Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which plugins?

2014-08-12 Thread Irena Berezovsky
Hi Chuck,
I'll comment regarding Mellanox Plug-in and Ml2 Mech driver  in the review.
BR,
Irena 

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From: Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron) [mailto:chuck.carl...@hp.com] 
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which 
plugins?

Yamamoto has reviewed the changes for this, and has raised the following issue 
(among others).


  *   iirc mellanox uses mac address as port identifier. what happens on 
address change?

Can someone who knows mellanox please comment, either here or in the review?

Thanks,
Chuck


On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:22 PM, "Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron)" 
mailto:chuck.carl...@hp.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the quick responses.

Here's the WIP review:

https://review.openstack.org/112129.

The base plugin doesn't contribute to the notification decision right now, so 
I've modified the actual plugin code.

Chuck


On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Amir Sadoughi 
mailto:amir.sadou...@rackspace.com><mailto:amir.sadou...@rackspace.com>>
wrote:

I agree with Kevin here. Just a note, don't bother with openvswitch and 
linuxbridge plugins as they are marked for deletion this cycle, imminently 
(already deprecated)[0].

Amir

[0] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-08-04-21.02.html
 Announcements 2e.

From: Kevin Benton 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:40 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which 
plugins?

How are you implementing the change? It would be good to get to see some code 
in a review to get an idea of what needs to be updated.

If it's just a change in the DB base plugin, just let those changes propagate 
to the plugins that haven't overridden the inherited behavior.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Charles Carlino 
mailto:chuckjcarl...@gmail.com><mailto:chuckjcarl...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:
Hi all,

I need some help regarding a bug [1] I'm working on.

The bug is basically a request to make the mac address of a port updatable.  
The use case is a baremetal (Ironic) node that has a bad NIC which must be 
replaced, resulting in a new mac address.  The bad NIC has an associated 
neutron port which of course holds the NIC's IP address.  The reason to make 
mac_address updatable (as opposed to having the user create a new port and 
delete the old one) is that during the recovery process the IP address must be 
retained and assigned to the new NIC/port, which is not guaranteed in the above 
work-around.

I'm coding the changes to do this in the ml2, openvswitch, and linuxbridge 
plugins but I'm not sure how to handle the the other plugins since I don't know 
if the associated backends are prepared to handle such updates.  My first 
thought is to disallow the update in the other plugins, but I would really 
appreciate your advice.

Kind regards,
Chuck Carlino

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1341268

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which plugins?

2014-08-06 Thread Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron)
Yamamoto has reviewed the changes for this, and has raised the following issue 
(among others).


  *   iirc mellanox uses mac address as port identifier. what happens on 
address change?

Can someone who knows mellanox please comment, either here or in the review?

Thanks,
Chuck


On Aug 5, 2014, at 1:22 PM, "Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron)" 
mailto:chuck.carl...@hp.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the quick responses.

Here's the WIP review:

https://review.openstack.org/112129.

The base plugin doesn't contribute to the notification decision right now, so 
I've modified the actual plugin code.

Chuck


On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Amir Sadoughi 
mailto:amir.sadou...@rackspace.com><mailto:amir.sadou...@rackspace.com>>
wrote:

I agree with Kevin here. Just a note, don't bother with openvswitch and 
linuxbridge plugins as they are marked for deletion this cycle, imminently 
(already deprecated)[0].

Amir

[0] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-08-04-21.02.html
 Announcements 2e.

From: Kevin Benton 
[blak...@gmail.com<mailto:blak...@gmail.com><mailto:blak...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:40 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which 
plugins?

How are you implementing the change? It would be good to get to see some code 
in a review to get an idea of what needs to be updated.

If it's just a change in the DB base plugin, just let those changes propagate 
to the plugins that haven't overridden the inherited behavior.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Charles Carlino 
mailto:chuckjcarl...@gmail.com><mailto:chuckjcarl...@gmail.com>>
 wrote:
Hi all,

I need some help regarding a bug [1] I'm working on.

The bug is basically a request to make the mac address of a port updatable.  
The use case is a baremetal (Ironic) node that has a bad NIC which must be 
replaced, resulting in a new mac address.  The bad NIC has an associated 
neutron port which of course holds the NIC's IP address.  The reason to make 
mac_address updatable (as opposed to having the user create a new port and 
delete the old one) is that during the recovery process the IP address must be 
retained and assigned to the new NIC/port, which is not guaranteed in the above 
work-around.

I'm coding the changes to do this in the ml2, openvswitch, and linuxbridge 
plugins but I'm not sure how to handle the the other plugins since I don't know 
if the associated backends are prepared to handle such updates.  My first 
thought is to disallow the update in the other plugins, but I would really 
appreciate your advice.

Kind regards,
Chuck Carlino

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1341268

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which plugins?

2014-08-05 Thread Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron)
Thanks for the quick responses.

Here's the WIP review:

https://review.openstack.org/112129.

The base plugin doesn't contribute to the notification decision right now, so 
I've modified the actual plugin code.

