RE: Oracle 11i
Title: RE: Oracle 11i Okay, so burn it over 3 CDs and mail it to me :-) Seriously, I would love to get a trial version just to play with at home I used 10.7 NCA and 10.7 SC and I kind of miss it. Wanted to try 11i - to see what has changed, etc. Someone posted you could order a trial version of this. Is that for real? - Thanks, Babette -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of April WellsSent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:00 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle 11i NO... it is only 1.8 gig zip file... haven't had the courage to unzip it yet... 11.5.8 unzipped to nearly 8 gig. and that doesn't address the pre-req patches to lay down the new tablespaces for the new users created in the upgrade. =) April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas /\ / \ / \ \ / \/ >\< \ >\< \ Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11 -Original Message- From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 9:49 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle 11i Both 11.5.8 and 11.5.9 are 22 CDs, totalling about 12Gb. If you start with 11.5.8 or below, you'd also want to download the 11.5.9 patch anyway, which is a further 2.5Gb or so... on 9/10/03 2:19 AM, Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tanel, > the 11.5.9 docs ask you to get in touch if you're interested in a DVD > release. It doesn't sound like it's actually available but they must be > gauging interest for future releases. > > Cheers, > Mike > > -Original Message- > Sent: 10 September 2003 02:50 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > You can't download 11i, you can order it for evaluation from Oracle, it's > about 50 CD (when the heck will they put it on DVD?), > > > Cheers, > Tanel. > > > > ** > ** > E mail Disclaimer > > You agree that you have read and understood this disclaimer and you agree to > be bound by its terms. > > The information contained in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it (if > any) are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you have > received this e-mail in error please notify the originator. > > This e-mail and any attachments have been scanned for certain viruses prior to > sending but CE Electric UK Funding Company nor any of its associated companies > from whom this e-mail originates shall be liable for any losses as a result of > any viruses being passed on. > > No warranty of any kind is given in respect of any information contained in > this e-mail and you should be aware that that it might be incomplete, out of > date or incorrect. It is therefore essential that you verify all such > information with us before placing any reliance upon it. > > CE Electric UK Funding Company > Lloyds Court > 78 Grey Street > Newcastle upon Tyne > NE1 6AF > Registered in England and Wales: Number 3476201 > > ** > ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The information contained in this communication, including attachments, is strictly confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also contain proprietary, price sensitive, or legally privileged information. Notice is hereby given that any disclosure, distribution, dissemination, use, or copying of the information by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may be illegal. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail, delete this communication, and destroy all copies. Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken reasonable precautions to ensure that any attachment to this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We specifically disclaim all liability and will accept no responsibility for any damage sustained as a result of software viruses and advise you to carry out your own virus checks before opening
RE: Weird ORA-00060 (deadlock) with pragma autonomous transaction
Yes we have a commit in the procedure and we rollback if an exception is raised. That was one of the first things I looked at. It would have been nice if that was the only problem. - Babette -Original Message- Ryan Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:29 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L transaction are you committing in the procedure with the autonomous transaction? do you have an exception block with a rollback? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:09 AM > We are getting a strange deadlock problem and I am having trouble > understanding the cause and action. Metalink has not been too useful for > this one. > > We have a procedure eg INS_REC that does an insert into table ABC. The > procedure uses a "pragma autonomous transaction". > > We have a package eg DO_SET_OF_WORK that selects from several tables and > then based on the information selected will call the above procedure, along > with several other procedures that will do inserts or deletes (on DIFFERENT > tables). > > The package does opens a cursor to process all records selected. > > When we use "pragma autonomous transaction" AND commit in the procedure > called, the package dies with an ORA-0060. When the "pragma autonomous > transaction" is removed from the procedure, the package does not get a > deadlock. > > There is only ONE user using this set of tables (in a separate schema from > other users on the system) at the time this is occuring. > > I am puzzled. Another DBA suggested this may be related to FREELISTS, so I > increased them for both the table and indexes that were being reported as > deadlocking but it did not make any difference. > > Anyone have any other suggestions ? > > Thanks > Babette > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Babette Turner-Underwood > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ryan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird ORA-00060 (deadlock) with pragma autonomous
We are on version 8.1.7.4 on the mainframe (OS390 platform) -Original Message- James Howerton Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L What version are you on??? There is a bug in 9.2.0.3, I was getting this error regularly on my rman repository db when an rman resync was run. I've patched to 9.2.0.4 and the error has gone away. ...JIM... >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/8/03 11:09:27 PM >>> We are getting a strange deadlock problem and I am having trouble understanding the cause and action. Metalink has not been too useful for this one. We have a procedure eg INS_REC that does an insert into table ABC. The procedure uses a "pragma autonomous transaction". We have a package eg DO_SET_OF_WORK that selects from several tables and then based on the information selected will call the above procedure, along with several other procedures that will do inserts or deletes (on DIFFERENT tables). The package does opens a cursor to process all records selected. When we use "pragma autonomous transaction" AND commit in the procedure called, the package dies with an ORA-0060. When the "pragma autonomous transaction" is removed from the procedure, the package does not get a deadlock. There is only ONE user using this set of tables (in a separate schema from other users on the system) at the time this is occuring. I am puzzled. Another DBA suggested this may be related to FREELISTS, so I increased them for both the table and indexes that were being reported as deadlocking but it did not make any difference. Anyone have any other suggestions ? Thanks Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: James Howerton INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Weird ORA-00060 (deadlock) with pragma autonomous transaction
It is at work. I will bring it home (on floppy) and post it tomorrow. -Original Message- Henry Poras Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L transaction Babette, Could you post the deadlock trace file please. Henry -Original Message- Babette Turner-Underwood Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are getting a strange deadlock problem and I am having trouble understanding the cause and action. Metalink has not been too useful for this one. We have a procedure eg INS_REC that does an insert into table ABC. The procedure uses a "pragma autonomous transaction". We have a package eg DO_SET_OF_WORK that selects from several tables and then based on the information selected will call the above procedure, along with several other procedures that will do inserts or deletes (on DIFFERENT tables). The package does opens a cursor to process all records selected. When we use "pragma autonomous transaction" AND commit in the procedure called, the package dies with an ORA-0060. When the "pragma autonomous transaction" is removed from the procedure, the package does not get a deadlock. There is only ONE user using this set of tables (in a separate schema from other users on the system) at the time this is occuring. I am puzzled. Another DBA suggested this may be related to FREELISTS, so I increased them for both the table and indexes that were being reported as deadlocking but it did not make any difference. Anyone have any other suggestions ? Thanks Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Henry Poras INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Weird ORA-00060 (deadlock) with pragma autonomous transaction
We are getting a strange deadlock problem and I am having trouble understanding the cause and action. Metalink has not been too useful for this one. We have a procedure eg INS_REC that does an insert into table ABC. The procedure uses a "pragma autonomous transaction". We have a package eg DO_SET_OF_WORK that selects from several tables and then based on the information selected will call the above procedure, along with several other procedures that will do inserts or deletes (on DIFFERENT tables). The package does opens a cursor to process all records selected. When we use "pragma autonomous transaction" AND commit in the procedure called, the package dies with an ORA-0060. When the "pragma autonomous transaction" is removed from the procedure, the package does not get a deadlock. There is only ONE user using this set of tables (in a separate schema from other users on the system) at the time this is occuring. I am puzzled. Another DBA suggested this may be related to FREELISTS, so I increased them for both the table and indexes that were being reported as deadlocking but it did not make any difference. Anyone have any other suggestions ? Thanks Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: 10g
Yes, but then all the listers who have been DYING to fill us in, will be allowed to finally spill their guts, no? - Babette -Original Message- Mogens Norgaard Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 12:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes, Larry will announce it tomorrow. The software will not be available to customers for a while, though. Boivin, Patrice J wrote: >The release date and the shipping dates may be different, not sure. > >They also may not have it ready for all platforms at the same time, see OCS >Release 2, there still is no version for Windows. > >Patrice. > >-Original Message- >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 3:44 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >I keep reading all the marketing material on 10g, is Tuesday the release >date? (Larry Ellison Enabling the Grid -- The Power of 10 >The Launch of Oracle's Next Version Database keynote) > > >Thanks in advance, >Jay > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mogens_N=F8rgaard?= INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
test
test -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i and connect as sys
