Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
In this case, I see the mentoring to be more like “office hours”, which can be done by ci operators & other volunteers spread across time zones. I think this is a great idea. Ramy From: Kurt Taylor [mailto:kurt.r.tay...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:39 AM To: Stefano Maffulli Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli mailto:stef...@openstack.org>> wrote: On 12/05/2014 07:08 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote: > 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at > this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content > to justify having two meetings every week. I'd like to discuss this further: the stated objectives of the meetings are very wide and may allow for more than one slot per week. In particular I'm seeing the two below as good candidates for 'meet as many times as possible': * to provide a forum for the curious and for OpenStack programs who are not yet in this space but may be in the future * to encourage questions from third party folks and support the sourcing of answers As I mentioned above, probably one way to do this is to make some slots more focused on engaging newcomers and answering questions, more like serendipitous mentoring sessions with the less involved, while another slot could be dedicated to more focused and long term efforts, with more committed people? This is an excellent idea, let's split the meetings into: 1) Mentoring - mentoring new CI team members and operators, help them understand infra tools and processes. Anita can continue her fantastic work here. 2) Working Group - working meeting for documentation, reviewing patches for relevant work, and improving the consumability of infra CI components. I will be happy to chair these meetings initially. I am sure I can get help with these meetings for the other time zones also. With this approach we can also continue to use the new meeting times voted on by the group, and each is focused on targeting a specific group with very different needs. Thanks Stefano! Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > > On 12/05/2014 07:08 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote: > > 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at > > this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content > > to justify having two meetings every week. > > I'd like to discuss this further: the stated objectives of the meetings > are very wide and may allow for more than one slot per week. In > particular I'm seeing the two below as good candidates for 'meet as many > times as possible': > >* to provide a forum for the curious and for OpenStack programs who > are not yet in this space but may be in the future >* to encourage questions from third party folks and support the > sourcing of answers > > > > As I mentioned above, probably one way to do this is to make some slots > more focused on engaging newcomers and answering questions, more like > serendipitous mentoring sessions with the less involved, while another > slot could be dedicated to more focused and long term efforts, with more > committed people? > This is an excellent idea, let's split the meetings into: 1) Mentoring - mentoring new CI team members and operators, help them understand infra tools and processes. Anita can continue her fantastic work here. 2) Working Group - working meeting for documentation, reviewing patches for relevant work, and improving the consumability of infra CI components. I will be happy to chair these meetings initially. I am sure I can get help with these meetings for the other time zones also. With this approach we can also continue to use the new meeting times voted on by the group, and each is focused on targeting a specific group with very different needs. Thanks Stefano! Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
On 12/05/2014 07:08 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote: > 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at > this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content > to justify having two meetings every week. I'd like to discuss this further: the stated objectives of the meetings are very wide and may allow for more than one slot per week. In particular I'm seeing the two below as good candidates for 'meet as many times as possible': * to provide a forum for the curious and for OpenStack programs who are not yet in this space but may be in the future * to encourage questions from third party folks and support the sourcing of answers https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Goals_for_Third_Party_meetings > 2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be > undone at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be > difficult to keep consistent direction with the overall work group. I think this needs to be clarified for all teams, not just third-party: I disagree that important decisions should be taken on IRC. IRC is the place where discussions happen and agreements may form among a group of people, but ultimately the communication and the actual *decision* needs to happen on the wider email list channel. > My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, [...] I'm not going to enter into the specific, as I'm sure you're already aware and weighted the disadvantages of alternating times and multiple dates. Only I'd ask you to communicate clearly times and objectives on the team's and meetings wiki pages. There are now three slots listed: Mondays at 1500 UTC, chair Anita Mondays at 1800 UTC, chair (I'm assuming it's Kurt) Tuesdays at 0800 UTC, chair Anita I would suggest you to make an effort to split the agenda across the three slots, if you think it's possible, or assign priority topics from the stated goals of the meetings so that people will know what to expect each time. The objective of the meetings should be to engage more people in different timezones, while avoiding confusion. Let me know if you need help editing the pages. As I mentioned above, probably one way to do this is to make some slots more focused on engaging newcomers and answering questions, more like serendipitous mentoring sessions with the less involved, while another slot could be dedicated to more focused and long term efforts, with more committed people? Cheers, stef PS let's continue the conversation only on -infra. I'm replying including -dev only because I think the point "2. Decisions" needed to be clarified for all. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
With Kurt Taylor. +1 Very nice idea to start with. -- Trinath Somanchi - B39208 trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 From: Kurt Taylor [mailto:kurt.r.tay...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 8:39 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the table is to have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of 1800UTC on Monday and, also in the same week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday. Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach: 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content to justify having two meetings every week. 2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be undone at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be difficult to keep consistent direction with the overall work group. 3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a long-term chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be able to attend this new meeting at the proposed time. 4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the current time of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main reason it is hard for EU and APAC CI Operators to attend. My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, just as other work groups have done to solve this problem. (See examples at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings) I volunteered to chair, then ask other CI Operators to chair as the meetings evolved. The meeting times could be any between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US and Europe, the next week for APAC. Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com<mailto:trinath.soman...@freescale.com> mailto:trinath.soman...@freescale.com>> wrote: +1. -- Trinath Somanchi - B39208 trinath.soman...@freescale.com<mailto:trinath.soman...