Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC FWIW, a formal application for trademark registration was recently (little over a week ago) filed with the CIPO (Canadian Intellectual Property Office), see: http://tinyurl.com/can1405155 Since money-expending commercial activities are involved in this move, I would interpret it as a positive news for DC and for OpenSolaris. Go Dennis! and hope more will follow! This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Dennis has apparently I am not sure what, and think you have the right idea to move it to another domain. Got me to thinking that bolthole.com would be way cool, why not use it? It is one of the oldest Solaris x86 domains on the net, AFAIK. (ie: if you have some thing vaguely resembling a datacenter phil,- bolthole.com, please :) I might have a couple old systems, I'll send an email and see if they interest you. They could get you started, though. vaguely being the keyword in your enquire. I would also need to make sure that I could send that to you. I'll follow up with an email. Cheers, And again, my vote for bolthole.com... This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Dennis Clarke wrote: Mr. Philip Brown : sniparoo Dennis, This list is not a forum to express your personal views and/or differences between you and Phil. What is between you and others, is quite honestly between you and others. Now, with that said, what's up with genunix.org? -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008, Dennis Clarke wrote: Mr. Philip Brown : sniparoo Dennis, This list is not a forum to express your personal views and/or differences between you and Phil. What is between you and others, is quite honestly between you and others. Now, with that said, what's up with genunix.org? It seems to work now. (But it wasn't a few hours ago) Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, with that said, what's up with genunix.org? It seems to work now. (But it wasn't a few hours ago) Casper Ok, it is in fact working for me. Must have been a glitch in the net or something...maybe it was that DNS bug... Good to see your name around, hope things are ok. -- Alan DuBoff - Solaris x86 IHV/OEM Group ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to work now. (But it wasn't a few hours ago) Casper Ok, it is in fact working for me. Must have been a glitch in the net or something...maybe it was that DNS bug... It worked already this morning. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to work now. (But it wasn't a few hours ago) Casper Ok, it is in fact working for me. Must have been a glitch in the net or something...maybe it was that DNS bug... It worked already this morning. Jörg Al Hopper spoke with someone in Toronto yesterday and after some other people looked at some paper they then sent instructions to me. The domains were listed in the incorporation papers of Blastwave.org in much the same way that OpenSolaris is a registered asset of Sun Microsystems Inc. Dennis ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008, Dennis Clarke wrote: Al Hopper spoke with someone in Toronto yesterday and after some other people looked at some paper they then sent instructions to me. The domains were listed in the incorporation papers of Blastwave.org in much the same way that OpenSolaris is a registered asset of Sun Microsystems Inc. This is wrong. genunix.org should not be a registered asset of Blastwave.org. Can a Canadian company hold assets in the U.S. in this capacity? Why is genunix.org listed in the incorporation papers for Blastwave? I am not a lawyer, but curious why genunix.org is tied to Blastwave. Is Blastwave funding the operation of genunix.org? I thought Al Hopper was doing that...hmmm... As a person who has provided content on genunix.org, I have concerns about that. -- Alan DuBoff - (speaking for myself, not my employer) ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Ian Collins wrote: Matthew Snyder wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC genunix.org has gone down with it. Not good. I thought genunix.org was independent of Blastwave; the mails on the subject form May/June '05 indicate that it is. I know Logical Approach supplied some of the hardware and Al Hopper was involved in commissioning the site. Maybe it's a problem with the domain ownership? I thought most of the OGB discussions, definitions and documentations where on genunix.org? ---Bob This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Chris, I'm making a huge assumption: A brave move. the website says: Legal representation for the affairs of Blastwave.org Inc. are handled by Deeth Williams Wall LLP in Toronto Canada. ( DWW.com ) dww.com http://dww.com is a trademark and patent lawyer. I have the feeling that this is what is going on. We need word from dennis as to why he needs money, and I am sure we can get the ball rolling. IANAL If DWW is indeed a trademark and patent lawyer, then you can bet your bottom that the area of contention is software distribution; and how some company's rights have allegedly been infringed by Blastwave (and other associated domains). The fact that GenUNIX is still up, running, and providing a download service confuses me. So possibly someone has accused Blastwave of distributing software that it has no right to distribute; and has lodged a case against Blastwave (against Dennis - I guess that company directors are personally liable). We in the OpenSolaris community know that Dennis has always acted in best faith; and provided a dependable service. Dennis is always in need of money ;-) And as for getting the ball rolling, the ball is rhombicosidodecahedral in nature; thus it rolls a tiny bit, then lands on a flat surface, and stalls, awaiting further impetus. We will likely not hear directly from Dennis, as all this is possibly sub judice; given the tone of the Blastwave statement. /IANAL Regards... Sean. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Ian Collins wrote: Matthew Snyder wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC genunix.org has gone down with it. Not good. I thought genunix.org was independent of Blastwave; the mails on the subject form May/June '05 indicate that it is. I know Logical Approach supplied some of the hardware and Al Hopper was involved in commissioning the site. Maybe it's a problem with the domain ownership? I agree. Maybe an investment in genunix.org.cn or genunix.org.in is in order by somebody. ---Bob This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