The security is not as bad as it sounds. The patch is to release major software and the user gets prompted to enter the password. It is not stored any place (just UNIX variables during the running of the release). The software upgrades are released once every six months to year. Not all patches require SYS access. Only in earlier releases that granted access to SYS. However, when I build a new environment, I needed to run through the entire set of patches. Even if I use SYSTEM to grant access to SYS objects, I would need to go back and change the scripts to refer to SYS objects instead of currently connected users. And we are not supposed to go back and change scripts that have been released already :-( But we are migrating all of the application to the mainframe and none of the original release scripts will work soon any way :-( At least as part of the move, we have been going through getting rid of the public synonyms and public grants the previous DBA put in place :-) I will have to try that GRANT ANY OBJECT PRIVILEGE and let you know how it goes. - BAbette -Original Message- Tim Gorman Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 11:39 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Babette, This is how database security unravels. Pretty soon, the password to SYS is embedded everywhere, used everywhere, and everyone knows it. Thus, the DBA ends up with the pager and responsibility for fixing stuff, but everyone else can cause that pager to go off with a stupid goof at 3:00am where they shouldn't have been able to goof up. It sounds like the patching utility only needs a couple privileges, but instead all of the goddess-like privileges of SYS are provided. Pretty soon, it seems normal for people and programs to connect as SYS on a regular basis. And so it goes... A couple alternatives: * use 9i "GRANT ANY OBJECT PRIVILEGE" to let another account have an incredible amount of authority, which is OK if you don't know exactly what permissions will be needed ahead of time... * grant specific permissions WITH GRANT OPTION to another user, a more focused approach than the shotgun "GRANT ANY OBJECT PRIVILEGE" approach, provided you know what permissions will be needed ahead of time. This has been around forever... * encapsulate such actions within a stored procedure owed by SYS, which may seem cumbersome but allows all kinds of control. Not just "who can do what" (which is basically what permissions and roles provide), but also "during what time", "from where", "from what program", "from what location", etc... Just this Friday, I was wrapping up an installation engagement and one of the last things we did was change all the passwords. Standard practice. Immediately, one of the development managers comes boiling out of his office screaming "Who changed the passwords to SYS and SYSTEM?". I 'fessed up and asked him why he thought he needed it. He turned red and snarled that he just needed it and never you mind, turned on his heel and went in the CIO's office, then came boiling back with approval. We turned it over, and within 5 minutes I logged back onto the system and saw SQL*Plus running with the SYS/SYSTEM password visible to anyone and everyone who can run the UNIX "ps" command. I looked at the scripts he was running, noticed that all he wanted SYS/SYSTEM for was to create PUBLIC SYNONYMs. I left to catch my plane... Hope this helps... -Tim on 8/17/03 6:09 PM, Babette Turner-Underwood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tim / Peter / Michael > > Thanks for the information. I was afraid of that. > We have a patching mechanism and need to logon as > sys to grant access to sys objects for part of > the process. (to grant select on sys.dba_free_space > and execute on sys.dbms_util). > > However, the patching mechanism only does a regular > connect and not "as sysdba"--- DARN! - Will have to > change automation scripts if we upgrade ... and I was > hoping this would be easy to slide in :-( > > - Babette > > -Original Message- > Tim Gorman > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:09 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > It's a 9i thing, across all platforms. > > > > on 8/16/03 9:29 PM, Babette Turner-Underwood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> I have created my first 9i database on OS/390 v2.10. >> >> On my Oracle 8i instance, I can connect to the database >> using: >> >> sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> HOWEVER, In Oracle 9i, I cannot do this. I am FORCED >> >> to connect using: >> sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] as sysdba >> >> I was wondering if this was a new 9i "feature" >> or if it was configurable? Or just a weird thi
RE: Oracle 9i and connect as sys
Tim / Peter / Michael Thanks for the information. I was afraid of that. We have a patching mechanism and need to logon as sys to grant access to sys objects for part of the process. (to grant select on sys.dba_free_space and execute on sys.dbms_util). However, the patching mechanism only does a regular connect and not "as sysdba"--- DARN! - Will have to change automation scripts if we upgrade ... and I was hoping this would be easy to slide in :-( - Babette -Original Message- Tim Gorman Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It's a 9i thing, across all platforms. on 8/16/03 9:29 PM, Babette Turner-Underwood at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have created my first 9i database on OS/390 v2.10. > > On my Oracle 8i instance, I can connect to the database > using: > > sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > HOWEVER, In Oracle 9i, I cannot do this. I am FORCED > > to connect using: > sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] as sysdba > > I was wondering if this was a new 9i "feature" > or if it was configurable? Or just a weird thing > because of the mainframe environment. > > Comments please. > > Thanks in Advance > - Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle 9i and connect as sys
I have created my first 9i database on OS/390 v2.10. On my Oracle 8i instance, I can connect to the database using: sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] HOWEVER, In Oracle 9i, I cannot do this. I am FORCED to connect using: sys/[EMAIL PROTECTED] as sysdba I was wondering if this was a new 9i "feature" or if it was configurable? Or just a weird thing because of the mainframe environment. Comments please. Thanks in Advance - Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: RMAN/Veritas duplicate db article
Didn't get a change to read it yet, but if it makes you feel better, I REALLY DID bookmark it to read later, when I thought it might apply to me. Currently in the big blue world (Oracle on the mainframe) and Veritas is just a pleasant memory :-( Babette -Original Message- Jared Still Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hmm... absolutely no responses. Perhaps a bit of clarification is in order. I'm interested in comments only on the content. This was a write as a you go paper and decidely not publishable as is. If it seems worthwhile, I will rewrite into something a little more acceptable than the very rough draft that it is. Thanks, Jared On Wednesday 23 July 2003 14:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > List, > > I've written a short ( compared to the length of time it took > to do this anyway ) article on how to create a duplicate database > on a remote server using RMAN and Veritas NetBackup. > > It can be found at: > >http://www.tinyurl.com/hu4r > > or at this one if you can't access tinyurl.com: > > > http://www.cybcon.com/~jkstill/Alternate%20Client%20Restore%20With%20Verita >s%20NetBackup%20and%20Oracle%20RMAN.doc > > It's kinda rough, so suggestions, comments, criticisms are welcome. > > Thanks, > > Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: salary question - Slipping off topic
services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information > (like subscribing). = "Any dream worth having is a dream worth fighting for"(Cualquier sueño que valga la pena tener, es un sueño por el que vale la pena luchar)Charles Xavier __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Gabriel Aragon INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Tech meetings
Title: Message From time to time, we go through a series of "show and tell" where people do about an hour long presentation, question and answer on some usually technical topic. Occasionally these presentations are business related (eg explaining how the Canada Pension Plan international agreements affects the programs we are doing). They die off, then the director resurrects them by asking for volunteers. Occasionally, people are told to do a presentation on a specific work -related topic. - Babette -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Rudy ZungSent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:05 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Tech meetings Don't know if what we do in our shop here qualifies for your question or not, but our dev groups do "stand-up meetings." Relatively quick meetings (that can be done standing up; no meeting rooms required) that are usually finished in about 20 minutes. In the stand-ups, we get heads-up for things and specifications that might be coming down the pipeline from the product management and design side. We get a quick update on the state of deployment (what version has rolled into production, what version is in the QA pipeline) and what the next impending set of changes are about to get pushed onto the dev servers. If there's any potential "gotcha"s that have been experienced (especially on the coding front) they get publicized in the stand-ups as well. The main point of our stand-ups are to make sure that all the developers are relatively aware of the scheduling and direction of the product, and to highlight any programming difficulties and workarounds that might arise so that when different developers hit those gotchas, they'll already know that a solution might already. These stand-up meetings are basically within a development team/group. Project leads have their own meetings with the product management group. So essentially, the product manager has his own meetings; then the product manager has meetings with the dev project leads to convey what they want in the next iteration of the product; the project leads then present these to the dev group in a stand-up meeting. -Original Message-From: M.Godlewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Tech meetings List, Just wondering if your organization has tech meetings, and what is discussed and what the goals of the meetings are? I've been asked about this, and was wondering if there is a quick list out there any where. TIA
RE: Re: Rule Based Optimizer
--- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: K Gopalakrishnan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Hallas, John, Tech Dev INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: ??? Linux/Oracle 8.1.7 2GB file size limit ???
Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Boivin, Patrice J INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: quickest method
gt; cc: > > > >> Subject:quickest method > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> I'm curious to know whether anyone out there has seen a > > comparison > > > >> discussing the pros and cons and/or results of any simulation > > tests > > that > > > >> compare the speed with which data can be loaded into a target > > database > > > >> from > > > >> a source (database or flat file) using the following 3 > methods : > > > >> > > > >> (i) Export (from source), Import (to target) > > > >> (ii) SQL*Loader (to target) > > > >> (iii) SQL or PL/SQL commands (insert to target) > > > >> using a Database Link between source & > > > >> target > > > >> > > > >> I'm working on a data loading strategy and since there > are "many > > ways > > to > > > >> skin a cat", I'm considering these as options. Of > course, there > > are > > other > > > >> > > > >> criteria that impact the method chosen, but assuming all things > > are > > equal > > > >> (ie network bandwidth is good, access to both source and target > > are not > > an > > > >> > > > >> issue etc.), which of these methods would be quickest ? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks, > > > >> Carol > > > >> > > > >> > _ > > > >> Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > > >> http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > >> -- > > > >> Author: Carol Legros > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > >> > > > - > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and > > in > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > > may > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > >> -- > > > >> Author: > > > >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >> > > > >> Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > >> San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > > services > > > >> > > > - > > > >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > > > >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and > > in > > > >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You > > may > > > >> also send the HELP command for other information (like > > subscribing). > > > >> > > > > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: Tim Gorman > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting > services > > > - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > > also send the HELP comma
RE: OUI: Oracle Untested Infuriator
--- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may also send the HELP command for other > information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Niall Litchfield INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle Untested Infuriator
Title: RE: Oracle Untested Infuriator I understand that in Oracle 11i, Oracle OEM will introduce a new "mauve" button to auto irritate the DBA. You can set this to be random or regular intervals and the annoyance levels are configurable ;-) - Babette -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jamadagni, RajendraSent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 12:32 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle Untested Infuriator Ruth, you are right ... but then you still would need the "auto update" functionality introduced in OEM 4.0, to update the bug list on a daily basis. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -Original Message- From: Ruth Gramolini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2003 10:53 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle Untested Infuriator I love it when you think it is your stupidity so you try something 5 times, finally call Support, and they say "Oh, you found the xyz bug! You have to patch xyz to xyza." If it's a known bug, at least put a note on the disk, "don't use this until you have patched it" or something like that. A yellow sticky note would save hours of valuable time!!! End rant, Ruth
RE: Oracle 11i new features
