[Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[P.O. Jonsson]

Dear Rony,

I have tried this

address "bash" command with output stem hi.

But the error message is the same. This works though (piping into a file)

address "bash" "ls -al > test.txt"

So the first part of the command works.

What am I doing wrong here? I SVN-ed build 11467, that should have the Address 
With included, right?

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se




> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
> 
> Von: "P.O. Jonsson" 
> Betreff: Aw: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references in 5.0.0
> Datum: 2. September 2018 um 22:41:13 MESZ
> An: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List 
> 
> Antwort an: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List 
> 
> 
> Dear Rony,
> 
> I know this is late feedback but I was finally able to test your examples 
> (from your Dropbox) and I still think there is something wrong. Test1.rex 
> performs ls -al which should produce something like
> 
> POs-12Core-Pro:addresswith po$ ls -al
> total 104
> drwxrwxrwx  14 po  staff   476  1 Sep 17:57 .
> drwxr-xr-x+ 53 po  staff  1802  1 Sep 17:48 ..
> -rw-r--r--@  1 po  staff  6148  1 Sep 17:48 .DS_Store
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   416 31 Jul 11:25 filter1.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   394 31 Jul 11:25 filter2.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   403 31 Jul 11:25 filter3.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   691  1 Sep 17:57 test1.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   709 31 Jul 11:23 test2.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   720 31 Jul 11:22 test3.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   623 30 Jul 13:22 test4.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   546 30 Jul 13:14 useFilter1.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   547 30 Jul 13:15 useFilter2.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   547 30 Jul 13:15 useFilter3.rex
> -rw---@  1 po  staff   739 31 Jul 11:26 useFilter4.rex
> POs-12Core-Pro:addresswith po$ 
> 
> 
> When I run test1.rex with Build 11467 on a MAC I do not get any entities in 
> the stem and a RC(127) which I think is an error. Here a trace, can you 
> pinpoint where it goes wrong? I am sorry I cannot find it myself since I do 
> not know in detail what to expect. I can see that the first part of the code 
> runs fine (parsing the source) and I suspect something to be wrong around the 
> „address“ command but since I do not know the exact syntax for the new 
> behavior I can not find out what is missing. Any help is appreciated.
> 
> 
> POs-12Core-Pro:addresswith po$ rexx test1
>  3 *-* parse upper source opSys +1
>>K>   "SOURCE" => "DARWIN COMMAND /Users/po/AddressWith/test1.REX"
>>>>   "DARWIN COMMAND /USERS/PO/ADDRESSWITH/TEST1.REX"
>>>>   "1"
>>>>   "D"
>  4 *-* if opSys='W' 
>>>>   "0"
>  6 *-*   else
>  7 *-* command="ls -al"
>>>>   "ls -al"
>  9 *-* prefix="rexx"
>>>>   "rexx"
> 11 *-* parse source . . this
>>K>   "SOURCE" => "DARWIN COMMAND /Users/po/AddressWith/test1.REX"
>>>>   "DARWIN COMMAND /Users/po/AddressWith/test1.REX"
>>>>   "/Users/po/AddressWith/test1.REX"
> 12 *-* say filespec("name",this) "-> redirecting to stems:"
>>>>   "test1.REX -> redirecting to stems:"
> test1.REX -> redirecting to stems:
> 13 *-* say
>>>>   ""
> 
> 15 *-* say "about to execute" pp(command) "->"
>>>>   "about to execute [ls -al] ->"
> about to execute [ls -al] ->
> 17 *-* address "" command with output stem hi.
>>>>   "ls -al"
>>K>   "INPUT" => "HI."
>+++   "RC(127)"
> 19 *-* say "<- after executing" pp(command)"."
>>>>   "<- after executing [ls -al]."
> <- after executing [ls -al].
> 21 *-* say '"HI.":' pp(hi.) "hi~class:" pp(hi.~class)", hi.0:" pp(hi.0)
>>>>   ""HI.": [HI.] hi~class: [The Stem class], hi.0: [0]"
> "HI.": [HI.] hi~class: [The Stem class], hi.0: [0]
> 22 *-* say "---"
>>>>   "---"
> ---
> 23 *-* say "running command" pp(command) "yielded the following output, 
> stored in" pp(hi.)":"
>>>>   "running command [ls -al] yielded the following output, stored 
> in [HI.]:"
> running command [ls -al] yielded the following output, stored in [HI.]:
> 24 *-* do i=1 to hi.0
>>K> "TO" => "0"
>>>> "1"
> POs-12Core-Pro:addresswith po$ 
> 
> 
> 
> Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
> P.O. Jonsson
> oor...@jonases.se 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 28.07.2018 um 17:22 schrieb Rony > >:
>> 
>> Dear P.O.,
>> 
>> being on a visit weekend trip I have not been able to come up with samples 
>> of address...with that work under Linux so far. However documentation and 
>> samples may be studied eg at > > or in the docs of the 
>> Regina  interpreter from Sourceforge 
>> >  
>> 

Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[Rick McGuire]

Yeah, a copy and paste error.

Rick

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 7:24 AM Erich Steinböck 
wrote:

> Rick, we're getting gcc build warnings for two of the new
> VariableReference stubs.
> Should use `return NULLOBJECT` instead of `return false`, right?
>
> ~~~
> Building CXX object 
> CMakeFiles/rexx.dir/interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp.o
> .../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp: In function ‘_RexxStringObject* 
> VariableReferenceName(RexxThreadContext*, RexxVariableReferenceObject)’:
> .../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp:1568:12: warning: converting 
> ‘false’ to pointer type ‘RexxStringObject {aka _RexxStringObject*}’ 
> [-Wconversion-null]
>  return false;
> ^
> .../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp: In function ‘_RexxObjectPtr* 
> VariableReferenceValue(RexxThreadContext*, RexxVariableReferenceObject)’:
> .../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp:1581:12: warning: converting 
> ‘false’ to pointer type ‘RexxObjectPtr {aka _RexxObjectPtr*}’ 
> [-Wconversion-null]
>  return false;
> ^
> ~~~
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Rick McGuire 
> wrote:
>
>> SVN was giving me fits with the merge, but I believe trunk is now
>> correctly updated with both features.
>>
>> Rick
>>
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[Erich Steinböck]

Rick, we're getting gcc build warnings for two of the new VariableReference
stubs.
Should use `return NULLOBJECT` instead of `return false`, right?

~~~
Building CXX object CMakeFiles/rexx.dir/interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp.o
.../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp: In function
‘_RexxStringObject* VariableReferenceName(RexxThreadContext*,
RexxVariableReferenceObject)’:
.../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp:1568:12: warning:
converting ‘false’ to pointer type ‘RexxStringObject {aka
_RexxStringObject*}’ [-Wconversion-null]
 return false;
^
.../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp: In function
‘_RexxObjectPtr* VariableReferenceValue(RexxThreadContext*,
RexxVariableReferenceObject)’:
.../interpreter/api/ThreadContextStubs.cpp:1581:12: warning:
converting ‘false’ to pointer type ‘RexxObjectPtr {aka
_RexxObjectPtr*}’ [-Wconversion-null]
 return false;
^
~~~


On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Rick McGuire  wrote:

> SVN was giving me fits with the merge, but I believe trunk is now
> correctly updated with both features.
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[Rony G. Flatscher]

On 26.07.2018 14:47, Rick McGuire wrote:
> SVN was giving me fits with the merge, but I believe trunk is now correctly 
> updated with both
> features.
Created installation packages for 32- and 64-bit Windows and a 64-bit version 
for MacOSX for my
students.

For those who are eager to check out the new features over the weekend:
 
(the Dropbox directory
also contains very brief examples in "examples.addressWith" and 
"examples.variableReference" which
are meant for experimentation only).

---rony

P.S.: Please note, the MacOSX version needs Java installed in order to work 
(e.g. from
http://java.com). Standalone MacOSX ooRexx versions should be expected in the 
future (cf. P.O.'s
work in this corner).



