SQL query without UNION clause

2002-12-19 Thread Krishnaswamy, Ranganath
Hi all,

How do I forumlate the below query without using the UNION clause?

SELECT H1.OID HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
FAHRZEUG.OID,
H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+)
AND TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-MM-DD') = (select
max(TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-mm-dd'))
from historie ,FAHRZEUG WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT AND
HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT=H1.MYTECHOBJEKT)
AND H1.PRODUKT IN('HU', 'AU')
UNION
SELECT H1.OID HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
FAHRZEUG.OID,
H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+) AND H1.PRODUKT IN('DS', 'NFZ',
'BES', 'DekraSiegel', '70', '700202');

I can't use the union clause because I am using an Object-Relationship tool
called Cocobase which doesn't support the UNION clause.  Any help in this
regard is very much appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,

Ranganath

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RE: SQL query without UNION clause

2002-12-19 Thread Stephane Faroult
You would be surprised to discover what you could do with OR and suitably placed 
parentheses. 

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Hi all,

How do I forumlate the below query without using
the UNION clause?

SELECT H1.OID
HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
FAHRZEUG.OID,
H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+)
AND TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-MM-DD') = (select
max(TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-mm-dd'))
from historie ,FAHRZEUG WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID =
HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT AND
HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT=H1.MYTECHOBJEKT)
AND H1.PRODUKT IN('HU', 'AU')
UNION
SELECT H1.OID
HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
FAHRZEUG.OID,
H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+) AND
H1.PRODUKT IN('DS', 'NFZ',
'BES', 'DekraSiegel', '70', '700202');

I can't use the union clause because I am using an
Object-Relationship tool
called Cocobase which doesn't support the UNION
clause.  Any help in this
regard is very much appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,

Ranganath

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RE: SQL query without UNION clause

2002-12-19 Thread Naveen Nahata
Try this,

SELECT DISTINCT H1.OID HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
FAHRZEUG.OID,
H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT

FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+)
AND
((TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-MM-DD') = (select
max(TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-mm-dd'))
from historie ,FAHRZEUG WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT AND
HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT=H1.MYTECHOBJEKT)
AND H1.PRODUKT IN('HU', 'AU')) OR H1.PRODUKT IN('DS', 'NFZ',
'BES', 'DekraSiegel', '70', '700202'))

Regards
Naveen

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Hi all,

How do I forumlate the below query without using the UNION clause?

SELECT H1.OID HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
FAHRZEUG.OID,
H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+)
AND TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-MM-DD') = (select
max(TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-mm-dd'))
from historie ,FAHRZEUG WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT AND
HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT=H1.MYTECHOBJEKT)
AND H1.PRODUKT IN('HU', 'AU')
UNION
SELECT H1.OID HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
FAHRZEUG.OID,
H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+) AND H1.PRODUKT IN('DS', 'NFZ',
'BES', 'DekraSiegel', '70', '700202');

I can't use the union clause because I am using an Object-Relationship tool
called Cocobase which doesn't support the UNION clause.  Any help in this
regard is very much appreciated.

Thanks and Regards,

Ranganath

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SQL*PLUS and CygWin

2002-12-19 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi everybody

I'm using cywin on my Win2k box to get a reasonable shell. Now there's one
problem left: Everytime I issue a host command within SQL*PLUS, I get a
Windows console. I would like to get the bash prompt instead. Is there any
way to tell sql plus what to do when you do a host ? Like re-route it to
start the cygwin bash ?
The point is that I want to write and test scripts on win2k using shell
syntax (including the unix path'), so I could just mount my windows oracle
installation to /opt/oracle etc. and I could run the scripts as if I were on
a unix host. Unfortunately, everytime, I use a script containing host and
a path within the host-environment it doesn't work, because the cmd.exe
started by sqlplus expects windows path syntax like C.\blah instead of
/blah.

Any ideas ?

Regards,
Stefan



 
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Re: SQL query without UNION clause

2002-12-19 Thread Jan Pruner
I think you can translate it as OR, but you have to use some DISTINCT on 
output rows (because you use UNION and not UNION ALL).
Without DISTINCT it is like:
SELECT 
H1.OID HISTORIEOID
,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN
,FAHRZEUG.OID
,H1.PRODUKT
,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR
,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
FROM FAHRZEUG, HISTORIE H1
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+)
AND (   (TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-MM-DD') = (
select max(TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-mm-dd')) from historie, FAHRZEUG 
WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT 
AND HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT=H1.MYTECHOBJEKT)
AND H1.PRODUKT IN ('HU', 'AU')
)
OR
H1.PRODUKT IN('DS', 'NFZ','BES', 'DekraSiegel', '70', '700202'))
;

And I think you can change
select max(TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-mm-dd'))
to
select TO_DATE(MAX(H1.DATUMSTR),'-MM-DD')
it can now use index on column H1.DATUMSTR (or create function based index)

JP


On Thursday 19 December 2002 08:53, you wrote:
 Hi all,

 How do I forumlate the below query without using the UNION clause?

 SELECT H1.OID HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
 FAHRZEUG.OID,
 H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
 FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
 WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+)
 AND TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-MM-DD') = (select
 max(TO_DATE(H1.DATUMSTR,'-mm-dd'))
 from historie ,FAHRZEUG WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT AND
 HISTORIE.MYTECHOBJEKT=H1.MYTECHOBJEKT)
 AND H1.PRODUKT IN('HU', 'AU')
 UNION
 SELECT H1.OID HISTORIEOID,FAHRZEUG.AMTLICHESKENNZEICHEN,
 FAHRZEUG.OID,
 H1.PRODUKT,H1.AUFTRAGSPOSITIONSNR,H1.MYTECHOBJEKT
 FROM FAHRZEUG,HISTORIE H1
 WHERE FAHRZEUG.OID = H1.MYTECHOBJEKT(+) AND H1.PRODUKT IN('DS', 'NFZ',
 'BES', 'DekraSiegel', '70', '700202');

 I can't use the union clause because I am using an Object-Relationship tool
 called Cocobase which doesn't support the UNION clause.  Any help in this
 regard is very much appreciated.

 Thanks and Regards,

 Ranganath

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Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-19 Thread Dale
   I do have a set of sqlplus scripts that we wrote for 7.3.4 that generate
 DDL for objects in the database.

 So, you can write your own.   All the neccessary information is in the
 catalog.

It is for the more common stuff but for some objects the information is so
deeply buried it is next to impossible to figure out how to regenerate. For
example, try figuring out how to rebuild the DDL for a Hash Cluster from the
catalog.

Kind regards
Dale
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DBATool: A freeware DDL re-creation tool for Oracle databases.
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Re: Direct and indirect foreign key relationships in SQL or Pl/Sql

2002-12-19 Thread Dale
 How do I find out the direct and indirect foreign key relationships?
 Say, for example there are four tables A, B, C and D of which A is the
 parent table and B, C and D are child tables.  Say B and C are related to
A
 directly and D is related to A through C.  How do I find out this indirect
 relationship apart from the direct relationships?  Any help in this regard
 is very much appreciated.

The DataBee software has a Chain Finder tool in the Set Designer which
displays exactly this.  DataBee is designed to create referentially correct
subsets of Oracle databases and isn't free. However we do offer a 30 day
evaluation which might enable you to get done what you want to do. If you
would like to have a go at it drop me a note and I'll arrange to get an eval
key over to you.

Here's a link to the Chain Finder help page - it has a nice picture of the
relationship display.
http://www.databee.com/sdchainfinder.htm

Regards
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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-19 Thread Simon . Anderson

Well I'm always happy to plug good books...

But I did just that a couple of years ago on a different Oracle mailing
list, and suddenly no-one else seemed to be seeing my posts - it made me
wary of posting anything  that could possibly be interpreted as a
commercial plug.

I've been using 'Annotated Archives' for years, I'll have to take a look at
'Instant PL/SQL Scripts' as well.

Simon Anderson



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--- Bob Metelsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Simon,
 
  thanks for the plug, although it helps if you tell them the
  name of the book :)
 

 The suspense has been killing me since I posted

 I'm  about to go to Amazon.com and search for ddl ...

 ;-)


 Wait... Rachel, what is the name of the book?

 bob



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RE: iAS 1.0.2.2.2a vs 9iR2 db

2002-12-19 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
Thanks!

Last night I managed to make progress, now the OPCA complains that I don't
have fine-grained access in my database.  Will install this tonight, and I
think that'll be enough problems for the week.

: )

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Did you apply the 8.1.7.3, I think that's the right one, patch against
the iAS home?

Not that it helps with your install, but we have iAS 1.0.2.2.2a running
with a 9iR2 DB.  It was originally installed against 9iR1 and then the
DB was upgraded.  

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already done.

Well, more troubleshooting in order?

They also told me iAS 10.2.2.2a is not certified for XP, what a mess.

Pat.

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You need to set O7_DICTIONARY_ACCESSIBILITY=TRUE in the database.

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I know this is probably hopeless, but has anyone managed to let the
Oracle Portal Configuration Assistant bundled with iAS 1.0.2.2.2a for
win32 connect to a 9i database?

It wants to connect as SYS, and of course 9i only wants sys to connect
as sysdba.

This if for my home sandbox PC, I don't have enough RAM on it to install
ias 9iR2, so I am trying to jam iAS 1.0.2.2.2a in there.

If connections to 9i are not possible I suppose I will have to use
8.1.7.4.6. for that machine.

Patrice Boivin
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HP OmniB. + RMAN 8i

2002-12-19 Thread Vladimir Barac



Hello, Listers!

I have to do RMAN/Oracle/OmniBackII 
integration, in order to do backup of archived logs. 

Database itself is backed up to 
tapesafter mirror split, and that is not the 
problem.

Now it is time to do integration 
mentioned above... Any advices and experiences, scripts?

Thanks, 
Vladimir Barac



RMAN archived log

2002-12-19 Thread Vladimir Barac



Oracle 8.1.7

RMAN with no catalog db, only controlfile 
is used...

How do I remove entries from 
V$ARCHIVED_LOG;

After "backup archivelog all delete 
input",files are deleted from disk, and their status "deleted" in 
v$archived_log is set to "YES". But I want to completely remove entries from 
V$ARCHIVED_LOG.

So, is it possible?





RMAN scripts - archived logs

2002-12-19 Thread Vladimir Barac



Good day to 
everyone

Would somenone share their scripts used 
to backup archived logs using RMAN 8.1.7? The more complex, the 
better...

Thanks,
Vladimir 
Barac


HELP NEEDED IN FORMS6I OR FORMS9I DEVELOPMENT - WEB

2002-12-19 Thread Paulo Gomes
Hi people
Now it's my turn, i really need some help here.
I've got some forms developed in forms 6i (even some in forms 4.5) that are
working fine in client/server mode. But ... if i switch to web mode i will
lose loads of funtionalities here.
The real problem is:

How do i put the local devices like printers, scanners, fingerprint capture
devices, Bar Code capture devices and like working in a forms web
application???

It must be a way.

Thanks in advance.

Paulo Gomes
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Fw: Greeting

2002-12-19 Thread Vladimir Barac






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Re: SQL*PLUS and CygWin

2002-12-19 Thread Warren Lindsey
Before you run sqlplus, set the ComSpec env variable, like so:

set ComSpec=c:\usr\local\wbin\sh.exe

Next time you host out it will run this instead of the default 
ComSpec='C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'

HTH,
Warren Lindsey

Stefan Jahnke wrote:

Hi everybody

I'm using cywin on my Win2k box to get a reasonable shell. Now there's one
problem left: Everytime I issue a host command within SQL*PLUS, I get a
Windows console. I would like to get the bash prompt instead. Is there any

Any ideas ?

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Oracle and Peoplesoft

2002-12-19 Thread Panicker, Thankam S.
How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular database? Or
in other words what all  extra tasks
does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for a an Oracle
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Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?

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RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-19 Thread Bob Metelsky
 The original is SQL  PL/SQL Annotated Archives
 
 

Ahh yes... but the new version is/ seems to be 
Oracle9i Instant PL/SQL Scripts 

Book Description
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understand the behaviors created, and even extend usage through
customization.

I bought mine yesterday used for $15 I think that's a pretty good deal


http://www.iewww.com/content/0072132183


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Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread Bob Metelsky
All

I'm about to consider rolling out 9i here and I'm wondering what type of
footprint most people are seeing. In other words how large of an install
is a database administrators (enterprise edition)?

