Re: [Openstack] what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?
Dear Brian thanks for reply. May be because there is no cheap AIX, so linux and AIX can be sell in different price range. But in here, the market is : openstack compete with ESXi or ESX essential plus. We are a consultancy firm, our sales are competing with VMware sales. In HK, vmware sales even want us die. If we die, the only competitor left is microsoft.The war here is very obvious. Thanksfrom Peter Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 05:11:03 -0700 From: brian.sch...@nimbisservices.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? OpenStack is an open-source foundation with lots of potential competitors working together to build a common infrastructure. As long as they abide by the contributor license agreement anyone is welcome to participate in our open-source community. So, OpenStack doesn't have an alliance with VMware. If you are asking why VmWare chose to participate as heavily as it does in OpenStack, there is a lot of business analysis/speculation out there in the blogsphere, but the short answer is that markets change. I'm sure that there were folks wondering why IBM participated in Linux at the time when customers were making a decision beween AIX (a total vertical solution) and Linux. AIX and Linux both still exist and IBM makes money on both technologies in different markets.— Sent from Mailbox for iPad On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All What is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? In hong kong or china, customer is deciding to switch to Openstack from VMWare to save cost. There will be nobody to buy vmware solution and build openstack on top of it, and there is no one will build their cloud half in vmware and half in openstack too. They did that because of some reasons: 1) If customer have budget to purchase vmware, vmware's vendor will provide them total solution, 100% in vmware infrastructure. The vendor is not interest to sell customer with vmware solution and build an openstack on top of it, because they think it is useless. The vendors think the dashboard cannot compete with vCenter. vCenter still the best option to manage vmware. Similarly, nobody can create a tool to replace microsoft management tool for SQL server, noone will get a success. 2) for private cloud, customer is thinking *EITHER* vmware or openstack, that mean they are competitor. Why alliance with an enemy? Thanksfrom Peter (Pandora dev team) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?
Thanks Clint. If we treat VMWare as a neighbor, we meet another trouble, how can we pack openstack and vmware into a single solution? what kind of customer need such as solution? Compete with VMWare seems to be the right choice, openstack has a great advantage in price and community. People may say vmware features are still better, but we just need some more time to catch up. This is just my opinion. from Peter From: cl...@fewbar.com To: openst...@lists.openstack.org Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 09:13:13 -0700 CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] [Spam] Re: what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? Excerpts from Peter Cheung's message of 2013-07-29 07:29:10 -0700: Dear Brian thanks for reply. May be because there is no cheap AIX, so linux and AIX can be sell in different price range. But in here, the market is : openstack compete with ESXi or ESX essential plus. We are a consultancy firm, our sales are competing with VMware sales. In HK, vmware sales even want us die. If we die, the only competitor left is microsoft.The war here is very obvious. Hi Peter. I understand that at times, sales negotiations can be like war, with your client being the innocent bystanders caught in the middle. But markets are not war-zones. Wars intrinsically expend resources. Markets, however, grow resources and make things more efficient, until they are outmoded, and then they shrink naturally. So looking at VMware as a combatant on the field of battle, they are intimidating and evoke fear. I would not want to do battle with this well trained highly motivated battle group. If, however, we look at VMware as neighbors, the feelings are different. I believe that they're really just interested in developing the huge untapped resources which are basically unavailable to them without the cooperation and lower cost model of projects like OpenStack. To use an analogy, if VMware is FedEx, OpenStack is people who want efficient roads and airports. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] what is the meaning to alliance with VMWare?
