RE: DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT issue

2002-07-08 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi guys,

Anyone that work in ASIA time please help me : )

Sinardy

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Hi guys,

I try to create standby database and my datafile are all over my hard disk, what 
should I do to my DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT to let my standby database know this issue ?

example

/prod_data1/system01.dbf
/prod_data2/user01.dbf
/prod_data3/rbs01.dbf

my standby datafile

/standby_data1/system01.dbf
/standby_data1/user01.dbf
/standby_data2/rbs01.dbf


I try this idiot way but there are no such parameters in v$parameter  :+)

DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT1 = (/prod_data1, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT2 = (/prod_data2, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT3 = (/prod_data3, /standby_data2)


Thanks so much.

Oh by the way I am using 8i


Sinardy

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RE: DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT issue

2002-07-08 Thread Jack van Zanen

Hi,


I don't know the syntax you are looking for but you could explicitly rename
every file in your RMAN script (set newname for datafile command)


Jack


   

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Hi guys,

Anyone that work in ASIA time please help me : )

Sinardy

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Hi guys,

I try to create standby database and my datafile are all over my hard disk,
what should I do to my DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT to let my standby database know
this issue ?

example

/prod_data1/system01.dbf
/prod_data2/user01.dbf
/prod_data3/rbs01.dbf

my standby datafile

/standby_data1/system01.dbf
/standby_data1/user01.dbf
/standby_data2/rbs01.dbf


I try this idiot way but there are no such parameters in v$parameter  :+)

DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT1 = (/prod_data1, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT2 = (/prod_data2, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT3 = (/prod_data3, /standby_data2)


Thanks so much.

Oh by the way I am using 8i


Sinardy

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RE: Hints being ignored

2002-07-08 Thread rabbit

I'm on 8.1.6 and the other day I was trying to use a hint on the
GL_INTERFACE table from Oracle Financials (i know OF is rule based)that I
had copied to another database instance and I couldnt get a hint to work.
And i know that Hint is not SQL supported and therefore the syntax has to
be 100% correct. I was busy so I jut deleted records I didnt need but I
will go back and try again later. On the whole though using 8.1.6 Ive
remember situations where hints have not taken.


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RE: DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT issue

2002-07-08 Thread Sinardy Xing

Hi,

I am not using RMAN, This is what I try to do.

I try to create standby database manually

1. Copy all datafiles to new location (so call standby location)
2. create initstandby.ora (almost the same with the production)
2.a. DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT = (production path, standby path) is one of them
2.b. let oracle know where is your initstandby.ora
3. alter database create standby controlfile as 'standbycontrol.ctl';
3. startup nomount pfile = where is your initstandby.ora
4. alter database mount standby database;
5. recover standby database;  - this will apply daily archived log, make sure 
your standby up to date.
6. shutdown; - never open this database 

The problem is I don't know how to let Oracle know that my production datafile paths 
are more than one.
I think Oracle 9i can do that with DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT (para1, para2, para3, para4).

I Don't think is very funny if I have to rename all my production data files before I 
create standby control file. :(


Thanks

Sinardy



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Hi,


I don't know the syntax you are looking for but you could explicitly rename
every file in your RMAN script (set newname for datafile command)


Jack


   

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Anyone that work in ASIA time please help me : )

Sinardy

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Hi guys,

I try to create standby database and my datafile are all over my hard disk,
what should I do to my DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT to let my standby database know
this issue ?

example

/prod_data1/system01.dbf
/prod_data2/user01.dbf
/prod_data3/rbs01.dbf

my standby datafile

/standby_data1/system01.dbf
/standby_data1/user01.dbf
/standby_data2/rbs01.dbf


I try this idiot way but there are no such parameters in v$parameter  :+)

DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT1 = (/prod_data1, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT2 = (/prod_data2, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT3 = (/prod_data3, /standby_data2)


Thanks so much.

Oh by the way I am using 8i


Sinardy

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Comparison between Oracle 8 and Oracle 9

2002-07-08 Thread emre . hancioglu

Hi everybody,
Currently we are using Oracle 8.1.7 in our company and for a new datawarehouse project, a consultant company has suggested us to use Oracle 9. The have claimed that applications run much faster and it's more reliable etc... Of course I was not convinced. Could you please tell me, where I can get some documents about the comparison of these two databases? Thank you for your help.

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AW: JDBC

2002-07-08 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi Antje

Eventhough I never migrated Sybase (or SQL Server) code (JDBC/Java) to
Oracle, 
maybe that helps anyway:

In Transact SQL, you can actually return data from an anonymous block, 
that's correct. An equivalent to do this in PL/SQL might be the use of 
OUT parameters within stored procedures. That means that you just have 
to write wrappers for your T-SQL blocks (put them into PL/SQL stored procs).
Done that, you can communicate from Java with the procedure through the OUT 
parameter, once you registered the proc with it's OUT parameters within the 
Java context. After binding the parameter to Java variables, the data will 
be transferred to those variables (when the proc is executed) for your
further 
use within the Java context. Nothing new, actually. A problem might be the 
syntactical difference between T-SQL and PL/SQL, eventhough Oracle is able 
to handle more of the syntax you encounter in T-SQL like CASE or ANSI SQL
joins.

Hope that helps a little bit. If not, pipe it to /dev/null ;)

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Hi, gurus,
collegues of mine told me, that Sybase can return information from anonymous
blocks.
When I do not want to use SQLJ, but only JDBC what is the best way to
migrate the Sybase code to Oracle.
Any tips appreciated,
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Oracle 9.2 and Solaris 9

2002-07-08 Thread Carlo Antoniotti


Dear DBAs,

anybody out there have experience/knowledge about 
the compatibility between Oracle 9.2 and Solaris 9 ?
On the Metalink site the server certification matrix
say projected and I'm confident that this will turn
into Certified quite soon, but the direct experience
it's a different matter as usual.

I know that the two products are both really new, but I'm 
now in a lucky condition, with 2 brand new machines
to install from scratch (fire280) and some time
for the migration from 8.1.7, no critical apps dependent
on the Oracle version, so I'm thinking to configure
the two machines with the latest versions available,
both OS and Oracle.
On the other hand we need Oracle 9i for the Spatial
option that seems to be really improved on 9i.

Thanks for any info,


Carlo 

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Dynamically preventing use of index

2002-07-08 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: Dynamically preventing use of index





Hi, 
I have a table with two column, each having non-unique index. The following select is used to fetch records. The variables ‘var1’ and ‘var2’ are provided for execution. Only one of the two variables is provided. The requirement is to use the index on that column only for which the value is provided and avoid use of the other column index. Is this possible in a select stmt in RBO?

Oracle uses both the indexes by default, irrespective of the values provided.


Select col1, col2 
from am49
where col1 = var1 
or col2 = var2;


The above query should use the index on col1 only when var1 is provided and vice versa.


On Oracle 8.1.7 (RBO)


rgds
amar
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RE: DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT issue

2002-07-08 Thread John . Hallas

If you have a proper OFA setup then the problem is not to big.
The syntax is 
db_file_name_convert=('/vobs/oracle/dbs','/fs2/oracle/stdby')
log_file_name_convert=('/vobs/oracle/dbs','/fs2/oracle/stdby')

where you are changing files that are in /vobs/oracle/dbs on prod to
/fs2/oracle/stdby/ on for the standby.

 Oracle suggest that should cover most of your files and the other can be
renamed using alter database rename file syntax

HTH

John
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Hi,

I am not using RMAN, This is what I try to do.

I try to create standby database manually

1. Copy all datafiles to new location (so call standby location)
2. create initstandby.ora (almost the same with the production)
2.a. DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT = (production path, standby path) is one of them
2.b. let oracle know where is your initstandby.ora
3. alter database create standby controlfile as 'standbycontrol.ctl';
3. startup nomount pfile = where is your initstandby.ora
4. alter database mount standby database;
5. recover standby database;  - this will apply daily archived log,
make sure your standby up to date.
6. shutdown; - never open this database 

The problem is I don't know how to let Oracle know that my production
datafile paths are more than one.
I think Oracle 9i can do that with DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT (para1, para2,
para3, para4).

I Don't think is very funny if I have to rename all my production data files
before I create standby control file. :(


Thanks

Sinardy



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Hi,


I don't know the syntax you are looking for but you could explicitly rename
every file in your RMAN script (set newname for datafile command)


Jack


 

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Hi guys,

Anyone that work in ASIA time please help me : )

Sinardy

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Hi guys,

I try to create standby database and my datafile are all over my hard disk,
what should I do to my DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT to let my standby database know
this issue ?

example

/prod_data1/system01.dbf
/prod_data2/user01.dbf
/prod_data3/rbs01.dbf

my standby datafile

/standby_data1/system01.dbf
/standby_data1/user01.dbf
/standby_data2/rbs01.dbf


I try this idiot way but there are no such parameters in v$parameter  :+)

DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT1 = (/prod_data1, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT2 = (/prod_data2, /standby_data1)
DB_FILE_NAME_CONVERT3 = (/prod_data3, /standby_data2)


Thanks so much.

Oh by the way I am using 8i


Sinardy

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How to administer OAS at server without using Browser ?

2002-07-08 Thread arul . kumar

Hi DBAs,

I would like to know the ways we can manage OAS ( ver. 4.0.8 ) without using
Browser. For example, how do we create DADs without using browser admin
utility. Is there any Oracle utility available to use at OS prompt?
Possible ?

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copy command

2002-07-08 Thread Sackwitz, Antje

Notice taht there are limits to the copy command

COPY

The COPY command is not being enhanced to handle datatypes or features
introduced with, or after Oracle8. The COPY command is likely to be made
obsolete in a future release.