This isn't good. Hopefully Dennis will drop a comment our way soon. It'll be a sad day for everyone if blastwave closes permanently. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On 7/08/2008, at 8:46 PM, Bob Palowoda wrote: Maybe it's a problem with the domain ownership? I thought most of the OGB discussions, definitions and documentations where on genunix.org? They are. And I don't think genunix.org is having a problem - http://204.152.191.100/ just the domain name. I believe the actual machine that hosts it is a different service. The domain name is owned by Dennis. Glynn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Bob Palowoda wrote: I agree. Maybe an investment in genunix.org.cn or genunix.org.in is in order by somebody. I have genunix.org.nz and I can redirect the DNS record to 204.152.191.100. Ian. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blastwave mirror list: http://www.canoedissent.org.uk/mirror/status/ blastwave.berlios.de/csw/ is currently restoring from backup. It will be completely filled up again in 45 minutes again. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blastwave mirror list: http://www.canoedissent.org.uk/mirror/status/ blastwave.berlios.de/csw/ is currently restoring from backup. It will be completely filled up again in 45 minutes again. It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On 7/08/2008, at 11:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Thanks Jörg! Glynn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Thanks Jörg! You can not restore and then distribute all those binary packages unless you also have all the sources and source changes as well as the rights to infringe on both copyright and license. Which you don't. Simply be careful of what you choose to step into. Dennis Clarke ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote: blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. The restore from the blastwave.berlios.de is complete now, the restore state is the state from 2 hours before the original data went away. happy mirroring Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
I suppose you can't yet disclose what this is about then? But it sure hints at unnecessary drama by the offended party. Regards, -mg -- Via iPhone 3G On 07-août-08, at 13:34, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Thanks Jörg! You can not restore and then distribute all those binary packages unless you also have all the sources and source changes as well as the rights to infringe on both copyright and license. Which you don't. Simply be careful of what you choose to step into. Dennis Clarke ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:45 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The restore from the blastwave.berlios.de is complete now, the restore state is the state from 2 hours before the original data went away. Out of curiosity, how large is the repository? ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can not restore and then distribute all those binary packages unless you also have all the sources and source changes as well as the rights to infringe on both copyright and license. Which you don't. Simply be careful of what you choose to step into. Just a hunch, but the Coder's Rights Project or other EFF efforts may be of interest for legal assistance. http://www.eff.org/issues/coders -- Mike Gerdts http://mgerdts.blogspot.com/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On 7/08/2008, at 11:34 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Thanks Jörg! You can not restore and then distribute all those binary packages unless you also have all the sources and source changes as well as the rights to infringe on both copyright and license. Which you don't. Simply be careful of what you choose to step into. You can distribute binaries, but need to require sources *if asked* - which technically means that you can have a download site without the sources, unless you are specifically requested to provide the sources (for all binaries that have an appropriate license). I know I'm splitting hairs here, but it's an important point. Glynn ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Brandon Hume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 13:45 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: The restore from the blastwave.berlios.de is complete now, the restore state is the state from 2 hours before the original data went away. Out of curiosity, how large is the repository? ~ 14 GB Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:34 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Thanks Jörg! You can not restore and then distribute all those binary packages unless you also have all the sources and source changes as well as the rights to infringe on both copyright and license. Which you don't. Simply be careful of what you choose to step into. You can distribute binaries, but need to require sources *if asked* - which technically means that you can have a download site without the sources, unless you are specifically requested to provide the sources (for all binaries that have an appropriate license). I know I'm splitting hairs here, but it's an important point. It is. I updated the homepage. Had to phone into an office to get access and did post what I told people on the 1st of August 2008. I have to go stay quiet for a bit now. Not my nature. But I'm learing hard lessons fast. Dennis Clarke ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
