Re: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world
I think the whole question is wrong. I don't see there to be one BEST product. It all matters for the application. What is required (i.e. features, support, performance etc). What is the know-how of the enduser? Does it require a simple graphic interface? Or is a CLI preferred? Or both needed? Do you just need a single setup or is this which should be rolled out to various remote locations? Do you require it to run on a specific hardware or OS? If you really want to help to select something and not just doing some marketing research, then explain your situation and ask for suggestions for it. Regards, Martin Winter On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 4:57 PM Julius ter Pelkwijk wrote: > > Hey, > > As someone who works a lot with AI, I have to say that chatGPT relies on what > it can find on the internet. The first page I found was from pfsense, > claiming it to be the "world's most trusted open source firewall". The Dutch > call this a "wij van wc-eend", a phrase made by a company to claim that their > product is the best. > > I tend to use UFW, but I know people who use Shorewall and CSF. Its a case of > "preference" and what you want to use the firewall for. > > Greetings, > > Julius > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 3:54 PM Klaas Tammling wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I mean just from a quick search there are a bunch of great opensource >> firewalls. Some more popular than others, depending on the use case. >> >> The first one which would come into my mind is OPNSense, a fork of pfsense. >> I use it myself and it works great. >> >> Another one could be IPFire and IPCop. >> >> This site is in German but it lists a few, you could evaluate if you search >> for something new (not affiliated with that site): >> https://aware7.com/de/blog/die-12-besten-open-source-firewalls/ >> >> All the best, >> >> Klaas >> >> >> Von: opensource-wg im Auftrag von >> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg >> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2024 15:33 >> An: opensource-wg@ripe.net >> Cc: c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com >> Betreff: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world >> >> Subject: Most popular open source firewall in the world >> >> Good day from Singapore, >> >> I am using pfsense community edition 2.7.2 firewall at home. >> >> Recently I asked ChatGPT. ChatGPT says pfsense is the singular most popular >> open source firewall in the world. >> >> Is pfsense really the most popular open source firewall in the world? >> If there is more than one, please provide a list of the most popular open >> source firewall(s) in the world as well. >> Preferably from well accredited sources. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming >> Targeted Individual in Singapore >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> opensource-wg mailing list >> opensource-wg@ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change >> your subscription options, please visit: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg >> ___ >> opensource-wg mailing list >> opensource-wg@ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg >> >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change >> your subscription options, please visit: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg > > ___ > opensource-wg mailing list > opensource-wg@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] Hello!
Luka, there isn't a clear structure and most of the Working Group Activity is happening at the RIPE Meetings. But in general, a long time ago I started the WG with the idea to have better communication between Open Source Developers and Internet Providers. Traditionally, we focus on Open Source Software focused in the networking space, but there are no fixed rules on what is included and what not. We tried to adjust a bit based on our personal experience, background and feedback from the community here on the list, during the meetings and privately. If you go to https://www.ripe.net/community/wg/active-wg/os/, then you see our charter (and some outdated examples of Open Source Projects). Most of it is centered around the meetings and the presentations there. (And there are some awesome presentation in the RIPE Archive to watch) (And if this is not clear: All the presentations can be watched live through streaming during the meeting and are available afterwards in the RIPE archive at https://www.ripe.net/membership/meetings/ripe-meetings/archive/ ) Sometimes it's an update on some Open Source project, an Outlook to a future version, discussion on funding or licensing, failed projects (always great to learn from failures from others!), Community building, Testing, etc. The list is not conclusive and we are open to anything anyone can think would help an open source project for this audience (we try to limit it a bit to Open Source in the network space, but there are no clear guidelines and we are happy to discuss how far this stretches. Also, we are only humans and some projects can be used in interesting and unusual ways) Here on the mailing list, similar topics are welcome. You will also see discussion about potential events at other conferences or discussion on some rules for conduct (as templates for projects). So basically, the community is what we want it to be. So sorry, no formal member guide. Regards, Martin Winter Open Source WG Co-Chair On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 12:13 PM Luka Perkov wrote: > > Hello Martin, > > Thanks for sharing, I am still struggling to figure out how the > working group is exactly organized. Could you perhaps create a new > member guide so we can foster and grow the community further together? > > Luka > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 2:58 AM Martin Winter wrote: > > > > Luka, > > > > not all replies need to copy the whole list. I sent him some > > information and hoped to have encouraged him enough to actually show > > up at some future RIPE meeting. New members are always welcome and we > > are happy to help, but CC'ing the whole list every time with the same > > information is just noise in my view. > > > > Regards, > > Martin Winter > > Open Source WG Co-Chair > > > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:57 PM Luka Perkov via opensource-wg > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello Patrick, > > > > > > It is a pleasure to have you here and we wish you a warm welcome! > > > > > > Chairs, it would be much appreciated if you could also welcome the new > > > members and include any other noteworthy details so we can grow this > > > community and make the Internet a better place. > > > > > > With best regards, > > > Luka Perkov > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:59 PM Patrick Masson > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > > > I just discovered this list and thought I would send out an email to > > > > introduce myself (https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-masson-apereo). > > > > > > > > I am currently serving as the executive director at the Apereo > > > > Foundation (https://www.apereo.org/), a US based non-profit working to > > > > advance open source software in academic and research institutions. > > > > Apereo has several projects and members (colleges and universities) > > > > located in Europe and we commonly participate in a varsity of European > > > > free and open source communities and events. > > > > > > > > Looking forward to chatting with you all, > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > -- > > > > | | | || | | || | || | | || ||| | | | || | | || ||| || | || | | ||| > > > > | | | | || | > > > > > > > > Patrick Masson > > > > Executive Director > > > > Apereo Foundation > > > > 9450 SW Gemini Dr PMB 98572 > > > > Beaverton, OR 97008-7105 > > > > Mobile: +1 (970) 4-MASSON > > > > Website: www.apereo.org > > > > > > > > ___
Re: [opensource-wg] Hello!