I've installed 9i at home on WINNT server, Win XP Pro and Suse Linux 8
all were about 2G. I also noticed that even if I tried to remove some
components I did not think I needed that the installation size/footprint
was not really affected

Also a worthwhile note is that my current (enterprise edition) install
of 8 17 on win2k server is about 1G 

This issue is we all run the same size drives here and really cant
afford to loose 2G 1G maybe 

So is it true that overall installing the Enterprise edition of 9i
that one could not expect to be much below 2G??

If not, we may have to add a drive for the dba's which is not going to
go over big.

thanks
Bob

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Re: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-19 Thread Igor Neyman
Yes, you wouldn't regret.

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  The original is SQL  PL/SQL Annotated Archives
  
  
 
 Ahh yes... but the new version is/ seems to be 
 Oracle9i Instant PL/SQL Scripts 
 
 Book Description
 From the authorized Oracle Press comes a complete guide to developing
 PL/SQL solutions quickly and easily. Inside, you'll find ready-to-run
 code and expert techniques with in-depth explanations that will help you
 understand the behaviors created, and even extend usage through
 customization.
 
 I bought mine yesterday used for $15 I think that's a pretty good deal
 
 
 http://www.iewww.com/content/0072132183
 
 
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Sql problem

2002-12-19 Thread Zsolt Csillag
Hi,


The following select does not work, I get ORA-00904 error message that
the AgentShare column does not exists.
It would be painful to write down every calculation many times because I can't
make a reference to a previous calculated colunm.

Select t.*,t.RowId

, CONTR_ROWS_MG - CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED OutStanding
, CONTRACT_SALESAGENT_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED / 100 AgentShare
,CONTRACT_SHARE_FIXED OtherShareFixed
,CONTRACT_SHARE_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED /100 
OtherSharePercentage

,AgentShare *2


From Contract_Rows T,Contract

Where Contract.Contract_Unique = t.contr_rows_contract_unique


Thank you in advance

Zsolt Csillag,
Hungary

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Re: Urgent: Trigger problem...

2002-12-19 Thread Adriano Freire
Joshua,

do you have permission to execute /usr/local/ActiveTcl/bin/tclsh on S.O?

Adriano

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 Could someone help me with this.

 I have a trigger in one table and the trigger should
 do one unix -command (tclsh).

 However I am facing following problem...

 OS return value: the Permission
 (java.io.FilePermission /usr/local/ActiveTcl/bin/tclsh
 execute) has not been granted to TEST.

 The PL/SQL to grant this is
 dbms_java.grant_permission( 'TEST',
 'SYS:java.io.FilePermission',
 '/usr/local/ActiveTcl/bin/tclsh', 'execute' )

 I ran the dbms_java.grant_permission pl/sql and it
 went through succesfully, however I am facing same
 problem...

 Any ideas, I am using 9iRel2...

 Thanx,
 Joshua

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Re: HP OmniB. + RMAN 8i

2002-12-19 Thread Stephane Paquette
I've spent some time trying to make it work between
Oracle 804/rman and Omniback2 hp10.20. 
The MML documentation was quite fuzzy. 

I hope it's easier with 8i.


 --- Vladimir Barac [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : 
Hello, Listers!
 
 I have to do RMAN/Oracle/OmniBackII integration, in
 order to do backup of archived logs. 
 
 Database itself is backed up to tapes after mirror
 split, and that is not the problem.
 
 Now it is time to do integration mentioned above...
 Any advices and experiences, scripts?
 
 Thanks, 
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RE: Sql problem

2002-12-19 Thread Stephane Faroult
Two possible answers : 42 and inline views.

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Hi,


The following select does not work, I get ORA-00904
error message that
the AgentShare column does not exists.
It would be painful to write down every calculation
many times because I can't
make a reference to a previous calculated colunm.

Select t.*,t.RowId

, CONTR_ROWS_MG - CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED
OutStanding
, CONTRACT_SALESAGENT_PERCENTAGE *
CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED / 100 AgentShare
,CONTRACT_SHARE_FIXED OtherShareFixed
,CONTRACT_SHARE_PERCENTAGE *
CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED /100 
OtherSharePercentage

,AgentShare *2


 From Contract_Rows T,Contract

Where Contract.Contract_Unique =
t.contr_rows_contract_unique


Thank you in advance

Zsolt Csillag,
Hungary

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problems with materialized view

2002-12-19 Thread Stephane Paquette
Hi,

On Oracle 8.1.7.2 /aix 4.3

Refreshing complete a MV took forever, I canceled them
after 10 hours.
Dropping and recreating it took 10 minutes.

On another MV, refreshing complete  uses over 1G temp
space, when dropping and recreating no temp tablespace
busting.

On smaller ones no difference between drop/create and
refresh.

The ones I've got problems with have query over 3
pages long.

Oracle bugs ?


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Bizzare behaviour of set oracle_sid=mysid

2002-12-19 Thread Bob Metelsky
Only in my office can this happen

Im checking into connecting to the db under the internal account

from a cmd prompt I set oracle_sid=mysid
C: set
oracle_sid=my_sid

C: connect internal

I see cmd issuing

sqlplusw system/password@othersid

So, I add a permanent env_variable called ORACLE_SID I set the value to
a bogus name eg mysid

go to cmd
C:set
ORACLE_SID=mysid
then I set ORACLE_sid=LOCDB
set
ORACLE_sid=LOCDB

then connect internal
I see cmd doing sqlplusw system/password@othersid

It fails because I dont have a tns entry for othersid


Where the heck is cmd getting the values for othersid??
any ideas?

thanks
bob
##
LOCDB SQL select version from v$instance;

VERSION
-
8.1.6.0.0
##

Below is my output of set

C:\set
ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users APPDATA=C:\Documents
and Settings\bmetelsky\Application Data CI_HOLOS_CLI=C:\Program
Files\Seagate Software\Open Olap\
CLASSPATH=D:\Programs\;C:\gnupg;C:\Oracle\Ora81\orb\classes\yoj.jar;C:\O
racle\Ora81\orb\classes\share.zi
CommonProgramFiles=C:\Program Files\Common Files COMPUTERNAME=CPS109
ComSpec=C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe
HOMEDRIVE=e:
HOMEPATH=\bob
LOGONSERVER=\\A_LOGON
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=1
oracle_home=C:\Oracle\Ora81
ORACLE_SID=LOCDB
OS=Windows_NT
Os2LibPath=C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;
Path=D:\Oracle\Ora81\bin;C:\vim\vim\vim60;D:\Perl\bin\;C:\Oracle\Ora81\b
in;C:\Oracle\Ora81\bin\bin80;C:\
am
Files\Oracle\jre\1.1.7\bin;C:\WINNT\system32;C:\WINNT;C:\WINNT\System32\
Wbem;C:\Oracle\Ora81\orb\bin;
ULTRAE~1 PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
PERLDB_OPTS=RemotePort=127.0.0.1:2000
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE=x86
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel
PROCESSOR_LEVEL=15 PROCESSOR_REVISION=000a ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
PROMPT=$P$G
SystemDrive=C:
SystemRoot=C:\WINNT
TEMP=C:\
TMP=C:\
USERDNSDOMAIN=MYDOMAIN
USERDOMAIN=MYDOMAIN
USERNAME=bmetelsky
USERPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\bmetelsky
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AW: SQL*PLUS and CygWin

2002-12-19 Thread Stefan Jahnke
Hi 

Great, thank you.

Stefan


 
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RE: Sql problem

2002-12-19 Thread Khedr, Waleed
Use inline views, create a view or use a cursor in a PL/sql block

Regards,

Waleed

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Hi,


The following select does not work, I get ORA-00904 error message that
the AgentShare column does not exists.
It would be painful to write down every calculation many times because I
can't
make a reference to a previous calculated colunm.

Select t.*,t.RowId

, CONTR_ROWS_MG - CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED OutStanding
, CONTRACT_SALESAGENT_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED / 100
AgentShare
,CONTRACT_SHARE_FIXED OtherShareFixed
,CONTRACT_SHARE_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED /100 
OtherSharePercentage

,AgentShare *2


 From Contract_Rows T,Contract

Where Contract.Contract_Unique = t.contr_rows_contract_unique


Thank you in advance

Zsolt Csillag,
Hungary

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Re: Oracle and Peoplesoft

2002-12-19 Thread Joan Hsieh
Hi Sumathy,

It is not too much different from oracle peoplesoft and regular dba.
Except you have to know more about peoplesoft components, peoplesoft
application server, process schedular, web server,weblogic.. there are
some peoplesoft courses I am highly recommend you to take,
Configuration and Administration  Data Management Tools and another
one  peoplesoft server administration on Unix/Oracle. They has a
website just like metlink. you need a customer id to access it. I feel
like as long as peoplesoft infrastucture setup correctly in the
beginning. It save a lot of time to troubleshoot later. As a
oracle/peoplesoft dba, you have to constantly deal with upgrade
poeplesoft tools, application, oracle. so clone the production database
is major thing to do. we are constantly refresh testing databases from
production. so automate those scripts are very helpful. 

Joan

Panicker, Thankam S. wrote:
 
 How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular database? Or
 in other words what all  extra tasks
 does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for a an Oracle
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 Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?
 
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RE: read only tablespaces

2002-12-19 Thread Fink, Dan
Ah, once again, we are deeply indebted to Jared for his 'perls' of wisdom...

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Or the Oxford Encyclopedic (sp?) Dictionary of the English Language
should you wish a truly authoritative source.  ;)





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I would suggest Funk  Wagnells or Webster's New College Edition
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which dictionary should I check to see whether a tablespace is read-only 
or read-write?
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AW: Sql problem

2002-12-19 Thread v . schoen
Try following:

Select t.*,t.RowId

, CONTR_ROWS_MG - CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED OutStanding
, CONTRACT_SALESAGENT_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED / 100
AgentShare ,CONTRACT_SHARE_FIXED OtherShareFixed ,CONTRACT_SHARE_PERCENTAGE
* CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED /100 
OtherSharePercentage

,(CONTRACT_SALESAGENT_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED / 100)*2
AgentShare2


 From Contract_Rows T,Contract

Where Contract.Contract_Unique = t.contr_rows_contract_unique

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Hi,


The following select does not work, I get ORA-00904 error message that the
AgentShare column does not exists. It would be painful to write down every
calculation many times because I can't make a reference to a previous
calculated colunm.

Select t.*,t.RowId

, CONTR_ROWS_MG - CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED OutStanding
, CONTRACT_SALESAGENT_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED / 100
AgentShare ,CONTRACT_SHARE_FIXED OtherShareFixed ,CONTRACT_SHARE_PERCENTAGE
* CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED /100 
OtherSharePercentage

,AgentShare *2


 From Contract_Rows T,Contract

Where Contract.Contract_Unique = t.contr_rows_contract_unique


Thank you in advance

Zsolt Csillag,
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Re: Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread Tim Gorman
When you say footprint of 9i, my mind automatically
flashes to the opening credits of Monty Python's Flying
Circus, in which the Liberty Bell March is terminated with
a large foot squashing down (*splat*)...

I'm not sure what type of systems you're running, but I
haven't seen drives smaller than 18G much lately.  Perhaps
its time to upgrade to a SAN anyway?  :-)  1G isn't all that
much to ask (especially if your production systems are
running in ARCHIVELOG mode), but your comments prove that
point that disk is cheap, until you try to justify the
purchase of more...


 All
 
 I'm about to consider rolling out 9i here and I'm
 wondering what type of footprint most people are seeing.
 In other words how large of an install is a database
 administrators (enterprise edition)? 
 I've installed 9i at home on WINNT server, Win XP Pro and
 Suse Linux 8 all were about 2G. I also noticed that even
 if I tried to remove some components I did not think I
 needed that the installation size/footprint was not really
 affected 
 Also a worthwhile note is that my current (enterprise
 edition) install of 8 17 on win2k server is about 1G 
 
 This issue is we all run the same size drives here and
 really cant afford to loose 2G 1G maybe 
 
 So is it true that overall installing the Enterprise
 edition of 9i that one could not expect to be much below
 2G?? 
 If not, we may have to add a drive for the dba's which is
 not going to go over big.
 
 thanks
 Bob
 
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RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-19 Thread Hemant K Chitale
Stephen,

The para. about pax vis-a-vis tar versus cpio was interesting !
I never knew that -- though the names do make sense now !
Hemant

At 06:39 AM 18-12-02 -0800, you wrote:


I will add a vote for cpio.  I have found it to be so reliable that I used
cpio, instead of a dump utility, to back up Unix boxes.  It never failed.
In the past, I found that tar had filename length limitation that was
shorter than what the OS permitted (80 characters iirc -- that's filename,
not path).  This happened when I worked in a development environment that
used Rogue Wave tools.  During software builds, files would be generated
with ridiculously long names, and tar could not handle these.  Time has
passed since the days I had to backup Unix servers, but iirc cpio could
correctly handle all types of special files (devices, etc.), and tar could
not (as I said, iirc).