Hi All What is the meaning to alliance with VMWare? In hong kong or china, customer is deciding to switch to Openstack from VMWare to save cost. There will be nobody to buy vmware solution and build openstack on top of it, and there is no one will build their cloud half in vmware and half in openstack too. They did that because of some reasons: 1) If customer have budget to purchase vmware, vmware's vendor will provide them total solution, 100% in vmware infrastructure. The vendor is not interest to sell customer with vmware solution and build an openstack on top of it, because they think it is useless. The vendors think the dashboard cannot compete with vCenter. vCenter still the best option to manage vmware. Similarly, nobody can create a tool to replace microsoft management tool for SQL server, noone will get a success. 2) for private cloud, customer is thinking *EITHER* vmware or openstack, that mean they are competitor. Why alliance with an enemy? Thanksfrom Peter (Pandora dev team) ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] Call to API very slow [Grizzly]
I am having a problem about calling API speed is up and down, something need
0.1s, something it needs 3s
Thanksfrom Peter
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 17:41:11 +0700
From: chu.ducm...@gmail.com
To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net; openst...@lists.openstack.org
Subject: [Openstack] Call to API very slow [Grizzly]
All operations in my Openstack dashboard very slow (compare to my old Openstack
deployment)
Then i do some check on an instance:
$ time curl http://169.254.169.254/openstack
2012-08-10
2013-04-04
latest
real0m5.605s
user0m0.004s
sys0m0.004s
5 seconds for a simple API query !??
in quantum-ns-metadata-proxy.log, i saw:
2013-07-25 17:17:09DEBUG [quantum.agent.metadata.namespace_proxy] Request:
GET /openstack HTTP/1.0
Accept: */*
Content-Type: text/plain
Host: 169.254.169.254
User-Agent: curl/7.22.0 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) libcurl/7.22.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1
zlib/1.2.3.4 libidn/1.23 librtmp/2.3
2013-07-25 17:17:14DEBUG [quantum.agent.metadata.namespace_proxy] {'date':
'Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:17:14 GMT', 'status': '200', 'content-length': '28',
'content-type': 'text/html; charset=UTF-8', 'content-location':
u'http://169.254.169.254/openstack'}
2013-07-25 17:17:14DEBUG [quantum.agent.metadata.namespace_proxy] 2012-08-10
2013-04-04
latest
I take a look at metadata-agent.log, and saw almost request/response finished
@17:17:09
But the last finished @17:17:14
2013-07-25 17:17:14DEBUG [quantum.agent.metadata.agent] {'date': 'Thu, 25
Jul 2013 10:17:14 GMT', 'status': '200', 'content-length': '28',
'content-type': 'text/html; charset=UTF-8', 'content-location':
u'http://172.30.1.14:8775/openstack'}
I enabled slow query log on MySql, but can't find any slow query.
Do you know possible problems in this situation?
Thank you very much!
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Re: [Openstack] Alternative dashboards for openstack?
Pandora is another dashboard for openstack. See my blog http://peter.kingofcoders.com Thanksfrom Peter Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:21:24 +0200 From: mru...@redhat.com To: dj_dark_jungl...@yahoo.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] Alternative dashboards for openstack? On 23/07/13 09:57, Jake G. wrote: Wish I was a programmer. Would be nice to be able to control and configure all of openstacks functions from the dashboard. Since the dashboard itself relies on Nova, Glance, and Keystone [1], that won't be possible. Esp. endpoints to underlying services are essential for horizon to work. Also, the dashboard doesn't use its own database etc. to safe a state. For deployment of OpenStack, there are several projects out there, such as packstack or Triple0[2] Matthias [1] https://github.com/openstack/horizon#settings-up-openstack [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TripleO ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] VM monitoring design brainstorm
Hi All https://www.dropbox.com/s/vuipa1a2ilw7z9p/titan-instance-design-20130621.png I am designing the VM monitor screen. I have asked many people, some of them used VMware for few years but their requirements are simple, most of the people told me they just need to know the CPU+RAM+network information. But I think i can do a little bit more. For example, I think it is good to record these information1) CPU+RAM+network for each app running inside the VM. So people can see why the VM so busy.2) If you are running a web server inside the VM, it would be nice to know how many concurrent connection to your server, right?3) If you are running MySQL cluster, it is nice to tell you which query is eating the memory Any other good idea? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] can one user in multiple tenants?