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Re: Exporting stats for a production server to a dev/test server

2002-07-08 Thread Cherie_Machler


Jack,

Were your old statistics generated with the ANALYZE command?   If yes, were
you able to export ALL of the old statistics with the export option of
DBMS_STATS before you actually analyzed with DBMS_STATS for the first time?
If yes, after exporting them, did you delete the old statistics using the
delete option of ANALYZE command before gathering new statistics using
DBMS_STATS?

Thanks,

Cherie Machler
Oracle DBA
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We just used it with great success to test our new
analyze strategy. You can label each set of stats, and
quickly switch between different analyze levels. Store
your old stats first and you can always fall back if
necessary.


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converting fmt to fmb

2002-07-08 Thread Amar Kumar Padhi
Title: converting fmt to fmb





Hi,


may be a bit off topic.


How can I convert my forms 6i FMT files to FMB files, from command line. 


In forms 4.5 this was feasible by using the following command, but I am unable to locate the command line option for Forms 6i.

f45gen32 module=sync userid=scott/tiger batch=YES parse=YES 




rgds
amar
http://amzone.netfirms.com





RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

Everyone:

   This is great!!  Please pass the word on about IOUG-Live!  Any help with
marketing this extremely valuable event is greatly appreciated.  Besides the
one on one events, you can experience what others have called DBA Frenzy.
Lots of people with varied opinions but lots of expertise.


Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
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Subject:RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

May I also add that you can also get to meet some of the luminaries in this
list at IOUG (Gaja, Tim, Cary, Rachel are regulars) and have a lot of
one-on-one as well as panel discussions that take up real-life issues (as
opposed to marketing fluff).
 
John Kanagaraj

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Add to that the cost of getting there (Orlando FL for 2003), 
transportation to/from the airport
hotel (4-6 nights at around $200/night depending on what hotel you stay at)
some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events include enough
food for dinner)
 
That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.  IMHO, this is the
best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't speak for developers.)
Both years I've gone, I was frustrated because there were more sessions that
I wanted to attend that I could since they were at the same time.  This
year, there were no sessions that I attended that I didn't learn something
from.  Many of the sessions generated a list of to do as soon as I get back
to the office.  
 
Hope to see you there.
 
Stephen

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/05/02 10:13AM 
Believe me.  It is not free.  Attendee fees are around $ 1,200.00 but that
is an estimate.

Thank You

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Thanks! I should have mentioned I have checked the IOUG page, but can not
find
the actual cost of attending. Or is it FREE to IOUG members, and therefore,
I
need to have my company pay for memberships for a couple of people to
attend?

thanks!
Angel Tirone (an oracle newbie)


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Re: C++ classes

2002-07-08 Thread Peter Gram

Waleed

In version 9i there is very neat C++ classes for OCI to be able  to 
access Oracle. Have a look at Oracle C++ Call Interface Programmer's 
Guide ( 
http://otn.oracle.com/docs/products/oracle9i/doc_library/901_doc/appdev.901/a89860/toc.htm
 
).

If you

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   Is there any reliable C++ class library to access
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RE: converting fmt to fmb

2002-07-08 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: converting fmt to fmb



Same way, just the executable name has changed.

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 9:48 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  converting fmt to fmb
  Hi, 
  may be a bit off topic. 
  How can I convert my forms 6i FMT files to FMB 
  files, from command line. 
  In forms 4.5 this was feasible by using the 
  following command, but I am unable to locate the command line option for Forms 
  6i.
  f45gen32 module=sync userid=scott/tiger 
  batch=YES parse=YES 
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Re: Copy

2002-07-08 Thread Ramon E. Estevez



Yechiel,

No, it is available at 8.1.7 also, it worked through a 
dblink. I thought it will do it thru the local tnsnames.

tks

Ramon


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Yechiel 
  Adar 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:33 AM
  Subject: Re: Copy
  
  I checked the docs for 8.1.6 and 
  9.0.1.
  I think that the copy command is new in 9i.
  make sure that you are logged on to 9i sqlplus when you 
  issue this command.
  
  Yechiel AdarMehish
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Ramon E. Estevez 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 10:08 
PM
Subject: Copy

Hi list,

I am trying to copy one table from a DB 9.0.1 on Linux RH 
to a DB 8.1.7 on NT using this statement

COPY FROM RAMON@ORLNX TO 
RAMON@IBOR CREATE DATBAL_TMP USING SELECT * 
FROM DATOS_BALANCES;

ERROR at line 1:ORA-00900: invalid SQL 
statement

Do I need a DBLINK, if yes, is it obligatory 
?

TIA,


Ramon E. Estevez[EMAIL PROTECTED]809-565-3121


Re: Exporting stats for a production server to a dev/test server

2002-07-08 Thread Jack Silvey

Cherie,

Great name.

Our initial stats were generated with the ANALYZE
command. We did export all the stats with the
dbms_stats - one parameter of the GATHER_TABLE_STATS
procedure is CASCADE, which picks up the index and
column stats too. Please test first on your own system
to make sure this is true for your version and setup.

We did not delete the stats before doing the new, what
we did was this:

1) export the old stats
2) analyze using a new sample, cascade, with histos
3) export the new stats (with a new label)
4) test, reimport the old and new stats as necessary

Do this quick test to show yourself what it can do:

a) create table tester.statstest as select * from
dba_tables;
b) create index tester.statstestidx on
statstest(table_name);
c) analyze table tester.statstest estimate statistics
sample 1 percent for table for all indexes for all
columns size 254;
d) create the stats holding table in the tester schema
using
DBMS_STATS.CREATE_STAT_TABLE('tester','stats','tsuser01')
e) export the stats using
DBMS_STATS.EXPORT_TABLE_STATS('tester','statstest',null,'stats','1pcttest',true,null);
f) select * from tester.stats to see what is stored
g) analyze table tester.statstest delete statistics;
h) import the stats using
DBMS_STATS.IMPORT_TABLE_STATS('tester','statstest',null,'stats','1pcttest',true,null);
i) select * from dba_tables, dba_indexes,
dba_tab_histograms to see what was imported

You can store multiple versions of stats for the same
table with different lables ('1pctest' in the example)
but if you try to store stats with the same label it
will overwrite.

We did have some data dictionary locking issues trying
to import multiple partitions of the same table at the
same time, but our db has suspect dd issues anyway, so
this might just be a feature of our system.

hth,

Jack

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jack,
 
 Were your old statistics generated with the ANALYZE
 command?   If yes, were
 you able to export ALL of the old statistics with
 the export option of
 DBMS_STATS before you actually analyzed with
 DBMS_STATS for the first time?
 If yes, after exporting them, did you delete the old
 statistics using the
 delete option of ANALYZE command before gathering
 new statistics using
 DBMS_STATS?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cherie Machler
 Oracle DBA
 Gelco Information Network
 
 
 
 

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 We just used it with great success to test our new
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 and
 quickly switch between different analyze levels.
 Store
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Re: Copy

2002-07-08 Thread Ramon E. Estevez

Rachel, Joe, Anjo and for all that reply,

The only way it worked for me was using a dblink.

As always tks for your comentaries !!!

Tks

Ramon

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Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 8:23 AM


 copy has been around for a lng time
 from the 8.1.7 docs
 
 COPY {FROM database | TO database | FROM database TO database}
 {APPEND|CREATE|INSERT|REPLACE} destination_table
 [(column, column, column, ...)] USING query
 
 and the example
 
 SQL COPY FROM SCOTT/TIGER@HQ -
  CREATE SALESMEN (EMPNO,SALESMAN) -
  USING SELECT EMPNO, ENAME FROM EMP -
  WHERE JOB='SALESMAN'
 
 if you are copying within the same database you can leave out the
 from/to clause. If you are logged onto one of the two databases, you
 can leave out the from or to clause
 
 
 --- Yechiel Adar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I checked the docs for 8.1.6 and 9.0.1.
  I think that the copy command is new in 9i.
  make sure that you are logged on to 9i sqlplus when you issue this
  command.
  
  Yechiel Adar
  Mehish
- Original Message - 
From: Ramon E. Estevez 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 10:08 PM
Subject: Copy
  
  
Hi list,
 
I am trying to copy one table from a DB 9.0.1 on Linux RH to a DB
  8.1.7 on NT using this statement
 
COPY FROM RAMON@ORLNX TO RAMON@IBOR CREATE DATBAL_TMP USING SELECT
  * FROM DATOS_BALANCES;
 
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00900: invalid SQL statement
 
Do I need a DBLINK, if yes, is it obligatory ?
 
TIA,
 
 
Ramon E. Estevez
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
809-565-3121
  
 
 
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Re: insert nologging parallel/noparallel and archiving - thanks

2002-07-08 Thread Gurelei

Just wanted to thank Jack, Connor and Jared for their
help!!

Gene
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RE: converting fmt to fmb

2002-07-08 Thread Amjad
Title: converting fmt to fmb



Hi 
Amar,

use 
the following to convert ur files

ifcmp60 along with 
the various parameters that u want to pass

regards,
Ams.
www.medicomsoft.com


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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amar Kumar PadhiSent: 
  Monday, July 08, 2002 5:48 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: converting fmt to fmb
  Hi, 
  may be a bit off topic. 
  How can I convert my forms 6i FMT files to FMB 
  files, from command line. 
  In forms 4.5 this was feasible by using the 
  following command, but I am unable to locate the command line option for Forms 
  6i.
  f45gen32 module=sync userid=scott/tiger 
  batch=YES parse=YES 
  rgds amar http://amzone.netfirms.com 



RE: Copy

2002-07-08 Thread Hand, Michael T

Also, as the example points out, make sure you use the hyphen at the end of
line if your command spans more than 1 line.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


copy has been around for a lng time
from the 8.1.7 docs

COPY {FROM database | TO database | FROM database TO database}
{APPEND|CREATE|INSERT|REPLACE} destination_table
[(column, column, column, ...)] USING query

and the example

SQL COPY FROM SCOTT/TIGER@HQ -
 CREATE SALESMEN (EMPNO,SALESMAN) -
 USING SELECT EMPNO, ENAME FROM EMP -
 WHERE JOB='SALESMAN'
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Re:How to learn XML ?

