team can share it. Greetings Andor Ertsey On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:54 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Andor, It will be much appreciated if you can share it with free license. And we can see if some volunters can contribute to the translation. Hope your response. Thanks. 2011/11/24 Andor E eymux2...@googlemail.com Hi, for our project we have a sizeable amount of manual test cases for OpenOffice.org (created by professional test engineers). These are used for internal and user tests before a release. If there's a serious interest in it, I might be able to arrange a release of these test cases under a free license (creative commons?). They are written in German, though, and would need to be translated first. Greetings Andor Ertsey On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:58 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think it's time for use to discuss and detail AOO 3.4 test plan now. Basically at current time I suggest: Hi Lily, Thanks for the proposal. 1. Leverage OpenOffice users on General Usage test For this to work we need: 1) Test cases that are clear and easy to understand 2) Test cases that can be run without requiring a lot of preparation 3) Test cases that can be run without dedicating much time. How can someone help who has only 1 hour to contribute? 4) Test cases that can be run without learning a lot of other tools or processes 2. Focus on establishing automation mechanism. Start from Build Verification Testing(BVT in short). Is the the same as a smoke test? 3. Focus on test infrastructure set up. Start from case management tool. For 3.4, place the test cases on wiki and volunteer can do general testing against. If volunteer couldn't write cases, may give the test scope he would do. For example, which component etc. And then report defects in Apache Bugzilla. Maybe we also need a guide to writing test cases? Or point to something that already exists for the project. 4. Focus on Performance Verification Testing(PVT in short) investigation, and setup benchmark PVT environment. OK. 5. Establish QA entry in AOO wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/ OK. 6. Build private build before official build is ready OK. 7. Platform will be covered - Windows XP - Win7 32bit/64bit - Where we only have a 32bit windows version, it should run against 62bit windows version. - Redhat 6 32 bit/64 bit - Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit/64 bit - Mac 10.7 - Mac 10.6.x - FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 (9.0 is suppose to release at 12/07/2011?) - OS2 For platforms, maybe we think about them like this: 1) In order to preserve the value of the OpenOffice brand among users and our reputation for high quality, we will have an official Apache binary release only on platforms that have successfully completed the QA plan that we all agree on. 2) Volunteers, based on their interests, will determine which platforms are officially supported in releases. 3) Platforms that do not have enough volunteers to complete the test plan would not have official Apache releases. Or if we had releases, they would be called experimental or some other name to indicate that they were not fully tested. 4) Of course, anyone is welcome to take our official source releases and make a build on another platform and distribute it. But these would not be official Apache releases. -Rob Welcome your comments.
Re: [AOO 3.4 Test Plan Discussion]Overview
2011/12/19, Andor E eymux2...@googlemail.com: Hi, as promised, I have asked for permission to release our test cases under a CC license. The idea was received very well and I got the official permission. Really good news! Thanks for your sharing! I will have a look at the test database next to find out, which formats I can use to release the test cases. I will make an announcement, when I have a release ready. Any input from your side? If possible, XML formart is prefered. Greetings Andor Ertsey On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Andor E eymux2...@googlemail.com wrote: I'll ask tomorrow at our regular meeting with the project lead. On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:41 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/12/8, Andor E eymux2...@googlemail.com: Hi, I almost missed your mail. When I got no response to my offer, I thought there was no interest. Sorry, I was catched by some urgent things those days after I post the AOO 3.4 test plan topic to community and missed your mail.. Our testers use TestLink (http://www.teamst.org/), so the test cases currently live inside that. From the manual it seems, that one can only export to XML. Which format would you prefer? XML format sounds fine for me. Other than that, I still need to ask for permission to share the test cases. It would help, if I could demonstrate serious interest by the community to put the tests to good use. Yes, now we have had several QA vulunteers have strong passion to contribute their effort to AOO 3.4 and further AOO testing. One big challenge for us is the most test assets, especially manual test cases, are not migrated from old OO site to Apache OO site. This will bring high risk to regression testing and to the AOO quality assurance. Thanks advance if your team can share it. Greetings Andor Ertsey On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 8:54 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Andor, It will be much appreciated if you can share it with free license. And we can see if some volunters can contribute to the translation. Hope your response. Thanks. 2011/11/24 Andor E eymux2...@googlemail.com Hi, for our project we have a sizeable amount of manual test cases for OpenOffice.org (created by professional test engineers). These are used for internal and user tests before a release. If there's a serious interest in it, I might be able to arrange a release of these test cases under a free license (creative commons?). They are written in German, though, and would need to be translated first. Greetings Andor Ertsey On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:58 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I think it's time for use to discuss and detail AOO 3.4 test plan now. Basically at current time I suggest: Hi Lily, Thanks for the proposal. 1. Leverage OpenOffice users on General Usage test For this to work we need: 1) Test cases that are clear and easy to understand 2) Test cases that can be run without requiring a lot of preparation 3) Test cases that can be run without dedicating much time. How can someone help who has only 1 hour to contribute? 4) Test cases that can be run without learning a lot of other tools or processes 2. Focus on establishing automation mechanism. Start from Build Verification Testing(BVT in short). Is the the same as a smoke test? 3. Focus on test infrastructure set up. Start from case management tool. For 3.4, place the test cases on wiki and volunteer can do general testing against. If volunteer couldn't write cases, may give the test scope he would do. For example, which component etc. And then report defects in Apache Bugzilla. Maybe we also need a guide to writing test cases? Or point to something that already exists for the project. 4. Focus on Performance Verification Testing(PVT in short) investigation, and setup benchmark PVT environment. OK. 5. Establish QA entry in AOO wiki https://cwiki.apache.org/ OK. 6. Build private build before official build is ready OK. 7. Platform will be covered - Windows XP - Win7 32bit/64bit - Where we only have a 32bit windows version, it should run against 62bit windows version. - Redhat 6 32 bit/64 bit - Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit/64 bit - Mac 10.7 - Mac 10.6.x - FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 (9.0 is suppose to release at 12/07/2011?) - OS2 For platforms, maybe we think about them like this: 1) In order to preserve the value of the OpenOffice brand among users and our reputation for high quality, we will have an official Apache binary release only on platforms that have successfully completed the QA plan that we all agree on. 2) Volunteers, based on their interests, will determine which platforms are officially supported in releases. 3) Platforms that do not have enough
AOO QA Entry and AOO 3.4 Test Cases and Test Results Entry Are Built
Hi all, Now the AOO QA entry is ready for your review:http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA I built the AOO 3.4 Test Cases Entry and AOO 3.4 Test Results Entry as well, which can be linked from above AOO QA Entry page. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Welcome your comments.
Re: 3.4 release plan
I will take the 3.4 testing part 2011/12/30, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: We've reached an important code milestone with the copyleft-free build, as well as an important infrastructure migration milestone with the successful website migration. This is all great news, considering that just 6 months ago some were telling us that both tasks were impossible, Now that we've done the impossible, the remaining work should be easy in comparison ;-) So now on to a 3.4 release, our first Apache release. I've started a wiki page to track the top-level tasks that we'll need to address before we can have a release. I've certainly missed some things, so please feel free to enhance. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Plan -Rob
Who tell me the AOO 3.4 IP cleanup replacement content and schedule
Hi all, I am doing AOO 3.4 testing plan and need know the AOO 3.4 replacement contents and when they will be done. Who can tell me about it or link me to the right page? Thanks! Best Regards, Lily
Re: Who tell me the AOO 3.4 IP cleanup replacement content and schedule
Juergen, I checked the IP cleanup page, could I assume that: For all the remove items, if don't statement with no replacement, by default those items will be replaced? If so, I need know when those repleacement will occur. Besides, I need a 32bit Linux vbox for testing as well, if you can build it it will be helpful. Thanks. 2012/1/10, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: Hi Lilly, on our IP clearance [1] page you can see the current state of the IP cleanup. And a more detailed impact can be found under the impact page [2] Rob has started to collect the open items (probably not yet 100% complete) we have to address for a release, see the release pülan [3] We are working on these items and don't have a final schedule yet. Developer snapshots from for example Ariel [4] can found and should be at least from a technical perspective close to a release candidate. Well as Ariel have pointed out he has limited bandwidth. I will try to provide newer builds this week. And will try do that continuously from now on until we have official build bots in place. @Ariel: is that ok for you? Well i need some time to prepare a 32bit Linux vbox. I hope this helps Juergen [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/IP_Clearance [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/IP_Clearance+Impact [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Plan [4] http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/ On 1/10/12 9:27 AM, xia zhao wrote: Hi all, I am doing AOO 3.4 testing plan and need know the AOO 3.4 replacement contents and when they will be done. Who can tell me about it or link me to the right page? Thanks! Best Regards, Lily
Updated Release QA Plan and AOO 3.4 Test Plan
Hi all, I updated the Release QA Plan and AOO 3.4 Test Plan for your review. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Test+Plan The offical linux build is ready on BuildBot: http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/ Please volunteer who has interesting to AOO 3.4 QA conduct your work reference below QA entery page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Quality_Assurance Welcome any comments. Best Regards, Lily
Re: Who tell me the AOO 3.4 IP cleanup replacement content and schedule
Juergen, Thanks. For testing build, we have private builds for Linux 32bits, Windows XP and Mac built this week, I will use them for testing. And look up 64bits Machine to conduct testing against offical AOO linux 64bits build. Best Regrads, Lily 2012/1/10, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: Hi Lilly, ok the page seems to require an update, ... But in general yes it's correct, all items will be replaced if not explicitly mentioned that we don't have a replacement. At the moment the only missing piece is the replacement for libneon which is under development and will be replaced with libserf. Also open is if we can and how we can bundle the dictionaries. For test builds you have to check Ariel's page at the moment. As mentioned in another email, we are working on further newer builds Juergen On 1/10/12 12:07 PM, xia zhao wrote: Juergen, I checked the IP cleanup page, could I assume that: For all the remove items, if don't statement with no replacement, by default those items will be replaced? If so, I need know when those repleacement will occur. Besides, I need a 32bit Linux vbox for testing as well, if you can build it it will be helpful. Thanks. 2012/1/10, Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com: Hi Lilly, on our IP clearance [1] page you can see the current state of the IP cleanup. And a more detailed impact can be found under the impact page [2] Rob has started to collect the open items (probably not yet 100% complete) we have to address for a release, see the release pülan [3] We are working on these items and don't have a final schedule yet. Developer snapshots from for example Ariel [4] can found and should be at least from a technical perspective close to a release candidate. Well as Ariel have pointed out he has limited bandwidth. I will try to provide newer builds this week. And will try do that continuously from now on until we have official build bots in place. @Ariel: is that ok for you? Well i need some time to prepare a 32bit Linux vbox. I hope this helps Juergen [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/IP_Clearance [2] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/IP_Clearance+Impact [3] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Plan [4] http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/ On 1/10/12 9:27 AM, xia zhao wrote: Hi all, I am doing AOO 3.4 testing plan and need know the AOO 3.4 replacement contents and when they will be done. Who can tell me about it or link me to the right page? Thanks! Best Regards, Lily
Re: Updated Release QA Plan and AOO 3.4 Test Plan
Nakata, See my comments. 2012/1/11, Maho NAKATA m...@apache.org: Hi Just a comment, can we use testtools for QA? If we can use testtools for regression testing, it will be much helpful. But the problem is not only it can't run now, I even run VCL testtools before but seems the testing reports are not easy to analyse. Now we have QA volunteer working on Java lib to automate test cases, first begin from build verification test. Also someone working on smoke test investigation to resume smoke test at API level when building build. Unfortunately, tar balls for VCL testtool environment was gone, though, maybe I should provide them again. Cool, if you can do it it will benefit all of us. Is CVS still alive? So far as I know, CVS is gone. Thanks, Nakata Maho From: Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Updated Release QA Plan and AOO 3.4 Test Plan Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 09:07:02 +0100 Hi, On 11.01.2012 08:50, xia zhao wrote: Hi all, I updated the Release QA Plan and AOO 3.4 Test Plan for your review. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Test+Plan I have made an minor update to these wiki pages as for Windows 64 bit is not available/supported. Best regards, Oliver.
Xia Zhao/China/IBM is out of the office.
I will be out of the office starting 2012-01-22 and will not return until 2012-01-29. I will out of office from 1/22~1/28 for Chinese Spring Festival Holiday, will check notes sometimes and response you for urgent things.
Re: Proposal for AOO test tool
I give 1+ for test tools usage for AOO 4.0 based on below points: 1. For community product, we don't know if same resoruce will be there for next release. 2. We sould follow the strategy that automtic more and more test cases, but for these automated test cases, as one experienced QA who have worked on this area for nearly 10 years, many automatic test cases comes from manual test cases, that is, bettter structuring the cases first and selecting some to automatic, considering that not all of cases can be automaticed. 3. Form quality view, it's better have one tool to track QA effort. But one easy and simple to maintance testing tool should be proposed. Besides, Rob's transfering bugzilla issues to test cases is one good idea. 2012/2/14 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Ji Yan yanji...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Recently, I'm thinking about how testing work should be done and what the procedure should followed under Apache OO structure. Before OO goes into ASF, testing work was controlled by QUASTe and manual test cases stored in TCM but both tools were disconnected once Oracle donated OO to Apache. Now, it's time for us to think about how can we move on for testing. While within AOO 3.4, we store the manual scripts in wiki page, it's good place at this time, but should not be permanent. As it's hard to tell test status and collect testing data, also it has no connection with automation test tool. I wonder if Bugzilla would be better than the wiki? We could create a product in BZ for all test cases, with components under that for different test areas, like performance test, smoke test, detailed test, etc. One BZ issue per test case. For each test pass, we simply reset each test case/issue back to New state. We then test each issue. If the test case passes, then we mark the BZ issue as closed. If the test case fails, then we already have a BZ issue for the developers. Pro: Makes it very easy to make new test cases from existing BZ issues, or to make BZ issues from testcases. Con: Reporting not so good. Does not handle doing multiple test passes in parallel. For example, if we wanted to test AOO 4.0 in parallel with a maintenance AOO 3.4.1 release. After review some tools, I find the Test Link[1], maybe the proper tool for us to manage testing work. If anyone has any suggestion on other tools, please let me know. The target is to customize and deploy it to OO website. I'll move forward with this tool with no objection [1] http://testlink.sourceforge.net/docs/testLink.php -- I tried their demo site. It was very slow. Does anyone have experience with Test Link? The above link should be only one sample. The performance depends on the where to host it and the network speed. I care more about even TestLink is one good tool to community to use, is it possible ASF host it? -Rob Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji
Re: Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice 3.4?
Jean, Please count me. I'd like to take the chart part, draw and impress improvement part. Thanks. Best Regards, Lily Zhao 2012/2/15 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Is anyone interested in working on a Getting Started with Apache OpenOffice 3.4 book and/or user guides for Writer or other components? Release notes are available [1], though possibly incomplete, and the software (developers' builds) is working, so it's probably not a waste of time to start updating books now. Some screenshots will have to wait, because the program installs as ooo-dev, but most screenshots don't show the program name so that's not a big problem. I suggest using as the starting point the OOo3.3 book -- or parts of the LO book if new features are also in there and already written about. (This means keeping the CC-BY/GPL license, not applying the Apache license.) [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Release+Notes --Jean
Who can take a look for issue bug 118833?