Chuck


On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:51 PM, Amir Sadoughi 
mailto:amir.sadou...@rackspace.com>>
 wrote:

I agree with Kevin here. Just a note, don't bother with openvswitch and 
linuxbridge plugins as they are marked for deletion this cycle, imminently 
(already deprecated)[0].

Amir

[0] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-08-04-21.02.html
 Announcements 2e.

From: Kevin Benton [blak...@gmail.com<mailto:blak...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:40 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which 
plugins?

How are you implementing the change? It would be good to get to see some code 
in a review to get an idea of what needs to be updated.

If it's just a change in the DB base plugin, just let those changes propagate 
to the plugins that haven't overridden the inherited behavior.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Charles Carlino 
mailto:chuckjcarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I need some help regarding a bug [1] I'm working on.

The bug is basically a request to make the mac address of a port updatable.  
The use case is a baremetal (Ironic) node that has a bad NIC which must be 
replaced, resulting in a new mac address.  The bad NIC has an associated 
neutron port which of course holds the NIC's IP address.  The reason to make 
mac_address updatable (as opposed to having the user create a new port and 
delete the old one) is that during the recovery process the IP address must be 
retained and assigned to the new NIC/port, which is not guaranteed in the above 
work-around.

I'm coding the changes to do this in the ml2, openvswitch, and linuxbridge 
plugins but I'm not sure how to handle the the other plugins since I don't know 
if the associated backends are prepared to handle such updates.  My first 
thought is to disallow the update in the other plugins, but I would really 
appreciate your advice.

Kind regards,
Chuck Carlino

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1341268

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which plugins?

2014-08-05 Thread Amir Sadoughi
I agree with Kevin here. Just a note, don't bother with openvswitch and 
linuxbridge plugins as they are marked for deletion this cycle, imminently 
(already deprecated)[0].

Amir

[0] 
http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-08-04-21.02.html
 Announcements 2e.

From: Kevin Benton [blak...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 2:40 PM
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which 
plugins?

How are you implementing the change? It would be good to get to see some code 
in a review to get an idea of what needs to be updated.

If it's just a change in the DB base plugin, just let those changes propagate 
to the plugins that haven't overridden the inherited behavior.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Charles Carlino 
mailto:chuckjcarl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I need some help regarding a bug [1] I'm working on.

The bug is basically a request to make the mac address of a port updatable.  
The use case is a baremetal (Ironic) node that has a bad NIC which must be 
replaced, resulting in a new mac address.  The bad NIC has an associated 
neutron port which of course holds the NIC's IP address.  The reason to make 
mac_address updatable (as opposed to having the user create a new port and 
delete the old one) is that during the recovery process the IP address must be 
retained and assigned to the new NIC/port, which is not guaranteed in the above 
work-around.

I'm coding the changes to do this in the ml2, openvswitch, and linuxbridge 
plugins but I'm not sure how to handle the the other plugins since I don't know 
if the associated backends are prepared to handle such updates.  My first 
thought is to disallow the update in the other plugins, but I would really 
appreciate your advice.

Kind regards,
Chuck Carlino

[1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1341268

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Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] make mac address updatable: which plugins?

2014-08-05 Thread Kevin Benton
How are you implementing the change? It would be good to get to see some
code in a review to get an idea of what needs to be updated.

If it's just a change in the DB base plugin, just let those changes
propagate to the plugins that haven't overridden the inherited behavior.


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Charles Carlino 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I need some help regarding a bug [1] I'm working on.
>
> The bug is basically a request to make the mac address of a port
> updatable.  The use case is a baremetal (Ironic) node that has a bad NIC
> which must be replaced, resulting in a new mac address.  The bad NIC has an
> associated neutron port which of course holds the NIC's IP address.  The
> reason to make mac_address updatable (as opposed to having the user create
> a new port and delete the old one) is that during the recovery process the
> IP address must be retained and assigned to the new NIC/port, which is not
> guaranteed in the above work-around.
>
> I'm coding the changes to do this in the ml2, openvswitch, and linuxbridge
> plugins but I'm not sure how to handle the the other plugins since I don't
> know if the associated backends are prepared to handle such updates.  My
> first thought is to disallow the update in the other plugins, but I would
> really appreciate your advice.
>
> Kind regards,
> Chuck Carlino
>
> [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1341268
>
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2014-08-05 Thread Charles Carlino
Hi all,

I need some help regarding a bug [1] I'm working on.

The bug is basically a request to make the mac address of a port updatable.  
The use case is a baremetal (Ironic) node that has a bad NIC which must be 
replaced, resulting in a new mac address.  The bad NIC has an associated 
neutron port which of course holds the NIC's IP address.  The reason to make 
mac_address updatable (as opposed to having the user create a new port and 
delete the old one) is that during the recovery process the IP address must be 
retained and assigned to the new NIC/port, which is not guaranteed in the above 
work-around.

I'm coding the changes to do this in the ml2, openvswitch, and linuxbridge 
plugins but I'm not sure how to handle the the other plugins since I don't know 
if the associated backends are prepared to handle such updates.  My first 
thought is to disallow the update in the other plugins, but I would really 
appreciate your advice.

Kind regards,
Chuck Carlino

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