--- On Thu, 8/7/08, Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info? To: Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Michael Gernoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 8:47 AM On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:34 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Thanks Jörg! You can not restore and then distribute all those binary packages unless you also have all the sources and source changes as well as the rights to infringe on both copyright and license. Which you don't. Simply be careful of what you choose to step into. You can distribute binaries, but need to require sources *if asked* - which technically means that you can have a download site without the sources, unless you are specifically requested to provide the sources (for all binaries that have an appropriate license). I know I'm splitting hairs here, but it's an important point. It is. I updated the homepage. Had to phone into an office to get access and did post what I told people on the 1st of August 2008. I have to go stay quiet for a bit now. Not my nature. But I'm learing hard lessons fast. Dennis Clarke Thank you, Dennis. You've self-funded the Blastwave ISV project for a solid 5-6 years. I'd hope to see a larger corporation sponsor or acquire the Blastwave organization, and maybe its Desktop Engineering team and package maintainers, at some level for quite some time. Yet I know the economic and political situation in North America as put many small privately-owned self-funded ISV businesses in a crisis. Businesses also face legality issues with open source package distribution laws and contractual software support agreements. Most people should understand that Blastwave.org was a financially self funded, self-sponsored, project by Dennis Clarke for the last five years. The Blastwave organization's data center and server infrastructure was entirely self-funded by Dennis with out-of-the pocket expenses from consulting contracts and some donations over the years. Any profiteering from Blastwave.org by third parties not directly involved in the actual packaging and direct maintenance or support of the packages distributing from Blastwave.org is another issue. Blastwave.org has played a major part in the Sun Solaris/OpenSolaris ecosystems of application development, software engineering, and community support - as well as user support for computer science students, scientists/engineers, and business users. Many of the current OpenSolaris disributions today actually benefitted from the help of Blastwave.org maintainers and the work being done from Blastwave.org. So I only hope we will just say THANK YOU to Dennis and the maintainer team at Blastwave.org for the many years of supporting open source packaging and support for Sun's Solaris operating systems, products, and hardware. Without Blastwave.org, the rebirth of products like Sun's Solaris x86 and possibly the entire OpenSolaris project would not be where it is today. I doubt if any credible corporation(s) can truely debate my comments based on what Blastwave.org has provided to the Solaris/OpenSolaris community over the past 5-6 years. ~ Ken Mays And we thought OpenGL on Solaris x86, desktop virtualization, PowerPC/Intel developments, advanced desktop engineering, and other subjects where just tall tales from Aesop's handbook of fables... ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
U P D A T E : Mirror Site in North America provided by Sun Microsystems Inc. -- A Primary Mirror site at http://blastwave.network.com/csw is up. OpenSolaris(tm) is available at http://blastwave.network.com/OpenSolaris OpenSolaris(tm) build 93 is at http://blastwave.network.com/OpenSolaris/update ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
From http://chrismahan.blogspot.com/2008/08/blastwave-unavailable-genunix-down.html : Update: Glynn Foster twits: seemingly dennis is tired of funding it, and some internal politics around not accepting funding offers (Glynn Foster is twitting at: http://twitter.com/glynnfoster/) Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:39 PM, andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From http://chrismahan.blogspot.com/2008/08/blastwave-unavailable-genunix-down.html : Update: Glynn Foster twits: seemingly dennis is tired of funding it, and some internal politics around not accepting funding offers That is not the case. Until you know facts do not fabricate them please. Dennis ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Collins wrote: Matthew Snyder wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC genunix.org has gone down with it. Not good. I thought genunix.org was independent of Blastwave; the mails on the subject form May/June '05 indicate that it is. I know Logical Approach Yes it is independent of Blastwave and always has been. supplied some of the hardware and Al Hopper was involved in commissioning the site. Correct (again) and you can read my (long!) blogs here: http://sol10frominnerspace.blogspot.com/2005/06/genunixorg-is-alive.html http://sol10frominnerspace.blogspot.com/2005/06/how-genunixorg-got-started-part-2-of-2.html Maybe it's a problem with the domain ownership? While we were having a discussion on what the facility might be called, someone suggested genunix, and Dennis went ahead and registered the domain name at that time, on his own initiative. At this time, all genunix.org resources are available at genunix2.org (note the 2). Regards, -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://204.152.191.100/ The wiki's gone :( It's still there: http://204.152.191.100/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Now available at: http://genunix2.