>
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 3:43 PM Rick McGuire  > wrote:
>
> Not of a lot of discussion on this, but also not a lot of objection 
> either. If nothing
> changes, then I will start merging these features back into trunk on 
> Monday.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:30 AM Rony G. Flatscher  > wrote:
>
> Forwarding to this list as Gil seems to not be able to post currently.
>
> ---rony
>
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Re: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references 
> in 5.0.0
> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:06:30 -0400
> From: Gil Barmwater  
> 
> To:   Rony G. Flatscher  
> 
>
>
>
> While I agree that merging the two sandboxes into trunk would 
> probably give them more
> exposure, assuming beta builds are available, the "stumbling block" 
> remains the
> documentation.  I have looked at the reference material for Address 
> With for Regina and it
> is extensive.  Other than Rick and Erich, I know of no one who has 
> the capability to
> create that documentation.  While I am willing to help, the DocBook 
> learning curve is
> non-trivial, to say nothing of the requirements for actually building 
> a document.  I would
> definitely not want the code merged into trunk without the 
> documentation being available. 
> So we must wait for Erich to return from vacation it appears.
>
> My initial feeling was we should release 5.0.0 as it now exists in 
> trunk and then do a
> 5.1.0 with the new features - Address With and variableReference - 
> after the documentation
> and testing are finished.  Unfortunately, this approach also requires 
> Erich's time which
> has been limited recently.  So I now think we should get the 
> documentation done as
> described above, allow for some more beta testing of those features 
> and then, finally
> release 5.0.0.
>
> Just my two cents worth... 
>
> Gil B.
>
> PS I have sent this off-list as I am still unable to post to the list 
> - my IP address has
> been flagged for sending spam.  Please feel free to post this to the 
> list for me.  Thanks.
>
> On 7/18/2018 11:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>> Adding both, addressWith and variableReference to trunk would help 
>> expose it to a much
>> wider audience for experimenting with it once new betas got created 
>> from trunk. Both
>> features are a real boon for ooRexx, IMHO.
>>
>> ---rony
>>
>>
>> On 18.07.2018 12:35, Erich Steinböck wrote:
>>> I'd really value this addition. With RFE#4 it's almost the oldest 
>>> request for
>>> enhancement that we have in our tracker. 
>>>
>>> I'll start doing the required changes for rexxref and rexxpg when 
>>> returning from
>>> vacation.  Finishing will take some time as there are quite a few 
>>> API changes.
>>>
>>> Rick McGuire mailto:object.r...@gmail.com>> 
>>> schrieb am Di., 17.
>>> Juli 2018 22:08:
>>>
>>> I'm not sensing that there is much interest in these features 
>>> being in 5.0.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rick McGuire 
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Things have been very quiet about these new features, so I 
>>> don't really know if
>>> anybody is actually playing around with them or not. The 
>>> code is done, tests are
>>> written. The biggest outstanding item is getting the docs 
>>> written. So, we need
>>> to reach a consensus on whether either of these features 
>>> should be in 5.0.0 so
>>> the process of merging can start.
>>>
>>> Rick 
>>>

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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[Rick McGuire]

SVN was giving me fits with the merge, but I believe trunk is now correctly
updated with both features.

Rick

On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 3:43 PM Rick McGuire  wrote:

> Not of a lot of discussion on this, but also not a lot of objection
> either. If nothing changes, then I will start merging these features back
> into trunk on Monday.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:30 AM Rony G. Flatscher 
> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding to this list as Gil seems to not be able to post currently.
>>
>> ---rony
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references in 5.0.0
>> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:06:30 -0400
>> From: Gil Barmwater  
>> To: Rony G. Flatscher  
>>
>> While I agree that merging the two sandboxes into trunk would probably
>> give them more exposure, assuming beta builds are available, the "stumbling
>> block" remains the documentation.  I have looked at the reference material
>> for Address With for Regina and it is extensive.  Other than Rick and
>> Erich, I know of no one who has the capability to create that
>> documentation.  While I am willing to help, the DocBook learning curve is
>> non-trivial, to say nothing of the requirements for actually building a
>> document.  I would definitely not want the code merged into trunk without
>> the documentation being available.  So we must wait for Erich to return
>> from vacation it appears.
>>
>> My initial feeling was we should release 5.0.0 as it now exists in trunk
>> and then do a 5.1.0 with the new features - Address With and
>> variableReference - after the documentation and testing are finished.
>> Unfortunately, this approach also requires Erich's time which has been
>> limited recently.  So I now think we should get the documentation done as
>> described above, allow for some more beta testing of those features and
>> then, finally release 5.0.0.
>>
>> Just my two cents worth...
>> Gil B.
>>
>> PS I have sent this off-list as I am still unable to post to the list -
>> my IP address has been flagged for sending spam.  Please feel free to post
>> this to the list for me.  Thanks.
>>
>> On 7/18/2018 11:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>>
>> Adding both, addressWith and variableReference to trunk would help expose
>> it to a much wider audience for experimenting with it once new betas got
>> created from trunk. Both features are a real boon for ooRexx, IMHO.
>>
>> ---rony
>>
>>
>> On 18.07.2018 12:35, Erich Steinböck wrote:
>>
>> I'd really value this addition. With RFE#4 it's almost the oldest request
>> for enhancement that we have in our tracker.
>>
>> I'll start doing the required changes for rexxref and rexxpg when
>> returning from vacation.  Finishing will take some time as there are quite
>> a few API changes.
>>
>> Rick McGuire  schrieb am Di., 17. Juli 2018 22:08:
>>
>>> I'm not sensing that there is much interest in these features being in
>>> 5.0.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rick McGuire 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Things have been very quiet about these new features, so I don't really
 know if anybody is actually playing around with them or not. The code is
 done, tests are written. The biggest outstanding item is getting the docs
 written. So, we need to reach a consensus on whether either of these
 features should be in 5.0.0 so the process of merging can start.