I understand now, the tenant is keystone user-get is the default tenant ID. User can have many roles in different tenant.But we don't have a command to list out all roles among all tenant for a specific user. take a look this screen:http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?p=779 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 00:15:52 -0400 From: ayo...@redhat.com To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] can one user in multiple tenants? On 07/18/2013 12:12 AM, Peter Cheung wrote: Hi all 1) can one user in multiple tenants? I think yes, but when i keystone user-get, i can see only one tenant field. User has a role assignemnt. The default role is Member, and they can have this role in multiple tenants. You are seeing the default tenant field. 2) how can i assign another tenant to a specific user? which command can do that? keystone user-role-add Thanks from Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] tenant Id and user ID
hi, you need 4 variables export OS_USERNAME=adminexport OS_PASSWORD=123456export OS_TENANT_NAME=adminexport OS_AUTH_URL=http://localhost:5000/v2.0/ Thanksfrom Peter From: nir...@hotmail.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com; openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: RE: [Openstack] tenant Id and user ID Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:20:59 -0400 I am a similar question. I am trying to create an image using RDO. When I do this, it is asking for username glance image-create --name Fedora 19 x86_64 --disk-format qcow2 --container-format bare --is-public true --copy-from http://cloud.fedoraproject.org/fedora-19.x86_64.qcow2 You must provide a username via either --os-username or env[OS_USERNAME] Then it is asking for tenant ID, OS_AUTH_URL. ThanksNirlayFrom: mcheun...@hotmail.com To: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 11:50:26 +0800 Subject: [Openstack] tenant Id and user ID hi all when i keystone user-role-list, why i need to pass tenantId and userId to horizon to get the user role list? Suppose the command will list out all roles for all users. 192.168.100.170.47363-192.168.100.170.35357: GET /v2.0/tenants/b721f5b1f7cd43dd83ee573f6d4e6c74/users/9a1f8c114e2f44f8a5e4889997f2cac1/roles HTTP/1.1 Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] tenant Id and user ID
hi all when i keystone user-role-list, why i need to pass tenantId and userId to horizon to get the user role list? Suppose the command will list out all roles for all users. 192.168.100.170.47363-192.168.100.170.35357: GET /v2.0/tenants/b721f5b1f7cd43dd83ee573f6d4e6c74/users/9a1f8c114e2f44f8a5e4889997f2cac1/roles HTTP/1.1 Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] can one user in multiple tenants?
Hi all 1) can one user in multiple tenants? I think yes, but when i keystone user-get, i can see only one tenant field.2) how can i assign another tenant to a specific user? which command can do that? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] Team member wanted
We can have better integrate with the administration tool. From: sputni...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 19:52:13 -0700 Subject: Re: [Openstack] Team member wanted To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net How is what you described different from Juju, Chef, or puppet? On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear All My name is Peter. We have built the download page of pandora http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?p=734 , we want to enhance it, and want some team members, we want to achieve these: Using openstack to setup many VMs, run apache/mysql cluster/mongo DB cluster on it, when the user launch a new VM, that VM will be auto-configured to join the cluster, network will be working and the node will be working too. So I think we need some kind of config engine running inside the VM, receiving the command from Pandora, doing all the configs and make it work. The idea is not fixed into apache/mysql/mongo, i just familiar with them so i choose them for a good start. This goal is interesting, imagine you build a cloud, when the traffic goes up, you just launch more VM to join the cluster, this is helping people. Challenge: 1) config engine should be able to config all the things, and it should be able to config many kinds of servers 2) networking part is very challenging to me, not sure what is the best network config settings 3) need people to do real coding Thanks from Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] Team member wanted
Thanks Robert, thinking to integrate heat Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:01:59 +1200 Subject: Re: [Openstack] Team member wanted From: robe...@robertcollins.net To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: sputni...@gmail.com; openstack@lists.launchpad.net BTW 'Heat' is the OpenStack project aiming at this sort of dynamic scale-up/scale-down facilities. It would be interesting to know whats different between Pandora's goals and Heats. -Rob -- Robert Collins rbtcoll...@hp.com Distinguished Technologist HP Cloud Services ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] Team member wanted
Dear AllMy name is Peter. We have built the download page of pandora http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?p=734 , we want to enhance it, and want some team members, we want to achieve these: Using openstack to setup many VMs, run apache/mysql cluster/mongo DB cluster on it, when the user launch a new VM, that VM will be auto-configured to join the cluster, network will be working and the node will be working too. So I think we need some kind of config engine running inside the VM, receiving the command from Pandora, doing all the configs and make it work. The idea is not fixed into apache/mysql/mongo, i just familiar with them so i choose them for a good start. This goal is interesting, imagine you build a cloud, when the traffic goes up, you just launch more VM to join the cluster, this is helping people. Challenge:1) config engine should be able to config all the things, and it should be able to config many kinds of servers 2) networking part is very challenging to me, not sure what is the best network config settings 3) need people to do real coding Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] which API can do these?