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Also from the main page, now at: genunix2.org (note the 2) Now the question is: how to suck the content out... Anybody want to write a crawler pronto? or even get a sql dump? somehow? No need to panic. The site is not changing. The only issue is that the top level domain record now points to the wrong name-servers (ns?.blastwave.org). -- Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell 818.943.1850 -- Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell 818.943.1850 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Al Hopper wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Chris Mahan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Chris Mahan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Ian Collins[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://204.152.191.100/ The wiki's gone :( It's still there: http://204.152.191.100/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Now available at: http://genunix2.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Also from the main page, now at: genunix2.org (note the 2) Now the question is: how to suck the content out... Anybody want to write a crawler pronto? or even get a sql dump? somehow? No need to panic. The site is not changing. The only issue is that the top level domain record now points to the wrong name-servers (ns?.blastwave.org). Dennis, Since you registered the domain name - would you be so kind as to update the domain record to point to the original name servers? (Alternatively, assuming you run the ns?.blastwave.org servers, could you just update those to point to 204.152.191.100?) Al? Do you happen to have that name server information handy? cheers, steve -- stephen lau | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.whacked.net ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need to panic. The site is not changing. The only issue is that the top level domain record now points to the wrong name-servers (ns?.blastwave.org). I hear you. On the other hand, a community-held recent backup would be a good thing. It's called disaster recovery, and I think, in light of what's going on, it would be useful to think about that. -- Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell 818.943.1850 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:53 PM, Stephen Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Al Hopper wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Chris Mahan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Chris Mahan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Ian Collins[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://204.152.191.100/ The wiki's gone :( It's still there: http://204.152.191.100/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Now available at: http://genunix2.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Also from the main page, now at: genunix2.org (note the 2) Now the question is: how to suck the content out... Anybody want to write a crawler pronto? or even get a sql dump? somehow? No need to panic. The site is not changing. The only issue is that the top level domain record now points to the wrong name-servers (ns?.blastwave.org). Dennis, Since you registered the domain name - would you be so kind as to update the domain record to point to the original name servers? (Alternatively, assuming you run the ns?.blastwave.org servers, could you just update those to point to 204.152.191.100?) Al? Do you happen to have that name server information handy? Can you update the genunix.org DNS NS (Name Server) records to point to: ns0.genunix.org 63.219.151.3 ns1.genunix.org 205.234.154.1 ns2.genunix.org 66.117.40.198 ns3.genunix.org 216.129.109.1 ns4.genunix.org 205.234.170.165 rather than ns1 and ns2 (.blastwave.org) cheers, steve -- stephen lau | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.whacked.net -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:43 PM, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No need to panic. The site is not changing. The only issue is that the top level domain record now points to the wrong name-servers (ns?.blastwave.org). I hear you. On the other hand, a community-held recent backup would be a good thing. I already maintain backups: a) on other genunix machines on different disk drives b) at Logical c) on a well connected site provided by Joyent.com (thanks to Ben Rockwood and Joyent.com) It's called disaster recovery, and I think, in light of what's going on, it would be useful to think about that. Thanks for explaining that! :) :) But seriously, if maintaining another set of backups makes you happy, by all means feel free to do so and let me know what your ongoing backup schedule is and the reliability we can expect of your backup systems etc. Regards, -- Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc,Plano,TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: 972.379.2133 Timezone: US CDT OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007 http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/ ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Dennis Clarke wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:34 PM, Dennis Clarke wrote: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 7:15 AM, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/08/2008, at 11:04 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: It seems that blastwave is the only mirror that still has a complete backup. I am currently restoring the backup. blastwave.berlios.de/csw/stable is already complete again, blastwave.berlios.de/csw/unstable is currently restoring. The full restore is expected to complete in 30 minutes. After Berlios is completed, Michael Gernoth will sync the mirror at uni-erlangen.de from Berlios and I hope that after some time all mirrors will hopefully get the correct data back again. Thanks Jörg! You can not restore and then distribute all those binary packages unless you also have all the sources and source changes as well as the rights to infringe on both copyright and license. Which you don't. Simply be careful of what you choose to step into. You can distribute binaries, but need to require sources *if asked* - which