With Kurt Taylor. +1

Very nice idea to start with.

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From: Kurt Taylor [mailto:kurt.r.tay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 8:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional 
Meeting for third-party

In my opinion, further discussion is needed. The proposal on the table is to 
have 2 weekly meetings, one at the existing time of 1800UTC on Monday and, also 
in the same week, to have another meeting at 0800 UTC on Tuesday.

Here are some of the problems that I see with this approach:

1. Meeting content: Having 2 meetings per week is more than is needed at this 
stage of the working group. There just isn't enough meeting content to justify 
having two meetings every week.

2. Decisions: Any decision made at one meeting will potentially be undone at 
the next, or at least not fully explained. It will be difficult to keep 
consistent direction with the overall work group.

3. Meeting chair(s): Currently we do not have a commitment for a long-term 
chair of this new second weekly meeting. I will not be able to attend this new 
meeting at the proposed time.

4. Current meeting time: I am not aware of anyone that likes the current time 
of 1800 UTC on Monday. The current time is the main reason it is hard for EU 
and APAC CI Operators to attend.

My proposal was to have only 1 meeting per week at alternating times, just as 
other work groups have done to solve this problem. (See examples at: 
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings)  I volunteered to chair, then ask 
other CI Operators to chair as the meetings evolved. The meeting times could be 
any between 1300-0300 UTC. That way, one week we are good for US and Europe, 
the next week for APAC.

Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)


On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:10 PM, 
trinath.soman...@freescale.com<mailto:trinath.soman...@freescale.com> 
<trinath.soman...@freescale.com<mailto:trinath.soman...@freescale.com>> wrote:
+1.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info<mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 3:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [OpenStack-Infra] [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional 
Meeting for third-party

On 12/03/2014 03:15 AM, Omri Marcovitch wrote:
> Hello Anteaya,
>
> A meeting between 8:00 - 16:00 UTC time will be great (Israel).
>
>
> Thanks
> Omri
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Hesketh 
> [mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com<mailto:joshua.hesk...@rackspace.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 9:04 AM
> To: He, Yongli; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
> questions); 
> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org>
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack-Infra] [third-party]Time for
> Additional Meeting for third-party
>
> Hey,
>
> 0700 -> 1000 UTC would work for me most weeks fwiw.
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
>
> Rackspace Australia
>
> On 12/3/14 11:17 AM, He, Yongli wrote:
>> anteaya,
>>
>> UTC 7:00 AM to UTC9:00, or UTC11:30 to UTC13:00 is ideal time for china.
>>
>> if there is no time slot there, just pick up any time between UTC
>> 7:00 AM to UCT 13:00. ( UTC9:00 to UTC 11:30 is on road to home and
>> dinner.)
>>
>> Yongi He
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Anita Kuno [mailto:ante...@anteaya.info<mailto:ante...@anteaya.info>]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 4:07 AM
>> To: openstack Development Mailing List;
>> openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org<mailto:openstack-in...@lists.openstack.org>
>> Subject: [openstack-dev] [third-party]Time for Additional Meeting for
>> third-party
>>
>> One of the actions from the Kilo Third-Party CI summit session was to start 
>> up an additional meeting for CI operators to participate from non-North 
>> American time zones.
>>
>> Please reply to this email with times/days that would work for you. The 
>> current third party meeting is on Mondays at 1800 utc which works well since 
>> Infra meetings are on Tuesdays. If we could find a time that works for 
>> Europe and APAC that is also on Monday that would be ideal.
>>
>> Josh Hesketh has said he will try to be available for these meetings, he is 
>> in Australia.
>>
>> Let's get a sense of what days and timeframes work for those interested and 
>> then we can narrow it down and pick a channel.
>>
>> Thanks everyone,
>> Anita.
>>

Okay first of all thanks to everyone who replied.

Again, to clarify, the purpose of this thread has been to find a suitable 
additional third-party meeting time geared towards folks in EU and APAC. We 
live on a sphere, there is no time that will suit everyone.

It looks like we are converging on 0800 UTC as a time and I am going to suggest 
Tuesdays. We have very little competition for space at that date
+ time combination so we can use #openstack-meeting (I have already
booked the space on the wikipage).

So barring further discussion, see you then!

Thanks everyone,
Anita.

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