[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen 3.1 & iPads

[Nadine White]

Good Afternoon,

We are a Sitka Evergreen library in British Columbia.  We moved to Evergreen 
3.1 this May and successfully used our iPads for check outs and registrations 
before they mysteriously stopped working a week later.  The problem appears to 
be with registering the iPads as workstations and for some reason we can't get 
past this initial step.

We had the same trouble with our desktops but were able to resolve those issues 
with updating our Chrome settings.  We've tried to do the equivalent on the 
iPads (e.g. clear cookies, etc.) but with no success.

Are there any libraries successfully using Evergreen 3.1 on iPads?  If so, do 
you have any advice you could offer us?

Thanks in advance!
Nadine


Nadine White
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Whistler Public Library

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Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

[Daniel Wells]

Janet, I can speak to those textual changes, as I am probably responsible
for both.  They were attempts to improve accuracy and consistency within
the great ball of changes touched by the omnibus branch.  Whether these
attempts succeeded is of course debatable :)

To explain a little further, first, within the holdings view we used to
have two separate options, one to mark a library for call number ("volume")
transfer, another to mark a call number for copy/item transfer.  These
options were folded into a single marking action for ease-of-use, and I
picked the name "holding transfer" as an attempt at a generic enough term
to mean either transferring an individual copy or a whole call number's
worth of copies (depending on the context of the action).  Because the
record-level transfer option uses the same code to do the same thing (just
with a default library chosen), "Mark for Holdings Transfer" was an attempt
to convey that these were two paths to the same underlying behavior.  It
also helped prevent term mismatch for other messages related to these
behaviors (think confirmation boxes).

As for the "Add Volumes" vs "Add Copies", the problem there was that the
omnibus branch created an "Add Volume" menu entry within the holdings view
which did exactly that, add an empty "volume" (call number) with no copy.
It felt like bad design to have this menu entry for "Add Volume" which only
added the call number while also having an "Add Volumes" button which added
both the call number and the copy.  An early revision, for maximum clarity,
relabeled the record-level button to "Add Volumes and Copies", but a long
button label such as that brings its own challenges.  It was then reasoned
that "Add Copies" in some sense implicitly means (at the record level) "Add
(Volumes and) Copies", since you can't have the second without the first.
And thus the current label was born.

Overall, I think it is a very good idea to keep questioning these labels as
we work toward consistency.  As we do so, we should also keep in mind how
these labels overlap and interact.  Otherwise, we might paint ourselves
into a corner if by deciding to replace every X with Y, when some of the X
was really Xa or Xb.  In particular, and to echo what Lynn brings up, I
think all of the following terms need to be carefully reconsidered as to
how they relate, and how we should use them for maximum clarity and
expressiveness:

Copy
Item
Holding
Volume
Part
Call Number

All of these terms are common and useful in libraries, but I personally
think there is at least one where Evergreen strays pretty far from the
common and useful meaning of the term.  And with that, I leave you all in
suspense until tomorrow!

Sincerely,
Dan

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Lynn Floyd 
wrote:

