[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Вообще странно знать, что Вы не должны менять permissions в OpenSolaris - открытой системе! ;) Ещё более непонятно ограничения для суперпользователя! Для чего тогда он нужен? Если devfs живёт по своим законам, то всёравно должен быть способ этим управлять, потому что человек глобалнее чем машина. Я кстати понимаю что тут серьёзные вещи обсуждаются, но почему бы легко не разрешить мою причуду, Advanced Users? chmod -R 755 /dev Access Denide :( SunOS 5.1 Belenix This message posted from opensolaris.org___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Вообще странно знать, что Вы не должны менять permissions в OpenSolaris - открытой системе! ;) Ещё более непонятно ограничения для суперпользователя! Для чего тогда он нужен? Если devfs живёт по своим законам, то всёравно должен быть способ этим управлять, потому что человек глобалнее чем машина. Я кстати понимаю что тут серьёзные вещи обсуждаются, но почему бы легко не разрешить мою причуду, Advanced Users? chmod -R 755 /dev Access Denide :( SunOS 5.1 Belenix First of all, if you change permissions of /dev, you're asking for trouble, and will possibly damage your operating system. Second, you haven't answered my question, why is it that you want to this? It is completely unnecessary. Third, if the /dev is mounted ro (read only), you can attempt to change the permissions until you are blue in the face and the system will simply refuse every time. /dev must be mounted rw (read/write) for this to have any chance of success. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
2007/6/8, Семёнов Владимир Викторович [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Вообще странно знать, что Вы не должны менять permissions в OpenSolaris - открытой системе! ;) Ещё более непонятно ограничения для суперпользователя! Для чего тогда он нужен? Если devfs живёт по своим законам, то всёравно должен быть способ этим управлять, потому что человек глобалнее чем машина. Я кстати понимаю что тут серьёзные вещи обсуждаются, но почему бы легко не разрешить мою причуду, Advanced Users? This is an open list, and its official language is English, please, avoid the use of different languages so everyone in the list can understand what you say. -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Семёнов Владимир Викторович wrote: Вообще странно знать, что Вы не должны менять permissions в OpenSolaris - открытой системе! ;) Ещё более непонятно ограничения для суперпользователя! Для чего тогда он нужен? Если devfs живёт по своим законам, то всёравно должен быть способ этим управлять, потому что человек глобалнее чем машина. Я кстати понимаю что тут серьёзные вещи обсуждаются, но почему бы легко не разрешить мою причуду, Advanced Users? chmod -R 755 /dev Access Denide :( SunOS 5.1 Belenix You must be root to change the permissions. Either su to root or login as root. Paul ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
What is damageslly if /dev/fd/* will be executable!? I could wish simply set 777 anyware... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
On 6/8/07, Семёнов Владимир Викторович [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is damageslly if /dev/fd/* will be executable!? I could wish simply set 777 anyware... Frankly speaking it could be easier to run DOS in that case. The model you wish to implement is native there ... -- Regards, Cyril ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
writes:
What is damageslly if /dev/fd/* will be executable!?
I could wish simply set 777 anyware...
Why? What exactly are you trying to accomplish? What does having
mode 777 on the current process file descriptors do for you or your
application?
You'll need to explain -- in detail -- what problem it is that you're
trying to solve, or what feature it is that you want. Simply using
chmod or chown to change random system components isn't an answer.
The contents of /dev (as with all of the system directories) weren't
just thrown together at a whim. Each bit you find there was designed
that way on purpose, and there's more than meets the eye. (In
particular, the security of /dev entries is _not_ just defined by the
file modes. Each driver also implements local policy, because devices
tend to be 'special.' Thus, changing the file mode is only rarely the
right answer.)
Sure, it's remotely possible that there are mistakes of one sort or
another, or that there are oversights, or new features that could be
added, but unless you explain what goal you're trying to reach, I
doubt that anyone can provide any coherent advice -- other than just
don't.
