Re: Which SQL is executing

2001-06-04 Thread Sam Roberts



SELECT T.SQL_TEXT FROM V$SQLTEXT T,V$SESSION S 
WHERE S.SQL_ADDRESS=T.ADDRESS ORDER BY T.PIECE;

Sam

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Chuan 
  Zhang 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 9:30 AM
  Subject: Which SQL is executing
  
  Hi All,
  
  
  From v$open_cursor, I know every SQL opened 
  and parsed in one session. Is there any way to know which SQL is running. Or 
  put another way, canall the SQLs in one session be sorted in timing 
  order dynamically?
  
  Any clue would be much appreciated.
  
  Chuan


Redo Log contention

2001-06-04 Thread Viraj Luthra

Hello all,

How does one measure if there is a contention for redo logs?

1. Is it that I see that the Log file parallel write has waited for more than 0 
(zero)?

or

2. You divide:-

 redo log space requests/no. of redo log entries  0.0002

Please advise.

rgds,

raja


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RE: Friday Chocolate thought.

2001-06-04 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Well Mark, that was amazing !!! If you haven't already tried Marks recipe
(posted in March) I urge you to try it. Absolutely gorgeous.

Lee


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See you all when I get back around June 25th!!

Dick Goulet

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Guys,
 
I am attempting Mark Leiths chocolate cake this weekend. (Rachels chocolate
mousse cake in a couple of weeks). 
 
I will let you all in on the results on Monday (if I can get out of my sofa
!!)
 
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Re: urgent regarding server manager..

2001-06-04 Thread A. Bardeen

Saurabh,

I believe the only command line option for server
manager is  @script

So you'll need to create a .sql script that contains
the connect statement.

Keep in mind that server manager is going away in 9i
so  you should start using sqlplus for 8i+.

HTH,

-- Anita
 

--- Saurabh Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 i want help regarding automation of connecting to
 server manager through script file.
 
 i want when i run script, it automatically launch
 svrmgr program and simultaneously pass the connect
 string so that it gives me svrmgr connected.
 while passing the connect string along with svrmgr80
 command at c prompt results in msg  too many
 parameters..
 can anyone help getting me started.
 
 thanks in advance.
 
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Re: SP2-0575: Use of Oracle SQL feature not in SQL92 Entry Level.

2001-06-04 Thread murosa


 Thank you very much, Ruth, but it doesn't our problem. We have same
tnsnames in our server and client machines.

 Best regards.

 Miguel.




01/06/2001 20.51
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 Por favor, responda a [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Remitente [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Do you have a tnsnames file on the server you are using to access sqlplus?
If not, put a copy of your tnsnames file and set you ORACLE_SID before
trying sqlplus.

Just a thot...
Ruth
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  Hi folks, again. I was subscribed two years ago and I'm stay here again.

 I'm facing to a curious problem with Oracle 8.1.6.3 over Solaris 2.6.
When I connect to sqlplus via tnsnames.ora
I'm getting following errors:

SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Fri Jun 1 10:08:58 2001

(c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.

Enter password:
ERROR:
ORA-01012: not logged on


SP2-0575: Use of Oracle SQL feature not in SQL92 Entry Level.

Connected to:
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.3.0 - Production
With the Partitioning and Parallel Server options
JServer Release 8.1.6.3.0 - Production

SQL select * from dual;
select * from dual
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01012: not logged on


SQL

 But when I connect from same machine where reside Oracle, I have no
problems.

 ¿Anybody knows something about that?.

 Thank you very mucha in advance.

 Regards.

 Miguel Urosa.

   
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RE: Friday Chocolate thought.

2001-06-04 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Sorry did I mention that it was even nicer, slightly warm with double cream
poured over the top


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Thanks, Lee.  It was bad enough that you had to let us
know you were going to make chocolate cake, but then
you have to go and flaunt how good it was!

I bet you were the type to bring candy to school when
you didn't have enough for the whole class ;)

--  Anita 

--- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 already tried Marks recipe
 (posted in March) I urge you to try it. Absolutely
 gorgeous.
 
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 I will let you all in on the results on Monday (if I
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RE: Friday Chocolate thought.

2001-06-04 Thread A. Bardeen

Thanks, Lee.  It was bad enough that you had to let us
know you were going to make chocolate cake, but then
you have to go and flaunt how good it was!

I bet you were the type to bring candy to school when
you didn't have enough for the whole class ;)

--  Anita 

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 Lee
 
 
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Re: DBA_OBJECTS

2001-06-04 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (Unal Bilisim)



Bunyamin,
Why don't you use v$locked_object ?
"Bunyamin K. Karadeniz" wrote:

I
want to select locked_objects in a view.I
runCREATE OR REPLACE VIEW
V_BUN_LOCKED_OBJECTS ASSELECT
sn.username, m.sid, m.type,
 DECODE(m.lmode,
0, 'None'

, 1, 'Null'

, 2, 'Row Share'

, 3, 'Row Excl.'

, 4, 'Share'

, 5, 'S/Row Excl.'

, 6, 'Exclusive'

, lmode, ltrim(to_char(lmode,'990'))) lmode,
 DECODE(m.request,
0, 'None'

, 1, 'Null'

, 2, 'Row Share'

, 3, 'Row Excl.'

, 4, 'Share'

, 5, 'S/Row Excl.'

, 6, 'Exclusive'

, request, ltrim(to_char(request,'990'))) request,

obj1.object_name objname, obj2.object_name objname
FROM v$session sn, V$lock m,
dba_objects obj1, dba_objects obj2
WHERE sn.sid = m.sid
AND m.id1 = obj1.object_id (+)
AND m.id2 = obj2.object_id (+)
 AND lmode != 4 ;and
gives error or ora-942. Can not find dba_objects .But
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privilege.The inside of
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RE: COCO Proposal Review

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Leith

So tell me Lee, how was the choccy cake? :)

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Damn, thought it was something to do with Chocolate 



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All,

I have just thrown together a proposal I plan on sending out to a bunch of
Oracle related groups (user groups etc..) to attempt to get some help in
putting together training for OCP.  Primarily I'm just using OCP as a basis
for creating free Oracle training.  Some of you may already be aware of my
fledgling web site (work of love).  Anyway I would like to get your comments
on the proposal as I suppose I have probably missed responding to some
fairly obvious questions in my zeal to get it out.  Please contact me
offline because I don't want to cludge up the list with this, just want to
get your opinions both negative and positive and address what you think
might be questions that would arise.

Thanks to all who help me out, there are some very cool and very competant
pro's on this list.  Save the flames regarding paper OCP's as the training
is not going to be an exam cram but real training and no need to throw out
the baby with the bath water.

http://www.freetechnicaltraining.com/docs/cocp_proposal.doc

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RE: COCO Proposal Review

2001-06-04 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Already put the verdict out mate. Tremendous  You were right though. I
couldn't wait for it to cool down even, never mind 24 hours.

My sister already wants me to make another dozen !!

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So tell me Lee, how was the choccy cake? :)

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Damn, thought it was something to do with Chocolate 



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All,

I have just thrown together a proposal I plan on sending out to a bunch of
Oracle related groups (user groups etc..) to attempt to get some help in
putting together training for OCP.  Primarily I'm just using OCP as a basis
for creating free Oracle training.  Some of you may already be aware of my
fledgling web site (work of love).  Anyway I would like to get your comments
on the proposal as I suppose I have probably missed responding to some
fairly obvious questions in my zeal to get it out.  Please contact me
offline because I don't want to cludge up the list with this, just want to
get your opinions both negative and positive and address what you think
might be questions that would arise.

Thanks to all who help me out, there are some very cool and very competant
pro's on this list.  Save the flames regarding paper OCP's as the training
is not going to be an exam cram but real training and no need to throw out
the baby with the bath water.

http://www.freetechnicaltraining.com/docs/cocp_proposal.doc

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Re: DBA_OBJECTS

2001-06-04 Thread A. Bardeen


Because your privileges to select against DBA_OBJECTS
was granted through a role and role privileges are
disabled in views.  You'll need to have select
privileges explicitly granted on the underlying
objects.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Bunyamin K. Karadeniz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to select locked_objects in a view.
 I run 
 CREATE OR REPLACE VIEW V_BUN_LOCKED_OBJECTS AS 
  SELECT sn.username, m.sid, m.type,
 DECODE(m.lmode, 0, 'None'
   , 1, 'Null'
   , 2, 'Row Share'
   , 3, 'Row Excl.'
   , 4, 'Share'
   , 5, 'S/Row Excl.'
   , 6, 'Exclusive'
   , lmode,
 ltrim(to_char(lmode,'990'))) lmode,
 DECODE(m.request, 0, 'None'
   , 1, 'Null'
   , 2, 'Row Share'
   , 3, 'Row Excl.'
   , 4, 'Share'
   , 5, 'S/Row Excl.'
   , 6, 'Exclusive'
   , request,
 ltrim(to_char(request,'990'))) request,
   obj1.object_name objname, obj2.object_name
 objname
  FROM v$session sn, V$lock m, dba_objects obj1,
 dba_objects obj2
  WHERE sn.sid = m.sid
  AND m.id1 = obj1.object_id (+)
  AND m.id2 = obj2.object_id (+)
AND lmode != 4 ;
 
 
 and  gives error or ora-942. Can not find
 dba_objects .
 But with the same user I can query dba_objects table
 since my user has dba privilege.
 The inside of view runs perfectly. 
 Why can it be??
 