UNLESS Oracle decides to skip Oracle 10i and go directly to Oracle 11i. They did something similar to bring the numbers for Oracle Database and Oracle Designer and Oracle Application Servers all up to 9i (9iDB, 9iAS, Designer 9i. . . .) After all, they must have introduced enough new features and bugs to skip a number or two?!?! - Babette -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mark LeithSent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:05 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle 11i new features Oracle 11/11i: http://www.vapourware.com Oracle Apps 11/11i http://www.oracle.com/appsnet/content.html http://www.oaug.org/ http://www.appsdba.com HTH Mark -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Ajay K. GargSent: 28 May 2003 11:08To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle 11i new features Hi Can anybody tell me a website where I can know about new features in Oracle 11/11i? Thanks in Advance Ajay K. Garg
RE: 10i
Don't worry about the lid being off of 10i. We will be doing an overview presentation of Oracle 13 this fall at the local user group. :-) - Babette -Original Message- Thomas F Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:05 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L who promoted you to traffic cop? this is the only way I'm able to hear about the new green gui button. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OK everyone. Traffic cop time. Everyone that is a beta partner for 10i MUST KEEP THEIR MOUTH SHUT. Don't get anyone in trouble, please. We as partners pushed Oracle for these beta programs. Conversations like this only hurt the process. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Product Architect Compuware Corporation Direct: (248) 865-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web:www.compuware.com -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:10i Got my first look at the 10i beta last night. I can't tell you much about it except to say that looking at some of the new stuff h ;-) While I'm certain many of the new features will not work perfectly for several releases afterwards, they look very cool! RF -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Freeman Robert - IL INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the named addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or disclose it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Karniotis, Stephen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mercadante, Thomas F INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Urgent: restore from hot backup w/o archivelogs
Well If you don't mind possibly destroying the database you are trying to restore, you can use: alter session set events 'IMMEDIATE trace name ADJUST_SCN level 1'; We had a strange failure / recovery situation and I was given this command. The description posted in the TAR was: "A data block SCN is ahead of the current SCN. The ORA-600 [2662] occurs when an SCN is compared to the dependent SCN (which is stored in a UGA variable). If the SCN is strictly less than the dependent SCN, then we signal the ORA-600 [2662] internal error, and print out the SCN, the dependent SCN, and the dependent SCN block." *** this can corrupt the database *** I later used it in another case, where the Sys Admin had restored the wrong version or combination of files and used level 100 instead of 1 to do a bigger increase. This was on a test instance and I didn't want to rebuild if I had a way around in the meantime. - Babette -Original Message- Chitale Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, My mind seems to have stopped working now. Can you do an ALTER DATABASE OPEN RESETLOGS if log switches have occurred and some of the database files have been updated between the first ALTER TABLESPACE BEGIN BACKUP and the last ALTER TABLESPACE END BACKUP wouldn't you get ORA-01194: file 1 needs more recovery to be consistent Do you issue an ALTER DATABASE OPEN RESETLOGS without even attempting a RECOVER DATABASE UNTIL CANCEL ? Or does it work if *ALL* the Tablespaces are put in BACKUP mode and the hot backup is provided to you without archive logs, irrespective of the number of archive logs generated and NOT work if the Tablespaces are in BACKUP mode sequentially ? Hemant At 11:14 AM 26-03-03 -0800, you wrote: >Well thanx a lot, Rachel and Jose. > >At 12 midnight the mind seems to have stopped working > >:-) > >Regards >Naveen > >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:21 AM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >alter database open resetlogs; > >you won't be able to apply the archived logs he sends over later on >(yes Jeremiah I know there is a way to recover through a resetlogs but >they will be doing work against the database in the interim!) > >but if data loss is not a problem, that's the way to go > >Rachel >--- Naveen Nahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have got a set of datafiles backed up from the client but he didn't > > send me > > the required archive logs > > > > now for testing purpose we need to get the DB up at our site but the > > archive > > logs are not there, the client will send the same but it will take > > time > > > > Is there any way to get the DB up without applying the archive logs > > > > DATA LOSS IS NOT A PROBLEM > > > > Regards > > Naveen > > > > >__ [snipped] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Problems installing Developer on XP
Thanks Chip, I will take a look at this when I get time. In the meantime, I found one solution My local expert showed me how to get this to run Right click on "setup.exe" and under properties, can set the compatibilty to Windows2000. It worked !! - Babette -Original Message- Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L http://otn.oracle.com/software/products/forms/content.html has a link to download Oracle Forms Developer/Services 6i Release 2 for Windows 98/NT/2000/XP that was posted 13 Feb 03. Note: this is the first Forms 6i installer that can install on Windows XP Professional (previous versions were disabled). The OTN Forms statement of direction is worth reading: http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/htdocs/FormsSOD.html Looks like Windows XP Professional will be the last Windows platform to be certified for Forms 6i client/server deployment. Also, OTN has a certification matrix for Forms 6i: http://otn.oracle.com/products/forms/htdocs/clientsod_forms6i.html Have Fun :) Babette Turner-Underwood wrote: >I am trying to install Developer 6i on a Pentium 4 Xeon >The Oracle Universal Intaller has a problem and >tries to send error report to Microsfot. > >I checked Metalink and the workaround was to search for >symcjit.dll in the install directories and rename >to symcjit.old ... did this. > >Also the solution was to replace JInitiator 1.1.7 >with JInitiator 1.1.8. I checked and when I installed >Oracle 9i on this machine the 1.1.8 was installed and >I do not have the 1.1.7 under c:\programs\oracle\jre > >Any other ideas on what to do ??? > > >Thanks - Babette > > > [snipped] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Problems installing Developer on XP
I am trying to install Developer 6i on a Pentium 4 Xeon The Oracle Universal Intaller has a problem and tries to send error report to Microsfot. I checked Metalink and the workaround was to search for symcjit.dll in the install directories and rename to symcjit.old ... did this. Also the solution was to replace JInitiator 1.1.7 with JInitiator 1.1.8. I checked and when I installed Oracle 9i on this machine the 1.1.8 was installed and I do not have the 1.1.7 under c:\programs\oracle\jre Any other ideas on what to do ??? Thanks - Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: sqllldr, long datatype and carriage returns - an ugly combin
For that large amount of data SQL*Plus copy should not take any longer than dumping to a flat file, ftp large file and sqlldr. SQL*Plus copy command will handle the longs. Plus you will not need additional disk storage to hold the intermediate files. You will need to have a SQL*net connection between the two databases though. Babette Turner-Underwood -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 6:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L combin Thanks for that Peter and Yechiel, whilst both posts were useful I don't think they really answered my questions. I know I could replace the CR characters but that involves a vast amount of pre-processing (these are very large tables and there are hundreds of them and they are in constant use). It may work on a varchar2 field but I am not sure about long (easy enough to test I know). I know there is also an issue with PL/SQL having a 32K limit on an variable so I could not assign it within a pl/sql loop. There is also an issue of data integrity, this is part of a database migration and we need to do it in the fastest manner possible (30 minute downtime would be nice). The combination of moving o/s, Oracle versions and having a lot of longs reduces our options quite significantly. We have looked at a 3rd party ETL tool which does what we want and moves the data very very quickly (it does not write to disk and therefore does not need to perform any file i/o processing). However it stops dead when it hits a CR (it uses sqlldr as it's main means of loading data). Changing data would not endear us to the users and gain any confidence in the process Thanks anyway John -Original Message- Sent: 12 December 2002 10:40 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L combinatio You can use select translate(field1||chr(126)||field2||chr(126),chr(015),' ') in the program that creates the sequential file. this will replace every chr(015) with blank. Yechiel Adar Mehish - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 11:23 AM > Listers, > I have got a number of tables with long columns in them. The text is > free-format and contains carriage returns. Some long columns may be empty > and others will have varying lengths of data (typical call-centre operator > input scenario) there is no end of record marker that is common between > columns. > I need to extract each record and load it via sqlldr into another system. I > could extract using field1||chr(126)||field2||chr(126) etc 126 being the ~ > character but that does not get around the chr(015) CR issue. > > I understand sqlldr has issues with CR and I have tried various ways of > resolving this problem. I cannot pre-process the records and remove the CR > character because of the volume of data and the lack of time involved. > > I have looked at the stream record format option in my control file and I > fail to get this tro work as it seems to hang the session every time I call > it. I also suspect that it defines a common end of record marker and as I do > not have one I would have to massage the data which is not a route I can go > down. PS This is Tru64 and 8.1.7 but I think it is a general issue and not > specific to any version of Oracle or o/s > > Furthermore it appears that using stream record format parameter reduces > performance which is a key requirement for us. > > The questions are > > 1) How have other people managed with carriage returns in long columns > (I suspect a CR in a varchar2 field will be a problem as well)? > 2) Is the stream record format the way I want to go (I suspect not) > 3) Has anybody any better ideas > > TIA > > John > > > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Yechiel Adar INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list,
RE: Online Index Rebuild Tuning
Sorry to take so long to respond (not much time for list lately...) If you are going to be rebuilding regularly, then DO NOT use compressed indexes. They save lots of space and seem to work fairly well, but you cannot do online index rebuilds with them (at least it was that way in 8.1.6) Another option might be to use partitioned indexes so you can rebuild a partition at a time. Strange as it may seem, Oracle allows you to create partitioned indexes on non-partitioned tables. Babette Turner-Underwood -Original Message- Richard Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 4:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Connor, That's a good point - something which I really hadn't thought about. Unfortunately many of the indexes relate to foreign keys and primary keys, which are an ever increasing value here. I've already tried rebuilding one or two small indexes and they shrunk from ~180MB to ~70MB. Also, I have heard about compressing indexes, but it is something I have never used before. Can anyone shed some light on the topic? Are there any drawbacks (ie: reduced IO but increased processing)? Thanks, Mark. Connor McDonald To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Online Index Rebuild Tuning Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] om 05/12/2002 20:24 Please respond to ORACLE-L The first question is whether you really need to rebuild them. If the indexes columns are such that the values are likely to be reused, then I wouldn't bother - since that deleted space will get reused as required. Cheers Connor --- Mark Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Folks, > > I know that when creating indexes a couple of > settings such as > SORT_AREA_SIZE can have a big impact on duration. > What settings apply > during online rebuilds? Are the rules the same? > What tips do you have? > > Basically we have some very large indexes in an OLTP > system (several > indexes are across ~250m rows, several GB in > physical storage) which have > fairly low density due to deletes and updates. In > looks like the time has > come to rebuild then to gain some performance. Any > other suggestions > regarding tricks to avoid this, etc would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Mark. > > PS: If you going to suggest things which are > version specific we're > dealing with 8.1.7.4 on Solaris. > > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> >Privileged/Confidential information may be > contained in this message. > If you are not the addressee indicated in > this message >(or responsible for delivery of the message > to such person), > you may not copy or deliver this message > to anyone. > In such case, you should destroy this message and > kindly notify the sender >by reply e-mail or by telephone on (61 3) > 9612-6999. >Please advise immediately if you or your employer > does not consent to > Internet e-mail for messages of this > kind. > Opinions, conclusions and other information > in this message > that do not relate to the official > business of > Transurban City Link Ltd > shall be understood as neither given nor > endorsed by it. > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Mark Richard > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web > hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of > 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > from). You may > a