Luka, not all replies need to copy the whole list. I sent him some information and hoped to have encouraged him enough to actually show up at some future RIPE meeting. New members are always welcome and we are happy to help, but CC'ing the whole list every time with the same information is just noise in my view. Regards, Martin Winter Open Source WG Co-Chair On Sat, Feb 10, 2024 at 1:57 PM Luka Perkov via opensource-wg wrote: > > Hello Patrick, > > It is a pleasure to have you here and we wish you a warm welcome! > > Chairs, it would be much appreciated if you could also welcome the new > members and include any other noteworthy details so we can grow this > community and make the Internet a better place. > > With best regards, > Luka Perkov > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 11:59 PM Patrick Masson > wrote: > > > > Hello list, > > > > I just discovered this list and thought I would send out an email to > > introduce myself (https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-masson-apereo). > > > > I am currently serving as the executive director at the Apereo > > Foundation (https://www.apereo.org/), a US based non-profit working to > > advance open source software in academic and research institutions. > > Apereo has several projects and members (colleges and universities) > > located in Europe and we commonly participate in a varsity of European > > free and open source communities and events. > > > > Looking forward to chatting with you all, > > Patrick > > > > -- > > | | | || | | || | || | | || ||| | | | || | | || ||| || | || | | ||| > > | | | | || | > > > > Patrick Masson > > Executive Director > > Apereo Foundation > > 9450 SW Gemini Dr PMB 98572 > > Beaverton, OR 97008-7105 > > Mobile: +1 (970) 4-MASSON > > Website: www.apereo.org > > > > ___ > > opensource-wg mailing list > > opensource-wg@ripe.net > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > > your subscription options, please visit: > > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg > > ___ > opensource-wg mailing list > opensource-wg@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] Call for support of co-chair candidates
Paul, to answer your questions: I mainly asked not about personal introduction but how you learned about the voting process. After all, you try to make the point that the current process is not fair. I do not care about your personal background - we welcome everyone. What I was looking for: - How did you learn about the chair selection process? After all, the email for the selection process was sent before you joined. - How did you decide that your choice is better than the other choices? After all you are new to this group and seem to be still confused about it. (I take this from the mention of the number of emails on the list. We mainly work on the meeting, so while it would be nice to have a more active list, our main charter isn't the list. Go and check out the RIPE websites for our mission on this (and other) WG If you miss the strategic plan, then please look at the RIPE website, specifically our mission: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/os For activities, we are mostly active at the meetings and all the presentations are archived. A lot of cool content and I suggest you watch some of it when you get some spare time. I hope this makes you interested enough and we can welcome you personally at some future RIPE meeting. In general, there are no introductions and my question was not about you personally (maybe I didn't make this clear enough), but on the lines fo the questions above. Introductions are usually a personal thing at the RIPE meeting. Regards, Martin WInter Open Source WG Chair On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 6:32 PM Paul Arola wrote: > > I appreciate the opportunity to introduce myself. With my experience > as Chair of the GiGAWire Task Force in the HomeGrid Forum and my > involvement in various open source initiatives at TELUS, particularly > in G.hn related activities, I am well-prepared to contribute to the > RIPE community. > > Regarding my initial concerns about transparency and integrity, they > may point to deeper challenges within RIPE’s processes. Addressing > these issues head-on is crucial for fostering an environment where > trust is reinforced and collaboration is encouraged. > > That said, I've noticed the absence of a readily available strategic > plan or list of the group's activities. Understanding the group's > goals and direction would enable me to align my efforts more > effectively. Could you please guide me to this information? > > Lastly, as a newcomer, I'm eager to learn more about the other members > of the community. While I'm somewhat familiar with some, I look > forward to getting to know others. How do we facilitate introductions, > particularly from established members of the email list? > > Thanks, > > -paul > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 3:13 PM Martin Winter wrote: > > > > Paul, > > > > On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 6:02 PM Paul Arola wrote: > > > Initially, the voting process was defined by specific and clear > > > guidelines. The retrospective amendment of these criteria after the > > > election raises significant concerns about transparency and the integrity > > > of the democratic process within our community. Changing these rules > > > post-factum sets a precedent that is both unexpected and concerning. > > > > > > > Actually, no. The decision to move it to the mailing list was > > something which wasn't initially planned. Initially, the idea would > > have been to vote during the session. We (Marcos and myself and while > > discussing this with other WG Chairs) decided then to move it to the > > list, as we were not sure on how to do the voting with remote > > attendees and not everyone can attend all the meetings, but we still > > wanted to have all of the participants of the OS-WG to be able > > to vote. For the ones here who are not 10+ years with the OS WG, this > > was actually the first time we had to vote. > > Before that it was just Marcos who joined last year, but with one > > opening and one candidate, there was just a formal confirmation at the > > meeting. (And I was never voted in, as I started the WG long time > > back). And just to be clear, I'm very happy to hear that we have now > > multiple candidates. > > > > > This decision also raises questions about the RIPE Open Source Working > > > Group's approach to collaboration. The use of terms like "our open source > > > arena" only confirms exclusivity and combativeness, which is not > > > conducive to the open and collaborative nature of open source > > > communities. It goes against the spirit of open source, which emphasizes > > > inclusivity and community-driven development. Moreover, the chairs did > > > not provide a clear
Re: [opensource-wg] Call for support of co-chair candidates
Ines. First of all welcome. And yes, you are one of the impacted persons as well who just joined the list after the RIPE meeting, not attended any recent RIPEs and were still informed well enough to immediatly vote after joining the list. On Sun, Dec 17, 2023 at 9:14 AM Ines Skelac wrote: > > Dear RIPE Community, > > I am writing to express my disappointment and concern regarding the recent > decision-making process for the open co-chair position in the RIPE community. > As a new member of this esteemed group, I find the approach taken to be both > disheartening and alarming. Is it really alarming that we don't allow votes from people who were not part of the community when the voting started? In all democracies I know, you have to be registered/present some time before the voting starts. If you would be part of the RIPE community for a bit longer then you would be aware that usually the voting would be at the meeting itself. We decided at the last minute to give people a bit more time after they heard each of them introducing themself at the meeting and give them 2 weeks to make up their minds. Maybe we should have been clear that later joins are not eligible to vote, but then you wouldn't have seen or heard that anyway as you were not yet part of the community. So instead of making wild accusations that this is alarming, please take yourself as an example and explain why YOUR vote should count. Explain how you know about the voting and how you heard about ALL of the candidates and about your past experience with RIPE (which got you a bit familiar with the community, our goal of the WG) - which I assume you all know to be able to pick the best candidate. Please be aware, we didn't look for the most popular person or the one with the most followers or the best Open Source background. We were looking for the best choice for a WG chair. How this is defined might be viewed differently