Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Great ideas for OpenSolaris participation in the Google Summer of Code, guys. The list of participating organizations at Google's site is growing, but so far OpenSolaris is not approved yet. I think we need one page to list all these project ideas to show Google what we have to offer (many organizations are doing this). Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I put up some content and a basic structure (follow the structure or dump it for a better one :) ... it's just a start) and some placeholders for more projects and ideas. Cut/paste your best ideas up there and we'll see if we can get all this content out of the lists and on the wiki at this point. Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 19:34, Jim Grisanzio wrote: Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I accidentally went to www.genuix.org. Hm. A couple of points: I'm not sure that content or marketing count. Or localization/i18n. Google explicitly rule out documentation projects, at any rate. It's all about actually writing code. I agree with Tom about the value of extending something like Chime. (Or even doing jkstat properly.) Generally, graphical interfaces to observability tools are an area where relatively little work has been done. Not only that, the work is reasonably self-contained and would make nice projects with a good chance of completion that could add considerable value. -- -Peter Tribble L.I.S., University of Hertfordshire - http://www.herts.ac.uk/ http://www.petertribble.co.uk/ - http://ptribble.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
On 4/20/06, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great ideas for OpenSolaris participation in the Google Summer of Code, guys. The list of participating organizations at Google's site is growing, but so far OpenSolaris is not approved yet. I think we need one page to list all these project ideas to show Google what we have to offer (many organizations are doing this). Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I put up some content and a basic structure (follow the structure or dump it for a better one :) ... it's just a start) and some placeholders for more projects and ideas. [I'm currently at Google in the OSPO office which is running SoC.] Google has not received any Summer of Code mentor org applications from OpenSolaris. Who sent the email application to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do we know when it was sent? (We have seen applications for Nexenta and Genesi.) Applications close on Monday, but it's very tight as is at this late date. Thanks! -- justin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/20/06, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great ideas for OpenSolaris participation in the Google Summer of Code, guys. The list of participating organizations at Google's site is growing, but so far OpenSolaris is not approved yet. I think we need one page to list all these project ideas to show Google what we have to offer (many organizations are doing this). Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I put up some content and a basic structure (follow the structure or dump it for a better one :) ... it's just a start) and some placeholders for more projects and ideas. [I'm currently at Google in the OSPO office which is running SoC.] Google has not received any Summer of Code mentor org applications from OpenSolaris. Who sent the email application to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do we know when it was sent? (We have seen applications for Nexenta and Genesi.) Applications close on Monday, but it's very tight as is at this late date. Thanks, Justin. My understanding is that Simon Phipps has applied for Sun's projects and that he's been interacting with Google. I've cc'd him here. Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
On 4/20/06, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Justin. My understanding is that Simon Phipps has applied for Sun's projects and that he's been interacting with Google. I've cc'd him here. The right folks on Google's end are looking into this. Thanks! -- justin ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Peter Tribble wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 19:34, Jim Grisanzio wrote: Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I accidentally went to www.genuix.org. Hm. A couple of points: I'm not sure that content or marketing count. Or localization/i18n. Google explicitly rule out documentation projects, at any rate. It's all about actually writing code. I see that, thanks Peter. They say: While we greatly appreciate the value of documentation, this program is an exercise in developing code; we can't accept proposals for documentation-only work at this time. So, if that's the case, fine. But if writing some sort of documentation (or article, or whatever) could be *part* of a coding project, then I think we'd be more than happy to get involved and help. I'm just trying to get a wide diversity of projects offered. Also, regarding marketing. Yes, I agree. I think Tim sees that too and he addresses it here: http://opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=33341tstart=0 He's suggesting creating module here so perhaps that would qualify. Again, just flushing out some ideas. I see that Chandan has put up some stuff for OpenGrok and there's some tools and performance ideas up there now too. I put Tom's Chime content up there as well. Thanks, Jim I agree with Tom about the value of extending something like Chime. (Or even doing jkstat properly.) Generally, graphical interfaces to observability tools are an area where relatively little work has been done. Not only that, the work is reasonably self-contained and would make nice projects with a good chance of completion that could add considerable value. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Jim wrote: snip But if writing some sort of documentation (or article, or whatever) could be *part* of a coding project, then I think we'd be more than happy to get involved and help. /snip Ditto from the docs community, we'd like to help other students to learn from the work that happens this summer by documenting it in the student and instructor guides that serve the great edu community. I've added my other ideas to the wiki also, just in case. -Michelle X-Original-To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Delivered-To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 17:41:57 -0700 From: Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation To: Peter Tribble [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, ja User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS i86pc; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050925 Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org X-BeenThere: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 List-Id: General OpenSolaris Discussion List opensolaris-discuss.opensolaris.org List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-discuss, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] e List-Archive: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/opensolaris-discuss List-Post: mailto:opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/opensolaris-discuss, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Tribble wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 19:34, Jim Grisanzio wrote: Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I accidentally went to www.genuix.org. Hm. A couple of points: I'm not sure that content or marketing count. Or localization/i18n. Google explicitly rule out documentation projects, at any rate. It's all about actually writing code. I see that, thanks Peter. They say: While we greatly appreciate the value of documentation, this program is an exercise in developing code; we can't accept proposals for documentation-only work at this time. So, if that's the case, fine. But if writing some sort of documentation (or article, or whatever) could be *part* of a coding project, then I think we'd be more than happy to get involved and help. I'm just trying to get a wide diversity of projects offered. Also, regarding marketing. Yes, I agree. I think Tim sees that too and he addresses it here: http://opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=33341tstart=0 He's suggesting creating module here so perhaps that would qualify. Again, just flushing out some ideas. I see that Chandan has put up some stuff for OpenGrok and there's some tools and performance ideas up there now too. I put Tom's Chime content up there as well. Thanks, Jim I agree with Tom about the value of extending something like Chime. (Or even doing jkstat properly.) Generally, graphical interfaces to observability tools are an area where relatively little work has been done. Not only that, the work is reasonably self-contained and would make nice projects with a good chance of completion that could add considerable value. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html I am sure OpenSolaris based distributions like SchilliX, Nexenta and BeleniX would have a lot of projects to offer. I just spoke to Moinak, he is keen on putting BeleniX in the event. ~Joe ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Sounds like fun. I'm the Chime project owner, and I think Chime is a good fit for a student who likes programming in Java. It's a new project, so there's lots of ways it can be improved :-) For example - A student interested in data visualization could gain experience with JFreeChart, a SourceForge project used by Chime, and design some new display types besides the existing bar and line graphs. - There's a client/server prototype optionally used by Chime that someone could replace with JMX or cacao or something that supports user authentication, etc. - Chime needs a wizard or Netbeans-style property editor for creating new displays (a good chance to get familiar with XML). - Chime needs a way to playback XML recordings without having to decode an entire file into memory all at once. - Someone might want to make Chime run in a web browser. - A new set of displays designed specifically to answer questions about one aspect of the system could be an interesting project, possibly resulting in a new tool separate from Chime. - More ways to rearrange D programs (or create new D programs) in response to GUI gestures could make Chime better at answering questions. Specific dtrace(1M) use cases could provide a useful starting point for someone to make Chime follow the same steps more easily. The Chime project will be a good introduction to DTrace. Some of the ideas above may require expertise from the community or a more specific problem statement. Anyone who has tried the tool and has a suggestion, please share it. Another idea: Peter Tribble in the observability community has done some cool work with kstats: http://www.petertribble.co.uk/Solaris/jkstat.html Someone could build on that to solve a specific observability problem. Let me know if you'd like me to mock up a Summer of Code page under the Chime project. Thanks, Tom On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 12:19:13PM -0700, Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we want to participate, though. My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students to those participating projects. That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. Best, Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