RE: DUAL
Thanks for the great suggestion! I will remember to use that one when those developers start getting too lippy ;-) Babette -Original Message- Richard Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 4:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Howdy, I believe that truncating DUAL has also been known to leave developers scratching their head. Of course I could never recommend that anyone try it though. "Farnsworth, Dave" iture.com>cc: Sent by: Subject: DUAL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/12/2002 05:14 Please respond to ORACLE-L Hallo, Problems with dual, please read link http://searchdatabase.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid13_gci831497,00.html TIA, Dave -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Farnsworth, Dave INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply e-mail or by telephone on (61 3) 9612-6999. Please advise immediately if you or your employer does not consent to Internet e-mail for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Transurban City Link Ltd shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mark Richard INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services ----- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Interesting DBMS_APPLICATION usage
We were testing a small script that calls DBMS_APPLICATION to set the module and action. Most of the time we did not see the results in V$SESSION. We added a dbms_lock.sleep to make the script run a little longer. What was happening was BOTH SQL*PLus and TOAD seem to update the program (and DBMS_APPLICATION info). Immediate after the SQL script terminated, the information at V$SESSION had been reset to what it was before the script was called. interesting, no ? Babette Turner-Underwood -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: IOUG 2003
Yeah that was my thought too Rachel. Perhaps we have many new members on the list and they do not realize that your official and proper title is Goddess ;-) Babette -Original Message- Carmichael Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Queen? Is that a promotion or demotion? :) One does not usually TEST something by releasing it to the public. Unless one is MS and in earlier versions, Oracle. :) --- "Karniotis, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah. The Queen is ranting again. > > Confirmations have not been sent out by the IOUG as of yet. Should > be > sometime within the next week or so. The setup for the speakers is > to have > us test the registration and to have it ready when the confirmations > go out. > I would assume that registration will be comparable to last year. > > Thank You > > Stephen P. Karniotis > Product Architect > Compuware Corporation > Direct: (248) 865-4350 > Mobile: (248) 408-2918 > Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web: www.compuware.com > > -Original Message- > Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 10:04 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: IOUG 2003 > > Okay, so I'm trying to get costs for conferences etc so my boss can > budget for them. > > I go to the IOUG site and look at costs for the 2003 conference. I > see > "register online" so I click on it. They have it set up for speaker > registration already, and ask for the email confirmation code you > received. > > Has anyone on this list, who submitted an abstract, actually RECEIVED > a > response? Either acceptance or rejection? I haven't. > > How can you set something up to allow people to register if they > don't > know which way to register? > > Sheesh. I can't even register for the University Session I want > because > I don't know what status I should use when registering. > > Rachel > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > > The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee > only. It > contains information that may be confidential. Unless you are the > named > addressee or an authorized designee, you may not copy or use it, or > disclose > it to anyone else. If you received it in error please notify us > immediately > and then destroy it. > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Karniotis, Stephen > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services > - > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the offici
RE: New development in Cobol or PL/SQL - please help
Thanks for all the comments I did do a little more digging. I found out that the reason they are using Cobol is that there are Cobol programs that have the business logic for doing benefit calculations. They do not want to re-write those modules. So they are doing the entire application in Cobol and only using the database as a place to save the data. As far as staff and skills, the current job market has an excess of persons with PL/SQL skills. So I don't think the decisions was made with any respect to how many people will be able to maintain this over the next 10 years. The number of people with COBOL skills is declining at the organization. But if they keep doing new development in COBOL, then maybe they will be able to convince the younger programmers to learn it :-P I will have to look into the MQ-Series module for Oracle that was mentionned. -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Babette - For some code, PL/SQL will offer significantly better performance. For other code it may not matter so much. One of an organization's biggest hidden investments is their code. If they feel COBOL is where they prefer to invest, that isn't the end of the world. For one thing, it doesn't tie them as closely to Oracle as coding everything in PL/SQL would. If you want better reasons not to do this, you need to nose around and find who the players are and what is their motivation. Arguments succeed much better when you know your audience. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 4:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I just found out today that we have a major development initiative that is starting and they are planning on using Pro*Cobol to develop the application. (my head is still shaking in disbelief!!!) So we will have a Java front-end, invoking MQ series that will go across to the mainframe for MQ series to invoke Pro*Cobol programs that will then do the processing (accessing data and doing calculations) and then return data. If anyone has been in this or a similar situation, please help. I need some really good arguments as to why we should put the business logic into PL/SQL instead of Pro*Cobol. I understand the reason we are using Oracle is that the director has 15 years experience with it and loves it. Aaargh!!! thanks Babette [snipped] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on MVS able to submit JCL ??
Thanks but EVERYTHING is on the mainframe (including Oracle). As far as I know there is no such thing as PIPEs and daemon processes on the mainframe. I can place skeleton JCL in a proclib. The problem is getting Oracle on the mainframe to somehome invoke the internal reader to submit the JCL. -Original Message- Greg Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:04 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Babette, If you are on a UNIX platfrom you can ftp the JCL directly to the JES reader to submit a job on the mainframe. You need to set the parameter "site filetype=JES". On my web site (http://www.oracle-developer.us/code.htm) I have code posted to allow Oracle 8i or greater to FTP directly from Oracle. Here is an example using just UNIX: HOW TO SUBMIT A MAINFRAME BATCH JOB FROM UNIX STEP ONE: Create your jcl in a unix file. remember to use all upper case! EXAMPLE: iefbr14.jcl //M33TEST1 JOB (HRP,TEST),M33,CLASS=V,MSGCLASS=X,NOTIFY=M33 //STEP01 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //DD1 DD DSN=M33.TEST.FILE2, // UNIT=HRSDA, // SPACE=(CYL,(1,1),RLSE), // DCB=(RECFM=FB,LRECL=080,BLKSIZE=27920,DSORG=PS), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //* STEP TWO: Create a job script to FTP your JCL to the mainframe. 192.6.1.79 is the address of the mainframe for this example. 'uid' should be replaced with your user id. 'password' should be replaced with your password. 'iefbr14.jcl' is the file that we created in step one. Remember to grant execute rights to the job script using chmod. ### ftp a job to be submitted on the mainframe ftp -vn 192.6.1.79 <http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Call for a featured speaker for St. Louis Oracle Users Gr
We have done something similar at our Ottawa Oracle User group (for our DBA / Developer Day). Over the past few years we have had many excellent speakers come and present. However, in thinking about them, I doubt they would have felt comfortable in responding to this kind of e-mail. (perhaps modesty) We found that by attending IOUG Live conference and then asking people we had seen present to be a very effective method for getting speakers. I can't recall anyone ever turning us down when approached. If you did not get the response you were expecting frmo the e-mail, perhaps give my approach a try. (or contact me offline for a list of my personal favourites ). Babette -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 1:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You're right...I should have modified my list to include just "good speakers" as well. Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Jim, > >Come on, give some of the new folks a shot at it! We'll run out of >presenters otherwise. > >Dick Goulet >NOUG past presenter > >Reply Separator >Subject:Call for a featured speaker for St. Louis Oracle Users Group >Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hawkins) >Date: 11/13/2002 8:10 AM > >Hello all, > >We are currently looking for someone to feature at our St. Louis Oracle Users >Group meeting on Thursday, December 12th from Noon to 5PM. We would, of course, >pick up all travel expenses, and this can easily be just a day-trip itenerary. >Is anyone on this list available and would like to work something out? >Obviously, we are looking for the authors, Guru's, IOUG presenters, other User >Group presenters, etc. > >Thanks, >Jim >-- >â-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ- >ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ >-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ª >Jim Hawkins >OracleAc / MS SQL*ServerAc Database Administration > >St. Louis, MO A 63167 >â-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ- >ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ >-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ªâ-ª > > >__ >The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp > >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Jim Hawkins > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services >- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > -- Jim Hawkins Oracle© / MS SQL*Server© Database Administration St. Louis, MO 63167 __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jim Hawkins INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
New development in Cobol or PL/SQL - please help
I just found out today that we have a major development initiative that is starting and they are planning on using Pro*Cobol to develop the application. (my head is still shaking in disbelief!!!) So we will have a Java front-end, invoking MQ series that will go across to the mainframe for MQ series to invoke Pro*Cobol programs that will then do the processing (accessing data and doing calculations) and then return data. If anyone has been in this or a similar situation, please help. I need some really good arguments as to why we should put the business logic into PL/SQL instead of Pro*Cobol. I understand the reason we are using Oracle is that the director has 15 years experience with it and loves it. Aaargh!!! thanks Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle on MVS able to submit JCL ??
Does anyone on this listserv using Oracle on a mainframe? I was asked today if I can use Oracle's extproc feature on the mainframe to submit JCL. I said that I doubted it because the OS structure is so much different than UNIX or NT, but I would look into it. Has anyone tried to somehow have Oracle PL/SQL trigger or submit JCL?? Thanks -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: why is this happening
may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Leonard, George INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle & SAN Experiences?