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RE: Auto Extend

2001-06-04 Thread MHately



Hi John,

I still haven't learned not to make sweeping statements on mailing lists = )
I expected someone to raise SMON or checkpoint overheads so I added
necessarily very deliberately.

Agreed, I'd tend to keep the number of files down to a reasonable number but
I've run a database with 3,500 datafiles and it didn't choke on log switches at
all. As you say, appropriately sized redo logs can mitigate the effects to some
extent.

Regards,
Mike Hately,
Oracle DBA





John Kanagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Neither large files nor small files are evil. As with all
things, fit the
solution to the problem.
Small files can leave you with lots of separate datafiles which isn't
necessarily a drag on performance but can be an administrative
chore and can
cause more wasted space due to that pesky 'end-of-datafile'
free extent.

Mike, I will have to disagree with you about small files not necessarily
being a drag on performance. Given a specific size of a database, it would
be better to go in for larger files (avoiding the 2Gb pitfall if possible)
since each datafile adds its own component to the flurry of I/O activity
that takes place during log switch, i.e. when all datafile headers need to
be updated.

In simpler terms, (Large number of) Small datafiles + small redo logs + high
DML activity = disaster during (the frequent) log switches...

People who want to
set up databases larger than a terabyte will inevitably have a
budget to invest
in new kit and buy-in to up to date OS and software levels.
Not everyone has
that luxury and a lot of legacy kit doesn't like 2GB+ files.

That's only my opinion but really, why play around with any
area that is
demonstrably strewn with bugs unless you need to?

Fully agreed!

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Re: What causes a last_analyzed date of 00-000-00?

2001-06-04 Thread A. Bardeen

Cherie,

The only bug I'm aware of on this is a bug I
encountered on 8.1.6 (bug 1161906), but it was fixed
in 8.1.7.0.0, so you shouldn't be encountering it on
8.1.7.1 and AFAIK it did not happen in 7.3.x.

Bug 1161906 resulted in 00-000-00 dates in
last_analyzed when stats were computed on indexes when
stats had not been computed or estimated on the
tables.  The obvious workaround was to calculate table
stats before index stats.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I just migrated a database from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7.1 on
 Sun Solaris 2.6.
 I do not believe that there were any statistics on
 this database before
 it was migrated.
 
 During the process of the migration, I followed the
 instruction and
 switched optimizer_mode from rule to choose.
 
 After it was upgraded, there were some pockets of
 extremely poor
 performance.  On a hunch, I looked at the
 last_analyzed date of
 all my non-system tables.   I was surprised to see
 that about a
 third of the tables seemed to have junk statistics
 in existence
 with a last_analyzed date of 00-000-00.
 
 What might have caused these statistics to be out
 there?  I doubt
 that we had pre-existing statistics because I've had
 them prior
 to upgrades and afterwards they've continued to have
 the same
 valid dates on them as they had before the upgrade.
 
 Anybody seen these junk statistics before?  I got
 rid of them
 and everything was fine but I'd like to prevent them
 from being
 created the next time that we do a 7.3.4 to 8.1.7.1
 upgrade.
 
 Any light anyone can shed is appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: urgent regarding server manager..

2001-06-04 Thread Joseph S. Testa

1.  upgrade to unix
2.  start using sqlplus instead of server manager, its going away

joe
 Saurabh Sharma wrote:
 
 hi all,
 
 i want help regarding automation of connecting to server manager
 through script file.
 
 i want when i run script, it automatically launch svrmgr program and
 simultaneously pass the connect string so that it gives me svrmgr
 connected.
 while passing the connect string along with svrmgr80 command at c
 prompt results in msg  too many parameters..
 can anyone help getting me started.
 
 thanks in advance.
 
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performance impact of optimizer_search_limit

2001-06-04 Thread Wilkes, Steve

Hi,

Oracle 8.0.5
AIX 4.3.3

I have improved the response time of one of my 8 table join queries by
increasing optimizer_search_limit from the default 5 to 8. At the value of 8
the plan changes and has made a 10 min query run in under 5 seconds. The
optimizer is set to CHOOSE with the statistics up to date and a sample size
of 20%. This is a third party application and I don't have access to the
source code to add hints. The value of optimizer_max_permutations has been
left at 8.

I know that this makes the optimizer now check 8!=40320 permutations instead
of 5!=120 permutations. I expect the parse time to increase but does anyone
have any experience as to the performance impact that this may have? Any
horror stories?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Help! ORA-00164 - autonomous trans problem in 8.1.7 NOT in 8.1.5

2001-06-04 Thread A. Bardeen

Doug,

This is a case where something slipped by in one
release, but was caught in a later release (shades of
Personal Oracle 8.0.3 which had complete EE
functionality by mistake).  8i doesn't support
autonomous transactions within distributed
transactions, but it wasn't officially prevented with
the ORA-164 error until 8.1.6+.  

Supposedly this functionality will be available in 9i,
but not necessarily the first release.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Doug C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Recently upgraded a development database from 8.1.5
 to 8.1.7 with the
 u080105 script.   There is now a certain type of
 code that errors out with a
 ORA-00164 autonomous transaction disallowed within
 distributed transaction.
 But the same code works on 8.1.5, as if a piece of
 functionality was actually
 cut out by the upgrade.
 
 There's a metalink hit on a forum where an Oracle
 rep makes the following
 statement: 
 
 Autonomous transaction are not supported in a
 distributed transaction. 
 Database links and autonomous transactions are two
 database technologies that do
 in fact not work together. 
 
 Also..
 
 Autonomous transaction are not supported in a
 distributed transaction. In 8i
 this will be the case. We are considering extending
 autonomous transactions to
 be able to be used even in a distributed
 transaction, in the future releases. 
 
 Ok.. so it sounds like it shouldn't work in *ANY*
 Oracle release.. but it works
 in 8.1.5 - 
 
 Here's a basic piece of the code that *works* in
 8.1.5 and does *not* in a LATER
 release ... 8.1.7
 
 The database link is clearly the distributed
 problem that is bothering it..
 
 CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE vwmtest AS
 
 v_date DATE;
 
 PROCEDURE write_log IS
   pragma AUTONOMOUS_TRANSACTION;
   BEGIN
   insert into ofs_log values

('VWMTEST','D',0,SYSDATE,SYSDATE,0,0,0,0,1,'F','B','3');
   - just a log
 table - we want to make an entry regardless of
 whether the parent transaction
 completes.
 commit;
 EXCEPTION
   WHEN OTHERS THEN dbms_output.put_line('OThers
 failure in write_log');
 END write_log;
 
 BEGIN   --  the source of the problem
   SELECT  super_date INTO v_date
   from AREMOTETABLE@ADATABASELINK
   where part = 54;
 
 WRITE_LOG; -- the autonomous transaction
 
 EXCEPTION
   WHEN OTHERS
   THEN dbms_output.put_line('Others error in
 vwmtest');
 
 
 END vwmtest;
 
 
 I've left some of the table definitions out but the
 concept is clear.  Despite
 the info I found on Oracle's knowledge baset.. This
 WORKS on a PRIOR release..
 8.1.5...
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
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 Doug
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RE: COCO Proposal Review

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Leith

Good! I just saw your other post..

I have to concur - the cake is out of this world!!

Glad I brought a smile to another chocolate lovers face..

Mark

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Already put the verdict out mate. Tremendous  You were right though. I
couldn't wait for it to cool down even, never mind 24 hours.

My sister already wants me to make another dozen !!

Lee


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So tell me Lee, how was the choccy cake? :)

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Damn, thought it was something to do with Chocolate 



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All,

I have just thrown together a proposal I plan on sending out to a bunch of
Oracle related groups (user groups etc..) to attempt to get some help in
putting together training for OCP.  Primarily I'm just using OCP as a basis
for creating free Oracle training.  Some of you may already be aware of my
fledgling web site (work of love).  Anyway I would like to get your comments
on the proposal as I suppose I have probably missed responding to some
fairly obvious questions in my zeal to get it out.  Please contact me
offline because I don't want to cludge up the list with this, just want to
get your opinions both negative and positive and address what you think
might be questions that would arise.

Thanks to all who help me out, there are some very cool and very competant
pro's on this list.  Save the flames regarding paper OCP's as the training
is not going to be an exam cram but real training and no need to throw out
the baby with the bath water.

http://www.freetechnicaltraining.com/docs/cocp_proposal.doc

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RE: Redo Log contention

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

 log parallel write and log file sync are good indications of redo log
problems.
 This isn't directly considered contention but more like the disk medium is
too slow to keep up.

 redo log space requests generally are log buffer related, meaning the
buffer may be too small.


Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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Hello all,

How does one measure if there is a contention for redo logs?

1. Is it that I see that the Log file parallel write has waited for more
than 0 (zero)?

or

2. You divide:-

 redo log space requests/no. of redo log entries  0.0002

Please advise.

rgds,

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9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.


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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi Raj,
 1. There is a way to do it. And Mr. Steve A. has some good info about it (
its implications) on his web site. (Sorry I do not have a direct URL link to
it). I believe this works for all versions. 
 2. Yes, it does. I have played with it on my test database.

 However, I will not do this on a Production database as it involves a
direct DML to modify sys.COL$.  And Oracle does not recommend doing such
things to your databases. 

I am not sure if renaming column is supported in 9i. Anyone else know for
sure? 

