Re: [openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-07 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
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On 06/10/14 17:56, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between
 projects. There are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so
 we created the liaison program at the beginning of the Juno cycle,
 asking each team that uses Oslo libraries to provide one volunteer
 liaison. Our liaisons facilitate communication and work with us to
 make the application code changes needed as code moves out of the
 incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in place, we
 were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having
 them adopted across OpenStack.
 
 With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for
 volunteers to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested
 in acting as a liaison for your project, please sign up on the wiki
 page [1]. It would be very helpful to have a full roster before the
 summit, so we can make sure liaisons are invited to participate in
 any relevant discussions there.
 
 Thanks, Doug
 
 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons

Quoting the page: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the
project. Is it a reasonable limitation? I suspect that being an Oslo
liaison usually does not really require the core status. Any team
member with visible level of participation in the project and decent
communication skills should be able to do the job.

Why I ask: I would probably consider signing up for the liaison
program from Neutron side if 1) the program rules would not be that
tight; and 2) current Neutron Oslo liaison (Salvatore?) wouldn't be
against it.

Cheers,
/Ihar
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Re: [openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-07 Thread Salvatore Orlando
I am totally not against it.
I agree with you that probably the restriction on core-only might be
lifted, but that decision lies with the oslo team.

Salvatore

On 7 October 2014 13:55, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:

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 On 06/10/14 17:56, Doug Hellmann wrote:
  The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between
  projects. There are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so
  we created the liaison program at the beginning of the Juno cycle,
  asking each team that uses Oslo libraries to provide one volunteer
  liaison. Our liaisons facilitate communication and work with us to
  make the application code changes needed as code moves out of the
  incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in place, we
  were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having
  them adopted across OpenStack.
 
  With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for
  volunteers to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested
  in acting as a liaison for your project, please sign up on the wiki
  page [1]. It would be very helpful to have a full roster before the
  summit, so we can make sure liaisons are invited to participate in
  any relevant discussions there.
 
  Thanks, Doug
 
  [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons

 Quoting the page: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the
 project. Is it a reasonable limitation? I suspect that being an Oslo
 liaison usually does not really require the core status. Any team
 member with visible level of participation in the project and decent
 communication skills should be able to do the job.

 Why I ask: I would probably consider signing up for the liaison
 program from Neutron side if 1) the program rules would not be that
 tight; and 2) current Neutron Oslo liaison (Salvatore?) wouldn't be
 against it.

 Cheers,
 /Ihar
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Re: [openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Ihar,

Welcome! and thanks for considering signing up to be liaison :) As
oslo core, i'd support the relaxation. I think the thinking behind the
wording was it would help if folks were core

-- dims

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:
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 On 06/10/14 17:56, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between
 projects. There are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so
 we created the liaison program at the beginning of the Juno cycle,
 asking each team that uses Oslo libraries to provide one volunteer
 liaison. Our liaisons facilitate communication and work with us to
 make the application code changes needed as code moves out of the
 incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in place, we
 were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having
 them adopted across OpenStack.

 With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for
 volunteers to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested
 in acting as a liaison for your project, please sign up on the wiki
 page [1]. It would be very helpful to have a full roster before the
 summit, so we can make sure liaisons are invited to participate in
 any relevant discussions there.

 Thanks, Doug

 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons

 Quoting the page: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the
 project. Is it a reasonable limitation? I suspect that being an Oslo
 liaison usually does not really require the core status. Any team
 member with visible level of participation in the project and decent
 communication skills should be able to do the job.

 Why I ask: I would probably consider signing up for the liaison
 program from Neutron side if 1) the program rules would not be that
 tight; and 2) current Neutron Oslo liaison (Salvatore?) wouldn't be
 against it.

 Cheers,
 /Ihar
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Re: [openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-07 Thread Doug Hellmann

On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:

 Signed PGP part
 On 06/10/14 17:56, Doug Hellmann wrote:
  The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between
  projects. There are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so
  we created the liaison program at the beginning of the Juno cycle,
  asking each team that uses Oslo libraries to provide one volunteer
  liaison. Our liaisons facilitate communication and work with us to
  make the application code changes needed as code moves out of the
  incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in place, we
  were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having
  them adopted across OpenStack.
 
  With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for
  volunteers to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested
  in acting as a liaison for your project, please sign up on the wiki
  page [1]. It would be very helpful to have a full roster before the
  summit, so we can make sure liaisons are invited to participate in
  any relevant discussions there.
 
  Thanks, Doug
 
  [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons
 
 Quoting the page: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the
 project. Is it a reasonable limitation? I suspect that being an Oslo
 liaison usually does not really require the core status. Any team
 member with visible level of participation in the project and decent
 communication skills should be able to do the job.
 
 Why I ask: I would probably consider signing up for the liaison
 program from Neutron side if 1) the program rules would not be that
 tight; and 2) current Neutron Oslo liaison (Salvatore?) wouldn't be
 against it.

We need someone who can push patches into the project and understands the code 
well enough to be able to do that without delay. Usually that means a core 
reviewer. If the Neutron team commits to working closely with you on patches to 
avoid delays, that would achieve the same ends.

Doug


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Re: [openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-07 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 10/07/2014 02:50 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 
 On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 Signed PGP part
 On 06/10/14 17:56, Doug Hellmann wrote:
 The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between
 projects. There are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so
 we created the liaison program at the beginning of the Juno cycle,
 asking each team that uses Oslo libraries to provide one volunteer
 liaison. Our liaisons facilitate communication and work with us to
 make the application code changes needed as code moves out of the
 incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in place, we
 were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having
 them adopted across OpenStack.