Title: The Sys A client site that I was supporting a while ago had big problems with their NAS. While doing Oracle backups to tape, the application would drop connections. In a SAN environment, there might also be similar problems. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David WagonerSent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:59 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle & SAN Experiences? The Sys. Admin. team wants to consolidate storage (and probably get a new toy too) on all of our servers, so they are evaluating a SAN (LSI Logic E4600). The DBA team is doing some research to determine the pros and cons of doing this, and Id like to hear any of your experiences (good and bad) using SAN with Oracle. My understanding is that all of our database servers would remain intact, but the attached disk storage would move into the SAN. So, we still have the Production, Test, and App. servers with their processors and memory, Oracle homes, etc. The SAN will hold database files from Production, Test, Apps., staging, ODS,data warehouse, etc. Their arguments: -the SAN is very scalable (500 GB 40 TB) -easy to manage disks in one central location -fancy statistics collection on all SAN disks -much higher throughput on the fiber SAN connections than with locally attached disk arrays -capable of using mixed RAID levels (0, 1, 1+0, 5, etc.) -can partition sets of disks in the SAN for specific server access -Snapshot backup capability is very fast in the SAN (much faster than traditional Oracle backups) DBA arguments: -How will this affect database performance? -What are the drawbacks, if any, with the pre-fetch of data performed by the SAN (i.e., SAN cache) -How tunable is the SAN -Fast, small disks are better for performance and less wasted space than the typical huge disks in a SAN (its possible to use smaller disks in the SAN) -Prove it! After reading the Sane SAN article and a case study about Volvo implementing a SAN, I believe its possible to have a great Oracle/SAN implementation if its setup correctly and tuned. Other resources that you can Google are Using SVA SnapShot with Oracle, Performance Benchmark LSI Logic E4600 (STK D178), SAN Storage for Open Systems Environments, and of course check the OraFaq. Thanks for sharing, David Wagoner Oracle DBA
RE: ORACLE-Function problem
Had a similar problem recently where characterset on database differed than client. We had to add NLS_CHARSET.zip (or was it .jar?) to the CLASSPATH. - Babette Turner-Underwood -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SavitaSent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:33 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: ORACLE-Function problemHi All, I have a problem executing the function in oracle through JDBC. I have written a select statement inside which I am calling a function. The query is something like select OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_CASE_VIEW.OS_CASE_ID as CASE_MSG__OS_CASE_ID, OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_CASE_VIEW.OS_CUSTOMER_ID as CASE_MSG__OS_CUSTOMER_ID, OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_CASE_VIEW.OS_CUSTOMER_ID as CASE_MSG__OS_CUST_ID, OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_CASE_VIEW.OS_UNIT_ID as CASE_MSG__OS_UNIT_ID, OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_CASE_VIEW.CREATED_DATE as CASE_MSG__CREATED_DATE, 'OS_1' as CASE_MSG__UPDATED_BY FROM OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_CASE_VIEW WHERE ROWNUM <=(40 - OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_getMaxDataId(2)) ORDER BY to_number(OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_CASE_VIEW.OS_CASE_ID); here OSP_CRM_EXCHANGE_getMaxDataId(2) is the function. When I execute this query in command prompt Itis working fine,but when I use it insied a executeQueryStatement(query) in JDBC I am getting following error ORA-00911: invalid character I am not able to figure out how to modify this. Any help will be highly appriciated. -- Best Regards - Savita Hewlett Packard (India) +91 80 2051288 (Phone) 847 1288 (HP Telnet)
RE: dbms_lock.sleep irregularities
One other suggestion If you know what time you want to sleep until, why not just write the accu_sleep procedure to accept time to sleep and have it calculate how many chunks, etc it needs (rather than calculate seconds and then use the seconds)?? - - - Psuedo code: - - - declare time_to_sleep_to date := trunc(sysdate) + 10/24; begin sleep_until (time_to_sleep_to); end; / and re-write accusleep (or encapsulate it into sleep_until) -Original Message- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here is a working version of accusleep if anyone is interested. I ran a test to sleep for about 65 minutes, and the result was within 1 second of the target time. 08:56:25 rsysdevdb.radisys.com - jkstill@dv01 SQL> @accusleep Procedure created. 08:56:28 rsysdevdb.radisys.com - jkstill@dv01 SQL> @accutest 3809 PL/SQL procedure successfully completed. 09:59:59 rsysdevdb.radisys.com - jkstill@dv01 SQL> Here is the procedure: -- create or replace procedure accusleep ( seconds_in number ) is v_chunk_size constant integer := 100; v_compensation constant number := 0.976; v_chunks integer; v_remainder integer; v_seconds integer; begin v_seconds := seconds_in * v_compensation; v_chunks := trunc(v_seconds/v_chunk_size); v_remainder := mod(v_seconds, v_chunk_size); for i in 1..v_chunks loop dbms_lock.sleep(v_chunk_size); end loop; dbms_lock.sleep(v_remainder); --dbms_output.put_line(v_chunks); --dbms_output.put_line(v_remainder); end; / -- Here is the test: declare seconds integer; begin -- seconds from now til 10:00 AM select (to_date(trunc(sysdate)+(10/24)) - sysdate ) * ( 24*60*60) into seconds from dual; dbms_output.put_line(seconds); accusleep(seconds); end; / Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Access with ACCESS
They might drop it, but then you could have a DBMS-JOB that checks for this view in each schema and if it doesn't exist, re-creates it for them... saves having to remember doing it when creating new DEV schemas ... In an attempt to see how tight we could make security we took this notion a step further and removed public access and ownership to ALL of the USER_, ALL_ and DBA_ views (in a separate test database of course). Worked surprisingly well. We are considering using this as part of our security strategy to lock down our database. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 7:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Here's another option which is far from perfect and is definitely sneaky (which is what I like about it)... Depending on which ODBC driver is in use, upon connection the objects available for use will be queried via the ALL_OBJECTS database view. In the past, when we've wanted to limit the objects viewable from MS-Access and MS-Excel, we modified ALL_OBJECTS accordingly. For example, during a Sybase-to-Oracle conversion, the users were used to seeing all object names in lower-case and belonging to a schema named "dbo". So in Oracle, we created objects in a schema by that name (all in lower-case), but they always saw hundreds of other objects (usually related to public synonoyms) that they didn't care about. Instead of getting rid of all the public synonyms, we modified the view ALL_OBJECTS within their account to make it more selective about what it displayed. It seemed to work well and everyone was happy... My suggestion to you is somewhat similar, and based upon the idea that "legitimate" users may likely not query the ALL_OBJECTS view (which could a heck of an assumption, but see how it fits). For these user accounts, create a private ALL_OBJECTS view within that account that queries from SYS.ALL_OBJECTS where 1 = 2, thereby guaranteeing that it returns no rows. Thus, users of that ODBC driver will see nothing to query from... Of course, they may notice the new view in their account and drop it. But I guess that depends on their level of sophistication. The upshot is that it is easy to implement and could be effective, depending on the sophistication of these users... Just an idea; your requirements may vary and remember that different ODBC drivers may use other views or techniques to populate a list of objects. But it could be a very cheap way to lock out folks using ODBC applications... - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:20 AM > Some options could be: > > - password protected roles > - application roles (9i) > - virtual private database > > each being enabled via the applications that *you* > control and thus not from Access. > > Some/all of the above could possibly be subverted in > time by a smart and malicious user, but it should > suffice in most cases > > hth > connor > > --- "Jesse, Rich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, not really. If your Oracle version > > is at least 8i (you don't > > say which you're using), you could create a LOGON > > trigger where you could > > glean the "PROGRAM" variable set by the client. The > > problem with this is > > that MS can sometimes have very long path names to > > get to MSACCESS.EXE, > > which will then be truncated by the "PROGRAM" size > > of 50 chars (or is it > > 64?). And different versions of Winders puts the > > forsaken tool in different > > locations. You could *mostly* prevent ACCESS from > > access, but it can never > > be 100%. > > > > Rich > > > > > > Rich Jesse System/Database > > Administrator > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech > > International, Sussex, WI USA > > > > -Original Message- > > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 5:59 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > How do I stop users from accessing Oracle tables > > with Access? They have > > rights to the tables in Oracle and should have those > > rights, yet I do not > > want anyone to be able to pull the data off into an > > access database. Is it > > possible to stop this without taking their > > privileges to the Oracle tables > > away? > > Thank you, > > Laura > > -- > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: TSPITR Question
Also only available on Enterprise Edition. - Babette -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 10:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Brian - Since nobody seems to have responded to your question, yes, there are plenty of opportunities for "gotchas" with TSPITR. To recover deleted data, you may want to take a look at LogMiner. Less risk. Normally, to recover deleted data, you will be performing the TSPITR on a test (or recovery) database so you avoid losing the data changes that were made to your production system after the deletion. Otherwise, you are performing a "full database point in time recovery". The concept behind TSPITR is to perform recovery on a small subset of your database somewhere separate from your production database, then once you've recovered the data you need, export and import it back to the production system. Without more details on your situation and your experience level, about the most help I can be is to say "take a full backup first". Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 4:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L List - I have the "opportunity" to learn first-hand about TSPITR today. I need to recover a good bit of data that was recently deleted, and do not have a recent enough export to work from. My question is this - I'm reading the documentation now, and one of the big, bold Notes is that you should *NOT* try TSPITR for the first time on a production database, or if you have a time constraint. From looking at the instructions, I believe that I understand what to do, and while I would love to test this on another instance, I may not be able to. So I ask you - do you know of any "gotchas" that I need to be aware of?? Thanks In Advance, Brian -- | Brian McGraw /* DBA */ Infinity Insurance | | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | -- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: index table corruption...
!! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !! A few different scenarios 1) missing indexes will have slower performance than possible 2) invalid indexes ... will not be used, and again will have slower performance. (indexes can be invalid due to failing direct loads, moving tables) 3) corrupt indexes ... unpredictable results. Often you will get errors (like ORA-600 or corrupt block), but I have also seen where the result set was wrong and no indication of a problem (typically manifests itself in different number of rows returned when do select statement and do the same select modified to invalidate the use of indexes (old PK+0 or PK || '' trick). HTH - babette [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 11:40 PM > !! Please do not post Off Topic to this List !! > > Hi all, > > If index table is corrupted or missing will it caused downtime to the db ? > or it will just slowdown the query due to index available for usage ? > > > > Thank you > > Sinardy > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Sinardy > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Fast Refresh of Snaphots Locking?