by each person. If you can explain this, then we might be happy to reconsider counting your vote. So far, the only ones complaining are the ones who signed up days after the meeting and voted immediately. > The decision to disqualify votes from new members who may not have had the > opportunity to attend a RIPE meeting or were not subscribed to the mailing > list by a specific date seems not only unfair but also counterproductive. > This approach overlooks the potential contributions of new members and > creates an unwelcoming environment. It also appears to be grounded in logical > fallacies, such as the 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' fallacy, which undermines > the rationality of this decision. Please be aware that you can attend RIPE for free from remote. No travel required. No money required. This is a very low entry level. And no, this does not produce a unwelcoming environment, but protects the working group to be not potentially controlled by some outside force. By your definition, welcoming would mean that I can create a bot to create votes and you expect them to be counted. Or I can go and ask all my friends to join and vote in exchange for a beer. This has nothing to do with welcoming, but all about protecting the integrity of the vote. I welcome you to join the next RIPE meeting and bring up this in person to discuss with the whole group. Regards, Martin Winter Open Source WG Chair > > Moreover, such a stance is unacademic and unethical. It disregards the > principles of open dialogue and diversity of perspectives, which are crucial > in any intellectual community. Disqualifying members without substantial > evidence and not acknowledging the value of fresh perspectives can severely > damage the integrity and reputation of the RIPE community. > > As a new member eager to contribute, this experience is not only > disheartening but also raises concerns about the future direction of the > community. I urge the leadership to reconsider this approach and adopt more > inclusive and equitable practices. The strength of a community lies in its > diversity and openness to all voices, including those of its newest members. > > I hope that my concerns will be taken seriously and that we can work together > towards a more inclusive and respectful RIPE community. > > > > Sincerely, > > Ines Skelac, PhD, Assistant Professor > > Vice-dean for Science, International Cooperation, Management and Quality > Assurance > > University of Zagreb, Faculty of Philosophy and Religious Studies > > > > > sub, 16. pro 2023. u 23:45 Ondřej Surý napisao je: >> >> Oh, I didn’t want to imply any intentional wrongdoing. I simply suggested >> that stepping down in such situation might be the best way to acknowledge >> the less than ideal situation and prevent the possible argument that might >> drag for a long time. >> >> Ondrej &
Re: [opensource-wg] Call for support of co-chair candidates
Ondrej, On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 9:31 PM Ondřej Surý wrote: > The way I read the decision from the chair, they strive to have the voting > process work for the existing community. If suddenly there’s a surge of > people who were never active in this community subscribing to the mailing > list and voting for any of the candidates, I would consider this be a kind of > hostile takeover. > > Honestly, I think the only fair way out of this would be if the candidate who > received the surge of votes from people outside of this community stepped > down. A co-chair elected with votes from people who never participated in the > RIPE community would not be accepted by this community and it would be > divisive and toxic to the future work. I don't like to go this far. We (as the chairs) have no proof or indication that any of the candidates actively tried to manipulate the voting. However, some candidates might be more popular in their own social circles and may have mentioned that they are candidates. And I think that's all good and fair. I can't blame the candidates for this or for the fact if someone then just signed up to vote for him. I have no indication that he/she motivated them to do this. As such, I assume all candidates are innocent and did not try to manipulate the voting. Regards, Martin Winter Open Source WG Chair ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] Call for support of co-chair candidates
s, it would be constructive if the chairs could offer > guidance on how those currently deemed 'unfit' voters might become eligible > in the future, as well as any potential pitfalls that current 'eligible' > voters should avoid to maintain their status. Such openness would greatly aid > in demystifying the voting process and ensuring a fair and inclusive > community environment. Simple: Be part of the community for more than a few days. Would be great if we could see some of these new subscribers to stick around and even attend a RIPE meeting in the future. Preferably in person, but if this isn;t possible, then join it virtual. Or join some discussions, start a discussion etc. > Thank you for considering this feedback. I look forward to a constructive and > open discussion on these matters. Thanks for your feedback. We are open to discuss and do what we believe is right to get this community thriving. In general, RIPE works a lot based on good faith and working together. Regards, Martin Winter Open Source WG Co-Chair ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE87, Rome, 27 Nov - 1 Dec 2023)
Maria, for updates, I think you can pick any of them. There are frequently multiple WGs which fit a talk. I think the community appreciates the updates in general and we try to make sure that these 2 specific WGs never run in parallel at the same time. So either works and you could ping both WGs. It's great to have the flexibility on time for the WG chairs on the time to schedule it to either of them based on available other talks. Regards, Martin Winter OS WG Co-Chair On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 3:44 PM Maria Matejka wrote: > Hello Martin, Marco and others, > > remembering what was said in Rotterdam, we got here into a discussion > about where and how to present updates in existing open-source products, > reiterating the concerns about the OS-WG group somehow canibalizing > Routing WG. > > I'm planning myself to propose a non-product presentation in OS-WG > mostly about how we organize work on BIRD and what problems we deal with. > > I'd like to ask you for opinions whether we shall aim for Routing WG > with BIRD updates, or whether we shall stay here. > > Thank you and see you all in Rome! > Maria > On 2023-09-26 15:22, Martin Winter wrote: > > Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE87, Rome, 27 Nov - 1 Dec 2023) > > The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about > some interesting Open Source > > If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG > session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). > In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is > needed). > > If you have some idea and are not sure how/if you should present something > then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. > > For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at > the end of the WG session. > These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before > the WG session on a time/space available basis. > No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. > > Thanks, >Martin Winter & Marco Sanz >OpenSource WG Chairs > > ___ > opensource-wg mailing > listopensource-wg@ripe.nethttps://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change > your subscription options, please visit: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg > > -- > Maria Matejka (she/her) | BIRD Team Leader | CZ.NIC, z.s.p.o. > > ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE87, Rome, 27 Nov - 1 Dec 2023)
Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE87, Rome, 27 Nov - 1 Dec 2023) The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and are not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available basis. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter & Marco Sanz OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Open Source WG - Call for Co-Chairs Nomination