2002-07-08 Thread dgoulet

TRY: http://www.w3schools.com/xml/

Dick Goulet

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Hi friends :


How can i do for learn XML ?

Does anyone know some good site that teaches it for us ?

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RE: JDBC

2002-07-08 Thread Ji, Richard

Maybe I misunderstood what you guys are talking about.
And sorry if that's the case.

But you can call anonymous block and return data from Oracle
to Java:

CallableStatement stmt = conn.prepareCall(
  begin  +
open ? for select ename from emp; +
  end;);
stmt.registerOutParameter(1,OracleTypes.CURSOR);
stmt.execute();

Richard

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Hi Antje

Eventhough I never migrated Sybase (or SQL Server) code (JDBC/Java) to
Oracle, 
maybe that helps anyway:

In Transact SQL, you can actually return data from an anonymous block, 
that's correct. An equivalent to do this in PL/SQL might be the use of 
OUT parameters within stored procedures. That means that you just have 
to write wrappers for your T-SQL blocks (put them into PL/SQL stored procs).
Done that, you can communicate from Java with the procedure through the OUT 
parameter, once you registered the proc with it's OUT parameters within the 
Java context. After binding the parameter to Java variables, the data will 
be transferred to those variables (when the proc is executed) for your
further 
use within the Java context. Nothing new, actually. A problem might be the 
syntactical difference between T-SQL and PL/SQL, eventhough Oracle is able 
to handle more of the syntax you encounter in T-SQL like CASE or ANSI SQL
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Re:Adding Control files

2002-07-08 Thread dgoulet

Yechiel,

Whether you have 1, 2, or a dozen controlfiles is a DBA's call, not someone
who thinks he knows his stuff. I run my database with 2 control files, on
different spindles of course and have no problems of contention there.  Now you
may be seeing contention with datafiles, redo log files, etc that is
masquerading as controlfile contention.  This can be particularly so if your
redo logs are Oracle's default of 10K.  Since every time a redo switch occurs
also requires a checkpoint.  Therefore try increasing the size of your redo log
files.  My smallest is 100MB and the largest is .5GB.

Dick Goulet

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Hello All

I got a request to add at least 2 more control files to the database.
Currently we are having 2 control files.

I read the docs (not too much, it is 20:00 now) and did not see it.

1) How do you add a control file?
Alter system backup control file and then add it to Init parms?

2) I was told that having 4 control files solves some contention.
Anybody encountered this?

Oracle 8.1.6.3.4 on NT4 SP6 server.

Yechiel Adar
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Re: insert nologging parallel/noparallel and archiving - thanks

2002-07-08 Thread Jack Silvey

Gene,

Glad to help. 

A word of caution, do consider the recovery aspects of
nologging carefully before use. A backup immediately
after the move might be prudent, or keeping the old
data around as a fallback.

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When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread Smith, Ron L.

If there a way in 7.3.4 to tell the last time analyze was run on an index?

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Increase size of REDO log

2002-07-08 Thread Nguyen, David M

How do I increase size of redo logs and how do I create additional redo
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AW: JDBC

2002-07-08 Thread Stefan Jahnke

Hi Richard

You can do that. But I think it is recommandable to wrap up the PL/SQL and
put it into packages. This way, your code is much better organized than
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Maybe I misunderstood what you guys are talking about.
And sorry if that's the case.

But you can call anonymous block and return data from Oracle
to Java:

CallableStatement stmt = conn.prepareCall(
  begin  +
open ? for select ename from emp; +
  end;);
stmt.registerOutParameter(1,OracleTypes.CURSOR);
stmt.execute();

Richard

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Hi Antje

Eventhough I never migrated Sybase (or SQL Server) code (JDBC/Java) to
Oracle, 
maybe that helps anyway:

In Transact SQL, you can actually return data from an anonymous block, 
that's correct. An equivalent to do this in PL/SQL might be the use of 
OUT parameters within stored procedures. That means that you just have 
to write wrappers for your T-SQL blocks (put them into PL/SQL stored procs).
Done that, you can communicate from Java with the procedure through the OUT 
parameter, once you registered the proc with it's OUT parameters within the 
Java context. After binding the parameter to Java variables, the data will 
be transferred to those variables (when the proc is executed) for your
further 
use within the Java context. Nothing new, actually. A problem might be the 
syntactical difference between T-SQL and PL/SQL, eventhough Oracle is able 
to handle more of the syntax you encounter in T-SQL like CASE or ANSI SQL
joins.

Hope that helps a little bit. If not, pipe it to /dev/null ;)

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Hi, gurus,
collegues of mine told me, that Sybase can return information from anonymous
blocks.
When I do not want to use SQLJ, but only JDBC what is the best way to
migrate the Sybase code to Oracle.
Any tips appreciated,
Regards,
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download leads to sales call

2002-07-08 Thread Jonathan Gennick

Last week I downloaded Oracle9i for Linux from Technet. Today I just
got a call from an Oracle salesperson wanting to know what I was doing
with it. I suppose it's not unreasonable for them to call and ask what
I'm doing with their software, but is it normal procedure? I can't
remember whether this happened last time I did a Technet download. 

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Re: HTTP Listener configuration assistant

2002-07-08 Thread Jonathan Gennick

On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 03:28:19 -0800, Conner McDonald wrote:
I'll happily stand corrected but I didn't think the
http component actually had its own assistant.  Under
my ORACLE_HOME/bin (92) I can only see

You may well be correct, though the installer did seem to indicate
that it was going to run some sort of http configuration assistant
after creating the database and running the Oracle Net Config
Assistant. No matter. I got the HTTP listener going by editing the
Apache config files. Fortunately, the files contain plenty of comments
so I was able to figure out what settings to change. 

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RE: JDBC

2002-07-08 Thread Ji, Richard

Stefan,

Agreed.  I am merely pointing out one can call anonymous block.
Packages is the way to do it.

Richard

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Hi Richard

You can do that. But I think it is recommandable to wrap up the PL/SQL and
put it into packages. This way, your code is much better organized than
having anonymous blocks throughout your Java code.

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Maybe I misunderstood what you guys are talking about.
And sorry if that's the case.

But you can call anonymous block and return data from Oracle
to Java:

CallableStatement stmt = conn.prepareCall(
  begin  +
open ? for select ename from emp; +
  end;);
stmt.registerOutParameter(1,OracleTypes.CURSOR);
stmt.execute();

Richard

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Hi Antje

Eventhough I never migrated Sybase (or SQL Server) code (JDBC/Java) to
Oracle, 
maybe that helps anyway:

In Transact SQL, you can actually return data from an anonymous block, 
that's correct. An equivalent to do this in PL/SQL might be the use of 
OUT parameters within stored procedures. That means that you just have 
to write wrappers for your T-SQL blocks (put them into PL/SQL stored procs).
Done that, you can communicate from Java with the procedure through the OUT 
parameter, once you registered the proc with it's OUT parameters within the 
Java context. After binding the parameter to Java variables, the data will 
be transferred to those variables (when the proc is executed) for your
further 
use within the Java context. Nothing new, actually. A problem might be the 
syntactical difference between T-SQL and PL/SQL, eventhough Oracle is able 
to handle more of the syntax you encounter in T-SQL like CASE or ANSI SQL
joins.

Hope that helps a little bit. If not, pipe it to /dev/null ;)

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Hi, gurus,
collegues of mine told me, that Sybase can return information from anonymous
blocks.
When I do not want to use SQLJ, but only JDBC what is the best way to
migrate the Sybase code to Oracle.
Any tips appreciated,
Regards,
Antje Sackwitz


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Re: Increase size of REDO log

2002-07-08 Thread Stephane Faroult

Nguyen, David M wrote:
 
 How do I increase size of redo logs and how do I create additional redo
 logs?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread mitchell


Hi all

I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
table size is still the same.

I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.

any idea.

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RE: When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread arul . kumar

Hi Smith,

check LAST_ANALYZED column of DBA_INDEXES or DBA_TABLES

I believe it shouldb be there in ver. 7.3.

HTH

Arul.

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Re: download leads to sales call

2002-07-08 Thread Rachel Carmichael

This is new. I downloaded it (W2K version) several weeks ago and didn't
get a call.

I've never gotten a sales call when I've downloaded software from
technet.


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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread mitchell

Sorry :  table is 8 million rows and I deleted 5 million rows.


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 Hi all

 I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
 exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
 table size is still the same.

 I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause
for
 both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.

 any idea.

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Re: When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread BigP

Looks into last_analysed column of user_indexes .

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RE: download leads to sales call

2002-07-08 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Hey Jonathan,

I remember getting a call a long time ago.  I basically told them I was a
DBA and just wanted to mess around and learn the new features, etc. of
Oracle.  I guess they tagged me as such and have never called since.  On
the other hand, I guess if you said it was for project X, then they would be
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remember whether this happened last time I did a Technet download. 

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Setting db_block_size with installer

2002-07-08 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

I am trying to install Oracle 9.2 on Solaris using dbca (Database
Configuration Assistant) and didn't see a handy box to set the
db_block_size. I just edited the initialization parameter, but when dbca
started installing the database, it returned the errors:
   ORA-01503 Create controlfile failed
   ORA-00058 DB_BLOCK_SIZE must be 4096 to mount this database, not 8182

This made me think that since dbca copies the files rather than creates
them, that it may not be possible to use other than a 4k block size.
   But on the other hand, I wanted to use dbca to ensure that I created the
database like an Oracle 9.2 database, rather than just create it like I
would in Oracle 8i. 
   Has anyone else faced this issue and have any thoughts to share?