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Re: [osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Семёнов Владимир Викторович wrote: What is damageslly if /dev/fd/* will be executable!? I could wish simply set 777 anyware... Nothing, because as soon as the chmod command exits, it will be reset - /dev/fd/* is not real devices, but the open file descriptors of the process looking at /dev/fd/*. (It should really be in /proc, but I believe predates the current /proc.) -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Why You say that Solaris work with SATA?... Really I install Belenix in my IDE. first IDE = has been updated to raid stripping with nForce adapt0 chennel0 first SATA = is raid with nForce adapt1 ch0 sec SATA = is raid with nForce adapt1 ch1 SunOS 5.11 saw only IDE! If I try kill a raid in the Serial ATA's disks it don't gets resultat - imho! Why SATA is working for You? Understandn't This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
offtop: with OpenBSD it's possible... chmod -777 /* - really worked! ;) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Why SATA is working for You? Understandn't Because Solaris has the drivers to drive the SATA hardware I have - in PATA emulation mode. It would seem that it has no drivers, or otherwise doesn't recognize your hardware and therefore can't see your SATA drives. What is even more strange, some of the servers I built use an NVidia nForce 4 ChipSet, and SATA works on Solaris on that hardware. Of course I don't use any BIOS RAID or any such thing. Ever. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Семёнов Владимир Викторович wrote: Why You say that Solaris work with SATA?... Really I install Belenix in my IDE. first IDE = has been updated to raid stripping with nForce adapt0 chennel0 first SATA = is raid with nForce adapt1 ch0 sec SATA = is raid with nForce adapt1 ch1 SunOS 5.11 saw only IDE! Don't use the RAID option in the BOIS. If I try kill a raid in the Serial ATA's disks it don't gets resultat - imho! Please explain that. Why SATA is working for You? Understandn't Solaris doesn't work with nForce SATA RAID (and doesn't real need it either). Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Thnx! I should have knowlege more about it? I havn't any info about my nForce4... nVidia so quiet... Only bla-bla-bla about nVidia's Video Cards everyone averywere :( This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Hello! Where is a posting for a newbies? I'm sorry! Please anybode say me howto I got to replase all of perm in my Nexenta? in /dev /devices and others!? Only need it! Any is possible modes?... You should not modify permissions of files in /dev/ and /devices/. What is it that you actually want to do? And more OpenSolaris don't working with SerialATA! It's problem! Why? SATA is actuality now ago! Solaris does work with SATA. I've built quite a few servers of my own with SATA in them and installed Solaris on them and it just worked. Not only did SATA work, SATA-II drives on Solaris are speed demons. I managed to peak them out at ~75MB/s, and considering Solaris was running in PATA emulation mode, that's some impressive I/O Solaris was pushing out of SATA-II drives. Do you have a non-onboard SATA controller in your system? But more I have IDE and SATA is starting as RAID mode stripping as separately! It's possible with nForce4 chipset! Any one volume of disks may be created as stripping array! ;) There is no need for that if you are running Solaris: ZFS has made all of that hardware RAID stuff obsolete. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
Thanks! I don't know about this link! Cool! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
You should configure all your disks to be visible as individual drives - no RAID, then you stand a chance of Solaris seeing the drives. I think troubles with sata don't with raid... raid work correctly but it's only different theme... I have work with nonstandart raid mode ;) I'ts possible with nForce chip! I create raid set for only one HDD!! Without HDD+HDD! I'st possible! I don't know how its realy work... With it no any problems, all of systems correctly starts on This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
What is it that you actually want to do? Permissions must be cheinged[i]![/i] :) What reason don't accessed by root? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
I think troubles with sata don't with raid... raid work correctly but it's only different theme... It completely irrelevant whether the hardware RAID works correctly or not. The reason why Solaris doesn't see the SATA drives is because the SATA driver for that RAID is not available. Whether that's just the case for Nexenta or Solaris is general I don't know, but the point is, the kernel doesn't have a driver which would talk to that HW RAID subsystem. That's why you don't see any of your SATA drives. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
What is it that you actually want to do? Permissions must be cheinged[i]![/i] :) What reason don't accessed by root? I wish full access to my system! I still don't understand. Which permissions must be changed? Have you somehow damaged the system, or do you mean you want to log in as root and can't? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
[osol-discuss] Re: change all permissions
The nForce4 is not hardware RAID. The RAID is performed in software by the controller's BIOS, then by a driver loaded into the operating system once booted. Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