Martin Winter Wed, Sep 29, 2021, 1:07 PM to opensource-wg@ripe.net It's soon time for our RIPE Fall meeting - which means it’s time for nominations to become a new co-chair of the WG. Please send your nominations by End of October to the WG chairs: opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net Deadline for nominations: Sunday, Oct 31, 23:59 UTC We are currently 2 Chairs: Martin Winter and Marco Sanz. Ondrej Filip stepped down after the past RIPE meeting. Both of the existing chairs are willing to continue. If there are no nominations, then there will be no change, but we are very open to new candidates and would welcome to add another Co-Chair Details on Chair Selection Policy: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg /open-source-working-group/open-source-wg-chair-selection-process In short: If there are NO nominations, then the existing chairs will continue. If there are nominations, then the existing chairs will have a discussion with the candidates to see if we can come to an agreement (i.e. expand to 3 chairs, replace one of us etc). If there is no agreement between all the existing chairs and the new nominations until RIPE, then there will be a vote during the RIPE meeting. Regards, Martin Winter & Marco Sanz Open Source WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Agenda Open Source WG RIPE 86
Less than 2 weeks until RIPE. Below is the agenda for the Open Source WG Session. The session will be on Thursday afternoon, just after lunch. Hope to see you all in Rotterdam. Open Source WG Chairs A. Administrative Matters - finalize agenda - approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) - review of action list B. NGI-Zero: EU-funded framework for supporting FLOSS projects Niall O'Reilly, Tolerant Networks Ltd This presentation will alert participants to the EU Commission's New Generation Internet (NGI), to NGI funding opportunities, and to project support available from the NGI-Zero coalition led by the NLnet Foundation. Tolerant Networks Ltd is a partner in NGI-Zero. C. From Peering Manager features to standalone library Guillaume Mazoyer, Peering Manager Lead Developer During the process of writing the integration code for Peering Manager and IX-API, an opportunity arose to extract the relevant features from the main code base and create a separate library. As a result, pyixapi was born, providing a user-friendly and straightforward interface for interacting with IX-API endpoints. D. BIRD 2 - Overview and Future Outlook Ondřej Zajíček, CZ.NIC Five years ago, we released BIRD 2, the major overhaul of BIRD Internet Routing Daemon. I will recapitulate recent BIRD development, present new interesting features, and discuss the future outlook of BIRD development, including the upcoming multithreaded BIRD 3. E. Update from Route Server Support Foundation Niels Raijer, Chairman RSSF Why RSSF is there, the technological advances in OpenBGPD and rpki-client and a surprising way in which we received some funding. F. Lightning Talks These are short updates on different relevant OpenSource projects. They should be 5 mins (preferably) with a maximum of 10 mins(if space allows). No formal submission required ahead of RIPE, but please send a short message to opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net by noon on Tuesday during the RIPE if you want to present an update. Selection of talks are done on Tuesday afternoon. ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Agenda Open Source WG RIPE 86
Below is the Agenda for the Open Source WG Session during RIPE. One thing not mentioned in the agenda (but will be announced during the Admin section), is that Ondrej is stepping down as OS WG Chair. See you all in Rotterdam, Martin - A. Administrative Matters - finalize agenda - approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) - review of action list B. NGI-Zero: EU-funded framework for supporting FLOSS projects Niall O'Reilly, Tolerant Networks Ltd This presentation will alert participants to the EU Commission's New Generation Internet (NGI), to NGI funding opportunities, and to project support available from the NGI-Zero coalition led by the NLnet Foundation. Tolerant Networks Ltd is a partner in NGI-Zero. C. From Peering Manager features to standalone library Guillaume Mazoyer, Peering Manager Lead Developer During the process of writing the integration code for Peering Manager and IX-API, an opportunity arose to extract the relevant features from the main code base and create a separate library. As a result, pyixapi was born, providing a user-friendly and straightforward interface for interacting with IX-API endpoints. D. BIRD 2 - Overview and Future Outlook Ondřej Zajíček, CZ.NIC Five years ago, we released BIRD 2, the major overhaul of BIRD Internet Routing Daemon. I will recapitulate recent BIRD development, present new interesting features, and discuss the future outlook of BIRD development, including the upcoming multithreaded BIRD 3. E. Update from Route Server Support Foundation Niels Raijer, Chairman RSSF Why RSSF is there, the technological advances in OpenBGPD and rpki-client and a surprising way in which we received some funding. F. Lightning Talks These are short updates on different relevant OpenSource projects. They should be 5 mins (preferably) with a maximum of 10 mins(if space allows). No formal submission required ahead of RIPE, but please send a short message to opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net by noon on Tuesday during the RIPE if you want to present an update. Selection of talks are done on Tuesday afternoon. ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Opensource-WG: Call for Presentations (RIPE 86, 22-26 May)
The next RIPE Meeting is coming up - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter, Marco Sanz & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE85, 24-28 Okt 2022)
The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source Are you using some cool Open Source project at your LIR which we haven't talked about? Let us know! Are you working on a project and want to present about it? Let us know! If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve some time at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip & Marcos Sanz OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] Call for OpenSource WG Chair Nominations (due by Oct 9, 23:59 GMT)
Everyone, The fall RIPE is coming up and this is the time for Open Source WG chair elections. Nomination period is from NOW until Oct 9, 23:59 GMT Chair selection is as follows: - If there are no nominations, then it will continue as is without any vote (all three of us are willing to continue) - If there is a nomination, then we will try to decide in a consensus (between existing chairs and nominees) on how to proceed - If the consensus fails (i.e. if one of the nominations wants to force a vote to replace an existing maintainer and there is any other disagreement), then we’ll have a public vote during the Open Source WG (Consensus between existing chairs and all the nominees) See https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/open-source-working-group/open-source-wg-chair-selection-process for details. So if you want to become a OS WG chair, then this is the time to do so and speak up. Please send your nomination to opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net (mailto:opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net) If you miss this chance, then the next nomination period is in one year (each Fall RIPE meeting) The new WG chair starts after the Fall RIPE meeting. Regards, Your current Opensource WG Chairs Martin Winter, Ondrej Filip, Marcos Sanz ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] RIPE-84 Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (Berlin, 22-26 Nov 2021)
The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source Please be aware that this RIPE meeting is a hybrid meeting. We would prefer the speakers on site, but we are able to arrange for a remote speaker as well If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve some time at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter, Ondrej Filip & Marcos Sanz OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] Agenda Open Source WG RIPE 83