> I came up with another terminology that should be looked at Call Number
> vs. Volume.  There are lots of places where these terms are used
> interchangeably.
>
>
>
> Lynn Floyd
>
> lfl...@andersonlibrary.org
>
> Anderson County Library
>
> Anderson, SC
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Open-ils-general  list.georgialibraries.org> *On Behalf Of *Diane Disbro
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 07, 2018 2:51 PM
> *To:* Evergreen Discussion Group  georgialibraries.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in
> the web client
>
>
>
> I appreciate this, Kathy!
>
>
>
> Some inconsistencies in the XUL client have already been removed in the
> web client - standalone interface/offline circulation; show holds/view
> holds on bib. Simplify, simplify, simplify. I look forward to seeing the
> survey.
>
>
> Diane Disbro
>
> Branch Manager/Circulation Coordinator
>
> Union Branch
>
> Scenic Regional Library
>
> 308 Hawthorne Drive
> 
>
> Union, MO
> 
>   63084
> 
>
> (636) 583-3224
>
> ddis...@scenicregional.org
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Kathy Lussier 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> A recent discussion on the cataloging list turned my attention back to
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1538691. This bug primarily
> focused on the way we used items and copies to describe the same entity in
> Evergreen. A majority of people providing feedback on the bug indicated a
> preference for items over copies.
>
>
>
> I have created a branch that does so, as well as another branch that does
> the opposite. I have also loaded each branch on a test server to give
> people an idea of how things would look in an all item world or in an all
> copy world.
>
>
>
> https://mlnc2.noblenet.org/eg/staff/  uses 'items.'
>
> https://mlnc3.noblenet.org/eg/staff/ uses 'copies'
>
>
>
> The login for each server is admin / evergreen123.
>
>
>
> I think it would be good to get broader community feedback before deciding
> on a direction.
>
>
>
> While working on the branch, I 

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

[Lynn Floyd]

I came up with another terminology that should be looked at Call Number vs. 
Volume.  There are lots of places where these terms are used interchangeably.  

 

Lynn Floyd

  lfl...@andersonlibrary.org

Anderson County Library

Anderson, SC

 

 

From: Open-ils-general  On 
Behalf Of Diane Disbro
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2018 2:51 PM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group 
Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web 
client

 

I appreciate this, Kathy! 

 

Some inconsistencies in the XUL client have already been removed in the web 
client - standalone interface/offline circulation; show holds/view holds on 
bib. Simplify, simplify, simplify. I look forward to seeing the survey.




Diane Disbro

Branch Manager/Circulation Coordinator

Union Branch

Scenic Regional Library

308 Hawthorne Drive

Union, MO 63084

(636) 583-3224

ddis...@scenicregional.org  

 

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Kathy Lussier mailto:kluss...@masslnc.org> > wrote:

Hi all,

 

A recent discussion on the cataloging list turned my attention back to 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1538691. This bug primarily focused 
on the way we used items and copies to describe the same entity in Evergreen. A 
majority of people providing feedback on the bug indicated a preference for 
items over copies.

 

I have created a branch that does so, as well as another branch that does the 
opposite. I have also loaded each branch on a test server to give people an 
idea of how things would look in an all item world or in an all copy world. 

 

https://mlnc2.noblenet.org/eg/staff/  uses 'items.'

https://mlnc3.noblenet.org/eg/staff/ uses 'copies'

 

The login for each server is admin / evergreen123.

 

I think it would be good to get broader community feedback before deciding on a 
direction.

 

While working on the branch, I realized we also need to make a decision about 
the use or shelving location vs. copy location.

 

What I would like to do is send out a community survey that asks: 1) do we need 
these terms to be consistent (people may be perfectly happy using items and 
copies interchangeably) and b) which terms are preferred.

 

Do you all think this is the best approach for moving forward? Are there any 
other inconsistent terms we should be adding to the survey?

 

Let me know what you think. My hope is to issue the survey by Thursday.

 

Thanks!
Kathy




-- 
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128
kluss...@masslnc.org  

 



Lynn Floyd
Head of Information Technology
Anderson County Library
Anderson, SC
lfl...@andersonlibrary.org

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

[Janet Schrader]

Hi Kathy,

One thing I noticed immediately when I tested the omnibus cataloging bug
fixes on a CWMARS test server with version 3.0.10, was that the "add
volumes" button now says "add copies". After 6+ years on EG using add
'volumes' this really stood out. Is this because of the bug fixes or the
3.0.10 version, or local change?

Another difference on the same test server is under the "Mark for" button
on the bib record display. Previously it was mark for "Volume transfer" now
it's "Holdings transfer".  Same question as above as to why. If a
deliberate change, it seems that "volume" has more meanings than just "call
number".



