Re: Any do's and dont's for a 9i oracle installation on RedHat Linux

2002-08-30 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

Hi,
Suse7.2 is certified with 9.0.1. It will never be certified with 9.2 and
later versions. Suse has a special product SLES - Suse Linux Enterprise
Server. It's based on Suse 7.2 and include many official patches and
upgrades.
Afaik, with Suse 7.2 you may not upgrade your kernel and be certified with
Oracle. (7.2 out-of-the-box has 2.4.4) It's not always the problem, but you
have a chance to forget about Oracle support when you critically need it.
The current politic of Suse regarding Oracle is to support new products from
now (or some time in the past) on SLES. So it's certified with 9iR2
(including RAC), iAS 9iR2, Apps 11i.
Btw, Suse guys claim that Oracle uses Suse as linux development platform.

I know RH has something like Suse's SLES... called RH AS (advanced server),
but dunno much about it.
We use 7.2 (plus 2.4.16 kernel) for several servers and pretty much happy
with it. However, we will move to SLES soon.

Alexandre

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Hi Ray,

I have Oracle 8.1.7 and 9.0.1 running on an Suse 7.2 box configured with
ext3 file systems. Both instances are working properly and without major
issues.

Suse 7.2 comes along with a variety of file systems , including  ReiserFS ,
ext3 , ext2 , Aix´s JFS  and other that I can´t recall now.

Regards,
Antonio Belloni



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Not on the oracle topic:

RH is pretty insecure out of the box.  If you don't take steps
to lock it down the machine will be compromised within the hour in
our experience.  There are some good web pages out on the steps
that need to be taken:

http://www.sans.org/newlook/projects/bastille_linux.htm
http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/People/Bill/basic_sec.html

I'd suggest the use of iptables:

http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~jns/security/iptables/

That said, I have a screaming 8.1.7.4 server running on RH 7.1.  I am
unhappy with the oracle support matrix for RH, however.  It seems to
have stalled a 7.1.  I'm thinking of giving SuSE 7.2 a run since it is
supported, hoping the ext3 filesystem is there.  RH7.1 only has ext2.
The seemed to be pushing the RH advanced server with 9i, which seems like
a real Redmond, WA thing.




On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:08:19AM -0800, Docherty, Heather wrote:
 I am installing RedHat Linux and oracle 9i on two RM servers.

 I have never run Linux before.  I usually run HP L-class or Sun Sparc
 servers with 8/8i.

 I would welcome emails with tips anybody has for avoiding anything I
don't
 know that I should be avoiding yet, if you see what I mean!

 OT: Does anyone know why running startx, after boot-up to a Linux text
 prompt, causes the shutdown -r to hang the box and not reboot?

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RE: Slightly OT: Rounding Negative Numbers

2002-08-30 Thread Naveen Nahata

Why are you including -0.870?? In that case you should also include -.880.

I think theoretically there is nothing right or wrong about rounding thing.
You have to decide upon one way and follow that universally.

Naveen

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I have to jump in at this point since the arguments for rounding -0.875 to
-0.87 just don't seem quite right (I guess I might be Gaussian about this
thing).  Let me use a different approach to this argument:

Value   Rounded
-0.870  -0.87
-0.871  -0.87
-0.872  -0.87
-0.873  -0.87
-0.874  -0.87
-0.875  ?
-0.876  -0.88
-0.877  -0.88
-0.878  -0.88
-0.879  -0.88

Let's look at the distribution.  If -0.875 rounds to -0.87 then 60% of the
values round to -0.87 and 40% round to -0.88.  But, if -0.875 rounds to -0.88
then 50% of the values round each way.  A 50/50 split is much more pleasing
to my mind than a 60/40 split.

In my opinion, the Java example gave the wrong answer.  I have to wonder if
the expression (a*100) got cast into an integer before being handed to the
round class.  The alternative of questioning the validity of the class is
less appealing.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

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After an intense ask-your-local-mathematician-session, here you go:

It depends ;) (That's typical math-guys, isn't it ?). If you define round
according to the Gauss function, then it should calculate it using absolute
values, that would be -0.88. On the other hand, round is usually defined
to go for the higher value from 5 on, so, since -0.87 is higher than
-0.875, -0.87 would be correct.
You actually don't know wether the function is implemented one or the other
way. You can just try. And if you are not content with the results, you have
to cook your own.

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I know the rule round up, but does up mean the highest value (-0.87) or 
the highest absolute magnitude (-0.88)? :)

- Bill.

At 09:53 28/08/2002 -0800, you wrote:

I would think -0.875 would round up therefore -0.87 is my guess.

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Re: PL/SQL Editor

2002-08-30 Thread Yechiel Adar

We are using TOAD for the DBA team.
For the developers we got PlSqlDeveloper and it works fine.

You can check also www.quest.com for the new sql editor that they developed
recently.

Yechiel Adar
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 Hi All,
  which is the best PL/SQL editor available as a trial version .
 the editor should support Oracle sql,PL/SQL and may or may not
 support debugging.
 The tool should be support Win 9X OS and provide best
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RE: Slightly OT: Rounding Negative Numbers

2002-08-30 Thread Jack van Zanen

Hi

if you include -0.870, you should also include -0.880 in which case the
split will go 6:5 either way you choose.


Jack


   

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I have to jump in at this point since the arguments for rounding -0.875 to
-0.87 just don't seem quite right (I guess I might be Gaussian about this
thing).  Let me use a different approach to this argument:

Value   Rounded
-0.870  -0.87
-0.871  -0.87
-0.872  -0.87
-0.873  -0.87
-0.874  -0.87
-0.875  ?
-0.876  -0.88
-0.877  -0.88
-0.878  -0.88
-0.879  -0.88

Let's look at the distribution.  If -0.875 rounds to -0.87 then 60% of the
values round to -0.87 and 40% round to -0.88.  But, if -0.875 rounds to
-0.88 then 50% of the values round each way.  A 50/50 split is much more
pleasing to my mind than a 60/40 split.

In my opinion, the Java example gave the wrong answer.  I have to wonder if
the expression (a*100) got cast into an integer before being handed to the
round class.  The alternative of questioning the validity of the class is
less appealing.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 7:18 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


After an intense ask-your-local-mathematician-session, here you go:

It depends ;) (That's typical math-guys, isn't it ?). If you define round
according to the Gauss function, then it should calculate it using absolute
values, that would be -0.88. On the other hand, round is usually defined
to go for the higher value from 5 on, so, since -0.87 is higher than
-0.875, -0.87 would be correct.
You actually don't know wether the function is implemented one or the other
way. You can just try. And if you are not content with the results, you
have
to cook your own.

Regards,

Stefan Jahnke
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I know the rule round up, but does up mean the highest value (-0.87) or

the highest absolute magnitude (-0.88)? :)

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RE: Index hints?

2002-08-30 Thread Naveen Nahata

If you specify a hint Oracle is forced to use the index.

Your hint's syntax is wrong. USE - /*+ INDEX(test index_a) */ 

 Don't use the comma *** between the table name and the index name

Naveen

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Hi, All,

  On a million row table, test, there is primary key on column a. 

when  I run select /*+ index (test,indx_a) */ a, b, c, from test, according
to Oracle, I should get the following explain plan.
TABLE ACCESS
BY INDEX ROWID test 1 
INDEX
UNIQUE SCAN PK_test 1

But I acctucally got :
 TABLE ACCESS
FULL   test  1

The database optimizer mode is choose, and I  gathered the statistics on
table and index using dbms_utitlity and analyze.
In the session level, I also set optimizer_mode=first_rows to push optimizer
to choose the index.
According to Oracle Doc use hints to force the optimizer to use the optimal
execution plan., to my understanding, the explain plan under such a
situation, should be the first one. 

Does Oracle follow the hint? or to waht extents, it follows?

Appreciated if someone guides me to the right direction.

Chuan,








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Re: Index hints?

2002-08-30 Thread zhu chao

Chuan Zhang,

hei£¬you statement choose all rows from the table,Of course oracle will use full 
table scan!
There is no where clause in your SQL.If you add:
select a,b,c from test where a=some_value, then of course it will use the 
index.


Regards
zhu chao
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=== 2002-08-29 23:03:00 ,you wrote£º===

Hi, All,

  On a million row table, test, there is primary key on column a.

when  I run select /*+ index (test,indx_a) */ a, b, c, from test, according to 
Oracle, I should get the following explain plan.
TABLE ACCESS
BY INDEX ROWID test 1
INDEX
UNIQUE SCAN PK_test 1

But I acctucally got :
 TABLE ACCESS
FULL   test  1

The database optimizer mode is choose, and I  gathered the statistics on table and 
index using dbms_utitlity and analyze.
In the session level, I also set optimizer_mode=first_rows to push optimizer to 
choose the index.
According to Oracle Doc use hints to force the optimizer to use the optimal 
execution plan., to my understanding, the explain plan under such a situation, 
should be the first one.

Does Oracle follow the hint? or to waht extents, it follows?

Appreciated if someone guides me to the right direction.

Chuan,

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =




zhu chao
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2002-08-30



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RE: arg list too long in unix

2002-08-30 Thread kommareddy sreenivasa

Hi all,

Is there something like, 

unix is unable to use commands like ls -ltr (sort etc)
when there are huge number of files in a directory(may
be thousands/millions).

If yes, what is the limit and how to know it on sun
solaris 2.8.

thnx and regards,
srinivas

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 eg find . -name '*' -exec rm {} \; 
 
 readt this : 
 
 http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6060
 
 
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 Hi all,
 
 OS: SOlaris 2.8
 DB: 8i
 
 In the clean up process of the following files, I am
 trying to list out the files that start with cz.
 
  cz-session-returnui177_11Jan02_0959AM_33509.txt
  cz-session-Applet178_11Jan02_0959AM_34108.txt
  cz-session-returnui175_11Jan02_0959AM_20504.txt
  cz-session-DHTML176_11Jan02_0959AM_22335.txt
  cz-session-returnui179_11Jan02_1000AM_34566.txt
  cz-session-Applet180_11Jan02_1000AM_34818.txt
  cz-session-BatchSingle181_11Jan02_1001AM_07757.txt
  cz-session-BatchSingle182_11Jan02_1001AM_11687.txt
  cz-session-BatchSingle183_11Jan02_1001AM_14010.txt
  cz-session-BatchSingle184_11Jan02_1001AM_17708.txt
  cz-session-BatchSingle185_11Jan02_1001AM_20029.txt
 
 but when I issue ls -ltr cz* , I am getting arg list
 too long error. I 70,000-80,000 files that needs to
 be
 removed from the directory.
 
 I cant list them using ls -ltr *session* as this
 string may change. I have to identify the files that
 srart with cz only.
 
 can somebody through somelight on this.
 
 thanx in advance,
 srinivas
 
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Re: ORACLE UP/DOWN scripts

2002-08-30 Thread Markus Reger

hi
we use on sunos 5.8 the same scripts as on linux - as we use on all
*nices the bash.
kr mr

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Hi
Does some one have DB down script on Sun solaris.I mean to say if
instance 
down I will get page .
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Configuring 734 and 817 on same machine.

2002-08-30 Thread Denham Eva
Title: Configuring 734 and 817 on same machine.





Hello Gurus,


Does anyone have a link to a resource which describes the Installation and configuration of Oracle 734 and Oracle 817 on the same Windows 2000 machine.

The configuration of the listeners is my main concern. 


Any help on this is very much appreciated.
Regards
Denham Eva






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Re: Standby with TAF config. - How to ?

2002-08-30 Thread zhu chao

oraora  oraora,
If you want to implement TAF, you have to use OPS/RAC. and you application 
must be written via OCI when connect to database. For standby to be in recover, it 
take some minutes to recover the final redo log from the primary site, which maybe 
need human interaction.
Standby is mainly a backup policy and disaster recovery policy, if you want to 
use that level HA, i suggest your use OS HA solution like VCS,HACMP etc, or OPS/RAC.   
  



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=== 2002-08-29 22:28:00 ,you wrote£º===

Guys ,

1# Can Standby database be configured for TAF ?
2# If so , when the Primary DB fails will the client application
be automatically failed over to Standby DB ?
3# And thereafter can the client application proceed it's process
without any manual intervention ?

I have read the Standby Database - Concepts and Admin. manual.
What i am not clear about is  how to configure Standby DB with TAF
so that least manual intervention is required ?
Can anyone of u help me ? Any good resource for the same ?

TIA.
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Re: Oracle 9i Rel1 on SuSE 8.0 Pro

2002-08-30 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev

I have several Suse 7.2 running fine with ReiserFS and Ext2.
Recently, I've got a problem with RAM (hanging several times) I have changed
the ram, but yesterday I have found a couple of corrupted blocks in one
database, so I guess memory could possibly be an issue. Are there any other
negative symptoms?
As a recomendation - move to SuSe 7.2 (if possible) and get suport for 9iR1,
or beter to SLES.

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 I thought of the hard drive and took it back to the store and got another
 one.  I had the same problem with Rel2 and 9iAS Rel1 does not work with
Rel2
 of DB and I need it for my project.

 Could memory problems cause this problem?

 Joe

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 My first suggestion would be to try release 2.

 Second suggestion is that your new hard drive is defective.

 ltiu

 Joe A Cairns wrote:

 Help!!!
 