Hi all, I am reviewing all of the critical issues raised in Bugzilla and find one about database login. Issue *bug 118833*https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118833 is about desktop freeze when database login on Linux and this one can be taken as AOO 3.4 bloker from my view, of course, you can have different opition. I want to know who can take a look on this defect? Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Lily Zhao
Re: [BUG]AOO in Asia Language word's counts calculate is wrong
No detail test case for AOO 3.4, all the test cases are wroten based on component,feature and give some short description. For this scenario, it is about Asian languages words count, the words count feature is one feature of Writer, so you may add test case as below: Component: Writer Feature: Word Count Test Case: This is to test the word counts in Asian langauge. Launch Writer and input some Asian languages words, select Tools-Word Count to verify if the result is correct. Lily Best Regards, 2012/2/21 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 01.02.20 04:49am, Andrea Pescetti said: On 11/02/2012 L'oiseau de mer wrote: OK, I marked https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=17964 as FIXED as discussed here, but please add a testcase to http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ so that we can still test it works during QA tests. It's a great idea and I would like to, but how to write a testcase? Is there any guide? -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
Sample Files Collection for AOO testing
Hi all, Recently I am working on sample files collection and category. These sample files would be used for AOO 3.4 and further AOO release testing. These sample files are major for compatibility, which covers the interoperabilty with MS office 2003, MS office 2007/2010 and previous OpenOffice release. Now I have had thousands of MS Office sample files and still need more, especially old OO documents. If you have some sample files, not confiditenal, can share with you, would you like send it back me by mail: lilyzh...@gmail.com? Many thanks! Sorry I couldn't find one good place to manage these sample files, or anyone have idea where we can centralize these sample files for community QA volunteers testing? Best Regards, Lily Zhao
Re: Suggest to disable Edit File button on toolbar in some cases
Li Feng, I guess your step 2 means Edit File on toolbar. Also I don't understand Disable you talked about here? Do you means Grey that button? Just like when user create one calc document? This button on toolbar is used to give user flexiability to edit or read-only the document though no password to proctect this document. Disabling it may hurt the user flexiability, considering the scenario that when one user do some modification and save and then he just want to view this document. In this case, he can disable the edit function by clicking Edit File on toolbar in case during his navigation he may give some mistype input. This is just my thoughts, this is one user experience issue and everyones's feedback. Best Regards, Lily 2012/2/22 lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com Hi all, Recently, I try to test File Sharing Password and Edit File, that is edit control of security. But I found “Edit File” button on toolbar is enable nearly all the time, beside new document. Therefore, User may click more than one time, Then file will switch from read-only to normal frequently. And this will raise many unnecessary scenarios. I already open 2 defects about this . i118937,i118930. From the point of friendly, there will be more. I suggest to simplify. For example, Enable “Edit File” button only when open file with File Sharing Password. Disable it after input edit password. Thanks!
Re: Sample Files Collection for AOO testing
Rob, I totally agree with you fabout inding one place to manage the test documents. For the samle files catalog, I like your idea about category them via directory structure, currently I do this way on my local. So the next action is find one Apache server. I can upload what I have to the server and place one guide on QA wiki page to show how to structure those testing files. Best Regards, Lily 2012/2/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:40 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I am working on sample files collection and category. These sample files would be used for AOO 3.4 and further AOO release testing. These sample files are major for compatibility, which covers the interoperabilty with MS office 2003, MS office 2007/2010 and previous OpenOffice release. Now I have had thousands of MS Office sample files and still need more, especially old OO documents. If you have some sample files, not confiditenal, can share with you, would you like send it back me by mail: lilyzh...@gmail.com? Many thanks! Sorry I couldn't find one good place to manage these sample files, or anyone have idea where we can centralize these sample files for community QA volunteers testing? We could find a place in our subversion repository for test documents. But even more useful would be a collection of test files with metadata that explains what they are and how to test them. For example: foo.odt is a test file, but then also have foo.txt of foo.xml that has metadata such as: 1) What application write out the file 2) What is special about the file, what is it showing? A sample encrypted document? An invalid file to see how AOO handles errors? 3) How to test the file? If we had a set up like that, then we could add some search support, like: show me all test documents that were created in OOo 3.3/Mac Instead of text files, you could also do thisc: /test-documents /test-documents/OOo-31 /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac/encryption /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac/encryption/blowfish.odt Also, it is better if people contribute the test files to an Apache server, either to the mailing list, subversion or Bugzilla. If they do that, then they are putting the files under the Apache license. If they just send them to you personally, they have not given permission for the project to use the files. Also, by having them send the test files to Apache, the privacy implications are clearer. In any case, I like your idea. But I'd recommend that we first first agree on how we can receive, store and catalog the files. One we understand that, then it will be easier to ask users to send us their files. -Rob Best Regards, Lily Zhao
Public Query For Bugs in BugZilla
Hi all, In order to tracking the AOO 3.4 bug status in Bugzilla, I created and public some queries to canconfirm team, you may review: *All340Created*: For defects created against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340Fixed*: For fixed defects against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340Opening*: For defects remain opening against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340CriticalCreate*d: For defects with severity critical, blocker created against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340CriticalFixed:* For fixed defects with severity critical, blocker against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340CriticalOpening:* For critical and blocker defects remain opening against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta Besides above queries, I also create the ones for all defects. The question for me is: Now for AOO 3.4 development, which steam we are doing development? Only AOO340-dev? I need know it to decide against which version I should report bug. Best Regards, Lily
Re: Sample Files Collection for AOO testing
Rob, About 1500 sample files, 1G in draft. Lily 2012/2/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, I totally agree with you fabout inding one place to manage the test documents. For the samle files catalog, I like your idea about category them via directory structure, currently I do this way on my local. So the next action is find one Apache server. I can upload what I have to the server and place one guide on QA wiki page to show how to structure those testing files. What is the total size of the document collection you have now? How many files and how many total megabytes? Best Regards, Lily 2012/2/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:40 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I am working on sample files collection and category. These sample files would be used for AOO 3.4 and further AOO release testing. These sample files are major for compatibility, which covers the interoperabilty with MS office 2003, MS office 2007/2010 and previous OpenOffice release. Now I have had thousands of MS Office sample files and still need more, especially old OO documents. If you have some sample files, not confiditenal, can share with you, would you like send it back me by mail: lilyzh...@gmail.com? Many thanks! Sorry I couldn't find one good place to manage these sample files, or anyone have idea where we can centralize these sample files for community QA volunteers testing? We could find a place in our subversion repository for test documents. But even more useful would be a collection of test files with metadata that explains what they are and how to test them. For example: foo.odt is a test file, but then also have foo.txt of foo.xml that has metadata such as: 1) What application write out the file 2) What is special about the file, what is it showing? A sample encrypted document? An invalid file to see how AOO handles errors? 3) How to test the file? If we had a set up like that, then we could add some search support, like: show me all test documents that were created in OOo 3.3/Mac Instead of text files, you could also do thisc: /test-documents /test-documents/OOo-31 /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac/encryption /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac/encryption/blowfish.odt Also, it is better if people contribute the test files to an Apache server, either to the mailing list, subversion or Bugzilla. If they do that, then they are putting the files under the Apache license. If they just send them to you personally, they have not given permission for the project to use the files. Also, by having them send the test files to Apache, the privacy implications are clearer. In any case, I like your idea. But I'd recommend that we first first agree on how we can receive, store and catalog the files. One we understand that, then it will be easier to ask users to send us their files. -Rob Best Regards, Lily Zhao
Re: [BUG]AOO in Asia Language word's counts calculate is wrong
Currently for AOO 3.4, we are using Wiki pages to manage test cases and test results: Here is the QA main page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA From this page, you can navigate to test cases page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ And place your test result here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Now dev snap shot build is used for testing, you can get the build here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Best Regards, Lily 2012/2/23 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw I see. But where do I build this test case? In the source tree? On 2012/02/21 23:08, xia zhao said: No detail test case for AOO 3.4, all the test cases are wroten based on component,feature and give some short description. For this scenario, it is about Asian languages words count, the words count feature is one feature of Writer, so you may add test case as below: Component: Writer Feature: Word Count Test Case: This is to test the word counts in Asian langauge. Launch Writer and input some Asian languages words, select Tools-Word Count to verify if the result is correct. -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012/2/22(2012/2/15~2012/2/22)
Hello everyone! This is Lily (Xia Zhao) in Beijing. I've been working on QA for AOO 3.4. I will give a weekly report on the quality of the 3.4 Apache OpenOffice. Not everyone watches 100% of BZ notifications. A report is a good way to know the status. *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status: *Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan 55% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 70% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/2/22 (2012/2/15 - 2012/2/22): *Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. 1240836,1240872,1243392 Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Mac 10.6.8, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1 Test Cases Executed: 6 modules of IP clearance ooo_crystal_images-1.tar.gz ooo_oxygen_images-2009-06-17 3rd party/external library javamail 3rd party/external library gdk-pixbuf libneon removement testing berkeleydb 5 function areas of General testing: Installer (Clean/Upgrade) Security Toolbar Chart (still 60% left) Writer Envelope *Defects Summary: *So far 282 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0 Among them, 44 critical defects raised and 23 ones remain opening now. 21 defects raised in this week,and 4 defects closed. So far based on my observation and my testing, no much special platform problems. Though some bugs are makred with specifical platform but I need double check if it is due to reporter only has that platform build or it did only reproduced on given platform. Currently most bugs about core functions, undo/redo is one weak area, also the stability is one potential problem. Next week we plan do more interoperability testing and more stability general testing, suppose more defects may be raised. *Risk: *The high risk for AOO 3.4 is during the migration from OO to AOO, many test cases lost and no one large automation suite can be used for regression testing now. So I did appreciate everyone's contribution to QA works. If you have interesting in QA work and decide to contribute to it, please go to AOO 3.4 main page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. Get dev build from: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Write your case by edit this page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ And place your result: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Or you may just do general testing based on your usage without test cases or testing result and just raise defects in Bugzilla directly: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Any contribution is welcome and can contribute to this project's success! ThanksBest Regrads, Lily
Re: Sample Files Collection for AOO testing
Jurgen, I don't have accurate number but by draft sizing, and considering more sample files will be upload, giving 5G is ok. Best Regards, Lily Zhao 2012/2/22 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 2/22/12 6:40 AM, xia zhao wrote: Hi all, Recently I am working on sample files collection and category. These sample files would be used for AOO 3.4 and further AOO release testing. These sample files are major for compatibility, which covers the interoperabilty with MS office 2003, MS office 2007/2010 and previous OpenOffice release. Now I have had thousands of MS Office sample files and still need more, especially old OO documents. If you have some sample files, not confiditenal, can share with you, would you like send it back me by mail: lilyzh...@gmail.com? Many thanks! Sorry I couldn't find one good place to manage these sample files, or anyone have idea where we can centralize these sample files for community QA volunteers testing? I think it is a good idea to make them available for all community members and QA volunteers. Can you tell us more about the size of your current document collection. That would help to find a proper place for it. Thanks for bringing this up and sharing the documents. Having real life test documents is always a good thing. Juergen
Re: Sample Files Collection for AOO testing
Rob, The directory structure like this: \Support of Office 2002 \Support of Office 2003\MS Powerpoint 2003 \Support of Office 2003\MS Powerpoint 2003\Bullet I need recatalog these sample files and then will send the list to ooo-dev. Most of these sample files are our original test files, but belong to IBM asserts. Besides some sample files in real world are IBM files. Then third-party files. We can contribute the original testing sample files first with legal approval and then double check with legal if we can contribute IBM files and 3rd party files for coumunity testing. Best Regards, Lily Above is one sample, I can send them special with given structure as patch one by one. 2012/2/23 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:22 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, About 1500 sample files, 1G in draft. OK. Much too large to send as a patch to the list or attach to a BZ issue. We cause problems with subversion if we commit too much at one time. We need to break it into smaller chunks. Maybe start with a directory listing and send the listing to ooo-dev. It would be good to understand the scope of the documents and the directory structure. Then we could work with smaller patches, maybe at the sub-tree level, so they are no more than 200 MB for each patch. Also, where did these come from? Are these all your original files? IBM files? 3rd party files? We need to understand what permissions we have to use these files. -Rob Lily 2012/2/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:53 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, I totally agree with you fabout inding one place to manage the test documents. For the samle files catalog, I like your idea about category them via directory structure, currently I do this way on my local. So the next action is find one Apache server. I can upload what I have to the server and place one guide on QA wiki page to show how to structure those testing files. What is the total size of the document collection you have now? How many files and how many total megabytes? Best Regards, Lily 2012/2/22 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:40 AM, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Recently I am working on sample files collection and category. These sample files would be used for AOO 3.4 and further AOO release testing. These sample files are major for compatibility, which covers the interoperabilty with MS office 2003, MS office 2007/2010 and previous OpenOffice release. Now I have had thousands of MS Office sample files and still need more, especially old OO documents. If you have some sample files, not confiditenal, can share with you, would you like send it back me by mail: lilyzh...@gmail.com? Many thanks! Sorry I couldn't find one good place to manage these sample files, or anyone have idea where we can centralize these sample files for community QA volunteers testing? We could find a place in our subversion repository for test documents. But even more useful would be a collection of test files with metadata that explains what they are and how to test them. For example: foo.odt is a test file, but then also have foo.txt of foo.xml that has metadata such as: 1) What application write out the file 2) What is special about the file, what is it showing? A sample encrypted document? An invalid file to see how AOO handles errors? 3) How to test the file? If we had a set up like that, then we could add some search support, like: show me all test documents that were created in OOo 3.3/Mac Instead of text files, you could also do thisc: /test-documents /test-documents/OOo-31 /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac/encryption /test-docuements/OOo31/Mac/encryption/blowfish.odt Also, it is better if people contribute the test files to an Apache server, either to the mailing list, subversion or Bugzilla. If they do that, then they are putting the files under the Apache license. If they just send them to you personally, they have not given permission for the project to use the files. Also, by having them send the test files to Apache, the privacy implications are clearer. In any case, I like your idea. But I'd recommend that we first first agree on how we can receive, store and catalog the files. One we understand that, then it will be easier to ask users to send us their files. -Rob Best Regards, Lily Zhao