There was a bug (fixed 8.1.7.?) in the way oracle handles snapshot refreshes. Basically it invalidates all SQL that is using the refresh and takes a lock on the object that is being used. We found that this caused severe shared_pool fragmentation on a few of our instances. Also, the way Oracle does a snapshot refresh is a full tablescan of the snapshot log. So once the log gets fairly full, you need to do an alter table move; to lower the HWM to get half decent performance again. - Babette - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:30 AM > When we do a fast refresh of a snapshot and the number of entries in the log > are high (750,000+) our users complain about poor performance for approximately > a 5 - 10 minute period. (This occurs in the database where the master resides) > As of yet I have not been notified in a timely manner to investigate as it is > occuring. I thought there was no locking on the master site, so my initial > reaction is that this is not the issue. It is also strange that it is a short > period of time. I believe much shorter than the time it takes to refresh the > snapshot. Also, only appears to be an issue with a large (in our shop) number > of transactions in the snapshot log. No complaints any other time. Has > anybody seen any threshold limit for refreshing incrementally (fast)? Is there > locking occuring on dictionary tables which is extended in length due to the > number of transactions? Any thoughts? Thanks > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Tracy Rahmlow > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: OT Terrorist Acts
I am in Canada and everyone in our office was as affected by this terrible tragedy and loss of life as if it had happened to us. We were saddened and sickened by it and feared for many of our co-workers, several of whom are located in New York. The event was much worse than the media let on. I suspect the government has issued some kind of warning to the media. Yesterday around noon (on the radio), we had heard that there were 7 or 8 planes involved and one or two of them crashed at or near Camp David. By 12:30, when I turned on the television (and for the rest of the night), all we heard was there were four planes that were hijacked and crashed. I checked the paper today and the line is still just stating four planes!! I am beginning to wonder how much worse it really was than the media was allowed to let on. That thought is very worrisome. Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: PLS-307 error - makes no sense
If I recall correctly, you can have an overloaded function or procedure in a package BUT they must be different in the PARAMETERS and not in what they return. You would need to have one of the functions have VARCHAR2, VARCHAR2 for parameters and the other needs to be another combination of datatypes. - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:09 PM > Dear List, > > First off, this is kind of long, so don't start reading unless you have > some time. :) > > I've run into this before, and now I can't remember how to resolve it. > > ( database is 8.1.7.0 ) > > The Signature of a procedure or function is made up of: > > 1. function or procedure name > 2. data types of arguments > 3. mode of arguments ( IN, OUT, IN OUT ) > 4. return value in the case of a function > > There are some other special cases, but this is enough for this discussion. > > The documentataion is quite clear on one thing; changing the name of an > argument will *not* change the signature. > > Here's some code to demonstrate > > == > > create or replace package ftest > is > >function login( > username_in varchar2 > , password_in varchar2 >) return boolean; > >function login( > username_in varchar2 > , password_in varchar2 >) return varchar2; > > end; > / > > show errors package ftest > > create or replace package body ftest > is > >function login( > username_in varchar2 > , password_in varchar2 >) return boolean >is >begin > return true; >end; > >function login( > username_in varchar2 > , password_in varchar2 >) return varchar2 >is > login_success boolean := false; >begin > > login_success := login( > username_in > , password_in > ); > > if login_success then > return 'LOGIN'; > else > return 'NOLOGIN'; > end if; >end; > > end; > / > > show errors package body ftest > === > > Try to compile this and you will get : > > Errors for PACKAGE BODY FTEST: > > LINE/COL > -- --- > ERROR > -- -- > 21/3 > PL/SQL: Statement ignored > > 21/21 > PLS-00307: too many declarations of 'LOGIN' match this call > > > The signatures of these two function are different: one returns a boolean > and the other returns a varchar. The login() function that returns a > varchar > should be able to call a function of the same name and arguments that > returns a boolean. But it doesn't work. > > The code below does work. Notice the two changes. The login() function > that returns a boolean now has a prefix of 'b_' on it's input arguments. > > The login() function that returns a varchar now uses named parameters to > call the login() function that returns a boolean. > > Both of these changes are necessary to make this work. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > > Jared > > > > > create or replace package ftest > is > >function login( > b_username_in varchar2 > , b_password_in varchar2 >) return boolean; > >function login( > username_in varchar2 > , password_in varchar2 >) return varchar2; > > end; > / > > show errors package ftest > > create or replace package body ftest > is > >function login( > b_username_in varchar2 > , b_password_in varchar2 >) return boolean >is >begin > return true; >end; > >function login( > username_in varchar2 > , password_in varchar2 >) return varchar2 >is > login_success boolean := false; >begin > > login_success := login( > b_username_in => username_in > , b_password_in => password_in > ); > > if login_success then > return 'LOGIN'; > else > return 'NOLOGIN'; > end if; >end; > > > end; > / > > show errors package body ftest > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: database upgrade policy?
ng list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Paul Baumgartel INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Performance analysis (enqueue and buffer busy waits)
What is "unil-bialism" ?? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:12 PM > FYI, in a previous message I detailed some of the tuning efforts we have > been working on in regards to getting a EDI sales order processing job to > process 150,000 lines per hour. Well the major point of contention was > freelists. We went from 250 lines per minute to over 1500 lines per minute > simply by increasing freelists on some tables and indexes. We saw an > unbelievable 20,000 commits per minute on a 12 CPU AIX box. Looked like we > could actually achieve the client's goal until we turned on advanced > pricing. It added 60% more overhead and increased user calls 3 fold which > pegged all 12 CPU's at 100%. I have a detail trace file event 10046 level 8 > to look at and see if I can improve any. Think I will give unil-bialism a > try. > > Thanks, > Ethan > http://www.geocities.com/epost1 > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Jonathan Lewis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:56 AM > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > >Subject: Re: Performance analysis (enqueue and buffer busy waits) > > > > > > > >Small rollback segments can be recycled > >without being written to disc. This can > >reduce the total write-load on the system > >and enhance your general use of the > >db_block_buffer. > > > > > >Jonathan Lewis > > > >Host to The Co-Operative Oracle Users' FAQ > >http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html > > > >Author of: > >Practical Oracle 8i: Building Efficient Databases > >See http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/book_rev.html > > > >For latest news of public appearances > >See http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk > > > >Screen saver or Life saver: http://www.ud.com > >Use spare CPU to assist in cancer research. > > [snipped] > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Performance analysis (enqueue and buffer busy waits)
I am curious. What are you trying to accomplish by decreasing rollback segment size?? - Babette -Original Message- Lewis Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 6:52 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Looking at your trace file, most of your lost time appears to be in an update of F4211. UPDATE CRPDTA.F4211 SET SDRSDJ=:BND1,SDPPDJ=:BND2, SDCARS=:BND3,SDMOT=:BND4, SDFRTH=:BND5,SDUSER=:BND6,SDPID=:BND7, SDJOBN=:BND8,SDUPMJ=:BND9,SDTDAY= :BND10 WHERE ( SDCDCD = :KEY1 ) 9 seconds CPU, 283 seconds elapsed. I doubt if freelists are your problem, but possibly the lost time is initrans. NB from 8.1.6 you can change initrans without rebuilding the table - which is good if you don't have to go back to the old data and keep doing the same concurrent updates. There is no point in going above initrans = 20, but you might push it up to 10. This may improve the enqueue (TX mode 4?) problem, but if it does it will probably make the log sync problem worse. Try and swing more resources into DBWn - increase LRU latches to start with, and check whether async I/O, I/O slaves, or multiple db_writers works best for you. You may also want to review the size of your log files (upwards), and your rollback segments (downwards). Jonathan Lewis Seminars on getting the best out of Oracle Last few places available for Sept 10th/11th See http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html [snipped] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT - Vaccines
be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > Confidential > This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property > of Belkin Components and/or its affiliates, are confidential, > and are intended solely for the use of the individual or > entity to whom this e-mail is addressed. If you are not one > of the named recipients or otherwise have reason to believe > that you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the > sender and delete this message immediately from your computer. > Any other use, retention, dissemination, forwarding, printing > or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Kathy Duret > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mohan, Ross INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: OT -- training
WHAT??? ECO went under? When did that happen. (man am I ever out of the loop!!) - Babette -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JOE TESTASent: Monday, August 13, 2001 3:31 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Re: OT -- training Well i get to go to IOUG every year(even if i wasn't presenting), i bypass on openworld and was hoping to do the ECO thing before they went under :( joe - Original Message -To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 10:46 AMJust out of curiosity, how many days / weeks of real training did youremployer provide you with in the last couple of years?"real" is in quotes, I don't mean the little 1 - 3 day seminars given byCareerTrack and other "training" companies, or management-related stuff likelittle MBA-flavoured certificates from universities.Oh, and did the amount of training you received match what you were toldduring your job interview?[snipped]
RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k
Thanks Bruce. That ifile part was the part I was missing. (looks like the the closest I can get to a unix link) I like the ifile implementation better than having two copies of the init.ora. Babette -Original Message- Bruce (CALBBAY) Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:21 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Babette, I'm not sure if I have read this anywhere but I think that the registry entry (as created by oradim) might be used when the service is started. However, when using startup the Oracle executable looks in %oracle_home%\database for the file initMINE.ora. What I do is create a file called in the database directory that has just 1 line - an ifile pointing to the pfile in the pfile directory. This is what the Database create wizard does in terms of the inti file. So for example I have something like: C:\oracle\product\817\database>type initbdb2.ora IFILE='c:\oracle\admin\BDB2\pfile\pfileBDB2.ora' C:\oracle\product\817\database>dir c:\oracle\admin\bdb2\pfile Directory of c:\oracle\admin\bdb2\pfile 19/07/2001 13:49 . 19/07/2001 13:49 .. 20/07/2001 14:514,733 pfileBDB2.ora Of course, just like Unix, when using the startup command you can specify the full path and name of the init file if you wish. Regards, Bruce -Original Message- Sent: Friday, 17 August 2001 1:51 As everyone in this thread seems so knowledgeable about NT, I would like to digress and ask a related question. When I use oradim to create a service, oradim -new -sid MINE -pfile c:\mine\initMINE.ora . The service is created, the instance is started!! BUT, when I use svrmgrl to shutdown the instance and then try to start it up, it complains because the init file does not exist in %ORACLE_HOME%\pfile BUT the oradim DID create the entry: ORA_MINE_PFILE = c:\mine\initMINE.ora So what is this registry entry used for? And why do I need to place the init.or under %ORACLE_HOME%\pfile Thanks Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k