Janet


Janet Schrader

Bibliographic Services Supervisor | CW MARS

67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201, Worcester, MA 01606

P: 508-755-3323 x 325 | F: 508-757-7801

--

jschra...@cwmars.org  ||  http;//cwmars.org 


On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Kathy Lussier  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A recent discussion on the cataloging list turned my attention back to
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1538691. This bug primarily
> focused on the way we used items and copies to describe the same entity in
> Evergreen. A majority of people providing feedback on the bug indicated a
> preference for items over copies.
>
> I have created a branch that does so, as well as another branch that does
> the opposite. I have also loaded each branch on a test server to give
> people an idea of how things would look in an all item world or in an all
> copy world.
>
> https://mlnc2.noblenet.org/eg/staff/  uses 'items.'
> https://mlnc3.noblenet.org/eg/staff/ uses 'copies'
>
> The login for each server is admin / evergreen123.
>
> I think it would be good to get broader community feedback before deciding
> on a direction.
>
> While working on the branch, I realized we also need to make a decision
> about the use or shelving location vs. copy location.
>
> What I would like to do is send out a community survey that asks: 1) do we
> need these terms to be consistent (people may be perfectly happy using
> items and copies interchangeably) and b) which terms are preferred.
>
> Do you all think this is the best approach for moving forward? Are there
> any other inconsistent terms we should be adding to the survey?
>
> Let me know what you think. My hope is to issue the survey by Thursday.
>
> Thanks!
> Kathy
>
> --
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> (508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org
>
>

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

[Diane Disbro]

I appreciate this, Kathy!

Some inconsistencies in the XUL client have already been removed in the web
client - standalone interface/offline circulation; show holds/view holds on
bib. Simplify, simplify, simplify. I look forward to seeing the survey.

Diane Disbro
Branch Manager/Circulation Coordinator
Union Branch
Scenic Regional Library
308 Hawthorne Drive
Union, MO 63084
(636) 583-3224
ddis...@scenicregional.org

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Kathy Lussier  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> A recent discussion on the cataloging list turned my attention back to
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1538691. This bug primarily
> focused on the way we used items and copies to describe the same entity in
> Evergreen. A majority of people providing feedback on the bug indicated a
> preference for items over copies.
>
> I have created a branch that does so, as well as another branch that does
> the opposite. I have also loaded each branch on a test server to give
> people an idea of how things would look in an all item world or in an all
> copy world.
>
> https://mlnc2.noblenet.org/eg/staff/  uses 'items.'
> https://mlnc3.noblenet.org/eg/staff/ uses 'copies'
>
> The login for each server is admin / evergreen123.
>
> I think it would be good to get broader community feedback before deciding
> on a direction.
>
> While working on the branch, I realized we also need to make a decision
> about the use or shelving location vs. copy location.
>
> What I would like to do is send out a community survey that asks: 1) do we
> need these terms to be consistent (people may be perfectly happy using
> items and copies interchangeably) and b) which terms are preferred.
>
> Do you all think this is the best approach for moving forward? Are there
> any other inconsistent terms we should be adding to the survey?
>
> Let me know what you think. My hope is to issue the survey by Thursday.
>
> Thanks!
> Kathy
>
> --
> Kathy Lussier
> Project Coordinator
> Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
> (508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org
>
>

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Towards more consistent terminology in the web client

[Kathy Lussier]

Hi all,

A recent discussion on the cataloging list turned my attention back to
https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1538691. This bug primarily
focused on the way we used items and copies to describe the same entity in
Evergreen. A majority of people providing feedback on the bug indicated a
preference for items over copies.

I have created a branch that does so, as well as another branch that does
the opposite. I have also loaded each branch on a test server to give
people an idea of how things would look in an all item world or in an all
copy world.

https://mlnc2.noblenet.org/eg/staff/  uses 'items.'
https://mlnc3.noblenet.org/eg/staff/ uses 'copies'

The login for each server is admin / evergreen123.

I think it would be good to get broader community feedback before deciding
on a direction.

While working on the branch, I realized we also need to make a decision
about the use or shelving location vs. copy location.