Re: [BUG]AOO in Asia Language word's counts calculate is wrong
You can write the test result if you like. Or I can do it, I also tested the word counts fucntion for Asian languages. Lily 2012/2/24 imacat ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw On 2012/02/23 10:05, xia zhao said: From this page, you can navigate to test cases page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ Done. Thank you. And place your test result here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Should I write the test result myself? -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc Woman's Voice News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ Apache OpenOffice http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
Re: Public Query For Bugs in BugZilla
Jurgen, Currently there are about 170 bugs taged with 3.4beta or 3.4m0 version. It should have someway to replace the vesion to AOO-dev for these bugs in batch. Do you even do it? I may need authority to do it in Bugzilla. Lily 2012/2/23 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 2/22/12 5:17 PM, xia zhao wrote: Hi all, In order to tracking the AOO 3.4 bug status in Bugzilla, I created and public some queries to canconfirm team, you may review: *All340Created*: For defects created against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340Fixed*: For fixed defects against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340Opening*: For defects remain opening against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340CriticalCreate*d: For defects with severity critical, blocker created against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340CriticalFixed:* For fixed defects with severity critical, blocker against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta *All340CriticalOpening:* For critical and blocker defects remain opening against version AOO340-dev, OOO340m0, OOo 3.4 Beta Besides above queries, I also create the ones for all defects. Thanks Lily for setting up this queries, I think they will be very helpful The question for me is: Now for AOO 3.4 development, which steam we are doing development? Only AOO340-dev? I need know it to decide against which version I should report bug. For now I would suggest that we report bugs against AOO340-dev and we should use the new introduced flag 3.4_release_blocker. Bugs can be proposed as showstopper by setting this flag to ? and starting a discussion on the mailing list. Based on the discussion we will decide if it becomes a real showstopper + or not -. The release manager in the end will decide it when we don't find consensus. I with the hat (currently) of the release manager will not decide anything without listening to all of you. In the future we should try to cleanup the bugtracker more and more. I would remove components to simply reduce the number and make it easier to report bugs. The versions should be cleaned up. Herbert mentioned that future versions of bugzilla will allow to deprecate versions. Sometimes I wish we could start with fresh clean bugzilla ;-) Juergen Juergen
Re: Plan to deliver the GUI test Java library on the next release
Yes, great to see automation testing more forward here. Zhe, would you like send community the summary of your automation work? What you have done and what your plan? I know some contents have been placed on wiki, but one weekly report to ooo-dev list is much appreciated. Lily 2012/2/24 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 2/24/12 6:20 AM, Zhe Liu wrote: 在 2012年2月24日 上午10:37，Ma Yong Linmayo...@gmail.com 写道： I think what was asked is if we are just get a group of star basic test cases translated to java. It would be the same in terms of testing. We can do that, but I think it's more meaningful to cover the GUI testing for new functions in future, since the existing function has been very stable. So besides java developer may benefit from this, anything else? The library will wrap all complex things and aims to make learning curve enough short for both programmer and non-programmer. In addition, localization developers may benefit from it to locate some UI. I'm not sure and need to investigate further. the biggest advantage to move forward with something new here is that it becomes maintained, that somebody knows the details and how it works, can explain it, and ideally we will get documentation that help others to get started as well. Thanks for driving this forward Juergen Ma Yong Lin mayo...@apache.org 在 2012-2-23，9:38，Zhe Liualiu...@gmail.com 写道： 2012/2/23 FR web forumooofo...@free.fr: Hello, cut As mentioned before, I plan to replace VCL TestTool with a Java library for GUI testing. cut Do you think that a translation in other languages could improve its usefulness? Sorry. I didn't catch you. You mean translate that wiki or the tool in other languages? Thank for your suggestion. -- Best Regards From aliu...@gmail.com The previous discussion is here. http://markmail.org/thread/nz4mgwk3k3b3rb2w#query:+page:1+mid:aalron753ul3rb5f+state:res
Is there any Bugzilla admin who can help setup normal group to view public queryies
I created several queries for AOO 3.4 and hope anybody can view these queries and run the results. But when I tried to share my search result(query) to group, I only can find canconfirm, qa-users,canedit groups. People who are not in these groups can't view these queries. Can any Bugzilla admin can help setup one normal group, I means the ones who can create bug in Bugzilla, to view these public queries? Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Lily
Propose AOO 3.4 Release blockers
Hi all, As some of you may have awaren, I am Lily in Beijing and be working as QA for AOO 3.4 release. Based on the our testing against AOO 3.4 and the issues review in Bugzilla, I think it's time for us to propose AOO 3.4 release blcoker now. Till today 291 bugs reported against AOO 3.4 dev, AOO 3.4beta and AOO 3.4m0. Among of them,44 critical bugs and 21 ones remain opening. I check these 21 ones and propose below as AOO 3.4 release blockers: *Bug 118823* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118823 - Cannot start the installed OOo-Dev_OOO340m1_Win_x86_install_de.exe on Win7 Propose Reason: This bug fail the AOO 3.4 installation on Win7 and must be fixed before ship. Besides, it is AOO 3.4 regression. *Bug 118881* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 - Animation not rendering properly in Impress (Build OOo340m1 for Windows) Propose Reason: Animiation for text is very common senario for Impress users and this function fail will dispoint lots of Impress users. Also, this is AOO 3.4 regression issue. *Bug 118846* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118846 - ODBC connection crash AOO Propose Reason: Common scenario, stablity issue. AOO 3.4 regression. *Bug 118914* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118914 - Upgrade package missing Propose Reason: This issue will cause AOO 3.4 fail to upgrade on Linux. AOO 3.4 regression as well. Besides, I propose 118979 and 118895 as 3.4 blocker candidates. One is for on-help and one is for localization, it depends on which documentation and localization quality we agree to publish AOO 3.4. *Bug 118979* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118979 - No help for color sheet function *Bug 118895* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118895 - aoo3.4 r1240836: some contextmenu entries are not localized Welcome your comments. Best Regards, Lily
AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/2/29 (2012/2/23 - 2012/2/29):
*AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status:* Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan 80% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 80% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/2/29 (2012/2/23 - 2012/2/29):* Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. 1291124,1293550 Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Mac 10.6.8, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1 *Test Cases Executed:* *4 modules of IP clearance* - replace svg (LGPL) support - 3rd party/external library Core - report builder extension related - libneon removement testing *7 function areas of General testing:* - Interoperability testing with MS office in Impress animation, shape, table, pictures,chart etc - Interoperability testing with MS office in Writer in numbering and bullet, table, shape, Table of content,header/footer etc - Interoperability testing with MS office in Calc in chart, cell style - Calc filter, - Spell check - Vector picture testing - Chart (still 20% left) *Defects Summary:* So far 311 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0 Among them, 45 critical defects raised and 21 ones remain opening now. 29 defects raised in this week,and 4 defects closed. Based on previous testing and my observation so far, the animation imteroperability is one weak area, especially for text animation. Undo/redo is also week area. Besides, seems the quality on Windows is weak than that on inux. But the stability can give us much confidience, the unproduced crash is less occur against latest AOO 3.4 build though we did have some reproducable crash in bug pool. *Risk:* The high risk for AOO 3.4 is during the migration from OO to AOO, many test cases lost and no one large automation suite can be used for regression testing now. So again I appreciate and thakns for everyone's contribution to QA works. If you have interesting in QA work and decide to contribute to it, please go to AOO 3.4 main page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. Get dev build from: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Write your case by edit this page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ And place your result: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Or you may just do general testing based on your usage without test cases or testing result and just raise defects in Bugzilla directly: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Any contribution is welcome and can contribute to this project's success! Besides, I created entry for project reporting on below wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting Uner it, you can get detail AOO 3.4 QA weekly status reports from this page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+QA+Status+Report Best Regards, Lily
Re: Success installing on Mac OS X Lion
Jean, I saw your did excellent QA works against AOO 3.4! Well done and much appreciated for that. I am also working as QA for AOO 3.4, in order to tracking AOO 3.4 QA works to give us, and the community, one summary that which page we are, I created AOO 3.4 QA related wikis as below: AOO 3.4 QA main page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA AOO 3.4 Test Case page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ AOO 3.4 Test Result page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults AOO 3.4 QA Status Weekly Report: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+QA+Status+Report Could you add your test scenarios in test case page and update your result in test result page? Thanks a lot! Best Regards, Lily 2012/3/1 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com This Mac has OS X Lion 10.7.3 installed. It has LO3.4 and LO3.5 installed on it, but no legacy version of OOo. Installation proceeded with no problem, and the program appears to work. I have found one problem so far, when working with templates. I'll write that up in a separate thread. --Jean
AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012/3/12(2012/3/1~2012/3/12)
Hi all, From this week, I will change the QA status report delivering date from Wednesday to each Monday. *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status: *Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan 100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 90% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/2/29 (2012/3/1 - 2012/3/12): *Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. r1296433http://people.apache.org/~orw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1296433/win32OOo_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US_de_fr_it_es_ja_pt-BR_zh-CN_zh-TW_nl_hu_fi_ru.exe Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Mac Lionn, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1, Windows 7 Test Cases Executed: IP Clearance: libneon replacement issue tracking General testing: Chart OLE Math formula Interoperability automaiton testing environment setup and running Some problems found in interoperability automation running, will fix the two days. In next week, will run interoperability testing automtically against about 5000 MS Office sample files and previous OOO sample files. *Defects Summary*: So far 332 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0 Among them, 49 critical defects raised and 22 ones remain opening now. 6 reamining release blockers: 119011 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119011 blo P3 All ooo-issues@incubator.apache... CONF --- formulas are lost by DOCX import filter https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119011 118895https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118895 cri P3 All s...@openoffice.org CONF --- aoo3.4 r1240836: some contextmenu entries are not localized https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118895 118976https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118976 cri P3 All iss...@openoffice.org CONF --- Old extensions page needs to redirect to new because extensions manager coded to use old extensions page https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118976 119031https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119031 cri P3 Linu h...@apache.org ACCE --- Find Replace is always case-sensitve https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119031 119036https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119036 cri P3 Mac orwittm...@googlemail.com CONF --- WebDAV https has problems to browse a folder https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119036 118537 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118537 blo P5 Wind spreadsh...@openoffice.org UNCO --- When there are a large number of Charts in a spreadsheet a number of charts just display OLE https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118537 23 defects raised in this week,and 18 defects closed. Based on previous testing and my observation so far, the stability sounds ok, so does basic functions. Next week more interoperability automation testing will be done. Also some performance testing will be done as well. I am very happy to see lots of QA works are done the three past weeks and continuous going, no matter some are communicated by community or by bugzilla. This will help to make the RC build available to us timely. *Risk: *The high risk for AOO 3.4 is during the migration from OO to AOO, many test cases lost and no one large automation suite can be used for regression testing now. So again I appreciate and thakns for everyone's contribution to QA works. If you have interesting in QA work and decide to contribute to it, please go to AOO 3.4 main page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. Get dev build from: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Write your case by edit this page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ And place your result: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Or you may just do general testing based on your usage without test cases or testing result and just raise defects in Bugzilla directly: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Any contribution is welcome and can contribute to this project's success! Besides, I created entry for project reporting on below wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting Uner it, you can get detail AOO 3.4 QA weekly status reports from this page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+QA+Status+Report Best Regards, Lily
Re: [RELEASE]: Bug 118914 - Upgrade package missing
Hi Ariel, I reported that problem, yes, the upgrade package is used for old OOo to upgrade linux package. Now it is missing in AOO 3.4 linux package. My concerns are: 1. AOO 3.4 is the first release for AOO project, we can statement it, but I don't think OOo users would buy in it. As one old OOo user, I prefer upgrade to AOO 3.4 directly. 2. Even we say AOO 3.4 i the first release, the easy upgrade mechanism should be provided now for further AOO release. There is several linux packages, now I can upgrade from OOo 3.3.0 to AOO 3.4 directly by upgrade package one by one. With upgrade shell scripts offered in old OOo, I can upgrade my linux package easily. And I hope this issue can be resolved in AOO 3.4. Thanks. Lily 2012/3/9 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org HI Jürgen, On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 05:47:01PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I have to confess that I don't have any clue what to do with this issue [1]. We have a target in instset_native/util to build a updatepack but it breaks on my Linux system when it tries to build a Germany language pack. But I have no language selected and it should build en-US only. Do we really have problems with an upgrade on Linux systems? I tend to mark it as non critical. Any opinions? [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118914 I'm not sure what the original reporter is talking about. In previous OO release, for example, OO 3.3, this is update package under root package. seems to point to the update shell script. If so, this is trunk/main/setup_native/scripts/update.sh delivered as update to the solver. But I couldn't find any line on scp2 including this shell script in the install set. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: [RELEASE] Bug 118537 When there are a large number of Charts in a spreadsheet a number of charts just display OLE
Lei, +1, I totally agree with you. Lily 2012/3/9 Lei Wang lei.wang.l...@gmail.com Hi, From my point of view, Issue 118537, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118537 is not a release blocker. It is not a crash, regression, other serious issue. Now I can not get the sample file because of the file can not be downloaded in the specified URL. So I can not investigate it. Best regards, Wang Lei
Re: [RELEASE]: promote ' Bug 119047 ' as stopper for AOO3.4
Li Feng, I don't think this bug is so critical to block release ship. It only impact special platform user against special function. Give -1. Lily 2012/3/14 lifeng wang phoenix.wan...@gmail.com Hi, all I propose Bug 119047 as AOO 3.4 release blocker. Mac user can't customize bullet from Clip art gallery . scenario: Clip art list can't be provided to MAC user (on Customize dialog for bullets and numbering) https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119047 Best regards, Phoenix
Re: Interested in helping with testing.
Tenille, Welcome help on testing! Currently we are focusing on AOO 3.4 general testing, IP clearance testing have been done last week. If it is ok, I'd like you take the Math component to do general usage testing, also some interoperability testing with previous OOo version and MS Office. You may visit below link to give AOO 3.4 QA overview. http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA Also here to get the QA progress: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+QA+Status+Report Please download the latest dev snapshot build to do testing: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Don't hesitate to let me know if any comments. Thanks Best Regards, Lily 2012/3/15 Tenille Brathwaite tenille_brathwa...@hotmail.com My name is Tenille Brathwaite, and my major is in software engineering. One of my assignments this semester is to assist with an open source testing project and I was wondering if there are still opportunities available to get involved in testing the Apache OpenOffice software, and what areas I could provide assistance in. Tenille Brathwaite.