Oops, forgot one presentation. We actually have one more interesting presentation.. Updated Agenda: A. Administrative Matters (Working Group Chairs) Welcome finalize agenda approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) review of action list Results of WG Chair Re-Election B. Virtual IPv6 Security Lab Environment (Ondřej Caletka, RIPE NCC) Recently, RIPE NCC launched a new free e-learning course on IPv6 security in the RIPE NCC Academy. With this course, we also offer a way to practice some attacks and protection against them on your own computer. I will present this virtual lab environment and describe the open source components it is based on. C. Through the Looking-Glass - 5 Years of BGP-Adventures (Annika Hannig, DE-CIX) Alice is a BGP Looking Glass with support for BIRD, GoBGP and since recently OpenBGPD. It is widely adopted by IXPs across the globe. After a short retrospective look at the history of Alice, having its origin at the RIPE73 hackathon in Madrid, we'll have a look at the architecture, features and all the new things that were implemented during the last two years. We will have a look at the challenges of maintaining an Open Source project over now more than five years in an ever changing ecosystem. Finally we dare looking into the future of Alice and what to expect in the next years. D. Building modern TCP stack for high-performance DNS on top of XDP (Libor Peltan, CZ NIC) Bypassing kernel network stack with XDP became a leap in DNS-over-UDP performance and DoS immunity. We expect performance leap and security against slow-loris and DoS from using XDP for DNS-over-TCP too, but implementing reliable and secure TCP stack is quite a challenge, even when considering DNS traffic specifics. E. Introduction of Marcos Sanz as additional WG Chair (Marcos Sanz, DE-CIX & Working Group Chairs) Marcos Sanz joins us as an additional WG Co-Chair. His term will start with the end of this RIPE meeting. On Nov 22 2021, at 2:24 am, Martin Winter wrote: > RIPE is starting... and below is our agenda. > > And as a result from the WG Chair elections, we got a new, additional WG > Co-Chair: > Marcos Sanz. His term starts at the end of this RIPE meeting and he will > introduce > himself at the end of the session - and (if time permits it) to some questions > > See you soon at another (virtual) RIPE meeting > Open Source WG Chairs > > > Agenda RIPE 83 Open Source WG Session > Thursday, November 25, 14:30 - 15:30 > > A. Administrative Matters > (Working Group Chairs) > > Welcome > finalize agenda > approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) > review of action list > Results of WG Chair Re-Election > > B. Virtual IPv6 Security Lab Environment > (Ondřej Caletka, RIPE NCC) > > Recently, RIPE NCC launched a new free e-learning course on IPv6 > security in the RIPE NCC Academy. With this course, we also offer a > way to practice some attacks and protection against them on your own > computer. I will present this virtual lab environment and describe > the open source components it is based on. > > C. Through the Looking-Glass - 5 Years of BGP-Adventures > (Annika Hannig, DE-CIX) > > Alice is a BGP Looking Glass with support for BIRD, GoBGP and > since recently OpenBGPD. It is widely adopted by IXPs across > the globe. After a short retrospective look at the history of > Alice, having its origin at the RIPE73 hackathon in Madrid, > we'll have a look at the architecture, features and all the > new things that were implemented during the last two years. We > will have a look at the challenges of maintaining an Open > Source project over now more than five years in an ever > changing ecosystem. Finally we dare looking into the future of > Alice and what to expect in the next years. > > D. Introduction of Marcos Sanz as additional WG Chair > (Marcos Sanz, DE-CIX & Working Group Chairs) > > Marcos Sanz joins us as an additional WG Co-Chair. His term will > start with the end of this RIPE meeting. ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Agenda Open Source WG RIPE 83
RIPE is starting... and below is our agenda. And as a result from the WG Chair elections, we got a new, additional WG Co-Chair: Marcos Sanz. His term starts at the end of this RIPE meeting and he will introduce himself at the end of the session - and (if time permits it) to some questions See you soon at another (virtual) RIPE meeting Open Source WG Chairs Agenda RIPE 83 Open Source WG Session Thursday, November 25, 14:30 - 15:30 A. Administrative Matters (Working Group Chairs) Welcome finalize agenda approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) review of action list Results of WG Chair Re-Election B. Virtual IPv6 Security Lab Environment (Ondřej Caletka, RIPE NCC) Recently, RIPE NCC launched a new free e-learning course on IPv6 security in the RIPE NCC Academy. With this course, we also offer a way to practice some attacks and protection against them on your own computer. I will present this virtual lab environment and describe the open source components it is based on. C. Through the Looking-Glass - 5 Years of BGP-Adventures (Annika Hannig, DE-CIX) Alice is a BGP Looking Glass with support for BIRD, GoBGP and since recently OpenBGPD. It is widely adopted by IXPs across the globe. After a short retrospective look at the history of Alice, having its origin at the RIPE73 hackathon in Madrid, we'll have a look at the architecture, features and all the new things that were implemented during the last two years. We will have a look at the challenges of maintaining an Open Source project over now more than five years in an ever changing ecosystem. Finally we dare looking into the future of Alice and what to expect in the next years. D. Introduction of Marcos Sanz as additional WG Chair (Marcos Sanz, DE-CIX & Working Group Chairs) Marcos Sanz joins us as an additional WG Co-Chair. His term will start with the end of this RIPE meeting. ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg To unsubscribe from this mailing list, get a password reminder, or change your subscription options, please visit: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (Virtual RIPE83, 22-26 Nov 2021)
The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source Please be aware that this RIPE meeting is VIRTUAL again. If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve some time at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Open Source WG - Call for Co-Chairs Nomination
It's soon time for our RIPE Fall meeting - which means it’s time for nominations to become a new co-chair of the WG. Please send your nominations by End of October to the WG chairs: opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net Deadline for nominations: Sunday, Oct 31, 23:59 UTC Both of the existing chairs are willing to continue. If there are no nominations, then there will be no change. Details on Chair Selection Policy: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/open-source-working-group/open-source-wg-chair-selection-process In short: If there are NO nominations, then the existing chairs will continue. If there are nominations, then the existing chairs will have a discussion with the candidates to see if we can come to an agreement (i.e. expand to 3 chairs, replace one of us etc). If there is no agreement between all the existing chairs and the new nominations until RIPE, then there will be a vote during the RIPE meeting. Regards, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip Open Source WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Open Source WG & Virtual Meetings
As mentioned at the end of today's Open Source WG Session, I would like to discuss and get some thoughts from the community on this topic. Recap for the ones which missed the session: The last 2 RIPE meetings were virtual without the usual hallway talks. Our current charter states: "The aim of the Open Source Working Group is to foster discussion among developers, Internet Service Providers and the rest of the RIPE community about open source projects related to the RIPE community" With virtual meetings, the "discussion" outside of the short WG session is much more difficult. RIPE is doing a good job trying to keep the RIPE as a "meeting" and not turning it into a "conference", but the lack of the physical meeting changes many things. Probably much easier to attend, but then some Open Source contributors prefer to meet with the community and get a 2-way exchange. I don't necessarily think we need to change anything, but I would like to have this discussion here on the list to see if there are ways to improve on how we function as a WG. If you have any good ideas, then go ahead and mention them here. Please keep in mind that this is not a discussion of virtual vs physical meetings. That decision is up to RIPE, not the WG. This is just on how we, as a WG, could potentially work better on virtual meetings. Let's discuss. Any cool ideas? Martin Winter Open Source WG Co-Chair ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Agenda OpenSource-WG Session RIPE 81
Here is the agenda for the OpenSource WG session at the upcoming RIPE meeting: Regards, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs A. Administrative Matters (Working Group Chairs) [5 mins] Welcome finalize agenda approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) review of action list Results of WG Chair Re-Election B. The Life Cycle of the RIPE NCC RPKI Validator [10min] (Nathalie Trenaman, RIPE) In this presentation we will provide an update on the current state and the future of the RIPE NCC RPKI Validator, including important time lines. C. The birdist cookbook (Alexander Zubkov, Qrator Labs CZ s.r.o.) At Qrator Labs we use Bird and BGP as means to organize routing at & among the points of our anycast network. In this talk I want to share our experience with Bird, what obstacles you can face using it, and other interesting things. D. Lighting Talks These are short updates on different relevant OpenSource projects. They should be 5 mins (preferably) with a maximum of 10 mins (if space allows). No formal submission required ahead of RIPE, but please send a short message to opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net (mailto:opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net) by noon on Tuesday during the RIPE if you want to present an update. Selection of talks are done on Tuesday afternoon. ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE81, Virtual Conference, 27-30 Oct 2020)
