Oracle on Linux
Are many people running Oracle on Linux? I havent seen it anywhere myself. If so what flavors? Is there much difference between administering on Say Redhat vs. Solaris? I know 'oracle' itself is the same, but any of the OS-Database interaction different? Im thinking about throwing Redhat on PC at home and playing around. Ill use a different flavor it really matters. Ive develped on HP-Unix and Solaris at work before, but never Linux. How different is the Linux kernel? Does it really matter to a DBA?
Re: Oracle on Linux
I'm running Oracle on Linux both at home and in the office. I work for Wang Trading, a small brokerage firm from Norwalk, CT. I cannot get into the specifics, but Oracle is used primarily for data warehousing purposes. On 2003.09.14 13:04, Ryan wrote: Are many people running Oracle on Linux? I havent seen it anywhere myself. If so what flavors? Is there much difference between administering on Say Redhat vs. Solaris? I know 'oracle' itself is the same, but any of the OS-Database interaction different? Im thinking about throwing Redhat on PC at home and playing around. Ill use a different flavor it really matters. Ive develped on HP-Unix and Solaris at work before, but never Linux. How different is the Linux kernel? Does it really matter to a DBA? -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
ORACLE CLIENTon linux
Hi, Does anyone know oracle client(8.1.6) available on linux(Red hat EE) ? If not can I run l higher client with old version of database(oracle 8.1.6)? thx -Seema _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: ORACLE CLIENTon linux
Hi! Does anyone know oracle client(8.1.6) available on linux(Red hat EE) ? Yes - http://otn.oracle.com If not can I run l higher client with old version of database(oracle 8.1.6)? thx Yes. Tanel. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: ORACLE CLIENTon linux
Yes. You can use newer clients with the older RDBMS. on 8/13/03 11:04 AM, Seema Singh at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Does anyone know oracle client(8.1.6) available on linux(Red hat EE) ? If not can I run l higher client with old version of database(oracle 8.1.6)? thx -Seema _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: ORACLE CLIENTon linux
I run 9.2 client from SuSE 8.2 and connect to all my db's (8.0.6.0.0 - 9.2.0.3.0). It works just fine. Rodd On Wednesday 13 August 2003 13:14, Goulet, Dick wrote: Seema, I've a copy of Oracle 9.2 for HP, Linux, and Windoes that works fine all the way back to 7.2, our ADP server(don't ask). Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Does anyone know oracle client(8.1.6) available on linux(Red hat EE) ? If not can I run l higher client with old version of database(oracle 8.1.6)? thx -Seema _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Rodd Holman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rodd Holman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: ORACLE CLIENTon linux
Seema, I've a copy of Oracle 9.2 for HP, Linux, and Windoes that works fine all the way back to 7.2, our ADP server(don't ask). Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi, Does anyone know oracle client(8.1.6) available on linux(Red hat EE) ? If not can I run l higher client with old version of database(oracle 8.1.6)? thx -Seema _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Seema Singh INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on linux vs. on windows
Title: Message When I eventually found the source article http://www.interealm.com/technotes/roby/pentmark.html, it seemed to me that there were some problems with it. 1. It said the two OS and databases were 'similarly' configured but didn't show what the configuration was. 2. It states that Windows 2000 does not support mount points and so OFA cannot be used. This is incorrect. 3. I waasn't sure how much weight as given to Linux as a Unix alike system being similar to Unix systems. This seems to be a daft comparison. 4. it wasn't clear how the conclusions (use Linux where you don't use clustering - use windows if you don't need to scale) came from the tests. Otherwise it seemed a fair comparison of apples to oranges :( Niall -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Boivin, Patrice JSent: 24 July 2003 13:34To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle on linux vs. on windows I found this item on the 'net this morning: http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=5475 Patrice.
Oracle on linux vs. on windows
Title: Extproc setup Q? I found this item on the 'net this morning: http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=5475 Patrice.
Re: Oracle on linux vs. on windows
Title: Extproc setup Q? Heh-heh, Burleson talking about running Oracle on WINE and IBM dropping AIX.. What a joke... Tanel. - Original Message - From: Boivin, Patrice J To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Oracle on linux vs. on windows I found this item on the 'net this morning: http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=5475 Patrice.