 I have load the oracle 9i Database on my Linux Server running SuSE 8.0
Pro.
 
 The installation went fine, but the database keeps getting corrupted data
 blocks.
 
 Does anybody know why this keeps happing.  I had thing running before and
 then I had a disk drive crash. 30.7 gig drive).
 
 replaced the drive, reinstalled everything and now keep getting corrupted
 datablock problems.
 
 Of course Oracle won't give me any support because of the OS version.  I
 logged a TAR and they closed it.
 
 Has anyone else seen this problem;
 
 Here is my Config:
  AMD XP 1800+
  MSI K7 Turbo2 Montherboard
  1.2 GIG Memory
  80 GIG Drive
   30 GIG Drive
  SuSE 8.0 Pro
  Oracle 9.0.1 (RDBMS)
 
 Thanks in advance for your help.
 
 Joe Cairns
 
 
 



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RE: Letting users kill their own sessions

2002-08-30 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
Title: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle



Patrice,

I 
think I posted this not so long ago but I have this one and it works. 


Regards  HTH

Lee

/***//* 
*//* Author: Lee 
Robertson 
*//* 
*//* Title: 
killsession.sql 
*//* 
*//* Date: 
19/04/01 
*//* 
*//* Description: Enable a non-DBA user to kill their *//* 
own session but not the current one. 
*//* 
*//***/

create or replace procedure 
killsession (v_sid IN number, v_serial IN number, v_puser IN varchar2) as 

v_statement varchar2(200); 
v_user varchar2(10);v_cursor_name integer; v_rows_processed integer; 


BEGIN 

dbms_output.enable(1); -- Set 
up output buffer

-- get the details to 
kill

select username into v_user from 
v$session where v_sid = sid and v_serial = serial# and v_puser = 
user;

-- format the statement to 
run

v_statement := 'alter system kill 
session '''||v_sid||','||v_serial||; 

-- set up cursor and run the 
staement

v_cursor_name := 
dbms_sql.open_cursor; dbms_sql.parse(v_cursor_name, v_statement, 
dbms_sql.v7); 

v_rows_processed := 
dbms_sql.execute(v_cursor_name); dbms_sql.close_cursor(v_cursor_name); 

-- exception section where details 
entered are incorrect

exception 
when 
no_data_found 
then 
dbms_output.put_line('One or more of your parameters is wrong. Please Check again'); 
when 
others 
then 
raise;

-- end of procedure

end; /

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  Does 
  anyone have a dynamic script that would let users kill their own 
  sessions?
  
  I 
  found something in Metalink but the script doesn't appear to verify whether 
  the PID and SID supplied belongs to the person executing the procedure... not 
  ideal.
  
  Thanks.
  
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Re: Configuring 734 and 817 on same machine.

2002-08-30 Thread Jack van Zanen

Hi,


My guess would be (from memory)

Install Oracle 7 first because it wants to be in the first Oracle home
than 8i and configure the listener of 8i to listen for all database
connections on the machine.

I once tried to install Oracle 7 after I had installed 8i and had to fiddle
with the registry to get it to install and work properly

Jack


   

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Hello Gurus,


Does anyone have a link to a resource which describes the Installation and
configuration of Oracle 734 and Oracle 817 on the same Windows 2000
machine.


The configuration of the listeners is my main concern.


Any help on this is very much appreciated.
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Re: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle

2002-08-30 Thread Yechiel Adar

In NT and win2000 you can set Os priorities to the different tasks.
If you have the sane facility on aix you can give this db a lower priority
so whenever the other databases will need CPU they will get it.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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 Kevin,
 Thanks for your input.
 Just to clarify;  I only want to control this
 one database. I want to limit its resources
 so it does not impact the other 4 databases on
 the box. So, in that case would resource
 manager be beneficial ?
 Also, besides profiles, and resource manager,
 does anyone know of any other tools provided
 by Oracle which would limit resources ?
 Or, any 3rd party tools that my be beneficial ?

 I thank everyone for providing their input;
 it's much appreciated.


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 Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 5:23 PM


 I don't think Resource Manager is going to do the trick here (I just read
 about it over the last week while preparing for OCP exam 4).  Resource
 Manager would work great for a single database but Ed is trying to divvy
up
 resources between 5 databases.

 I don't have any good solution.  I suppose if everything running on this
one
 database was less important than anything on the other 4 databases, you
 could renice the one database.  I think that would be ok provided all
 components of the one database were at the same nice level.

 Kevin Kennedy
 First Point Energy Corporation

 If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

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 -Original Message-
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 Subject: controlling CPU usage through Oracle


 Hi,
 I'm looking for a way to control CPU usage of
 particular queries on a database.
 After exploring, and implementing ways of optimizing the code,
 these queries can run anywhere from 45 seconds
 to 2 minutes.
 This database is 1 of 5 on this box. So, although it's important
 to build effective queries, it's also important in this
 environment that these queries do not impact the other
 4 databases.
 What I want to do is place a limit on CPU usage
 without terminating the query. I've looked at profiles
 with the cpu_per_call and cpu_per_session settings.
 I have never used profiles, but from what I understand,
 these will kill the session once they reach a threshold.
 I'm also looking at database resource management.
 This may be more appropriate for this situation.
 Has anyone used this, and if so what are you
 experiences ? Would you recommend it ?
 Would the only way to control CPU usage on this
 box, be through the operating system ?

 I welcome any suggestions. I appreciate your time.

 The environment is Oracle 8.1.7.2, AIX 4.3.3.

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RE: Letting users kill their own sessions

2002-08-30 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Title: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle



very 
funny, but I asked because sometimes developers create 'zombies' on our UNIX 
server.

Why 
would being chained to a desk that is connected to Oracle be punishment? I 
don't understand...
; )
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  -Original Message-From: Rodd Holman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:54 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Letting users kill their own sessionsFor the really 
  radical there is the 1-finger salute... ;-) Rodd Holman On 
  Thu, 2002-08-29 at 16:37, Fink, Dan wrote: 
  I prefer the Microsoft 
3-fingered salute... 
-Original 
  Message- From: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Letting users kill their own sessions 
  Yes, the process is called "logging out" and 
  I normally let them do that. Keeping them tied to their computers would 
  be a cruel and unusual punishment, against the company policy and probably 
  illegal. 
  -Original 
Message- From: Boivin, Patrice J 
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PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
Subject: Letting users kill their own sessions 
Does anyone have a dynamic script that 
would let users kill their own sessions?  I found something in Metalink but the 
script doesn't appear to verify whether the PID and SID supplied belongs 
to the person executing the procedure... not ideal. 
 
Thanks. 
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RE: working with datafile 2Gb in HadHat 7.3

2002-08-30 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

I read something about Oracle on Windows not being able to extend past the
2G limit, but haven't verified.

I believe it has to do with Oracle on Windows, not windows or hardware.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
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Ltiu,

Intel hardware can only handle 2Gb files sizes max.

Are you sure?  I don't think that's true.



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It doesn't really matter what OS you have. Intel hardware can only 
handle 2Gb files sizes max. Even if the hardware can support large 
files, it is still recommended that you do not have large datafiles. You

need to partition your tablespaces into multiple datafiles. This 
facilitates backups and restores and you can put  the datafiles into 
different hard drives increasing i/o performance.

ltiu

Adriano Freire wrote:

Ok ltiu,
REDHAT 7.3 kernel-2.4.18-10 

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What's HadHat 7.3?

A new Linux distro pattered after RedHat 7.3?

ltiu

Adriano Freire wrote:



Gurus,
 
I've some problems with datafiles  2Gb in HadHat 7.3. I'm using 
datafile type ext3 and
when i try create a datafile with 2Gb the database is catching.
Anybody have the some problem?
any suggestion?
 
Thanks
 
Adriano.
  



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Re: new email address

2002-08-30 Thread Ruth Gramolini

Does that mean you didn't get my email about presenting my rman paper?

Ruth
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Oracle Parner Network

2002-08-30 Thread Magaliff, Bill

Hey all,

While reviewing our annual maintenance agreement ($5,000) and considering an
additional $30K license purchase, our savvy network admin suggested we look
into Oracle's Partner Network.  After some research, phone conversations,
and pouring through the license agreement with a fine-tooth comb, I realized
that's it's a win-win for us.  Instead of spending $35,000 on renewals and
new license purchases, we spend $2,000 to join OPN as a member associate and
then pay $39.20 per seat for dev support (equivalent to our current Silver
level) on the db suite.  Yes, the catch is you have to be using Oracle
solely for dev (and not for internally deployed apps that run your business)
but it has turned out to be a no-brainer moneywise.

Curious if anyone else out there has had experience with this . . . not that
I'm sceptical or anything, but we tried to find a catch and couldn't!  

thanks

bill
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Re: ADV OT: Oracle-dba.com domain for sale

2002-08-30 Thread Joe Testa

hahahah, now thats a kewl domain.

joe


Post, Ethan wrote:

I would but I got to put some money down on www.phatdba.com

Ethan Post
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If you're interested, email me for the asking price.

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RE: IMPORT sloooowwww

2002-08-30 Thread Ball, Terry

Bingo.  It was the grants, as I had tried w/o indexes/constraints.  There
were some 1800+ grants per table.  With grants set to no, an import which
creates constraints and indexes is flying.

It has been so long since I worked with a product where each user is given
direct grants rather than thru a role, that I forgot that it was possible to
have that many grants on a single table

Thanks again.


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and indexes, too!  do the indexes, constraints, grants, etc after the table
data imports!

-bill

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Creating grants and synonyms on each table?

Cheers
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 In looking at how long it takes, the table imports in a second or
less, but
 it takes 3 minutes + to start the import of the next table.  I'm not
sure
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select count(*) = 0, select /*+ full(a) */ count(*) = 5227 ?

2002-08-30 Thread Bernard, Gilbert

On 
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.2.0 - 64bit Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
CORE8.1.7.0.0   Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

I got a stange result and I wish to find an explanation.
Look
I did 
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement ;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
 0

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=2 Card=1)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN) OF 'MVT_ID_LOT_IDX' (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=2
Card=24507)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
288  db block gets
120  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
203  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed

I tryed with and order by on the first column_name, I got the exact number
of rows in this table, why ?
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement order by
IDENTIF_PRODUIT_COMPTABLE;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
  5227

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=19 Card=1 Bytes=17)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'CED_INFO_MOUVEMENT' (Cost=19 Card=24507
Bytes=416619)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
116  db block gets
246  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
206  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  1  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed


I tryed vith HINTS FULL and I got  5227 rows.

Regards.


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dblink_encrypt_login  FALSE
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fixed_date
gc_defer_time 10
gc_files_to_locks
gc_releasable_locks   0
gc_rollback_locks 

Re: Serving BLOB from the database

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Cave

At 09:43 AM 8/29/2002, Manavendra Gupta wrote:
I'm sure there has been discussion in the past about the same, but I'm 
more interested in the feasibility/performance of serving images (stored 
as BLOB) from the database.

Is there a reason that you're not using interMedia here?  interMedia is 
pretty well optimized for doing exactly this.

1. For a large multi-tier application (client, web-tier, application, 
database), with about 5 million records upfront (possibly an image 
associated with each of them), about 300 concurrent users expected, would 
the gurus recommend serving images from the database?
 1.1 The images will not be served in bulk, but one per request (only 
 on the details page would the user get to see the image).

I certainly would want to do it that way.  From a development point of 
view, it's a lot easier to deal with 5 million rows of data in a table 
somewhere than a file system with 5 million images.  No worries about how 
the images are names, how they're stored (most O/S's limit the number of 
files you can have per directory, the number of subdirectories you can 
have, etc).  Plus, you've got everything in one place for backups.

2. Wouldn't it be better to serve images from a dedicated box, at the web 
tier? This way I could just farm the web-tier and wouldn't have to worry 
about the images much?

If you use something like webCache on the middle tier, that may accomplish 
much of what you're after, keeping a the data in the database.

3. Is serving images from the database scalable?

Yes.  I've seen benchmarks that had interMedia faster than a standard file 
system in a three-tier configuration.  Slightly slower in a two-tier 
configuration, but certainly scaling.

Justin Cave

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Re: Identify unused indexes in 8i ?

2002-08-30 Thread Mladen Gogala

Yes, you are right. I forgot to mention monitoring, 
On 2002.08.30 01:23 Khedr, Waleed wrote:
   Or when you are done moving these suspected indexes to a new Tablespace,
 you can monitor the read/write statistics for the files in that Tablespace
 (v$filestat).
 
 Another idea is to put the indexes in the unusable state and wait for an
 error when the index gets used.
 
 Regards,
 
 Waleed
 
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 Sent: 8/30/02 12:53 AM
 
 Your methodology is sound and bulletproof, but is also fairly
 effort-intensive and
 time-consuming. Another trick is to make a list of all indexes that are
 suspected for
 not being used, move them all into the same, otherwise empty, tablespace
 and take the 
 whole tablespace offline. If any of the existing jobs slow down
 significantly, then
 you have disabled a wrong index. It is a gun slinger method but if you
 are not going
 to do a significant business damage, you might be able to afford it. 
 The method that I use is to find documentation for the project that has
 caused the index
 to be created. Trace files and performance analysis must be attached to
 the project documentation.
 If the index was used at one time, I examine the programs that have been
 using it and
 run them with SQL_TRACE on (or 10046, level 1). If the index is no
 longer used, I discard
 it. I have retired quite a few tables and indexes since the start of all
 that HIPAA frenzy.
 Good documentation and a strict process of applying changes to the
 production database,
 with a sign-off required for every step along the way is of paramount
 importance for keeping
 track of objects in your database.
 
