Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SIP authentication

2018-03-02 Thread Holly Brennan
We use SIP authentication for any online resource that is set up to handle it 
(Overdrive, Lynda.com) as well as in-house for our computer management system 
(formally Envisionware, currently CASSIE from Librarica), our wireless 
internet, and WorldCat.

We control the "block" levels in Evergreen using Group Policy Thresholds. For 
example, with patrons who exceed $10 in fines the PATRON_EXCEEDS_FINES penalty 
is applied. In addition to a few other policies that rarely go into effect, 
expired accounts are also blocked (great way to get someone to let us know 
their new address).

I can't recall ever having a problem with SIP authentication going wrong in 
Evergreen. It's pretty great! (IP authentication seems to always have issues 
with addresses changing, vendors simply losing them or getting the addresses 
confused...) The effort to get SIP set up is definitely worth it.

-Holly


Holly Brennan
Technology Specialist
Homer Public Library
Homer, Alaska

hbren...@cityofhomer-ak.gov
907-435-3154 (direct)
907-235-3180 (main desk)



From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Diane 
Disbro
Sent: Friday, March 2, 2018 7:59 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SIP authentication

Good morning -

Do you block patrons with fines/expired accounts from using your online 
resources? How do you accomplish that?

We recently found out that our patrons with fines/expired accounts are using 
our resources and neither our IT department nor the vendors we have contacted 
know how to prevent that from happening.

Thank you.

Diane Disbro
Branch Manager/Circulation Coordinator
Union Branch
Scenic Regional Library
308 Hawthorne Drive
Union, MO 63084
(636) 583-3224
www.scenicregional.org<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.scenicregional.org=E,1,dN2OQ1-o2Ivv4g5gAA0FBunmzBUnKejU1laA8LTCG3xoGvHAk-HxFMuEyc1hx88PJquPuUjZz0On4Z5e7VtprJAg4L3Rnk_NEhQ607vDKNf3eNI,=1>



Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SIP authentication

2018-03-02 Thread Josh Stompro
Hello Diane,   Our EG/SIPServer setup does include patron expiration info, and 
how much the user owes.  That can be used by the vendor to block access based 
on the account being expired and owing more than a certain amount.  But the 
vendor that is using SIP2 to authenticate has to handle that logic on their 
end.  The sip response just sends the data about blocks in the message.

It looks like the AF field also get set to blocked as well as the expiration 
date being sent in the PA field in the case of the account being expired.

In the case of owing too much, the AF field again is set to "blocked" and the 
BV field has the total owed.

So all they should have to do is look for AF = blocked and then refuse the 
authentication request.  It seems like if you give them a few example test 
accounts they should be able to figure it out.

That said, you may still run into vendors that refuse to handle things 
correctly on their end.  You could also look into modifying the SIPServer 
software to short circuit the patron info/patron status responses.  We just did 
something similar to keep patrons in certain profile groups from logging into 
certain services.  OCLC refused our request for them to make use of the 
permission group info that gets sent along with the 64 patron status response, 
so we had to handle it on our end.  I can give you details on the changes we 
made if you want to go down that route.

Josh Stompro - LARL IT Director

From: Open-ils-general 
[mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Diane 
Disbro
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 10:59 AM
To: Evergreen Discussion Group <open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org>
Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SIP authentication

Good morning -

Do you block patrons with fines/expired accounts from using your online 
resources? How do you accomplish that?

We recently found out that our patrons with fines/expired accounts are using 
our resources and neither our IT department nor the vendors we have contacted 
know how to prevent that from happening.

Thank you.

Diane Disbro
Branch Manager/Circulation Coordinator
Union Branch
Scenic Regional Library
308 Hawthorne Drive
Union, MO 63084
(636) 583-3224
www.scenicregional.org<http://www.scenicregional.org>



[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] SIP authentication

2018-03-02 Thread Diane Disbro
Good morning -

 

Do you block patrons with fines/expired accounts from using your online
resources? How do you accomplish that?

 

We recently found out that our patrons with fines/expired accounts are using
our resources and neither our IT department nor the vendors we have
contacted know how to prevent that from happening.

 

Thank you.

 

Diane Disbro

Branch Manager/Circulation Coordinator

Union Branch

Scenic Regional Library

308 Hawthorne Drive

Union, MO 63084

(636) 583-3224

www.scenicregional.org