Thanks.
Dennis Williams
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RE: When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Nope, not in 7.3.4.  Look in DBA_TAB_COLUMNS.  It should have a last_analyzed column 
but I am not sure if this is specifically for the indexes last analyzed date.

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Hi Smith,

check LAST_ANALYZED column of DBA_INDEXES or DBA_TABLES

I believe it shouldb be there in ver. 7.3.

HTH

Arul.

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Re: download leads to sales call

2002-07-08 Thread Jared . Still

Hard to say.  Did the caller give any clues?

Did it sound like a We're curious how you're using our software? kind of
question or a When will you be sending us a check? kind of question?

Jared

PS.  Wow, 3 question marks in one sentence!





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RE: When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread Nicoll, Iain (Calanais)

Not there on 7.3.4.4.  It seems that the only clue you get is in
dba_tab_columns last_analyzed and that won't tell you specifically when an
index was last analyzed.

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Hi Smith,

check LAST_ANALYZED column of DBA_INDEXES or DBA_TABLES

I believe it shouldb be there in ver. 7.3.

HTH

Arul.

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RE: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread Ji, Richard

500 mill?  How did you do your export?  Try compress=n

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Hi all

I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
table size is still the same.

I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.

any idea.

Mitchell





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otn downloaded software not supported at metalink

2002-07-08 Thread Ray Stell


I stated in a tar last week that my installation source was cpio disk
images downloaded from otn.  The metalink analyst surprised me with:
 
Because Oracle Support (direct) does not provide support for downloaded
copies (see the license agreement on OTN) you must use the online
support given by OTN per the license agreement.

What, otn is the unloved stepchild, or is this a version of
good cop, bad cop.

Do you know what license agreeement they are talking about?
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RE: download leads to sales call

2002-07-08 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Uncle Larry is watching you!!  Be afraid, be very afraid.

Dave

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Hey Jonathan,

I remember getting a call a long time ago.  I basically told them I was a
DBA and just wanted to mess around and learn the new features, etc. of
Oracle.  I guess they tagged me as such and have never called since.  On
the other hand, I guess if you said it was for project X, then they would be
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Re: How to learn XML ?

2002-07-08 Thread Jared . Still

Since you're on an Oracle list, I would recommend 
'Building Oracle Applications with XML by Steve Muench.

Great book, available at www.ora.com

Jared





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Hi friends :


How can i do for learn XML ?

Does anyone know some good site that teaches it for us ?

Regards 

Eriovaldo


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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread Stephane Faroult

mitchell wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
 exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
 table size is still the same.
 
 I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
 both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.
 
 any idea.
 
 Mitchell
 

exp and imp do not resize. Wht is allocated stays allocated. Check the
manual, ALTER TABLE to see how to deallocate unused storage.
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RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Scott . Shafer

If you have the money...

Scott Shafer
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 I NEVER get to see every presentation I want to see there. For my
 money, IOUG is the BEST conference around and more than worth the money
 
 Rachel
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  transportation to/from the airport
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  some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events include
  enough food for dinner)
   
  That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.  IMHO, this is
  the best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't speak for
  developers.)  Both years I've gone, I was frustrated because there
  were
  more sessions that I wanted to attend that I could since they were at
  the same time.  This year, there were no sessions that I attended
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  didn't learn something from.  Many of the sessions generated a list
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  to do as soon as I get back to the office.  
   
  Hope to see you there.
   
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Re: Increase size of REDO log

2002-07-08 Thread Ramon E. Estevez

First,

Check for the one that is not the current one.

Select * from V$log;

ALTER DATABASE DROP LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log';

delete the file manually

ALTER DATABASE ADD LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log' size 30M;

Change your size to your desire one.

For the other ones do the same.

To change the active one.

ALTER SYSTEM SWITCH LOGFILE;

hth

Ramon



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RE: When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: RE: When was analyze run last?






Ron,


Others have mentions the LAST_ANALYZED column of DBA_INDEXES or DBA_TABLES. Sorry but no such columns in 7.3.4.


You could look at the LAST_ANALYZED column of DBA_TAB_COLUMNS. It will tell you when the table was last analyzed and you might assume that the index was also analyzed then. 

If you analyze tables with a FOR clause, the indexes may not have been analyzed. Also since it is possible to analyze an index without the tables, the index could have been analyzed more recently than the table. Both are unlikely but still a possibility.

Watch out for DBA_TAB_COLUMNS as it's name isn't exactly right. It also includes views. Below is something I use to check when the tables were last analyzed. You could add in DBA_INDEXES to get your answer.

select a.owner, a.table_name, a.last_analyzed

from dba_tab_columns a, dba_tables b

where b.owner not like 'SY%'

and a.owner = b.owner

and a.table_name = b.table_name

group by a.owner, a.table_name, a.last_analyzed

order by 3 desc;


There is the INDEX_STATS view. Unfortunately, it only holds information on one index at a time.


Jerry Whittle

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If there a way in 7.3.4 to tell the last time analyze was run on an index?


Ron Smith





Re[2]: How to learn XML ?

2002-07-08 Thread dgoulet

Jared,

Agree, very good book, but then so is the site if your interested in some
generic XML stuff.  Like what the heck is this stuff?.

Dick Goulet

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Since you're on an Oracle list, I would recommend 
'Building Oracle Applications with XML by Steve Muench.

Great book, available at www.ora.com

Jared





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RE: Oracle Applications Development Database Refresh

2002-07-08 Thread Scott . Shafer

Jared, we do that here, but just:
take a cold backup of the production db, 
lay it down over the old dev db (via scp or tape), 
and open it renaming with a backup cpontrolfile script.  

Works like a charm, though I'm not sure what applmgr steps are required.

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 Fellow listers,
 
 In addition to the usual SAP system that runs most of our company, we have
 Oracle Apps 10.7 HR.  For some reason the HR folks didn't like the SAP HR
 module, so I have SAP and Oracle Apps.
 
 The problem is a request I have to refresh the Dev database from the 
 Production database.
 
 If you can point me to the correct documentation for this, I'll take a 
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 There's a lot of stuff to wade through in the docs and MetaLink, and I'd 
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RE: When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread John Kanagaraj

Ron,

Iain is right. If you had analyzed with the default 'ANALYZE TABLE' which
would have cascaded into an analyze of the indexes, then you can pick the
date from DBA_TAB_COLUMNS for that table...

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 Not there on 7.3.4.4.  It seems that the only clue you get is in
 dba_tab_columns last_analyzed and that won't tell you 
 specifically when an
 index was last analyzed.
 
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 Hi Smith,
 
 check LAST_ANALYZED column of DBA_INDEXES or DBA_TABLES
 
 I believe it shouldb be there in ver. 7.3.
 
 HTH
 
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RE: When was analyze run last?

2002-07-08 Thread Baker, Barbara

it's in dba_tab_columns and user_tab_columns
(not very covenient, but that's where it is)
Barb


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 HTH
 
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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread paquette stephane

When using delete , the highwater mark does not
change, so the table still use what was allocated. 

export/import also does noty resize the table.

One way to do it, would be to precreate the table with
a smaller size then import the data.



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 table is 8 million rows and I deleted 5
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  Hi all
 
  I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted
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  exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another
 schema. After that, the
  table size is still the same.
 
  I thought table size should be taken much less
 space. the storage clause
 for
  both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.
 
  any idea.
 
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Re: Setting db_block_size with installer

2002-07-08 Thread Jared . Still

Dennis,

Does it really say '8182', or is that a typo?

Jared





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I am trying to install Oracle 9.2 on Solaris using dbca (Database
Configuration Assistant) and didn't see a handy box to set the
db_block_size. I just edited the initialization parameter, but when dbca
started installing the database, it returned the errors:
   ORA-01503 Create controlfile failed
   ORA-00058 DB_BLOCK_SIZE must be 4096 to mount this database, not 8182

This made me think that since dbca copies the files rather than creates
them, that it may not be possible to use other than a 4k block size.
   But on the other hand, I wanted to use dbca to ensure that I created 
the
database like an Oracle 9.2 database, rather than just create it like I
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   Has anyone else faced this issue and have any thoughts to share?

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RE: Increase size of REDO log

2002-07-08 Thread Miller, Jay

You also might need to do an 
alter database checkpoint; 
if you get a particular error when you try to drop the log (don't remember
it offhand, I always recognize it when I see it :).

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First,

Check for the one that is not the current one.

Select * from V$log;

ALTER DATABASE DROP LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log';

delete the file manually

ALTER DATABASE ADD LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log' size 30M;

Change your size to your desire one.

For the other ones do the same.

To change the active one.

ALTER SYSTEM SWITCH LOGFILE;

hth

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RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Fink, Dan

Although it is not cheap to attend IOUG, I agree it is very worthwhile.
If money is an issue consider:
 1) Presenting - your conference fee is waived or reduced (for quick tips)
 2) Volunteering - I volunteered when it was held in Denver and received
$300 off for being a room monitor for a day
 3) Sharing hotel room - I prefer the solitude of a hotel room to
decompress/working on my presentation, but if money is tight, it's not a bad
way to go. Then again, after sharing a 'room' (about the size of a cubicle)
at Gorak Shep, Nepal with 2 other men, anything with indoor plumbing is
luxurious.
 4) Shopping around/staying offsite - I found a significantly better rate on
a room on Expedia for San Diego. Not sure about Dolphin  Swan...