 
 On 2002.08.29 17:37 Cary Millsap wrote:
  I expect that the answer is probably that an unused index is any
 index
  that the Oracle query optimizer will never choose for any SQL
 statement
  in the entire application.
  
  One way to compute whether an index is unused is:
  
  1. Extract SQL from your application source code (which is nice
 because
  you can do it all at once without polling) and from v$sql (which you
  must do if your apps generate SQL dynamically).
  
  2. Compute the current* execution plan for each statement using
 explain
  plan. (*The reason I say current is that many input factors can
 change
  these plans, including schema changes, db or instance statistics
  changes, init.ora changes, and application code changes.)
  
  3. For each index in your application, determine whether that index is
  referenced in any plan generated in step 2. Any index that is never
  referenced is almost certain to be unused.
  
  We have built a tool under the name Hotsos Project Laredo
  (www.hotsos.com/products/laredo) that does steps 1 and 2. The
 difficult
  trick is collecting *all* of your SQL. The method of just looking at
  object I/O statistics for a given index, for example, isn't reliable
  because it is only rearward-looking in time. Just because an index
  hasn't been used since instance startup doesn't mean that it won't be
  used tomorrow.
  
  Making Laredo do step 3 would probably not be nearly as difficult as
 the
  work we've done perfecting steps 1 and 2. Let me know if you're
  interested. Improving our tools is part of how we make a living...
  
  
  Cary Millsap
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  What are unused indexes? 
  
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   All,
   
   Is there a way to identify unused indexes in Oracle
   8i. I know that it is easy to check with 9i. I would
   appreciate if you could share your experience (or
   ideas) with me.
   
   Thanks,
   Bob
   
   
   
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Re: Standby with TAF config. - How to ?

2002-08-30 Thread Justin Cave

At 02:33 AM 8/30/2002, you wrote:
oraora  oraora,
 If you want to implement TAF, you have to use OPS/RAC. and you 
 application must be written via OCI when connect to database.

Your application doesn't necessarily have to be written in OCI to use TAF, 
but whatever layer eventually makes the OCI calls does.  Oracle's ODBC 
driver, for example, implements TAF support, so any ODBC application which 
uses the Oracle driver will get TAF support.  Other Oracle API's likely do 
the same.






Regards
zhu chao
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=== 2002-08-29 22:28:00 ,you wrote£º===

 Guys ,
 
 1# Can Standby database be configured for TAF ?
 2# If so , when the Primary DB fails will the client application
 be automatically failed over to Standby DB ?
 3# And thereafter can the client application proceed it's process
 without any manual intervention ?
 
 I have read the Standby Database - Concepts and Admin. manual.
 What i am not clear about is  how to configure Standby DB with TAF
 so that least manual intervention is required ?
 Can anyone of u help me ? Any good resource for the same ?
 
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RE: Letting users kill their own sessions

2002-08-30 Thread Robson, Peter
Title: RE: Re:RE: Re[2]: controlling CPU usage through Oracle



I 
quite agree with Patrice - and what's more, 'zombies' is the exact right word 
for them !

peter
edinburgh

ps - I 
did get a laugh out of the exchange too 


  -Original Message-From: Boivin, Patrice J 
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  RE: Letting users kill their own sessions
  very 
  funny, but I asked because sometimes developers create 'zombies' on our UNIX 
  server.
  
  Why 
  would being chained to a desk that is connected to Oracle be punishment? 
  I don't understand...
  ; )
  Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) 
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ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Letting users kill their own 
sessionsFor the really radical there is the 1-finger 
salute... ;-) Rodd Holman On Thu, 2002-08-29 at 16:37, Fink, 
Dan wrote: 
I prefer the Microsoft 
  3-fingered salute... 
  -Original 
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ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Letting users kill their own sessions 
Yes, the process is called "logging out" 
and I normally let them do that. Keeping them tied to their computers would 
be a cruel and unusual punishment, against the company policy and probably 
illegal. 
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  Subject: Letting users kill their own sessions 
  Does anyone have a dynamic script that 
  would let users kill their own sessions?  I found something in Metalink but the 
  script doesn't appear to verify whether the PID and SID supplied   belongs to the person executing the procedure... not 
  ideal.  Thanks. Regards, Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified 
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Re: Table Locks

2002-08-30 Thread Alan Davey

Thanks Rachel.

I spent the train ride reading the chapters on Instance Tuning and Dynamic Performance 
Views hoping to find something, but no such luck.  I learned a lot of other useful 
things though, so it wasn't a waste of time.

Jacques, v$locked_object shows the table, but I already knew which table was locked.  
I was hoping to find the offending SQL statement.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Regards,
-- 

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On 8/29/2002 10:43 PM, Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure it's possible to find the locking SQL and SID once the
session issues other SQL statements.

I spent a lot of time a few years back attempting to find it, without
success. I got the people at both Platinum Technology and Savant 
(yes,
I'm showing my age here) to try to find it as well, figuring their
technical people were better at this sort of thing than I am... no
luck.

I don't think Oracle stores the statement and who issued it, just 
the
rollback info necessary and the fact that there is a lock.


--- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I've noticed some locks on various tables and I'm trying to figure
 out which DML statements are causing the locks.  In this example, 
the
 lock isn't being released because the developer forgot to include 
a
 commit/rollback.
 
 If I look at v$session which is causing the lock and query v$sqlarea
 with  the values in sql_address and prev_sql_addr, I only see select
 statements that were issued after the DML (in this case a delete). 
 I
 can query 
 v$sqlarea with the locked table name and find the delete statement,
 but how do I link this back to the sid that issued it?  Also, what 
if
 there had been multiple DML statements by this user, how would 
I know
 which was the first/last one executed?
 
 I'm RTFMing, but so far no luck.  Any help would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 
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RE: Unix scripting need help

2002-08-30 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Unix scripts is one thing I don't worry much and am taking my own time to
learn those with Perl. We got a fantastic bunch of Unix admins who are just
waiting for challenges and always deliver.

It is bad (for me) and good (that I can spend more time on Oracle issues
like chasing OWS personnel and explaining them that that feature is indeed a
bug etc etc).

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RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.  
The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.

Tom Mercadante
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No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they
are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the
alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$
products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my home
machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in
my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea of
getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my
current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have
not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or
too lazy to write one 8-)

To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people choose
to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

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So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are
doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?

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You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the right
choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can
make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice
and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a viable
alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management).  In
the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
been finding that more difficult lately.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

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Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.

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Hi,

   I recieved an email today as follows:

Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD

Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
One or more attachments were deleted
Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.


Here is the repsonse from my guys:

It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
diamonddata.com
and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
email.
It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you,
in
which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on
it's
way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about the possible of
virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan
anyway. See what they can find.



  




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RE: working with datafile 2Gb in HadHat 7.3

2002-08-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

It was a bug on windows - with auto extend on and crossing 4Gb filesize.

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I read something about Oracle on Windows not being able to extend past the
2G limit, but haven't verified.

I believe it has to do with Oracle on Windows, not windows or hardware.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin  Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique 
Maritimes Region, DFO  | Région des Maritimes, MPO

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Subject:RE: working with datafile  2Gb in HadHat 7.3


Ltiu,

Intel hardware can only handle 2Gb files sizes max.

Are you sure?  I don't think that's true.



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It doesn't really matter what OS you have. Intel hardware can only 
handle 2Gb files sizes max. Even if the hardware can support large 
files, it is still recommended that you do not have large datafiles. You

need to partition your tablespaces into multiple datafiles. This 
facilitates backups and restores and you can put  the datafiles into 
different hard drives increasing i/o performance.

ltiu

Adriano Freire wrote:

Ok ltiu,
REDHAT 7.3 kernel-2.4.18-10 

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What's HadHat 7.3?

A new Linux distro pattered after RedHat 7.3?

ltiu

Adriano Freire wrote:



Gurus,
 
I've some problems with datafiles  2Gb in HadHat 7.3. I'm using 
datafile type ext3 and
when i try create a datafile with 2Gb the database is catching.
Anybody have the some problem?
any suggestion?
 
Thanks
 
Adriano.
  



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Estimate sample percent question

2002-08-30 Thread Brooks, Russ




Hi,
I've run across an anomaly while updating 
statistics. It appears that the sample size specified by the analyze 
statement is not producing the results I'd hoped for. By my calculations, 
the 5% estimate has a sample size of 1%, the 10% uses 1.6%, and the 40% uses 5%. 
Are there any known causes for this type of effect? Has anyone else encountered this before? I'm 
wondering if it has to do with the way the first few blocks are filled. 
I'm seeing this for a number of tables. 
Thanks, 
Russ Brooks sapsan:SANanalyze table bnka delete statistics; 
Table analyzed. sapsan:SANanalyze table bnka estimate 
statistics sample 5 percent; Table analyzed. sapsan:SAN@s 
TABLE_NAME SAMPLE_SIZE -- --- 
BNKA 580 sapsan:SANanalyze table bnka delete statistics; 
Table analyzed. sapsan:SANanalyze table bnka estimate 
statistics sample 10 percent; Table analyzed. sapsan:SANget 
s 1 select table_name, sample_size from user_tables 2* where table_name 
= 'BNKA' TABLE_NAME SAMPLE_SIZE -- 
--- BNKA 931 
sapsan:SANanalyze table bnka delete statistics; Table 
analyzed. sapsan:SANanalyze table bnka estimate statistics sample 40 
percent; Table analyzed. sapsan:SANget s 1 select 
table_name, sample_size from user_tables 2* where table_name = 'BNKA' 
sapsan:SANr TABLE_NAME SAMPLE_SIZE 
-- --- BNKA 2996 sapsan:SANanalyze 
table bnka compute statistics; Table analyzed. sapsan:SANget 
s 1 select table_name, sample_size from user_tables 2* where table_name 
= 'BNKA' sapsan:SANr TABLE_NAME SAMPLE_SIZE 
-- --- BNKA 57734 



RE: Oracle Parner Network

2002-08-30 Thread Shaw John-P55297

We are OPN members - we have one database for our internal use and pay full
price for it and support. In addition we have a bunch of purely development
databases - on differing platforms (linux, solaris) that we download and use
for no additional fee's.

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Hey all,

While reviewing our annual maintenance agreement ($5,000) and considering an
additional $30K license purchase, our savvy network admin suggested we look
into Oracle's Partner Network.  After some research, phone conversations,
and pouring through the license agreement with a fine-tooth comb, I realized
that's it's a win-win for us.  Instead of spending $35,000 on renewals and
new license purchases, we spend $2,000 to join OPN as a member associate and
then pay $39.20 per seat for dev support (equivalent to our current Silver
level) on the db suite.  Yes, the catch is you have to be using Oracle
solely for dev (and not for internally deployed apps that run your business)
but it has turned out to be a no-brainer moneywise.

Curious if anyone else out there has had experience with this . . . not that
I'm sceptical or anything, but we tried to find a catch and couldn't!  

thanks

bill
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RE: Table Locks

2002-08-30 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

I created following two views for developer's use and so far there have been
no complaints ..

CREATE OR REPLACE FORCE VIEW SYSTEM.DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS 
(OBJECT_NAME, SESSION_ID, ORACLE_USERNAME, OS_USER_NAME, SQL_ACTIONS, 
 LOCK_MODE) AS 
SELECT DO.object_name, lo.SESSION_ID, lo.oracle_username, lo.OS_USER_NAME,
   DECODE(locked_mode,
  1, 'SELECT',
  2, 'SELECT FOR UPDATE / LOCK ROW SHARE',
  3, 'INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE/LOCK ROW EXCLUSIVE',
  4, 'CREATE INDEX/LOCK SHARE',
  5, 'LOCK SHARE ROW EXCLUSIVE',
  6, 'ALTER TABLE/DROP TABLE/DROP INDEX/TRUNCATE TABLE/LOCK
EXCLUSIVE') sql_actions,
   DECODE(locked_mode, 1, 'NULL', 2, 'SS - SUB SHARE', 3, 'SX - SUB
EXCLUSIVE',
  4, 'S - SHARE', 5, 'SSX - SHARE/SUB EXCLUSIVE', 6, 'X -
EXCLUSIVE') Lock_mode
  FROM sys.V_$LOCKED_OBJECT lo, DB$OBJECTS DO
 WHERE DO.object_id = lo.object_id;

CREATE PUBLIC SYNONYM DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS FOR SYSTEM.DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS;

GRANT SELECT ON  SYSTEM.DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS TO PUBLIC;


and 

CREATE OR REPLACE FORCE VIEW SYSTEM.DB$LOCKS 
(OBJ_OWNER, OBJ_NAME, OBJ_TYPE, OBJ_ROWID, DB_USER, 
 SID, LOCK_TYPE, ROW_WAIT_FILE#, ROW_WAIT_BLOCK#, ROW_WAIT_ROW#) AS 
SELECT owner obj_owner,
   object_name obj_name,
   object_type  obj_type,
   dbms_rowid.rowid_create(1, row_wait_obj#, ROW_WAIT_FILE#,
   ROW_WAIT_BLOCK#,ROW_WAIT_ROW#) obj_rowid,
   a.username db_user, a.sid sid, a.TYPE lock_type,
   a.row_wait_file#, a.row_wait_block#, a.row_wait_row#
  FROM DB$OBJECTS,
   (SELECT a.username, a.sid, a.row_wait_obj#, a.ROW_WAIT_FILE#,
   a.ROW_WAIT_BLOCK#, a.ROW_WAIT_ROW#, b.TYPE
  FROM sys.V_$SESSION a, sys.V_$LOCK b
 WHERE a.username IS NOT NULL
   AND a.row_wait_obj#  -1
   AND a.sid = b.sid
   AND b.TYPE IN ('TX','TM')
   ) a
 WHERE object_id = a.row_wait_obj#;

CREATE PUBLIC SYNONYM DB$LOCKS FOR SYSTEM.DB$LOCKS;

GRANT SELECT ON  SYSTEM.DB$LOCKS TO PUBLIC;


DB$OBJECTs is a snapshot of DBA_OBJECTS, it is too slow to select from
DBA_OBJECTS, so I created a snapshot that is refreshed on a daily basis, it
works fine for me.