technically means that you can have a download site without the sources, unless you are specifically requested to provide the sources (for all binaries that have an appropriate license). I know I'm splitting hairs here, but it's an important point. It is. I updated the homepage. Had to phone into an office to get access and did post what I told people on the 1st of August 2008. I have to go stay quiet for a bit now. Not my nature. Why? Why not explain what is happening instead of just shutting down everything and leaving the rest of the world in the dark? -- Trygve ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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Why? Why not explain what is happening instead of just shutting down everything and leaving the rest of the world in the dark? Because anything said can be used against him. That isn't just a fancy line they say in movies for suspense. -mg ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
This isn't good. Hopefully Dennis will drop a comment our way soon. It'll be a sad day for everyone if blastwave closes permanently. Dennis has apparently indicated, that he is no longer interested in 'hosting' the CSW packaging efforts for solaris, if he cannot dictate various things about how businesses use it. So, apparently, CSW packaging, will no longer be a project at blastwave.org. However... since I am still willing to continue my efforts to continue to do the actual coordination of day to day things, and other maintainers are also... CSW packaging will still continue, for those interested in still being involved! We will just switch to a different domain name. This new development, means that we could use an offer of some hosted solaris 8 build machines, though. (ie: if you have some thing vaguely resembling a datacenter, and you wouldnt mind setting up a build server or two matching that description for our use, it would be quite helpful. ORRR, if you wanted to give a one-time donation of hardware that is compatible with that stuff, AND are willing to pay shipping on it to far away (might be europe, might be elsewhere), please let me know. phil,- bolthole.com, please :) We are ALSO interested in more people being maintainers! So if you might be interested in giving some of your time to the cause, please also let me know. [umm.. lot of Cc's there.. think i'll take some of them out. wait.. i cant though this web forum interface. sorry folks :( ] This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Mr. Philip Brown : You requested the creation of csw.blastwave.org as well as full exclusive control of that process and I invested heavily to ensure that you have everything that you requested. I worked to take care of your needs with significant upgrades to facilities, storage, fibre, bandwidth as well as to address needs expressed to me by Jeff Jackson at Sun. In return you have breeched clearly established trademark law and you have violated our agreements. It is of interest to you that you performed these actions as an employee of University of Southern California and in fact you were logged in from USC at the time. Conduct your self accordingly and expect further contact, both personally and at USC, via legal representation of Blastwave.org Incorporated. Dennis Clarke CEO Blastwave.org Inc. Blastwave is a registered trademarks of Blastwave.org Inc. in the United States and Canada. UNIX is a registered trademark in the United States and other countries, exclusively licensed through X/Open Company, Ltd. CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission and any document that may be accompanying the e-mail transmission may contain confidential and proprietary information intended only for use by the recipient named. If you are not the intended recipient or the employee or agency authorized to deliver the e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Matthew Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Hope all is well also... it has been a great resource for me while learning Solaris. Guess I'll create a local mirror before any of the mirrors remove anything, be terrible to lose that stuff. -- Brent Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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well. why not just figure? might be some big company having to do with it, hm? and which one likes to screw up all the time, hm? unless some people take there seats in the near future, i see no good coming. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Matthew Snyder wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC genunix.org has gone down with it. Not good. Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Ian Collins wrote: Matthew Snyder wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC genunix.org has gone down with it. Not good. genunix.org is still available if you use the real IP address, not the new ones the blastwave nameservers started publishing today. (My DNS server is fortunate to still have the old ones cached, but I'm sure that won't last long.) http://204.152.191.100/ -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Ian Collins wrote: Matthew Snyder wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC genunix.org has gone down with it. Not good. genunix.org is still available if you use the real IP address, not the new ones the blastwave nameservers started publishing today. (My DNS server is fortunate to still have the old ones cached, but I'm sure that won't last long.) http://204.152.191.100/ The wiki's gone :( Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://204.152.191.100/ The wiki's gone :( It's still there: http://204.152.191.100/wiki/index.php/Main_Page -- Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell 818.943.1850 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://204.152.191.100/ The wiki's gone :( It's still there: http://204.152.191.100/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Now the question is: how to suck the content out... Anybody want to write a crawler pronto? or even get a sql dump? somehow? -- Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell 818.943.1850 -- Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell 818.943.1850 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