 Rick

>>>
>>
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[P.O. Jonsson]

Dear René,

I have no opinion on Address With and variable references (and I am no 
developer) but if you talk about a no-admin version for MAC I have already 
provided that. There is a link here: /projects/oorexx/files/oorexx/5.0.0beta/ 
with a slightly misleading text. There is a ooRexx 5.0.0 version for a USB 
stick that can run without any privileges. If you want to discuss this subject 
please open a new thread and I will provide more detail.

Hälsningar/Regards/Grüsse,
P.O. Jonsson
oor...@jonases.se



> Am 22.07.2018 um 00:50 schrieb René Jansen :
> 
> I am all for merging both features into trunk. Then we must press for 
> release, and focus on the no-admin version.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> René.
> 
> On 21 Jul 2018, at 17:09, Jon Wolfers  > wrote:
> 
>> Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to the list.
>> 
>> I would really like to see address with in ooRexx.  I don't mind if it is 
>> 5.0.0 or the next release, but it does bring us closer to ANSI and regina.
>> 
>> I can't get excited about variable references, but that might be a lack of 
>> imagination on my part.
>> 
>> Thank you Rick and Gil and Erich for your efforts here
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> On 21 July 2018 at 20:43, Rick McGuire > > wrote:
>> Not of a lot of discussion on this, but also not a lot of objection either. 
>> If nothing changes, then I will start merging these features back into trunk 
>> on Monday.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:30 AM Rony G. Flatscher > > wrote:
>> Forwarding to this list as Gil seems to not be able to post currently.
>> 
>> ---rony
>> 
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references in 5.0.0
>> Date:Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:06:30 -0400
>> From:Gil Barmwater  
>> 
>> To:  Rony G. Flatscher  
>> 
>> 
>> While I agree that merging the two sandboxes into trunk would probably give 
>> them more exposure, assuming beta builds are available, the "stumbling 
>> block" remains the documentation.  I have looked at the reference material 
>> for Address With for Regina and it is extensive.  Other than Rick and Erich, 
>> I know of no one who has the capability to create that documentation.  While 
>> I am willing to help, the DocBook learning curve is non-trivial, to say 
>> nothing of the requirements for actually building a document.  I would 
>> definitely not want the code merged into trunk without the documentation 
>> being available.  So we must wait for Erich to return from vacation it 
>> appears.
>> 
>> My initial feeling was we should release 5.0.0 as it now exists in trunk and 
>> then do a 5.1.0 with the new features - Address With and variableReference - 
>> after the documentation and testing are finished.  Unfortunately, this 
>> approach also requires Erich's time which has been limited recently.  So I 
>> now think we should get the documentation done as described above, allow for 
>> some more beta testing of those features and then, finally release 5.0.0.
>> 
>> Just my two cents worth...  
>> Gil B.
>> 
>> PS I have sent this off-list as I am still unable to post to the list - my 
>> IP address has been flagged for sending spam.  Please feel free to post this 
>> to the list for me.  Thanks.
>> 
>> On 7/18/2018 11:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>>> Adding both, addressWith and variableReference to trunk would help expose 
>>> it to a much wider audience for experimenting with it once new betas got 
>>> created from trunk. Both features are a real boon for ooRexx, IMHO.
>>> 
>>> ---rony
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18.07.2018 12:35, Erich Steinböck wrote:
 I'd really value this addition. With RFE#4 it's almost the oldest request 
 for enhancement that we have in our tracker. 
 