If you are using 8i, the safe way to address this is to add a new column to
the table, populate it with the contents from the old, and drop the old
column. If the column is not nullable, and if there are plenty of nullable
columns towards the end of the table, I suggest considering reorganization
of the table. I just did that (reorg) in the last couple of weeks with a
60Mil row table to get the new  not nullable columns towards the 'head' of
the table.  

HTH,

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande 
  Verizon Information Services
   http://www.superpages.com

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 Subject:  Renaming columns ...
 
 Hi all,
 
 although I am searching information on Metalink and OTN, I just want to
 ask
 this question to the list ...
 
 1. Is it possible to rename a column? (we have lots of columns that need
 to
 be renamed).  Which version supports it?
 2. Does renaming automatically takes care of indexes?
 
 Coding will be a lot of manual labor, but that's okay we can handle it.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Raj
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Re: Check/Remove stray shared_memory_segment and semaphore

2001-06-04 Thread Apps Sol



this is the error in my trace file and can U tell 
me where to find for this doc about glibc-

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  Hi Look under $ORACLE_HOME/bin 
  for oracle executable. Do you see the file ? There was an installation bug and 
  the relink fails with out creating the executable. If you do see the file 
  then, check under $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/log for any alert messages or traces. 
  Also, Did you follow the procedure to use glibc-2.1 instead of glibc-2.2 
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  semaphoreFolks,I am trying to start a new db on one of my new Linux box 
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  but I get a error at SVRMGR ORA-03113: end-of-file on 
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Re: Check/Remove stray shared_memory_segment and semaphore

2001-06-04 Thread Apps Sol

I was looking all day long for this doc.. can U point me to the right doc
number ..

Cheers


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 Not necessary to use glibc-2.1, Oracle has a patch for using
 with glibc-2.2.  It's on the download page for linux Oracle, it's
 at technet.oracle.com.

 It is a set of stubs that point 2.1 calls to 2.2 functions.  It
 requires relinking Oracle and includes instructions.

 Jared


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  $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/log for any alert messages or traces. Also, Did you
  follow the procedure to use glibc-2.1 instead of glibc-2.2 ?
 
  Thanks
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  Certified Oracle DBA
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  Folks,
 
  I am trying to start a new db on one of my new Linux box
  Dell 2450 , RHAT 7.0 and 8.1.6 .. 1GB ram and huge disk space ..
 
  but I get a error at SVRMGR
  ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
 
  when I further checked and changed my SID to a new one .. no luck
  I even tried DBASSIST (Hate to do it though) no luck ..
  there is no error in my alert log
 
  Can any one tell me what are the things i need to look into ..
 
 
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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Kirti,

Thanks for the info, BTW are there any significant advantages of moving NOT
NULL columns towards HEAD of the table?

Raj
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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-04 Thread MHately



That's definitely what they do. Anyone want to sell me a Sparc box?  Not you
Spence, the shipping costs would bankrupt me !!!

= )


Mike


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Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Hi all,
I added db writer processes last week to try and improve performance of one
of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if Oracle
actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens when
we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
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OPS, TAF and jAVA

2001-06-04 Thread Murali Vallath


We are looking at using TAF (never used before) for application fail over.
First, any guidelines we should be aware of in general.
Second any specific concerns using TAF with applications using JAVA.
Any stuff on how does TAF and OPS work in harmony?

Regards

Murali Vallath

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RE: COCO Proposal Review

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Leith

Ingredients:

225g soft unsalted butter
375g dark muscovado sugar
2 large eggs - beaten
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
100g best dark chocolate - melted
200g plain flour
1 teaspoon bicarbonate  of soda
250ml boiling water

23*13*7cm loaf tin

Preheat the oven to 190c/gas mark 5, put in a baking sheet case of gooey
sticky drips later;) and grease and line the loaf tin. The lining is
important  as this is a very damp cake: use parchment, Bake-O-Glide or one
of those loaf-tin-shaped paper cases.

Cream the butter and sugar, either with a wooden spoon or an electric hand
held mixer, then add the eggs and vanilla, beating in well. Next fold in the
melted and now slightly cooled chocolate, taking care to blend well, but
being careful not to over beat. You want the ingredients combined: you DON'T
want a light airy  mass. Then gently add the flour, to which you've added
the bicarb, alternately spoon by spoon, with the boiling water until you
have a smooth and fairly liquid batter. Pour into the lined loaf tin and
bake for 30 mins. turn the oven down to 170c/gas mark 3 and continue to cook
for another 15 mins. The cake will still be a bit squidgy inside, so an
inserted cake-tester or skewer won't come out completely clean.

Place the loaf tin on a rack, and leave to get completely cold (if you can
resist it G) before turning it out. (The *Author* recommends leaving it
for a day - hhuummm you won't get that far I can guarantee). Don't worry if
it sinks in the middle:  indeed it WILL do so because its such a dense and
damp cake.

Regards

Mark

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Anyone have this recipe handy that everyone is flaunting?


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So tell me Lee, how was the choccy cake? :)

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Damn, thought it was something to do with Chocolate 



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All,

I have just thrown together a proposal I plan on sending out to a bunch of
Oracle related groups (user groups etc..) to attempt to get some help in
putting together training for OCP.  Primarily I'm just using OCP as a basis
for creating free Oracle training.  Some of you may already be aware of my
fledgling web site (work of love).  Anyway I would like to get your comments
on the proposal as I suppose I have probably missed responding to some
fairly obvious questions in my zeal to get it out.  Please contact me
offline because I don't want to cludge up the list with this, just want to
get your opinions both negative and positive and address what you think
might be questions that would arise.

Thanks to all who help me out, there are some very cool and very competant
pro's on this list.  Save the flames regarding paper OCP's as the training
is not going to be an exam cram but real training and no need to throw out
the baby with the bath water.

http://www.freetechnicaltraining.com/docs/cocp_proposal.doc

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Oracel Support was Re: MaterializeRe: Snapshot Logs Explanation Needed

2001-06-04 Thread Dave Morgan

Hi All,
Anita is absolutely right. Before making any changes to
the data dictionary call Oracle support.

Before using undocumented parameters call Oracle Support.

Before doing anything that you do not know all of the side
effects for, CALL ORACLE SUPPORT!!!

You pay them enough, so use them.

Dave

A. Bardeen wrote:
 
 Dave,
 
 /* SOAPBOX ON */
 
 I'm well aware that hacking the data dictionary is
 possible, but you'll never see me advocating that on
 the list.  I believe hacking should be done only as a
 last resort to save a db or avoid rebuilding it and
 even then should be done only under the guidance of
 Oracle Support.  In many cases even they won't let you
 make the changes, but will require dial-in access so
 they can make the changes to ensure that they're done
 properly.
 
 Since there are virtually no PK/FK relationships
 defined in the data dictionary it's far too easy to
 miss one of the relationships and end up with a
 corrupted dictionary.  Said corruption may not
 manifest itself until days, weeks, or months later, at
 which point you'll have a bigger and messier problem
 than the original one.  So even if you practice this
 on a test db and it seems to work OK, it might just be
 that you haven't performed the operations that would
 reveal the corruption.
 
 Definitely not something I want to attempt via email.
 IMHO the disclaimers backup first and use at your
 own risk are insufficient.
 
 /* SOAPBOX OFF */
 
 -- Anita
 
 --- Dave Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Anita,
I'm not sure if you are the original poster but
  
 
There is a way to force a view into fast refresh
  mode
after you have restructured the snapshot logs
 
WARNING: This is unsupported by Oracle and involves
  messing
with the data dictionary.
 
I once had to create a 4GB snapshot over an ISDN
  line
This was done by creating the snapshot locally,
  exporting,
ftp, import and then:
 
In DBA_SNAPSHOTS (I believe) I compared the entry
  in the local
database to the remote. One field was different in
  my case. A simple
update to the data dictionary enabled the FAST
  REFRESH to take place.
 
THIS IS DANGEROUS STUFF :)
 
  Dave
 

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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

There is an oracle-supplied *.sql file to do this
...in the rdbms/admin directory as i recall. You will, 
of course, have to RTFM online and do some tinkering. 

I am so old that I can't remember much more about 
this, but anything to do with Diana sure perks me up. 

ahem. 

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|| 
|| 
|| This is right from Guru Steeve Adam's site
|| 
|| No, if the table is referred to in any stored PL/SQL 
|| program units, you
|| must first drop those program units and then manually delete 
|| the rows for
|| that table (based on its OBJ# from OBJ$) from the 4 data 
|| dictionary tables
|| beginning with IDL. The IDL tables contain the DIANA for the 
|| table, which
|| includes a knowledge of the old column name. That is why you 
|| need to get rid
|| of it. If you do this, it is perfectly safe to change column 
|| names directly,
|| even with stored PL/SQL.
|| Please note, however, that it is also perfectly unsupported. 
|| So think twice
|| before doing this on a production system. The supported way 
|| to solve this
|| problem is to rename the table, and interpose a view to 
|| translate the column
|| name. 
|| 
|| ps check up http://www.ixora.com.au
|| and do a search.  this was from one of the qa of 99.
|| 
|| regards  hth,
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|| 
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||  this question to the list ...
|| 
||  1. Is it possible to rename a column? (we have lots of 
|| columns that need
|| to
||  be renamed).  Which version supports it?
||  2. Does renaming automatically takes care of indexes?
|| 
||  Coding will be a lot of manual labor, but that's okay we 
|| can handle it.
|| 
||  Thanks in advance
||  Raj
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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

Now I would bet Linux will be next, not NT

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Does this prove that they write Oracle on Solaris, then port it over to the
other platforms?