Re: Query re possible Release blocker
2012/3/14 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:53:11 + Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:36:44 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Ross Gardler rgard...@opendirective.com wrote: I've not experienced this in about a month of reasonably heavy usage. Is there a sure-fire way to trigger the failure? I'd be happy to try it. It looks like Lily is testing with Windows 7 as well. I wonder whether the fact that the upgrade server is down could be currently masking the issue? It regularly failed when the old OOo Upgrade server refused to make a connection, which may have been a factor. I need to stress that the problem only arose after Win7 SP1 was installed; the presence of IE9 on Win7 is sufficient to cause the problem. I'm just trying to find a plausible cause that fits the observed facts: 1) Bug reported before with Windows 7 SP1 and IE9 2) Bug goes away when you disable OOo's automatic updates 2) But bug is not observed in current testing, not in Lily's testing with Windows 7, or with Ross's use. 3) Update server was once working, but is not working now So two plausible theories that are worth testing: A) Bug actually exists in AOO today, but no one is testing with SP1 and IE 9 installed We tested AOO 3.4 latest dev snap shot build Rev 1299571 with Windows 7 SP1 with IE 9 installed, but couldn't reproduce it. Lily B) Bug actually exists in AOO today, but is masked by the non-availability of the update service We can never prove the absence of a bug, but it is probably worth testing to make sure that neither A nor B lead to a reproducible bug. -Rob -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Propose release blocker: Bug 119069 - The Get more templates for OpenOffice.org still link to Oracle site with Oracle mark
Hi all, The links Get more templates for OpenOffice.org and Add new features to OpenOffice.org on currently AOO 3.4 latest dev snapshot full build still linked to old OOO pages which with Oracle trademark at bottom. Maybe there are still other links have the similar problem and I keep searching. These issues should be clean before we ship one RC build or at list we ship zoo 3.4. I remember we have had this kind of discussion in mail and who is working on these dev repository sites? Lily
Re: Files replaced by hashes, let's face it
2012/3/13 eric b eric.bach...@free.fr Le 12 mars 12 à 22:47, Hagar Delest a écrit : Hi All, Hi, We have had a recent discussion in the forum (after another case) about the problem where files are replaced with only hashes, leading to serious data loss. Is there any plan to handle it or at least to double check the save process? Currently, not that I know. For the record: usually after a power loss, the opened file is wrecked and no data is recoverable. In very rare cases (I've seen it twice IIRC), user is able to recover the last version from the temporary files. The discussion: http://user.services.**openoffice.org/en/forum/** viewtopic.php?f=6t=17677http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=17677 The post where I've listed more than 90 similar reports in forums: http://user.services.**openoffice.org/en/forum/** viewtopic.php?f=6t=17677#**p81363http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6t=17677#p81363 The issue I'd filed: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/** show_bug.cgi?id=107847https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107847 To be honest, I had a lot of similar issues with (old versions of) Windows + MS Office, exactly the same way, long time ago. I even remeber I lost a lof of work myself and I never complained to Microsoft, who does not care (imho). This isssue looks like a true issue, but a one extremely difficult to reproduce. There are really a lot of possible reasons to turn something readable into , like a simple 1 bit offset somewhere in the datas, or some unneeded address incrementation in some loop, including bad things with the file system (somewhere in sal or more complicated). I think you understand things are awfully complicated to track. Until we find a track, the most important is to collect as much of datas as possible. There is certainly one common denominator for a big part of those issues imho, but the area of investigations is enormous. Of course, I don't have a solution, and only common work could help. To make progress, we could define a strategy when one new issue is detected, e.g. : - create a meta-issue (I'll let other people propose a name) - propose a process to collect datas, and what do if ever such issue occurs (like not power off the computer, or provide us a previous version of the damaged document if possible .. and so on) - explain the users the difficulty to reproduce, and the analyze needs more information than other issues, so we need to collect a lot before to imagine a root and solve it - cross the issues with other OpenOffice.org derivatives could help : I'll ask on our lists, to know whether the problem occured with OOo4Kids too. - (please propose other ideas) I agree collecting datas is one good way, is there any log when recovery fail or data lost? Meanwhile, can someone do save, recovery logic analysis? Such as cold walkthrough etc? From QA view, I will add this scenario, power lost, long run etc to AOO 3.4 scope to see if something can catch. Lily NB: not sure if LibO has inherited this problem too but I guess so according to a quick Google search: http://www.mail-archive.com/** libreoffice-bugs@lists.**freedesktop.org/msg19017.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org/msg19017.html I think you should keep an eye on this side, but I bet this is the case too. Of course the bug is not reproducible, it happens on several OS, with different versions but has appeared clearly end of 2008. More the date is precise, more it will help : there is probably some history somewhere, and a list of cws introduced in meantime could help to isolate a good candidate for the (possible) bug or regression. Please remember that this bug is very detrimental to the product reputation, leading to a loss of confidence in the code. Yes, but we should not exagerate either. Know data loss is possible, is true. This is a serious, but very seldom issue : we can create, use files without lose something most of the time. I'd even bet people lose more often their datas on windows because of viruses, trojan, whatever than with OOo. Last but not least the code is open, what is something really good in this case. Especially for a very basic feature. Facing say a power loss is not usual but the original file should not be processed until the new file is correctly written (or its temporary version should at least be available for recovery). My 2 cts Eric -- qɔᴉɹə Projet OOo4Kids : http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/**index.php/Main_Pagehttp://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/Main_Page L'association EducOOo : http://www.educoo.org Blog : http://eric.bachard.org/news
AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012.03.19(2012.03.13 - 2012.03.19)
Hi all, *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status: *Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan, I can say that the planned work are 100% done. 100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 100% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/2/29 (2012/3/1 - 2012/3/12): *Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. r1299571http://people.apache.org/%7Eorw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1296433/win32OOo_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US_de_fr_it_es_ja_pt-BR_zh-CN_zh-TW_nl_hu_fi_ru.exe Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Mac Lionn, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1, Windows 7 SP1 Test Cases Executed: IP Clearance: libneon replacement issue tracking General testing: Math formula Some Base functions *Interoperability automaiton testing:* Tested total 1188 files with following file types: (odt)|(ott)|(sxw)|(stw)|(doc)|(dot)|(ods)|(ots)|(sxc)|(stc)|(xls)|(xlt)|(odp)|(otp)|(sxi)|(sti)|(ppt)|(pot) The test scenarios cover: - Load - Save - Reopen Only one issue was found, it takes too long time (at least 4 minutes) to open one sample excel file and UI is blocked when loading. OpenOffice.org 3.3 has the same problem. It's very quick using MS Office. Bug i119091 was raised for it. I checked the bugzilla, seems it is one known issue. *Defects Summary*: So far 360 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0. If we count the defects from 1th Aug. of last year, it means the about date we call AOO 3.4, the total defects number is 271. Among the 360 defects, 51 critical defects raised and 17 ones remain opening now. One great news is currently we only have 3 reamining release blockers and two of them need be discussed: Dhttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_idquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Sev▲https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_severity%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Pri▲https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=priority%20DESC%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker OShttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=op_sys%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Assigneehttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=assigned_to%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Statushttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_status%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Resolutionhttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=resolution%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker
Re: time to create ooo-qa mailing list? Re: AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012.03.19(2012.03.13 - 2012.03.19)
Nakata, Yes, I totally agree it's time to create QA mail list, who can help on it? It seems I haven't authority to create it. Do you can create? Or Rober, can you help? Lily 2012/3/21 Maho NAKATA m...@apache.org Hi Lily and all Now time to create a new ML, ooo-qa? It's very hard to track such info, as you see, traffic of this mailing list is very large amount. Thanks Nakata Maho From: xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com Subject: AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012.03.19(2012.03.13 - 2012.03.19) Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:38:53 +0800 Hi all, *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status: *Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan, I can say that the planned work are 100% done. 100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 100% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/2/29 (2012/3/1 - 2012/3/12): *Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. r1299571 http://people.apache.org/%7Eorw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1296433/win32OOo_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US_de_fr_it_es_ja_pt-BR_zh-CN_zh-TW_nl_hu_fi_ru.exe Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Mac Lionn, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1, Windows 7 SP1 Test Cases Executed: IP Clearance: libneon replacement issue tracking General testing: Math formula Some Base functions *Interoperability automaiton testing:* Tested total 1188 files with following file types: (odt)|(ott)|(sxw)|(stw)|(doc)|(dot)|(ods)|(ots)|(sxc)|(stc)|(xls)|(xlt)|(odp)|(otp)|(sxi)|(sti)|(ppt)|(pot) The test scenarios cover: - Load - Save - Reopen Only one issue was found, it takes too long time (at least 4 minutes) to open one sample excel file and UI is blocked when loading. OpenOffice.org 3.3 has the same problem. It's very quick using MS Office. Bug i119091 was raised for it. I checked the bugzilla, seems it is one known issue. *Defects Summary*: So far 360 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0. If we count the defects from 1th Aug. of last year, it means the about date we call AOO 3.4, the total defects number is 271. Among the 360 defects, 51 critical defects raised and 17 ones remain opening now. One great news is currently we only have 3 reamining release blockers and two of them need be discussed: D https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_idquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Sev▲ https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_severity%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Pri▲ https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=priority%20DESC%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker OS https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=op_sys%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Assignee https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=assigned_to%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Status https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_status%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on
Propose AOO 3.4 RC Build Test Plan
Hi all, As AOO 3.4 RC build is nearly ready, I propose AOO 3.4 RC build test plan here. 1. Installer testing Focus on installation testing on below major platforms: -Windows 7 64/32 bit -Windows Vista 64/32 bit -Windows XP SP2 -RedHat Enterprise Linux(RHEL) 64 bit/32 bit -Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit/32 bit -Mac OS 10.7(Lion) -Mac OS 10.6.x -Mac 10.5 Additional Platform are suggested: -FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 -OS/2 -Solaris x86 10 2. Extension testing Volunteers can get the extension list from: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ (??) -Directory -Extensions based on OOo (Verify they still works with IP clearance work done in AOO 3.40 -Extensions based on AOO (View by Most Recent category on extension page) 3. Basic Interoperability Testing The test scenarios cover: -Load -Save -Reopen And the interoperability cover both compatibility with MS office 2003/MS office 2010 and old OOo versions. 4. General testing Do free testing on AOO six components, Math, Base, Draw, Impress, Writer, Calc for three days. 5. Globalization and Translation testing If other languages build are offered as RC builds(seems we will only have English only RC build for AOO 3.4), quick globalization and translation testing will be done. Which include: - Check the UI - Switch locale and check some culture related functions, such as currency, date, formula etc. The above testing are supposed to be done during 1 week and during this week, if no critical issues are reported, we can say the RC build is ready to ship based on vote. I placed this plan here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan Lily
Re: Propose AOO 3.4 RC Build Test Plan
Olaf, 2012/3/22 O.Felka olaf-openoff...@gmx.de Am 22.03.2012 10:16, schrieb xia zhao: Hi all, As AOO 3.4 RC build is nearly ready, I propose AOO 3.4 RC build test plan here. 1. Installer testing Focus on installation testing on below major platforms: -Windows 7 64/32 bit -Windows Vista 64/32 bit -Windows XP SP2 No tests for Windows 2000? If volunteer has this environment, yes, surely he can test against Windows 2000, but this platform isn't major platform AOO 3.4 supposed from my view. -RedHat Enterprise Linux(RHEL) 64 bit/32 bit -Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit/32 bit -Mac OS 10.7(Lion) -Mac OS 10.6.x -Mac 10.5 Additional Platform are suggested: -FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 -OS/2 -Solaris x86 10 2. Extension testing Volunteers can get the extension list from: http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/(??) -Directory -Extensions based on OOo (Verify they still works with IP clearance work done in AOO 3.40 -Extensions based on AOO (View by Most Recent category on extension page) 3. Basic Interoperability Testing The test scenarios cover: -Load -Save -Reopen And the interoperability cover both compatibility with MS office 2003/MS office 2010 and old OOo versions. 4. General testing Do free testing on AOO six components, Math, Base, Draw, Impress, Writer, Calc for three days. 5. Globalization and Translation testing If other languages build are offered as RC builds(seems we will only have English only RC build for AOO 3.4), quick globalization and translation testing will be done. Which include: - Check the UI - Switch locale and check some culture related functions, such as currency, date, formula etc. The above testing are supposed to be done during 1 week and during this week, if no critical issues are reported, we can say the RC build is ready to ship based on vote. I placed this plan here: https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/** AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Planhttps://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan Lily I did some additional tests for r1299571 on Windows XP and Suse 11.3 Linux with VCL testtool. They look very promising. I haven't found any big flaws. Some tests show that some controls are missing and they stumble over the new color picker. Lots of tests don't show any warning or error. Groetjes, Olaf
Re: encountered non-reproduced crash when calling help
Qing Le, I don't think this kind of crash related to language package, it should something related change tracking. You may try more in this area with different language package. I couldn't reproduce this crash against my Windows XP with same language package. Lily 2012/3/22 lou ql louqin...@gmail.com I have English openoffice installed and then installed zh_CN package. Launch Openoffice, new a spreadsheet. and working with Changes for some time in Edit-Changes-Show dialog, with Range checkbox checked, but the editbox is empty, I clicked the Help button, then openoffice crashed...
Re: [Pootle][Translation] Why needs to translate VCLTesttool strings?
Yes, the automation framework for AOO is restructuring now. One simple and easy to mainatence automation structure and tool is hopeing be ready. Best Regards, Lily 2012/3/22 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 3/21/12 7:29 PM, Reizinger Zoltán wrote: Hi, My second question to translation: The po file /basic/source/app.po contains strings to VCLTesttools. Why it needs to be translated? IIRC we decided not to use VCLTesttool in QA work, because we not want to use it, and no one want to learn BASIC. Regards, Zoltan Your question is valid and the answer is simple. The testtool is not maintained anymore and will be probably removed in the future. Work is ongoing to use something else for automated GUI testing ... And we simply haven't found the time to remove all unnecessary code. A good work for volunteers in the future ;-) Juergen
Where we are for AOO 3.4 help content?