@freescale.com> | extn: 4048 -Original Message- From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info<mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM To: openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote: > Hello Anteaya, > > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel). > > > Thanks > Omri > > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Hesketh > [mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com<mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com>] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage > questions); > openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for > Additional Meeting for third-party > > Hey, > > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw. > > Cheers, > Josh > > Rackspace Australia > > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote: >> anteaya, >> >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china. >> >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and >> dinner.) >> >> Yongi He >> -Original Message- >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info<mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM >> To: openstack Development Mailing List; >> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org> >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for >> third-party >> >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start >> up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North >> American time zones. >> >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The >> current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since >> Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for >> Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. >> >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is >> in Australia. >> >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and >> then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. >> >> Thanks everyone,
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
I agree that 2 meetings per week will mess things up. 1+ for alternating meetings. On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Kurt Taylor wrote: > In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the table is > to have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of 1800UTC on Monday > and, also in the same week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday. > > Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach: > > 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at > this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content to > justify having two meetings every week. > > 2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be undone > at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be difficult to keep > consistent direction with the overall work group. > > 3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a long-term > chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be able to attend this > new meeting at the proposed time. > > 4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the current > time of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main reason it is hard > for EU and APAC CI Operators to attend. > > My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, just > as other work groups have done to solve this problem. (See examples at: > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings) I volunteered to chair, then > ask other CI Operators to chair as the meetings evolved. The meeting times > could be any between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US > and Europe, the next week for APAC. > > Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) > > > On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com < > trinath.soman...@freescale.com> wrote: > >> +1. >> >> -- >> Trinath Somanchi - B39208 >> trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] >> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM >> To: openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for >> Additional Meeting for third-party >> >> On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote: >> > Hello Anteaya, >> > >> > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel). >> > >> > >> > Thanks >> > Omri >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com] >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM >> > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage >> > questions); openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for >> > Additional Meeting for third-party >> > >> > Hey, >> > >> > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Josh >> > >> > Rackspace Australia >> > >> > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote: >> >> anteaya, >> >> >> >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for >> china. >> >> >> >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC >> >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and >> >> dinner.) >> >> >> >> Yongi He >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] >> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM >> >> To: openstack Development Mailing List; >> >> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for >> >> third-party >> >> >> >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to >> start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from >> non-North American time zones. >> >> >> >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. >> The current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well >> since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works >> for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. >> >> >> >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, >> he is in Australia. >> >> >> >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those >> interested and then we can narrow it
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
+1 for revolving meetings From: Kurt Taylor To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) ; openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Sent: Friday, December 5, 2014 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the table is to have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of 1800UTC on Monday and, also in the same week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday. Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach: 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content to justify having two meetings every week. 2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be undone at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be difficult to keep consistent direction with the overall work group. 3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a long-term chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be able to attend this new meeting at the proposed time. 4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the current time of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main reason it is hard for EU and APAC CI Operators to attend. My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, just as other work groups have done to solve this problem. (See examples at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings) I volunteered to chair, then ask other CI Operators to chair as the meetings evolved. The meeting times could be any between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US and Europe, the next week for APAC. Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com wrote: +1. -- Trinath Somanchi - B39208 trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 -Original Message- From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM To: openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote: > Hello Anteaya, > > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel). > > > Thanks > Omri > > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage > questions); openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for > Additional Meeting for third-party > > Hey, > > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw. > > Cheers, > Josh > > Rackspace Australia > > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote: >> anteaya, >> >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china. >> >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and >> dinner.) >> >> Yongi He >> -Original Message- >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM >> To: openstack Development Mailing List; >> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for >> third-party >> >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start >> up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North >> American time zones. >> >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The >> current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since >> Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for >> Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. >> >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is >> in Australia. >> >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and >> then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. >> >> Thanks everyone, >> Anita. >> Okay first of all thanks to everyone who replied. Again, to clarify, the purpose of this thread has been to find a suitable additional third-party meeting time geared towards folks in EU and APAC. We live on a sphere, there is no time that will suit everyone. It looks like we are converging on 0800 UTC as a time and I am going to suggest Tuesdays. We have very little competition for space at that date + time combination so we can use #openstack-meeting (I