Hi AnneIf I modify the flavor, the vm doesn't take effect immediately. So how can i add more cpu to a running instance? Thanksfrom Peter From: a...@openstack.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:23:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Openstack] which API can do these? To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Hi Peter, Some doc links below. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All which API can do these? 1) adjust the RAM size, no of CPU core to an instance For 1) the keyword you want to look for in the docs is flavors. You can read more at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/flavors.html. It indicates that you can use nova flavor-create -- note that you're technically not modifying an existing flavor, you're creating a new flavor and renaming it. Use nova --debug flavor-create to see the API commands associated with these adjustments to flavors. 2) enlarge a disk to an instance This is also specified in flavors. 3) get the information about ram/cpu/disk size of an instance You want this I believe. http://api.openstack.org/api-ref.html#ext-os-flavorextradata Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] which API can do these?
I double checked the cpu hotplug for kvm, website said it has a lot of bugs and removed from mainstream. Thanksfrom Peter From: mcheun...@hotmail.com To: a...@openstack.org Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:54:01 +0800 CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] which API can do these? Hi AnneIf I modify the flavor, the vm doesn't take effect immediately. So how can i add more cpu to a running instance? Thanksfrom Peter From: a...@openstack.org Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 11:23:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Openstack] which API can do these? To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Hi Peter, Some doc links below. On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 4:59 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All which API can do these? 1) adjust the RAM size, no of CPU core to an instance For 1) the keyword you want to look for in the docs is flavors. You can read more at http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-ops/content/flavors.html. It indicates that you can use nova flavor-create -- note that you're technically not modifying an existing flavor, you're creating a new flavor and renaming it. Use nova --debug flavor-create to see the API commands associated with these adjustments to flavors. 2) enlarge a disk to an instance This is also specified in flavors. 3) get the information about ram/cpu/disk size of an instance You want this I believe. http://api.openstack.org/api-ref.html#ext-os-flavorextradata Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] which API can do these?
Hi All which API can do these? 1) adjust the RAM size, no of CPU core to an instance2) enlarge a disk to an instance3) get the information about ram/cpu/disk size of an instance Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] swift
Hi AllHow you guy admin swift? by command line or by www.swiftstack.com admin portal? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] openstack OS image
Hi all i am build an OS image download page for pandora, it is pretty much like the new VM page in azure. http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?p=734 Where i can download some pre-built os image for openstack? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] openstack OS image
Thanks a lot Pae Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:40:09 -0700 Subject: Re: [Openstack] openstack OS image From: sputni...@gmail.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net http://lmgtfy.com/?q=openstack+vm+image+download What you want is the 4th link (as of this writing) On Sunday, July 7, 2013, Peter Cheung wrote: Hi all i am build an OS image download page for pandora, it is pretty much like the new VM page in azure. http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?p=734 Where i can download some pre-built os image for openstack? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] nova bug?
hi guys, Is it a nova bug? https://www.dropbox.com/s/88d9172a1838arr/nova%20boot%20error.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/v16akkm7zw75ztk/nova%20boot%20error%202.png Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] nova bug?