If you are just experimenting, there is another utility called pax, which is
latin for peace, the idea being that it will bring peace to the Tar Wars
where tar2d2 is always fighting c3pio.  I get the impression that neither
group was willing to abandon its favorite utility and adopt pax, so the
fight goes on.


 -Original Message-

 Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying
 files to Tape.

 Another option is using ufsdump commnand .

  We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
  Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
 
  I did use tar command:
 
  tar c8v1 /home/oradata
 
  It's working properly but the problem is:
 
  tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
  The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
  more than 2GB.
 
  So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
 
  Could any body in the list give me the alternative
  command of tar that can handle backup of large files
  or any other solution...
 
  because I want to schedule this process.
 
  Your help will be appreciated.
 
  Regards,
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RE: RMAN scripts - archived logs

2002-12-19 Thread Stephen Lee

Attached (If the list supports attachments) are one for tape (Legato
Networker) and one for disk which later gets backed up by OS.  These are
generated by a ksh backup script every time the script runs.  The disk
backup does not use a catalog server; so you have the line at the end that
backs up the control file.


-Original Message-
 Would somenone share their scripts used to backup
 archived logs




disk_backup_arch.rcv
Description: Binary data


tape_backup_arch.rcv
Description: Binary data


Re: iAS 1.0.2.2.2a vs 9iR2 db

2002-12-19 Thread Hemant K Chitale

You'd need to set O7_DICTIONARY_ACCESSIBILITY to TRUE.
Hemant
At 08:39 AM 18-12-02 -0800, you wrote:

I know this is probably hopeless, but has anyone managed to let the Oracle
Portal Configuration Assistant bundled with iAS 1.0.2.2.2a for win32 connect
to a 9i database?

It wants to connect as SYS, and of course 9i only wants sys to connect as
sysdba.

This if for my home sandbox PC, I don't have enough RAM on it to install ias
9iR2, so I am trying to jam iAS 1.0.2.2.2a in there.

If connections to 9i are not possible I suppose I will have to use
8.1.7.4.6. for that machine.

Patrice Boivin
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RE: read only tablespaces

2002-12-19 Thread Shao, Chunning
Is this group suppose to be helpful or for some people just to show their ego?

I do not know something you think is obvious, but I also know something you might not 
know, which to me is quite easy.  It is a learning process, isn't it?  

One thing I notice is, for some really learned person, they are really nice and 
patient.  For those people who is mean, are you really that knowledgable?



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Ah, once again, we are deeply indebted to Jared for his 'perls' of wisdom...

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Or the Oxford Encyclopedic (sp?) Dictionary of the English Language
should you wish a truly authoritative source.  ;)





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I would suggest Funk  Wagnells or Webster's New College Edition
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which dictionary should I check to see whether a tablespace is read-only 
or read-write?
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Re:Oracle and Peoplesoft

2002-12-19 Thread dgoulet
While we're on the subject of Oracle and PeopleSoft, has anyone out there in a
PeopleSoft environment turned on password aging?  If so, how did PeopleSoft
react?

Dick Goulet

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How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular database? Or
in other words what all  extra tasks
does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for a an Oracle
DBA to transition into a Peoplesoft environment?

Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?

I would highly appreciate your comments and suggestions.

TIA
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RE: Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread Grant Allen
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 Metelsky
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 Subject: Footprint of 9i


 All

 I'm about to consider rolling out 9i here and I'm wondering
 what type of
 footprint most people are seeing. In other words how large of
 an install
 is a database administrators (enterprise edition)?

 I've installed 9i at home on WINNT server, Win XP Pro and Suse Linux 8
 all were about 2G. I also noticed that even if I tried to remove some
 components I did not think I needed that the installation
 size/footprint
 was not really affected

 Also a worthwhile note is that my current (enterprise edition) install
 of 8 17 on win2k server is about 1G

 This issue is we all run the same size drives here and really cant
 afford to loose 2G 1G maybe

 So is it true that overall installing the Enterprise edition of 9i
 that one could not expect to be much below 2G??

 If not, we may have to add a drive for the dba's which is not going to
 go over big.

 thanks
 Bob

Bob,

No surprises, you're not alone.

The easiest 400MB to 500MB to remove are the templates and demo files for
the starter instances and schemas.

Try deleting %ORACLE_HOME%\assistants\dbca\templates\* to free up 300MB
(these are the 'OLTP' and 'Data warehouse' templates used by the dbassist
tool - if you don't use them for creating instances, get rid of them), and
%ORACLE_HOME%\demo\schema\* to free up 100MB of the scripts used to create
the sample schemas - again if you don't use them.

There might be more that can be removed ... doco and the like ... but that's
a start.

Ciao
Fuzzy
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RE: Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread Stephen Lee

On Tru64 5.1

/oracle/app/oracle/product du -sk 9.2.0
4601900 9.2.0

There are multiple DBA's here that have a hand in this, so I don't know how
much fiddling with the Apache stuff has been done (probably not much).  At
this time, there is only one 9.2 database on the box, and it is
experimental, so I don't think there are a bunch of network logs that have
piled up.  I think this installation everything including the kitchen
sink, so I would think this size would be near the upper limit.

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 Subject: Footprint of 9i
 
 
 All
 
 I'm about to consider rolling out 9i here and I'm wondering 
 what type of
 footprint most people are seeing. In other words how large of 
 an install
 is a database administrators (enterprise edition)?
 
 I've installed 9i at home on WINNT server, Win XP Pro and Suse Linux 8
 all were about 2G. I also noticed that even if I tried to remove some
 components I did not think I needed that the installation 
 size/footprint
 was not really affected
 
 Also a worthwhile note is that my current (enterprise edition) install
 of 8 17 on win2k server is about 1G 
 
 This issue is we all run the same size drives here and really cant
 afford to loose 2G 1G maybe 
 
 So is it true that overall installing the Enterprise edition of 9i
 that one could not expect to be much below 2G??
 
 If not, we may have to add a drive for the dba's which is not going to
 go over big.
 
 thanks
 Bob
 
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Re: HP OmniB. + RMAN 8i

2002-12-19 Thread Ruth Gramolini
RMAN in 8.0.4 was fuzzy in a lot of ways. 8.0.5.1 is better, 8.0.6.3 better
still, and 8i is much like 8.0.6.3.

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I've spent some time trying to make it work between
Oracle 804/rman and Omniback2 hp10.20.
The MML documentation was quite fuzzy.

I hope it's easier with 8i.


 --- Vladimir Barac [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : 
Hello, Listers!

 I have to do RMAN/Oracle/OmniBackII integration, in
 order to do backup of archived logs.

 Database itself is backed up to tapes after mirror
 split, and that is not the problem.

 Now it is time to do integration mentioned above...
 Any advices and experiences, scripts?

 Thanks,
 Vladimir Barac


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Re: Sql problem

2002-12-19 Thread Tim Gorman
Zsolt,

In Oracle9i, you might be able to make use of the new WITH
syntax:

  SQL with xxx as
2 (select 1+2 calc from dual)
3  select calc*2 from xxx;

  CALC*2
  --
   6


It might cut down on typographic errors (if not syntax
complexity) from repeatedly retyping the same complex
formula...

Hope this helps...

-Tim

 Hi,
 
 
 The following select does not work, I get ORA-00904 error
 message that the AgentShare column does not exists.
 It would be painful to write down every calculation many
 times because I can't make a reference to a previous
 calculated colunm. 
 Select t.*,t.RowId
 
 , CONTR_ROWS_MG - CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED OutStanding
 , CONTRACT_SALESAGENT_PERCENTAGE *
 CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED / 100 AgentShare
 ,CONTRACT_SHARE_FIXED OtherShareFixed
 ,CONTRACT_SHARE_PERCENTAGE * CONTR_ROWS_GROSS_RECEIVED
 /100  OtherSharePercentage
 
 ,AgentShare *2
 
 
  From Contract_Rows T,Contract
 
 Where Contract.Contract_Unique =
 t.contr_rows_contract_unique 
 
 Thank you in advance
 
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Re: Where's that last archive log?

2002-12-19 Thread Hemant K Chitale

In theory you should always be able to do an Incomplete Recovery
[until the latest archive log you have available] provided that no database
file was still in backup mode till a point in time after the last archive log.

How do you backup your tablespaces ?
Which archive logs are included in your D.R. backups ?  You must
have all the archive logs generated till the last END BACKUP command
of that database backup set.
Else, you'd have to restore an _OLDER_ backup set and do an incomplete
recovery.

Hemant
At 01:46 PM 18-12-02 -0800, you wrote:

We do disaster recovery tests from time to time with a limited set of
backups.  We make an educated quess as to the time to recover but it doesn't
always work.  If I give Oracle a point in time to recover and then run out
of archive logs how do I tell Oracle that that's all I have and recover with
what is available?  I have tried recover until cancel but Oracle always
seems to need another archive log.  It usually says the System file needs to
be recovered.  If I have all the archive logs it works fine.

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Re: Bizzare behaviour of set oracle_sid=mysid

2002-12-19 Thread Hemant K Chitale

Are you executing connect internal at the CMD C: prompt ?
Shouldn't it be in the sqlplus prompt ?
See if you've somehow got a CONNECT.BAT file in your path.
If you are executing C: connect internal,
you are probably executing CONNECT.BAT [or CONNECT.EXE
or CONNECT.COM]
Hemant
At 06:39 AM 19-12-02 -0800, you wrote:

Only in my office can this happen

Im checking into connecting to the db under the internal account

from a cmd prompt I set oracle_sid=mysid
C: set
oracle_sid=my_sid

C: connect internal

I see cmd issuing

sqlplusw system/password@othersid

So, I add a permanent env_variable called ORACLE_SID I set the value to
a bogus name eg mysid

go to cmd
C:set
ORACLE_SID=mysid
then I set ORACLE_sid=LOCDB
set
ORACLE_sid=LOCDB

then connect internal
I see cmd doing sqlplusw system/password@othersid

It fails because I dont have a tns entry for othersid


Where the heck is cmd getting the values for othersid??
any ideas?

thanks
bob
##
LOCDB SQL select version from v$instance;

VERSION
-
8.1.6.0.0
##

Below is my output of set

C:\set
ALLUSERSPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\All Users APPDATA=C:\Documents
and Settings\bmetelsky\Application Data CI_HOLOS_CLI=C:\Program
Files\Seagate Software\Open Olap\
CLASSPATH=D:\Programs\;C:\gnupg;C:\Oracle\Ora81\orb\classes\yoj.jar;C:\O
racle\Ora81\orb\classes\share.zi
CommonProgramFiles=C:\Program Files\Common Files COMPUTERNAME=CPS109
ComSpec=C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe
HOMEDRIVE=e:
HOMEPATH=\bob
LOGONSERVER=\\A_LOGON
NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=1
oracle_home=C:\Oracle\Ora81
ORACLE_SID=LOCDB
OS=Windows_NT
Os2LibPath=C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll;
Path=D:\Oracle\Ora81\bin;C:\vim\vim\vim60;D:\Perl\bin\;C:\Oracle\Ora81\b
in;C:\Oracle\Ora81\bin\bin80;C:\
am
Files\Oracle\jre\1.1.7\bin;C:\WINNT\system32;C:\WINNT;C:\WINNT\System32\
Wbem;C:\Oracle\Ora81\orb\bin;
ULTRAE~1 PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH
PERLDB_OPTS=RemotePort=127.0.0.1:2000
PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE=x86
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 15 Model 0 Stepping 10, GenuineIntel
PROCESSOR_LEVEL=15 PROCESSOR_REVISION=000a ProgramFiles=C:\Program Files
PROMPT=$P$G
SystemDrive=C:
SystemRoot=C:\WINNT
TEMP=C:\
TMP=C:\
USERDNSDOMAIN=MYDOMAIN
USERDOMAIN=MYDOMAIN
USERNAME=bmetelsky
USERPROFILE=C:\Documents and Settings\bmetelsky
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Spool output issue on solaris

2002-12-19 Thread OraCop
This is  what i am doing:

1- login to sqlplus on solaris
2- spool temp.out
3- run an sql file useing: @myfile.sql
   Sql file contains this:
 set termout off
 set head off   
 set echo off   
 set feedback off   
select * from dual;
 set termout on   
 set head on 
 set echo on   
 set feedback on
4- spool off
Spool file has expected output,  which is result of 
sql statement ONLY! 