Title: RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k As everyone in this thread seems so knowledgeable about NT, I would like to digress and ask a related question. When I use oradim to create a service, oradim -new -sid MINE -pfile c:\mine\initMINE.ora The service is created, the instance is started!! BUT, when I use svrmgrl to shutdown the instance and then try to start it up, it complains because the init file does not exist in %ORACLE_HOME%\pfile BUT the oradim DID create the entry: ORA_MINE_PFILE = c:\mine\initMINE.ora So what is this registry entry used for? And why do I need to place the init.or under %ORACLE_HOME%\pfile Thanks Babette - Original Message - From: Mercadante, Thomas F To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k Rick, I think Networking services means TNSNAMES/SQLNET.ORA stuff (like a client install). You could do a custom install (I think) and just install TNS Listener, and not the starter database. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message-From: Cale, Rick T (Richard) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:14 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k Ok, I am getting a little closer to figuring out what is going on. I did mis-state the type of install I did first. It was minimal installation without the starter database. This did NOT create a listener service. However it clearly states it would install networking services. I did a 2nd TYPICAL install and it did create a tnslistener service. As soon as I get time/ambition/curiousity I will do a 3rd install WITH starter database to see it that will create a listener service. I really do not want a starter database installed to get a tnslistener service but I could always delete it if I do not want it(Kldugy)!!! Rick -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:28 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k Hi Rick, I ran into this as well. I figured I didn't need a listener on my w2k box because everything was going to be local. However I couldn't connect via sqlplus gui without a listener (no listener error - maybe because I am specifying the sid). I guess it's just another difference between Oracle on windows and Oracle on Unix. If I remember right (it's been s long) when you connect in Unix with the $ORACLE_SID as part of your env, you can do so without @. If you do it with the @, it looks for a listener. When connecting via a windows gui, you are specifying the sid. I'm guessing it's doing something similar to the @ in the background. The cmd window connects without the @ because it's in the environment. By the way, how do you display an environment variable in Windows? I thought it was echo %ORACLE_SID%, but that doesn't work. Anyone? Again I may be pre-coffee. Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 954-935-4117 -Original Message- From: Cale, Rick T (Richard) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: No TNSListner service after intall 8.1.7 on Win 2k Hi All, I did a typical installation of Oracle 8.1.7 on Win 2k. It appears to have installed Ok. I can use srvmgrl -> create database -> etc. However when I try to use worksheet I get no listner. I should not need one from the server. Anyway the install did not create service to start the listener. All other installs I have done on NT always created a tnslistner service. This in my first install on Win 2k. Anyone have any ideas on why service did not get created and how to correct? Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cale, Rick T (Richard) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing:
Re: A high-availability question (standby , replication or ....)
Ahh but it does not have to sit there just waiting !!! We had a DEC TruCluster, with the ASE failover software (available software everywhere). This was NOT OPS We still used our failover box but for less powerful and less critical app. We decided that during failover, we could tolerate slightly less than optimum performance and had BOTH systems set-up to failover but used different init.ora files so they used different amounts of resources on failover. You could easily extend this idea to have your "sandbox" on that big server just sitting there and not use much disk space allocated to it. In the event of failover, simply add shutting down the "sandbox" instance. babette - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 6:43 PM > HACMP on AIX works the same way. It is more complex like I said to setup > and run. But the failover abilities are Great. But it was expensive. Lots > of dual hardware that just sat there waiting for a failover. > [snipped] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Checking Oracle user Process in unix
No, Not quite right. Oracle WILL spawn a process if you are using dedicate server processes. It will ONLY NOT spawn the process if you are using MTS (well technically it could, if it needed an additional server process and you were not yet at the max_servers value but I digress...) Message - From: Jyoti N To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: RE: Checking Oracle user Process in unix Whenever you say $sqlplus , Oracle spawns a dedicated server process to connect to database using Bequeath protocol (in this case) which bypasses the listener ,I guess. When you use the connect string(sqlplus@>), Oracle connects thru the listener process/port(whatever), so probably, it does not require to spawn another process. HTH, Jyoti >From: Narender Akula <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Checking Oracle user Process in unix >Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:40:33 -0800 > >Hi Babette, > >1) the Instance and user2,user1 are on same mechine. so no dblink...no >listener involved. >2) user1,user2 is not using any sql* net connections.but still for user1 >shadow process shows but not for user2. > the only difference >is user1 is connecting explicitly (sqlplus username/password) >and user 2 is connecting via shell scripts. (/BDE/v1/tlcrs_load_tables/x.sh >--> sqlplus username/password). > >naren >-Original Message- >Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2001 14:16 >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > >Two possible reasons > >1) crsprod (the database for the db link) is on a remote machine. >In that case, the dedicated server will not show on this machine. > >2) For SQL*net connections, the dedicated server sessions are created and >owned by the oracle user. > >- Babette >- Original Message - >To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:55 PM > > > > hi List, > > I am checking some oracle users (user1 and user2) processes (sunsolaris) > > using ps -ef|grep. > > > > $ps -ef|grep sqlplus > > user1 26671 5991 0 10:36:35 pts/20 0:00 sqlplus sys > > me 27415 25766 0 11:47:36 pts/17 0:00 grep sqlplus > > user2 27408 26250 0 11:46:27 pts/7 0:00 sqlplus > > tlcrsdev/tlcrsdev@crsprod @/home/dcook/TIPS/BDE/v1/tlcrs_load_tables/lo > > > > checking oracle process...for user1 > > $ps -ef|grep 26671 > > user1 26671 5991 0 10:36:35 pts/20 0:00 sqlplus sys > > oracle 26672 26671 0 10:36:38 ? 0:00 oracleTERAPROD > > (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES)(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=beq))) > > > > checking oracle process .. for user2 (running script for shell program- > > updating table) > > $ps -ef|grep 27408 > > dcook 27408 26250 0 11:46:27 pts/7 0:00 sqlplus > > tlcrsdev/tlcrsdev@crsprod @/home/dcook/TIPS/BDE/v1/tlcrs_load_tables/lo > > > > My question is for user2 why I am not able to see the oracle process. > > > > can somebody tell me what is happening here? am i missing something. > > > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Babette Turner-Underwood > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >-- >Author: Narender Akula > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 >San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >
Re: Datafile Migration Tool
Do you have any idea of how I can do this ? Steps? Metalink Note? or ??? Thanks Babette - Original Message - From: Peter Gram To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Datafile Migration Tool Hi Babette On a unix box the BBED is not linked by default, you have to modify the ins_rdbms.mk file and then you can link the bbed utility ! Babette Turner-Underwood wrote: At which version of Oracle did they remove this?It is NOT in any my directories. I checked:- 8.0.3 ORACLE_HOME/bin- 8.1.5 ORACLE_HOME/bin - 8.1.6 ORACLE_HOME/bin- 7.3.4 ORACLE_HOME/bin Thanks,Babette[snipped]
Re: Checking Oracle user Process in unix
Two possible reasons 1) crsprod (the database for the db link) is on a remote machine. In that case, the dedicated server will not show on this machine. 2) For SQL*net connections, the dedicated server sessions are created and owned by the oracle user. - Babette - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:55 PM > hi List, > I am checking some oracle users (user1 and user2) processes (sunsolaris) > using ps -ef|grep. > > $ps -ef|grep sqlplus > user1 26671 5991 0 10:36:35 pts/20 0:00 sqlplus sys > me 27415 25766 0 11:47:36 pts/17 0:00 grep sqlplus > user2 27408 26250 0 11:46:27 pts/70:00 sqlplus > tlcrsdev/tlcrsdev@crsprod @/home/dcook/TIPS/BDE/v1/tlcrs_load_tables/lo > > checking oracle process...for user1 > $ps -ef|grep 26671 > user1 26671 5991 0 10:36:35 pts/20 0:00 sqlplus sys > oracle 26672 26671 0 10:36:38 ?0:00 oracleTERAPROD > (DESCRIPTION=(LOCAL=YES)(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=beq))) > > checking oracle process .. for user2 (running script for shell program- > updating table) > $ps -ef|grep 27408 >dcook 27408 26250 0 11:46:27 pts/70:00 sqlplus > tlcrsdev/tlcrsdev@crsprod @/home/dcook/TIPS/BDE/v1/tlcrs_load_tables/lo > > My question is for user2 why I am not able to see the oracle process. > > can somebody tell me what is happening here? am i missing something. > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Datafile Migration Tool
At which version of Oracle did they remove this? It is NOT in any my directories. I checked: - 8.0.3 ORACLE_HOME/bin - 8.1.5 ORACLE_HOME/bin - 8.1.6 ORACLE_HOME/bin - 7.3.4 ORACLE_HOME/bin Thanks, Babette -Original Message- Gopalakrishnan Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Oracle'e block editor is called BBED and it will be in your $ORACLE_HOME/bin. DUL will not be in standard oracle instalations and it is a support tool. --- Babette Turner-Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like the block editor Oracle used to make available ? > BDE or something like that? > > DUL tool would be cool, too. > Especially, if it handled the odd-ball cases like LMTs and IOTs. > > I would only use DUL on production if it was total S.O.L. > and there was nothing left (besides READING won't make the muck > worse). > However, I would love to play with something like these on my sandbox > area. = Have a nice day !! Best Regards, K Gopalakrishnan, Bangalore, INDIA. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: K Gopalakrishnan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Locally Managed Tablespaces and autoextend
Thanks for investigating and sharing this with us - Babette -Original Message- Lewis Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 7:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Quick follow up to the bitmap sizing for larger files: I've quoted this 20-30,000 figure in my book as applying to both 'ordinary' LMTs and 'temporary' LMTs. However following our discussions, and a conversation with Ken Robinson from Oracle, I've run a couple of tests on 8.1.7 and the 2-bytes per extent that led to me quoting these figures applies only to temporary LMTs. In an ordinary LMT, one bit equates to one extent, so for an 8K block size, which gives you 6 blocks (64K - 2 blocks) in the first bitmap you could build ca. 380,000 extents in a single file before adding more bitmap at the end; for a very small file with its special one-block bitmap, you could still at about 63,500 extents without a new chunk of bitmap appearing. Jonathan Lewis Seminars on getting the best out of Oracle Last few places available for Sept 10th/11th See http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html | Earlier experiments indicated that for very | large files, with small extents, so that the | total extent count exceeded about 20,000 - | 30,000 (related to block size and therefore | number of blocks actually available from the | 64K for bitmap) - an extra 64K space would | be pre-allocated at the head of file. I did not | test for further extremes - if you have small | extents you should not have very large files. [snipped] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Datafile Migration Tool
Like the block editor Oracle used to make available ? BDE or something like that? DUL tool would be cool, too. Especially, if it handled the odd-ball cases like LMTs and IOTs. I would only use DUL on production if it was total S.O.L. and there was nothing left (besides READING won't make the muck worse). However, I would love to play with something like these on my sandbox area. Babette -Original Message- Gopalakrishnan Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 5:41 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Kirti, Frankly speaking , (as of now) I have to support the database and I don't think Oracle will support. But if you have luxury..you can always reorgaze the database and oracle HAS to suport the database. Initially I can give this tool for learning oracle and playing with oracle databases, I can pack this tool with a custom block editor where you can edit the databases, and an unloader tool (like DUL) which gives you the data in text format from the data files. But I don;t think Oracle will support any of these tools. :( --- "Deshpande, Kirti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gopal, > > So who do we call if there is a problem in the converted datafile > later down > the road and the database is down? The Tool Supplier or Oracle > Support? > > Thanks. = Have a nice day !! Best Regards, K Gopalakrishnan, Bangalore, INDIA. __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: K Gopalakrishnan INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Hot Backup.........paths.