Hope this helps some. As others have mentioned, currently locked rows are
very difficult to find, what you can find though is the rowid for which a
lock is requested. 

Raj
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc.

QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an art!


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Thanks Rachel.

I spent the train ride reading the chapters on Instance Tuning and Dynamic
Performance Views hoping to find something, but no such luck.  I learned a
lot of other useful things though, so it wasn't a waste of time.

Jacques, v$locked_object shows the table, but I already knew which table was
locked.  I was hoping to find the offending SQL statement.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Regards,
-- 

Alan Davey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
212-604-0200  x106


On 8/29/2002 10:43 PM, Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure it's possible to find the locking SQL and SID once the
session issues other SQL statements.

I spent a lot of time a few years back attempting to find it, without
success. I got the people at both Platinum Technology and Savant 
(yes,
I'm showing my age here) to try to find it as well, figuring their
technical people were better at this sort of thing than I am... no
luck.

I don't think Oracle stores the statement and who issued it, just 
the
rollback info necessary and the fact that there is a lock.


--- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I've noticed some locks on various tables and I'm trying to figure
 out which DML statements are causing the locks.  In this example, 
the
 lock isn't being released because the developer forgot to include 
a
 commit/rollback.
 
 If I look at v$session which is causing the lock and query v$sqlarea
 with  the values in sql_address and prev_sql_addr, I only see select
 statements that were issued after the DML (in this case a delete). 
 I
 can query 
 v$sqlarea with the locked table name and find the delete statement,
 but how do I link this back to the sid that issued it?  Also, what 
if
 there had been multiple DML statements by this user, how would 
I know
 which was the first/last one executed?
 
 I'm RTFMing, but so far no luck.  Any help would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 
 Alan Davey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 212-604-0200  x106
 
 
 
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RE: select count(*) = 0, select /*+ full(a) */ count(*) = 5227 ?

2002-08-30 Thread Lord, David - CSG

Bernard

I think this may be a bug in early versions of 8.1.7. I don't know the
number, but I had a similar problem recently.  Its to do with whether the
query is scanning an index or not.  Try forcing the query to do a full scan:
-

SQL select /*full(ced_info_mouvement)*/ count(*) from ced_info_mouvement;

The only solution I found was to upgrade to 8.1.7.3+

HTH
David Lord

 -Original Message-
 From: Bernard, Gilbert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 30 August 2002 14:23
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: select count(*) = 0, select /*+ full(a) */ count(*) = 5227 ?
 
 
 On 
 Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.2.0 - 64bit Production
 PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
 CORE8.1.7.0.0   Production
 TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
 NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production
 
 I got a stange result and I wish to find an explanation.
 Look
 I did 
 SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement ;
  cls  COUNT(*)
 --
  0
 
 1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.
 
 
 Execution Plan
 --
   0
 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=2 Card=1)
 
 
   1  0
   SORT (AGGREGATE)
 
 
   2  1
 PARTITION RANGE (ALL)
 
 
   3  2
   PARTITION HASH (ALL)
 
 
   4  3
 INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN) OF 'MVT_ID_LOT_IDX' 
 (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=2
 Card=24507)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Statistics
 --
   0  recursive calls
 288  db block gets
 120  consistent gets
   0  physical reads
   0  redo size
 203  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
 248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
   2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
   0  sorts (memory)
   0  sorts (disk)
 1 rows processed
 
 I tryed with and order by on the first column_name, I got the 
 exact number
 of rows in this table, why ?
 SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement order by
 IDENTIF_PRODUIT_COMPTABLE;
  cls  COUNT(*)
 --
   5227
 
 1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.
 
 
 Execution Plan
 --
   0
 SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=19 Card=1 Bytes=17)
 
 
   1  0
   SORT (AGGREGATE)
 
 
   2  1
 PARTITION RANGE (ALL)
 
 
   3  2
   PARTITION HASH (ALL)
 
 
   4  3
 TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'CED_INFO_MOUVEMENT' (Cost=19 
 Card=24507
 Bytes=416619)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Statistics
 --
   0  recursive calls
 116  db block gets
 246  consistent gets
   0  physical reads
   0  redo size
 206  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
 248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
   2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
   1  sorts (memory)
   0  sorts (disk)
 1 rows processed
 
 
 I tryed vith HINTS FULL and I got  5227 rows.
 
 Regards.
 
 
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 -
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 always_anti_join  NESTED_LOOPS
 always_semi_join  standard
 aq_tm_processes   0
 audit_file_dest   ?/rdbms/audit
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 background_core_dump  partial
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 /sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk1/ctrl11sqcedi.ctl,
  
 /sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk2/ctrl12sqcedi.ctl,
  
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 db_block_size 8192
 db_domain
 db_file_direct_io_count   64
 db_file_multiblock_read_count 32
 db_file_name_convert
 db_files 

RE: select count(*) = 0, select /*+ full(a) */ count(*) = 5227 ?

2002-08-30 Thread Naveen Nahata

Rebuild your index and try again

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
?


On 
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.2.0 - 64bit Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
CORE8.1.7.0.0   Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

I got a stange result and I wish to find an explanation.
Look
I did 
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement ;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
 0

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=2 Card=1)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN) OF 'MVT_ID_LOT_IDX' (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=2
Card=24507)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
288  db block gets
120  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
203  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed

I tryed with and order by on the first column_name, I got the exact number
of rows in this table, why ?
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement order by
IDENTIF_PRODUIT_COMPTABLE;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
  5227

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=19 Card=1 Bytes=17)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'CED_INFO_MOUVEMENT' (Cost=19 Card=24507
Bytes=416619)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
116  db block gets
246  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
206  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  1  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed


I tryed vith HINTS FULL and I got  5227 rows.

Regards.


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-
-
active_instance_count
always_anti_join  NESTED_LOOPS
always_semi_join  standard
aq_tm_processes   0
audit_file_dest   ?/rdbms/audit
audit_trail   NONE
background_core_dump  partial
background_dump_dest  /sscedre/data/sqcedi/admin/log
backup_tape_io_slaves FALSE
bitmap_merge_area_size1048576
blank_trimmingFALSE
buffer_pool_keep
buffer_pool_recycle
commit_point_strength 1
compatible8.1.0
control_file_record_keep_time 7
control_files
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk1/ctrl11sqcedi.ctl,
 
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk2/ctrl12sqcedi.ctl,
 
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk3/ctrl13sqcedi.ctl

core_dump_dest?/dbs
cpu_count 4
create_bitmap_area_size   8388608
cursor_sharingEXACT
cursor_space_for_time FALSE
db_block_buffers  3200
db_block_checking FALSE
db_block_checksum FALSE
db_block_lru_latches  2
db_block_max_dirty_target 3200
db_block_size 8192
db_domain
db_file_direct_io_count   64
db_file_multiblock_read_count 32
db_file_name_convert
db_files  500
dblink_encrypt_login  FALSE
db_name   sqcedi
dbwr_io_slaves0
db_writer_processes   1
disk_asynch_ioTRUE
distributed_transactions  23
dml_locks 500
enqueue_resources 5000
event 10262 trace name context
forever,level 4096
fast_start_io_target  3200
fast_start_parallel_rollback  LOW

RE: select count(*) = 0, select /*+ full(a) */ count(*) = 5227 ?

2002-08-30 Thread Seefelt, Beth


MVT_ID_LOT_IDX is corrupt?  Does rebuilding the index fix the problem?


-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:23 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
?


On 
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.2.0 - 64bit Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
CORE8.1.7.0.0   Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

I got a stange result and I wish to find an explanation.
Look
I did 
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement ;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
 0

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=2 Card=1)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN) OF 'MVT_ID_LOT_IDX' (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=2
Card=24507)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
288  db block gets
120  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
203  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed

I tryed with and order by on the first column_name, I got the exact number
of rows in this table, why ?
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement order by
IDENTIF_PRODUIT_COMPTABLE;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
  5227

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=19 Card=1 Bytes=17)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'CED_INFO_MOUVEMENT' (Cost=19 Card=24507
Bytes=416619)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
116  db block gets
246  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
206  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  1  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed


I tryed vith HINTS FULL and I got  5227 rows.

Regards.


NAME  VALUE
-
-
active_instance_count
always_anti_join  NESTED_LOOPS
always_semi_join  standard
aq_tm_processes   0
audit_file_dest   ?/rdbms/audit
audit_trail   NONE
background_core_dump  partial
background_dump_dest  /sscedre/data/sqcedi/admin/log
backup_tape_io_slaves FALSE
bitmap_merge_area_size1048576
blank_trimmingFALSE
buffer_pool_keep
buffer_pool_recycle
commit_point_strength 1
compatible8.1.0
control_file_record_keep_time 7
control_files
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk1/ctrl11sqcedi.ctl,
 
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk2/ctrl12sqcedi.ctl,
 
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk3/ctrl13sqcedi.ctl

core_dump_dest?/dbs
cpu_count 4
create_bitmap_area_size   8388608
cursor_sharingEXACT
cursor_space_for_time FALSE
db_block_buffers  3200
db_block_checking FALSE
db_block_checksum FALSE
db_block_lru_latches  2
db_block_max_dirty_target 3200
db_block_size 8192
db_domain
db_file_direct_io_count   64
db_file_multiblock_read_count 32
db_file_name_convert
db_files  500
dblink_encrypt_login  FALSE
db_name   sqcedi
dbwr_io_slaves0
db_writer_processes   1
disk_asynch_ioTRUE
distributed_transactions  23
dml_locks 500
enqueue_resources 5000
event 10262 trace name context
forever,level 4096
fast_start_io_target  3200

Re: Unix Question

2002-08-30 Thread Steven Lembark



-- Pawan Dalmia [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 My var partition is 99% full of which there are lot of files in /var/tmp
 directory.
 Can i delete this files ?

Probably. Older ones are a better bet:

cd /var/tmp;
find . -atime +7 -type f | xargs rm -f;

Question is what job leaves files behind in /var/tmp because
that needs to be changed.

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RE: ora-1017 invalid username/password when trying to login as internal

2002-08-30 Thread Bob Metelsky

 Oracle 8.1.6/WinNT
 
 I get ora-1017 invalid username/password when trying to 
 connect as internal.  I have recreated password file many 
 times to no avail. Usually this all I have had to do in the 
 past for this error. I have tried all combinations of 
 remote_login_passwordfile.  I was getting connected earlier. 
 I had to a shutdown but cannot get server up. Luckily it is a 
 relatively used development server.  Any ideas on how to correct?
 
After you create a new password file, stop and restart the  sid service
via oradim or through nt services

This happens here from time to time, not sure why, but the above works

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Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu




Next question is, how did this happen?

ltiu

Mercadante, Thomas F wrote:

  My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.  
The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they
are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the
alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$
products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my home
machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in
my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea of
getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my
current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have
not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or
too lazy to write one 8-)

To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people choose
to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are
doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the right
choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can
make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice
and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a viable
alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management).  In
the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
been finding that more difficult lately.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.

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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)


Hi,

	I recieved an email today as follows:

Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL

  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
  
  
Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL

  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
  
  
Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
One or more attachments were deleted
Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.


Here is the repsonse from my guys:

It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.

  
  diamonddata.com
and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
email.
It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you,
in
which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on
it's
way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about the possible of
virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan
anyway. See what they can find.
  
  


 


  
  


  






RE: arg list too long in unix

2002-08-30 Thread Steven Lembark



-- kommareddy sreenivasa [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi all,

 Is there something like,

 unix is unable to use commands like ls -ltr (sort etc)
 when there are huge number of files in a directory(may
 be thousands/millions).

 If yes, what is the limit and how to know it on sun
 solaris 2.8.

This is not an issue with the command, but the buffer used
by the O/S to store the comman line arguments. Standard
sizes are 4KB or 8KB (i.e., on page). If the command line
arg's exceed this size then the command cannot be started.

Classic case is a directory with too many files in it;
ls may work fine but ls * will blow up because the
shell's expanding * overflows the buffer.

If the file names are 500 char's long then you may have
problems with only 10 files in the directory [don't
laugh, I've seen it].

ls is partcularly bad about dealing with over-populated
dir's becuse it sorts the result, which can be expensive
in a 10 000 file diredtory; find does not sort anything
and is better suited to dealing with huge file lists.