The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source The next meeting is (unfortunately) virtual again, so please keep this in mind when submitting the presentations. But it gives you an opportunity to present without having to travel. If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). But please keep in mind that we have a reduced slot of only 45mins as we expect less presentations If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve time again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time, but if you have an idea, then we welcome to hear about the topic to assist in our planning. Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Open Source WG - Call for Co-Chairs Nomination
It's soon time for our RIPE Fall meeting - which means it’s time for nominations to become a new co-chair of the WG. Please send your nominations within the next 21 days to the WG chairs: opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net (mailto:opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net) Deadline for nomination: Sunday, Oct 18, 23:59 UTC Both of the existing chairs are willing to continue. If there are no nominations, then there will be no change. Details on Chair Selection Policy: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/open-source-working-group/open-source-wg-chair-selection-process In short: If there are NO nominations, then the existing chairs will continue. If there are nominations, then the existing chairs will have a discussion with the candidates to see if we can come to an agreement (i.e. expand to 3 chairs, replace one of us etc). If there is no agreement between all the existing chairs and the new nominations until RIPE, then there will be a vote during the RIPE meeting. Regards, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip Open Source WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] false accusations about Rob McEwen (from invaluement) posted to this list
Open Source List members (and Elad in special) Elad Cohen is now set to moderated on the list - meaning his post are only seen on the list after one of us WG chairs or someone from RIPE approved it. Post like his repeated past messages are NOT TOLERATED on this list. Please refer to RIPE Code of Conduct. We welcome technical disagreements and you are welcome to present weird technical ideas (specially if they are related to Open Source) on this list, but personal attacks as done by Elad are NOT allowed. Elad was warned before after his initial email and he decided to ignore it. Regards, Martin Winter Open Source WG Chair PS: While we blocked Elad, we want to offer a chance to people who were attacked to respond in a final email to correct the accusations and have the last word. On May 7 2020, at 11:32 pm, Elad Cohen wrote: > > You are a complete liar. You are Rob Shultz. > > > I will decide when to expose "Mike Anderson" real identity and the real > identity of your other "The Spamhaus Project" mob members. > > You know many many more than 5 people in "The Spamhaus Project" - you know > them all, personally. > > You claim to be involved for 24 years in the email security and also to know > information which is not publicly available on "The Spamhaus Project" but > never heard the name "Rob Shultz" or "Mike Anderson", yeah right. > > The attack on me here continued one day after I wrote your real identity to > the RIPE Board and RIPE Management. In a coordinated attack on me - they > attacked me here and in Nanog and with their fake media reporter that reached > to me, all of these 3 things exactly at the same time and one day after I > wrote your real name privately to RIPE board & management, if it wasn't true > then Spamhaus wouldn't be getting into such panic and starting to attack me > again after being quiet for many many months. > > You are Rob Shultz, keep on denying it and it will lead me to call out all > your "The Spamhaus Project" mob friends and not only the few that I did. > > Respectfully, > Elad > > From: Rob McEwen > Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 12:00 AM > To: Elad Cohen ; opensource-wg@ripe.net > > Subject: Re: [opensource-wg] false accusations about Rob McEwen (from > invaluement) posted to this list > > > On 5/7/2020 4:22 PM, Elad Cohen wrote: > > > Can you confirm or deny that you know or don't know the real identify of > > the key person behind "The Spamhaus Project" which is "Mike Anderson"? Only > > Spamhaus members knows the real identity behind "Mike Anderson", come on > > deny or confirm if you know his real identity or not and after it I will > > write his real identify and proof that you know him personally. > > > Elad, > I have no idea who "Mike Anderson" is - I've don't recall ever hearing that > name until you brought it up in this thread. However, it is within the realm > of possibility that I might know the alleged real person you claim is behind > that name? That might be one of the 3 or so people who I know of at Spamhaus? > But that alone wouldn't prove that I know who "Mike Anderson" is! It is > possible that I might know the person you claim is hiding behind an alias, > without actually ever having known that such a person was (allegedly) hiding > behind THAT alias. > > NOTE: I just did a search of my email, going back years - and I think I'm up > to knowing 5 people at Spamhaus? But I had to dig and take "trips down memory > lane" to get that 3 to go up to 5. But I still probably couldn't name more > than 3 of them off the top of my head at any given time. > Also, I'm not going to confirm or deny ANY information about Spamhaus - > ESPECIALLY if it isn't a matter of public record. Why? Because that would be > unethical. Anti-spam operations are constantly subjected to abuse and attacks > - even occasional death threats - and I don't want to be responsible for > providing public information on any person's identity that might put that > person at risk of being harmed by criminals. > It's not my job to do someone else's dirty work. (or nutjob work?) > > ALSO - I've been involved in email security for 24 years. There are a heck of > a lot of people from many many years ago with whom I've probably had > extensive conversations - and now I have completely forgotten them. I don't > have a photographic memory. But I don't recognize "Mike Anderson" and I can't > find any record of communication in my email to/from such a person, or in any > of my customer information or other notes or contact information. > > -- > Rob McEwen > https://www.invaluement.com > > > ___ > opensource-wg mailing list > opensource-wg@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE80, Berlin, 11-15 May 2020)
The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Agenda Open Source WG for the upcoming RIPE 79 in Amsterdam
A. Administrative Matters (Working Group Chairs) Welcome finalize agenda approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) review of action list B. Collaborative Open Source: MANRS Validator (Leslie Daigle, ThinkingCat Enterprises) This presentation will show early results from an ongoing collaborative open source software project to build a validator tool for the MANRS (Mutually Agreed Norms for Routing Security) project. The project demonstrates the feasibility of applying concrete, objective tests to MANRS, as well as the need for cross-organizational collaboration to develop such tools. This presentation will outline key steps so far in this pilot project for collaborative open source. C. Recent development of the RPKI Validator project (Mikhail Puzanov, RIPE) RIPE NCC has been developing its own RPKI validator since 2010. The latest version 3 was started in 2017 as an attempt to address the issues found over years of usage in the RPKI validator version 2. While certain issues have been resolved, many new ones were introduced causing multiple bugs and reputation damage. The presentation mostly goes about the choice of Java-technologies and the efforts taken to change it. It also covers the progress in the latest developments and some changes between versions 3.0 and 3.1. D. NGI0: The Next Generation Internet initiative (Michiel Leenaars, Director of Strategy at NLnet Foundation) The Next Generation Internet initiative is a significant new effort