- A student interested in data visualization could gain experience with JFreeChart, a SourceForge project used by Chime, and design some new display types besides the existing bar and line graphs. - There's a client/server prototype optionally used by Chime that someone could replace with JMX or cacao or something that supports user authentication, etc. - Chime needs a wizard or Netbeans-style property editor for creating new displays (a good chance to get familiar with XML). - Chime needs a way to playback XML recordings without having to decode an entire file into memory all at once. - Someone might want to make Chime run in a web browser. - A new set of displays designed specifically to answer questions about one aspect of the system could be an interesting project, possibly resulting in a new tool separate from Chime. - More ways to rearrange D programs (or create new D programs) in response to GUI gestures could make Chime better at answering questions. Specific dtrace(1M) use cases could provide a useful starting point for someone to make Chime follow the same steps more easily. The Chime project will be a good introduction to DTrace. Some of the ideas above may require expertise from the community or a more specific problem statement. Anyone who has tried the tool and has a suggestion, please share it. better tooling/visualization on top of DTrace is definitely worth a project, IMO. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Dan Price wrote: I don't see why there has to be a 1:1 mapping between opensolaris projects and SoC ideas. No need at all, really. I just tossed that out as a starter because we already have 40 communities and 20 projects going and those leaders may want/need help from student developers on various things within their projects. Ultimately, anyone who gets involved from the OpenSolaris community will have to identify projects they are willing to offer and then mentor the students through the process. Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
The Chime project will be a good introduction to DTrace. Some of the ideas above may require expertise from the community or a more specific problem statement. Anyone who has tried the tool and has a suggestion, please share it. better tooling/visualization on top of DTrace is definitely worth a project, IMO. Took the words right out of my mouth. I have the 400+ page Solaris Dynamic Tracing Guide here ( part number 817-6223-10 ) and it is a super tough read. A slick graphical interface written with OpenGL in mind would really rock with the NVidia framebuffers. I was trying to visualize a 3D data set in which the user wandered from node to node and then could query these nodes for data elements by entering the node. Sort of a spin on the scene from Johnny Mnemonic except with real data. An RPC layer would allow data collection from remote servers/hosts. Then gain .. I was merely thinking of it with my Mark Kilgard OpenGL for X book here in hand. Dennis ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
The Content Project would like to offer our services to this effort. We could potentially mentor a student working on some coding project in one of the other projects or communities. Perhaps that student could write up something on the subject and go through the peer-review process for an article or presentation. Perhaps a student could work on some translations of existing articles, etc. We'll be there to help. Jim Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we want to participate, though. My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students to those participating projects. That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. Best, Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Tom Erickson wrote: Sounds like fun. I'm the Chime project owner, and I think Chime is a good fit for a student who likes programming in Java. It's a new project, so there's lots of ways it can be improved :-) For example - A student interested in data visualization could gain experience with JFreeChart, a SourceForge project used by Chime, and design some new display types besides the existing bar and line graphs. - There's a client/server prototype optionally used by Chime that someone could replace with JMX or cacao or something that supports user authentication, etc. - Chime needs a wizard or Netbeans-style property editor for creating new displays (a good chance to get familiar with XML). - Chime needs a way to playback XML recordings without having to decode an entire file into memory all at once. - Someone might want to make Chime run in a web browser. - A new set of displays designed specifically to answer questions about one aspect of the system could be an interesting project, possibly resulting in a new tool separate from Chime. - More ways to rearrange D programs (or create new D programs) in response to GUI gestures could make Chime better at answering questions. Specific dtrace(1M) use cases could provide a useful starting point for someone to make Chime follow the same steps more easily. The Chime project will be a good introduction to DTrace. Some of the ideas above may require expertise from the community or a more specific problem statement. Anyone who has tried the tool and has a suggestion, please share it. Another idea: Peter Tribble in the observability community has done some cool work with kstats: http://www.petertribble.co.uk/Solaris/jkstat.html Someone could build on that to solve a specific observability problem. Let me know if you'd like me to mock up a Summer of Code page under the Chime project. This is excellent. Thanks, Tom. There's also some conversation on the marketing list with some ideas. Perhaps we should start putting all the suggestions from the lists on a page or a wiki site so we can easily point to it? Anyone want to take a stab at that? Once we are approved, Derek said he'd put a box on the front page of opensolaris.org pointing to all the contributing projects. Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Michael Pogue wrote: I'm not suggesting a new OpenSolaris Project, although that would certainly be one way to do it. I'm just suggesting a Google Summer of Code project. Ok, that seems reasonable. It doesn't have to be tied to something we already have set up. If it ends up being just one Summer of Code student that takes this on, then a full-blown OpenSolaris Project for one person might be overkill. Instead, maybe that student could be participant in a thread in the OpenSolaris Tools community, or perhaps the Performance community (or both). Yes, I think we'll have to write up some instructions for these guys to get involved. I'll start on that. Jim Jim Grisanzio wrote: Michael Pogue wrote: I have a suggestion: in another current thread, Build times for Open Solaris, there's discussion about build parallelism on a Niagara (T1000), and how we don't get much benefit in build time beyond 4 CPUs. I think that it would be a great Summer of Code project, to investigate what it would take to get full utilization (32 CPU's) on a T1000 building Open Solaris. And then, contribute the changes back to OpenSolaris, speeding up the build process for everybody (who has access to multi-cpu hardware). So, in this instance, you are suggesting an entirely new project, correct? If so, a new project will have to be proposed and seconded. Is this something you are proposing? In addition to suggestions for new projects, I'm especially interested in hearing from our existing projects to see what they plan to offer. Thanks, Mike. Jim It wouldn't require deep knowledge of the internals of Solaris, so the barrier to entry is not high. And, it's a chance to play around with some really cool hardware (pun intentional :-). Mike Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we want to participate, though. My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students to those participating projects. That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. Best, Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
MP == Michael Pogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MP I think that it would be a great Summer of Code project, to MP investigate what it would take to get full utilization (32 CPU's) on MP a T1000 building Open Solaris. And then, contribute the changes MP back to OpenSolaris, speeding up the build process for everybody MP (who has access to multi-cpu hardware). MP It wouldn't require deep knowledge of the internals of Solaris, so MP the barrier to entry is not high. Having recently made some non-trivial changes to the ON build, I'd like to inject a note of caution here. I agree that changing the build to increase parallelism does not require deep knowledge of Solaris internals. But it *does* require some ability to deal with large bodies of code. And it will likely require quite a bit of patience (e.g., untangling implicit build dependencies). I think the project is worth proposing, but let's make sure we manage it in a way that encourages success. cheers, mike ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Jim, I18n community could potentially offer some localization projects. Localization includes translation (from English to various languages) and functional/linguistic testing. Any subset thereof or all can be potential projects, if students are interested. There wasn't a detailed discussion on our end, though. So which language, if translation, or what areas of testing, etc. could be determined when and if L10n is selected as a project. Young ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Young Song wrote: Jim, I18n community could potentially offer some localization projects. Localization includes translation (from English to various languages) and functional/linguistic testing. Any subset thereof or all can be potential projects, if students are interested. Excellent, thank you. Hopefully we'll get some translations of articles as well that we can help people with. There wasn't a detailed discussion on our end, though. So which language, if translation, or what areas of testing, etc. could be determined when and if L10n is selected as a project. Not a problem. We just need to get our ideas flushed out first. The more ideas the better (as long as each idea/project has a mentor to work with the student). Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we want to participate, though. My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students to those participating projects. That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. Best, Jim -- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Michael Pogue wrote: I have a suggestion: in another current thread, Build times for Open Solaris, there's discussion about build parallelism on a Niagara (T1000), and how we don't get much benefit in build time beyond 4 CPUs. I just retracted that statement... It does improve with more parallelism, for instance moving to 16 jobs reduces the build time by half an hour. Increasing parallelism further shows only slight improvement. Still, investigating what could be done to further improve would be a nice project. Menno ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Hi Mike, This looks to be a good project. Student should get access to T1000 box. Which group within Sun can give T1000 access to student? thanks M.Sridhar Michael Pogue wrote On 04/17/06 01:59 PM,: I have a suggestion: in another current thread, Build times for Open Solaris, there's discussion about build parallelism on a Niagara (T1000), and how we don't get much benefit in build time beyond 4 CPUs. I think that it would be a great Summer of Code project, to investigate what it would take to get full utilization (32 CPU's) on a T1000 building Open Solaris. And then, contribute the changes back to OpenSolaris, speeding up the build process for everybody (who has access to multi-cpu hardware). It wouldn't require deep knowledge of the internals of Solaris, so the barrier to entry is not high. And, it's a chance to play around with some really cool hardware (pun intentional :-). Mike Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we want to participate, though. My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students to those participating projects. That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. Best, Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Michael Pogue wrote: I have a suggestion: in another current thread, Build times for Open Solaris, there's discussion about build parallelism on a Niagara (T1000), and how we don't get much benefit in build time beyond 4 CPUs. I think that it would be a great Summer of Code project, to investigate what it would take to get full utilization (32 CPU's) on a T1000 building Open Solaris. And then, contribute the changes back to OpenSolaris, speeding up the build process for everybody (who has access to multi-cpu hardware). So, in this instance, you are suggesting an entirely new project, correct? If so, a new project will have to be proposed and seconded. Is this something you are proposing? In addition to suggestions for new projects, I'm especially interested in hearing from our existing projects to see what they plan to offer. Thanks, Mike. Jim It wouldn't require deep knowledge of the internals of Solaris, so the barrier to entry is not high. And, it's a chance to play around with some really cool hardware (pun intentional :-). Mike Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we want to participate, though. My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students to those participating projects. That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. Best, Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