: )

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Re: Steps for removing jobs

2001-06-04 Thread Simon . Anderson



Usefull article, but it missed one useful bit...

*  You can only manage your own jobs, even if you're a
DBA user.

-Not quite true, check out the DBMS_IJOB package.  Does the same things as
DBMS_JOB (submit, change  delete jobs, etc) but lets you specify the 'owning'
user.  I found it in the O'Reilly Oracle Built-in Packages book

It saves messing around with password-swapping and becoming other users.

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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

I found you absolutely have to use get right, anything from oracle site you
generally have to download a few times to get it to actully work, sometimes
I am lucky.


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I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM 
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RE SQLServer archiving

2001-06-04 Thread Dave Morgan

Hi James,
Well his clients disagree with you, and since
they have actually worked with him, I prefer
to trust their judgement.

And while SQL2000 may have logs mirrored by the 
database, SQLServer 7 did not.
Dave

James Xing wrote

snip 
 Your friend is Not a MSSQL/NT/2000 expert, apparently! 
snip

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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

Look under ps.

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Hi all,
I added db writer processes last week to try and improve performance
of one
of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if Oracle
actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens when
we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread William Beilstein

I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM 
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Re: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Joseph Raj

This is right from Guru Steeve Adam's site

No, if the table is referred to in any stored PL/SQL program units, you
must first drop those program units and then manually delete the rows for
that table (based on its OBJ# from OBJ$) from the 4 data dictionary tables
beginning with IDL. The IDL tables contain the DIANA for the table, which
includes a knowledge of the old column name. That is why you need to get rid
of it. If you do this, it is perfectly safe to change column names directly,
even with stored PL/SQL.
Please note, however, that it is also perfectly unsupported. So think twice
before doing this on a production system. The supported way to solve this
problem is to rename the table, and interpose a view to translate the column
name. 

ps check up http://www.ixora.com.au
and do a search.  this was from one of the qa of 99.

regards  hth,
Joseph Raj Kumar
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 although I am searching information on Metalink and OTN, I just want to
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 1. Is it possible to rename a column? (we have lots of columns that need
to
 be renamed).  Which version supports it?
 2. Does renaming automatically takes care of indexes?

 Coding will be a lot of manual labor, but that's okay we can handle it.

 Thanks in advance
 Raj
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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

Yes renaming a column is supported, in fact you can change almost every
aspect of a table online.
it works parallel to existing table, right before switching them over, it
gets the latest DML applied, then switches over.


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Hi Raj,
 1. There is a way to do it. And Mr. Steve A. has some good info about it (
its implications) on his web site. (Sorry I do not have a direct URL link to
it). I believe this works for all versions. 
 2. Yes, it does. I have played with it on my test database.

 However, I will not do this on a Production database as it involves a
direct DML to modify sys.COL$.  And Oracle does not recommend doing such
things to your databases. 

I am not sure if renaming column is supported in 9i. Anyone else know for
sure? 

If you are using 8i, the safe way to address this is to add a new column to
the table, populate it with the contents from the old, and drop the old
column. If the column is not nullable, and if there are plenty of nullable
columns towards the end of the table, I suggest considering reorganization
of the table. I just did that (reorg) in the last couple of weeks with a
60Mil row table to get the new  not nullable columns towards the 'head' of
the table.  

HTH,

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande 
  Verizon Information Services
   http://www.superpages.com

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 although I am searching information on Metalink and OTN, I just want to
 ask
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 1. Is it possible to rename a column? (we have lots of columns that need
 to
 be renamed).  Which version supports it?
 2. Does renaming automatically takes care of indexes?
 
 Coding will be a lot of manual labor, but that's okay we can handle it.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Raj
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RE: Check/Remove stray shared_memory_segment and semaphore

2001-06-04 Thread Kevin Lange

I have it.  If  you want the tar file just e-mail me directly and I send it
to you.

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I was looking all day long for this doc.. can U point me to the right doc
number ..

Cheers


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 Not necessary to use glibc-2.1, Oracle has a patch for using
 with glibc-2.2.  It's on the download page for linux Oracle, it's
 at technet.oracle.com.

 It is a set of stubs that point 2.1 calls to 2.2 functions.  It
 requires relinking Oracle and includes instructions.

 Jared


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  Look under $ORACLE_HOME/bin for oracle executable. Do you see
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  $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/log for any alert messages or traces. Also, Did you
  follow the procedure to use glibc-2.1 instead of glibc-2.2 ?
 
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  Folks,
 
  I am trying to start a new db on one of my new Linux box
  Dell 2450 , RHAT 7.0 and 8.1.6 .. 1GB ram and huge disk space ..
 
  but I get a error at SVRMGR
  ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
 
  when I further checked and changed my SID to a new one .. no luck
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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Post, Ethan

Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet (Tucows.com)
the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E

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I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.

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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-04 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I want one too, I need one for home to run StarOffice.

A Starfire(?) would be all right I think.

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)


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That's definitely what they do. Anyone want to sell me a Sparc box?
Not you
Spence, the shipping costs would bankrupt me !!!

= )


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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-04 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

In a perfect world maybe, but 80% or more of the business world is using
some form of windows!!

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It just proves what we all knew .  Unix  Not NT. Never NT ...

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Does this prove that they write Oracle on Solaris, then port it over to the
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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Haskins, Ed

Kev,

Trying to add multiple DBWR processes on NT is useless since NT uses asynch.
I/O.  If you remember, all the Oracle processes (DBWR, LGWR, CKPT, ARCH,
etc.) run as threads under the oracle.exe process.

Multiple DBWR processes are definitely a Unix thing!

Also, here's something from MetaStink on the issue:

Oracle on NT only allows/needs a single database writer process (DBWR). 

Multiple DBWRs on UNIX is not multiple real DBWRs which 
all go scan for dirty buffers and write them to disk. It's really just one
real DBWR and some I/O slaves. The real DBWR tells the slave DBWRs to do
I/O. 

On NT, there's really no need for this since async I/O and NT will 
take care of all that for you. NT acts as the I/O slaves and the real DBWR
[1 DBWR thread] then checks the slaves to see if the I/O is done. 

Melissa Holman 
Oracle Support


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actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
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Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
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Re: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Rodd Holman

There is a tool in the WinNT Resource Kit that lets you look at 
individual threads per process.  I don't remember what the name is, but 
it's in there.

Try doing a select against v$session and v$bgprocess you should from 
v$bgprocess you should get a DBW0 and DBW1 under the listing of 
background processes.

select s.sid, s.serial#, s.schemaname, s.program, b.name
from   v$session s, v$bgprocess b
where  s.paddr = b.paddr;


HTH

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Oracle
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 db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am 
assuming
 that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens 
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 Sincerely,
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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Post, Ethan

Kevin,

I apologize for asking but this is for the benefit of others possibly.  But
how did you determine that your instance may require an additional DBWR
process.  What led you to think that you had an bottleneck with only one
process?

Thanks,
Ethan

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of one
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actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens when
we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

Column position has no value what so ever.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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Kirti,

Thanks for the info, BTW are there any significant advantages of moving NOT
NULL columns towards HEAD of the table?

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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Vadim Gorbounov

Hi, Kevin, 

Maybe this query will help:

SQLselect PROGRAM from v$process where  PROGRAM like '%DBW%';

Regards

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actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
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we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

That has been known for some time.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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Does this prove that they write Oracle on Solaris, then port it over to the
other platforms?

: )

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Re: COCO Proposal Review

2001-06-04 Thread Jared Still


Poor Ethan, his serious post about Oracle training has
been morphed into chocolate cake recipes.

Come on folks, give him a break.

Jared


On Friday 01 June 2001 16:14, Post, Ethan wrote:
 All,

 I have just thrown together a proposal I plan on sending out to a bunch of
 Oracle related groups (user groups etc..) to attempt to get some help in
 putting together training for OCP.  Primarily I'm just using OCP as a basis
 for creating free Oracle training.  Some of you may already be aware of my
 fledgling web site (work of love).  Anyway I would like to get your
 comments on the proposal as I suppose I have probably missed responding to
 some fairly obvious questions in my zeal to get it out.  Please contact me
 offline because I don't want to cludge up the list with this, just want to
 get your opinions both negative and positive and address what you think
 might be questions that would arise.

 Thanks to all who help me out, there are some very cool and very competant
 pro's on this list.  Save the flames regarding paper OCP's as the training
 is not going to be an exam cram but real training and no need to throw
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 http://www.freetechnicaltraining.com/docs/cocp_proposal.doc

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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Rodd Holman

Unless Oracle changed the way it reported this, that won't work on NT.  
Oracle On NT didn't used to report bg procs in the program field of 
v$session.  This may have changed with 8i.  I haven't worked with 8i on 
NT.  Used to have to join v$session and v$bgprocess on paddr.

Rodd Holman

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   Hi, Kevin,

   Maybe this query will help:

 SQL  select PROGRAM from v$process where  PROGRAM like '%DBW%';
   
   Regards

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   I added db writer processes last week to try and improve 
performance
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 of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if 
Oracle
 actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
 db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am 
assuming
 that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens 
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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Kevin,

see this link ...
http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/doc_library/901_doc/server.901/
a90117/tables.htm#12596

this link will be broken, but put it on one line and click ... there is a
complete example ...