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Re: IMPORT sloooowwww

2002-08-30 Thread Nuno Souto

Er.
You can use roles in Oracle as well?

Cheers
Nuno Souto
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- Original Message -

 It has been so long since I worked with a product where each user is
given
 direct grants rather than thru a role, that I forgot that it was
possible to
 have that many grants on a single table



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RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael

oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here

such lovely choices we have


--- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.  
 The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because
 they
 are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider
 the
 alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using
 M$
 products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
 alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my
 home
 machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be
 used in
 my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea
 of
 getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of
 my
 current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that
 I have
 not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too
 busy or
 too lazy to write one 8-)
 
 To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people
 choose
 to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.
 
 Kevin Kennedy
 First Point Energy Corporation
 
 If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products
 are
 doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the
 right
 choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they
 can
 make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult
 choice
 and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
 whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a
 viable
 alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). 
 In
 the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
 been finding that more difficult lately.
 
 Kevin Kennedy
 First Point Energy Corporation
 
 If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
 To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)
 
 
 Hi,
 
  I recieved an email today as follows:
 
 Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
 Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
 
 Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
 Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
 One or more attachments were deleted
 Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
 Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.
 
 
 Here is the repsonse from my guys:
 
 It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
 diamonddata.com
 and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
 email.
 It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to
 you,
 in
 which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked
 on
 it's
 way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about the possible
 of
 virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the
 scan
 anyway. See what they can find.
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
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RE: Standby with TAF config. - How to ?

2002-08-30 Thread Brian McGraw

Not all Oracle API's support TAF.  I know that the JDBC thin driver does
not support TAF, while the JDBC OCI driver does.

Brian

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Cave
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:48 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

At 02:33 AM 8/30/2002, you wrote:
oraora  oraora,
 If you want to implement TAF, you have to use OPS/RAC. and you

 application must be written via OCI when connect to database.

Your application doesn't necessarily have to be written in OCI to use
TAF, 
but whatever layer eventually makes the OCI calls does.  Oracle's ODBC 
driver, for example, implements TAF support, so any ODBC application
which 
uses the Oracle driver will get TAF support.  Other Oracle API's likely
do 
the same.






Regards
zhu chao
Eachnet DBA
86-21-32174588-667
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=== 2002-08-29 22:28:00 ,you wrote£º===

 Guys ,
 
 1# Can Standby database be configured for TAF ?
 2# If so , when the Primary DB fails will the client application
 be automatically failed over to Standby DB ?
 3# And thereafter can the client application proceed it's process
 without any manual intervention ?
 
 I have read the Standby Database - Concepts and Admin. manual.
 What i am not clear about is  how to configure Standby DB with TAF
 so that least manual intervention is required ?
 Can anyone of u help me ? Any good resource for the same ?
 
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Re: arg list too long in unix

2002-08-30 Thread Nuno Souto

The size of the buffer used to store parameters is actually
configurable in most Unix versions I've had a look at. 
Somewhere around 4K, from memory. Would be very surprised 
if it wasn't configurable in Solaris.  Would also be very 
surprised if you find one techo at Sun that knows how to 
change it.  It's actually one of the configurable kernel 
parameters, but you got to edit it directly.  Last time 
I did this was 6 years ago, so don't even dream of asking 
me to remember the details.  I've got enough trouble trying
to remember what I had for breakfast today!

Dig into the man pages, have a look at xargs command and 
follow the links from there.  That's how I came across 
this.  info(2) is also useful.

Cheers
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 If yes, what is the limit and how to know it on sun
 solaris 2.8.
 


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RE: select count(*) = 0, select /*+ full(a) */ count(*) = 5227 ?

2002-08-30 Thread Fink, Dan

There was a bug (still is in 8?) in 7.3 where a parallel index creation
would cause an index to be built with 0 entries. This would occur when the
index columns could be found in another index. The parallel master process
would get confused as to which index was the source and target. The end
result...an index with 0 entries.

I still fondly recall the panicked call from a developer 'I created an index
and it deleted all the rows!'.

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
5227
?



MVT_ID_LOT_IDX is corrupt?  Does rebuilding the index fix the problem?


-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:23 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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On 
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.2.0 - 64bit Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
CORE8.1.7.0.0   Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

I got a stange result and I wish to find an explanation.
Look
I did 
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement ;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
 0

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=2 Card=1)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN) OF 'MVT_ID_LOT_IDX' (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=2
Card=24507)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
288  db block gets
120  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
203  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed

I tryed with and order by on the first column_name, I got the exact number
of rows in this table, why ?
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement order by
IDENTIF_PRODUIT_COMPTABLE;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
  5227

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=19 Card=1 Bytes=17)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'CED_INFO_MOUVEMENT' (Cost=19 Card=24507
Bytes=416619)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
116  db block gets
246  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
206  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  1  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1   rows processed


I tryed vith HINTS FULL and I got  5227 rows.

Regards.


NAME  VALUE
-
-
active_instance_count
always_anti_join  NESTED_LOOPS
always_semi_join  standard
aq_tm_processes   0
audit_file_dest   ?/rdbms/audit
audit_trail   NONE
background_core_dump  partial
background_dump_dest  /sscedre/data/sqcedi/admin/log
backup_tape_io_slaves FALSE
bitmap_merge_area_size1048576
blank_trimmingFALSE
buffer_pool_keep
buffer_pool_recycle
commit_point_strength 1
compatible8.1.0
control_file_record_keep_time 7
control_files
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk1/ctrl11sqcedi.ctl,
 
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk2/ctrl12sqcedi.ctl,
 
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk3/ctrl13sqcedi.ctl

core_dump_dest?/dbs
cpu_count 4
create_bitmap_area_size   8388608
cursor_sharingEXACT
cursor_space_for_time FALSE
db_block_buffers  3200
db_block_checking FALSE
db_block_checksum FALSE
db_block_lru_latches  2
db_block_max_dirty_target 3200
db_block_size 8192
db_domain
db_file_direct_io_count   64
db_file_multiblock_read_count 32
db_file_name_convert
db_files  500

RE: IMPORT sloooowwww

2002-08-30 Thread Casey Dyke
Title: RE: IMPORT sl





i might add my 2c, even though the problem has been resolved. :-)


once upon a time, we had a 2g database that was taking a looong time to import. anyone ever heard of remedy?


did everything that has already been mentioned.


tracing revealed log file sync waits ... and lots of em' ... (and a few other log type waits ...)


we had long datatypes ... 


we were frustrated ... it's only 2 bloody gig after all ...


got rid of the 2nd member of each log group -- byebye log file parallel write waits ...
i then threw the remaining logs on /tmp. bingo. an import that was looking to take  24hrs suddenly flew. 


this was done in test a number of times before we did it on production. but we did put the logs on /tmp in prod. after the import we very quickly moved them off. :-)

the real issue was a poor io subsystem, but oracle's handling of longs during import did not help. never followed up on the internals of it. a document on metalink purporting to shed light on issues w/importing longs was ... not available to me (or something like that).

the moral here is, in _certain_ situations, odd little tricks like that can save the day. it ain't for everyone, but in our particular case, logs in memory allowed us to complete a nasty little rebuild (can you say 15 extents ...) for a very poorly configured db w/in the allocated time window.

cheers,


casey ...


-Original Message-
From: Ball, Terry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 5:23 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: IMPORT sl



Oracle 8.1.7 on Solaris 8


I am testing and upgrade from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7. Because the test server is
solaris 8, and I can't find the patches for 7 anymore, I am trying to
upgrade via an export and import. Besides, the DB is small - less than 2G.
The export was done with compress=n. There are 200+ tables to be imported.
It is taking 3+ minutes per table for the import, even on tables that have 0
rows. (Though it does take longer than that for the few tables with over
50K rows).


I have tried:
 1) Simple import.
 2) Import with indexes=n
 3) Import with table and constraints (but not indexes) pre-created and
indexes=n ignore=y
 4) All of the above with the buffer set to 8M (This actually slows the
import down, taking 5+ minutes per table).
 5) Increasing the sort_area_size for the DB to twice as large as it was
and trying the above.


In looking at how long it takes, the table imports in a second or less, but
it takes 3 minutes + to start the import of the next table. I'm not sure
what it is doing for 3 minutes after the table imports.


Does anyone have any ideas how I can speed this up? 10 hours to import a
2G. DB is extreme and unacceptable.


TIA.


Terry


Terry Ball, DBA
Birch Telecom
Work: 816-300-1335
FAX: 816-300-1800


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RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread April Wells

found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not
mistaken, too... 

-Original Message-
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here

such lovely choices we have


--- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.  
 The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because
 they
 are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider
 the
 alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using
 M$
 products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
 alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my
 home
 machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be
 used in
 my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea
 of
 getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of
 my
 current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that
 I have
 not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too
 busy or
 too lazy to write one 8-)
 
 To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people
 choose
 to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.
 
 Kevin Kennedy
 First Point Energy Corporation
 
 If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 
 So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products
 are
 doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the
 right
 choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they
 can
 make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult
 choice
 and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
 whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a
 viable
 alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). 
 In
 the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
 been finding that more difficult lately.
 
 Kevin Kennedy
 First Point Energy Corporation
 
 If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!
 
 Tom Mercadante
 Oracle Certified Professional
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
 To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)
 
 
 Hi,
 
  I recieved an email today as follows:
 
 Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
 Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
 
 Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
 Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
 One or more attachments were deleted
 Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
 Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.
 
 
 Here is the repsonse from my guys:
 
 It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
 diamonddata.com
 and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
 email.
 It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to
 you,
 in
 which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked
 on
 it's
 way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about the possible
 of
 virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the
 scan
 anyway. See what they can find.
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
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RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Wine can run lotus notes. I tested it and it works fairly nice. The only 
problem is that I cannot resize the window, so I have to use another
workspace
for it.

 -Original Message-
 From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:29 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond
 
 
 found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a 
 shell if I am not
 mistaken, too... 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... 
 we are here
 
 such lovely choices we have
 
 
 --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.  
  The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.
  
  Tom Mercadante
  Oracle Certified Professional
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing 
 so because
  they
  are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to 
 even consider
  the
  alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using
  M$
  products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
  alternatives to damagement every time I have the 
 opportunity.  For my
  home
  machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be
  used in
  my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying 
 with the idea
  of
  getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of
  my
  current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full 
 Linux is that
  I have
  not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too
  busy or
  too lazy to write one 8-)
  
  To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  
 Some people
  choose
  to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.
  
  Kevin Kennedy
  First Point Energy Corporation
  
  If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  
  So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products
  are
  doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the
  right
  choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they
  can
  make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult
  choice
  and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
  whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a
  viable
  alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to 
 management). 
  In
  the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
  been finding that more difficult lately.
  
  Kevin Kennedy
  First Point Energy Corporation
  
  If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!
  
  Tom Mercadante
  Oracle Certified Professional
  
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  
  
  Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.
  
  -Original Message-
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
  To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)
  
  
  Hi,
  
 I recieved an email today as follows:
  
  Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
  Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
  
  Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
  Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
  One or more attachments were deleted
  Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
  Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.
  
  
  Here is the repsonse from my guys:
  
  It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
  diamonddata.com
  and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
  email.
  It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to
  you,
  in
  which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked
  on
  it's
  way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about 
 the possible
  of
  virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the
  scan
  anyway. See what they can find.
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
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RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread Stahlke, Mark

The universe exists according to our beliefs. If you believe that you have
no choice, then you have no choice. But only because you believe it.

Happy Friday,
Mark There is no spoon Stahlke
Denver Newspaper Agency

 -Original Message-
Sent:   Friday, August 30, 2002 7:58 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.  
The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they
are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the
alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$
products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my home
machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in
my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea of
getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my
current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have
not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or
too lazy to write one 8-)

To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people choose
to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are
doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the right
choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can
make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice
and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a viable
alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management).  In
the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
been finding that more difficult lately.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)


Hi,

   I recieved an email today as follows:

Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD
Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@SUNGARD

Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
One or more attachments were deleted
Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.


Here is the repsonse from my guys:

It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
diamonddata.com
and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
email.
It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you,
in
which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on
it's
way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about the possible of
virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan
anyway. See what they can find.



  




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Fat 

Re: select count(*) = 0, select /*+ full(a) */ count(*) = 5227 ?

2002-08-30 Thread Casey A. Jordan


I had the same issue in a 8.1.6 database and found that was bug related to
the cost based optimizer and materialized views.  Never did resolve it but
found that the problem occurred when the table in question had a
materialized view selecting data from in.

Thanks,
caj

- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:23 AM


On
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.2.0 - 64bit Production
PL/SQL Release 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
CORE8.1.7.0.0   Production
TNS for Solaris: Version 8.1.7.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.1.0.0 - Production

I got a stange result and I wish to find an explanation.
Look
I did
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement ;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
 0

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=2 Card=1)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
INDEX (FAST FULL SCAN) OF 'MVT_ID_LOT_IDX' (NON-UNIQUE) (Cost=2
Card=24507)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
288  db block gets
120  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
203  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  0  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1 rows processed

I tryed with and order by on the first column_name, I got the exact number
of rows in this table, why ?
SQL select count(*) from ced_info_mouvement order by
IDENTIF_PRODUIT_COMPTABLE;
 cls  COUNT(*)
--
  5227

1 ligne sÚlectionnÚe.