What I would like to do is send out a community survey that asks: 1) do we
need these terms to be consistent (people may be perfectly happy using
items and copies interchangeably) and b) which terms are preferred.

Do you all think this is the best approach for moving forward? Are there
any other inconsistent terms we should be adding to the survey?

Let me know what you think. My hope is to issue the survey by Thursday.

Thanks!
Kathy

-- 
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Zebra printer

[Oxford, Susan]

Hello,

We have been using our Zebra label printer for a couple of years now and it 
worked perfectly. We recently updated to a new 3.something Evergreen and got 
our zebra printer working of sorts. Today for the first time ever our Zebra 
printer is giving us a message that we need to update drivers. I don't know if 
we really do have to update our drivers for the first time ever or if this is 
some exciting new Evergreen feature bug.

Thoughts?

Susan


Susan Oxford, MLIS
Campus Librarian
University College of the North
UCN Thompson Campus
55 UCN Dr.
Thompson, MB, R8N 1L7
204-677-6408 x 2
soxf...@ucn.ca

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Setting up a stand-alone ILS in northern Haiti

[Kathy Lussier]

Hi David,

Welcome!

1) What version of Evergreen should I download on a small network of
> computers (3-4 PC network)?


We generally recommend the latest stable release, which currently is 3.1.4.

2) Does Evergreen print spine, pockets and card labels?


Evergreen currently supports printing labels to continuous feed printers.
There is some current work to allow printing to sheet labels, but it isn't
expected to be available until a later release. If you need to print to
sheet labels, many libraries use mail merge in their word processing
programs or use the solution developed by Branch District Library -
https://www.branchdistrictlibrary.org/professional/labels/.

3) Anyone else working on Evergreen in Haiti?


I haven't heard of any libraries in Haiti using Evergreen yet, but it's
always possible that there are libraries using it that we have never heard
from. We would love to hear about it if there are!

If you run into any technical issues while installing the software, feel
free to post questions to this list or the technical discussion list -
http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-dev. You can
also get help in our the #evergreen IRC channel on the freenode network. It
is most active Monday through Friday from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. in the Eastern
time zone.

More information is available at https://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/irc/.
If you join the IRC channel, we recommend that you register your nickname
first to guarantee that you can post messages -
https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration.

Feel free to let us know if you have any more questions!

-- 
Kathy Lussier
Project Coordinator
Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
(508) 343-0128kluss...@masslnc.org


On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:45 AM, David Harmeyer  wrote:

> Hi all, this is my first post to the list.
>
> I've been a librarian at Azusa Pacific University (10,000 students,
> Christian liberal arts, 1/2 undergrad, 1/2 masters and doctoral students)
> in southern California for 21 years.
>
> I directed creating a 10,000 volume library in Ethiopia back in 2005-6
> using something called Right On Programs (a stand-alone PC-based ILS). But
> sadly the folks at their last location (in New York) have not responded to
> my many calls, faxes and emails.
>
> I'm now in need of stand-alone ILS to catalog and run circulation for a
> 3,200 volume health science library going to northern Haiti in a couple of
> weeks (the request is to use Dewey Decimal Classification). Stand-alone
> because Internet is quite irregular (if at all) in the final location of
> the collection.
>
> At a recent library directors meetings of other colleges and universities,
> Evergreen was highly recommended. So here I am.
>
> Three questions:
> 1) What version of Evergreen should I download on a small network of
> computers (3-4 PC network)?
> 2) Does Evergreen print spine, pockets and card labels?
> 3) Anyone else working on Evergreen in Haiti?
>
> Appreciate your Help!
>
> Dave
>
>
> Dave Harmeyer, M.L.S., Ed.D.
> Library Faculty and Professor
> Azusa Pacific University
> Marshburn Library, 105
>
> (626) 815-6000, ext. 3255
> dharme...@apu.edu
>
> Maximizer • Strategic • Learner • Achiever • Belief
>
>