BTW Oracle has done one job very well ... the 9i document search interface,
it rocks !!
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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread murosa


 You can see that at operating system level using next sentence:

  ps -ef | grep dbwr





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Hi all,
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of one
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Oracle
actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens
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Re: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Jared Still

On Monday 04 June 2001 10:16, Christopher Spence wrote:
 Look under ps.

Really?  On NT?

Jared


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 Hi all,
   I added db writer processes last week to try and improve performance
 of one
 of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if
 Oracle actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
 db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
 that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens
 when we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

 Sincerely,
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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

I vote we do.

I am actually trying to see if an Sun Ultra 1 will run Oracle 9i without any
problems.  If it does, I will through like 25 of them on ebay.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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On Monday 04 June 2001 10:16, Christopher Spence wrote:
 Now I would bet Linux will be next, not NT


Interesting observation, should we start a pool?  :)

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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Leith

Have you tried v$bgprocess ?

Regards

Mark

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Hi all,
I added db writer processes last week to try and improve performance of one
of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if Oracle
actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens when
we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Kevin Kostyszyn
DBA
Dulcian, Inc
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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Renaming columns ...





To add to Kirti's' comments - 


The same applies for columns that have default values defined.


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Hi Raj,
 The trailing null columns in a row do not take up any space in the data
block. So in a table with many columns, the columns that may contain null
values should be defined towards the end of the row to optimize disk space
usage. 


HTH.


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 Kirti,
 
 Thanks for the info, BTW are there any significant advantages of moving
 NOT
 NULL columns towards HEAD of the table?
 
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RE: On the question of What is a Large Database Anyway ?

2001-06-04 Thread Vikas Kawatra

Can anyone refer me to a site that lists this book as available..



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Cary wrote the intro (and, along with Scott Gossett of Oracle University, 
Craig Shallahamer and a few other unknowns) did the tech-edit. I had the 
privilege of doing the developmental edit (this means I got to help Gaja 
make it fun and understandable for an entry-level tuner). But it also meant 
I got to read it as Gaja and Kirti were writing it it's a wonderful book

and I believe it's actually out now.


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It's a good book. Cary Millsap has even written the intro :).

Yep, Gaja will talk about using the wait-interface (available since 7.0.12)

instead of all these stupid and mis-leading ratios flying around. That and 
Jonathan Lewis' book are the best I've seen since Dave Ensors Oracle8 
Design book, but that's kind of old now.

For the original intro to the wait-interface (or time-based) tuning, you 
should of course read Anjo Kolks famous YAPP paper.

Post, Ethan wrote:

  I just got back from a little seminar from Quest with Gaja Krishna
  Vaidyanatha and if he was dead (he's not that I'm aware of) he would be
  rolling in his grave about your comments on hit rates and SGA sizes.  
His
  new book 101 Oracle Performance Tuning will stress that you abandon 
those
  hit rates and focus on V$SYSTEM_EVENT, V$SESSION_EVENT and 
V$SESSION_WAIT in
  combination with CPU and IO stats.  He states that Oracle is rather well
  designed for physical IO.  His presentation was great and I'm definatley
  going to buy his book because I can learn something from this guy.  So 
maybe
  those small SGA's aren't so bad after all :)
 
  
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072131454/o/qid=991436418/sr=2-1/re
f
  =aps_sr_b_1_1/002-4814740-2092864
 
  - Ethan Post
 
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  As most everyone has said so far   Its all subjective.  What is 
large to
  me  is a dinky little thing to someone else.
 
  Right now at my current job we have around 37 instances on 4 mchines 
with 2
  GB or less of memory and 2 - 4 processors each.  These DBs range from a 
10
  MB to a 70 MB SGA (yes, sounded real small to me when I got here also).
  These databases are all in the realm of 60 - 100 GB of data each.
 
  My last job we had 2 machines running 4  instances.  These DBs had SGAs 
from
  350 MB to 980 MB in size with 4 CPUs using 4 GB of memory.   As far as 
size
  goes, we had upwards of a Terrabyte of data.
 
  To me, I have found that I have to treat both setups the same.  They 
really
  do have the same problems (space, hit rates, drive failures, hardware
  failures, etc.)  You just have to pay closer attention to certain 
aspects of
  them differently.  With the small SGAs we have to look real close at hit
  rates and all the Memory Dependent aspects of the DB.  With the large 
amount
  of data on the other DB we had to look more closely at Data and file 
related
  problems.
 
  All I am trying to say is .  its all subjective.
 
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Re: Size, what is it?

2001-06-04 Thread Dave Morgan

Hi Mogens

I agree with all your statements.

What I am trying to figure out is what is it that streches the 
machine. I was quite surprised to see an E450 doing 10GB of
transaction logs per day. Pure OLTP using stored procs.

I was hoping to get descriptions of the types and amounts of work 
a large or busy database does along with the description of 
the hardware that is being used. This would allow a baseline to
be developed for estimating. 

For example how much OLTP work can a Linux 2 CPU machine with
lots of memory do? How many DSS users can a similar machine 
support? I would also like to ask similar questions about other
UNIX configurations? VAX/VMS would also be interesting.
NT, someone else can do the work if they want :) 

SUN is also now offering hardware RAID 3 in their RSM2000 array.
As I mentioned the Baydel array beats RAID 5 easily, and is 
substantially cheaper than an equivalent RAID 10 (1+0) array
which is my preference. (and everyone elses :)

Thanks for your input.

Dave


Mogens wrote ...

 My dear friend Cary Millsap once came up with a definition for a VLDB: It's any
 database that stretches its hardware.

 I cannot see any relationship between SGA and database sizes. None.

 RAID-3: Bit-level striping. Incredible it still exists (in my opinion) :).

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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread John Kanagaraj

I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC.

No Patrice - you were not the last! I thought Kevin was 'independent', so
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RE: Idea for Very Cool 9i.x Feature

2001-06-04 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Ethan,

http://technet.oracle.com:2000  

I recently complained to Oracle about their usage of non standard port
numbers (which sometimes are blocked by companies, like ours). So, I
received a reply (within 8 hours Surprise !) that Oracle is in the process
of moving to standard port numbers for various public services.

HTH
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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

HELP ! 

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 ALTER TABLE table_name MODIFY ( new_col_name DATATYPE);
 
 It works for me in 8i.
 
 
 
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 Chris:
 
 I've been browzing the on-line docs for 9i and the release notes and have
 seen nothing about renaming a column...can you point me to the location in
 the docs that give the syntax?
 
 Thanks
 Kevin
 
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 Yes renaming a column is supported, in fact you can change almost every
 aspect of a table online.
 it works parallel to existing table, right before switching them over, it
 gets the latest DML applied, then switches over.
 
 
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OT RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

Yea, NT blows. Blows like a fresh wind against the empire. 


(1st one to name that song lyric reference and i buy you a beer. 
 NT bigots and their families summarily excused from this offer.:)

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|| 
|| Doubt, didnt' see NT, boy NT blows.
|| 
|| I hate how it doesn't list out the processes.
|| 
|| Walking on water and developing software from a 
|| specification are easy if
|| both are frozen.
|| 
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|| 
|| Really?  On NT?
|| 
|| Jared
|| 
|| 
||  Walking on water and developing software from a 
|| specification are easy if
||  both are frozen.
|| 
||  Christopher R. Spence
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|| 
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|| 
||  Hi all,
|| I added db writer processes last week to try and 
|| improve performance
||  of one
||  of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a 
|| way to see if
||  Oracle actually started the additional db writer 
|| processes?  I added
||  db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am
|| assuming
||  that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know 
|| what happens
||  when we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
|| 
||  Sincerely,
||  Kevin Kostyszyn
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ora-600

2001-06-04 Thread Raghu Kota



Hi Friends

What does it mean??

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17112], [33054472]

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Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Joe Raube

See:

http://www.tusc.com/oracle/news/20010222a.html

WORLD-RENOWNED ORACLE EXPERT KEVIN LONEY JOINS TUSC 
CHICAGO (Feb. 22, 2001) -- TUSC, the Oracle Experts, has announced a second major 
appointment in the past week with the hiring of world-renowned Oracle database 
administrator Kevin M. Loney. 

I found this on http://www.kevinloney.com/whatnews.htm

-Joe

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 Kevin Loney does work for TUSC and has for some time now.
 
 
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  I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC.
 
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OT RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

ARE YOU AN IDIOT

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||  Subject:   RE: Renaming columns ...
||  
||  ALTER TABLE table_name MODIFY ( new_col_name DATATYPE);
||  
||  It works for me in 8i.
||  
||  
||  
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||  
||  
||  Chris:
||  
||  I've been browzing the on-line docs for 9i and the release 
|| notes and have
||  seen nothing about renaming a column...can you point me to 
|| the location in
||  the docs that give the syntax?
||  
||  Thanks
||  Kevin
||  
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||  Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 1:17 PM
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||  
||  
||  Yes renaming a column is supported, in fact you can change 
|| almost every
||  aspect of a table online.
||  it works parallel to existing table, right before 
|| switching them over, it
||  gets the latest DML applied, then switches over.
||  
||  
||  Walking on water and developing software from a 
|| specification are easy if
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RE: Oracle 9i is on technet (NT)

2001-06-04 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Nope. HP-UX and AIX are in the next batch. BSOD will be there in 
August and Linux not before the late October. May be you'll even have
to wait for the last week of Novebmer to give thanks to the Oracle Corp.