On Mon 17 Apr 2006 at 02:24PM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: Michael Pogue wrote: I have a suggestion: in another current thread, Build times for Open Solaris, there's discussion about build parallelism on a Niagara (T1000), and how we don't get much benefit in build time beyond 4 CPUs. I think that it would be a great Summer of Code project, to investigate what it would take to get full utilization (32 CPU's) on a T1000 building Open Solaris. And then, contribute the changes back to OpenSolaris, speeding up the build process for everybody (who has access to multi-cpu hardware). So, in this instance, you are suggesting an entirely new project, correct? If so, a new project will have to be proposed and seconded. Is this something you are proposing? In addition to suggestions for new projects, I'm especially interested in hearing from our existing projects to see what they plan to offer. I don't see why there has to be a 1:1 mapping between opensolaris projects and SoC ideas. -dp -- Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - blogs.sun.com/dp ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
I'm not suggesting a new OpenSolaris Project, although that would certainly be one way to do it. I'm just suggesting a Google Summer of Code project. If it ends up being just one Summer of Code student that takes this on, then a full-blown OpenSolaris Project for one person might be overkill. Instead, maybe that student could be participant in a thread in the OpenSolaris Tools community, or perhaps the Performance community (or both). Mike Jim Grisanzio wrote: Michael Pogue wrote: I have a suggestion: in another current thread, Build times for Open Solaris, there's discussion about build parallelism on a Niagara (T1000), and how we don't get much benefit in build time beyond 4 CPUs. I think that it would be a great Summer of Code project, to investigate what it would take to get full utilization (32 CPU's) on a T1000 building Open Solaris. And then, contribute the changes back to OpenSolaris, speeding up the build process for everybody (who has access to multi-cpu hardware). So, in this instance, you are suggesting an entirely new project, correct? If so, a new project will have to be proposed and seconded. Is this something you are proposing? In addition to suggestions for new projects, I'm especially interested in hearing from our existing projects to see what they plan to offer. Thanks, Mike. Jim It wouldn't require deep knowledge of the internals of Solaris, so the barrier to entry is not high. And, it's a chance to play around with some really cool hardware (pun intentional :-). Mike Jim Grisanzio wrote: hey, guys. Google has announced its 2006 Summer of Code: http://code.google.com/summerofcode.html This is the second summer where Google has engaged student developers worldwide to participate on a variety of open source projects under this mentoring program. OpenSolaris has applied to be one of those mentoring communities. It's a great way for us to contribute to the greater open source community, while at the same time providing us the opportunity to meet new developers -- especially students -- in new areas. See the details (especially question #2) about mentoring: http://code.google.com/soc/mentorfaq.html With more than 40 communities and more than 20 projects I think we have more than enough to offer as this point. I'd like to get a thread started here for possible project ideas. We need to act quickly if we want to participate, though. My initial thought: I think the easiest way to participate is for the OpenSolaris project owners http://www.opensolaris.org/os/projects to be mentors (or identify mentors) to these new student developers. Perhaps we could flush out some ideas in this thread and then the interested projects/owners can mock up their project pages with a Summer of Code section with some items the students can work on. We can then add a box to the front page directing Summer of Code students to those participating projects. That part is easy. The question is this, though: are there any OpenSolaris projects interested in engaging these students in Google's Summer of code? If so, let's talk about what we could offer. I'll collect the ideas and feed them into our application process. Please feel free to forward to any list you think appropriate. Best, Jim ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation
Jim Grisanzio wrote: Michael Pogue wrote: I have a suggestion: in another current thread, Build times for Open Solaris, there's discussion about build parallelism on a Niagara (T1000), and how we don't get much benefit in build time beyond 4 CPUs. I think that it would be a great Summer of Code project, to investigate what it would take to get full utilization (32 CPU's) on a T1000 building Open Solaris. And then, contribute the changes back to OpenSolaris, speeding up the build process for everybody (who has access to multi-cpu hardware). So, in this instance, you are suggesting an entirely new project, correct? If so, a new project will have to be proposed and seconded. Is this something you are proposing? It sounds like a task for the ONNV project (the one incorrectly labeled as the Nevada project on the current website), not something that needs new project framework set up. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