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the table is to have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of 1800UTC on Monday and, also in the same week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday. Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach: 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content to justify having two meetings every week. 2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be undone at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be difficult to keep consistent direction with the overall work group. 3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a long-term chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be able to attend this new meeting at the proposed time. 4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the current time of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main reason it is hard for EU and APAC CI Operators to attend. My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, just as other work groups have done to solve this problem. (See examples at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings) I volunteered to chair, then ask other CI Operators to chair as the meetings evolved. The meeting times could be any between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US and Europe, the next week for APAC. Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, trinath.soman...@freescale.com < trinath.soman...@freescale.com> wrote: > +1. > > -- > Trinath Somanchi - B39208 > trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 > > -Original Message- > From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM > To: openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for > Additional Meeting for third-party > > On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote: > > Hello Anteaya, > > > > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel). > > > > > > Thanks > > Omri > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM > > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage > > questions); openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for > > Additional Meeting for third-party > > > > Hey, > > > > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw. > > > > Cheers, > > Josh > > > > Rackspace Australia > > > > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote: > >> anteaya, > >> > >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china. > >> > >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC > >> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and > >> dinner.) > >> > >> Yongi He > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] > >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM > >> To: openstack Development Mailing List; > >> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for > >> third-party > >> > >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to > start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from > non-North American time zones. > >> > >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The > current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well > since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works > for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. > >> > >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, > he is in Australia. > >> > >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested > and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. > >> > >> Thanks everyone, > >> Anita. > >> > > Okay first of all thanks to everyone who replied. > > Again, to clarify, the purpose of this thread has been to find a suitable > additional third-party meeting time geared towards folks in EU and APAC. We > live on a sphere, there is no time that will suit everyone. > > It looks like we are converging on 0800 UTC as a time and I am going to > suggest Tuesdays. We have very little competition for space at that date > + time combination so we can
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
Whoops too many mailing lists. Forwarded Message Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2014 17:25:05 -0500 From: Anita Kuno To: openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote: > Hello Anteaya, > > A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel). > > > Thanks > Omri > > -Original Message- > From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com] > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM > To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); > openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for > Additional Meeting for third-party > > Hey, > > 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw. > > Cheers, > Josh > > Rackspace Australia > > On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote: >> anteaya, >> >> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china. >> >> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC 7:00 AM to >> UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and dinner.) >> >> Yongi He >> -Original Message- >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM >> To: openstack Development Mailing List; openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for >> third-party >> >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start >> up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North >> American time zones. >> >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The >> current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since >> Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for >> Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. >> >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is >> in Australia. >> >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and >> then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. >> >> Thanks everyone, >> Anita. >> Okay first of all thanks to everyone who replied. Again, to clarify, the purpose of this thread has been to find a suitable additional third-party meeting time geared towards folks in EU and APAC. We live on a sphere, there is no time that will suit everyone. It looks like we are converging on 0800 UTC as a time and I am going to suggest Tuesdays. We have very little competition for space at that date + time combination so we can use #openstack-meeting (I have already booked the space on the wikipage). So barring further discussion, see you then! Thanks everyone, Anita. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
Hello Anteaya, A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel). Thanks Omri -Original Message- From: Joshua Hesketh [mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party Hey, 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw. Cheers, Josh Rackspace Australia On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote: > anteaya, > > UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china. > > if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC 7:00 AM to > UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and dinner.) > > Yongi He > -Original Message- > From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM > To: openstack Development Mailing List; openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for > third-party > > One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start > up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North > American time zones. > > Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The > current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since > Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe > and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. > > Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is > in Australia. > > Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and > then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. > > Thanks everyone, > Anita. > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > OpenStack-Infra mailing list > openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
Hey, 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw. Cheers, Josh Rackspace Australia On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote: anteaya, UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china. if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and dinner.) Yongi He -Original Message- From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM To: openstack Development Mailing List; openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North American time zones. Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is in Australia. Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. Thanks everyone, Anita. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