Execution Plan
--
  0
SELECT STATEMENT Optimizer=CHOOSE (Cost=19 Card=1 Bytes=17)


  1  0
  SORT (AGGREGATE)


  2  1
PARTITION RANGE (ALL)


  3  2
  PARTITION HASH (ALL)


  4  3
TABLE ACCESS (FULL) OF 'CED_INFO_MOUVEMENT' (Cost=19 Card=24507
Bytes=416619)






Statistics
--
  0  recursive calls
116  db block gets
246  consistent gets
  0  physical reads
  0  redo size
206  bytes sent via SQL*Net to client
248  bytes received via SQL*Net from client
  2  SQL*Net roundtrips to/from client
  1  sorts (memory)
  0  sorts (disk)
1 rows processed


I tryed vith HINTS FULL and I got  5227 rows.

Regards.


NAME  VALUE
-
-
active_instance_count
always_anti_join  NESTED_LOOPS
always_semi_join  standard
aq_tm_processes   0
audit_file_dest   ?/rdbms/audit
audit_trail   NONE
background_core_dump  partial
background_dump_dest  /sscedre/data/sqcedi/admin/log
backup_tape_io_slaves FALSE
bitmap_merge_area_size1048576
blank_trimmingFALSE
buffer_pool_keep
buffer_pool_recycle
commit_point_strength 1
compatible8.1.0
control_file_record_keep_time 7
control_files
/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk1/ctrl11sqcedi.ctl,

/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk2/ctrl12sqcedi.ctl,

/sscedre/data/sqcedi/disk3/ctrl13sqcedi.ctl

core_dump_dest?/dbs
cpu_count 4
create_bitmap_area_size   8388608
cursor_sharingEXACT
cursor_space_for_time FALSE
db_block_buffers  3200
db_block_checking FALSE
db_block_checksum FALSE
db_block_lru_latches  2
db_block_max_dirty_target 3200
db_block_size 8192
db_domain
db_file_direct_io_count   64
db_file_multiblock_read_count 32
db_file_name_convert
db_files  500
dblink_encrypt_login  FALSE
db_name   sqcedi
dbwr_io_slaves0
db_writer_processes   1
disk_asynch_ioTRUE
distributed_transactions  23
dml_locks 500

RE: IMPORT sloooowwww

2002-08-30 Thread Cary Millsap
Title: RE: IMPORT sl









I like the way you found the root cause. If
I may paraphrase, you asked the database how it was spending its time, and the
answer guided the remainder of your performance improvement project. I contrast
this method with the traditional approach, which is to try to guess at a root
cause from the domain of literally thousands of possible root causes.





Cary Millsap
Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
http://www.hotsos.com

Upcoming events:
- Hotsos Clinic, Oct
13 San Francisco, Oct 1517 Dallas, Dec 911 Honolulu
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Casey
Dyke
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002
10:04 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: IMPORT sl



i might
add my 2c, even though the problem has been resolved. :-) 

once upon
a time, we had a 2g database that was taking a looong time to import.
anyone ever heard of remedy? 

did
everything that has already been mentioned. 

tracing
revealed log file sync waits ... and lots of em' ... (and a few other log type
waits ...) 

we had
long datatypes ... 

we were
frustrated ... it's only 2 bloody gig after all ... 

got rid
of the 2nd member of each log group -- byebye log file parallel write waits
... 
i then threw the remaining logs on
/tmp. bingo. an import that was looking to take  24hrs suddenly
flew. 

this was
done in test a number of times before we did it on production. but we did
put the logs on /tmp in prod. after the import we very quickly moved them
off. :-)

the real
issue was a poor io subsystem, but oracle's handling of longs during import did
not help. never followed up on the internals of it. a document on
metalink purporting to shed light on issues w/importing longs was ... not
available to me (or something like that).

the moral
here is, in _certain_ situations, odd little tricks like that can save the
day. it ain't for everyone, but in our particular case, logs in memory
allowed us to complete a nasty little rebuild (can you say 15 extents ...)
for a very poorly configured db w/in the allocated time window.

cheers,


casey ...


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Subject: IMPORT sl




Oracle
8.1.7 on Solaris 8 

I am
testing and upgrade from 7.3.4 to 8.1.7. Because the test server is

solaris 8, and I can't find the
patches for 7 anymore, I am trying to 
upgrade via an export and
import. Besides, the DB is small - less than 2G. 
The export was done with
compress=n. There are 200+ tables to be imported. 
It is taking 3+ minutes per table
for the import, even on tables that have 0 
rows. (Though it does take
longer than that for the few tables with over 
50K rows). 

I have
tried: 
 1) Simple import.

 2) Import with
indexes=n 
 3) Import with table
and constraints (but not indexes) pre-created and 
indexes=n ignore=y 
 4) All of the above
with the buffer set to 8M (This actually slows the 
import down, taking 5+ minutes per
table). 
 5) Increasing the
sort_area_size for the DB to twice as large as it was 
and trying the above.


In
looking at how long it takes, the table imports in a second or less, but

it takes 3 minutes + to start the
import of the next table. I'm not sure 
what it is doing for 3 minutes
after the table imports. 

Does
anyone have any ideas how I can speed this up? 10 hours to import a

2G. DB is extreme and unacceptable.


TIA.


Terry


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Library cache lock and library cache latch

2002-08-30 Thread Paul Baumgartel

Good morning, everyone.

A running Oracle server contains both library cache locks and library
cache latches.  What are the criteria for using a lock vs. a latch for
protecting objects in the cache?  For example, at the moment we're
trying to create a new version of a package, but a running session
calls it constantly; the wait event references the library cache lock. 
I've seen waits on the library cache latch in similar situations (at
least I think I have; my memory may be failing me!).

TIA!
  


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Re: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the only 
one). How the hell did they lose market share?

ltiu

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 oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here

 such lovely choices we have

 --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.
  The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.
 
  Tom Mercadante
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  -Original Message-
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  No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because
  they
  are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider
  the
  alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using
  M$
  products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
  alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my
  home
  machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be
  used in
  my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea
  of
  getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of
  my
  current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that
  I have
  not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too
  busy or
  too lazy to write one 8-)
 
  To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people
  choose
  to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.
 
  Kevin Kennedy
  First Point Energy Corporation
 
  If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
  -Original Message-
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  So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products
  are
  doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?
 
  -Original Message-
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  You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the
  right
  choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they
  can
  make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult
  choice
  and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
  whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a
  viable
  alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management).
  In
  the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
  been finding that more difficult lately.
 
  Kevin Kennedy
  First Point Energy Corporation
 
  If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
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  Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!
 
  Tom Mercadante
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Creating Scott/Tiger

2002-08-30 Thread Jonathan Gennick

I need to create the Scott/Tiger schema in Oracle9i. Does anyone
recall off the top of their head just where the script to do this is
located? 

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SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert

Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


RF

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
Mastering Oracle8i  (Sybex)

The avalanche has begun, It is too late for the pebbles to vote.

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Re: sql loader control file help

2002-08-30 Thread Jonathan Gennick

On Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:41:50 -0800, Rachel wrote:

I am not, by any means, a SQL*Loader expert (Jonathan, I keep meaning
to get your book!)

Sounds like you've solved this one already, but since you invoked my
name (and in vain too, since I was of no help grin), I'll just chime
in to say that my best guess is that you are encountering a character
set translation issue. Not sure my book would help much with this. I
don't recall delving into character sets in the book. I'll have to
correct that omission when I do the revision.

I will say that I've recently had occasion to delve into Oracle's
support of Unicode (for Steven Feuerstein's upcomming PL/SQL, Third
Edition). It's incredible how complicated something so seemingly
simple (on the surface) can be. 

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Why it picks up the same PFILE for both the DBs?

2002-08-30 Thread Naveen Nahata

Hi All,
I have a system with 2 databases, both running on the same server 8.0.5. 
OS - Windows NT
When i connect thru server manager to TEST, and then issue STARTUP, it starts
up the PROD database using the initPROD.ora file.
On querying V$instance it shows INSTANCE_NAME = TEST
On querying V$database it shows NAME=PROD.
When i connect to PROD and STARTUP, it starts PROD using initPROD.ora
On querying V$instance it shows INSTANCE_NAME = PROD
On querying V$database it shows NAME=PROD.

The following registry parameters are set...

ORA_TEST_PFILE - Pointing to initTEST.ora
ORA_PROD_PFILE - Pointing to initPROD.ora

What am i missing??

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Re: Hot Backup scripts UNIX

2002-08-30 Thread Suzy Vordos


Here's a ksh script that dumps backup files to a remote server.  It also
accounts for multiple datafiles per tablespace, which I didn't see coded
in the Velpuri scripts.

Suzy


#!/bin/ksh
#
---
# Program: hot_backup.sh
# Created By: lvordos
# Syntax: hot_backup.sh ORACLE_SID BACKUP_SRVR
#
# Executes hot backup for ${ORACLE_SID} and sends all backup data 
# to ${BACKUP_SRVR}.
#
# This script connects as BACKUP_ADM and requires the following system 
# privileges: create session, select_catalog_role, alter database, 
# alter tablespace, alter system
#
# Events of this script are logged to: 
# ${HOME}/logs/hot_backup_${ORACLE_SID}.log
#
#
---


# LOAD ENVIRONMENT #


#-- set base env --#
. ${HOME}/bin/setenv.sh

#-- set oracle env --#
ORACLE_SID=${1} ; export ORACLE_SID
ORACLE_HOME=`cat ${ORATAB} |grep ${ORACLE_SID} | awk -F: '/^[^#]/' | \
   cut -d : -f2` ; export ORACLE_HOME
unset SQLPATH 

#-- set custom env --#
NOTIFY_SUBJ=FAILURE: ${HOSTNAME}:${ORACLE_SID} ${0##*/} ; export
NOTIFY_SUBJ
BACKUP_SRVR=${2} ; export BACKUP_SRVR
RMTBAK_DIR1=/backup01/orcldb/${ORACLE_SID} ; export RMTBAK_DIR1
LOCBAK_DIR1=/dbbak01/bakdata/${ORACLE_SID} ; export LOCBAK_DIR1
ORACFG_DIR=${ORACLE_ADMIN}/${ORACLE_SID}/pfile ; export ORACFG_DIR
SSH=/usr/local/bin/ssh ; export SSH
SCP=/usr/local/bin/scp ; export SCP


#
# PROGRAM FUNCTIONS #
#

## 
# generate output listing of tablespaces #
# and datafiles for backup   #
## 
do_tablespace_lst() {
function=do_tablespace_lst; print \nSTART ${function} at `date
+%H:%M:%S`\n

${ORACLE_HOME}/bin/sqlplus -s /nolog -[]
 connect ${BACKUP_ADM}@${ORACLE_SID}

 whenever sqlerror exit sql.sqlcode;
 set feedback off echo on pagesize 0 trimspool on 

 host echo \n++ Executing checkpoint 
 alter system checkpoint ;

 host echo \n++ Archiving current logs  
 alter system archive log current ;

 host echo ++ Generating tablespace and datafile list for backup 
 spool ${LOGDIR}/${ORACLE_SID}_datafiles.txt

 select tablespace_name ||':'|| file_name 
 from dba_data_files order by tablespace_name, file_name ;

 spool off
 host echo \n++ Backup tablespace list complete
[]

if [[ $? != 0 ]] ; then
print \nFATAL: ${function} Failure generating tablespace list\n
NOTIFY_MSG=`cat ${LOGFILE}`
enotify
exit -1
else
if [[ ! -s ${LOGDIR}/${ORACLE_SID}_datafiles.txt ]] ; then
print \nFATAL: ${function} Tablespace list does not exist \n
NOTIFY_MSG=`cat ${LOGFILE}`
enotify
exit -1
fi
fi

print END ${function} at `date +%H:%M:%S` Status $? \n
}


## 
# roll previous backups on backup server #
## 
do_roll_backups() {
function=do_roll_backups; print \nSTART ${function} at `date
+%H:%M:%S`

# remove oldest backup
if ${SSH} ${BACKUP_SRVR} rm -r ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/03 ; then
   print \n++ Rolling previous backups on ${BACKUP_SRVR}\n
   # rename previous  current previous backups
   ${SSH} ${BACKUP_SRVR} mv ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/02 ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/03
   ${SSH} ${BACKUP_SRVR} mv ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/01 ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/02
   ${SSH} ${BACKUP_SRVR} cp -pr ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/00 ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/01 
else
   print \nFATAL: ${function} Could not roll backups on
${BACKUP_SRVR}\n 
   NOTIFY_MSG=`cat ${LOGFILE}`
   enotify 
   exit -1
fi


if ${SSH} ${BACKUP_SRVR} ls -d ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/01 ; then
   print ++ Backup directory exists on ${BACKUP_SRVR}\n
else
   print \nFATAL: ${function} Backup directory ${RMTBAK_DIR1}/01 not
found on
${BACKUP_SRVR}\n 
   NOTIFY_MSG=`cat ${LOGFILE}`
   enotify 
   exit -1
fi

print END ${function} at `date +%H:%M:%S` Status $? \n
}


## 
# put tablespaces in backup mode - if that fails #
# for any tablespace call do_end and exit script #
## 
do_begin_backup() {
function=do_begin_backup; print \nSTART ${function} at `date
+%H:%M:%S`\n

 ${ORACLE_HOME}/bin/sqlplus -s /nolog -[]
 connect ${BACKUP_ADM}@${ORACLE_SID}

 whenever sqlerror exit sql.sqlcode;
 set feedback off echo on 

 variable tscnt number ;

 host echo \n++ Altering tablespace ${T} to backup mode
 alter tablespace ${T} begin backup ;

 set termout off
 execute select count(1) into :tscnt from v\$backup b, dba_data_files d
where d.file_id =
b.file# and d.tablespace_name = '${T}' and b.status != 'ACTIVE';

 execute if :tscnt  0 then raise invalid_number ; end if ;

 host echo ++ Tablespace ${T} in backup mode
[]

if [[ $? != 0 ]] ; then
print \nFATAL: ${function} Tablespace ${T} not in backup mode\n
NOTIFY_MSG=`cat ${LOGFILE}`
enotify
exit -1
fi

# 

RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread April Wells

HERE... herd mentality... Microsoft rules... Microsoft Rules... Oracle
Applications are buggy and user GMT in their log files... Access is better,
Microsoft doesn't sell buggy software... mooo... hey... look at that really
cool cliff... Let's follow those other buffalo ... the jump looks like
fun

Better question.  If 90% of the email virus's are written for Outlook
address book... Why is it considered 'what to use'?