aimed at strengthening the internet community. NGI was bootstrapped in 2016 at the initiative of the European Commission. The ambition of NGI is “to re-imagine and re-engineer the internet” in a human-centric way. An innovative grantmaking scheme and delivery mechanism focused on open source, open standards and open hardware to make the internet more trustworthy, resilient and and sustainable, both societally, economically and environmentally. NGI Zero invites you to consider to joining over 100 others in ‘working for the internet’ E. Automating networks using Salt, without running Proxy Minions (Mircea Ulinic, DigitalOcean) Salt is an agent-based open source software used to automate the management and configuration of infrastructure and application at scale. It typically requires a Salt Minion service to be running on the node managed with Salt. While this is not a blocker on any server generally speaking, in the networking world, it is not possible to install custom software on the network gear you want to manage. This is why a few years ago SaltStack, the company maintaining Salt, introduced the Proxy Minion, which is a derivative of the regular Minion, just that it doesn’t need to be installed on the targeted device, as it can run anywhere. Similar to the regular Minion, you need to manage as many Proxy Minion services as network devices you have. This comes with a considerable cost - as in managing the infrastructure, operational, training of the users, and so on - not always justified. For example, there are many cases in the networking world where we need to interact with the device only once or twice a year, however those interactions must be consistent and safe, thus automation is the only way to go; but keeping a service up and running during this time is not an ideal solution F. OpenSource Lightening Updates These are short updates on different relevant OpenSource projects. They should be 5 mins (preferably) with a maximum of 10 mins (if space allows). No formal submission required ahead of RIPE, but please send a short message to opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net (mailto:opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net) by noon on Tuesday during the RIPE if you want to present an update. Selection of talks are done on Tuesday afternoon.___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE79, Rotterdam, 14-18 Oct 2019)
The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Open Source WG - Call for Co-Chairs Nomination
It’s 2 month before our annual Fall meeting - which means it’s time for nominations to become a new co-chair of the WG. Please send your nominations within the next 21 days to the WG chairs: opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net (mailto:opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net) Deadline for nomination: Sunday, Sep 15 23:59 UTC Both of the existing chairs are willing to continue. If there are no nominations, then there will be no change. Details on Chair Selection Policy: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/open-source-working-group/open-source-wg-chair-selection-process In short: If there are NO nominations, then the existing chairs will continue. If there are nominations, then the existing chairs will have a discussion with the candidates to see if we can come to an agreement (i.e. expand to 3 chairs, replace one of us etc). If there is no agreement between all the existing chairs and the new nominations until 14 days before RIPE, then there will be a vote during the RIPE meeting. Regards, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip Open Source WG Chairs ReplyForward___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
Re: [opensource-wg] hackathon discussion at RIPE 78 opensource-wg session
On 9 Jan 2019, at 16:09, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) via opensource-wg wrote: Happy New Year Everyone! RIPE has hosted several very successful RIPE NCC Hackathons. I have helped IETF and MEF start and run a series of Hackathons. I spoke about these at RIPE 76. There was a suggestion from Vesna at that time to create a common page on which we post information about such events. The current RIPE hackathon page (https://labs.ripe.net/hackathons) is a good start. I would be happy to add to this. I would like to propose having some time at RIPE 78 to discuss open source efforts like these various hackathons, what is working well, what is not, and how we can improve them. For example, the IETF hackathons need to be better about turning hackathon code into contributions to projects that are easy to find, use, and contribute to any time rather than just in the context of the hackathon. Another example is competition. Some people think hackathons are perceived as being too competitive and non-inclusive. I do not agree, and I try to make it very clear that the IETF hackathons are collaborative and open to newcomers, but the fact I need to keep stating this means there is a problem and an opportunity to do something better. [Answering this on a personal level - not as chair] I’m always a bit torn between the usefulness of Hackathons. I also have to admit, that I never attended a RIPE hackathon (Sorry, Vesna! I really should…) On one side, I think they are interesting to bring newcomers up to speed on some interesting topic (as some hackathons are more towards getting participation) while at other times I feel more like hackathons are a exploitation for companies to give them ideas to monetize. Sometimes it also just feels like a group of people using the chance to finish some work (ie prototype implementation for a IETF draft) which they could do anywhere else as well. Just some last minute finishing up the work. But it might be an interesting discussion why someone attends (or does not attend or stopped attending) hackathons. What do others think about having some time in the opensource-wg to share information, ideas, issues, and potential solutions? Would it be better to have a workshop? What about doing both? Martin and Ondrej, I understand this is your call to make, so I hope you do not mind me posting here to help get a sense of interest and help refining the idea. [back to WG-chair mode] We are “only” the chairs, trying to figuring out what’s best or most interesting to community. So pushing this a bit back to the community: Opinions? Should we host a round-table discussion on this? Or some other form of discussion? Anyone wants to talk about good or bad experiences on a hackathon? Regards, Martin Winter ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Open Source WG - Call for Co-Chairs Nomination
It’s 2 month before our annual Fall meeting - which means it’s time for nominations to become a new co-chair of the WG. Please send your nominations within the next 14 days to the WG chairs: opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net Deadline for nomination: Sunday, Aug 26 23:59 UTC Both of the existing chairs are willing to continue. If there are no nominations, then there will be no change. Details on Chair Selection Policy: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/open-source-working-group/open-source-wg-chair-selection-process In short: If there are NO nominations, then the existing chairs will continue. If there are nominations, then the existing chairs will have a discussion with the candidates to see if we can come to an agreement (i.e. expand to 3 chairs, replace one of us etc). If there is no agreement between all the existing chairs and the new nominations until 14 days before RIPE, then there will be a vote during the RIPE meeting. Regards, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip Open Source WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE77, Amsterdam, 15-19 October 2018)
Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE77, Amsterdam, 15-19 October 2018) The next RIPE Meeting is coming up in 2 1/2 months. This is your chance to present about some interesting Open Source If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. If you consider a presentation, then please contact us as soon as possible. We would really like to avoid the last minute rush this time. Contacting the WG chairs early is your best chance to get a speaking slot. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE76, Marseilles, 14-18 Oct 2017)
Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE76, Marseilles, 14-18 May 2018) The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] 2nd Call for Opensource-WG Presentations (RIPE75, Dubai, 22-26 Oct 2017)