Of course, the best reason to spend the money...
 Put a face with all those anonymous geeks who post smart-@ss RTFM comments
on the list...

Dan Fink

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If you have the money...

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 I NEVER get to see every presentation I want to see there. For my
 money, IOUG is the BEST conference around and more than worth the money
 
 Rachel
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  some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events include
  enough food for dinner)
   
  That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.  IMHO, this is
  the best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't speak for
  developers.)  Both years I've gone, I was frustrated because there
  were
  more sessions that I wanted to attend that I could since they were at
  the same time.  This year, there were no sessions that I attended
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Re: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread mitchell
Title: RE: table size.



Hi Godlwski

Thanks for your reply. 

This is not locally managed tablespace and num_rows are the 
same. Thefollowing  result fromdba_tables. 
This big different is empty_blocks. 

I still confused why the size is the same but with much more 
empty_blocks. 

I think the empty_block means never used. If whole block 
data is deleted, what happed to this column? used but emptied?


Mitchell



1. exported table

TABLE_NAME 
EMPTY_BLOCKS CHAIN_CNT BLOCKS 
AVG_SPACE--  -- -- 
--STATEMENT_LINE 
30 
 
0 
 40401 
421


2. imported table
TABLE_NAME 
EMPTY_BLOCKS CHAIN_CNT BLOCKS 
AVG_SPACE--  -- -- 
--STATEMENT_LINE 
46099 
 
0 
35225 421

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  Mitchell, 
  Is this table in a Locally Managed Tablespace? If so 
  your extents might be the issue. Check blocks and empty blocks, and 
  num_rows in dba_tables. (after an analyze of course)
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Hi all   I have a table with 8 millions rows 
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  much less space. the storage clause for 
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moving Vertias quick io files in oracle

2002-07-08 Thread Kathy Duret

I am trying to move some oracle files that have been quick ioed using Veritas.

I have no problem creating quickio files or growing them but when I try to move them I 
get

SQL /  
alter database rename file '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf' to '/u18/oracle/prod
*   
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01511: error in renaming log/data files 
ORA-01516: nonexistent log file, datafile or tempfile   
'/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'
   

All the lovely manual says regarding moving files is:  trying moving the hot files.


I tried making a new quick io file on the new disk, copying the unix file using cp -rp 
and did an ls -lrt and the file looks fine, linked and everything.  But when I alter 
the tablespace offline and try the move I get the above.  

Anybody know how to do this?  

Thanks,

Kathy

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Re: download leads to sales call

2002-07-08 Thread Jay Wade

I have noticed that they are doing more followup and sales calls lately.

Although I haven't downloaded anything recently they have been doing some 
periodic followup.  Just trying to meet sales goals no doubt.


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Hard to say.  Did the caller give any clues?

Did it sound like a We're curious how you're using our software? kind of
question or a When will you be sending us a check? kind of question?

Jared

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I'm doing with their software, but is it normal procedure? I can't
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Re: download leads to sales call

2002-07-08 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ

A few months ago I purchased 9i on CDROM (to long to download at 31.2).  I
haven't gotten a phone call nor an e-mail about it.

Ken Janusz, CPIM
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 This is new. I downloaded it (W2K version) several weeks ago and didn't
 get a call.

 I've never gotten a sales call when I've downloaded software from
 technet.


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RE: Increase size of REDO log

2002-07-08 Thread Taylor, Shirley

Look on Metalink for Note # 30910.1
It's an excellent guide for recreating redo logs as well as other objects.
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RE: Setting Up EXTPROC

2002-07-08 Thread Khedr, Waleed

Look at note: 99136.1 on the metalink.

It has also many references to other useful documents that might help.

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Hi all,

I've recently been asked to set up an extproc listener and as this is the
first non-apps one I have had to deal with, I was hopping somebody could
give some pointers.  I have RTFM, and sarcasm it's oh so clear /sarcasm.
Anyway, how does one go about figuring out the LISTENER_KEY?  Is the
EXTPROC_SID really a SID, or a program name (like FNDFS or OEORPC in the
Apps)?  Is the ORACLE_HOME really the ORACLE_HOME or the directory the
program name is in (again, like the apps).   Any real examples would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks, 

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RE: table size.

2002-07-08 Thread Hately Mike

This is expected behaviour. COMPRESS=Y doesn't make reference to the amount
of space occupied by rows, just the amount of blocks allocated to the object
as a whole.
It's one of the great misunderstood parameters; really it should have been
called COALESCE.
Richard's suggestion will probably work (depending on your INITIAL storage
definition for that table).
Alternatively, pre-create the table at the required size before importing
the table. Use IGNORE=Y on the import.

Also, a quick thought; if you really deleted 500 million rows, leaving 8
million behind it would have far quicker to copy those 8 million out and
drop the table. 

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500 mill?  How did you do your export?  Try compress=n

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Hi all

I have a table with 8 millions rows and I deleted the 500 million. Then I
exported tables (300 mb) and imported into another schema. After that, the
table size is still the same.

I thought table size should be taken much less space. the storage clause for
both table is the same: pct10,pctused 40.

any idea.

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RE: Oracle Applications Development Database Refresh

2002-07-08 Thread John Kanagaraj

Jared,

 I *think* this is 10.7 character.  

It would be if your users use a VT terminal emulator to access the
application. Be aware though that a combination of Character/Smart client
could exist... In this case, it does not matter though as the work that you
would do will be the same.
 
 I don't believe it  is NCA ( isn't that the Java Workstation version?
 You know, the one at Open World that never worked?  ;)

If you used any form-type interface within a Browser, then it would be NCA.
There are some web based elements though, such as Self Server Web Apps. The
difference is that NCA works like a form (Enter/Execute Query for e.g.)
while the SSWA is a pure Web-type interface.
 
 How would I identify Smart Client?

The Smart Client set consists of the Application (Forms) working off either
a 'Client' PC. In most cases, this is via a shared service such as Citrix -
on a Windows box in any case. In other words a very thick (smart!?!?!)
client.

Scott S - In many cases, the Apps SysAdmin performs the work on the
'applmgr' and related APPS/APPLSYS accounts after the Db/Appltop copy and
the DBA is not involved. 

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RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I realize that it helps that I don't have kids so I have spare cash
(no cash is ever really spare and I have very old, very expensive cats)

but it IS tax-deductible, at least in part and it's worth it. At least
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Re: Setting db_block_size with installer

2002-07-08 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I just installed 9.2 this weekend and my database block sizes are
8k

you need to set the blocksize on EACH tablespace. 

this is from memory, so assuredly not completely correct but should
help point you in the right direction:

for each tablespace, you can define where the datafiles are. Somewhere
on that tab menu, there is a screen that lets you set the blocksize

Rachel


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 I am trying to install Oracle 9.2 on Solaris using dbca (Database
 Configuration Assistant) and didn't see a handy box to set the
 db_block_size. I just edited the initialization parameter, but when
 dbca
 started installing the database, it returned the errors:
ORA-01503 Create controlfile failed
ORA-00058 DB_BLOCK_SIZE must be 4096 to mount this database, not
 8182
 
 This made me think that since dbca copies the files rather than
 creates
 them, that it may not be possible to use other than a 4k block size.
But on the other hand, I wanted to use dbca to ensure that I
 created 
 the
 database like an Oracle 9.2 database, rather than just create it like
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RE: Setting db_block_size with installer

2002-07-08 Thread Grabowy, Chris

Hello!  So is there a DB_BLOCK_SIZE to set for the database?  Or has that
been deprecated?  And from now you will have to set the block size for each
tablespace?

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I just installed 9.2 this weekend and my database block sizes are
8k

you need to set the blocksize on EACH tablespace. 

this is from memory, so assuredly not completely correct but should
help point you in the right direction:

for each tablespace, you can define where the datafiles are. Somewhere
on that tab menu, there is a screen that lets you set the blocksize

Rachel


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 I am trying to install Oracle 9.2 on Solaris using dbca (Database
 Configuration Assistant) and didn't see a handy box to set the
 db_block_size. I just edited the initialization parameter, but when
 dbca
 started installing the database, it returned the errors:
ORA-01503 Create controlfile failed
ORA-00058 DB_BLOCK_SIZE must be 4096 to mount this database, not
 8182
 
 This made me think that since dbca copies the files rather than
 creates
 them, that it may not be possible to use other than a 4k block size.
But on the other hand, I wanted to use dbca to ensure that I
 created 
 the
 database like an Oracle 9.2 database, rather than just create it like
 I
 would in Oracle 8i. 
Has anyone else faced this issue and have any thoughts to share?
 
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Re: moving Vertias quick io files in oracle

2002-07-08 Thread Suzy Vordos


Did you first move the file at the OS level?

Kathy Duret wrote:
 
 I am trying to move some oracle files that have been quick ioed using Veritas.
 
 I have no problem creating quickio files or growing them but when I try to move them 
I get
 
 SQL /
 alter database rename file '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf' to '/u18/oracle/prod
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-01511: error in renaming log/data files
 ORA-01516: nonexistent log file, datafile or tempfile
 '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'
 
 
 All the lovely manual says regarding moving files is:  trying moving the hot files.
 
 I tried making a new quick io file on the new disk, copying the unix file using cp 
-rp
 and did an ls -lrt and the file looks fine, linked and everything.  But when I alter 
the tablespace offline and try the move I get the above.
 
 Anybody know how to do this?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kathy
 
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RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Scott . Shafer

That wasn't a dig at anyone, Rachel.  It may be worth it, but if you don't
have the means to begin with, you can't very well write it off.

