SV: Guideline Definition Language (GDL) specifications and GDL-editor release announcement
Hi Rong, Congratulations with this very good work. It is one of the missing links in OpenEHR, and people in the company I work for, and I are very enthusiast about the your (and Cambio) approach in this work. We will study it carefully because we are seriously considering implementation. regards Bert Verhees On 03/19/2013 10:45 AM, Rong Chen wrote: Thanks, Sebastian! It will be exciting to see GDL rules are hosted by CKM alongside with archetypes, templates and refsets. Regarding your questions, 1)There are several things to be synchronized with the main stream openEHR artefacts regarding namespace, identification schemes, version/revision semantics etc. GDL rules should use the same design for all other openEHR artefacts. For short term, I would suggest we always assume that the latest revision of the archetype in CKM is the one referred by the GDL rules. 2)YES, that's definitely our goal to merge the changes necessary for the GDL work back to openEHR java trunk. Sorry that we missed that message in our GDL announcement (we initially thought about mentioning it). As you rightly pointed out, the differences are small so the merge would be straight forward. In fact, the easiest way to do is perhaps to copy the java-openehr branch from gdl-tools repository back to the trunk of ref-java, then add what has been added (mostly by you I guess) to the public trunk since we branched about a year ago. Cheers, Rong Rong Chen, MD, PhD CMIO, Director of Health Informatics +46 8 691 49 81 *Cambio+ **Healthcare Systems AB* Stockholm: Ringv?gen 100. SE-118 60 Stockholm Vx: +46 8 691 49 00 | Fax: +46 8 691 49 99 Link?ping: Brigadgatan 14. SE-587 58 Link?ping Vx: +46 13 20 03 00 | Fax: +46 13 20 03 99 Epost: info at cambio.se | Hemsida:www.cambio.se *Fr?n:*Sebastian Garde [mailto:sebastian.garde at gmail.com] *F?r *Sebastian Garde *Skickat:* den 19 mars 2013 10:26 *Till:* For openEHR technical discussions *Kopia:* Rong Chen *?mne:* Re: Guideline Definition Language (GDL) specifications and GDL-editor release announcement Hi Rong, Great work! As discussed at the last MIE, I am very fond of this as well. Two questions: 1. Is there a way in GDL to define the archetype that is used more precisely than 'just' the archetype id? In CKM, there would be several revisions of the archetype and it may be important to know which of these the GDL refers to. This may require openEHR archetype revisioning and possibly namespacing to be finalised first, of course. 2. I see that you are using a 1.0.3 Snapshot of the general openEHR RM java libs. I compared it with the current trunk of the java libs and it seems there are not many differences. Some where the openEHR trunk has moved on a bit, and very few places like the DADLBinding class where your 1.0.3 snapshot has been extended. Do you think this could and should be merged with the general java libs again? Cheers Sebastian On 12.03.2013 13:37, Rong Chen wrote: Hi Sam and all, Thanks for the positive feedbacks so far. We really appreciate that. Personally I am very fond of the idea to host GDL rules in CKM. CKM's support of change management, distributed review, indexing and search, translation and release sets management (including archetypes/templates, rules and term refsets) will immediately benefit the development of rules. Cheers, Rong Rong Chen, MD, PhD CMIO, Director of Health Informatics +46 8 691 49 81 cid:image001.png at 01CE14CE.DC7B4E10 *Cambio+ **Healthcare Systems AB*** Stockholm: Ringv?gen 100. SE-118 60 Stockholm Vx: +46 8 691 49 00 | Fax: +46 8 691 49 99 Link?ping: Brigadgatan 14. SE-587 58 Link?ping Vx: +46 13 20 03 00 | Fax: +46 13 20 03 99 Epost: info at cambio.se mailto:info at cambio.se| Hemsida:www.cambio.se *From:*openEHR-implementers [mailto:openehr-implementers-bounces at lists.openehr.org] *On Behalf Of *Sam Heard *Sent:* 11 March 2013 22:04 *To:* For openEHR technical discussions; openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org mailto:openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org; openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org mailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org *Subject:* RE: Guideline Definition Language (GDL) specifications and GDL-editor release announcement Congratulations Ring Thanks for taking such a great leading position with openEHR, which only gets stronger with time. We need to think about how to integrate this in the CKM space so the rules can be shared when appropriate. Cheers Sam Dr Sam Heard FRACGP, MRCGP, DRCOG, FACHI Chairman, Ocean Informatics Chairman, openEHR Foundation Chairman, NTGPE +61417838808 *From: *Rong
SV: Guideline Definition Language (GDL) specifications and GDL-editor release announcement