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On Monday 04 June 2001 10:16, Christopher Spence wrote:
 Now I would bet Linux will be next, not NT


Interesting observation, should we start a pool?  :)

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RE: performance impact of optimizer_search_limit

2001-06-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

DDES!
This parameter is session modifiable. 

To wit:

SVRMGR alter session set optimizer_search_limit=400;
ORA-00068: invalid value 400 for parameter optimizer_search_limit, must be
between 3 and 255

So, 

IF  (you='heavily certified') 
THEN  (wave OCP pigskin over dbms, wait for result)
ELSIF (you='DIY type')
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|| 
|| 
|| 
|| Steve, 
|| 
|| I'm curious as the difference in execution plans that
|| made such a drastic improvement.
|| 
|| My guess would be it went from a hash join to nested
|| loops with an index.
|| 
|| Jared
|| 
|| 
|| On Monday 04 June 2001 04:55, Wilkes, Steve wrote:
||  Hi,
|| 
||  Oracle 8.0.5
||  AIX 4.3.3
|| 
||  I have improved the response time of one of my 8 table 
|| join queries by
||  increasing optimizer_search_limit from the default 5 to 8. 
|| At the value of
||  8 the plan changes and has made a 10 min query run in 
|| under 5 seconds. The
||  optimizer is set to CHOOSE with the statistics up to date 
|| and a sample size
||  of 20%. This is a third party application and I don't have 
|| access to the
||  source code to add hints. The value of 
|| optimizer_max_permutations has been
||  left at 8.
|| 
||  I know that this makes the optimizer now check 8!=40320 
|| permutations
||  instead of 5!=120 permutations. I expect the parse time to 
|| increase but
||  does anyone have any experience as to the performance 
|| impact that this may
||  have? Any horror stories?
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Re: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread kjanusz

Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a 
difference?  Also, has anyone tried Download Accelerator 
Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
 
 I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.
 
 Jared
 
 
 On Monday 04 June 2001 10:00, Post, Ethan wrote:
  Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet (Tucows.com)
  the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
 
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  I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM 
 
  I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip files.
  Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this monster?
  I have downloaded each file 3-4 times now in the last 2 days.
 
 
  Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
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RE: When are the various Bckground process stated during the DATA

2001-06-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

RTFalert.log.

It contains the start order/timestamp for each. 

Happy R'ing!

- Ross

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|| A quick Q, 
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Re: OCP Model Questions

2001-06-04 Thread Krishna Kakatur

Hi,

I have got this response from many and checked that the site is OK.

May be the problem is with your proxy. I too can't access any site from my 
office which has an underscore within url, not the case when I access from 
my home. I think this is something to do with Proxy settings.

Please check if you can change proxy settings/ try alternate solutions.

-- Krishna


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the url does not work


On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:10:45
  Krishna Kakatur wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have compiled some model questions for OCP DBA Test at
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RE: Training Database

2001-06-04 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi John,
 Here is an archived (my personal) post from Mladan Gogala related to a
similar question... 
 Hope this helps..
 Regards, 

  -Original Message-
From:   Mladen Gogala [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, January 10, 2000 10:54 PM
To: oracle list
Cc: oracle list
Subject:Re: How To Extract A Subset Of The Data

There is a product called Move For Servers, which can extract
logically 
consistent sample database (by following  foreign keys) from the
company called Princeton Softech in Princeton, NJ. Their URL is:
http://www.princetonsoftech.com.
My company (Oxford Health Plans) uses their product and I'm a very
happy
customer.

 
- Kirti Deshpande 
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Re: Windows ME and Net8

2001-06-04 Thread Luis DeUrioste

I would try using the WIN2K Client CD.

Good Luck

April Wells wrote:

 We have several clients, mostly running NT or 98, and we have been able to
 get Net8 to install fine.  Using the same CD, we cannot get it to install on
 Windows ME.  I have been trying to get an answer as to support from
 Metalink, but so far have been unable to get an answer.  Does anyone have
 any experience one way or another?

 Thank You
 April Wells

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 April,

 Here is the error message that I received when attempting to install Oracle
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RE: ora-600

2001-06-04 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi, 
It generally means Contat Oracle Support. 

You may try to have your alert log file scanned at
http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html.  Set
Search Depth to 0. 

Very nice little tool from Unal Bilisim. I used it a few times with good
results. 

HTH

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande 
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 What does it mean??
 
 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17112], [33054472]
 
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OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Mohan, Ross

And Rachel works for Godiva. 

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Re: OCP Model Questions

2001-06-04 Thread Donald Bricker

Remove the ). from the url and it works.  
http://smart_and_handsome.tripod.com/oracle.html

 Krishna Kakatur [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 03:44PM 
Hi,

I have got this response from many and checked that the site is OK.

May be the problem is with your proxy. I too can't access any site from my 
office which has an underscore within url, not the case when I access from 
my home. I think this is something to do with Proxy settings.

Please check if you can change proxy settings/ try alternate solutions.

-- Krishna


From: Viraj Luthra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: OCP Model Questions
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:10:21 -0800


the url does not work


On Sun, 03 Jun 2001 22:10:45
  Krishna Kakatur wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have compiled some model questions for OCP DBA Test at
 http://www.oraref.com (mirrored at
 http://smart_and_handsome.tripod.com/oracle.html).
 
 If you have more, I will be happy to add them to the Web Page.
 
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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Rodd Holman

It's right there SID = 2, SERIAL# = 1.  The name column is the THREAD 
running the background process.  The program column is the PROCESS under 
NT which is ORACLE80.EXE.  Oracle on NT runs ALL the oracle processes 
under one process with many threads that's why you need the join to 
v$bgprocess to get the thread name.

Rodd Holman

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On 6/4/01, 2:46:19 PM, Raghu Kota [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding 
RE: Database writer:


 But I don't see any Processors for DBWr except ORACLE80.EXE!!

 SIDSERIAL#SCHEMANAME PROGRAM
   NAME
 -- -- --
 ---
 - -
  1  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
   PMON
  2  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
   DBW0
  3  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
   ARCH
  4  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
   LGWR
  5  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
   CKPT
  6  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
   SMON
  7  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
   RECO
  8  7 SYS
   SNP0
  9  7 SYS
   SNP1
 9 rows selected.


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 Subject: RE: Database writer
 Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:16:07 -0800
 
 That was the query I was looking for.
 
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 Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 12:46 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 There is a tool in the WinNT Resource Kit that lets you look at
 individual threads per process.  I don't remember what the name is, but
 it's in there.
 
 Try doing a select against v$session and v$bgprocess you should from
 v$bgprocess you should get a DBW0 and DBW1 under the listing of
 background processes.
 
 select s.sid, s.serial#, s.schemaname, s.program, b.name
 from   v$session s, v$bgprocess b
 where  s.paddr = b.paddr;
 
 
 HTH
 
 Rodd Holman
 
   Original Message 
 
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regarding
 Database writer:
 
 
   Hi all,
 I added db writer processes last week to try and improve
 performance of one
   of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if
 Oracle
   actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
   db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am
 assuming
   that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens
 when
   we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.
 
   Sincerely,
   Kevin Kostyszyn
   DBA
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RE: ora-600

2001-06-04 Thread Gogala, Mladen

It means that you should be calling 1-800-223-1711 and have your CSI ready
instead of having fun on this mailing list..

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Hi Friends

What does it mean??

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17112], [33054472]

Thanks
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RE: Renaming columns ...

2001-06-04 Thread PHU,JULIA (HP-Sunnyvale,ex2)


Oops! My apology. It was for datatype changed. Erased what I said.



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How does it know which column to rename?

At 11:21 AM 6/4/01 -0800, you wrote:
ALTER TABLE table_name MODIFY ( new_col_name DATATYPE);

It works for me in 8i.






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Chris:

I've been browzing the on-line docs for 9i and the release notes and have
seen nothing about renaming a column...can you point me to the location in
the docs that give the syntax?

Thanks
Kevin

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Yes renaming a column is supported, in fact you can change almost every
aspect of a table online.
it works parallel to existing table, right before switching them over, it
gets the latest DML applied, then switches over.


Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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Hi Raj,
  1. There is a way to do it. And Mr. Steve A. has some good info about it
(
its implications) on his web site. (Sorry I do not have a direct URL link
to
it). I believe this works for all versions.
  2. Yes, it does. I have played with it on my test database.

  However, I will not do this on a Production database as it involves a
direct DML to modify sys.COL$.  And Oracle does not recommend doing such
things to your databases.

I am not sure if renaming column is supported in 9i. Anyone else know for
sure?

If you are using 8i, the safe way to address this is to add a new column to
the table, populate it with the contents from the old, and drop the old
column. If the column is not nullable, and if there are plenty of nullable
columns towards the end of the table, I suggest considering reorganization
of the table. I just did that (reorg) in the last couple of weeks with a
60Mil row table to get the new  not nullable columns towards the 'head' of
the table.

HTH,

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande
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  Subject:  Renaming columns ...
 
  Hi all,
 
  although I am searching information on Metalink and OTN, I just want to
  ask
  this question to the list ...
 
  1. Is it possible to rename a column? (we have lots of columns that need
  to
  be renamed).  Which version supports it?
  2. Does renaming automatically takes care of indexes?
 