Scott Shafer
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 I realize that it helps that I don't have kids so I have spare cash
 (no cash is ever really spare and I have very old, very expensive cats)
 
 but it IS tax-deductible, at least in part and it's worth it. At least
 to me. and yes, I have gone and paid all costs myself
 
 
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   I NEVER get to see every presentation I want to see there. For my
   money, IOUG is the BEST conference around and more than worth the
  money
   
   Rachel
   --- Stephen Andert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Add to that the cost of getting there (Orlando FL for 2003), 
transportation to/from the airport
hotel (4-6 nights at around $200/night depending on what hotel
  you
stay
at)
some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events
  include
enough food for dinner)
 
That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.  IMHO,
  this is
the best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't speak
  for
developers.)  Both years I've gone, I was frustrated because
  there
were
more sessions that I wanted to attend that I could since they
  were at
the same time.  This year, there were no sessions that I attended
that I
didn't learn something from.  Many of the sessions generated a
  list
of
to do as soon as I get back to the office.  
 
Hope to see you there.
 
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Re:RE: Setting Up EXTPROC

2002-07-08 Thread dgoulet

John,

First question, is this the first extproc listener that you've setup on this
server?  If your configuring a second, you can't really do that as there can be
one and only one extproc_connection_data entry in your tnsnames.ora file.  What
you need in this case is a new library that points to the new shared library
file.

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Look at note: 99136.1 on the metalink.

It has also many references to other useful documents that might help.

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Hi all,

I've recently been asked to set up an extproc listener and as this is the
first non-apps one I have had to deal with, I was hopping somebody could
give some pointers.  I have RTFM, and sarcasm it's oh so clear /sarcasm.
Anyway, how does one go about figuring out the LISTENER_KEY?  Is the
EXTPROC_SID really a SID, or a program name (like FNDFS or OEORPC in the
Apps)?  Is the ORACLE_HOME really the ORACLE_HOME or the directory the
program name is in (again, like the apps).   Any real examples would be
greatly appreciated.

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RE: moving Vertias quick io files in oracle

2002-07-08 Thread Kathy Duret

Yes

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Did you first move the file at the OS level?

Kathy Duret wrote:
 
 I am trying to move some oracle files that have been quick ioed using Veritas.
 
 I have no problem creating quickio files or growing them but when I try to move them 
I get
 
 SQL /
 alter database rename file '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf' to '/u18/oracle/prod
 *
 ERROR at line 1:
 ORA-01511: error in renaming log/data files
 ORA-01516: nonexistent log file, datafile or tempfile
 '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'
 
 
 All the lovely manual says regarding moving files is:  trying moving the hot files.
 
 I tried making a new quick io file on the new disk, copying the unix file using cp 
-rp
 and did an ls -lrt and the file looks fine, linked and everything.  But when I alter 
the tablespace offline and try the move I get the above.
 
 Anybody know how to do this?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Kathy
 
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slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread Kathy Duret

Ok,  I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it.

But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I get 644 permissions.

My umask is 02.

On another system - solaris everything ok.

Both .profiles are the same.

Sys admins no help.  

Any clues?

Thanks,

Kathy

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RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

-you can't very well write it off.

Enron and Worldcom accountants can.  ;o)

Dave

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That wasn't a dig at anyone, Rachel.  It may be worth it, but if you don't
have the means to begin with, you can't very well write it off.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
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 I realize that it helps that I don't have kids so I have spare cash
 (no cash is ever really spare and I have very old, very expensive cats)
 
 but it IS tax-deductible, at least in part and it's worth it. At least
 to me. and yes, I have gone and paid all costs myself
 
 
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   I NEVER get to see every presentation I want to see there. For my
   money, IOUG is the BEST conference around and more than worth the
  money
   
   Rachel
   --- Stephen Andert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Add to that the cost of getting there (Orlando FL for 2003), 
transportation to/from the airport
hotel (4-6 nights at around $200/night depending on what hotel
  you
stay
at)
some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events
  include
enough food for dinner)
 
That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.  IMHO,
  this is
the best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't speak
  for
developers.)  Both years I've gone, I was frustrated because
  there
were
more sessions that I wanted to attend that I could since they
  were at
the same time.  This year, there were no sessions that I attended
that I
didn't learn something from.  Many of the sessions generated a
  list
of
to do as soon as I get back to the office.  
 
Hope to see you there.
 
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RE: Increase size of REDO log

2002-07-08 Thread Nguyen, David M

How about if I use LogMiner to read redo log to check which transaction had
been modified in 5 days ago, how do I know which redo log to look at?

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First,

Check for the one that is not the current one.

Select * from V$log;

ALTER DATABASE DROP LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log';

delete the file manually

ALTER DATABASE ADD LOGFILE '/u01/oradata/orcl/redo01.log' size 30M;

Change your size to your desire one.

For the other ones do the same.

To change the active one.

ALTER SYSTEM SWITCH LOGFILE;

hth

Ramon



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RE: Oracle Applications Development Database Refresh

2002-07-08 Thread Scott . Shafer

Gotchya.  Thanks, that's why I wasn't sure what had to be done there.

Scott Shafer
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 Scott S - In many cases, the Apps SysAdmin performs the work on the
 'applmgr' and related APPS/APPLSYS accounts after the Db/Appltop copy and
 the DBA is not involved. 
 
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RE: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread John Kanagaraj

Kathy,

 Ok,  I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it.
 
 But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I 
 get 644 permissions.
 
 My umask is 02.

The umask value is overwritten by the program's mode of writing the file. In
other words, umask is the default mode when an override is not specified.
For example, the trace files created by the Kernel do not have world read
permissions regardless of umask - they are set to world-read using the
'_trace_files_public = TRUE' parameter which instructs the kernel to create
these files in a world-readable mode.

Hth!
John Kanagaraj
Oracle Applications DBA
DBSoft Inc
(W): 408-970-7002

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STATSPACK and sppurge.sql

2002-07-08 Thread Jesse, Rich

Hi all,

I'm going to (finally!) be implementing STATSPACK on our 8.1.7.2.0 DB.  The
thing that kills me is all the junk that ?/rdbms/admin/sppurge.sql leaves
behind!  Is there any harm in deleting the rows from these tables:

select table_name
from user_tab_columns
where column_name = 'SNAP_ID';

...where the SNAP_ID is in the range I want to delete?

I've seen a few messages in the archives that dealt with this, but none I
found were comprehensive in their deletes.  Or am I just being too
aggressive with this?

TIA!

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RE: STATSPACK and sppurge.sql

2002-07-08 Thread Jesse, Rich

OK, it looks like I should probably leave STATS$DATABASE_INSTANCE alone and
STATS$SQLTEXT will have to be dealt with, but the other tables?

TIA*2!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 2:22 PM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: STATSPACK and sppurge.sql
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'm going to (finally!) be implementing STATSPACK on our 
 8.1.7.2.0 DB.  The thing that kills me is all the junk that 
 ?/rdbms/admin/sppurge.sql leaves behind!  Is there any harm 
 in deleting the rows from these tables:
 
   select table_name
   from user_tab_columns
   where column_name = 'SNAP_ID';
 
 ...where the SNAP_ID is in the range I want to delete?
 
 I've seen a few messages in the archives that dealt with 
 this, but none I found were comprehensive in their deletes.  
 Or am I just being too aggressive with this?
 
 TIA!
 
 Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Quad/Tech International, 
 Sussex, WI USA
 
 
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RE: moving Vertias quick io files in oracle

2002-07-08 Thread Kathy Duret

This is what I did

I created a file at the unix level using quickio in /u16
/opt/VRTSvxfs/sbin/qiomkfile -h 8k -s 100k atest.dbf

Then created the tablespace atest with datafile /u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf

To simulate moving a files I did the same thing in u18
/opt/VRTSvxfs/sbin/qiomkfile -h 8k -s 100k atest.dbf

In oracle as system I altered offline atest

unix as oracle cp -rp atest.dbf to /u18/oracle/proddata

ls -lrt

lrwxrwxrwx   1 oracle   dba   22 Jul  8 10:21 atest.dbf - .atest.dbf::c
dev:vxfs:  

looks just fine.  Then went back into oracle and as system:

alter database rename file '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf' to  
'/u18/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'  

And then I get this error.  
 


: *
: ERROR at line 1:
: ORA-01511: error in renaming log/data files
: ORA-01516: nonexistent log file, datafile or tempfile
: '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'
: 


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Hi Kathy.

I am still a little new to Veritas, but maybe I can make a couple of helpful 
suggestions.

We use exact names instead of the links. This means that the name in the 
database and the name on the file system are actually different. We have to move 
the file at the os level and then change the name in the database using the 
names the database is expecting. (we have a ::cdev:vxfs: on the end of the 
files).

The use of the symbolic links is a little more straight forward. It is necessary 
to move the file (actually a .file) and create a new symbolic link for it (with 
the Q I/O extension). Then in the database the .file name is used without the . 
I beleive.

Hope this helps.
donita


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:Kathy Duret wrote:
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: I am trying to move some oracle files that have been quick ioed using 
Veritas.
: 
: I have no problem creating quickio files or growing them but when I try to 
move them I get
: 
: SQL /
: alter database rename file '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf' to 
'/u18/oracle/prod
: *
: ERROR at line 1:
: ORA-01511: error in renaming log/data files
: ORA-01516: nonexistent log file, datafile or tempfile
: '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'
: 
: 
: All the lovely manual says regarding moving files is:  trying moving the 
hot files.
: 
: I tried making a new quick io file on the new disk, copying the unix file 
using cp -rp
: and did an ls -lrt and the file looks fine, linked and everything.  But when 
I alter the tablespace offline and try the move I get the above.
: 
: Anybody know how to do this?
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: Kathy
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RE: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread Kathy Duret

Ok then why would my oem on one solaris system write files as 664 and another write 
files as 644?

both databases  have '_trace_files_public = TRUE' parameter.

both are writing out files using utl_file.  The only difference is one sits on a 
Netapp filer.