Hi all, I search the mail list and read some about help content but still can gatch where we are about help contact for AOO 3.4? Keep same content with those of OO 3.4 beta except for IP, legal related? And how about the transaltion about help? Who can clarify me on this topic? Best Regards, Lily
Re: [TRANSLATION]: RE: RE: Oliver WITTMAN collecting status
Juergen and Oliver, Comparing with help translation, I care more about help content, any change comparing with OO 3.4 beta? Lily 2012/3/23 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 3/22/12 8:48 PM, Dick Groskamp wrote: Oliver, Can you please check the files for Dutch in Apache OpenOffice (INcubating) Help Fileshttps://translate.**apache.org/nl/OOo_help/https://translate.apache.org/nl/OOo_help/ ? There seems to be something wrong, at least from my end :-). Should be Apache OpenOffice 3.4.x Help files https://translate.apache.org/**projects/OOo_34_help/https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34_help/ of course. But I just read the notification of Raphael, so it might have something to do with that https://translate.apache.org/**projects/OOo_34_help/https://translate.apache.org/projects/OOo_34_help/ exactly the help section is not yet full updated Juergen
Re: Propose AOO 3.4 RC Build Test Plan
2012/3/23 Yan Ji yanji...@gmail.com Thanks Best Regards, Yan Ji On Mar 22, 2012, at 5:16 PM, xia zhao wrote: Hi all, As AOO 3.4 RC build is nearly ready, I propose AOO 3.4 RC build test plan here. 1. Installer testing Focus on installation testing on below major platforms: -Windows 7 64/32 bit -Windows Vista 64/32 bit -Windows XP SP2 -RedHat Enterprise Linux(RHEL) 64 bit/32 bit -Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit/32 bit -Mac OS 10.7(Lion) -Mac OS 10.6.x -Mac 10.5 Installation should cover upgrade install from OO 3.3. I also think we need to take care if there is LibreOffice installed in system(e.g. some Linux distribution has LibreOffice preloaded as default) Yes, also some upgrade from 3.4beta need be covered considering 3.4beta has exist for some time. Additional Platform are suggested: -FreeBSD 9.0/8.2 -OS/2 -Solaris x86 10 2. Extension testing Volunteers can get the extension list from: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/ (??) -Directory -Extensions based on OOo (Verify they still works with IP clearance work done in AOO 3.40 -Extensions based on AOO (View by Most Recent category on extension page) I propose to verify template import from website http://templates.services.openoffice.org/ 3. Basic Interoperability Testing The test scenarios cover: -Load -Save -Reopen And the interoperability cover both compatibility with MS office 2003/MS office 2010 and old OOo versions. 4. General testing Do free testing on AOO six components, Math, Base, Draw, Impress, Writer, Calc for three days. 5. Globalization and Translation testing If other languages build are offered as RC builds(seems we will only have English only RC build for AOO 3.4), quick globalization and translation testing will be done. Which include: - Check the UI - Switch locale and check some culture related functions, such as currency, date, formula etc. The above testing are supposed to be done during 1 week and during this week, if no critical issues are reported, we can say the RC build is ready to ship based on vote. I placed this plan here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan Lily
Re: [SUPPORTED OS] RE: Propose AOO 3.4 RC Build Test Plan
Dennis, Yes, I agree with you that still some sites offering ISO image about Windows 2000 and Windows Server 2003 and still many users may work on these platforms. But aware except for the two platforms, there are still some other platforms not listed in this test plan. Such as IRIX((mips4), NetBSD etc. It doesn't means those platforms wouldn't be supported by AOO 3.4, it depends on if volunteers who have these kinds of platforms would like do AOO 3.4 testing and make sure it can work well. Any voluntters on other platforms are always welcome. Best Regards, Lily 2012/3/26 Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org Apparently, this has something to do with it: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/subscriptions/ff723773.aspx See Products Unavailable due to Java-related Settlement. There are many sites that offer the ISO image, though. I had a free copy that I never installed and I figure I must have discarded it in the last year while moving CD-ROMs around my office. But no, I still have it. Of course, it is the original release. It's copyright 1985-1999. Fortunately I still have a November 2005 MSDN DVD with ISO images for the three Windows 2k versions plus Windows Server 2003 SP1, Windows XP SP2, etc. It's interesting that Sun Java and even now, Oracle Java 6, still support both Windows 2000 and Windows Server 2003. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 09:48 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [SUPPORTED OS] RE: Propose AOO 3.4 RC Build Test Plan [ ... ] I checked MSDN to see if the ISO image for Windows 2000 was available for testing. I don't see it. XP/Vista/7/8 preview are available, but no 2000. -Rob Juergen
Re: Layout problems revising OOo doc using OOo3.4
Jean, 2012/3/24 Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com I'm encountering irritating layout problems while revising legacy OpenOffice.org documents using the latest developer build from Apache OpenOffice. Same file works in LibreOffice 3.4.6 with no problems. Here are two of the issues I'm encountering (may be others that I don't recall right now). * Random images become invisible, though still in the file; tweaking the frame size makes them visible again. This problem is known problem as I know, I encountered it very randomly. You may check below two issues to see if they simliar with the problem what you encountered. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118725 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119037 * Resizing a frame to a smaller vertical dimension does not cause the following text to move up to fill the space, as it should. However, after I close the document and reopen it, the text has moved up. Which AOO 3.4 dev snap shot you are using? I tested your sceanrios against r1299571http://people.apache.org/%7Eydario/packages/r1299571/os2/OOo_3.4.0_os2gcci_langpack-arc_de.zipon Windows XP SP2 and Mac 10.7. Both couldn't reproduce the issue you have. From the description, it seems more like one refresh problem. Mac OS X 10.7.3. Haven't tried on other platforms. --Jean
AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012.3.26(20120320 - 20120326)
Hi all, *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status:* Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan, I can say that the planned work are 100% done. 100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 100% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/3/26 (2012/3/19 - 2012/3/26):* Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. r1303653 Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Mac Lionn, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1, Windows 7 SP1 Test Cases Executed: So far, for rev 1303653, Windows and Mac full langauges pakcages are ready for testing. And for english package, it is ready for Windows, Linux RPM/DEB and Mac. The testing we did this week are: 1. Installation testing, cover clean and upgrade 2. Extension testing 3. Some globalization testing 4. Some translation issues tracking For Interoperability automaiton testing, one scenaro is added: - Saving MS 2010 files to MS 2003 format and reopen by AOO 3.4 And more MS 2010 sample files are added: Tested total 3000+ files with will be tested, the testing is ongoing based on latest dev build r1303653. The test scenarios cover: - Load - Save - Reopen *Defects Summary:* So far 383 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0. If we count the defects from 1th Aug. of last year, it means the about date we call AOO 3.4, the total defects number is 294. Among the 383 defects, 53 critical defects raised and 18 ones remain opening now. Still 3 remaining release blockers left to be fixed before propose RC build. 119114 blo P2 Wind orwittm...@googlemail.com ACCE — Extension manager: Crash on 'Show all updates' 119097 nor P3 All yda...@apache.org REOP — IP clearance: remove xwphook and its usage 119098 nor P3 All j...@apache.org CONF — check/adapt license header based on RAT output and SGA 3 bugs found. 23 defects raised in this week,and 14 defects closed. Based on previous testing and my daily usage on AOO 3.4, so far we can say that: The stability is ok. The interoperability with MS Office seems fine. The basic functions work fine. The extension is one weak area. Besides,the accessibility, globalizaiton may have some problems. The general testing in community focus on installability, basic fucntions, interoperability, extension etc. Also some old OOs term also exist on web site, dialog etc. We need confirm when these string replacement will occurs. *Risk:* The high risk for AOO 3.4 is during the migration from OO to AOO, many test cases lost and no one large automation suite can be used for regression testing now. So again I appreciate and thakns for everyone's contribution to QA works. If you have interesting in QA work and decide to contribute to it, please go to AOO 3.4 main page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. Get dev build from: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Write your case by edit this page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ And place your result: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Or you may just do general testing based on your usage without test cases or testing result and just raise defects in Bugzilla directly: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Any contribution is welcome and can contribute to this project's success! Besides, I created entry for project reporting on below wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting Uner it, you can get detail AOO 3.4 QA weekly status reports from this page: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+QA+Status+Report *Now more and more QA peoples are involved in AOO projects and it gives me not only the confidence to verify the quality of AOO 3.4, but more about contributing to AOO quality.* Best Regards, Lily
Re: [RELEASE,CODE]: Bug 119090 - Default Encryption Fails for Down-Level Implementations
2012/3/26 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 3/26/12 3:15 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: TJ, I was doing some nosing around and, based on some information on the Community Forums (thank you Hagar), it looks like the settings are controlled in a file called registrymodifications.xcu, at least on Windows. The location will vary with different versions of windows. On windows, you can find one under the installed-user profile, such as Documents Settings\orcmid\Application Data [a hidden file], OpenOffice/3/user/**registrymodification.xcu for any install since the AES256 has been instituted as default. the *.xcu is actually an XML file and you can find the settings by searching for blowfish and for SHA1. How this works for Mac, Solaris, OS/2, and the various Linus and BSD builds, I have no idea. I think I have mentioned before that it is easy to provide an extension to switch the relevant configuration settings. As the release manger I will accept the issue as critical enough to change the default back for 3.4. For AOO 4.0 we will switch the default again and will provide a GUI to allow the user the change it more easily. I give +1 for Juergen here, this issue is critical but I don't think it is critical enough to block AOO 3.4 ship from QA view, for one software, one new release may has some difference with previous release, even for the same feature. I don't think this issue locates at changing the default setting back for 3.4 or not, the point is which encryption algorithm is more polular and buy in by users. But I agree offering user more flexibility by modifying the configuration file etc is one good idea. Lily For 3.4 we provide a mini extension that switch the default back to AES for users who prefer this encryption algorithm. Juergen - Dennis -Original Message- From: TJ Frazier [mailto:tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 11:26 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [RELEASE,CODE]: Bug 119090 - Default Encryption Fails for Down-Level Implementations [ ... ] ... options to consider: 3. User change to config file, to use the new option. I have suggested a writeup on this, but such instructions are much better aimed at the (few?) users who want the latest and greatest security option, and will do a little work to get it. (Does anybody know what that file name is? Given that, I volunteer to update the Release Notes.) 4. Macro to toggle the settings. This could be distributed in a BASIC library (new or existing); no extension necessary. User instructions to find and run the macro are simple. I may be able to write this; preliminary investigation is promising but not certain. I volunteer to try. There are several real experts on this list, whom I might ask for help. /tj/ [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=119090https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119090 On 19.03.2012 14:48, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 3/19/12 2:16 PM, TJ Frazier wrote: On 3/19/2012 08:48, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, I think issue 119090 is no show stopper from my point of view. The new default provides a better security than before when I understand it correct. And if people detect potential problems they can save the document again with other settings. I agree that this is important for interoperability but no show stopper. Any other opinion? Juergen Hi, Jürgen, Like Dennis, I'm nervous about this. Perhaps we can handle it with a mention in the Release Notes; something like, PLEASE NOTE: the default options for [technical details here] should provide your best /individual/ security. However, if you intend to share the document in secure fashion, the default mode cannot be read by * previous versions of OpenOffice.org * current versions of LibreOffice, at least through [version] * Ms Office [version info] For compatibility, use the options [details here]. I agree that it make sense to mention it in the release notes. Any volunteer for updating the release notes? Juergen
Re: Installation on RHEL
Ram, What's your RHEL 5.1? 64 bits or 32 bit? Can install AOO on linux but couldn't invoke it, this probloem ever exist two months ago on some environment but has been fixed as I know. But I am not sure if it due to the same error message as you described below. Also, please track your issue by BugZilla. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Best Regrads, Lily 2012/3/26 q...@imsoftwaresystems.com Hi , We tried to install OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86_install-rpm_en-US.tar.gz on RHEL 5.1 . We could install but not able to invoke AOO3.4 . We are getting these errors. /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/bin/javaldx: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by /opt/openoffice.org/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_sal.so.3) /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/bin/javaldx: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by /opt/openoffice.org/ure/bin/../lib/libxml2.so.2) /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3) /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsvt.so) /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsvt.so) /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.11' not found (required by /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so) /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/../ure-link/lib/libxml2.so.2) These files do exist in the system but still getting these errors. Any idea on what the problem could be. Thanks Regards, q...@imsoftwaresystems.com [1] Links: -- [1] mailto:q...@imsoftwaresystems.com
Re: ImSoftwareSystems QA team
Ram, Though I have wecomed you and your QA members by private mail, wecome here again. As I show you by Nakata, AOO 3.4 RC build is supposed to be ready soon with the cleaning up the current show stoppers(one is RAT scan and the work based on the result is ongoing, another is IP clearance: remove xwphook and its usage). https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119097 And let's focus on the coming RC build and work together contribute to the first Apache Open Office release publish. Best Regrads, Lily 2012/3/26 q...@imsoftwaresystems.com Hi All, From ImSoftwareSystems there are 4 people participating in the qa of AOO. Let me introduce myself. I am Ram babu Veeranki, I did my Master of Technology in Industrial Engineering. I have around 13 years of Software Development experience. I have worked for IBM for long time and resigned around 1 year back and started this company recently. 1.Kishore Vaka has around 7 years of QA experience.He worked for companies like Nokia,IBM. He did his Masters in computer applications. He leads the QA team. 2.Neelima T - She has Masters in Computer applications.She is a member of the QA team. 3.Swamy - He has bachelors degree in Engineering with specialisation in Electronics. He is a member of the QA team. 4.Kavita - She holds Bachelor's degree in Commerce. She involves in QA occasionally. 5.Janaki Devi - She holds Bachelor of Engineering in Computer science.She is a member if the QA team. Thanks Regards, Im Software Systems
Re: Your program
Amanda, Could you show me what's your want for this program comparing with Microsoft Word? For example, what's the features you want this program offers? I may give suggestion based on you need. Best Regards Lily 2012/3/30 Amanda Sutej amanda.su...@raywhite.com Hello Can you please tell me how similar this program is to Microsoft Word?? I am considering it for my business and some computers already have word and I am needing to put Word onto others. Thanks Sent from my iPhone
Re: Distribution of Windows versions
2012/3/29 drew d...@baseanswers.com On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 14:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-03-28 at 13:25 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Fernand Vanrie s...@pmgroup.be wrote: Rob , Interesting, do you have also figures about the differences in OS : Windows versus Linux or Mac etc.. There were some numbers posted on that a few weeks ago. These charts show the MirrorBrain downloads of OpenOffice, from February: http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/marketing_bouncer.html So, 90% Windows, 6% Mac, 3% Linux. But note this is not necessarily the same distribution as the overall user base. Some ports, like BSD and OS/2 are distributed on other web sites, so they are not counted here. And some derivatives of OOo are included in the Linux distros directly, so are not reflected in these numbers. Please, and asking only for myself, if you know of a linux distro using a derivative of Apache OpenOffice do name it - if you mean LibreOffice, please stop calling it a derivative - it is not a valid reflection of the facts, if you are referring to the former package OpenOffice.org then please refer to it by its legal name. I don't think LO makes sense in this context. We're talking about OOo flavors. The relevant version of OO o distributed by distros was Go-OO. Their numbers would not be included in the MirrorBrain stats. Yes quite true - historically Go-OO, Novell OpenOffice.org, SUN StarOffice and Oracle OpenOffice were all available for Windows, none of those packages would be reflected in the mirrorbrain stats. Another derivative was IBM Lotus Symphony, any idea what the OS mix looks like for that package? For Symphony, the Windows platform mix are mostly like: Windows 7 40% Windows XP 50% Window Vista 9% Others: 1% Very few customers reported defects on other Windows platform. Best wishes, //drew -Rob -Rob Greetz Fernand There was a question in an earlier thread on whether we should still support Windows 2000. It was an open question whether we had many users on that platform. Here are the numbers we have, based on downloads. Note that we can only figure out what platform a user was on when they downloaded OpenOffice. It is entirely possible for someone to download from a Windows 7 machine and then install it onto a Windows 2000 machine. We have no easy way to measure that. However, that should be small compared to the number of users who download onto the same machine they will be installing onto. Win7 57.32% XP 31.37% Vista 10.07% NT0.76% 2003 Server 0.32% 2000 0.14% 98 0.02% CE 0.00%
Re: Distribution of Windows versions
2012/3/29 Juergen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On Wednesday, 28. March 2012 at 22:03, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: To calibrate this a little better, what are 1. the absolute number that 100% is, and 2. the range of calendar dates over which these statistics were derived? It doesn't really matter if we can't answer the question: Is anybody interested to fix Win 2000 bugs? If nobody is interested to develop actively on this platform it is useless to test it or spent any time on this platform. Part agree to you, the better way to saying if one platform should be supported or not depend on customer numbers. If users in good part are on Windows 2000 platforms, testing is valueable to show the AOO 3.4 quality on this platform, or at least can showing the special bugs related to Windows 2000 to see if AOO 3.4 is ready to say supporting this platform even no developer plan to fix bugs. we have much more important things to do... Just my 2 cents Juergen - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:10 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Distribution of Windows versions On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Kevin Sisco kevinsisco61...@gmail.com wrote: Okay so all this data really tells us is that more people download on windows 7. Does this really mean we should stop supporting windows 2000 all together? If support means anything, it means that someone has volunteered to test the platform and confirm that we work, and if there are gross errors with installing or running on that platform, then we treat them as release blockers. But if no one volunteers to do that work, then I think we should not say we support Windows 2000. What the 0.14% figure means to me is that I feel less bad if we say that we do not support Windows 2000. -Rob On 3/28/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: There was a question in an earlier thread on whether we should still support Windows 2000. It was an open question whether we had many users on that platform. Here are the numbers we have, based on downloads. Note that we can only figure out what platform a user was on when they downloaded OpenOffice. It is entirely possible for someone to download from a Windows 7 machine and then install it onto a Windows 2000 machine. We have no easy way to measure that. However, that should be small compared to the number of users who download onto the same machine they will be installing onto. Win7 57.32% XP 31.37% Vista 10.07% NT 0.76% 2003 Server 0.32% 2000 0.14% 98 0.02% CE 0.00%
Propose Ahead RC Test Plan to now
Hi all, Considering recently still have something related IP clearance occured against AOO 3.4 code base, I propose ahead RC test plan to now. Here is the AOO 3.4 RC build test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan And once RC build is ready, we focus on installer and extension testing plus some regression testing. Juergen, when the next dev snapshot build will be ready? Currently it is r1303653.http://people.apache.org/%7Eorw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1303653/win32/OOo_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe Best Regards, Lily
Re: [PROPOSAL] AOO logo rebranding...