 I'll start doing the required changes for rexxref and rexxpg when 
 returning from vacation.  Finishing will take some time as there are quite 
 a few API changes.
 
 Rick McGuire mailto:object.r...@gmail.com>> 
 schrieb am Di., 17. Juli 2018 22:08:
 I'm not sensing that there is much interest in these features being in 5.0.
 
 Rick
 
 On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rick McGuire >>> > wrote:
 Things have been very quiet about these new features, so I don't really 
 know if anybody is actually playing around with them or not. The code is 
 done, tests are written. The biggest outstanding item is getting the docs 
 written. So, we need to reach a consensus on whether either of these 
 features should be in 5.0.0 so the process of merging can start.
 
 Rick 
>> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[René Jansen]

I am all for merging both features into trunk. Then we must press for release, 
and focus on the no-admin version.

Best regards,

René.

> On 21 Jul 2018, at 17:09, Jon Wolfers  wrote:
> 
> Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to the list.
> 
> I would really like to see address with in ooRexx.  I don't mind if it is 
> 5.0.0 or the next release, but it does bring us closer to ANSI and regina.
> 
> I can't get excited about variable references, but that might be a lack of 
> imagination on my part.
> 
> Thank you Rick and Gil and Erich for your efforts here
> 
> Jon
> 
>> On 21 July 2018 at 20:43, Rick McGuire  wrote:
>> Not of a lot of discussion on this, but also not a lot of objection either. 
>> If nothing changes, then I will start merging these features back into trunk 
>> on Monday.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:30 AM Rony G. Flatscher  
>>> wrote:
>>> Forwarding to this list as Gil seems to not be able to post currently.
>>> 
>>> ---rony
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Forwarded Message 
>>> Subject:Re: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references in 5.0.0
>>> Date:   Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:06:30 -0400
>>> From:   Gil Barmwater 
>>> To: Rony G. Flatscher 
>>> 
>>> While I agree that merging the two sandboxes into trunk would probably give 
>>> them more exposure, assuming beta builds are available, the "stumbling 
>>> block" remains the documentation.  I have looked at the reference material 
>>> for Address With for Regina and it is extensive.  Other than Rick and 
>>> Erich, I know of no one who has the capability to create that 
>>> documentation.  While I am willing to help, the DocBook learning curve is 
>>> non-trivial, to say nothing of the requirements for actually building a 
>>> document.  I would definitely not want the code merged into trunk without 
>>> the documentation being available.  So we must wait for Erich to return 
>>> from vacation it appears.
>>> 
>>> My initial feeling was we should release 5.0.0 as it now exists in trunk 
>>> and then do a 5.1.0 with the new features - Address With and 
>>> variableReference - after the documentation and testing are finished.  
>>> Unfortunately, this approach also requires Erich's time which has been 
>>> limited recently.  So I now think we should get the documentation done as 
>>> described above, allow for some more beta testing of those features and 
>>> then, finally release 5.0.0.
>>> 
>>> Just my two cents worth...  
>>> Gil B.
>>> 
>>> PS I have sent this off-list as I am still unable to post to the list - my 
>>> IP address has been flagged for sending spam.  Please feel free to post 
>>> this to the list for me.  Thanks.
>>> 
 On 7/18/2018 11:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
 Adding both, addressWith and variableReference to trunk would help expose 
 it to a much wider audience for experimenting with it once new betas got 
 created from trunk. Both features are a real boon for ooRexx, IMHO.
 
 ---rony
 
 
> On 18.07.2018 12:35, Erich Steinböck wrote:
> I'd really value this addition. With RFE#4 it's almost the oldest request 
> for enhancement that we have in our tracker. 
> 
> I'll start doing the required changes for rexxref and rexxpg when 
> returning from vacation.  Finishing will take some time as there are 
> quite a few API changes.
> 
> Rick McGuire  schrieb am Di., 17. Juli 2018 22:08:
>> I'm not sensing that there is much interest in these features being in 
>> 5.0.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rick McGuire  
>>> wrote:
>>> Things have been very quiet about these new features, so I don't really 
>>> know if anybody is actually playing around with them or not. The code 
>>> is done, tests are written. The biggest outstanding item is getting the 
>>> docs written. So, we need to reach a consensus on whether either of 
>>> these features should be in 5.0.0 so the process of merging can start.
>>> 
>>> Rick 
>>> 
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[Jon Wolfers]

Sorry it's taken me a while to get back to the list.