Now when i place following in a shell script and run
it

#!/bin/ksh

$ORACLE_HOME/bin/sqlplus liserv/liserv@webny  EOF
set feedback off
set head off
set echo off
set termout off
spool output.txt
   select * from dual;
spool off
set feedback on
set head on
set echo on   
set termout on
exit;
___   
 
Now question is that in later case where i use shell
script along with out put of query , WHY DO I SEE THE
ACTUAL SQL STATEMENT IN SPOOL FILE ALSO? Even though i
have feedback, echo and termout off .

Any way around.

I want ONLY output of query in spool file when sql
file is run using a SHELL SCRIPT!.

Thanks.


  




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RE: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, with LOB

2002-12-19 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, with LOB





in our 9202 RAC we have everything except SYSTEM,UNDO in AUTO and have NO problems at all. We have 7 such instances (all RAC, all 9202 except for on which is 9012). 4 Instances use CLOBs and intermedia extensively, one of these uses XML  CLOB combination never faced any problems.

Vivek, what problem you faced (or still facing), are those bugs?


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As part of a RAC benchmark with 9.2 we had faced severe LOCKING 
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Spool file behavior on Solaris

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This is what i am doing:


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Re: Direct and indirect foreign key relationships in SQL or Pl/Sql

2002-12-19 Thread Ruth Gramolini
Here is a script that I got from on of the lists.  It should do what you
want.
Ruth

select a.constraint_name, a.r_constraint_name, a.table_name, b.table_name
 from dba_constraints a,
dba_constraints b
where a.owner='YOUR_OWNER'
and a.R_CONSTRAINT_NAME  is not null
and a.R_constraint_name=b.constraint_name
order by a.table_name;


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 How do I find out the direct and indirect foreign key relationships?
 Say, for example there are four tables A, B, C and D of which A is the
 parent table and B, C and D are child tables.  Say B and C are related to
A
 directly and D is related to A through C.  How do I find out this indirect
 relationship apart from the direct relationships?  Any help in this regard
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RE: Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread John.Hallas
Nearly 4Gb on Solaris 2.8. Pretty much a full selection installed

John

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On Tru64 5.1

/oracle/app/oracle/product du -sk 9.2.0
4601900 9.2.0

There are multiple DBA's here that have a hand in this, so I don't know how
much fiddling with the Apache stuff has been done (probably not much).  At
this time, there is only one 9.2 database on the box, and it is
experimental, so I don't think there are a bunch of network logs that have
piled up.  I think this installation everything including the kitchen
sink, so I would think this size would be near the upper limit.

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 Subject: Footprint of 9i
 
 
 All
 
 I'm about to consider rolling out 9i here and I'm wondering 
 what type of
 footprint most people are seeing. In other words how large of 
 an install
 is a database administrators (enterprise edition)?
 
 I've installed 9i at home on WINNT server, Win XP Pro and Suse Linux 8
 all were about 2G. I also noticed that even if I tried to remove some
 components I did not think I needed that the installation 
 size/footprint
 was not really affected
 
 Also a worthwhile note is that my current (enterprise edition) install
 of 8 17 on win2k server is about 1G 
 
 This issue is we all run the same size drives here and really cant
 afford to loose 2G 1G maybe 
 
 So is it true that overall installing the Enterprise edition of 9i
 that one could not expect to be much below 2G??
 
 If not, we may have to add a drive for the dba's which is not going to
 go over big.
 
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Restoring DB from specific RMAN backup set.

2002-12-19 Thread Paul Heely
How can I restore a database from a specific RMAN backup set?  We have a
database running in no archive log mode that is backed up with RMAN.
There is an RMAN catalog DB also.

If I look at the backup summary I see:
List of Database Incarnations
DB Key  Inc Key DB Name  DB IDCUR Reset SCN  Reset Time
--- ---   --- -- --
37  38  DB2  1600772452   NO  1  15-NOV-02
37  256 DB2  1600772452   NO  259591 23-NOV-02
37  627 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  654 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  712 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  680 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  764 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 11-DEC-02
37  816 DB2  1600772452   YES 823456 18-DEC-02
37  893 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 19-DEC-02

The backup summary list looks like:
List of Backups
===
Key TY LV S Device Type Completion Time #Pieces #Copies Tag
--- -- -- - --- --- --- --- ---
47  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
63  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
WORKFLOW_AND_PORTAL
306 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
314 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
404 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
FULL_BACKUP_9014_PATCH
413 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
729 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
FULL_DB_INSTALLED
749 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
791 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1   WF_TESTING
811 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1
867 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1   SW_MIGRATION
888 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1

I've tried resetting the database to incarnation 816, but when I restore
the control file and data files from that it is not what I think it
should be.  I end up with FULL_DB_INSTALLED.  I can restore the control
file I want from the auto backup file.  How can I then tell RMAN to
restore the data files associated with either backup set 791
(tag=WF_TESTING)?

Thanks.
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Spool file output

2002-12-19 Thread OraCop
This is  what i am doing:

1- login to sqlplus on solaris
2- spool temp.out
3- run an sql file useing: @myfile.sql
   Sql file contains this:
 set termout off
set head off   
set echo off   
set feedback off   
set pagesize 0 
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Simple Query for Week number

2002-12-19 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Hey Folks,

Looking for the simplest of queries to find the week number, given a date.
For example, 19th December 2002 falls in the 3rd week, whereas 19th
November, 2002, falls in the 4th week.

Thanks
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RE: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin Lange



How about running a script just before the 
backup that 
 1) Reads the current log 
number.
 2) Forces a log switch.
 3) Copies the logs to a seperate 
directory.
 4) Backups up that seperate 
directory

Leave the archive directory alone. Do 
not back it up.

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  kinda OT: veritas netbackup
  RESEND: never saw it get posted:
  
  Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?
  
  Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive 
  logs, the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a 
  partially written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.
  
  is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
  groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
  numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
  complete?
  
  ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
  oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, 
  that we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is 
  complete?
  
  thanks, joe
  


RE: read only tablespaces

2002-12-19 Thread Orr, Steve
Title: RE: read only tablespaces





Here's the specific SQL query that needs to be run:


select translate('LNOPQSUVWXYZBCDEGHIJKn;8!###)n9/)3l9)jku9)vum1@',
 '8#)n!9/3lvjkum1;@LNOPQSUVWXYZBCDEGHIJK',
 'F. aRMedthmfinulT!') Well...
from DICTIONARY
where table_name='DICTIONARY'
/



:-) :-) :-) 




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Personally I would try dba_tablespaces and check the status column... online, offline or read only. If it's online, it's read-write, read only speaks for itself.

Good to see sarcasm hasn't left the list.
Regards, 
Bill Burke 
The Kinder and Gentler DBA 
www.OracleGuru.com 
www.KBMotorsports.biz 
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I would suggest Funk  Wagnells or Webster's New College Edition
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which dictionary should I check to see whether a tablespace is read-only or read-write?
thanks for your help.





strange error on DBMS_STATS

2002-12-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I'm running dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats, the account running it is
NOT the schema owner, but DOES have the analyze any privilege and has
read/write access to all the tables in the schema. We are not trying to
gather stats into our own tables, just want the stats refreshed after
the (massive) loads into the DW tables.

This has been running fine, then all of a sudden last night we started
getting ORA-1031 (insufficient privileges) errors. Now, according to
the docs:

ORA-01031 insufficient privileges

Cause: An attempt was made to change the current username or
password without the appropriate privilege. This error also occurs if
attempting to install a database without the necessary operating system
privileges.


We are not changing passwords, so I am presuming that this involves
(somehow) a change of username. According to the package header, it
will throw an ORA-2 if there are insufficent privileges. We rebuilt
an index yesterday but did NOT change or add any table.

I had this happen once before, on a different database, never solved
it, but substituted dbms_utility.analyze_schema which worked. I can do
the same thing this time but I'd prefer to solve it.

Anyone ever see anything like this before?

oh yeah  9.2.0.1 on Solaris 8

Rachel



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RE: Bizzare behaviour of set oracle_sid=mysid

2002-12-19 Thread Bob Metelsky
Humm obivioiously Im missing a few brain cells here
Yes, I should know there isnt an exe called connect that would be native
to the envioriment outside of oracle.

Yes, there was a connect.bat in the path 
Duh...

Ok, so lets see how many more vacant brain cells I have
 now if I log on to sql+ with a dba account (has all privilidges)

###
LOCDB SQL connect / as sysdba 
Or
LOCDB SQL connect / internal

ERROR:
ORA-12560: TNS:protocol adapter error


Warning: You are no longer connected to ORACLE.

LOCDB SQL select * from global_name;
Not connected

###

Why does this happen?

The bottom line is Im trying to connect as internal w/o the password 

###
C:\set oracle_sid=LOCDB

C:\svrmgrl

Oracle Server Manager Release 3.1.6.0.0 - Production

Copyright (c) 1997, 1999, Oracle Corporation.  All Rights Reserved.

Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production
With the Partitioning option
JServer Release 8.1.6.0.0 - Production

SVRMGR connect internal
Password:

I can however connect internal/password

Thanks for being paitent

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Re: Spool file output

2002-12-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
and your problem is?

I run spool files on solaris all the time. What exactly is going wrong?


--- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is  what i am doing:
 
 1- login to sqlplus on solaris
 2- spool temp.out
 3- run an sql file useing: @myfile.sql
Sql file contains this:
  set termout off
 set head off   
 set echo off   
 set feedback off   
 set pagesize 0 
 4- spool off
 
 
 
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What Bonnie's benchmark should we expect for RAID 0+1

2002-12-19 Thread Xie, Tom
Hello,

We have a Compaq AlphaServer 8400 with 8 GB RAM, 8 dual 625mhz CPUs and 
two HSZ70 Array Controllers. Each Controller is connected to 24 36GB 
10K rpm Ultr SCSI disk divers. In the system, some volums are 
configured as RAID 1, and the others are configured as RAID 0+1
with 3 striping. However, we can't see significant performance 
improvement in RAID 0+1 volums except random seek. The following are
the Bonnie's benchmarks for two kinds of volums:

For RAID 1:

  ---Sequential Output ---Sequential Input--
--Random--
  -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block---
--Seeks---
MachineMB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec
%CPU
RAID11024  9029 55.1  9108 14.3  8956 15.6 15700 89.4 115531 99.9 2535.2
65.9

For RAID 0+1:

  ---Sequential Output ---Sequential Input--
--Random--
  -Per Char- --Block--- -Rewrite-- -Per Char- --Block---
--Seeks---
MachineMB K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU K/sec %CPU  /sec
%CPU
RAID01   1024  9780 58.8  9872 17.1 14067 25.7 15990 89.7 56037 59.5 5374.3
169.9

Is there something wrong? What Bonnie's benchmark should we expect 
for RAID 0+1?

Thanks,
Tom
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RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-19 Thread Stephen Lee

It's one of those Unix things.  It goes with the beard and the bad-fitting
trousers held up by suspenders.


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 Stephen,
 
 The para. about pax vis-a-vis tar versus cpio was interesting !
 I never knew that -- though the names do make sense now !
 Hemant
 
 At 06:39 AM 18-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
 
 I will add a vote for cpio.  I have found it to be so 
 reliable that I used
 cpio, instead of a dump utility, to back up Unix boxes.  It 
 never failed.
 In the past, I found that tar had filename length limitation that was
 shorter than what the OS permitted (80 characters iirc -- 
 that's filename,
 not path).  This happened when I worked in a development 
 environment that
 used Rogue Wave tools.  During software builds, files would 
 be generated
 with ridiculously long names, and tar could not handle 
 these.  Time has
 passed since the days I had to backup Unix servers, but iirc 
 cpio could
 correctly handle all types of special files (devices, etc.), 
 and tar could
 not (as I said, iirc).
 