AOO_orb1_logo_webSite.jpg Lily 2012/4/1 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com We're getting very close to a 3.4 launch, and the time has come to move forward with a logo rebranidng for at least the user portal web site, http://www.openoffice.org, and possibly the project web site as well, http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/. Quite a number of logo variations have been proposed for uses within OpenOffice, both internal to the program and other uses, page sidebars, Forum header, etc. The most recent discussion can be found at the following thread: http://markmail.org/thread/fvgwlvva5ziib7qg a conversation started by Rob on March 15. You will note that one of the outcomes of this discussion was the desire that a new logo NOT include the word incubating in the logo. What I think we need to focus on now, and get Lazy Consensus on, is a new logo for the upcoming release, 3.4. Internally, we've already started calling OpenOffice.org Apache OpenOffice, and we need to move forward to complete this re-branding to the public. I've put 3 web header logos in... http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ * AOO_orb1_logo_webSite.jpg http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb1_logo_webSite.jpg * AOO_orb2_logo_webSite.jpg http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOO_orb2_logo_webSite.jpg * AOOfeather_logo_webSite.png http://www.openoffice.org/images/AOO_logos/AOOfeather_logo_webSite.png Please respond to this e-mail by selecting your favorite from these 3. Given the Lazy Consenus process, discussion will be closed on Tuesday, April 2, 0900 PDT. Hopefully, we'll have a clear choice by then. MzK Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -- Robert Heinlein
AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012/4/1
Hi all, Due to I will take three days vacation from tomorrow and couldn't access internet, send report today. *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status:* Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan, I can say that the planned work are 100% done. 100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 100% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/3/26 (2012/3/27 - 2012/4/1):* Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. r1303653 Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Windows 7 SP1, Mac Lionn, Mac 10.6.8, Suse 11, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1 Test Cases Executed: Test Build: r1303653 The testing we did this week are: 1. Installation testing, cover clean and upgrade. For English only base package, and Multi-lingual package. 2. Language package install testing and the UI language switch testing. 3. Directory Extension testing 4. Some translation issues tracking For Interoperability automaiton testing again MS 2010 sample files are did, totally 3000+ sample files:, one scenaro is added: - Load - Save - Save as: MS 2010 format - MS 2013 format by AOO 3.4 - Reopen *Defects Summary:* So far 402 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0. And 246 remaining defects opened. If we count the defects from 1th Aug. of last year, it means the about date we call AOO 3.4, the total defects number is 312. Among the 402 defects, 57 critical defects raised and 21 ones remain opening now. Means still some critical defects are kept raising. 2 remaining release blockers left to be fixed before propose RC build. IDhttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_idquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Sev▲https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_severity%20DESC%2Cpriority%2Cquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Pri▲https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=priority%20DESC%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker OShttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=op_sys%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Assigneehttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=assigned_to%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Statushttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=bug_status%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker Resolutionhttps://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=resolution%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker
Re: [RELEASE] 3.4 status at Apr
2012/4/1 Torokhov Sergey torokhov_...@mail.ru On Sunday 01 of April 2012 10:05:51 Shenfeng Liu wrote: Hi, all, I updated the 3.4 status at project wiki: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Reporting Per my reading from our mails, I listed the following issues: 1. RAT - did we complete this work? 2. Buid signing - I didn't find any following up. Did we have a solution? 3. QE - as Lily suggested, should we plan a regression test BEFORE announce RC1? 4. One more show stopper candidate - 119156 5. Dictionary extension - ? Please give any comments. Thanks! - Simon as for 3rd item I found one regression with import of table's borders in Writer yesterday that takes place in AOO 3.4.0 r1303653 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119161) So imho it's worth to make some regression tests. Yes, Torokhov, that's why I want to ahead RC build test plan ahead of RC build announce. Recently still some IP cleanup things occurds against code base so may regression will be introduced. Lily -- Regards
Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668
Juergen, Usually how long the vote will continue? Lily 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote: How long shall we wait before we vote? We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance to take a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will send a call for the VOTE on various lists then. In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts. Juergen 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidtjogischmidt@**googlemail.comjogischm...@googlemail.com : Hi, a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our first release. The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2 header. The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake! The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work. I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668. Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru zh-TW fi The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already built for the developer snapshots. We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied with the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our first RC. Juergen
Previous extension won't work against AOO 3.4?
Juergen, How to understand the comments at: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Please also notice that extensions can't be migrated because of underlying technical changes (removing Berkeley DB). So it means all the previous extension developed against previous OOo version can't work against AOO 3.4? Lily
Re: [RELEASE]: propose next build (RC?!) based on r1309668
Rob, I agree, that's why I ask how long the vote will continue. Once RC build is ready, the RC build test will begin, most focus on installation, and some regression testing. Lily 2012/4/5 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:53 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Per the wiki where Lily proposed the RC build test plan, it will take = 1 week. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan OK. I would recommend that we do not delay the vote for the regression test results. Instead, we should have the voting period be long enough that the regression tests will be done before the vote closes. That way IPMC members can do their release verification in parallel with Lily's final testing. -Rob - Simon 2012/4/5 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Shenfeng Liu liush...@gmail.com wrote: Juergen, Refering to the emails from Lily and me days early, we think a regression testing against the RC build is necessary. I'm not sure how the community vote works, but I suggest to take Lily's vote as a MUST HAVE from QE perspective, after the build passed her regression test. Thanks! How long will it take to do a regression test against the RC build? How many days? -Rob - Simon 2012/4/5 xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com Juergen, Usually how long the vote will continue? Lily 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 4/5/12 10:10 AM, Yong Lin Ma wrote: How long shall we wait before we vote? We made some changes and we should at least give people the chance to take a look on it. I would like start the vote on Monday and I will send a call for the VOTE on various lists then. In the meantime I should have enough time to sign the artifacts. Juergen 2012/4/5 Jürgen Schmidtjogischmidt@**googlemail.com jogischm...@googlemail.com : Hi, a lot of clean up work and also bugfixes were made on the way to our first release. The RAT output includes now only 2 files where one includes an ALv2 header. The other file is a left over and will be changed. A mistake! The NOTICE, LICENSE are updated which was a lot of work. I would like to propose a new build based on revision r1309668. Included languagues: en-US ar de cs fr es gl it ja zh-CN pt-BR nl hu ru zh-TW fi The languages that we had on Pootle and where most of them were already built for the developer snapshots. We should take a closer look on these builds and when we are satisfied with the quality I would like to vote on this build to be used as our first RC. Juergen
Questions about AOO 3.4 performance testing
Hi all, I saw the performance profiling code APPR in svn but not sure if this tool is enabled when we do full build. Juergen or anyone else who knows it, can update me about it? I want to confirm if performance testing is enabled when we do build. I am doing manual performance testing for AOO 3.4 r1303653http://people.apache.org/%7Eorw/DevSnapshots-Rev.1303653/win32/OOo_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe, comparing with OOo 3.3 to see if some regression issues exist. Though the data may not be so stable comparing with automtic testing result, it still can give us some image about where we are for AOO 3.4 performance. Best Regards, Lily
Re: openoffice cannot be launched after upgrade from 3.3 to 3.4 on Ubuntu?
Andre, What Qing Le talked about is couldn't launch AOO on Ubuntu after she upgrade from OOo 3.3 to AOO 3.4, nothing related crash. Lily 2012/4/5 Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de Hi, I have on plea to all of us: if you find any ugly crashes, please flag them as potential show stopper as soon as possible. Remember, we are nearing our first release candidate. The problem below was already known four days ago (issue 119162, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=119162https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119162 ). Thank you, Andre On 05.04.2012 10:42, lou ql wrote: Ubuntu 10.04 build: r1303653 clean install oo 3.4 it works well, but if upgrade from oo3.3, it cannot be launched. I run ./soffice in terminal and get the errors: javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment! Application Error Fatal exception: Signal 6 Stack: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/** libuno_sal.so.3(+0x1f0e4)[**0xdd80e4] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/** libuno_sal.so.3(+0x1ff78)[**0xdd8f78] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/** libuno_sal.so.3(+0x20050)[**0xdd9050] [0xfdf400] /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(**abort+0x182)[0x52ea82] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.** so(+0xdd1ad)[0x79791ad] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.**so(_** ZN11Application5AbortERK6Strin**g+0x1a)[0x79a009e] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/** libsofficeapp.so(+0x154f8)[**0x1254f8] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.** so(+0x107805)[0x79a3805] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/**libvos3gcc3.so(_** ZN3vos26signalHandlerFunction_**implEPvP13oslSignalInfo+0x12)[**0x216cce] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/ure-link/lib/** libuno_sal.so.3(+0x20023)[**0xdd9023] [0xfdf400] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/deploymen**t.uno.sohttp://deployment.uno.so (+0x2c756)[0x1b6b756] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/deploymen**t.uno.sohttp://deployment.uno.so (+0x30267)[0x1b6f267] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/deploymen**t.uno.sohttp://deployment.uno.so (+0x2e7b6)[0x1b6d7b6] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/** libdeploymentmisc.so(_ZN7dp_**misc16syncRepositoriesERKN3com** 3sun4star3uno9ReferenceINS2_**3ucb19XCommandEnvironmentEEE+** 0x336)[0x188242] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/** libsofficeapp.so(+0x26b7e)[**0x136b7e] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/** libsofficeapp.so(+0x1b226)[**0x12b226] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.** so(+0x108385)[0x79a4385] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/libvcl.** so(_Z6SVMainv+0x2c)[0x79a451c] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/.**./basis-link/program/** libsofficeapp.so(soffice_main+**0xd0)[0x1471e0] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/**soffice.bin(main+0x20)[**0x8048d14] /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(_**_libc_start_main+0xe6)[**0x517bd6] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/**soffice.bin[0x8048c61]
[Propose RC Build Blocker]Bug 119162 - two copies of ooobasis packages after upgrade from oo3.3 to 3.4 on Suse 11 SP1 and soffice will crash after open a file
Hi all, I propose 119162 as release blocker. On Suse 11 SP1, after upgrade from OO0 3.3 to AOO 3.4, crash occurs. On Ubuntu 10.04, after upgrader, couldn't launch AOO. It means we have big upgrade problem on Linux platform. So should be taken as release blocker. *Bug 119162* https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119162 - two copies of ooobasis packages after upgrade from oo3.3 to 3.4 on Suse 11 SP1 and soffice will crash after open a file Best Regards, Lily
Re: Who can help modify the licese page?
2012/4/6 Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Hi Lily; --- Gio 5/4/12, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... Data: Giovedì 5 Aprile 2012, 22:03 Hi all, On the lincese page, http://www.openoffice.org/license.html. It still saying developers could use the Creative Commons Attribution License (Attribution-NoDerivs 2.5http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/). SUN/Oracle only accepted work under this license that was non-editable and for which there was no editable version that could be contributed to the project.. If you notice carefully, the phrase is in past tense and applies only to legacy releases. Who can help modify this page? I think a review to the whole page is desirable for the new release. Any committer can change it using the Apache CMS bookmarklet or SVN. The big question is what to write in there. Yes. I can review the whole pages but what to write here is one problem. Maybe here we can just replace Sun/Oracle using Apache? Rob or other project mentors, can you advise? Lily Cheers, Pedro.