2nd Call for Presentations… —> Please note that because of the DCTM requirements (see below), we need to have the agenda finalized a month before RIPE. If you are interested, but don’t have it all ready, then please contact us anyway, so we can discuss and plan for it. — Open Source WG - Call for Presentation - RIPE Meeting 75, 22-26 Oct 2017, Dubai — The next RIPE Meeting is coming up again - your chance to present about some interesting Open Source If you would like to give a presentation during the OpenSource WG session, then please contact us (the WG chairs). In general, each talk is 15-30 mins (depending on how much time is needed). If you have some idea and not sure how/if you should present something then feel free to contact us as well to discuss the idea. For small project updates, we are planning to reserve 30 mins again at the end of the WG session. These short 5..10(max) min updates/talks are decided on the day before the WG session on a time/space available base. No need to submit anything for these talks at this time. Please note: Due to UAE law, confirmed speakers will need to submit a copy of their passport and contact information in advance of the meeting. More information about the DCTM requirements, see https://ripe75.ripe.net/attend/dtcm-requirements/ Thanks, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Open Source WG - Call for Co-Chairs Nomination
It’s 2 month before our annual Fall meeting - which means it’s time for nominations to become a new co-chair of the WG. Please send your nominations within the next 14 days to the WG chairs: opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net Deadline for nomination: Sunday, Sept 3 23:59 UTC (14 days nomination period) Both of the existing chairs are willing to continue. If there are no nominations, then there will be no change. Details on Chair Selection Policy: https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/open-source-working-group/open-source-wg-chair-selection-process In short: If there are NO nominations, then the existing chairs will continue. If there are nominations, then the existing chairs will have a discussion with the candidates to see if we can come to an agreement (i.e. expand to 3 chairs, replace one of us etc). If there is no agreement between all the existing chairs and the new nominations until 14 days before RIPE, then there will be a vote during the RIPE meeting. Regards, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip Open Source WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Agenda Open Source WG RIPE74, Budapest
Agenda for The OpenSource WG session (May 11, 2017, RIPE74, Budapest) A. Administrative Matters (Working Group Chairs) . Welcome . finalize agenda . approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) . review of action list B. Kea - a modern DHCP server (Tomek Mrugalski, ISC) Version 1.2 of Kea, a new DHCP solution from ISC, was released in April. It adds a number of new features: a REST API that can expose management commands over an http/JSON interface, a sample python based management client that is scripting friendly, many new commands and much more. The presentation will describe several features not common in other servers: modular storage for leases and host reservations (CSV file, MySQL, PostgreSQL, Cassandra), scalability (millions of devices handled by a single instance), flex-id (a novel, flexible method of using arbitrary part of the DHCP packet to identify a device) and several others. A brief discussion about the Kea roadmap and perhaps a sneak preview of the upcoming features will conclude the talk. C. Turris Omnia and it's crowdfunding campaign (Ondrej Filip, cz.nic) Turris Omnia is an SW and HW open source router. A launch of its production was financed by crowdfunding campaign. This presentation will show pros and cons of such funding model. And also describe difficulties in manufacturing open source hardware. It will also discuss some future possibilities for open source router development. D. RPKI Tools (Andreas Reuter, FU Berlin) The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is the fundamental routing protocol of the Internet. BGP is ultimately based on trust, which unfortunately is the cause of some glaring vulnerabilities. The Resource Public Key Infrastructure (RPKI) is part of an on-going effort to secure BGP. It provides attestation objects for Internet resources. In this talk, we first give a brief overview about the RPKI architecture, from repositories to BGP routers. Then, we introduce two open source RPKI tools, RPKI MIRO and RTRlib. RPKI MIRO is a framework to monitor and inspect RPKI repositories. Part of this is the RPKI Browser, a graphical user interface that gives convenient access to the structure of the RPKI and the content of RPKI objects. RTRlib is a C library that implements client functionality to gather data from RPKI caches and perform origin validation. It is used in several applications (e.g., Quagga) to validate and monitor BGP updates. These tools are helpful for researchers, developers of routing software, and network operators. E. FRRouting (Martin Winter, NetDEF) FRRouting is a new routing protocol suite which is based on Quagga and runs under the umbrella of the Linux Foundation. This talk introduces FRRouting. FRRouting aims to provide much faster and more test-driven development. The presentation looks at the motivation behind FRRouting, what new features it provides now, the future outlook and how to participate F. OpenSource Lightening Updates These are short updates on different relevant OpenSource projects. They should be 5 mins (preferably) with a maximum of 10 mins (if space allows). No formal submission required ahead of RIPE, but please send a short message to opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net by noon on Tuesday during the RIPE if you want to present an update. Selection of talks are done on Tuesday afternoon. See you all in Budapest! Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip Open Source WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
[opensource-wg] Agenda OpenSource-WG RIPE 73
Here is the agenda for the OpenSource-WG at the upcoming RIPE 73: A. Administrative Matters (Working Group Chairs) [5..10 mins] . Welcome . finalize agenda . approval of minutes from previous WG meeting(s) . review of action list B. PCAP BGP Parser [15 mins] Network operations increasingly relies on tools and features to perform in-depth analysis of Internet routing behavior to optimize traffic flows or dissect DDoS attacks. In particular, IXPs commonly operate software routers such as BIRD or Quagga as BGP route servers. However, the implemented data processing features and tools are somewhat limited. BIRD does not support continues BGP exports, MRT dumps allow a post-best-path-selection view only, and the tshark BGP filtering capabilities are limited, just to name a few. In this talk we present a TCP dump BGP parser to overcome these limitations. The raw packets can be captured with tcpdump at the network interface of any software router and either be processed as a live-stream or stored and analyzed subsequently. For a post mortem analysis the BGP parser comes with a rich set of filters and export formats to meet the desired level of granularity. The presentation will showcase some compelling examples. Moreover, the tool can be extended as favored since it is available as open source project at GitHub. (Christoph Dietzel, DE-CIX) C. DHCPKit presentation [20 mins] DHCPKit is a fully customisable DHCPv6 server. It was initially written for ISPs to provision FttH customers, but because of it's flexible architecture it can be used in almost any setup. Behaviour can be customised with simple plugins. Some examples are an Apache Kafka based distributed looking glass, simple CSV-file based prefix delegation and rate limiting. This presentation will give an introduction to DHCPKit and show how it can be customised. (Sander Steffann) D. Automated management of Continuous Integration Jobs When you start testing your software using continuous integration you might start small where manual management is easy. But when you grow bigger it becomes tedious and there comes point in time when you have to do it automatically. In this presentation I will look at different approaches how to use your CI in automated way using reuseable configuration to describe a CI jobs on top of several Open Source CI tools: Jenkins Job Builder // Build Bot // Gitlab CI. (Ondřej Surý, CZ.NIC) E. OpenSource Lightening Updates [20 mins] These are short updates on different relevant OpenSource projects. They should be 5 mins (preferably) with a maximum of 10 mins (if space allows). No formal submission required ahead of RIPE, but please send a short message to opensource-wg-cha...@ripe.net by noon on Tuesday during the RIPE if you want to present an update. Selection of talks are done on Tuesday afternoon. Regards, Martin Winter & Ondrej Filip OpenSource-WG Chairs ___ opensource-wg mailing list opensource-wg@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/opensource-wg