Ian Collins wrote: Matthew Snyder wrote: A little off topic, but I figure you guys use the site and I see Dennis around here often, so.. Anyone know whats up with blastwave.org? the notice sounds legal; probably means no official updates right now. Anyone know anything? I hope all is ok DC genunix.org has gone down with it. Not good. I thought genunix.org was independent of Blastwave; the mails on the subject form May/June '05 indicate that it is. I know Logical Approach supplied some of the hardware and Al Hopper was involved in commissioning the site. Maybe it's a problem with the domain ownership? Ian ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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Ian Collins wrote: Alan Coopersmith wrote: http://204.152.191.100/ The wiki's gone :( Clicking through tries to redirect via the DNS name, but going to http://204.152.191.100/wiki/index.php/Main_Page seems to work for me. Perhaps Ben or Al can bring it back online with a new domain name. -- -Alan Coopersmith- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Microsystems, Inc. - X Window System Engineering ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
The phone number referred to in the holding page is for a company called LiveWire at the following address: 80 Galaxy Boulevard, Suite 19 Toronto, Ontario M9W 4Y8 Tel : ( 416 ) 798 - 3410 Fax : ( 416 ) 798 - 3391 (from www.livewirecomputer.com, which seems to be the same as livewire.ca. Dennis's email address is listed on the holding page as dclarke at livewire dot ca and the toll free number is also for Livewire). Is Livewire just his ISP or is there more to it? Also, why is the holding page asking for donations with no explanation as to what has happened, except to say that the companies assets have been frozen??? Here is the whois dump for genunix.org BTW. Note CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED - is that normal for NSI registered domains or has it been frozen as well? Domain ID:D106563976-LROR Domain Name:GENUNIX.ORG Created On:08-Jun-2005 20:10:06 UTC Last Updated On:06-Aug-2008 22:09:41 UTC Expiration Date:08-Jun-2013 20:10:06 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions LLC (R63-LROR) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:2419290-NSI Registrant Name:DENNIS CLARKE Registrant Organization:blastwave.org [Address tel number removed] Registrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin ID:2419290-NSI Admin Name:DENNIS CLARKE Admin Organization:blastwave.org [Address tel number removed] Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tech ID:2419290-NSI Tech Name:DENNIS CLARKE Tech Organization:blastwave.org [Address tel number removed] Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Name Server:NS1.BLASTWAVE.ORG Name Server:NS2.BLASTWAVE.ORG (dumped from www.dnsstuff.com). Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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Blastwave mirror list: http://www.canoedissent.org.uk/mirror/status/ Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [osol-discuss] blastwave.org - any info?
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 9:17 PM, andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The phone number referred to in the holding page is for a company called LiveWire at the following address: 80 Galaxy Boulevard, Suite 19 Toronto, Ontario M9W 4Y8 Tel : ( 416 ) 798 - 3410 Fax : ( 416 ) 798 - 3391 (from www.livewirecomputer.com, which seems to be the same as livewire.ca. Dennis's email address is listed on the holding page as dclarke at livewire dot ca and the toll free number is also for Livewire). Is Livewire just his ISP or is there more to it? Also, why is the holding page asking for donations with no explanation as to what has happened, except to say that the companies assets have been frozen??? Here is the whois dump for genunix.org BTW. Note CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED - is that normal for NSI registered domains or has it been frozen as well? Domain ID:D106563976-LROR Domain Name:GENUNIX.ORG Created On:08-Jun-2005 20:10:06 UTC Last Updated On:06-Aug-2008 22:09:41 UTC Expiration Date:08-Jun-2013 20:10:06 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:Network Solutions LLC (R63-LROR) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:2419290-NSI Registrant Name:DENNIS CLARKE Registrant Organization:blastwave.org [Address tel number removed] Registrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admin ID:2419290-NSI Admin Name:DENNIS CLARKE Admin Organization:blastwave.org [Address tel number removed] Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tech ID:2419290-NSI Tech Name:DENNIS CLARKE Tech Organization:blastwave.org [Address tel number removed] Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Name Server:NS1.BLASTWAVE.ORG Name Server:NS2.BLASTWAVE.ORG (dumped from www.dnsstuff.com). Cheers Andrew. I'm making a huge assumption: the website says: Legal representation for the affairs of Blastwave.org Inc. are handled by Deeth Williams Wall LLP in Toronto Canada. ( DWW.com ) dww.com is a trademark and patent lawyer. I have the feeling that this is what is going on. We need word from dennis as to why he needs money, and I am sure we can get the ball rolling. -- Chris Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell 818.943.1850 ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
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Temporary workaround until (hopefully) genunix.org gets extracated from this mess: add this line to your hosts file: 204.152.191.100 genunix.org www.genunix.org Cheers Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