Thanks Benfrom Peter Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 23:10:21 -0400 Subject: Re: [Openstack] nova bug? From: andrews...@gmail.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: a...@c2square.com; bruce...@cyberport.hk; openstack@lists.launchpad.net; lee7...@hotmail.com It looks like the instance type selected had 2 cores per. The quota message was stating you requested 40 cores. Ben On Jul 7, 2013 11:00 PM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: hi guys, Is it a nova bug? https://www.dropbox.com/s/88d9172a1838arr/nova%20boot%20error.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/v16akkm7zw75ztk/nova%20boot%20error%202.png Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] openstack pandora tester
Dear All I am building a pandora testing site, so people don't need to install the pandora server to test the pandora client. It would be easier for people who want to try pandora. But our testing servers is still building, at the same time it can allow 10 people to connect and create 4 VMs for eash user. Please leave me your email if you want to try. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoEcIESTbvpwdEhaVVE1U3A4MzV1M0k0T1dNYXdZLUEusp=sharing Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] ifup script
Hihow to launch a VM through API and add this parameter to kvm -net tap,script=/etc/ovs-ifup, downscript=/etc/ovs-ifdown? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] quantum/neutron plugin development tutorial/guide
Hi all Any good quantum/neutron plugin development tutorial/guide ? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] Grizzly openstack installation - tutorial/guide
I use devstack, i can install it in 5 linux commands. Thanksfrom Peter From: raghavendra@accenture.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com; openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Grizzly openstack installation - tutorial/guide Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:49:18 + Hi Team, Any easy simple guide/tutorial for the Grizzly openstack installation? Regards, Raghavendra Lad This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the e-mail by you is prohibited. Where allowed by local law, electronic communications with Accenture and its affiliates, including e-mail and instant messaging (including content), may be scanned by our systems for the purposes of information security and assessment of internal compliance with Accenture policy. __ www.accenture.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum
Hi KyleIs Neutron support this1) create vlan, adding a port(tap) for a vm?2) create vlan tag and assign to tap http://openvswitch.org/support/config-cookbooks/vlan-configuration-cookbook/ ?3) control the netflow of openvswitch4) control the QOS of openvswitch5) does it provide an API to do the avobe things instead of command line? I think commercial user need to above things, so we want to support those actions in pandora. Thanksfrom Peter From: kmest...@cisco.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:42:43 + On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear All I want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do 1) i use alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot 100% control the OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the additional features. Which features of OVS are you interested in which are currently not exposed through Neutron (formerly Quantum)? 2) i shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS directly. But which parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a VM? nova-networking is planned to be deprecated in the near future, FYI. It may be better to address your concerns in Neutron. Can you let us know what you're looking for in particular in OVS which is not exposed in Neutron yet? Thanks, Kyle Thanks from Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] openvswitch instead of quantum
Hi Salvatore, Pandora is our open source admin UI for openstack https://code.google.com/p/c2-pandora/ On 22 June 2013 12:23, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks SalvatoreI am thinking these:1) openvswitch has more features than quantum, so i want to support it in pandora first, then later to support quantum I think this statement is a bit incorrect, or at least deserves clarification.Open vSwitch is a multi-layer virtual switch, whereas Quantum is a management tool for cloud networks. I don't know then what you mean by stating Open vSwitch has more features than Quantum; there are surely features of Open vSwitch which are not leveraged by Quantum - perhaps are you referring to this? We are making the network management UI, we are thinking we should control the openvswitch directly, or control the quantum. In openvswitch, there are some features needed by our commercial users, such as Qos, netflow monitoring, vlan and vlan tag. I am not sure the quantum API can address these things. 2) openvswitch seems doesn't provide API, still don't know how to control it programatically. May be i send command in command-pipeline then parse the output. But this is not a good practice. Openvswitch exposes interfaces for managing the switch layout and switch forwarding. They're the OVSDB [1,2] and Openflow interfaces. On openvswitch.org there's plenty of information about how to use them. Again, if you're looking at API like 'create_network' or 'create_subnet' on Openvswitch you are probably not looking in the right place; in this case you might look at a controller or a management system. thanks :D 3) i want to do live-migration with auto network transfer in pandora. So i need to control a vswitch. It seems then you need to develop your own control plane. Frankly I have not idea of what you mean by auto network transfer.I assume you've already looked at Floodlight, Open Daylight, and perhaps even at the Quantum's OVS/ML2 plugins (which implement a control plane too), and you're positive that they cannot satisfy your requirements, so you need to write something new? [1] http://networkheresy.com/tag/ovsdb/[2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pfaff-ovsdb-proto-02 no, we are not going to develop a new virtual switch, we don't have enough man power and don't want to reinvent the wheel. We just want to embed a network control in Pandora, so people can use it to admin their network, same way as they use ESX server. In a basic VM environment, i think people need these thing:1) QOS control2) VLan3) netflow monitoring4) link up mulitple vswitch to form a bigger network Really not sure the quantum API can do that or not. Thanks for you reply, Peter !!! Thanks from Peter Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:14:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [Openstack] openvswitch instead of quantum From: sorla...