 With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for
 volunteers to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested
 in acting as a liaison for your project, please sign up on the wiki
 page [1]. It would be very helpful to have a full roster before the
 summit, so we can make sure liaisons are invited to participate in
 any relevant discussions there.

 Thanks, Doug

 [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons

 Quoting the page: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the
 project. Is it a reasonable limitation? I suspect that being an Oslo
 liaison usually does not really require the core status. Any team
 member with visible level of participation in the project and decent
 communication skills should be able to do the job.

 Why I ask: I would probably consider signing up for the liaison
 program from Neutron side if 1) the program rules would not be that
 tight; and 2) current Neutron Oslo liaison (Salvatore?) wouldn't be
 against it.
 
 We need someone who can push patches into the project and understands the 
 code well enough to be able to do that without delay. Usually that means a 
 core reviewer. If the Neutron team commits to working closely with you on 
 patches to avoid delays, that would achieve the same ends.
 

Agreed with Doug. It's not really a strong requirement. The request of
the liaison to be a core reviewer is more a suggestion for the projects
themselves in order to make the interaction between both teams easier.

That said, we could probably re-word that somehow to reflect the above.

Flavio

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Re: [openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-07 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Doug Hellmann d...@doughellmann.com wrote:

 On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:

 Signed PGP part
 On 06/10/14 17:56, Doug Hellmann wrote:
  The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between
  projects. There are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so
  we created the liaison program at the beginning of the Juno cycle,
  asking each team that uses Oslo libraries to provide one volunteer
  liaison. Our liaisons facilitate communication and work with us to
  make the application code changes needed as code moves out of the
  incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in place, we
  were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having
  them adopted across OpenStack.
 
  With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for
  volunteers to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested
  in acting as a liaison for your project, please sign up on the wiki
  page [1]. It would be very helpful to have a full roster before the
  summit, so we can make sure liaisons are invited to participate in
  any relevant discussions there.
 
  Thanks, Doug
 
  [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons

 Quoting the page: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the
 project. Is it a reasonable limitation? I suspect that being an Oslo
 liaison usually does not really require the core status. Any team
 member with visible level of participation in the project and decent
 communication skills should be able to do the job.

 Why I ask: I would probably consider signing up for the liaison
 program from Neutron side if 1) the program rules would not be that
 tight; and 2) current Neutron Oslo liaison (Salvatore?) wouldn't be
 against it.

 We need someone who can push patches into the project and understands the 
 code well enough to be able to do that without delay. Usually that means a 
 core reviewer. If the Neutron team commits to working closely with you on 
 patches to avoid delays, that would achieve the same ends.

I am 100% onboard with Ihar being the Neutron team's Osli liaison.
Thanks for signing up Ihar, and thanks for working with us here Doug!

Kyle

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Re: [openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-07 Thread Ghe Rivero
Last cycle the Ironic liaison wasn't a core reviewer and things worked. 
So I agree with the idea of relaxing the recommendation.


Ghe Rivero (Ironic liaison)

On 07/10/14 14:50, Doug Hellmann wrote:


On Oct 7, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka ihrac...@redhat.com wrote:


Signed PGP part
On 06/10/14 17:56, Doug Hellmann wrote:

The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between
projects. There are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so
we created the liaison program at the beginning of the Juno cycle,
asking each team that uses Oslo libraries to provide one volunteer
liaison. Our liaisons facilitate communication and work with us to
make the application code changes needed as code moves out of the
incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in place, we
were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having
them adopted across OpenStack.

With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for
volunteers to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested
in acting as a liaison for your project, please sign up on the wiki
page [1]. It would be very helpful to have a full roster before the
summit, so we can make sure liaisons are invited to participate in
any relevant discussions there.

Thanks, Doug

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons


Quoting the page: The liaison should be a core reviewer for the
project. Is it a reasonable limitation? I suspect that being an Oslo
liaison usually does not really require the core status. Any team
member with visible level of participation in the project and decent
communication skills should be able to do the job.

Why I ask: I would probably consider signing up for the liaison
program from Neutron side if 1) the program rules would not be that
tight; and 2) current Neutron Oslo liaison (Salvatore?) wouldn't be
against it.


We need someone who can push patches into the project and understands the code 
well enough to be able to do that without delay. Usually that means a core 
reviewer. If the Neutron team commits to working closely with you on patches to 
avoid delays, that would achieve the same ends.

Doug


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[openstack-dev] sign up for oslo liaisons for kilo cycle

2014-10-06 Thread Doug Hellmann
The Oslo team is responsible for managing code shared between projects. There 
are a LOT more projects than Oslo team members, so we created the liaison 
program at the beginning of the Juno cycle, asking each team that uses Oslo 
libraries to provide one volunteer liaison. Our liaisons facilitate 
communication and work with us to make the application code changes needed as 
code moves out of the incubator and into libraries. With this extra help in 
place, we were able to successfully graduate 7 new libraries and begin having 
them adopted across OpenStack.

With the change-over to the new release cycle, it’s time to ask for volunteers 
to sign up to be liaisons again. If you are interested in acting as a liaison 
for your project, please sign up on the wiki page [1]. It would be very helpful 
to have a full roster before the summit, so we can make sure liaisons are 
invited to participate in any relevant discussions there.

Thanks,
Doug

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Oslo/ProjectLiaisons
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