 If you are just experimenting, there is another utility 
 called pax, which is
 latin for peace, the idea being that it will bring peace to 
 the Tar Wars
 where tar2d2 is always fighting c3pio.  I get the impression 
 that neither
 group was willing to abandon its favorite utility and adopt 
 pax, so the
 fight goes on.
 
 
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   Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying
   files to Tape.
  
   Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
  
We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
   
I did use tar command:
   
tar c8v1 /home/oradata
   
It's working properly but the problem is:
   
tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
more than 2GB.
   
So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
   
Could any body in the list give me the alternative
command of tar that can handle backup of large files
or any other solution...
   
because I want to schedule this process.
   
Your help will be appreciated.
   
Regards,
ashraf salaymeh
System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
   
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Re: Oracle and Peoplesoft

2002-12-19 Thread John . Dailey

I would agree with Joan  - we spend lots of time refreshing databases here.
We were responsible for all of the application servers, web servers,
process schedulers, etc. until a technical architecture team was formed.
That has helped tremendously since my team can concentrate on the Oracle
side. We have a very large Peoplesoft Financials environment here
(along with HR and budgets) so we have lots to keep busy with and
opportunities to use additional Oracle functionality (we have a large
replicated environment, use lots of partitioning, etc) . I would also
recommend you at least take a PeopleTools course or one of the
administration courses mentioned by Joan so you understand how Peoplesoft
stores and uses metadata.As far as book recommendations the only decent
book that I have is the Peoplesoft Administrator's Guide by Darrell
Bilbrey which is good for someone new to Peoplesoft.  We really do most
of the normal functions that any DBA would do regardless of Peoplesoft.
Database still has to be backed up, tuned, and maintained like any other
Oracle database - I consider myself to be an Oracle/Peoplesoft DBA, not a
Peoplesoft/Oracle DBA if that helps you any.

You will also learn to hate PS Query if your users have ad-hoc query
access.:-)

John Dailey
Oracle DBA
ING Americas - Application Services
Atlanta, GA








   

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Hi Sumathy,

It is not too much different from oracle peoplesoft and regular dba.
Except you have to know more about peoplesoft components, peoplesoft
application server, process schedular, web server,weblogic.. there are
some peoplesoft courses I am highly recommend you to take,
Configuration and Administration  Data Management Tools and another
one  peoplesoft server administration on Unix/Oracle. They has a
website just like metlink. you need a customer id to access it. I feel
like as long as peoplesoft infrastucture setup correctly in the
beginning. It save a lot of time to troubleshoot later. As a
oracle/peoplesoft dba, you have to constantly deal with upgrade
poeplesoft tools, application, oracle. so clone the production database
is major thing to do. we are constantly refresh testing databases from
production. so automate those scripts are very helpful.

Joan

Panicker, Thankam S. wrote:

 How different is an Oracle Peoplesoft database from a regular database?
Or
 in other words what all  extra tasks
 does an Oracle Peoplesoft DBA do? How easy/difficult is it for a an
Oracle
 DBA to transition into a Peoplesoft environment?

 Are there any good books/ websites on this subject?

 I would highly appreciate your comments and suggestions.

 TIA
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Re: Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread Yechiel Adar
Oracle 9.2.0.1 on NT:

Demo files 80MB.
Starter databases - 300MB

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bob
  Metelsky
  Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 13:49
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: Footprint of 9i
 
 
  All
 
  I'm about to consider rolling out 9i here and I'm wondering
  what type of
  footprint most people are seeing. In other words how large of
  an install
  is a database administrators (enterprise edition)?
 
  I've installed 9i at home on WINNT server, Win XP Pro and Suse Linux 8
  all were about 2G. I also noticed that even if I tried to remove some
  components I did not think I needed that the installation
  size/footprint
  was not really affected
 
  Also a worthwhile note is that my current (enterprise edition) install
  of 8 17 on win2k server is about 1G
 
  This issue is we all run the same size drives here and really cant
  afford to loose 2G 1G maybe
 
  So is it true that overall installing the Enterprise edition of 9i
  that one could not expect to be much below 2G??
 
  If not, we may have to add a drive for the dba's which is not going to
  go over big.
 
  thanks
  Bob

 Bob,

 No surprises, you're not alone.

 The easiest 400MB to 500MB to remove are the templates and demo files for
 the starter instances and schemas.

 Try deleting %ORACLE_HOME%\assistants\dbca\templates\* to free up 300MB
 (these are the 'OLTP' and 'Data warehouse' templates used by the dbassist
 tool - if you don't use them for creating instances, get rid of them), and
 %ORACLE_HOME%\demo\schema\* to free up 100MB of the scripts used to create
 the sample schemas - again if you don't use them.

 There might be more that can be removed ... doco and the like ... but
that's
 a start.

 Ciao
 Fuzzy
 :-)



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RE: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, with LOB

2002-12-19 Thread Loughmiller, Greg



We 
were the other way around in our testing lately:-)

We 
turned on auto space management to remove the contention. Afterwards-we removed 
quite a bit of header block/free list contention..

anyway, more tests to follow

  -Original Message-From: VIVEK_SHARMA 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 
  10:09 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, with LOB
  
  As part of a RAC benchmark with 9.2 we had faced severe LOCKING 
  
  on setting segment space management AUTO  had to REMOVE it 
  
  
  HTH
  
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8:09 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, 
with LOBIn the 9i SQL Reference Guide Release 2 
9.2,under "CREATE TABLESPACE", 
"segment_management_clause"Restrictions on the AUTO 
clause:·You 
can specify this clause only for permanent, locally managed tablespace. 
·You 
cannot specify this clause for the SYSTEM 
tablespace. In the 9i Application Developer's Guide - 
Large Objects (LOBs) Release 2 9.2,the chapter "What's New with Large 
Objects (LOBs) ?", under"LOB Features Introduced with Oracle 9i, Release 
2 (9.2)" ,under "Removed Restrictions" :Locally managed 
tablespaces restriction removed You can now create LOB columns 
in locally managed tablespaces.Also, in the 9iRelease2 9.2.0 
Administrator's Guide,Chapter 11 "Managing Tablespaces", there is no 
restriction on LOBsfor Segment_Space_Management AUTO. [here, too, 
there's a lineindicating Segment_Space_Management AUTO is preferred for 
RACenvironments]Specifying Segment 
Space Management in Locally Managed TablespacesWhen you 
create a locally managed tablespace using the CREATE TABLESPACE statement, the SEGMENT SPACE 
MANAGEMENT clause allows you to specify how free and used space within a 
segment is to be managed. Your choices are:·MANUAL 

  Specifying MANUAL tells Oracle that 
  you want to use free lists for managing free space within segments. Free 
  lists are lists of data blocks that have space available for inserting 
  rows. This form of managing space within segments is called manual 
  segment-space management because of the need to specify and tune the 
  PCTUSED, FREELISTS, and FREELISTS GROUPS storage parameters for schema 
  objects created in the tablespace.
  MANUAL is the default. ·AUTO 

  This keyword tells Oracle that you want to use bitmaps to manage the 
  free space within segments. A bitmap, in this case, is a map that 
  describes the status of each data block within a segment with respect to 
  the amount of space in the block available for inserting rows. As more or 
  less space becomes available in a data block, its new state is reflected 
  in the bitmap. Bitmaps allow Oracle to manage free space more 
  automatically, and thus, this form of space management is called automatic 
  segment-space management.Automatic segment-space 
management is a simpler and more efficient way of managing space within a 
segment. It completely eliminates any need to specify and tune the PCTUSED, FREELISTS, and FREELISTS GROUPS storage 
parameters for schema objects created in the tablespace. If such attributes 
should be specified, they are ignored.Automatic segment-space 
management delivers better space utilization than manual segment-space 
management, and it is self tuning in that it scales with increasing the 
number of users, as well as instances. For a Real Application Clusters 
environment, automatic segment-space management allows for a dynamic 
affinity of space to instances, thus avoiding the hard partitioning of space 
inherent with using free list groups.For many standard workloads, 
application performance when using automatic segment space management is 
better than the performance of a well tuned application using manual 
segment-space management.Bottomline : Either it was a bug or a 
restriction, it was not possible in 9.0.1 and supposed to be possible in 
9.2.0 --- definitelyworks in 9.2.0.2Why do you say "In a single 
instance environment unless you are doing something out of the ordinary, use 
of the clause will probably be detrimental. " 
?HemantAt 03:03 PM 14-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
Was the prohibitition on placing 
  LOB's into tablespaces with automatic segment space management only a 
  bug. I ask because the description of "auto" segment 
  space management includes the following restrictionsRestrictions 
  on AUTO: * You can specify this clause only for 
  permanent, locally managed tablespace. * You 
  cannot specify this clause for the SYSTEM tablespace.* You cannot 
  

Re: Restoring DB from specific RMAN backup set.

2002-12-19 Thread Ruth Gramolini
As long as you haven't opened the database with resetlogs between the time
of the backup you want and the present you can just restore it and recover,
using backup controlfile, until cancel.
If you have opened it with resetlogs, you will have to change the
incarnation of the database,  Consult the documentation and if that doesn't
help, open a TAR,'

HTH,
Ruth
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 How can I restore a database from a specific RMAN backup set?  We have a
 database running in no archive log mode that is backed up with RMAN.
 There is an RMAN catalog DB also.

 If I look at the backup summary I see:
 List of Database Incarnations
 DB Key  Inc Key DB Name  DB IDCUR Reset SCN  Reset Time
 --- ---   --- -- --
 37  38  DB2  1600772452   NO  1  15-NOV-02
 37  256 DB2  1600772452   NO  259591 23-NOV-02
 37  627 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
 37  654 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
 37  712 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
 37  680 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
 37  764 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 11-DEC-02
 37  816 DB2  1600772452   YES 823456 18-DEC-02
 37  893 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 19-DEC-02

 The backup summary list looks like:
 List of Backups
 ===
 Key TY LV S Device Type Completion Time #Pieces #Copies Tag
 --- -- -- - --- --- --- --- ---
 47  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
 63  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
 WORKFLOW_AND_PORTAL
 306 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
 314 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
 404 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
 FULL_BACKUP_9014_PATCH
 413 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
 729 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
 FULL_DB_INSTALLED
 749 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
 791 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1   WF_TESTING
 811 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1
 867 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1   SW_MIGRATION
 888 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1

 I've tried resetting the database to incarnation 816, but when I restore
 the control file and data files from that it is not what I think it
 should be.  I end up with FULL_DB_INSTALLED.  I can restore the control
 file I want from the auto backup file.  How can I then tell RMAN to
 restore the data files associated with either backup set 791
 (tag=WF_TESTING)?

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kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread JOE TESTA



RESEND: never saw it get posted:

Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?

Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive logs, 
the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a partially 
written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.

is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the numebr 
of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
complete?

ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, that 
we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is complete?

thanks, joe



RE: Methods to get DDL

2002-12-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I did not work on the new version, so I have no comments on what is or
is not in there -- I don't know how much was removed, added or changed.


--- Bob Metelsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The original is SQL  PL/SQL Annotated Archives
  
  
 
 Ahh yes... but the new version is/ seems to be 
 Oracle9i Instant PL/SQL Scripts 
 
 Book Description
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 PL/SQL solutions quickly and easily. Inside, you'll find ready-to-run
 code and expert techniques with in-depth explanations that will help
 you
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 I bought mine yesterday used for $15 I think that's a pretty good
 deal
 
 
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RE: Spool file output

2002-12-19 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
OK.

Is there a question or comment here someplace?


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This is  what i am doing:

1- login to sqlplus on solaris
2- spool temp.out
3- run an sql file useing: @myfile.sql
   Sql file contains this:
 set termout off
set head off   
set echo off   
set feedback off   
set pagesize 0 
4- spool off



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RE: Spool file behavior on Solaris

2002-12-19 Thread Fink, Dan
The solution is:


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hello,
This is what i am doing:


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FW: HELP NEEDED IN FORMS6I OR FORMS9I DEVELOPMENT - WEB

2002-12-19 Thread Paulo Gomes


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 Sent: quinta-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2002 12:50
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 Subject:  HELP NEEDED IN FORMS6I OR FORMS9I DEVELOPMENT - WEB
 
 Hi people
 Now it's my turn, i really need some help here.
 I've got some forms developed in forms 6i (even some in forms 4.5) that
 are working fine in client/server mode. But ... if i switch to web mode i
 will lose loads of funtionalities here.
 The real problem is:
 
 How do i put the local devices like printers, scanners, fingerprint
 capture devices, Bar Code capture devices and like working in a forms web
 application???
 