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the only 
one). How the hell did they lose market share?

ltiu

On Friday 30 August 2002 08:28, April Wells wrote:
 found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not
 mistaken, too...

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 Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here

 such lovely choices we have



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Automatic generation of Statspack report ...

2002-08-30 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Someone had asked this question ... maybe this will help ..

 Batch mode report generation
  
  To run a report without being prompted, assign values to the
  and the report name before running spreport.

  The variables are:
begin_snap   - specifies the begin Snapshot Id
end_snap - specifies the end   Snapshot Id
report_name  - specifies the Report output name

  e.g.
on Unix:
  SQL  connect perfstat/perfstat
  SQL  define begin_snap=1
  SQL  define end_snap=2
  SQL  define report_name=batch_run
  SQL  ?/rdbms/admin/spreport

  spreport will no longer prompt for the above information.



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RE: Creating Scott/Tiger

2002-08-30 Thread Scott . Shafer

I don't know about the user scott/tiger, but the scripts to build the tables
(emp, dept, etc) are in $ORACLE_HOME/sqlplus/demo

/opt/oracle/product/9.0.2/sqlplus/demo ll
total 16
-rw-r--r--   1 oracle oinstall  3565 May 13  2001 demobld.sql
-rw-r--r--   1 oracle oinstall   573 May 13  2001 demodrop.sql

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210.581.6217


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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Ji, Richard

Are you kidding?  So what do we use to startup and shutdown db?  OEM?
I don't think there is any truth to this one.

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Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


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RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

2002-08-30 Thread Seefelt, Beth


The same way Digital did.  The best product doesn't always win...

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Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the
only 
one). How the hell did they lose market share?

ltiu

On Friday 30 August 2002 08:28, April Wells wrote:
 found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am
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 oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are
here

 such lovely choices we have

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  If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
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  If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
 
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Re: Creating Scott/Tiger

2002-08-30 Thread Jared . Still

$ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/utlsampl.sql





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RE: Automatic generation of Statspack report ...

2002-08-30 Thread Erik Williams

EXCELLENT! This is EXACTLY what I was looking for. Thank you very much!

Erik

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Someone had asked this question ... maybe this will help ..

 Batch mode report generation
  
  To run a report without being prompted, assign values to the
  and the report name before running spreport.

  The variables are:
begin_snap   - specifies the begin Snapshot Id
end_snap - specifies the end   Snapshot Id
report_name  - specifies the Report output name

  e.g.
on Unix:
  SQL  connect perfstat/perfstat
  SQL  define begin_snap=1
  SQL  define end_snap=2
  SQL  define report_name=batch_run
  SQL  @?/rdbms/admin/spreport

  spreport will no longer prompt for the above information.



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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael

How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say OEM...


--- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

Nooo!!!

On Friday 30 August 2002 09:23, Freeman, Robert wrote:
 Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


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RE: ora-1017 invalid username/password when trying to login as internal

2002-08-30 Thread ATIN KUMAR JAIN


Check init.ora parameter,remote_login_passwordfile should be exclusive.
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 Oracle 8.1.6/WinNT

 I get ora-1017 invalid username/password when trying to
 connect as internal.  I have recreated password file many
 times to no avail. Usually this all I have had to do in the
 past for this error. I have tried all combinations of
 remote_login_passwordfile.  I was getting connected earlier.
 I had to a shutdown but cannot get server up. Luckily it is a
 relatively used development server.  Any ideas on how to correct?

After you create a new password file, stop and restart the  sid service
via oradim or through nt services

This happens here from time to time, not sure why, but the above works

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Re: new email address

2002-08-30 Thread Joe Testa

Ruth, i got it as i've not file 13'd the email acct yet.

thanks, joe


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Seconds in Wait

2002-08-30 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

I've been sampling active SQL at a rate of  5 Hz and saving the wait information to a 
table.  Here is one example.

   SELECT  RUNDATE, EVENT,   SECONDS_IN_WAIT, STATE, SEQ#
 FROM STATEMENT_WAIT_INFO WHERE USERNAME = 'ARF' AND
 ADDRESS = '8992E2C8' AND HASH_VALUE = 3642756738


RUNDATEEVENT SECONDS_IN_WAIT STATE 
SEQ#
  --  
---  ---  --
29-AUG-2002:22:41:53 SQL*Net message from dblink  3 WAITING
 209
29-AUG-2002:22:41:58 SQL*Net message from dblink  8 WAITING
 209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:04 SQL*Net message from dblink 25 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:10 SQL*Net message from dblink 30 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:15 SQL*Net message from dblink 35 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:21 SQL*Net message from dblink 39 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:27 SQL*Net message from dblink 42 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:32 SQL*Net message from dblink 47 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:38 SQL*Net message from dblink 52 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:43 SQL*Net message from dblink 57 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:49 SQL*Net message from dblink 62 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:42:55 SQL*Net message from dblink 64 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:43:00 SQL*Net message from dblink 69 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:43:06 SQL*Net message from dblink 86 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:43:12 SQL*Net message from dblink 91 WAITING
209
29-AUG-2002:22:43:17 SQL*Net message from dblink 96 WAITING
209
---

Note that the state is WAITING  so seconds_in_wait should be the Actual Wait time in 
Seconds.  See Oracle Performance Tuning 101 pg 32.  Note, also the  seq# number.  I 
am intrigued by the jump from 8 seconds to 25 seconds for the seconds_in_wait column 
where the  clock time only advanced 
six seconds.  Also the jump from 69 to 86 seconds  of wait_time between 10:43:00 PM 
and 10:43:06 PM.   Interestingly both of these great leaps are 17 seconds, and
both occurred just after the system time had  changed to the next minute.  These could 
both be coincidences.

Any thoughts about what's going on  here.

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Re: sql loader control file help

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I find that the worst problems I have with SQL*Loader tend to be
language related. The same goes with export/import. I wish there were
better documentation on the NLS parameters.

and yes, it was characterset. What I didn't understand was why when I
selected from NLS_DATABASE_PARAMETERS it showed the proper settings yet
I couldn't load. NLS_LANG was unset in Unix/

one of these days I might actually learn something about Oracle :)


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 I am not, by any means, a SQL*Loader expert (Jonathan, I keep
 meaning
 to get your book!)
 
 Sounds like you've solved this one already, but since you invoked my
 name (and in vain too, since I was of no help grin), I'll just
 chime
 in to say that my best guess is that you are encountering a character
 set translation issue. Not sure my book would help much with this. I
 don't recall delving into character sets in the book. I'll have to
 correct that omission when I do the revision.
 
 I will say that I've recently had occasion to delve into Oracle's
 support of Unicode (for Steven Feuerstein's upcomming PL/SQL, Third
 Edition). It's incredible how complicated something so seemingly
 simple (on the surface) can be. 
 
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Re: Creating Scott/Tiger

2002-08-30 Thread Dale

Hi Jonathan

 I need to create the Scott/Tiger schema in Oracle9i. Does anyone
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The creation script can usually be found in
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jan Pruner

Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and 
most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.

:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/

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Test - pls Ignore

2002-08-30 Thread Diego Cutrone






Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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RE: working with datafile 2Gb in HadHat 7.3

2002-08-30 Thread Ji, Richard

Nope.

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If you can't do it in hardware, do it in software. Right?

ltiu

Ji, Richard wrote:

There is no such hardware limitation like that.  Those are the OS i.e.
software limitations.  For instance, the 2gb file size limit is because of
the
32 bit OS, actually, to be more specific, it's the 32 bit file system.
You can have a 32bit OS kernel, but if your file system supports 64bit,
then
you can support 2gb files.  Same thing for the memory.

Richard Ji

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OK. I stand corrected. You do need third party tools though. But I 
suppose engineers can always hack their way through hardware limitations 
to make thing work. Like the 4GB memory limit of intels - this is not 
more since I believe Windows 2K and XP have this feature(in software?) 
where it can access greater than 4GB memory..

Philip Douglass wrote:

  

Uh... don't think so! -- we're running UnixWare 7 on Intel hardware
(Xeons) and large file support is a matter of enabling the largefiles
option on the Veritas (VxFS) filesystem. That being said, I only use 2Gig
datafiles because it seems foolhardy to me to use 2Gig datafiles unless
you have an obvious need for them. And if you do, then test it a lot! And
make sure all of your programs support large files too (some versions of
tar/cpio/gzip don't)

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It doesn't really matter what OS you have. Intel hardware can only
handle 2Gb files sizes max. Even if the hardware can support large
files, it is still recommended that you do not have large datafiles. You
need to partition your tablespaces into multiple datafiles. This
facilitates backups and restores and you can put  the datafiles into
different hard drives increasing i/o performance.

ltiu

Adriano Freire wrote:

 



Ok ltiu,
REDHAT 7.3 kernel-2.4.18-10

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What's HadHat 7.3?

A new Linux distro pattered after RedHat 7.3?

ltiu

Adriano Freire wrote:



 



Gurus,

I've some problems with datafiles  2Gb in HadHat 7.3. I'm using
datafile type ext3 and
when i try create a datafile with 2Gb the database is catching.
Anybody have the some problem?
any suggestion?

Thanks

Adriano.


   

  

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RE: ora-1017 invalid username/password when trying to login as internal

2002-08-30 Thread Naveen Nahata

Just my guess, look at the registry parameter ORA_SID_PWFILE(Sorry my
knowledge is limited to NT only) and see if it is pointing to the right file.
Try restarting the service.

Are you running more than one DB on the same server?

by the way, if you find out the exact reason why this is happening do put it
in the List. It bugged me too once, not sure exactly how i got rid of it.

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Check init.ora parameter,remote_login_passwordfile should be exclusive.
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 I get ora-1017 invalid username/password when trying to
 connect as internal.  I have recreated password file many
 times to no avail. Usually this all I have had to do in the
 past for this error. I have tried all combinations of
 remote_login_passwordfile.  I was getting connected earlier.
 I had to a shutdown but cannot get server up. Luckily it is a
 relatively used development server.  Any ideas on how to correct?

After you create a new password file, stop and restart the  sid service
via oradim or through nt services

This happens here from time to time, not sure why, but the above works

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test - pls ignore

2002-08-30 Thread Diego Cutrone






RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen

We only need to start it. It usually stops itself without human control.
That is why we have ora-600 and ora-7445 features implemented in PMON 
and SMON. As for starting and stopping,  let me  be innovative:
What do you say to call the start/stop program IOR and have 
database startup performed by ior w and database creation by ior i
(i liki init). That would be a new and improved thing, wouldn't it?
May be, calling the program sqldba would be even better. Integrating 
an ncurses version of top sessions monitor and rollback segment monitor
would also be an outrageous improvement, don't you think so?

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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

What would be the replacement??

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Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


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accessing user_users via a procedure in SYS

2002-08-30 Thread Boivin, Patrice J

Hi,

I am trying to put together a package that uses the AUTHID current_user
directive to decide whether to let people kill a session or not, and I ran
into a problem.

One procedure will run as SYS, but I need to double-check the requester's
username to ensure he/she isn't trying to kill their neighbour's session.

To do that I build a function that runs with the AUTHID current_user
directive and tries to select username from user_users.  Hopefully it will
be able to pass back the username to the parent proc.

When I try to run a procedure that does a select against user_users using
that directive, I get an error:
PLS-00357: Table,View Or Sequence reference 'USER_USERS' not allowed in this
context

I found tech note 162489.1, according to that, shouldn't user_users work as
well?

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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rodd Holman




oradim is only a windows thingy. Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl or sqlplus depending on version. Are you saying that they are going to port oradim to *NIX??



Rodd



On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote:

oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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Missing Redo Log Files and Control File

2002-08-30 Thread Whittle Jerome Contr NCI
Title: Missing Redo Log Files and Control File






Hi,


We were almost done setting up a new server for the developers when a hard drive crashed. MTBF sure took a hit on that one! We had a replacement drive installed.

Fortunately we really only lost a control file and redo logs on that disk and they were multiplexed. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but we should be able to recover by shutting down the database; copying over a good control file and redo log file; and then restarting the database?