I am still confused.

Kathy

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Kathy,

 Ok,  I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it.
 
 But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I 
 get 644 permissions.
 
 My umask is 02.

The umask value is overwritten by the program's mode of writing the file. In
other words, umask is the default mode when an override is not specified.
For example, the trace files created by the Kernel do not have world read
permissions regardless of umask - they are set to world-read using the
'_trace_files_public = TRUE' parameter which instructs the kernel to create
these files in a world-readable mode.

Hth!
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DBSoft Inc
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Re: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread Alex

for your permissions and umask use all four digits and see what happens.



On Mon, 8 Jul 2002, Kathy Duret wrote:

 Ok,  I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it.

 But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I get 644 permissions.

 My umask is 02.

 On another system - solaris everything ok.

 Both .profiles are the same.

 Sys admins no help.

 Any clues?

 Thanks,

 Kathy

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Looking for book contributors

2002-07-08 Thread Freeman, Robert

First of all, apologies to those I have talked to about helping with our new
RMAN
book. I've been searching for email addresses that I thought I had tucked
away, and 
only found one. I know there were 2 - 3 other people who expressed a desire
to help
with our RMAN book project. So now, out goes the call!!

We need someone (or 2 someone's) to contribute about 10 pages to two
different RMAN MML topics.
We need someone to do 10 pages on configuring Tivoli Storage manager and
Legato Networker for use
with RMAN, and then interfacing with them with RMAN commands.

If you would be interested in doing this, please EMAIL me and let me know.
I can't offer any pay for this small assignment, but I can offer you a big
thank you
mention in the acknowledgements and a really cool thing to add to your
resume!

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author: Oracle9i New Features 
Mastering Oracle8i    

Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and 
your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin' 
crazy.


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Error on creating index

2002-07-08 Thread Ali TOYGAR



Hi ,
 I have a problem with creating 
an index ot table AAA with 40 records.

After I write following sql and run it ORACLE 
stops. 
CREATE INDEX 
index_1ONUSER1.AAA ( 
field1,field2 )

I copied same table to user2 and when I write above 
sql it runs 


CREATE INDEX 
index_1ONUSER2.AAA ( 
field1,field2 )

Both users ( user1 and user2 ) have same priviliges.(unlimited tables 
space,connect,resource,...)

what is the problem.

please help me


RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Jared . Still

Try the off topic list.  There are a number
of 'faces' there. 

Jared






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Although it is not cheap to attend IOUG, I agree it is very worthwhile.
If money is an issue consider:
 1) Presenting - your conference fee is waived or reduced (for quick tips)
 2) Volunteering - I volunteered when it was held in Denver and received
$300 off for being a room monitor for a day
 3) Sharing hotel room - I prefer the solitude of a hotel room to
decompress/working on my presentation, but if money is tight, it's not a 
bad
way to go. Then again, after sharing a 'room' (about the size of a 
cubicle)
at Gorak Shep, Nepal with 2 other men, anything with indoor plumbing is
luxurious.
 4) Shopping around/staying offsite - I found a significantly better rate 
on
a room on Expedia for San Diego. Not sure about Dolphin  Swan...

Of course, the best reason to spend the money...
 Put a face with all those anonymous geeks who post smart-@ss RTFM 
comments
on the list...

Dan Fink

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If you have the money...

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210-581-6217


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 I NEVER get to see every presentation I want to see there. For my
 money, IOUG is the BEST conference around and more than worth the money
 
 Rachel
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  transportation to/from the airport
  hotel (4-6 nights at around $200/night depending on what hotel you
  stay
  at)
  some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events include
  enough food for dinner)
  
  That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.  IMHO, this is
  the best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't speak for
  developers.)  Both years I've gone, I was frustrated because there
  were
  more sessions that I wanted to attend that I could since they were at
  the same time.  This year, there were no sessions that I attended
  that I
  didn't learn something from.  Many of the sessions generated a list
  of
  to do as soon as I get back to the office. 
  
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Re: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread Suzy Vordos


If you see perm diffs on the files written to NetApp, that could be the
result of mount_nfs permissions.

Kathy Duret wrote:
 
 Ok then why would my oem on one solaris system write files as 664 and another write 
files as 644?
 
 both databases  have '_trace_files_public = TRUE' parameter.
 
 both are writing out files using utl_file.  The only difference is one sits on a 
Netapp filer.
 
 I am still confused.
 
 Kathy
 
 p.s.  I know your carpenter.  He does good work.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 1:25 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 Kathy,
 
  Ok,  I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it.
 
  But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I
  get 644 permissions.
 
  My umask is 02.
 
 The umask value is overwritten by the program's mode of writing the file. In
 other words, umask is the default mode when an override is not specified.
 For example, the trace files created by the Kernel do not have world read
 permissions regardless of umask - they are set to world-read using the
 '_trace_files_public = TRUE' parameter which instructs the kernel to create
 these files in a world-readable mode.
 
 Hth!
 John Kanagaraj
 Oracle Applications DBA
 DBSoft Inc
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RE: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread John Kanagaraj

Hi Kathy,

 Ok then why would my oem on one solaris system write files as 
 664 and another write files as 644?
 both databases  have '_trace_files_public = TRUE' parameter.
 both are writing out files using utl_file.  The only 
 difference is one sits on a Netapp filer.

Was the Database/Listener bounced after a change in umask? This _could_
explain the difference in behaviour... The values are read during process
startup - a change in umask would not be noticed unless the Db/listener is
bounced. Was this the case? I am confused too!

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RE: 2003 IOUG Meeting

2002-07-08 Thread Tim Levatich

Hi, All.

Before this thread ends, take a swing at this, please:
Assuming one can only attend a single conference per year, which is a 
better value, IOUG or OpenWorld?

Thanks.

At 12:07 PM 7/8/02 -0800, you wrote:
 -you can't very well write it off.

Enron and Worldcom accountants can.  ;o)

Dave

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That wasn't a dig at anyone, Rachel.  It may be worth it, but if you don't
have the means to begin with, you can't very well write it off.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
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  I realize that it helps that I don't have kids so I have spare cash
  (no cash is ever really spare and I have very old, very expensive cats)
 
  but it IS tax-deductible, at least in part and it's worth it. At least
  to me. and yes, I have gone and paid all costs myself
 
 
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I NEVER get to see every presentation I want to see there. For my
money, IOUG is the BEST conference around and more than worth the
   money
   
Rachel
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 some meals (lunch is usually provided, some evening events
   include
 enough food for dinner)

 That said, I hope that doesn't scare your company off.  IMHO,
   this is
 the best investment you can make in your DBA's.  (I can't speak
   for
 developers.)  Both years I've gone, I was frustrated because
   there
 were
 more sessions that I wanted to attend that I could since they
   were at
 the same time.  This year, there were no sessions that I attended
 that I
 didn't learn something from.  Many of the sessions generated a
   list
 of
 to do as soon as I get back to the office.

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Re: Error on creating index

2002-07-08 Thread Danisment Gazi Unal (ubTools)



Hello,
What does "Oracle stops" mean ? If Oracle crashes without an error,
check alert.log. If not, debug your session with event 1006 level 8 to
see Oracle kernel events.
regards...
Ali TOYGAR wrote:

Hi
, I have
a problem with creating an index ot table AAA with 40 records.After
I write following sql and run it ORACLE stops.CREATE
INDEX index_1
ON USER1.AAA
 ( field1,
 field2 )I
copied same table to user2 and when I write above sql it runs CREATE
INDEX index_1
ON USER2.AAA
 ( field1,
 field2 )Both
users ( user1 and user2 ) have same priviliges.(unlimited tables space,connect,resource,...)what
is the problem.please
help me

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Re: Error on creating index

2002-07-08 Thread Stephen Andert

Ali, 

Do you get an error message? If so, post it as that will help
troubleshooting efforts.

Is there already an index named index_1 in the USER1 schema?

Just some ideas.

Stephen 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/08/02 02:04PM 
Hi ,
I have a problem with creating an  index ot table AAA with 40
records.

After I write following sql and run it ORACLE stops. 
CREATE  INDEX index_1
 ON USER1.AAA
  ( field1,
field2  )

I copied same table to user2 and when I write above sql it runs 

CREATE  INDEX index_1
 ON USER2.AAA
  ( field1,
field2  )

Both users ( user1 and user2 ) have same priviliges.(unlimited tables
space,connect,resource,...)

what is the problem.

please help me
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RE: Looking for book contributors

2002-07-08 Thread Brian McGraw

Robert -

I had spoken with you about the book at the IOUG, and gave you a copy of
the outline I had been toying with.  You had mentioned that you might
like me to possibly contribute some information on Veritas NetBackup.
Would that still be possible?

Brian

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First of all, apologies to those I have talked to about helping with our
new
RMAN
book. I've been searching for email addresses that I thought I had
tucked
away, and 
only found one. I know there were 2 - 3 other people who expressed a
desire
to help
with our RMAN book project. So now, out goes the call!!

We need someone (or 2 someone's) to contribute about 10 pages to two
different RMAN MML topics.
We need someone to do 10 pages on configuring Tivoli Storage manager and
Legato Networker for use
with RMAN, and then interfacing with them with RMAN commands.

If you would be interested in doing this, please EMAIL me and let me
know.
I can't offer any pay for this small assignment, but I can offer you a
big
thank you
mention in the acknowledgements and a really cool thing to add to your
resume!

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
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RE: Looking for book contributors

2002-07-08 Thread Brian McGraw

Sorry, all... That was obviously a message meant only for Robert...

Stupid hotkeys...