Thanks, Sebastian! It will be exciting to see GDL rules are hosted by CKM alongside with archetypes, templates and refsets. Regarding your questions, 1) There are several things to be synchronized with the main stream openEHR artefacts regarding namespace, identification schemes, version/revision semantics etc. GDL rules should use the same design for all other openEHR artefacts. For short term, I would suggest we always assume that the latest revision of the archetype in CKM is the one referred by the GDL rules. 2) YES, that?s definitely our goal to merge the changes necessary for the GDL work back to openEHR java trunk. Sorry that we missed that message in our GDL announcement (we initially thought about mentioning it). As you rightly pointed out, the differences are small so the merge would be straight forward. In fact, the easiest way to do is perhaps to copy the java-openehr branch from gdl-tools repository back to the trunk of ref-java, then add what has been added (mostly by you I guess) to the public trunk since we branched about a year ago. Cheers, Rong Rong Chen, MD, PhD CMIO, Director of Health Informatics +46 8 691 49 81 Cambio+ Healthcare Systems AB Stockholm: Ringv?gen 100. SE-118 60 Stockholm Vx: +46 8 691 49 00 | Fax: +46 8 691 49 99 Link?ping: Brigadgatan 14. SE-587 58 Link?ping Vx: +46 13 20 03 00 | Fax: +46 13 20 03 99 Epost: info at cambio.se | Hemsida:www.cambio.se Fr?n: Sebastian Garde [mailto:sebastian.garde at gmail.com] F?r Sebastian Garde Skickat: den 19 mars 2013 10:26 Till: For openEHR technical discussions Kopia: Rong Chen ?mne: Re: Guideline Definition Language (GDL) specifications and GDL-editor release announcement Hi Rong, Great work! As discussed at the last MIE, I am very fond of this as well. Two questions: 1. Is there a way in GDL to define the archetype that is used more precisely than 'just' the archetype id? In CKM, there would be several revisions of the archetype and it may be important to know which of these the GDL refers to. This may require openEHR archetype revisioning and possibly namespacing to be finalised first, of course. 2. I see that you are using a 1.0.3 Snapshot of the general openEHR RM java libs. I compared it with the current trunk of the java libs and it seems there are not many differences. Some where the openEHR trunk has moved on a bit, and very few places like the DADLBinding class where your 1.0.3 snapshot has been extended. Do you think this could and should be merged with the general java libs again? Cheers Sebastian On 12.03.2013 13:37, Rong Chen wrote: Hi Sam and all, Thanks for the positive feedbacks so far. We really appreciate that. Personally I am very fond of the idea to host GDL rules in CKM. CKM?s support of change management, distributed review, indexing and search, translation and release sets management (including archetypes/templates, rules and term refsets) will immediately benefit the development of rules. Cheers, Rong Rong Chen, MD, PhD CMIO, Director of Health Informatics +46 8 691 49 81 Cambio+ Healthcare Systems AB Stockholm: Ringv?gen 100. SE-118 60 Stockholm Vx: +46 8 691 49 00 | Fax: +46 8 691 49 99 Link?ping: Brigadgatan 14. SE-587 58 Link?ping Vx: +46 13 20 03 00 | Fax: +46 13 20 03 99 Epost: info at cambio.semailto:info at cambio.se | Hemsida:www.cambio.se From: openEHR-implementers [mailto:openehr-implementers-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Sam Heard Sent: 11 March 2013 22:04 To: For openEHR technical discussions; openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.orgmailto:openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org; openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.orgmailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org Subject: RE: Guideline Definition Language (GDL) specifications and GDL-editor release announcement Congratulations Ring Thanks for taking such a great leading position with openEHR, which only gets stronger with time. We need to think about how to integrate this in the CKM space so the rules can be shared when appropriate. Cheers Sam Dr Sam Heard FRACGP, MRCGP, DRCOG, FACHI Chairman, Ocean Informatics Chairman, openEHR Foundation Chairman, NTGPE +61417838808 From: Rong Chenmailto:rong.c...@cambio.se Sent: ?12/?03/?2013 1:28 AM To: openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.orgmailto:openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org; openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.orgmailto:openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org; openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.orgmailto:openehr-implementers at lists.openehr.org Subject: Guideline Definition Language (GDL) specifications and GDL-editor release announcement Dear all, We are pleased to announce the immediate availability of the design specifications of Guideline Definition Language (GDL) and its reference implementation under open source software licenses. GDL is formal language designed to express and to share Clinical Decision Support rules across language and technical barriers by leveraging