@nicira.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Yes, it is a very common use case.Nowadays, everybody who deploys Xen, KVM, or LXC without a Cloud Management System is actually using Open vSwitch.In that case you can program Open vSwitch using its own interface to provide virtual networks. When deploying Openstack, you can use Open vSwitch without Quantum by deploying nova-network instead.As far as I know every nova-network manager works with Open vSwitch too. Salvatore On 22 June 2013 09:14, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: HiAny people is using open vswitch directly, instead of sing quantum?Is it a common practice? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum
Thanks Salvatore. I think i should use Neutron to do all the stuffs first, because Neutron is the primary network component of openstack. If it doesn't support some functions, i just direct control the openvswitch, I hope i won't break the neutron. Thanksfrom Peter Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:06:25 +0100 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum From: sorla...@nicira.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: kmest...@cisco.com; openstack@lists.launchpad.net A few comments inline from my side. On 24 June 2013 14:53, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi KyleIs Neutron support this1) create vlan, adding a port(tap) for a vm? I think this is one of Neutron's basic use cases, unless I'm missing something. 2) create vlan tag and assign to tap http://openvswitch.org/support/config-cookbooks/vlan-configuration-cookbook/ ? I'm not sure I see the difference with the previous case.Are you referring to the ability of tagging a port which was not tagged before? 3) control the netflow of openvswitch Nope, this is not supported by Neutron at the moment.However, you can add an extension for it, if you wish. 4) control the QOS of openvswitch This feature is not supported by the 'reference' open source plugin (Open vSwitch, Linux Bridge). From what I gather now even the new ML2 plugin will have this capability. Approaches for QoS in open source Quantum plugin have been recently debated, but this feature is not on the roadmap for Havana. 5) does it provide an API to do the avobe things instead of command line? Neutron does *everything* through an API. I think commercial user need to above things, so we want to support those actions in pandora. Thanksfrom Peter From: kmest...@cisco.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:42:43 + On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear All I want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do 1) i use alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot 100% control the OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the additional features. Which features of OVS are you interested in which are currently not exposed through Neutron (formerly Quantum)? 2) i shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS directly. But which parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a VM? nova-networking is planned to be deprecated in the near future, FYI. It may be better to address your concerns in Neutron. Can you let us know what you're looking for in particular in OVS which is not exposed in Neutron yet? Thanks, Kyle Thanks from Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] OVS and quantum
Dear AllI want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do1) i use alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot 100% control the OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the additional features.2) i shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS directly. But which parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a VM? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] openvswitch instead of quantum
HiAny people is using open vswitch directly, instead of sing quantum?Is it a common practice? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] openvswitch instead of quantum
Thanks SalvatoreI am thinking these:1) openvswitch has more features than quantum, so i want to support it in pandora first, then later to support quantum2) openvswitch seems doesn't provide API, still don't know how to control it programatically. May be i send command in command-pipeline then parse the output. But this is not a good practice.3) i want to do live-migration with auto network transfer in pandora. So i need to control a vswitch. Thanksfrom Peter Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:14:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [Openstack] openvswitch instead of quantum From: sorla...@nicira.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Yes, it is a very common use case.Nowadays, everybody who deploys Xen, KVM, or LXC without a Cloud Management System is actually using Open vSwitch.In that case you can program Open vSwitch using its own interface to provide virtual networks. When deploying Openstack, you can use Open vSwitch without Quantum by deploying nova-network instead.As far as I know every nova-network manager works with Open vSwitch too. Salvatore On 22 June 2013 09:14, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: HiAny people is using open vswitch directly, instead of sing quantum?Is it a common practice? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] openVSwitch and quantum GUI interface