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First of all, apologies to those I have talked to about helping with our
new
RMAN
book. I've been searching for email addresses that I thought I had
tucked
away, and 
only found one. I know there were 2 - 3 other people who expressed a
desire
to help
with our RMAN book project. So now, out goes the call!!

We need someone (or 2 someone's) to contribute about 10 pages to two
different RMAN MML topics.
We need someone to do 10 pages on configuring Tivoli Storage manager and
Legato Networker for use
with RMAN, and then interfacing with them with RMAN commands.

If you would be interested in doing this, please EMAIL me and let me
know.
I can't offer any pay for this small assignment, but I can offer you a
big
thank you
mention in the acknowledgements and a really cool thing to add to your
resume!

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author: Oracle9i New Features 
Mastering Oracle8i    

Clark Griswold: Eddie, has anyone ever told you that you're bad luck?
Cousin Eddie: Those were my mother's dying words. But I
guess if your body's covered in third degree burns, and 
your foot's caught in a bear trap, you tend to start talkin' 
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RE: Oracle Applications Development Database Refresh

2002-07-08 Thread Jared . Still

Thanks Scott, but the applmgr stuff is where the details are.






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Jared, we do that here, but just:
take a cold backup of the production db, 
lay it down over the old dev db (via scp or tape), 
and open it renaming with a backup cpontrolfile script. 

Works like a charm, though I'm not sure what applmgr steps are required.

Scott Shafer
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 Fellow listers,
 
 In addition to the usual SAP system that runs most of our company, we 
have
 Oracle Apps 10.7 HR.  For some reason the HR folks didn't like the SAP 
HR
 module, so I have SAP and Oracle Apps.
 
 The problem is a request I have to refresh the Dev database from the 
 Production database.
 
 If you can point me to the correct documentation for this, I'll take a 
 look at it.
 
 There's a lot of stuff to wade through in the docs and MetaLink, and I'd 

 rather just
 read documentation that's actually relevant.
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: moving Vertias quick io files in oracle

2002-07-08 Thread Donita Hilfinger

Kathy,

I am assuming that you did a cp and not a mv to get the file into /u18 from 
/u16.

If you do an ls -ltra in both directories (u16  u18) is there an atest.dbf and 
a .atest.dbf in both directories (atest.dbf links to .atest.dbf::cdev:vxfs:)?

The error seems to imply that the original file or directory does not exist.

donita




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:This is what I did
:
:I created a file at the unix level using quickio in /u16
:/opt/VRTSvxfs/sbin/qiomkfile -h 8k -s 100k atest.dbf
:
:Then created the tablespace atest with datafile /u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf
:
:To simulate moving a files I did the same thing in u18
:/opt/VRTSvxfs/sbin/qiomkfile -h 8k -s 100k atest.dbf
:
:In oracle as system I altered offline atest
:
:unix as oracle cp -rp atest.dbf to /u18/oracle/proddata
:
:ls -lrt
:
:lrwxrwxrwx   1 oracle   dba   22 Jul  8 10:21 atest.dbf - 
.atest.dbf::c
:dev:vxfs:  
:
:looks just fine.  Then went back into oracle and as system:
:
:alter database rename file '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf' to  
:'/u18/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'  
:
:And then I get this error.  
: 
:
:
:: *
:: ERROR at line 1:
:: ORA-01511: error in renaming log/data files
:: ORA-01516: nonexistent log file, datafile or tempfile
:: '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'
:: 
:
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:Hi Kathy.
:
:I am still a little new to Veritas, but maybe I can make a couple of helpful 
:suggestions.
:
:We use exact names instead of the links. This means that the name in the 
:database and the name on the file system are actually different. We have to 
move 
:the file at the os level and then change the name in the database using the 
:names the database is expecting. (we have a ::cdev:vxfs: on the end of the 
:files).
:
:The use of the symbolic links is a little more straight forward. It is 
necessary 
:to move the file (actually a .file) and create a new symbolic link for it (with 
:the Q I/O extension). Then in the database the .file name is used without the . 
:I beleive.
:
:Hope this helps.
:donita
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::Did you first move the file at the OS level?
::
::Kathy Duret wrote:
:: 
:: I am trying to move some oracle files that have been quick ioed using 
:Veritas.
:: 
:: I have no problem creating quickio files or growing them but when I try to 
:move them I get
:: 
:: SQL /
:: alter database rename file '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf' to 
:'/u18/oracle/prod
:: *
:: ERROR at line 1:
:: ORA-01511: error in renaming log/data files
:: ORA-01516: nonexistent log file, datafile or tempfile
:: '/u16/oracle/proddata/atest.dbf'
:: 
:: 
:: All the lovely manual says regarding moving files is:  trying moving the 
:hot files.
:: 
:: I tried making a new quick io file on the new disk, copying the unix file 
:using cp -rp
:: and did an ls -lrt and the file looks fine, linked and everything.  But when 
:I alter the tablespace offline and try the move I get the above.
:: 
:: Anybody know how to do this?
:: 
:: Thanks,
:: 
:: Kathy
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RE: Oracle Applications Development Database Refresh

2002-07-08 Thread Jared . Still

Thanks John.

Definitely not NCA.

Definitely not using terminal emulation, so it must be the smart client.

I'll take a whack at it using your instructions as soon as I can get to 
it.

The dev instance is on the same (underpowered) box as production
server.  I don't yet know if this simplifies things, or complicates them.

Jared






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Jared,

 I *think* this is 10.7 character. 

It would be if your users use a VT terminal emulator to access the
application. Be aware though that a combination of Character/Smart client
could exist... In this case, it does not matter though as the work that 
you
would do will be the same.
 
 I don't believe it  is NCA ( isn't that the Java Workstation version?
 You know, the one at Open World that never worked?  ;)

If you used any form-type interface within a Browser, then it would be 
NCA.
There are some web based elements though, such as Self Server Web Apps. 
The
difference is that NCA works like a form (Enter/Execute Query for e.g.)
while the SSWA is a pure Web-type interface.
 
 How would I identify Smart Client?

The Smart Client set consists of the Application (Forms) working off 
either
a 'Client' PC. In most cases, this is via a shared service such as Citrix 
-
on a Windows box in any case. In other words a very thick (smart!?!?!)
client.

Scott S - In many cases, the Apps SysAdmin performs the work on the
'applmgr' and related APPS/APPLSYS accounts after the Db/Appltop copy and
the DBA is not involved. 

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Re: slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler

2002-07-08 Thread Jared . Still

Kathy,

I'm going to assume that what you're trying to do is create UTL_FILE files 
that
have group r/w permissions.  As others have pointed out, you're being 
thwarted
by the perms of the oracle process.

Here's how I've overridden that in the past.

Assuming your directory is /u01/utl_file/db01/, create a new group called
util_file in unix.

Now change the group and perms on the directory:

   chgrp util_file  /u01/utl_file/db01/
   chmod g+rxs  /u01/utl_file/db01/

Now all files created in the  /u01/utl_file/db01/ file directory will have
a group of util_file with read permission.

Just add the util_file group to users that need access.

Read the chmod man page for details.

Jared






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Subject:slightly OT, permissions unix/oracle puzzler


Ok,  I log in as oracle, touch a file I get 664 permission on it.

But when I create a file through OEM or a plsql procedure I get 644 
permissions.

My umask is 02.

On another system - solaris everything ok.

Both .profiles are the same.

Sys admins no help. 

Any clues?

Thanks,

Kathy

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RE: Oracle Applications Development Database Refresh

2002-07-08 Thread Scott . Shafer

My apps person tells me that they just restore the db and the applmgr stuff
works fine with 10.7.  Its sloppier than restoring the appl_top as well, but
works.  11/11i being an entirely different animal.

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
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 Thanks Scott, but the applmgr stuff is where the details are.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Jared, we do that here, but just:
 take a cold backup of the production db, 
 lay it down over the old dev db (via scp or tape), 
 and open it renaming with a backup cpontrolfile script. 
 
 Works like a charm, though I'm not sure what applmgr steps are required.
 
 Scott Shafer
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  Fellow listers,
  
  In addition to the usual SAP system that runs most of our company, we 
 have
  Oracle Apps 10.7 HR.  For some reason the HR folks didn't like the SAP 
 HR
  module, so I have SAP and Oracle Apps.
  
  The problem is a request I have to refresh the Dev database from the 
  Production database.
  
  If you can point me to the correct documentation for this, I'll take a 
  look at it.
  
  There's a lot of stuff to wade through in the docs and MetaLink, and I'd
 
 
  rather just
  read documentation that's actually relevant.
  
  Thanks,
  
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RE: STATSPACK and sppurge.sql

2002-07-08 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Jesse - I'm doing this from memory, so I may be off a little. Look at the
table STATS$SNAPSHOT. Records in this table are related to the other tables
that are populated each time a snapshot occurs (the magic of relationships).
If you delete a row from this table, rows in the other tables are
automatically deleted. Since deleting statistics is a low-risk proposition
for most of us, give it a try. Start by deleting 10 rows to start with,
because deleting is SLOOOW!! As I recall, deleting a 100 snapshots may take
30 minutes. Anyway, this is the best way I've found to delete STATSPACK
statistics.

Dennis Williams
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Hi all,

I'm going to (finally!) be implementing STATSPACK on our 8.1.7.2.0 DB.  The
thing that kills me is all the junk that ?/rdbms/admin/sppurge.sql leaves
behind!  Is there any harm in deleting the rows from these tables:

select table_name
from user_tab_columns
where column_name = 'SNAP_ID';

...where the SNAP_ID is in the range I want to delete?

I've seen a few messages in the archives that dealt with this, but none I
found were comprehensive in their deletes.  Or am I just being too
aggressive with this?

TIA!

Rich Jesse   System/Database Administrator
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