Re: Linux builds
Ariel, Do you means user have to remove the old packages manually? It isn't reasonable for end users. Though keeping the old package is default behavior, I couldn't understand the reason. If just want to keeping the previous configuration etc, is it possible to split and erase other packages? No matter which reason, back to the upgrade problem, we need find one way to resolve the couldn't launch or crash problem. Best Regards, Lily 2012/4/10 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:16:38PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Does anybody have tested an upgrade installation with these new Linux packages and can verify the reported problem, see https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119162 I think we haven't noticed this problem before and I would be interested if others can confirm this problem. I will be offline for ~1 day because of traveling and I will make the call for VOTE depending on the feedback from you. Old basis package set remaining is the default behaviour, at least tested with OOo 3.0.0. On Fedora 16: - install OOo 3.0.0 (OOO300_m9 9358) - install OOo 3.1.1 (OOO310_m19 9420) 1) there is an issue with the desktop integration, same for AOO 2) the old basis3.0 remains: /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.1 All ooobasis3.0 packages are kept. Only the following packages are updated: Updating: openoffice.org-ure openoffice.org3 openoffice.org3-base openoffice.org3-calc openoffice.org3-dict-en openoffice.org3-dict-es openoffice.org3-dict-fr openoffice.org3-draw openoffice.org3-en-US openoffice.org3-impress openoffice.org3-math openoffice.org3-writer See http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/yum-update-3.0.0-3.1.1.txt Update to OOo 3.2.1 (000320_m18 9502) leaves: /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.1 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.2 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/yum-update-3.1.1-3.2.1.txt Update to OOo 3.3.0 (000330_m20 9567) leaves: /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.1 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.2 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.3 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/yum-update-3.2.1-3.3.0.txt Update AOO 340m1(Build:9590) rev.1310206 leaves: /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.0 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.1 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.2 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.3 /opt/openoffice.org/basis3.4 http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/yum-update-3.3.0-AOO3.4.0.txt In every case, the application can be launched with /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice The previous desktop integration package has to be removed in order to install the new one. Conclusion: 1) leaving remaining basis packages is the behaviour since OOo 3.0.0. 2) desktop integration install failing happens since OOo 3.0.0 3) The real issue (may be unrelated to 1 and 2) is: [ariel@localhost ~]$ openoffice.org3 Application Error Fatal exception: Signal 6 Stack: /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x34f5b)[0x7fedaf274f5b] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x35f20)[0x7fedaf275f20] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x35fdf)[0x7fedaf275fdf] /lib64/libc.so.6[0x3456836300] /lib64/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x35)[0x3456836285] /lib64/libc.so.6(abort+0x17b)[0x3456837b9b] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(+0x15d3c2)[0x7fedabb9d3c2] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(+0x211c6)[0x7fedaefd81c6] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(+0x18740f)[0x7fedabbc740f] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/ure-link/lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x35fb3)[0x7fedaf275fb3] /lib64/libc.so.6[0x3456836300] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/deployment.uno.so (+0x4d8f2)[0x7fed964c08f2] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/deployment.uno.so (+0x51f2f)[0x7fed964c4f2f] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/deployment.uno.so (+0x51159)[0x7fed964c4159] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libdeploymentmisc.so(_ZN7dp_misc16syncRepositoriesERKN3com3sun4star3uno9ReferenceINS2_3ucb19XCommandEnvironmentEEE+0x308)[0x7fedae021558] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(+0x3b730)[0x7fedaeff2730] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(+0x2abe9)[0x7fedaefe1be9] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(+0x1871c8)[0x7fedabbc71c8] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libvcl.so(_Z6SVMainv+0x1d)[0x7fedabbc733f] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/../basis-link/program/libsofficeapp.so(soffice_main+0x9c)[0x7fedaf00a5fc] /opt/openoffice.org3/program/soffice.bin(main+0xb)[0x40102b] /lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xed)[0x345682169d]
Re: [Propose RC Build Blockers] Bug 119189 (Writer is crashing via Print Dialog) and Bug 119161 (import regression)
Torokhov, I don't think the two bugs should be taken as release blocker. But for second regression issue, it should be fixed in next release. Lily 2012/4/8 Torokhov Sergey torokhov_...@mail.ru The first one Bug 119189 - Print Selection crash Writer when is chosen again https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119189 cause the Writer crashing but itsn't regression as also observed in OpenOffice-3.0.0. The second Bug 119161 - Regression: Writer set table border's line style like none during import from .docx https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119161 is an import regression in comparison with OpenOffice.org 3.3.0
Re: Who can help modify the licese page?
2012/4/6 Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net On Apr 6, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:24 AM, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hi Lily; --- Gio 5/4/12, xia zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... Data: Giovedì 5 Aprile 2012, 22:03 Hi all, On the lincese page, http://www.openoffice.org/license.html. It still saying developers could use the Creative Commons Attribution License (Attribution-NoDerivs 2.5http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/2.5/). SUN/Oracle only accepted work under this license that was non-editable and for which there was no editable version that could be contributed to the project.. If you notice carefully, the phrase is in past tense and applies only to legacy releases. Who can help modify this page? I think a review to the whole page is desirable for the new release. Any committer can change it using the Apache CMS bookmarklet or SVN. The big question is what to write in there. Is there a reason why the page should mix together copyright statements on the website as well as license statements on the releases? Especially since this link appears on every page, it is confusing. Yes, we are still distributing the legacy code. That is not a very good reason, IMHO. I think we should put the legacy license prominent on the legacy download page. But I don't see why it should be in the footer of *every* openoffice.org web page. If it were up to me I'd have the site copyright statement only here, and put the release license link on the download pages only. The download page links to the license page. Maybe we need two license pages. At least three, I think: 1) legacy LPGL for where we offer downloads of the legacy release 2) ALv2 for where we offer downloads of the new Apache releases 3) A site copyright/license page on all pages, explaining the copyright on the website contents itself. But I think it makes zero sense to have page that are not dealing with releases at all have a link that talks confusingly about the license on releases. Remember, through the magic of Google, a user could end up entering any random page on the website, to find the answer to their questions. +1. Make links in the appropriate places. (1) is linked from downloads. (2) is linked from where? (3) is linked from template/footer.html - The site license should have the current /license.html url. - Split the current page in two new pages - legacy_license.html and package_license.html - Edit license.html into the site license file. Yes, this is one good and easy way to resolve these kinds of license problems on pages. Go ahead and make it so. Regards, Dave -Rob Regards, Dave -Rob Cheers, Pedro.
Re: Linux builds
Juergen, Is this anyplace we can record this important known issues and let end user aware it? Like release notes or somethings else like technical note etc? Best regards, Lily 2012/4/10 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 4/10/12 4:33 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: Hi Lily, On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:20:50AM +0800, xia zhao wrote: Ariel, Do you means user have to remove the old packages manually? I don't mean anything, I'm just describing the situation: that's the way I has been working since OOo 3.0.0 It isn't reasonable for end users. Yes. Quite strange nobody seemed to complained about it (I haven't found previous bug reports about it). Though keeping the old package is default behavior, I couldn't understand the reason. Me neither. May be this was the design behind the 3 layer OOo, I've no idea. If just want to keeping the previous configuration etc, is it possible to split and erase other packages? No matter which reason, back to the upgrade problem, we need find one way to resolve the couldn't launch or crash problem. Looking at the backtrace, the might have been introduced by changes on the extension handling, but I'm just guessing (I don't have a build with debugging symbols right now). I agree that the issue is not nice and also happended in earlier versions, at least the desktop integration part. The extension problem can be related to the changes we made in the extension manager... I assume it will take some time to find a good solution. I am no expert in this area but would it be possible to define a meta package that do some clean unintall of older basis packages and desktop integrations? For the future we should rework the 3 layer office asap and should ensure that we can do a smooth and always working upgrade installation. For now we have at least a workaround of a manually uninstall if the meta package wouldn't work. Just an idea Juergen
Read Me file need do spell check Mac platform
I download Mac package for recently rc build candidate:r1309668http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/macos/r1309668/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmgAnd checked the read me file, seems the spell check is needed. For example marktig mailig should be marketing mail etc. I report https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119212 for it. Lily
Re: Read Me file need do spell check Mac platform
Yes Juergen, I suppose these kinds of works will be done before RC build is voted and the modified files be reviewed before we publish official AOO 3.4. Lily 2012/4/11 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 4/10/12 12:07 PM, xia zhao wrote: I download Mac package for recently rc build candidate:r1309668http://**people.apache.org/~jsc/** developer-snapshots/macos/**r1309668/Apache_OpenOffice_** incubating_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_**install_en-US.dmghttp://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-snapshots/macos/r1309668/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_MacOS_x86_install_en-US.dmg And checked the read me file, seems the spell check is needed. For example marktig mailig should be marketing mail etc. I report https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=119212https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119212for it. Thanks Lily, the readme should be reworked completely. It is generated and depending on the platform, different pieces get merged together. We should review the whole readme file for each platform and should update (including spell checking) the content accordingly. Juergen
Linux Build Problem, Bug 119162 can be taken as NOT Show stopper with record the issue in release note
Hi all, We have talked a lot about linux build upgrade problem, as the issue 119162 reported. Personally I think it can be taken as NOT AOO 3.4 RC build show stopper. But we need document this limition and give workaround there in release note. Best regrads, Lily
Re: Bundled extensions
Felka, This should be old problem, another volunteer report the similar problem as well though I didn't catch it when I install English full package and Simple Chinese full package on Mac lion and Windows XP. For the bundle, which extension should be bundled should depend on the real usage. For example, for English package, the english related directories should be bundled. And for one specific lanauge package, the related language directory should be bundled as well. But if many directories for one language, say, English, should we bundle all of them? It should depend one user requirements and if it is handled by our extension pool. For other extension not related to directory, we may also bundle it depend on the if most user will need. Actually for one extension used by most people, I prefer driving it to become one feature of next release. Best Regrads, Lily 2012/4/10 O.Felka olaf-openoff...@gmx.de Moin, I've tested r1309668 en_US to verify the fix for issue 119114 [1]. The good news: - No crash when checking for updates. The bad news: - The error http://download.translate.**org.za/spellchecker/dict-en_** ZA-latest.update.xmlhttp://download.translate.org.za/spellchecker/dict-en_ZA-latest.update.xmldoes not exist. is still present - looks not very professional. - Clicking on 'Show all Updates' shows English (South Africa) spell checker as update available. The description field shows 'An error occurred: Not found!' - looks not very professional. - The presenter screen extension is not installed. Groetjes, Olaf [1] https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=119114https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119114
Re: Linux Build Problem, Bug 119162 can be taken as NOT Show stopper with record the issue in release note
Thanks Kay, installation instruction is one good place to document the linux upgrade issue. Lily 2012/4/11 Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com On 04/11/2012 01:10 AM, xia zhao wrote: Hi all, We have talked a lot about linux build upgrade problem, as the issue 119162 reported. Personally I think it can be taken as NOT AOO 3.4 RC build show stopper. But we need document this limition and give workaround there in release note. Best regrads, Lily yes...my feeling as well...I am going to start working on an upgrade (a new page not an overwrite until we're ready) on our Installation Instruction page later today... http://www.openoffice.org/**download/common/instructions.**htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/common/instructions.html I will include this info for Linux. -- --**--** MzK Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. -- Robert Heinlein
Re: update fails
Hi William, Would you please try the r1309668 or the r1310206 build on: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots? I never use build 9567, but for AOO 3.4, three latest dev builds ago, the package name is still dev package name and not the production name. And upgrade will install a new version on it. I have tried the above two build on my Mac lion and the upgrade work well. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/12 william kenneweg wkenne...@cablespeed.com Hi. Everytime I try to check for update it fails on my mac. 'm using build 9567. help.
Re: update fails
Raphael, Thanks for clarify, I understand it as upgrade manually. Yes, for OOo 3.3 version, the upgrade service is dead. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/12 Raphael Bircher rbirc...@apache.org Am 12.04.12 03:44, schrieb xia zhao: Hi William, Would you please try the r1309668 or the r1310206 build on: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots ? I never use build 9567, This is a 3.3 Version, I can confirm, that the updater don't work there. update36.services.openoffice.org is dead. but for AOO 3.4, three latest dev builds ago, the package name is still dev package name and not the production name. And upgrade will install a new version on it. I have tried the above two build on my Mac lion and the upgrade work well. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/12 william kenneweg wkenne...@cablespeed.com Hi. Everytime I try to check for update it fails on my mac. 'm using build 9567. help.
Re: [BUILD][RELEASE] Dictionaries on language packs
Ariel, On Windows build, it works same way. I understand it is design. Language package only providing translated help, resource strings but nothing with directory. You have to install dictionary separately. Maybe in further release, the language packages can come with dictionaries. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/12 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi *, IIRC language packs came with dictionaries. That way you could install a generic en-US install set and then add language packs providing translated Help, resource strings, and dictionaries. Now the dictionaries are installed only on full localized install sets, but not in the language packs, at least on Linux (didn't try on Win). Is this as-designed or an issue with the Linux builds? Are language packs still supposed to install dictionaries? Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: Bundled extensions
Josef, The bundled extension is easy to remove. After you install AOO, select Tools-Extension Manager. In the extension manager dialog, you can Disable or Remove the extension very easily. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/11 Josef Latt josef.l...@gmx.net Hi, Am 11.04.2012 12:17, schrieb Andre Fischer: On 11.04.2012 18:05, Josef Latt wrote: Hi, Am 11.04.2012 10:26, schrieb xia zhao: I would prefer that no extensions are bundled. Can you provide reasons for that ? As you can see below, there are IMHO some unnecessary extensions for a German user. I prefer installing only needed extensions. The problem comes up every time if you install a new version of OOo. In this package Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_**3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-**deb_de.tar these extensions are bundled: dict-de_DE-frami_2011-06-03.**oxt dict-de_AT-frami_2011-06-03.**oxt dict-de_CH-frami_2011-06-03.**oxt dict-en.oxt dict-it.oxt ooo-dictionnaire-fr-moderne-**v4.2.oxt presentation-minimizer.oxt presenter-screen.oxt They are in this package 'ooobasis3.4-core01_3.4.0-1_**amd64.deb' and will be automaticly installed when OOo is started the first time. IMHO not so good. Why? If you remain to bundle extensions it would be easier to prevent (with a separate package) that they will be installed. Regards Josef -- PGP Schlüssel: 311D1055 http://keyserver.pgp.com
Re: Maybe stupid questions and summary of my comments (fwd)
Hannu, 2012/4/7 Hannu Puhakka ha...@vetokonsultit.fi Hi OpenOffice developers I joined this list a day ago. I am not familiar with your groups and not sure if I am on the right list at all. Maybe someone can comment. I am using oof OOO330m20 (Build: 9567). I have heard rumors that there are several OpenOffice projects - no idea what they might be and what to use - that my version is created by Oracle. You may try the AOO 3.4 new ones, which is on the way to publish. You can get it from: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots I am running a small software company in Finland and used normally MsOffice for presentations, sheets and documents. Because of HW crash I now started to manage by OpenOffice. Then I have got some problems and ideas to improve OpenOffice. I suppose I myself do not have resources for programming OpenOffice. Welcome the problems and ideas. It will help to improve AOO quality. I means Apache OpenOffice. Where should I send my comments? What you did is one good place. ooo-dev mail list. Another good place for problem and suggestion is BugZilla. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ Where is the database to check if my comments have already been handled? BugZilla is the database to report bugs, including problem or some enhancements request. What version I should use to be useful with my comments? https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots r1310206http://people.apache.org/%7Earielch/packages/r1310206/linux_x86-64/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gzis proposed AOO 3.4 RC build, you may use itfor your comments. How should I title my comments? Each comment with one bug. Some of my comments: 1) bug: / Impress: I insert a new slide. I click a text element and change the text size from default 32 to 22 (rigth click on the frame and choose Character size 22). If I move the mouse on the first text row to start writing, but do not write even a letter and THEN I select the frame, font size will be changed again 32 although the character size shows 22. I have to change the size to maybe 15 and back to 22 to be able to continue. You may modify the master page of impress if you plan modify the text size from 32 to 22 for whole slides. 2)improvement / Impress /Writer: Changing of picture size by mouse is very annoying. If you have inserted a picture from file into your presentation or document, you in 96 % of the cases need to modify the size - smaller or bigger. And 99% of those cases you expect that the picture should keep the original shape - it meens to Keep ratio!!! But now in Open Office when you resize the image, it never keeps the ratio - even if the Keep ratio checkbox is checked. I suppose this feature has been five years. If I do not work properly, still the feature should be changed because nobody cannot understand. See the attachments keep_ratio.jpg,resize.jpg. I don't have this kind of problem against AOO 3.4, maybe you can try again. 3) bug: / Impress: Text area. Many times when I try to insert a new line on my list pressing Enter, the application do not add a new line, instead tries to continue writing the same line and the letters appear at the same character at the end of the line. I can fix it by selection another text area and after that coming back. The problems appears many times a day, not for every text area. See the attachment open_office_text_area.jpg. Also I haven't this kind of problem against AOO 3.4, you can try and if you still have it, report it in BugZilla. 4) development proposal: Every open office program should have on the Help menu two selections: Send a bug report, Send a development proposal which should order a link where you could send your comments with automatic information of the version you used. Well, seems one good suggestion. Also post it in BugZilla as enhancement request. Regards Hannu --**--** -- Hannu Puhakka, +358 40 59 68 159, hannu.puha...@vetokonsultit.fi Vetokonsultit Oy,+358 9 2747 400, Kultasepänkatu 4 B, 04250 KERAVA,FINLAND --**--** --
Re: [RELEASE]: showstopper Bug 119215 - save operation fail and prompt continuing to save endlessly on r1309668-Chinese China (zh-CN) version
You work very late for fix...Great to see root cause has been found. I will stand by waiting for the build with fix to verify. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/12 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com On 4/12/12 11:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, I was just short in front of starting the vote for our RC after uploading a new Windows version based on r1310206 to have the same version on all platforms. But we have found a further serious issue that is definitely a showstopper Bug 119215 - save operation fail and prompt continuing to save endlessly on r1309668-Chinese China (zh-CN) version I was able to confirm it for pt-Br on MacOS. We have to analyze this problem. It seems to be a relation with partly wrong/missing translations and the save problem that we didn't understand right now. Both pr-Br and zh-CN versions have the problem with a partly wrong translation, at least some menu items are still English and in both versions saving of a new document is not possible. Maybe other languages are effected as well... I will keep you informed! Juergen I believe that I have found the problem. I have to built now again over night to verify it. I will keep you informed... We use language id's like pt-BR, zh-CN, ... and on the pootle server they are pt_BR, zh_CN. That seems to be a problem that for all languages with a - the localize.sdf file contains _ and the conversion into xcu files doesn't understand both and generated nothing. Well I am guessing right now only because it is late in China and I still have some Jet lag but the built is running and I will see the result tomorrow morning. Hopefully that will fix the problem and we can move on with our RC ;-) Good night Juergen PS: I am not sure if it can be changed on pootle, I have to check it. Otherwise we have to convert it on fly before we check the sdf files.
AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012/4/16
Hi all, Due to I will take three days vacation from tomorrow and couldn't access internet, send report today. *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status:* Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan, I can say that the planned work are 100% done. 100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of areas most impacted by removed/replaced modules due to IP clearance. 100% general testing have been done. These are general functional tests. We are focus on RC build(may call it pre-release build) testing against r1325589http://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-snapshots/windows/r1325589/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exehttp://people.apache.org/%7Ejsc/developer-snapshots/windows/r1325589/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe *AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report as of 2012/3/26 (2012/4/9 - 2012/4/16):* Test build: dev snapshot builds: Rev. r1303653， r1310206，r1325589 Test Platforms: Windows XP SP3, Windows 7 SP1, Mac Lionn, Mac 10.6.8, Suse 11, Ubuntu 10.04, Redhat 6.1 Test Cases Executed: Test Build: r1303653, r1310206, r1325589 The testing we did this week are: 1. Installation testing, cover clean and upgrade. For English only base package, specific langauge full package and multi-langauges full packages. 2. Language package install testing and the UI language switch testing. 3. Directory Extension testing 4. Some small regressiont testing Rerun Interoperability automaiton testing against r1309668. Test on Mac 10.7. The scenario: 1. Open MS 2007 files in AOO3.4 2. Save it as MS 2003 format 3. Reopen it in AOO3.4 Two regression defects are found, one is Took too long time to open some files. The other is froze when saving files. When we tested specific language full package, one show stoper problem was found: i119215: Save operation fail and prompt continuing to save endlessly on r1309668-Chinese China (zh-CN) version. Which be fixed in r1325589. This week, QA volunteers will focus on RC build verification as RC build voting seems come soon. Here is the RC build test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Plan *Defects Summary:* So far 432 defects raised against 3.4beta, AOO dev and 3.4m0. And 264 remaining defects opened. If we count the defects from 1th Aug. of last year, it means the about date we call AOO 3.4, the total defects number is 342. Among the 432 defects, 60 critical defects raised and 213 ones remain opening now. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMEDbug_status=CONFIRMEDbug_status=ACCEPTEDbug_status=REOPENEDfield0-0-0=flagtypes.namefield0-0-1=flagtypes.namefield0-0-2=bug_severityquery_format=advancedtype0-0-0=equalstype0-0-1=equalstype0-0-2=equalsvalue0-0-0=3.4_release_blocker%2Bvalue0-0-1=3.4_release_blocker%3Fvalue0-0-2=blockerorder=short_desc%2Cpriority%2Cbug_severityquery_based_on=All340ReleaseBlocker 119162 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119162 cri P2 Linu ooo-issues@incubator.apache... CONF --- two copies of ooobasis packages after upgrade from oo3.3 to 3.4 on Suse 11 SP1 and soffice will crash after open a file https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119162 119208https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119208 maj P2 All arie...@apache.org REOP --- Cannot select a different icon set https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119208 Among the two show stopers, 119162 is proposed to be taken as known limition and record in installation guide and release note. For 119208, from accessibility view, it is show stopper. Based on previous testing and my daily usage on AOO 3.4, so far we can say that: The stability is ok. The interoperability with MS Office seems fine. The basic functions work fine. The extension is one weak area The upgrade installation on linux has some problems Besides,the accessibility, globalizaiton may have some problems. The general testing in community focus on installability, basic fucntions, interoperability, extension etc. Also some old OOs term also exist on web site, dialog etc. We need confirm when these string replacement will occurs. *Risk:* The high risk for AOO 3.4 is during the migration from OO to AOO, many test cases lost and no one large automation suite can be used for regression testing now. So again I appreciate and thakns for everyone's contribution to QA works. If you have interesting in QA work and decide to contribute to it, please go to AOO 3.4 main page:http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. Get dev build from: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Unofficial+Developer+Snapshots Write your case by edit this page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestCases/ And place your result: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/TestResults Or you may just do general testing based on your usage without test cases or testing result and just raise defects in Bugzilla
Re: [Proposal] Official Google+ Page for Apache OpenOffice
please add me lilyzh...@gmail.com Lily 2012/4/19 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Like Twitter and Facebook, Google+ is a good way to engage with users and the larger OpenOffice ecosystem. Unlike Twitter, Google+ has some enhanced capabilities, such as ease of sharing pictures and video and chat hangouts. The user base is slightly different as well. Google+ is more cutting edge at present, compared to Twitter, and has more early adopters. An important capability from the perspective of the PPMC is that Google+ has built in support for allowing multiple account managers, allowing us to put an account under PPMC control and share responsibilities for maintaining it. I'm proposing that we make this Google+ account into the official Google+ account for the project. I'd be happy to add any PPMC members who are willing to help me with it. Just send me your Google ID and I will add you. https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/114598373874764163668/114598373874764163668/about -Rob
Re: Using language pack r1303653 with program version r1325589?
Regina, It doesn't works as the revision number is different. Seems AOO 3.4 RC build will only publish English full package and specific language full package. The language package wouldn't be published. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/18 Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de Hi all, I get crashes on the multi-language version r1303653, which makes the version not usable for me. But I need German and English UI. Is it possible to use the language pack r1303653 with the program version r1325589? Kind regards Regina
Re: [RELEASE]: status update for our first RC
Is the langauge package be built as well? Lily 2012/4/19 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Hi Jürgen, On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 03:46:33AM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, I would like to inform you about the current status for our RC. Andrew has updated the NOTICE file and we will rebuild the office now. I have also updated the version number string for the src package. Building, signing and update will take some time. And once the bits are available I will start the voting immediately. The new revision for building the RC is *1327774* Looking at https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119210 I think we should build full install sets, SDK, *and* language packs. What do you think? Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
RC Build Verification Test Report
Hi all, I summary the RC build verification report got in ooo-qa list here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+RC+Build+Test+Report In general, below issues found RC build (r1325589): 1. Simplified Chinese, Traditional Chinese and Brazilian language packages don't work on Linux platform. This may due to the same problem that using - in filed name, which occurred for full native language packages before. If we don't plan publish language package for AOO 3.4, this issue can defer. If publish, i119210 may have to be fixed. - i119210: Cannot switch UI languages to zh_CN on Linux if installed en_US then zh_CN language package. 2. Upgrade issues on Linux platform: - i119158: Cannot upgrade integrated menu from 3.3 to 3.4 on Redhat6.1/Suse11. - i119162: Two copies of ooobasis packages after upgrade from ooo3.3 to 3.4 The two ones are known issues and recored in installation guide and release note(I didn't check them so far but be supposed do this way). No ship stopper. - i119258: Languages remain in the languages list though the dictionaries cannot be used after upgrade from OOo 3.3 This issue is something related with Linux upgrade. User can remove the invalid packages manually to fix this problem. 3. Two functional regression defects: - i119238: The title and author font is too small if creating one presentation from template except for original ones. I have no choice to verify which build introduce this regression but may not RC build. - i119239: Blue background in notes view. Same as above. 4. Upgrade from OO 3.2 to AOO 3.4 - i119271: Spell checker doesn't work if upgrade from OOo 3.2 to AOO 3.4. This one should be checked. 5. Install/reinsatll round trip issue. On Windows XP SP3, Clean install AOO 3.4 English package. And the other language packages. Then uninstall AOO 3.4. Now the language packages for AOO 3.4 are still there. Try to install OOo 3.3 now. After install, I tried to new document/presentation/spreadsheet,freeze and no response. I tried the scenarios three times and got same result. Then I tried to upgrade to AOO 3.4 again, always be told that I should exit AOO 3.4 quick start first. It seems the below scenario doesn't work: OOo 3.3 plus AOO 3.4 language packages. The above scenario is seldom be used and may be record in somewhere like forum etc. No ship stopper. So only one thing need check is i119271. I will double check it against new RC2 build: r1327774. Anyway, based on above testing result, I give +1 for RC build voting. Best regards, Lily
Re: Pinterest
Nancy, I like your idea very much! Currently Pinterest is very popular in Social media and Social business in the world. More and more enterprise, community etc use it to promote their product and business. Surely we can use it to promote AOO 3.4 and further release. I am writing one paper about From Social Media to Social Business these days and is thinking how to promote AOO to the world except for the ways we used before. Except Pinterest, Youtube is one good way we can use, I suggest we record some video to doom AOO 3.4 and do something funny about the release etc. And promote it to Youtube. We may work together. And anyone else has interesting? With AOO 3.4 is released I suppose we should have some promotion activities. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/26 Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com Hi! I attended an hour webinar highlighting the use of Pinterest for businesses - B2C, B2B and also personal. I learned that in less than a year, this social media format has surpassed youtube, google+, linkedin - and is now number 3 in usage under facebook and twitter (not sure which one of the latter is first). Terminology - PINS are images that you post on your BOARDS - like you would post picture cards on an office bulletin board. The thing is that pins can be linked to a landing page, folks can 'REPIN' your pin (with its image and links) to their own Boards. They can 'like', 'comment', REPIN. I can imagine ways that this could be used - for instance a separate BOARD for Writer,Draw, etc. Each board could have its own tutorial 'pin' with a link to the respective landing page. Their could be a board for the history, another for people behind the scenes, the imagination can go on - the webinar suggested using up to 32 boards, but you can have more. Each board displays 5 pins. Look at General Electrics site ( pinterest.com/generalelectric)- notice how the images on their boards entice people to look around and create a bold statement (especially the first board). Another idea would be to reward those that contribute to openoffice by placing a 'I helped too' kind of board, people could repin their award on their own boards and their friends could see what they have been up to. Because this is increasing in popularity, and a great way to spread branding, I suggest reserving the openoffice username even if no one plans to use Pinterest yet. Starbucks (pinterest.com/starbucks)has reserved their name, but does not use it yet. I have just signed up to use pinterest, and have not added anything to my boards yet. I do not know the way to get analytics yet, still reading about it, but the webinar mentioned this is available, as well as tracking keywords that are working for the competitors. So far it is by invitation from another pinterest user to set up an account. By the way, check out /microsoft - everyone is starting out, it seems. Nancy Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses
Re: Pinterest
OOps, type error again...:*_*, doom-demo. Lily 2012/4/28 Xia Zhao lilyzh...@gmail.com Nancy, I like your idea very much! Currently Pinterest is very popular in Social media and Social business in the world. More and more enterprise, community etc use it to promote their product and business. Surely we can use it to promote AOO 3.4 and further release. I am writing one paper about From Social Media to Social Business these days and is thinking how to promote AOO to the world except for the ways we used before. Except Pinterest, Youtube is one good way we can use, I suggest we record some video to demo AOO 3.4 and do something funny about the release etc. And promote it to Youtube. We may work together. And anyone else has interesting? With AOO 3.4 is released I suppose we should have some promotion activities. Best regards, Lily 2012/4/26 Nancy K nancythirt...@yahoo.com Hi! I attended an hour webinar highlighting the use of Pinterest for businesses - B2C, B2B and also personal. I learned that in less than a year, this social media format has surpassed youtube, google+, linkedin - and is now number 3 in usage under facebook and twitter (not sure which one of the latter is first). Terminology - PINS are images that you post on your BOARDS - like you would post picture cards on an office bulletin board. The thing is that pins can be linked to a landing page, folks can 'REPIN' your pin (with its image and links) to their own Boards. They can 'like', 'comment', REPIN. I can imagine ways that this could be used - for instance a separate BOARD for Writer,Draw, etc. Each board could have its own tutorial 'pin' with a link to the respective landing page. Their could be a board for the history, another for people behind the scenes, the imagination can go on - the webinar suggested using up to 32 boards, but you can have more. Each board displays 5 pins. Look at General Electrics site ( pinterest.com/generalelectric)- notice how the images on their boards entice people to look around and create a bold statement (especially the first board). Another idea would be to reward those that contribute to openoffice by placing a 'I helped too' kind of board, people could repin their award on their own boards and their friends could see what they have been up to. Because this is increasing in popularity, and a great way to spread branding, I suggest reserving the openoffice username even if no one plans to use Pinterest yet. Starbucks (pinterest.com/starbucks)has reserved their name, but does not use it yet. I have just signed up to use pinterest, and have not added anything to my boards yet. I do not know the way to get analytics yet, still reading about it, but the webinar mentioned this is available, as well as tracking keywords that are working for the competitors. So far it is by invitation from another pinterest user to set up an account. By the way, check out /microsoft - everyone is starting out, it seems. Nancy Nancy Web Design Free 24 hour pass to lynda.com. Video courses on SEO, CMS, Design and Software Courses
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 3.4 (incubating) RC1
Juergen, Good news to all of us! When the publish will be finished? I'd like to try the download testing with official build published. Best regards, Lily 2012/5/2 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com The vote period for releasing Apache OpenOffice (incubator) RC1 has concluded. The ballot passed. VOTE TALLY +1: IPMC members: +1 Marvin Humphrey +1 Dave Fisher +1 Jim Jagielski For reference see also the vote thread on ooo-dev http://mail-archives.apache.**org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-** dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.**9000707%40googlemail.com%3Ehttp://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-dev/201204.mbox/%3C4F9A452A.9000707%40googlemail.com%3E Thank you for your support Juergen