I would really like to see address with in ooRexx.  I don't mind if it is
5.0.0 or the next release, but it does bring us closer to ANSI and regina.

I can't get excited about variable references, but that might be a lack of
imagination on my part.

Thank you Rick and Gil and Erich for your efforts here

Jon

On 21 July 2018 at 20:43, Rick McGuire  wrote:

> Not of a lot of discussion on this, but also not a lot of objection
> either. If nothing changes, then I will start merging these features back
> into trunk on Monday.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:30 AM Rony G. Flatscher 
> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding to this list as Gil seems to not be able to post currently.
>>
>> ---rony
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references in 5.0.0
>> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:06:30 -0400
>> From: Gil Barmwater  
>> To: Rony G. Flatscher  
>>
>> While I agree that merging the two sandboxes into trunk would probably
>> give them more exposure, assuming beta builds are available, the "stumbling
>> block" remains the documentation.  I have looked at the reference material
>> for Address With for Regina and it is extensive.  Other than Rick and
>> Erich, I know of no one who has the capability to create that
>> documentation.  While I am willing to help, the DocBook learning curve is
>> non-trivial, to say nothing of the requirements for actually building a
>> document.  I would definitely not want the code merged into trunk without
>> the documentation being available.  So we must wait for Erich to return
>> from vacation it appears.
>>
>> My initial feeling was we should release 5.0.0 as it now exists in trunk
>> and then do a 5.1.0 with the new features - Address With and
>> variableReference - after the documentation and testing are finished.
>> Unfortunately, this approach also requires Erich's time which has been
>> limited recently.  So I now think we should get the documentation done as
>> described above, allow for some more beta testing of those features and
>> then, finally release 5.0.0.
>>
>> Just my two cents worth...
>> Gil B.
>>
>> PS I have sent this off-list as I am still unable to post to the list -
>> my IP address has been flagged for sending spam.  Please feel free to post
>> this to the list for me.  Thanks.
>>
>> On 7/18/2018 11:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>>
>> Adding both, addressWith and variableReference to trunk would help expose
>> it to a much wider audience for experimenting with it once new betas got
>> created from trunk. Both features are a real boon for ooRexx, IMHO.
>>
>> ---rony
>>
>>
>> On 18.07.2018 12:35, Erich Steinböck wrote:
>>
>> I'd really value this addition. With RFE#4 it's almost the oldest request
>> for enhancement that we have in our tracker.
>>
>> I'll start doing the required changes for rexxref and rexxpg when
>> returning from vacation.  Finishing will take some time as there are quite
>> a few API changes.
>>
>> Rick McGuire  schrieb am Di., 17. Juli 2018 22:08:
>>
>>> I'm not sensing that there is much interest in these features being in
>>> 5.0.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rick McGuire 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Things have been very quiet about these new features, so I don't really
 know if anybody is actually playing around with them or not. The code is
 done, tests are written. The biggest outstanding item is getting the docs
 written. So, we need to reach a consensus on whether either of these
 features should be in 5.0.0 so the process of merging can start.

 Rick

>>>
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Re: [Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[Rick McGuire]

Not of a lot of discussion on this, but also not a lot of objection either.
If nothing changes, then I will start merging these features back into
trunk on Monday.

Rick

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:30 AM Rony G. Flatscher 
wrote:

> Forwarding to this list as Gil seems to not be able to post currently.
>
> ---rony
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references in 5.0.0
> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:06:30 -0400
> From: Gil Barmwater  
> To: Rony G. Flatscher  
>
> While I agree that merging the two sandboxes into trunk would probably
> give them more exposure, assuming beta builds are available, the "stumbling
> block" remains the documentation.  I have looked at the reference material
> for Address With for Regina and it is extensive.  Other than Rick and
> Erich, I know of no one who has the capability to create that
> documentation.  While I am willing to help, the DocBook learning curve is
> non-trivial, to say nothing of the requirements for actually building a
> document.  I would definitely not want the code merged into trunk without
> the documentation being available.  So we must wait for Erich to return
> from vacation it appears.
>
> My initial feeling was we should release 5.0.0 as it now exists in trunk
> and then do a 5.1.0 with the new features - Address With and
> variableReference - after the documentation and testing are finished.
> Unfortunately, this approach also requires Erich's time which has been
> limited recently.  So I now think we should get the documentation done as
> described above, allow for some more beta testing of those features and
> then, finally release 5.0.0.
>
> Just my two cents worth...
> Gil B.
>
> PS I have sent this off-list as I am still unable to post to the list - my
> IP address has been flagged for sending spam.  Please feel free to post
> this to the list for me.  Thanks.
>
> On 7/18/2018 11:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
>
> Adding both, addressWith and variableReference to trunk would help expose
> it to a much wider audience for experimenting with it once new betas got
> created from trunk. Both features are a real boon for ooRexx, IMHO.
>
> ---rony
>
>
> On 18.07.2018 12:35, Erich Steinböck wrote:
>
> I'd really value this addition. With RFE#4 it's almost the oldest request
> for enhancement that we have in our tracker.
>
> I'll start doing the required changes for rexxref and rexxpg when
> returning from vacation.  Finishing will take some time as there are quite
> a few API changes.
>
> Rick McGuire  schrieb am Di., 17. Juli 2018 22:08:
>
>> I'm not sensing that there is much interest in these features being in
>> 5.0.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rick McGuire 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Things have been very quiet about these new features, so I don't really
>>> know if anybody is actually playing around with them or not. The code is
>>> done, tests are written. The biggest outstanding item is getting the docs
>>> written. So, we need to reach a consensus on whether either of these
>>> features should be in 5.0.0 so the process of merging can start.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>
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[Oorexx-devel] Fwd: Address With and variable references in 5.0.0

[Rony G. Flatscher]

Forwarding to this list as Gil seems to not be able to post currently.

---rony



 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Re: [Oorexx-devel] Address With and variable references in 5.0.0
Date:   Wed, 18 Jul 2018 14:06:30 -0400
From:   Gil Barmwater 
To: Rony G. Flatscher 



While I agree that merging the two sandboxes into trunk would probably give 
them more exposure,
assuming beta builds are available, the "stumbling block" remains the 
documentation.  I have looked
at the reference material for Address With for Regina and it is extensive.  
Other than Rick and
Erich, I know of no one who has the capability to create that documentation.  
While I am willing to
help, the DocBook learning curve is non-trivial, to say nothing of the 
requirements for actually
building a document.  I would definitely not want the code merged into trunk 
without the
documentation being available.  So we must wait for Erich to return from 
vacation it appears.

My initial feeling was we should release 5.0.0 as it now exists in trunk and 
then do a 5.1.0 with
the new features - Address With and variableReference - after the documentation 
and testing are
finished.  Unfortunately, this approach also requires Erich's time which has 
been limited recently. 
So I now think we should get the documentation done as described above, allow 
for some more beta
testing of those features and then, finally release 5.0.0.

Just my two cents worth... 

Gil B.

PS I have sent this off-list as I am still unable to post to the list - my IP 
address has been
flagged for sending spam.  Please feel free to post this to the list for me.  
Thanks.

On 7/18/2018 11:25 AM, Rony G. Flatscher wrote:
> Adding both, addressWith and variableReference to trunk would help expose it 
> to a much wider
> audience for experimenting with it once new betas got created from trunk. 
> Both features are a real
> boon for ooRexx, IMHO.
>
> ---rony
>
>
> On 18.07.2018 12:35, Erich Steinböck wrote:
>> I'd really value this addition. With RFE#4 it's almost the oldest request 
>> for enhancement that we
>> have in our tracker. 
>>
>> I'll start doing the required changes for rexxref and rexxpg when returning 
>> from vacation. 
>> Finishing will take some time as there are quite a few API changes.
>>
>> Rick McGuire mailto:object.r...@gmail.com>> schrieb 
>> am Di., 17. Juli 2018
>> 22:08:
>>
>> I'm not sensing that there is much interest in these features being in 
>> 5.0.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 4:12 PM Rick McGuire > > wrote:
>>
>> Things have been very quiet about these new features, so I don't 
>> really know if anybody
>> is actually playing around with them or not. The code is done, tests 
>> are written. The
>> biggest outstanding item is getting the docs written. So, we need to 
>> reach a consensus on
>> whether either of these features should be in 5.0.0 so the process 
>> of merging can start.
>>
>> Rick 
>>

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