 It must be a way.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: read only tablespaces

2002-12-19 Thread Igor Neyman
What is obvious here, is that you don't do your homework (RTFMing) before
asking questions.
That's why you get, what you asked for :-)

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 Is this group suppose to be helpful or for some people just to show their
ego?

 I do not know something you think is obvious, but I also know something
you might not know, which to me is quite easy.  It is a learning process,
isn't it?

 One thing I notice is, for some really learned person, they are really
nice and patient.  For those people who is mean, are you really that
knowledgable?



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 Ah, once again, we are deeply indebted to Jared for his 'perls' of
wisdom...

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 Or the Oxford Encyclopedic (sp?) Dictionary of the English Language
 should you wish a truly authoritative source.  ;)





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 which dictionary should I check to see whether a tablespace is read-only
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Re: Spool file behavior on Solaris

2002-12-19 Thread Igor Neyman
and the result is...?
reply of course only if it pertains to oracle :-)

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RE: Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
My issue is with memory requirements... try running iAS 9i R2 on 700M of
RAM, with a local db.

Ugh!

Pat.

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Oracle 9.2.0.1 on NT:

Demo files 80MB.
Starter databases - 300MB

Yechiel Adar
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  Subject: Footprint of 9i
 
 
  All
 
  I'm about to consider rolling out 9i here and I'm wondering
  what type of
  footprint most people are seeing. In other words how large of
  an install
  is a database administrators (enterprise edition)?
 
  I've installed 9i at home on WINNT server, Win XP Pro and Suse Linux 8
  all were about 2G. I also noticed that even if I tried to remove some
  components I did not think I needed that the installation
  size/footprint
  was not really affected
 
  Also a worthwhile note is that my current (enterprise edition) install
  of 8 17 on win2k server is about 1G
 
  This issue is we all run the same size drives here and really cant
  afford to loose 2G 1G maybe
 
  So is it true that overall installing the Enterprise edition of 9i
  that one could not expect to be much below 2G??
 
  If not, we may have to add a drive for the dba's which is not going to
  go over big.
 
  thanks
  Bob

 Bob,

 No surprises, you're not alone.

 The easiest 400MB to 500MB to remove are the templates and demo files for
 the starter instances and schemas.

 Try deleting %ORACLE_HOME%\assistants\dbca\templates\* to free up 300MB
 (these are the 'OLTP' and 'Data warehouse' templates used by the dbassist
 tool - if you don't use them for creating instances, get rid of them), and
 %ORACLE_HOME%\demo\schema\* to free up 100MB of the scripts used to create
 the sample schemas - again if you don't use them.

 There might be more that can be removed ... doco and the like ... but
that's
 a start.

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RE: Footprint of 9i

2002-12-19 Thread Bob Metelsky
 I'm not sure what type of systems you're running, but I
 haven't seen drives smaller than 18G much lately.  Perhaps
 its time to upgrade to a SAN anyway?  :-)  1G isn't all that 
 much to ask (especially if your production systems are 
 running in ARCHIVELOG mode), but your comments prove that 
 point that disk is cheap, until you try to justify the 
 purchase of more...
 
 

Yes, that's rite its probaly viewed as frivolous ;-).
Although basically any change in software that mandates a hardware
upgrade and propogated to a half a dozen users is a red flag for
magement, afterall they are trying to think ahead ;-)

Our drives are about 20G and of course most of us have filled that over
time...

Im probably looking for file lists that can be removed as has been
recommended. Or how other people have handled a similar situation.

Many thanks
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RE: Restoring DB from specific RMAN backup set.

2002-12-19 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Paul - Can you specify what you mean by no archive log mode and backed up
with RMAN? Was the database open?
   Which Oracle version?

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How can I restore a database from a specific RMAN backup set?  We have a
database running in no archive log mode that is backed up with RMAN.
There is an RMAN catalog DB also.

If I look at the backup summary I see:
List of Database Incarnations
DB Key  Inc Key DB Name  DB IDCUR Reset SCN  Reset Time
--- ---   --- -- --
37  38  DB2  1600772452   NO  1  15-NOV-02
37  256 DB2  1600772452   NO  259591 23-NOV-02
37  627 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  654 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  712 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  680 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  764 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 11-DEC-02
37  816 DB2  1600772452   YES 823456 18-DEC-02
37  893 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 19-DEC-02

The backup summary list looks like:
List of Backups
===
Key TY LV S Device Type Completion Time #Pieces #Copies Tag
--- -- -- - --- --- --- --- ---
47  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
63  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
WORKFLOW_AND_PORTAL
306 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
314 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
404 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
FULL_BACKUP_9014_PATCH
413 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
729 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
FULL_DB_INSTALLED
749 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
791 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1   WF_TESTING
811 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1
867 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1   SW_MIGRATION
888 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1

I've tried resetting the database to incarnation 816, but when I restore
the control file and data files from that it is not what I think it
should be.  I end up with FULL_DB_INSTALLED.  I can restore the control
file I want from the auto backup file.  How can I then tell RMAN to
restore the data files associated with either backup set 791
(tag=WF_TESTING)?

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Re: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Yechiel Adar



Hello Joe

Just schedule another backup of the archive logs 1 
hour (or 5 minutes) after the regular backup. NetBackup will take a second 
(complete) backup of the archive file and when you want to restore , restore the 
last copy of the files.

Yechiel AdarMehish

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  Subject: kinda OT: veritas 
netbackup
  
  RESEND: never saw it get posted:
  
  Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?
  
  Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive 
  logs, the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a 
  partially written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.
  
  is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
  groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
  numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
  complete?
  
  ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
  oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, 
  that we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is 
  complete?
  
  thanks, joe
  


RE: strange error on DBMS_STATS

2002-12-19 Thread Rachel Carmichael
this is being run in sqlplus as 

execute dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats

If I didn't run it (on another schema) within the same sql script, I'd
think it was that I didn't have privs on dbms_stats.

I'll keep looking


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 or
 associated queries in a procedure, rather than privs to do the
 analyze
 itself.  Do you have auditing turned on?  That's usually the first
 place I
 check to see what objects changed since the last time it worked.
 
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  From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
  Subject: strange error on DBMS_STATS
  
  
  I'm running dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats, the account running it
 is
  NOT the schema owner, but DOES have the analyze any 
  privilege and has
  read/write access to all the tables in the schema. We are not 
  trying to
  gather stats into our own tables, just want the stats refreshed
 after
  the (massive) loads into the DW tables.
  
  This has been running fine, then all of a sudden last night we
 started
  getting ORA-1031 (insufficient privileges) errors. Now, according
 to
  the docs:
  
  ORA-01031 insufficient privileges
  
  Cause: An attempt was made to change the current username or
  password without the appropriate privilege. This error also occurs
 if
  attempting to install a database without the necessary 
  operating system
  privileges.
  
  
  We are not changing passwords, so I am presuming that this involves
  (somehow) a change of username. According to the package header, it
  will throw an ORA-2 if there are insufficent privileges. 
  We rebuilt
  an index yesterday but did NOT change or add any table.
  
  I had this happen once before, on a different database, never
 solved
  it, but substituted dbms_utility.analyze_schema which worked. I can
 do
  the same thing this time but I'd prefer to solve it.
  
  Anyone ever see anything like this before?
  
  oh yeah  9.2.0.1 on Solaris 8
  
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RE: Simple Query for Week number

2002-12-19 Thread Rajesh . Rao

Dan, Thanks. The W works just fine. What I was looking for.

Phew!!! I almost wrote a PL/SQL for this ;




   
 
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Raj,
   How do you define week number? If a month starts in the middle
of
the week, is that week #1 or must it be the first full week?
   If the format mask 'W' is adequate, use


  1  select sysdate, to_char(sysdate, 'W'),
  2 '01-DEC-02', to_char(to_date('01-DEC-02'), 'W'),
  3 '30-NOV-02', to_char(to_date('30-NOV-02'), 'W')
  4* from dual
SQL /

SYSDATE   T '01-DEC-0 T '30-NOV-0 T
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19-DEC-02 3 01-DEC-02 1 30-NOV-02 5



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Hey Folks,

Looking for the simplest of queries to find the week number, given a date.
For example, 19th December 2002 falls in the 3rd week, whereas 19th
November, 2002, falls in the 4th week.

Thanks
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RE: strange error on DBMS_STATS

2002-12-19 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
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Probably wrong question ... but was rebuilt index still owned by schema owner?


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RE: Simple Query for Week number

2002-12-19 Thread Fink, Dan
Raj,
How do you define week number? If a month starts in the middle of
the week, is that week #1 or must it be the first full week?
If the format mask 'W' is adequate, use


  1  select sysdate, to_char(sysdate, 'W'),
  2 '01-DEC-02', to_char(to_date('01-DEC-02'), 'W'),
  3 '30-NOV-02', to_char(to_date('30-NOV-02'), 'W')
  4* from dual
SQL /

SYSDATE   T '01-DEC-0 T '30-NOV-0 T
- - - - - -
19-DEC-02 3 01-DEC-02 1 30-NOV-02 5



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Hey Folks,

Looking for the simplest of queries to find the week number, given a date.
For example, 19th December 2002 falls in the 3rd week, whereas 19th
November, 2002, falls in the 4th week.

Thanks
Raj

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Re: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Jared . Still
Here's an idea.

First of all, I assume you are using plain vanilla netbackup, no RMAN. 
That's
what it sounds like.

Add the arch directory to the list of directories to exclude.

Create a SQL script to create a list of files in the arch directory to 
backup. I won't
supply details, cuz I know you're perfectly capable of doing it yourself. 
:)

Modify or create the bpend_notify script for the correct backup policy, 
then use
the bpbackup command with the generated list of files to backup the 
archive logs.

Use bparchive if you want the files deleted following a successful backup.

HTH

Jared






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RESEND:  never saw it get posted:
 
Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?
 
Here is the problem:  while arch process is writing out archive logs, the 
netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a partially 
written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.
 
is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
complete?
 
ie:  current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since oracle 
wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, that 
we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is complete?
 
thanks, joe
 


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Re: strange error on DBMS_STATS

2002-12-19 Thread Tim Gorman
...I've got this hammer called SQL Trace and just about
every problem looks like a nail...

Good thing is, this'll probably resolve it for you.  Can you
run this in the same session prior to running the
GATHER_SCHEMA_STATS?

   alter session set max_dump_file_size = unlimited;
   alter session set events '10046 trace name context
forever, level 12';

If you're pressed for space in USER_DUMP_DEST, you might
want to run the trace at level 4 instead of level 12, to
dump the bind variable values only...

This will generate a trace file which, embedded within it,
should contain some indication of exactly where the
ORA-01031 error is being thrown.

Look within the raw .trc (near the bottom of the file) for
the phrase err= (it should say err=1031 or err=-1031,
I forget which).  Note the cursor# for that line and then
search upwards for the phrase PARSING IN CURSOR #nnn to
see the SQL text.  Then, from the site of the error message,
search again upwards for the phrase BIND #nnn to find the
dump of bind-variable values for the most recent call.

Seeing as how the trace will dump all recursive SQL called
in GATHER_SCHEMA_STATS as well as their bind-variable
values, we might be able to pin-point exactly which item it
is failing upon...



 I'm running dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats, the account
 running it is NOT the schema owner, but DOES have the
 analyze any privilege and has read/write access to all
 the tables in the schema. We are not trying to gather
 stats into our own tables, just want the stats refreshed
 after the (massive) loads into the DW tables.
 
 This has been running fine, then all of a sudden last
 night we started getting ORA-1031 (insufficient
 privileges) errors. Now, according to the docs:
 
 ORA-01031 insufficient privileges
 
 Cause: An attempt was made to change the current
 username or password without the appropriate privilege.
 This error also occurs if attempting to install a database
 without the necessary operating system privileges.
 
 
 We are not changing passwords, so I am presuming that this
 involves (somehow) a change of username. According to the
 package header, it will throw an ORA-2 if there are
 insufficent privileges. We rebuilt an index yesterday but
 did NOT change or add any table. 
 I had this happen once before, on a different database,
 never solved it, but substituted
 dbms_utility.analyze_schema which worked. I can do the
 same thing this time but I'd prefer to solve it. 
 Anyone ever see anything like this before?
 
 oh yeah  9.2.0.1 on Solaris 8
 
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FW: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Spears, Brian




Hi,

I am the other guy involved in 
this issue of Not backing up OPEN files on Unix with Netbackup.