  Coding will be a lot of manual labor, but that's okay we can handle it.
 
  Thanks in advance
  Raj
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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Leith

Well duh? :)

Sorry, but isn't the Database Writer an Oracle process?

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But I don't see any Processors for DBWr except ORACLE80.EXE!!

SIDSERIAL#SCHEMANAME PROGRAM
  NAME
-- -- --
---
- -
 1  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
  PMON
 2  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
  DBW0
 3  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
  ARCH
 4  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
  LGWR
 5  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
  CKPT
 6  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
  SMON
 7  1 SYSORACLE80.EXE
  RECO
 8  7 SYS
  SNP0
 9  7 SYS
  SNP1
9 rows selected.


From: Kevin Kostyszyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Database writer
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 10:16:07 -0800

That was the query I was looking for.

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There is a tool in the WinNT Resource Kit that lets you look at
individual threads per process.  I don't remember what the name is, but
it's in there.

Try doing a select against v$session and v$bgprocess you should from
v$bgprocess you should get a DBW0 and DBW1 under the listing of
background processes.

select s.sid, s.serial#, s.schemaname, s.program, b.name
from   v$session s, v$bgprocess b
where  s.paddr = b.paddr;


HTH

Rodd Holman

  Original Message 

On 6/4/01, 10:55:35 AM, Kevin Kostyszyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding
Database writer:


  Hi all,
I added db writer processes last week to try and improve
performance of one
  of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if
Oracle
  actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
  db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am
assuming
  that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens
when
  we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

  Sincerely,
  Kevin Kostyszyn
  DBA
  Dulcian, Inc
  www.dulcian.com
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: Idea for Very Cool 9i.x Feature

2001-06-04 Thread Jared Still

On Monday 04 June 2001 10:56, Post, Ethan wrote:
 Where do we submit our ideas for enhancement ideas anyway?

If you haven't already, join IOUG.  That is where
official enhancement requests come from.  

Jared
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RE: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

Steve Feuerstein works for Quest  Wow, cool, interesting.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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And Rachel works for Godiva. 

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RE: ora-600

2001-06-04 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn

Well, is the answer for all ORA 600's, I have noticed there are different
ones.  One of my fellow employees just called me and told me that the
production instance at a clients site just went down with ORA 600.  He said
that it said in paren's, (with complications).  Now what in the good lords
name does that mean?  I looked on Metasuck and I haven't seen anything.  Is
the only answer to call support, or just hammer away until he figures it
out?  Anyone seen this before. And yes I know, it 8.1.5 on NT..
Kev

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Hi,
It generally means Contat Oracle Support.

You may try to have your alert log file scanned at
http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html.  Set
Search Depth to 0.

Very nice little tool from Unal Bilisim. I used it a few times with good
results.

HTH

Regards,

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 Hi Friends

 What does it mean??

 ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17112], [33054472]

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RE: 9i download

2001-06-04 Thread Mark Leith

I use it on a 56k dial up, and it works great!!

Mark

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Is that ReGet Junior or Deluxe?  Or, does it make a
difference?  Also, has anyone tried Download Accelerator
Plus?  It seems to be a similar product.

Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM

 I'll second that.  It's the only way to get a clean download from technet.

 Jared


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  Note sure if your using a download manager Chris, I used ReGet
(Tucows.com)
  the other day to get 8.1.7.3 and it worked really great. - E
 
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  I could never successfully download the file. I ended up getting the CD.
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/04/01 11:15AM 
 
  I keep trying to download 9i and the files keep being invalid gzip
files.
  Anyone else have this problem or have successfully downloaded this
monster?
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RE: ora-600

2001-06-04 Thread Thapliyal, Deepak

Raghu,

as Mladen said .. it means that u have hit an oracle bug.. generally the
first parameter tells Oracle what code path encountered the bug. Other
parameters are specific and relavant measures that might vary based on what
the first parameter is. In addition, ora-600 is accompanied by a trace file
that dumps a lot of crap in addition to the stack tace that is nothing but
the sequence of kernel calls that lead to the failure.. 

hth

Deepak

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It means that you should be calling 1-800-223-1711 and have your CSI ready
instead of having fun on this mailing list..

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Hi Friends

What does it mean??

ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17112], [33054472]

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RE: ora-600

2001-06-04 Thread Kevin Lange

Ora-600 .  thats the new race where they make you run around sending
them this and that 600 times before they tell you  we have no Idea.

Its the Oracle Catch-All error.   Call Support.  They will probably want to
see any dump or trace files generated.

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Well, is the answer for all ORA 600's, I have noticed there are different
ones.  One of my fellow employees just called me and told me that the
production instance at a clients site just went down with ORA 600.  He said
that it said in paren's, (with complications).  Now what in the good lords
name does that mean?  I looked on Metasuck and I haven't seen anything.  Is
the only answer to call support, or just hammer away until he figures it
out?  Anyone seen this before. And yes I know, it 8.1.5 on NT..
Kev

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Hi,
It generally means Contat Oracle Support.

You may try to have your alert log file scanned at
http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html.  Set
Search Depth to 0.

Very nice little tool from Unal Bilisim. I used it a few times with good
results.

HTH

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande
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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Christopher Spence

Can't let that happen!  If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all
us oracle guru's will be useless against that product.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
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And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their 
recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list.


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and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest


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I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike
Ault now works for TUSC also.
Ron Rogers
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Re: don't anger the xoxolate gods / Re: Idea for Very Cool

2001-06-04 Thread Dennis Taylor

At 11:16 AM 6/4/01 -0800, you wrote:
the punishment for further offence will be to be reborn as 
a human sized cochroach  made to work in marketing.

But you are repeating yourself


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Re: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Jared Still


Kevin,

What size is your redo log buffer?

Jared

On Monday 04 June 2001 08:55, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
 Hi all,
   I added db writer processes last week to try and improve performance of
 one of my 8.1.7 db's on NT.  Does anyone know if there is a way to see if
 Oracle actually started the additional db writer processes?  I added
 db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
 that the db writer processes are working.  But we all know what happens
 when we assume something.  Any ideas would be appreciated.

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Compute statisics

2001-06-04 Thread Browett, Darren

I have just received some notes from one our applications support, and they
suggest after I compute statistics for the objects within their schema, that
I then
delete those statistics where num_rows * avg_row_len  65000 ??

What affect could this possibly have on the system ?

I thought you would want statistics on all objects for the optimizer to
function efficently

Thank you in advance

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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Who is Kevin Loney?

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Can't let that happen!  If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all
us oracle guru's will be useless against that product.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their 
recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list.


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and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest


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how to run procedure containig REF CURSOR as datatype

2001-06-04 Thread Harvinder Singh

Hi,

What value to pass as io_cursor in the following procedureHow to run the
procedures containing REF CURSOR..

create or replace package GetRateSchedules_pkg as
 TYPE t_cursor is REF CURSOR;
 procedure GetRateSchedules( temp_id_acc int,acc_cycle_id
int,default_pl int,RecordDate date,temp_id_pi_type int,io_cursor in out
t_cursor);
 end;



i am getting error when i run the following code:

 declare
 TYPE t_cursor is REF CURSOR;
 io_cursor t_cursor;
 begin
 getrateschedules_pkg.getrateschedules(1,2,3,sysdate,4,io_cursor);
 end;
 /

ORA-01790: expression must have same datatype as corresponding
expression.

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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread John Kanagaraj


And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their 
recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list.


As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are:
Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning'
fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), 

And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike
Ault, ...

So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support
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RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Ari D Kaplan

At TUSC, there are more authors than Rich Niemiec, Mike Ault, and Kevin
Loney. There are also Brad Brown, Joe Trezzo, Tony Catalano.

-Ari

On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, John Kanagaraj wrote:

 
 And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their 
 recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list.
 
 
 As far as I am aware, some of the very respectable 'big guns' at Quest are:
 Gaja, Eyal Aronoff, Guy Harrison (yes - the one from the 'Oracle SQL tuning'
 fame), Steven Feuerstein (of PL/SQL fame), 
 
 And now, as TUSC are: Rich Niemiec (President IOUG-A?), Kevin Loney, Mike
 Ault, ...
 
 So is this coalition a viable alternative to the all-knowing Oracle Support
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RE: NT script question ???

2001-06-04 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Go to http://www.activestate.com, get perl, DBI  DBD::Oracle and you'll
have all the cripting tools that you'll ever need. Associative arrays, state
of the art reuglar expressions, functions, format commands and well
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Oracletool (http://www.oracletool.com), two excellent DBA utilities with the

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Hi, 

I have couple of questions about bat file in NT 4.0
for Oracle 8.1.5.

1. how to make bat file take parameters.  I had a
backup.bat, and like to pass in Oracle SID, so the
script can backup any database.

2. in the bat file, how to dynamically append
date/time into a directory name,  like
backup_06022001121314

Thank you!

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export causes segmentation fault

2001-06-04 Thread Nguyen, Long (ITS, Limestone Ave)


Hi,

A friend of mine ran an export and got segmentation fault. It seems to be a bug with 
8.1.6 on Solaris 5.8 and relates to character sets. Below is the info supplied by him. 
Anyone has experienced the same problem or could give a suggestion
what to  try? I searched Metalink and could not find any references to this problem.