1800UTC should generally work for Europe. The only issue is that it falls right around dinner time. It is however a good timing since most of the night hours fall over the pacific ocean. Therefore I tend to agree with Joshua's proposal since with that time range most of the night hours would fall over the atlantic. Ideally 0600UTC is perfectly symmetric to the other meeting time, but it might be a bit tricky for western and central Europe, especially during winter. Anytime between 0700UTC and 0900UTC would be better for Europe, but might fall towards dinner time for Australia and be a bit uncomfortable for New Zealand during their summer. Anyway, this proposal would make the meeting time prohibitive for eastern/central US & Canada as well as South America. I don't know if that's acceptable considering that, from what I gather, most of the regular attendees come from those time zones. Regards, Salvatore On 2 December 2014 at 12:44, Kurt Taylor wrote: > Thanks for starting this discussion Anita. > > The existing meeting time on Monday has never worked well for me. We could > follow what other working groups have done, having alternating meeting > times to accommodate everyone. > > I propose that we have 2 meetings of Third-party CI Ops, alternating weeks: > Wednesday 1400 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3 > Wednesday 2200 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3 > > Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) > > > On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Nurit Vilosny wrote: > >> HI, >> Thanks Anita for pushing it. We will be able to be much more involved if >> meetings would be earlier. >> We're located in Israel, so Mondays anytime between 8:00 - 16:00, will be >> ideal for us. >> >> Nurit >> >> -Original Message- >> From: trinath.soman...@freescale.com [mailto: >> trinath.soman...@freescale.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:32 AM >> To: Anita Kuno; openstack Development Mailing List; >> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for >> Additional Meeting for third-party >> >> Hi- >> >> Its nice to have CI operators meetings. >> >> I'm from India, Its okay for me for 05:00AM UTC on Tuesdays. >> >> -- >> Trinath Somanchi - B39208 >> trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] >> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:37 AM >> To: openstack Development Mailing List; >> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> Subject: [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for >> third-party >> >> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to >> start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from >> non-North American time zones. >> >> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The >> current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well >> since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works >> for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. >> >> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he >> is in Australia. >> >> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested >> and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. >> >> Thanks everyone, >> Anita. >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-Infra mailing list >> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> >> ___ >> OpenStack-dev mailing list >> OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org >> http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev >> > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
Thanks for starting this discussion Anita. The existing meeting time on Monday has never worked well for me. We could follow what other working groups have done, having alternating meeting times to accommodate everyone. I propose that we have 2 meetings of Third-party CI Ops, alternating weeks: Wednesday 1400 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3 Wednesday 2200 UTC in #openstack-meeting-3 Kurt Taylor (krtaylor) On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 2:46 AM, Nurit Vilosny wrote: > HI, > Thanks Anita for pushing it. We will be able to be much more involved if > meetings would be earlier. > We're located in Israel, so Mondays anytime between 8:00 - 16:00, will be > ideal for us. > > Nurit > > -Original Message- > From: trinath.soman...@freescale.com [mailto: > trinath.soman...@freescale.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:32 AM > To: Anita Kuno; openstack Development Mailing List; > openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for > Additional Meeting for third-party > > Hi- > > Its nice to have CI operators meetings. > > I'm from India, Its okay for me for 05:00AM UTC on Tuesdays. > > -- > Trinath Somanchi - B39208 > trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 > > -Original Message- > From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:37 AM > To: openstack Development Mailing List; > openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for > third-party > > One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to > start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from > non-North American time zones. > > Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The > current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well > since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works > for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. > > Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he > is in Australia. > > Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested > and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. > > Thanks everyone, > Anita. > > ___ > OpenStack-Infra mailing list > openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
HI, Thanks Anita for pushing it. We will be able to be much more involved if meetings would be earlier. We're located in Israel, so Mondays anytime between 8:00 - 16:00, will be ideal for us. Nurit -Original Message- From: trinath.soman...@freescale.com [mailto:trinath.soman...@freescale.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 10:32 AM To: Anita Kuno; openstack Development Mailing List; openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party Hi- Its nice to have CI operators meetings. I'm from India, Its okay for me for 05:00AM UTC on Tuesdays. -- Trinath Somanchi - B39208 trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 -Original Message- From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:37 AM To: openstack Development Mailing List; openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North American time zones. Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is in Australia. Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. Thanks everyone, Anita. ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
Hi- Its nice to have CI operators meetings. I'm from India, Its okay for me for 05:00AM UTC on Tuesdays. -- Trinath Somanchi - B39208 trinath.soman...@freescale.com | extn: 4048 -Original Message- From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 1:37 AM To: openstack Development Mailing List; openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org Subject: [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North American time zones. Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is in Australia. Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. Thanks everyone, Anita. ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
Hey, So to suit most APAC business hours we'd be looking somewhere between 00:00am -> 09:00am UTC. So we have a starting point, how would 00:00am Tuesday UTC suit people? For China that would be 8am, for Australia 11am (when in daylight savings). Cheers, Josh Rackspace Australia On 12/2/14 7:07 AM, Anita Kuno wrote: One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North American time zones. Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is in Australia. Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. Thanks everyone, Anita. ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party
hi anita,i am located in india, so, would prefer something slightly earlier, maybe 1-2 hours.thanks for checking. From: Anita Kuno To: openstack Development Mailing List ; "openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org" Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 1:37 AM Subject: [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for third-party One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North American time zones. Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal. Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is in Australia. Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and then we can narrow it down and pick a channel. Thanks everyone, Anita. ___ OpenStack-Infra mailing list openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-infra ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