 We are keeping 2 days of logs on 
disk up to 60gig of logs.. The tape backup people are not happy 
about us
 backing this up often to provide 
extra redundancy especially as we implement this for every oracle system we 

 have. 
 Yes, we have considered running other 
backups but we really wanted to see if Veritas could close this logic 
hole
 for us because we have a directive to 
keep our solution simple and secure.
 I know on windows its no problem and 
veritas squawks when the files are in use... Anyone know if the 
"only
 BACKUP close files" feature exists in 
Unix.


Brian 
SpearsSr. Oracle Database 
Administrator 
OCP
-Original Message-From: Yechiel Adar 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:50 
AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: 
kinda OT: veritas netbackup
Hello Joe

Just schedule another backup of the archive logs 1 
hour (or 5 minutes) after the regular backup. NetBackup will take a second 
(complete) backup of the archive file and when you want to restore , restore the 
last copy of the files.

Yechiel AdarMehish

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  TESTA 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:50 
  PM
  Subject: kinda OT: veritas 
netbackup
  
  RESEND: never saw it get posted:
  
  Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?
  
  Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive 
  logs, the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a 
  partially written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.
  
  is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
  groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
  numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
  complete?
  
  ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
  oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, 
  that we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is 
  complete?
  
  thanks, joe
  


RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-19 Thread Brian Dunbar
Here's a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a better computer.

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It's one of those Unix things.  It goes with the beard and the bad-fitting
trousers held up by suspenders.


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 Subject: RE: Backup DB files to the Tape
 
 
 Stephen,
 
 The para. about pax vis-a-vis tar versus cpio was interesting !
 I never knew that -- though the names do make sense now !
 Hemant
 
 At 06:39 AM 18-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
 
 I will add a vote for cpio.  I have found it to be so 
 reliable that I used
 cpio, instead of a dump utility, to back up Unix boxes.  It 
 never failed.
 In the past, I found that tar had filename length limitation that was
 shorter than what the OS permitted (80 characters iirc -- 
 that's filename,
 not path).  This happened when I worked in a development 
 environment that
 used Rogue Wave tools.  During software builds, files would 
 be generated
 with ridiculously long names, and tar could not handle 
 these.  Time has
 passed since the days I had to backup Unix servers, but iirc 
 cpio could
 correctly handle all types of special files (devices, etc.), 
 and tar could
 not (as I said, iirc).
 
 If you are just experimenting, there is another utility 
 called pax, which is
 latin for peace, the idea being that it will bring peace to 
 the Tar Wars
 where tar2d2 is always fighting c3pio.  I get the impression 
 that neither
 group was willing to abandon its favorite utility and adopt 
 pax, so the
 fight goes on.
 
 
   -Original Message-
  
   Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying
   files to Tape.
  
   Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
  
We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
   
I did use tar command:
   
tar c8v1 /home/oradata
   
It's working properly but the problem is:
   
tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
more than 2GB.
   
So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
   
Could any body in the list give me the alternative
command of tar that can handle backup of large files
or any other solution...
   
because I want to schedule this process.
   
Your help will be appreciated.
   
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RE: Simple Query for Week number

2002-12-19 Thread Paul . Parker
select to_char(sysdate, 'W') from dual;

Paul


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Hey Folks,

Looking for the simplest of queries to find the week number, given a date.
For example, 19th December 2002 falls in the 3rd week, whereas 19th
November, 2002, falls in the 4th week.

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RE: Spool file behavior on Solaris

2002-12-19 Thread Richard Ji
Geez,

Not only people come to list expect an answer and can't take jokes,
now they expect us to read their minds too.

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RE: strange error on DBMS_STATS

2002-12-19 Thread Jesse, Rich
Yes, but it turned out to be privs (or lack thereof) to run the stats or
associated queries in a procedure, rather than privs to do the analyze
itself.  Do you have auditing turned on?  That's usually the first place I
check to see what objects changed since the last time it worked.

GL!

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 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:39 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: strange error on DBMS_STATS
 
 
 I'm running dbms_stats.gather_schema_stats, the account running it is
 NOT the schema owner, but DOES have the analyze any 
 privilege and has
 read/write access to all the tables in the schema. We are not 
 trying to
 gather stats into our own tables, just want the stats refreshed after
 the (massive) loads into the DW tables.
 
 This has been running fine, then all of a sudden last night we started
 getting ORA-1031 (insufficient privileges) errors. Now, according to
 the docs:
 
 ORA-01031 insufficient privileges
 
 Cause: An attempt was made to change the current username or
 password without the appropriate privilege. This error also occurs if
 attempting to install a database without the necessary 
 operating system
 privileges.
 
 
 We are not changing passwords, so I am presuming that this involves
 (somehow) a change of username. According to the package header, it
 will throw an ORA-2 if there are insufficent privileges. 
 We rebuilt
 an index yesterday but did NOT change or add any table.
 
 I had this happen once before, on a different database, never solved
 it, but substituted dbms_utility.analyze_schema which worked. I can do
 the same thing this time but I'd prefer to solve it.
 
 Anyone ever see anything like this before?
 
 oh yeah  9.2.0.1 on Solaris 8
 
 Rachel
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RE: HELP NEEDED IN FORMS6I OR FORMS9I DEVELOPMENT - WEB

2002-12-19 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: HELP NEEDED IN FORMS6I OR FORMS9I DEVELOPMENT - WEB





if you have activex controls that you want to replace, there is 'Java Importer' and in Forms 9i you can use PJCs also.


Read through Forms information at http://technet.oracle.com


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 Sent: quinta-feira, 19 de Dezembro de 2002 12:50
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 Subject: HELP NEEDED IN FORMS6I OR FORMS9I DEVELOPMENT - WEB
 
 Hi people
 Now it's my turn, i really need some help here.
 I've got some forms developed in forms 6i (even some in forms 4.5) that
 are working fine in client/server mode. But ... if i switch to web mode i
 will lose loads of funtionalities here.
 The real problem is:
 
 How do i put the local devices like printers, scanners, fingerprint
 capture devices, Bar Code capture devices and like working in a forms web
 application???
 
 It must be a way.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
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Giving back Perl

2002-12-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: Giving back Perl






Hello everyone - 


I've been trying to write more Perl lately and after showing my Perl mentor some of the stuff I had written over the last couple of weeks the first thing he said was why don't you give back to the community. 

So I figure if I offer up my latest creation I could 1. give back and maybe help a person or two and 2. receive comments on my coding. My coding style is rather simplistic and I would appreciate any comments about what I'm doing wrong/how something could be done differently (TMTOWTDI), etc. My environment is W2K sp2/8.1.7.2. 

I slapped together a script that fires backup controlfile to trace (including the stored proc) and ftp's it off to another server. If anyone is interested in seeing it please email me directly. 


Lisa Koivu

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5259 Coconut Creek Parkway

Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063







RE: read only tablespaces

2002-12-19 Thread Richard Ji
Come on now, these guys are just joking.  I don't see any egos or mean
replies.
You asked which dictionary instead of which data dictionary view.

It is a learning process and we should all have a little fun. :)

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Is this group suppose to be helpful or for some people just to show their
ego?

I do not know something you think is obvious, but I also know something you
might not know, which to me is quite easy.  It is a learning process, isn't
it?  

One thing I notice is, for some really learned person, they are really nice
and patient.  For those people who is mean, are you really that
knowledgable?



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Ah, once again, we are deeply indebted to Jared for his 'perls' of wisdom...

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Or the Oxford Encyclopedic (sp?) Dictionary of the English Language
should you wish a truly authoritative source.  ;)





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I would suggest Funk  Wagnells or Webster's New College Edition
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which dictionary should I check to see whether a tablespace is read-only 
or read-write?
thanks for your help.


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FW: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Spears, Brian




Yes, we have coded it to do 
thisand it works
 but for many reasons.. including 
simplicitywe want to avoid
 thissolution for 
theentire12B enterprise solution... when it confuses
 others, and is much more vulnerable 
for screwups with Mount point management
 and recovery.

Brian Spears

-Original Message-From: Kevin Lange 
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AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
kinda OT: veritas netbackup
How about running a script just before the 
backup that 
 1) Reads the current log 
number.
 2) Forces a log switch.
 3) Copies the logs to a seperate 
directory.
 4) Backups up that seperate 
directory

Leave the archive directory alone. Do 
not back it up.

  -Original Message-From: JOE TESTA 
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  kinda OT: veritas netbackup
  RESEND: never saw it get posted:
  
  Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?
  
  Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive 
  logs, the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a 
  partially written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.
  
  is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
  groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
  numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
  complete?
  
  ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
  oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, 
  that we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is 
  complete?
  
  thanks, joe
  


RE: Restoring DB from specific RMAN backup set.

2002-12-19 Thread Paul Heely
Database is 9.0.1.4 running on Win2K.

The database called DB2 is not running in archivelog mode.

The database is being backed up using RMAN:  I.e.
set ORACLE_SID=DB2
rman target / catalog rman@otherdb
shutdown immediate;
startup mount;
backup database format=f:\oracle_backup\%d\%d_%U tag full_backup;
alter database open;


I figured out what the problem was.  After I restored the controlfile
from the autobackup file I was not mounting the database before doing a
database restore.

Thanks.
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Paul - Can you specify what you mean by no archive log mode and
backed up with RMAN? Was the database open?
   Which Oracle version?

Dennis Williams
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How can I restore a database from a specific RMAN backup set?  We have a
database running in no archive log mode that is backed up with RMAN.
There is an RMAN catalog DB also.

If I look at the backup summary I see:
List of Database Incarnations
DB Key  Inc Key DB Name  DB IDCUR Reset SCN  Reset Time
--- ---   --- -- --
37  38  DB2  1600772452   NO  1  15-NOV-02
37  256 DB2  1600772452   NO  259591 23-NOV-02
37  627 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  654 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  712 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  680 DB2  1600772452   NO  792890 11-DEC-02
37  764 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 11-DEC-02
37  816 DB2  1600772452   YES 823456 18-DEC-02
37  893 DB2  1600772452   NO  823456 19-DEC-02

The backup summary list looks like:
List of Backups
===
Key TY LV S Device Type Completion Time #Pieces #Copies Tag
--- -- -- - --- --- --- --- ---
47  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
63  B  F  A DISK15-NOV-02   1   1
WORKFLOW_AND_PORTAL
306 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
314 B  F  A DISK23-NOV-02   1   1
404 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
FULL_BACKUP_9014_PATCH
413 B  F  A DISK26-NOV-02   1   1
729 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
FULL_DB_INSTALLED
749 B  F  A DISK11-DEC-02   1   1
791 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1   WF_TESTING
811 B  F  A DISK18-DEC-02   1   1
867 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1   SW_MIGRATION
888 B  F  A DISK19-DEC-02   1   1

I've tried resetting the database to incarnation 816, but when I restore
the control file and data files from that it is not what I think it
should be.  I end up with FULL_DB_INSTALLED.  I can restore the control
file I want from the auto backup file.  How can I then tell RMAN to
restore the data files associated with either backup set 791
(tag=WF_TESTING)?

Thanks.
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Re: Spool file behavior on Solaris

2002-12-19 Thread Yechiel Adar
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 and the result is...?
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Re: read only tablespaces

2002-12-19 Thread Yechiel Adar
Shao

We operate of the principle of GIGO - Garbage In, Garbage Out. The people on
this list expect you to write clear questions if you want clear answers.
Sometimes a questions like yours allow us to horse around a little. All in
good will and between friends.

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 Is this group suppose to be helpful or for some people just to show their
ego?

 I do not know something you think is obvious, but I also know something
you might not know, which to me is quite easy.  It is a learning process,
isn't it?

 One thing I notice is, for some really learned person, they are really
nice and patient.  For those people who is mean, are you really that
knowledgable?



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 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Ah, once again, we are deeply indebted to Jared for his 'perls' of
wisdom...

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 Or the Oxford Encyclopedic (sp?) Dictionary of the English Language
 should you wish a truly authoritative source.  ;)





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 which dictionary should I check to see whether a tablespace is read-only
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RE: Giving back Perl

2002-12-19 Thread Brian Dunbar
I'm interested, send at your convenience.