Hi Kyle we are developing a software call Pandora http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?cat=26. we want it to be a single point of management of openstack, compete with ESXi/vCenter. So we want to integrate network and storage management to it. Thanks for replyfrom Peter From: kmest...@cisco.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] openVSwitch and quantum GUI interface Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:21:51 + On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All i want to build a GUI interface for openVSwitch and quantum, who is interest? Is this something which can be done in the context of Horizon? There has been increasing improvements and refinements around Quantum in Horizon, which is the reason I bring this up. Thanks, Kyle Thanks from Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] openVSwitch and quantum GUI interface
Hi EdgarWe are not leaving horizon, we just re-create an admin software to replace dashboard. Our customers complain dashboard can't fullfill their requirement, they want to do the same thing they can do in VMWare vCenter. Pandora direction is to compete with vCenter. Our road map is to support vMotion, better storage support for EMC/netapp/whatever, admin the network (vxlan/vlan tag/etc...) Thanksfrom Peter Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:50:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Openstack] openVSwitch and quantum GUI interface From: emag...@plumgrid.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com; kmest...@cisco.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Peter, Isn't Openstack a single point of management already?This project sounds interesting but I would like to understand the differences with the current Horizon project and Openstack itself. Thanks in advance, Edgar From: Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com Date: Monday, June 17, 2013 9:18 AM To: Kyle Mestery (kmestery) kmest...@cisco.com Cc: openstack@lists.launchpad.net openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] openVSwitch and quantum GUI interface Hi Kyle we are developing a software call Pandora http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?cat=26. we want it to be a single point of management of openstack, compete with ESXi/vCenter. So we want to integrate network and storage management to it. Thanks for replyfrom Peter From: kmest...@cisco.com To: mcheun...@hotmail.com CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] openVSwitch and quantum GUI interface Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:21:51 + On Jun 16, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All i want to build a GUI interface for openVSwitch and quantum, who is interest? Is this something which can be done in the context of Horizon? There has been increasing improvements and refinements around Quantum in Horizon, which is the reason I bring this up. Thanks, Kyle Thanks from Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] openVSwitch and quantum GUI interface
Hi All i want to build a GUI interface for openVSwitch and quantum, who is interest? Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Openstack] kvm performance monitoring for one single VM
Dear AllMy name is Peter, i am working on a open source project called Pandora. It is a new admin console for openstack. http://peter.kingofcoders.com/?p=663How to do performance monitor for single VM? For public cloud billing system, i need to know information about CPU/memory/IO traction/Network bandwidth for that VM Thanksfrom Peter ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Openstack] [HyperV][Ceilometer] Performance statistics from Hyper-V with Ceilometer and libvirt
I would love to test the ceilometer on KVM From: apilo...@cloudbasesolutions.com To: brunnop.olive...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 17:28:27 + CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openstack] [HyperV][Ceilometer] Performance statistics from Hyper-V with Ceilometer and libvirt Hi Bruno, We just started implementing the Ceilometer Hyper-V inspector for the compute agent (see hyper-v-agent blueprint). Let me know if you'd like to help in testing it. :-) Thanks, Alessandro On Jun 6, 2013, at 00:40 , Bruno Oliveira brunnop.olive...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Stackers, Please I'd like to ask your expertise on ceilometer to try an approach for monitoring a compute nova running hyper-v I got a running environment of devstack with KVM on a single-node machine being fully monitored by ceilometer. I'm being able to access its API to see the data collected as well. On the other hand, I'm using Cloudbase's (cloudbase.it) Openstack Compute Hyper-V Installer (driver), which greatly help me deploying VMs from the devstack node to the hyper-v server. All is working smoothly. So far, in the irc channel #openstack-ceilometer, I got to know that ceilometer, just like collectd, uses libvirt to query the hypervisors for data (thanks dhellmann !). BUT if check in the libvirt.org site, it's being said that there's support for Hyper-V: http://libvirt.org/drvhyperv.html (given a uri to connect to it). 1. So I'm wondering if all I need to get Ceilometer working for windows would be compiling it under my windows envionment with mingw chaintool, for example? 2. Has anyone ever tried this or got any other way to make it data collection from hyper-v successful ? 3. Do you guys have any other approach that you would suggest (installing snmp on each of the cloud servers/instances is not an option) ? Please, share your thoughts. I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you very very much. -- Bruno Oliveira Developer, Software Engineer ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~openstack Post to : openstack@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~openstack More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