Thanks,


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Re: Table Locks

2002-08-30 Thread Alan Davey

Thanks Raj.

I'll give these a try.

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On 8/30/2002 10:08 AM, Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I created following two views for developer's use and so far there 
have been
no complaints ..

CREATE OR REPLACE FORCE VIEW SYSTEM.DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS 
(OBJECT_NAME, SESSION_ID, ORACLE_USERNAME, OS_USER_NAME, SQL_ACTIONS, 

 LOCK_MODE) AS 
SELECT DO.object_name, lo.SESSION_ID, lo.oracle_username, lo.OS_USER_NAME,
   DECODE(locked_mode,
  1, 'SELECT',
  2, 'SELECT FOR UPDATE / LOCK ROW SHARE',
  3, 'INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE/LOCK ROW EXCLUSIVE',
  4, 'CREATE INDEX/LOCK SHARE',
  5, 'LOCK SHARE ROW EXCLUSIVE',
  6, 'ALTER TABLE/DROP TABLE/DROP INDEX/TRUNCATE TABLE/LOCK
EXCLUSIVE') sql_actions,
   DECODE(locked_mode, 1, 'NULL', 2, 'SS - SUB SHARE', 3, 'SX 
- SUB
EXCLUSIVE',
  4, 'S - SHARE', 5, 'SSX - SHARE/SUB EXCLUSIVE', 6, 
'X -
EXCLUSIVE') Lock_mode
  FROM sys.V_$LOCKED_OBJECT lo, DB$OBJECTS DO
 WHERE DO.object_id = lo.object_id;

CREATE PUBLIC SYNONYM DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS FOR SYSTEM.DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS;

GRANT SELECT ON  SYSTEM.DB$LOCKED_OBJECTS TO PUBLIC;


and 

CREATE OR REPLACE FORCE VIEW SYSTEM.DB$LOCKS 
(OBJ_OWNER, OBJ_NAME, OBJ_TYPE, OBJ_ROWID, DB_USER, 
 SID, LOCK_TYPE, ROW_WAIT_FILE#, ROW_WAIT_BLOCK#, ROW_WAIT_ROW#) 
AS 
SELECT owner obj_owner,
   object_name obj_name,
   object_type  obj_type,
   dbms_rowid.rowid_create(1, row_wait_obj#, ROW_WAIT_FILE#,
   ROW_WAIT_BLOCK#,ROW_WAIT_ROW#) obj_rowid,
   a.username db_user, a.sid sid, a.TYPE lock_type,
   a.row_wait_file#, a.row_wait_block#, a.row_wait_row#
  FROM DB$OBJECTS,
   (SELECT a.username, a.sid, a.row_wait_obj#, a.ROW_WAIT_FILE#,
   a.ROW_WAIT_BLOCK#, a.ROW_WAIT_ROW#, b.TYPE
  FROM sys.V_$SESSION a, sys.V_$LOCK b
 WHERE a.username IS NOT NULL
   AND a.row_wait_obj#  -1
   AND a.sid = b.sid
   AND b.TYPE IN ('TX','TM')
   ) a
 WHERE object_id = a.row_wait_obj#;

CREATE PUBLIC SYNONYM DB$LOCKS FOR SYSTEM.DB$LOCKS;

GRANT SELECT ON  SYSTEM.DB$LOCKS TO PUBLIC;


DB$OBJECTs is a snapshot of DBA_OBJECTS, it is too slow to select 
from
DBA_OBJECTS, so I created a snapshot that is refreshed on a daily 
basis, it
works fine for me.

Hope this helps some. As others have mentioned, currently locked 
rows are
very difficult to find, what you can find though is the rowid for 
which a
lock is requested. 

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Thanks Rachel.

I spent the train ride reading the chapters on Instance Tuning and 
Dynamic
Performance Views hoping to find something, but no such luck.  I 
learned a
lot of other useful things though, so it wasn't a waste of time.

Jacques, v$locked_object shows the table, but I already knew which 
table was
locked.  I was hoping to find the offending SQL statement.

Have a great weekend everyone.

Regards,
-- 

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On 8/29/2002 10:43 PM, Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
I'm not sure it's possible to find the locking SQL and SID once 
the
session issues other SQL statements.

I spent a lot of time a few years back attempting to find it, without
success. I got the people at both Platinum Technology and Savant 

(yes,
I'm showing my age here) to try to find it as well, figuring their
technical people were better at this sort of thing than I am... 
no
luck.

I don't think Oracle stores the statement and who issued it, just 

the
rollback info necessary and the fact that there is a lock.


--- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I've noticed some locks on various tables and I'm trying to figure
 out which DML statements are causing the locks.  In this example, 

the
 lock isn't being released because the developer forgot to include 

a
 commit/rollback.
 
 If I look at v$session which is causing the lock and query v$sqlarea
 with  the values in sql_address and prev_sql_addr, I only see 
select
 statements that were issued after the DML (in this case a delete). 

 I
 can query 
 v$sqlarea with the locked table name and find the delete statement,
 but how do I link this back to the sid that issued it?  Also, 
what 
if
 there had been multiple DML statements by this user, how would 

I know
 which was the first/last one executed?
 
 I'm RTFMing, but so far no luck.  Any help would be greatly
 appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 -- 
 
 Alan Davey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 212-604-0200  x106
 
 
 
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Please need some help on imp

2002-08-30 Thread Bill Conner

Hi All,

i am starting to feel real dumb,  have RTFM for oracle utilities on imp/exp 3
times but don't seem able to get the imp to just load the data and not the
tables as well.  Am running solaris 8 oracle 8.1.7 anything that i might
not be seeing would be very much appreciated!!


TiA


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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen



Connected to that, there is a rumor tha M$ will buy 
Oracle Corp., with 
Larry 
Ellison taking the place of Steve Ballmer.

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  SQL*Plus in 10ioradim is only a windows thingy. 
  Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl or sqlplus depending on version. 
  Are you saying that they are going to port oradim to *NIX?? Rodd 
  On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote: 
  oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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Re: Index hints?

2002-08-30 Thread Stephane Faroult

Naveen,

 
 If you specify a hint Oracle is forced to use the index.


  Not 'forced'. Hence the name 'hint'. 

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Re: Missing Redo Log Files and Control File

2002-08-30 Thread Thomas Day


Absolutely

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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Joe Testa

thats the Stupid WINDOZE way.

joe


ltiu wrote:

oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say OEM...

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Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

Why not? It's easy to use. It will increase Oracle's market share to the dumb 
and dumber.

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 They got rid of SVRMGR.

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RE: upgrade 8.1.6.2 to 8.1.7.3 or 8.1.7.4

2002-08-30 Thread Miller, Jay

My understanding is that 8.1.7.3 is the buggy one.  It was supposed to be
the terminal 8.1.7 release but it had so many problems they had to come out
with 8.1.7.4

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DBA's

I have to upgrade an 8.1.6.2 DB on Solaris this weekend (so much for a three
day weekend). Is there any reason not to go to 8.1.7.4??? Is 8.1.7.3 less
buggy, etc??? I hope to upgrade this DB to 9.2.0.1 as soon as the app vendor
ok's it, thanks to our Oracle friends we can't go direct from 8.1.6.x to
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

Rumor ...

They might as well buy SUN along the way (and get rid of Java for good). 
SUN's market cap is only $13B. MS got $300B.

On Friday 30 August 2002 12:44, Gogala, Mladen wrote:
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 oradim to *NIX??

 Rodd

 On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote:

 oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???



 They got rid of SVRMGR.



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RE: Please need some help on imp

2002-08-30 Thread John Weatherman

Bill,

I assume from the way you state this, you already have the tables built and
don't want imp to blow up trying to recreate them.  Correct?  If so, try
ignore=y.  Also, if the user is changing, are you using fromuser= touser=?
Output from your problem might be helpful.

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Hi All,

i am starting to feel real dumb,  have RTFM for oracle utilities on imp/exp
3
times but don't seem able to get the imp to just load the data and not the
tables as well.  Am running solaris 8 oracle 8.1.7 anything that i might
not be seeing would be very much appreciated!!


TiA


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Re: Table Locks

2002-08-30 Thread Stephane Faroult

Alan Davey wrote:
 
 Thanks Rachel.
 
 I spent the train ride reading the chapters on Instance Tuning and Dynamic 
Performance Views hoping to find something, but no such luck.  I learned a lot of 
other useful things though, so it wasn't a waste of time.
 
 Jacques, v$locked_object shows the table, but I already knew which table was locked. 
 I was hoping to find the offending SQL statement.
 
 Have a great weekend everyone.
 
 Regards,
 --
 
 Alan Davey
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 212-604-0200  x106
 
 On 8/29/2002 10:43 PM, Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not sure it's possible to find the locking SQL and SID once the
 session issues other SQL statements.
 
 I spent a lot of time a few years back attempting to find it, without
 success. I got the people at both Platinum Technology and Savant
 (yes,
 I'm showing my age here) to try to find it as well, figuring their
 technical people were better at this sort of thing than I am... no
 luck.
 
 I don't think Oracle stores the statement and who issued it, just
 the
 rollback info necessary and the fact that there is a lock.
 
 
 --- Alan Davey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi All,
 
  I've noticed some locks on various tables and I'm trying to figure
  out which DML statements are causing the locks.  In this example,
 the
  lock isn't being released because the developer forgot to include
 a
  commit/rollback.
 
  If I look at v$session which is causing the lock and query v$sqlarea
  with  the values in sql_address and prev_sql_addr, I only see select
  statements that were issued after the DML (in this case a delete).
  I
  can query
  v$sqlarea with the locked table name and find the delete statement,
  but how do I link this back to the sid that issued it?  Also, what
 if
  there had been multiple DML statements by this user, how would
 I know
  which was the first/last one executed?
 
  I'm RTFMing, but so far no luck.  Any help would be greatly
  appreciated.
 
  Regards,
  --
 
  Alan Davey
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  212-604-0200  x106
 

I hate to disagree even partially with Rachel, but IMHO if a lock
exists, then a cursor *may* still be open somewhere (I insist on 'may'
because this is typically untrue with SQL*Plus). In that case,
V$OPEN_CURSOR provides the SID and the hash value/address allowing to
join with V$SQL_TEXT. There is, also, V$SQL_CURSORS. Unfortunately, this
one is, I think, 'private' to a session and making use of CURNO requires
a plunge into the X$ tables. If I may suggest something, it is to create
an 'after' trigger on the locked table which systematically logs (in an
autonomous transaction) the statement which fired it. If I do not err,
when a lock occurs then the last logged statement should be the
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RE: Please need some help on imp

2002-08-30 Thread Hand, Michael T

Bill
Ignore=Y  is that what you're looking for?
Mike

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i am starting to feel real dumb,  have RTFM for oracle utilities on imp/exp
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times but don't seem able to get the imp to just load the data and not the
tables as well.  Am running solaris 8 oracle 8.1.7 anything that i might
not be seeing would be very much appreciated!!


TiA


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RE: ADV OT: Oracle-dba.com domain for sale

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert

just throw it out on ebay for auction Joe! :-)

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If you're interested, email me for the asking price.

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Re: Please need some help on imp

2002-08-30 Thread Thomas Day


I assume that the schemas, tables, synonyms, roles, grants, etc already
exist and you just want to populate the tables with the data from your
other database.

In your parm file set IGNORE=Y.  This will ignore errors caused by already
created objects and just load the data.

Type:  imp help=y
to see all the parameters.

HTH



   

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Hi All,

i am starting to feel real dumb,  have RTFM for oracle utilities on imp/exp
3
times but don't seem able to get the imp to just load the data and not the
tables as well.  Am running solaris 8 oracle 8.1.7 anything that i might
not be seeing would be very much appreciated!!


TiA


  -bill


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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Orr, Steve

 BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good?


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Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and

most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.

:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/

JP
On Friday 30 August 2002 18:23, you wrote:
 Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


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Re: Please need some help on imp

2002-08-30 Thread Scott Canaan

Bill,
 Where are you trying to load the data to?  Do the tables already exist?  If
so, then use the ignore=y option and it won't complain if the table already
exists when it tries to create it, but it will load the data into it.

Bill Conner wrote:

 Hi All,

 i am starting to feel real dumb,  have RTFM for oracle utilities on imp/exp 3
 times but don't seem able to get the imp to just load the data and not the
 tables as well.  Am running solaris 8 oracle 8.1.7 anything that i might
 not be seeing would be very much appreciated!!

 TiA

 -bill

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RE: upgrade 8.1.6.2 to 8.1.7.3 or 8.1.7.4

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Speaking of the recursion, now 8.1.7.4 has some serious problmes,
especially on HP-UX 11/64 with OPS.

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 My understanding is that 8.1.7.3 is the buggy one.  It was 
 supposed to be
 the terminal 8.1.7 release but it had so many problems they 
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 DBA's
 
 I have to upgrade an 8.1.6.2 DB on Solaris this weekend (so 
 much for a three
 day weekend). Is there any reason not to go to 8.1.7.4??? Is 
 8.1.7.3 less
 buggy, etc??? I hope to upgrade this DB to 9.2.0.1 as soon as 
 the app vendor
 ok's it, thanks to our Oracle friends we can't go direct from 
 8.1.6.x to
 9.2.0.1...
 
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