And . Oracle Diaper Administrator ... Diaper ???  As in what my 3 year
old has stopped needing at night?

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Hello everyone - 
I've been trying to write more Perl lately and after showing my Perl mentor
some of the stuff I had written over the last couple of weeks the first
thing he said was why don't you give back to the community.  
So I figure if I offer up my latest creation I could 1. give back and maybe
help a person or two and 2. receive comments on my coding.  My coding style
is rather simplistic and I would appreciate any comments about what I'm
doing wrong/how something could be done differently (TMTOWTDI), etc.  My
environment is W2K sp2/8.1.7.2.  
I slapped together a script that fires backup controlfile to trace
(including the stored proc) and ftp's it off to another server.  If anyone
is interested in seeing it please email me directly.  


Lisa Koivu 
Oracle Diaper Administrator 
Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway 
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063 
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RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-19 Thread Stephen Lee

Long live Dilbert!

The scary thing around here is that the guy that most fits the description
is an NT admin.  He even has empty Mountain Dew cans all over his cubicle.
The only thing missing are the Hostess Twinkie wrappers.

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 Here's a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a better computer.
 
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RE: Giving back Perl

2002-12-19 Thread Prakriteswar Santikary
Title: Giving back Perl



Pl. 
send me a copy of the code. 


  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 
  12:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Giving back Perl
  Hello everyone - 
  I've been trying to write more Perl lately and 
  after showing my Perl mentor some of the stuff I had written over the last 
  couple of weeks the first thing he said was "why don't you give back to the 
  community". 
  So I figure if I offer up my latest creation I 
  could 1. give back and maybe help a person or two and 2. receive comments on 
  my coding. My coding style is rather simplistic and I would appreciate 
  any comments about what I'm doing wrong/how something could be done 
  differently (TMTOWTDI), etc. My environment is W2K sp2/8.1.7.2. 
  
  I slapped together a script that fires backup 
  controlfile to trace (including the stored proc) and ftp's it off to another 
  server. If anyone is interested in seeing it please email me 
  directly. 
  Lisa Koivu Oracle Diaper Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 
  Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, 
  USA 33063 


Re: Simple Query for Week number

2002-12-19 Thread Yechiel Adar
Check out the date 19/11/2002. format 'W' return 3 instead of 4.

I wrote something to do this. It select the week day number of the current
date,
the week day number of the first of the month and the current week.
If week day of the first of the month is higher then the current week day
Then add 1 to the current week.

SELECT CASE WHEN CUR_DAY  FIRST_DAY
THEN CUR_WEEK + 1
ELSECUR_WEEK + 0
   END CASE
FROM
 (SELECT TO_CHAR(TO_DATE('07/12/2002','DD/MM/'),'D') CUR_DAY FROM DUAL),
(SELECT TO_CHAR( TO_DATE('01/' || to_char(last_day(TO_DATE
('07/12/2002','DD/MM/')),'MM/'),'DD/MM/'),'D') FIRST_DAY
from dual)  ,
(SELECT TO_CHAR(TO_DATE('07/12/2002','DD/MM/'),'W') CUR_WEEK FROM DUAL)
;



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 Dan, Thanks. The W works just fine. What I was looking for.

 Phew!!! I almost wrote a PL/SQL for this ;





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 Raj,
How do you define week number? If a month starts in the middle
 of
 the week, is that week #1 or must it be the first full week?
If the format mask 'W' is adequate, use


   1  select sysdate, to_char(sysdate, 'W'),
   2 '01-DEC-02', to_char(to_date('01-DEC-02'), 'W'),
   3 '30-NOV-02', to_char(to_date('30-NOV-02'), 'W')
   4* from dual
 SQL /

 SYSDATE   T '01-DEC-0 T '30-NOV-0 T
 - - - - - -
 19-DEC-02 3 01-DEC-02 1 30-NOV-02 5



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 Hey Folks,

 Looking for the simplest of queries to find the week number, given a date.
 For example, 19th December 2002 falls in the 3rd week, whereas 19th
 November, 2002, falls in the 4th week.

 Thanks
 Raj

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RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-19 Thread Miller, Jay
Condescending Unix user!

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Here's a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a better computer.

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It's one of those Unix things.  It goes with the beard and the bad-fitting
trousers held up by suspenders.


 -Original Message-
 From: Hemant K Chitale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:21 AM
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 Subject: RE: Backup DB files to the Tape
 
 
 Stephen,
 
 The para. about pax vis-a-vis tar versus cpio was interesting !
 I never knew that -- though the names do make sense now !
 Hemant
 
 At 06:39 AM 18-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
 
 I will add a vote for cpio.  I have found it to be so 
 reliable that I used
 cpio, instead of a dump utility, to back up Unix boxes.  It 
 never failed.
 In the past, I found that tar had filename length limitation that was
 shorter than what the OS permitted (80 characters iirc -- 
 that's filename,
 not path).  This happened when I worked in a development 
 environment that
 used Rogue Wave tools.  During software builds, files would 
 be generated
 with ridiculously long names, and tar could not handle 
 these.  Time has
 passed since the days I had to backup Unix servers, but iirc 
 cpio could
 correctly handle all types of special files (devices, etc.), 
 and tar could
 not (as I said, iirc).
 
 If you are just experimenting, there is another utility 
 called pax, which is
 latin for peace, the idea being that it will bring peace to 
 the Tar Wars
 where tar2d2 is always fighting c3pio.  I get the impression 
 that neither
 group was willing to abandon its favorite utility and adopt 
 pax, so the
 fight goes on.
 
 
   -Original Message-
  
   Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying
   files to Tape.
  
   Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
  
We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
   
I did use tar command:
   
tar c8v1 /home/oradata
   
It's working properly but the problem is:
   
tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
more than 2GB.
   
So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
   
Could any body in the list give me the alternative
command of tar that can handle backup of large files
or any other solution...
   
because I want to schedule this process.
   
Your help will be appreciated.
   
Regards,
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System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
   
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Re: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, with LOB

2002-12-19 Thread Jonathan Lewis

Depending on your circumstances, ASS Management
can eliminate severe contention on the freelists / freelist
groups area.  However, because Oracle is overgenerous
with its allocation of bitmap blocks (which may turn
out to be in excess of 1% of your database), you
may end up thrashing your system because most of
your buffer space is flooded with hot BMBs and the
data has to keep thrashing on and off disk.

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We were the other way around in our testing lately:-)

We turned on auto space management to remove the contention.
Afterwards-we
removed quite a bit of header block/free list contention..

anyway, more tests to follow

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As part of a RAC benchmark with 9.2 we had faced severe LOCKING
on setting segment space management AUTO  had to REMOVE it

HTH



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RE: read only tablespaces

2002-12-19 Thread Jared . Still
That's a keeper!





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Here's the specific SQL query that needs to be run: 
select translate('LNOPQSUVWXYZBCDEGHIJKn;8!###)n9/)3l9)jku9)vum1@', 
 '8#)n!9/3lvjkum1;@LNOPQSUVWXYZBCDEGHIJK', 
 'F. aRMedthmfinulT!') Well... 
from DICTIONARY 
where table_name='DICTIONARY' 
/ 

:-):-):-) 


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Personally I would try dba_tablespaces and check the status column... 
online, offline or read only.  If it's online, it's read-write, read only 
speaks for itself.
Good to see sarcasm hasn't left the list. 
Regards, 
Bill Burke 
The Kinder and Gentler DBA 
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I would suggest Funk  Wagnells or Webster's New College Edition 
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which dictionary should I check to see whether a tablespace is read-only 
or read-write? 
thanks for your help. 


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RE: kinda OT: veritas netbackup

2002-12-19 Thread Kevin Lange



In that case Brian ... sorry, not going to 
be any help. Good luck.

  -Original Message-From: Spears, Brian 
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  12:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  FW: kinda OT: veritas netbackup
  
  Yes, we have coded it to do 
  thisand it works
   but for many reasons.. including 
  simplicitywe want to avoid
   thissolution for 
  theentire12B enterprise solution... when it confuses
   others, and is much more vulnerable 
  for screwups with Mount point management
   and recovery.
  
  Brian Spears
  
  -Original Message-From: Kevin Lange 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:15 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  kinda OT: veritas netbackup
  How about running a script just before the 
  backup that 
   1) Reads the current log 
  number.
   2) Forces a log 
switch.
   3) Copies the logs to a seperate 
  directory.
   4) Backups up that seperate 
  directory
  
  Leave the archive directory alone. 
  Do not back it up.
  
-Original Message-From: JOE TESTA 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 
9:50 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: kinda OT: veritas netbackup
RESEND: never saw it get posted:

Can we force veritas netbackup (HPUX) to NOT backup open files?

Here is the problem: while arch process is writing out archive 
logs, the netbackup script that backs up the arch directory will write a 
partially written log to tape, we're trying to avoid that.

is our only alternative determine(out of data dictionary) how many log 
groups we have and assuming 3, that if we take the max log seq# minus the 
numebr of groups we have, gives us the oldest log that we can be sure is 
complete?

ie: current log is 543, we have 3 log groups, 543-3 = 540, since 
oracle wouldnt start overwriting # 540 until it was successfully archived, 
that we can back up, up thru log seq# 540 and can be sure # 540 is 
complete?

thanks, joe



RE: Backup DB files to the Tape

2002-12-19 Thread Brian Dunbar
That's MR. Condescending Unix user thankyouverymuch.

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Condescending Unix user!

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Here's a nickel, kid. Go buy yourself a better computer.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



It's one of those Unix things.  It goes with the beard and the bad-fitting
trousers held up by suspenders.


 -Original Message-
 From: Hemant K Chitale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:21 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: RE: Backup DB files to the Tape
 
 
 Stephen,
 
 The para. about pax vis-a-vis tar versus cpio was interesting !
 I never knew that -- though the names do make sense now !
 Hemant
 
 At 06:39 AM 18-12-02 -0800, you wrote:
 
 I will add a vote for cpio.  I have found it to be so 
 reliable that I used
 cpio, instead of a dump utility, to back up Unix boxes.  It 
 never failed.
 In the past, I found that tar had filename length limitation that was
 shorter than what the OS permitted (80 characters iirc -- 
 that's filename,
 not path).  This happened when I worked in a development 
 environment that
 used Rogue Wave tools.  During software builds, files would 
 be generated
 with ridiculously long names, and tar could not handle 
 these.  Time has
 passed since the days I had to backup Unix servers, but iirc 
 cpio could
 correctly handle all types of special files (devices, etc.), 
 and tar could
 not (as I said, iirc).
 
 If you are just experimenting, there is another utility 
 called pax, which is
 latin for peace, the idea being that it will bring peace to 
 the Tar Wars
 where tar2d2 is always fighting c3pio.  I get the impression 
 that neither
 group was willing to abandon its favorite utility and adopt 
 pax, so the
 fight goes on.
 
 
   -Original Message-
  
   Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying
   files to Tape.
  
   Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
  
We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
   
I did use tar command:
   
tar c8v1 /home/oradata
   
It's working properly but the problem is:
   
tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
more than 2GB.
   
So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
   
Could any body in the list give me the alternative
command of tar that can handle backup of large files
or any other solution...
   
because I want to schedule this process.
   
Your help will be appreciated.
   
Regards,
ashraf salaymeh
System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
   
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RE: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, with LOB

2002-12-19 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: 9i / 9iRAC : Segment_Space_Management AUTO, with LOB





ASS Management? I'm snickering, I know it's juvenile humor, but... LOL! Let me tell you, my ASS is not on the Free List. And thrashing? I'll leave that one alone!

Sorry everyone. Couldn't resist. Is it Friday yet...


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Depending on your circumstances, ASS Management
can eliminate severe contention on the freelists / freelist
groups area. However, because Oracle is overgenerous
with its allocation of bitmap blocks (which may turn
out to be in excess of 1% of your database), you
may end up thrashing your system because most of
your buffer space is flooded with hot BMBs and the
data has to keep thrashing on and off disk.


Regards


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Date: 19 December 2002 17:51



We were the other way around in our testing lately:-)

We turned on auto space management to remove the contention.
Afterwards-we
removed quite a bit of header block/free list contention..

anyway, more tests to follow

-Original Message-
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 10:09 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



As part of a RAC benchmark with 9.2 we had faced severe LOCKING
on setting segment space management AUTO  had to REMOVE it

HTH




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