Also, using FULL paths is often a GOOD thing.
We were keeping online all archivelogs that were created since
the beginning of the hot backup and deleting the others.
I did a cd $ARCHIVELOGDIR
and then did find . -mtime !-newer TIMEFILE -exec rm {} \;
(not exact syntax).
The cd failed.
The job was run via cron.
Guess where cron runs from ??
Yup, the users $HOME directory.
Deleted all ORACLE SOFTWARE, backup scripts, etc, etc, etc
I now use FULL paths for find ALWAYS!!!
- Babette
- Original Message -
To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 6:40 PM
If you're calling SQL from a shell script you could define variables within
shell.
Veronica Levin wrote:
>
> Hi listers,
> I'm testing a hot backup script that I want to run overnight, but the only
> way I can get it to work is using absolute paths.I don't like it that
> way. is there any chance I can use relative paths in this? I tried to
> include a change directory but it didn't work.
> thanks in advance for your input!
>
> SQL> alter tablespace TEMP begin backup;
> SQL> host /bin/tar -cvf /exp_imp/temp.tar /truck_temp/tempPROD1.dbf
> SQL> host compress -c /exp_imp/temp.tar>/exp_imp/TEMP_08_aug_01.Z
> SQL> alter tablespace TEMP end backup;
>
> f80 root /exp_imp -> tar -vtf temp.tar
> -rw-r- 203 11 419438592 Aug 13 13:30:22 2001 /truck_temp/tempPROD1.dbf
> f80 root /exp_imp ->
>
> Saludos,
> Veronica Levin Enriquez
> Administrador AIX
> Compañía Cervecera de Nicaragua
>
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: Veronica Levin
> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
> San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
>
> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
--
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
--
Author: Suzy Vordos
INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
--
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
--
Author: Babette Turner-Underwood
INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: computer history stories - Now: Age discrimination?
Speaking of beer. My husband had his IQ tested AFTER he discovered beer and whiskey. A few years later he gave up the stuff and his IQ went up remarkably. Perhaps IQ is just a measure of sobreity ? ;-) - Babette - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:22 AM > M...beer > I think your sort of bringing up that whole nature nurture issue, good lord > that's a tough one. I would tend to agree that a person could have a high > IQ, or a high ability to learn, but if they are not in an environment that > promotes learning then they may not fullfill their abilities. On the other > hand, someone in an environement that doesn't promote learning could still > take upon themselves to educate themselves. > (and don't knock any spelling errors, I am well aware of the fact that I > can't spell!) > KK > > -Original Message- > Walt > Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:00 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I thought IQ was related to the culture one grows up in, not something > you're born with. > > In other words, if you're white and raised in a middle/upper-class > environment your chance at doing well on an IQ test are orders of magnitude > greater than for other people. > > I, of course, did very well on an IQ test when I was a teenager. Then I > discovered beer and, well, things have gone, um, a bit downhill since then. > > --Walt Weaver > Bozeman, Montana, USA > > -Original Message- > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 1:49 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Yes, people are "born" with IQ, not smarts. > > I also believe you can alter your IQ slightly. > > From what I understand (which may be wrong) is IQ is simply how many gallon > tank you were blessed with. > It does not measure how much you filled this tank. > > "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way > when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes." > > Christopher R. Spence OCP MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA > Oracle DBA > Phone: (978) 322-5744 > Fax:(707) 885-2275 > > Fuelspot > 73 Princeton Street > North, Chelmsford 01863 > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Weaver, Walt > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Kevin Kostyszyn > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Exploding the Myths paper
My apologies to the entire list for these last two messages I meant to send them to Rachel personally and I forgot that since the listserv changed a while ago I cannot hit "reply" (Need to open e-mail, right click properties in the title and get the address) go ahead and flame me all you want, I deserve it ... having one of those totally STUPID days ... Babette - Original Message - To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:11 PM > Doh! Never mind. I just discovered how to use the scroll bar on my browser > ;-) > (I was looking under one of the main all day events and not under the > general section) > > - Babette > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Exploding the Myths paper
Doh! Never mind. I just discovered how to use the scroll bar on my browser ;-) (I was looking under one of the main all day events and not under the general section) - Babette -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: completely off-topic question...
Or Happy To Help ... Also ... YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (this took me FOREVER to guess) LOL - laughing out loud RTM - read the manual RTFM - read the Fine manual IMHO - in my humble opinion OR in my honest opinion OT - Off topic Babette - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:02 AM > hope this helps > > hth > > yosi > > > Michael wrote: > > > ...which means it's probably going to start a great big thread :) I > > see a lot of emails with HTH on them, seemingly some sort of way to > > say "thankyou" or something... as they're always at the end of > > somebodies message right before they sign off their name.. I have > > pondered, and pondered as to what HTH could stand for, could somebody > > be so kind as to fill me in ? Thanks,Michael. > > -- > Thanks, > > Yosi > > > - > Yosi Greenfield > Oracle Certified DBA > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Yosi Greenfield > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Exploding the Myths paper
Hey Rachel, long time, no chat Hope things worked out well for you and whoever at IOUG (the gossip in me always want to know more ;-) Would have sat next to you in Anita's presentation but you sat in the FRONT row, and I was late :-( I also had to find Peter Smith as I had a problem with my air reservation and it looked like he might need to drive me and miss the closing session (I was able to get a shuttle). This paper sounded really intriuging and I wanted to check it out. I looked under www.nyoug.org but could not find it under "Presentations From Various Allstars". Great user site by the way! (I think you are involved on the executive right?) I take it your meetings are quarterly ? Would love to present some time but cannot afford the travel to New York :-( . that I am Waaay too busy with my job doing remote DBA work ... I barely have time to even read the list serves, let along respond to any of them I am only 10 months behind ... Take care Babette [EMAIL PROTECTED] (best one to use) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 8:15 PM > Okay, I've been told that the paper and slides for my presentation Exploding > the Myths is now up on the NYOUG site > > www.nyoug.org > > Rachel > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Rachel Carmichael > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Babette Turner-Underwood INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
CURSOR_SHARING=FORCE
We have noticed an interesting side "effect" of using CURSOR_SHARING=force.When using SQL (simple INSERT, UPDATE, SELECT...), and you check v$SQLAREAyou see that yes, Oracle indeed replaced hard-coded values with bindvariablesTRY: SELECT DEPTNO, LOC from DEPT where LOC='Boston';select sql_text from v$sqlarea where sql_text like 'SELECT DEPTNO';BUT this does not work for parameters to procedures or functions.TRY:create procedure upd_dept ( in_deptno number, in_loc varchar2) begin update dept set loc = in_loc;end;exec upd_dept ( 20, 'BOSTON');select sql_text from v$sqlarea where sql_text like '%upd_dept%';Thus we need to change calling our table APIs from :upd_dept( 20, 'BOSTON');todefine my_deptno := 20;define my_location := 'BOSTON';upd_dept( :my_deptno, :my_location);To use bind variables. Thus making extensive use of table APIs will havemultiple copiesof SQL in shared pool UNLESS done this way and CURSOR_SHARING has no effect.According to Oracle, it is how it is supposed to work, but we were notexpecting the behaviour.Just another one of those pleasant surprises from Oracle :-)Babette[EMAIL PROTECTED]
