On 12/05/2014 07:08 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote: > 1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at > this stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content > to justify having two meetings every week.
I'd like to discuss this further: the stated objectives of the meetings are very wide and may allow for more than one slot per week. In particular I'm seeing the two below as good candidates for 'meet as many times as possible': * to provide a forum for the curious and for OpenStack programs who are not yet in this space but may be in the future * to encourage questions from third party folks and support the sourcing of answers https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Goals_for_Third_Party_meetings > 2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be > undone at the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be > difficult to keep consistent direction with the overall work group. I think this needs to be clarified for all teams, not just third-party: I disagree that important decisions should be taken on IRC. IRC is the place where discussions happen and agreements may form among a group of people, but ultimately the communication and the actual *decision* needs to happen on the wider email list channel. > My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, [...] I'm not going to enter into the specific, as I'm sure you're already aware and weighted the disadvantages of alternating times and multiple dates. Only I'd ask you to communicate clearly times and objectives on the team's and meetings wiki pages. There are now three slots listed: Mondays at 1500 UTC, chair Anita Mondays at 1800 UTC, chair (I'm assuming it's Kurt) Tuesdays at 0800 UTC, chair Anita I would suggest you to make an effort to split the agenda across the three slots, if you think it's possible, or assign priority topics from the stated goals of the meetings so that people will know what to expect each time. The objective of the meetings should be to engage more people in different timezones, while avoiding confusion. Let me know if you need help editing the pages. As I mentioned above, probably one way to do this is to make some slots more focused on engaging newcomers and answering questions, more like serendipitous mentoring sessions with the less involved, while another slot could be dedicated to more focused and long term efforts, with more committed people? Cheers, stef PS let's continue the conversation only on -infra. I'm replying including -dev only because I think the point "2. Decisions" needed to be clarified for all. _______________________________________________ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStackfirstname.lastname@example.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev