Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all] meetings outside IRC

2018-10-14 Thread Ghanshyam Mann



  On Sun, 14 Oct 2018 06:29:46 +0900 Mohammed Naser  
wrote  
 > Hi everyone:
 > 
 > I was going over our governance documents, more specifically this section:
 > 
 > "All project meetings are held in public IRC channels and recorded."
 > 
 > Does this mean that all official projects are *required* to hold their
 > project meetings over IRC?  Is this a hard requirement or is this
 > something that we're a bit more 'lax about?  Do members of the
 > community feel like it would be easier to hold their meetings if we
 > allowed other avenues (assuming this isn't allowed?)
 > 
 > Looking forward to hearing everyone's comments.

Personally I feel IRC is good options which is more comfortable for non-english 
speakers then, video/audio call. But that is for official meeting not other 
ad-hoc/technical discussion which is or can be done on any channel. 

But if any team or all attendees of the meeting are more comfortable in other 
communication channel, we should have flexibility for them. Like PTL discussed 
in his team and everyone decided to use hangout for meeting then, we should not 
restrict them. As long as meeting logs(chat/audio/video) are linked in 
eavesdrop we should be good.

-gmann

 > 
 > Thanks
 > Mohammed
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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all] meetings outside IRC

2018-10-13 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2018-10-13 23:29:46 +0200 (+0200), Mohammed Naser wrote:
> I was going over our governance documents, more specifically this
> section:
> 
> "All project meetings are held in public IRC channels and
> recorded."
> 
> Does this mean that all official projects are *required* to hold
> their project meetings over IRC?

If an official project team holds a regular official team meeting,
then it needs to be in a public IRC channel with published logs
(either the channel log or a log specific to the meeting).

> Is this a hard requirement or is this something that we're a bit
> more 'lax about?
[...]

We've not generally required this of auxiliary meetings for official
teams. Sub-team meetings and unofficial/ad-hoc team discussions over
conference call or video chat media have been tolerated in the past.
But for an official team meeting (if the team regularly holds one)
we've stuck to the quoted expectation as a requirement as far as I'm
aware.
-- 
Jeremy Stanley


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Re: [openstack-dev] [tc][all] meetings outside IRC

2018-10-13 Thread Emilien Macchi
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 5:30 PM Mohammed Naser  wrote:

> Hi everyone:
>
> I was going over our governance documents, more specifically this section:
>
> "All project meetings are held in public IRC channels and recorded."
>
> Does this mean that all official projects are *required* to hold their
> project meetings over IRC?  Is this a hard requirement or is this
> something that we're a bit more 'lax about?  Do members of the
> community feel like it would be easier to hold their meetings if we
> allowed other avenues (assuming this isn't allowed?)
>
> Looking forward to hearing everyone's comments.
>

In my opinion, IRC is the best place to run meetings in OpenStack
community, however we need to acknowledge that not everyone agrees and some
functional teams or sub-teams prefer some other tools, including
video-conference.

What remains critical to me is:
- wherever you run the meeting, make it publicly reachable, accessible,
visible.
- if you run the meeting outside of IRC, take and share notes on public
channels.

In general: decisions shouldn't not be taken during meetings, but rather on
Gerrit or Mailing-lists. Otherwise you're fragmenting the community between
those who can attend the meeting and those who can't.

My 2 cents,
-- 
Emilien Macchi
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[openstack-dev] [tc][all] meetings outside IRC

2018-10-13 Thread Mohammed Naser
Hi everyone:

I was going over our governance documents, more specifically this section:

"All project meetings are held in public IRC channels and recorded."

Does this mean that all official projects are *required* to hold their
project meetings over IRC?  Is this a hard requirement or is this
something that we're a bit more 'lax about?  Do members of the
community feel like it would be easier to hold their meetings if we
allowed other avenues (assuming this isn't allowed?)

Looking forward to hearing everyone's comments.

Thanks
Mohammed

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