Thanks


 The database was created with charset and ncharset both set to
 WE8ISO8859P1:

 select * from NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS

 NLS_LANGUAGE AMERICAN
 NLS_TERRITORY AMERICA
 NLS_CURRENCY $
 NLS_ISO_CURRENCY AMERICA
 NLS_NUMERIC_CHARACTERS .,
 NLS_CHARACTERSET WE8ISO8859P1
 NLS_CALENDAR GREGORIAN
 NLS_DATE_FORMAT DD-MON-RR
 NLS_DATE_LANGUAGE AMERICAN
 NLS_SORT BINARY
 NLS_TIME_FORMAT HH.MI.SSXFF AM
 NLS_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFF AM
 NLS_TIME_TZ_FORMAT HH.MI.SSXFF AM TZH:TZM
 NLS_TIMESTAMP_TZ_FORMAT DD-MON-RR HH.MI.SSXFF AM TZH:TZM
 NLS_DUAL_CURRENCY $
 NLS_COMP BINARY
 NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET WE8ISO8859P1
 NLS_RDBMS_VERSION 8.1.6.0.0

 ---

 When exporting the largest table, IF the client has US7ASCII
 set as the nls charset, the export works fine:

 $ export NLS_LANG=American_America.US7ASCII
 $ exp
 Export: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Mon Jun 4 10:37:28 2001
 (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
 Username: aleg
 Password:
 Connected to: Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.0.0 - 64bit
 Production
 With the Partitioning option
 JServer Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production
 Enter array fetch buffer size: 4096  2560
 Export file: expdat.dmp  /tmp/x.dmp
 (2)U(sers), or (3)T(ables): (2)U  3
 Export table data (yes/no): yes 
 Compress extents (yes/no): yes 
 Export done in US7ASCII character set and WE8ISO8859P1 NCHAR character
 set
 server uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible charset conversion)
 About to export specified tables via Conventional Path ...
 Table(T) or Partition(T:P) to be exported: (RETURN to quit) 
topicrels

 . . exporting table  TOPICRELS4826389 rows
 exported
 Table(T) or Partition(T:P) to be exported: (RETURN to quit) 

 Export terminated successfully without warnings.

 ---

 Note the warning: Export done in US7ASCII character set and
 WE8ISO8859P1
  NCHAR character set server uses WE8ISO8859P1 character set (possible
 charset conversion), which I guess we expect!

 

 Now, if we set the client NLS_LANG to match the database, the export
 fails:

 $ export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.WE8ISO8859P1
 $ exp
 Export: Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production on Mon Jun 4 10:41:38 2001
 (c) Copyright 1999 Oracle Corporation.  All rights reserved.
 Username: aleg
 Password:
 Connected to: Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.0.0 - 64bit
 Production
 With the Partitioning option
 JServer Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production
 Enter array fetch buffer size: 4096  2560
 Export file: expdat.dmp  /tmp/x.dmp
 (2)U(sers), or (3)T(ables): (2)U  3
 Export table data (yes/no): yes 
 Compress extents (yes/no): yes 
 Export done in WE8ISO8859P1 character set and WE8ISO8859P1 NCHAR
 character set
 About to export specified tables via Conventional Path ...
 Table(T) or Partition(T:P) to be exported: (RETURN to quit) 
topicrels

 . . exporting table  TOPICRELS4826389 rows
 exportedSegmen
 tation Fault

 

 Other tables are exported just fine.  The topicrels table looks like
 this:

 CREATE TABLE TOPICRELS (
   FROMTIDVARCHAR2 (5)  NOT NULL,
   TRTYPE VARCHAR2 (2)  NOT NULL,
   TOTID  VARCHAR2 (5)  NOT NULL,
   SEQNUMBER (4)DEFAULT 0,
   UNCERTAIN  CHAR (1))
TABLESPACE USERS NOLOGGING
PCTFREE 1  PCTUSED 99  INITRANS 1  MAXTRANS 255 STORAGE (
INITIAL 77725696   NEXT 4571136   PCTINCREASE 1   MINEXTENTS 1
MAXEXTENTS 121   FREELISTS 1 FREELIST GROUPS 1 ) CACHE;

 It has 3 indices:

 CREATE INDEX TRFROMTOTYPE ON
   TOPICRELS(FROMTID, TOTID, TRTYPE)
   TABLESPACE INDX PCTFREE 1  STORAGE(INITIAL 151257088 NEXT 6160384
 PCTINCREASE 0 )
 ;

 CREATE INDEX TRFROMTYPESEQTOUNC ON
   TOPICRELS(FROMTID, TRTYPE, SEQ, TOTID, UNCERTAIN)
   TABLESPACE INDX PCTFREE 1  STORAGE(INITIAL 108134400 NEXT 6160384
 PCTINCREASE 0 )
 ;

 CREATE INDEX TRTOTYPEFROM ON
   TOPICRELS(TOTID, TRTYPE, FROMTID)
   TABLESPACE INDX PCTFREE 1  STORAGE(INITIAL 138936320 NEXT 6160384
 PCTINCREASE 0 )
 ;


 System info:

 oracle environment:

 NLS_LANG=American_America.US7ASCII
 ORACLE_BASE=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle
 ORACLE_DOC=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/doc
 ORACLE_HOME=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6
 ORACLE_SID=ALEG

ORA_NLS33=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/ocommon/nls/admin/d
 ata

PATH=/usr/local/oracle/app/oracle/product/8.1.6/bin:/etc:/usr/ccs/bin:/u
 sr/local/

bin:/usr/java/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/etc:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/et
 c:/usr/dt
 /bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/openwin/bin:/usr/local/bin:.

 $ uname -a
 SunOS aleg 5.8 Generic_111459-01 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000
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Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Jared Still

On Monday 04 June 2001 16:35, Khedr, Waleed wrote:
 Who is Kevin Loney?

http://www.kevinloney.com

Jared
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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Database writer





you can download a free fully functional trial version of Spotlight on Oracle from the Quest Website at http://www.quest.com/spotlight_oracle/

there is a link to 'download trial' on the left hand side. You can click on the screenshot to get a full size image... but it will tell you everything you need to know about your instance... and what init.ora parameters you can change to improve it. 

Nick


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Kevin,


What size is your redo log buffer?


Jared


On Monday 04 June 2001 08:55, Kevin Kostyszyn wrote:
 Hi all,
  I added db writer processes last week to try and improve performance of
 one of my 8.1.7 db's on NT. Does anyone know if there is a way to see if
 Oracle actually started the additional db writer processes? I added
 db_writer_processes to the init file, the instance started so I am assuming
 that the db writer processes are working. But we all know what happens
 when we assume something. Any ideas would be appreciated.

 Sincerely,
 Kevin Kostyszyn
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Re: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Sathish Balas

Oracle8/8i DBA Handbook Author
visit www.kevinloney.com
He is pretty good in Oracle .
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Who is Kevin Loney?

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Can't let that happen!  If that happened, there would be Tusc DB 1.0 and all
us oracle guru's will be useless against that product.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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And tusc has a partnership w/ quest. Weird. tusc does a lot of their
recruiting at Barnes and Noble. I think Steve Adams is on the hit list.


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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:36:50 -0800

and Steven Feuerstein works for Quest


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I just had a meeting with the TUSC organization in Atlanta GA. and Mike
Ault now works for TUSC also.
Ron Rogers
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I guess I am the last to discover this, but Kevin now works for TUSC.


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RE: Database writer

2001-06-04 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)

Nick,

Does spotlight support an Oracle server running on NT?

The requirements page says:

Server
Oracle versions from 7.3.3 and above 
Solaris (2.5, 2.6, 2.7) 
HP-UX (10.20, 11.00/32 bit, 11.00/64 bit) 
AIX (4.2, 4.3) 
Digital (v4.0d, v4.0f)   

which seems to me to say the Oracle server must be running on Unix and not
NT.

but then the PDF data sheet says 


Spotlight requires Windows 95/98/2000/NT and a SQL*Net connection to any
Oracle server (7.3.3 or greater)


Which is correct?

Thanks,
Bruce Reardon
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you can download a free fully functional trial version of Spotlight on
Oracle from the Quest Website at http://www.quest.com/spotlight_oracle/
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you need to know about your instance... and what init.ora parameters you can
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Re: OT RE: TUSC and Kevin Loney

2001-06-04 Thread Rachel Carmichael

the heck you say!  Good chocolate or none at all... Callebrut



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And Rachel works for Godiva.

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RE: ora-600

2001-06-04 Thread Rachel Carmichael

ora-600 is a severe error and the codes in parens are debugging codes for 
Oracle Support

CALL SUPPORT when you get an ora-600 and ora-7445


From: Kevin Kostyszyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 14:08:06 -0800

Well, is the answer for all ORA 600's, I have noticed there are different
ones.  One of my fellow employees just called me and told me that the
production instance at a clients site just went down with ORA 600.  He said
that it said in paren's, (with complications).  Now what in the good lords
name does that mean?  I looked on Metasuck and I haven't seen anything.  Is
the only answer to call support, or just hammer away until he figures it
out?  Anyone seen this before. And yes I know, it 8.1.5 on NT..
Kev

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Hi,
It generally means Contat Oracle Support.

You may try to have your alert log file scanned at
http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html.  Set
Search Depth to 0.

Very nice little tool from Unal Bilisim. I used it a few times with good
results.

HTH

Regards,

- Kirti Deshpande
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  Hi Friends
 
  What does it mean??
 
  ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [17112], [33054472]
 
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