Re: Oracle on linux vs. on windows
Tanel, I read it differently. Don talked about the different os that you could run and when talking about WINE it was in reference to the client os being Linux and being able to run the standard office packages that Windows provides. I found no reference to running Oracle on WINE. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/03 09:34AM Extproc setup Q?Heh-heh, Burleson talking about running Oracle on WINE and IBM dropping AIX.. What a joke... Tanel. - Original Message - From: Boivin, Patrice J To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Oracle on linux vs. on windows I found this item on the 'net this morning: http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=5475 Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on linux vs. on windows
In the middle of the article: Using WINE, you can run Oracle for Windows, using Linux as the underlying operating system I think Burleson mixed up Wine with WMWare, WINE isn't even able to run notepad correctly, not to talk about complex multithreaded app like Oracle... Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:24 PM Tanel, I read it differently. Don talked about the different os that you could run and when talking about WINE it was in reference to the client os being Linux and being able to run the standard office packages that Windows provides. I found no reference to running Oracle on WINE. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/24/03 09:34AM Extproc setup Q?Heh-heh, Burleson talking about running Oracle on WINE and IBM dropping AIX.. What a joke... Tanel. - Original Message - From: Boivin, Patrice J To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: Oracle on linux vs. on windows I found this item on the 'net this morning: http://rootprompt.org/article.php3?article=5475 Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Tanel Poder INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on linux vs. on windows
There is a marketing term in the USA (at least) called bait and switch. Yeah, sure! We have Linux. Here, take a look at our Linux. But, while you are doing that, you might as well look at AIX. -Original Message- Heh-heh, Burleson talking about running Oracle on WINE and IBM dropping AIX.. What a joke... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephen Lee INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: DBA/Programmer GUI tool for Oracle in Linux
Title: RE: DBA/Programmer GUI tool for Oracle in Linux TORA can't beat it. most value for money ... search on smartforge.net Raj -Original Message- From: Reuben D. Budiardja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:54 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: DBA/Programmer GUI tool for Oracle in Linux Hello, I am rather new on using oracle in linux. I have some more experience with just programming web application with oracle as the backend database, but not so much with the administration of it. So, I am wondering what are some of the tool that you use for doing simple admin and programming tool. Nothing fancy, just probably a gui tool that can do Add/Remove user + password, create/drop table/column, alter table/column, and inserting data into table. I've seen TOAD before, but never really used it. But I think it's only run in MS Windows. So something similar to TOAD that runs in linux would be sufficient. I've tried TOra, it can do more stuff than I can understand right now, but it lacks basic things like dropping and creating table, altering table, etc. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance Reuben D. Budiardja -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Reuben D. Budiardja INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). *This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please immediately notify corporate MIS at (860) 766-2000 and delete this e-mail message from your computer, Thank you.*1
Antw: DBA/Programmer GUI tool for Oracle in Linux
Hi there! I am using the Oracle Enterprise Manager. Just download Oracle for Linux and install only the whole client part inlcuding OEM. It has the whole functionality even fro new feature and is included in your server license if you are not using enhanced version. Sven -- Sven Jensen Unix/Oracle Administration Talkline GmbH Co. KG E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone : +49-4121-41-2458 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19.07.03 17:54:24 Hello, I am rather new on using oracle in linux. I have some more experience with just programming web application with oracle as the backend database, but not so much with the administration of it. So, I am wondering what are some of the tool that you use for doing simple admin and programming tool. Nothing fancy, just probably a gui tool that can do Add/Remove user + password, create/drop table/column, alter table/column, and inserting data into table. I've seen TOAD before, but never really used it. But I think it's only run in MS Windows. So something similar to TOAD that runs in linux would be sufficient. I've tried TOra, it can do more stuff than I can understand right now, but it lacks basic things like dropping and creating table, altering table, etc. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in Advance Reuben D. Budiardja -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Reuben D. Budiardja INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jensen Sven INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle on Linux
OK, I am about to venture into the world of Red Hat Linuxand then install Oracle on it. I have a question re the Linux install options. Do I need to do a Server installation (as opposed to a Personal Desktop installation or a Workstation installation), to be able to later install Oracle 9? John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux
Oh boy, you are going to have the time of your life. Which version of RH are you about to install? Is it 8.0, 9 or AS? Workstation installation should be fine. On 2003.06.23 06:54, John Dunn wrote: OK, I am about to venture into the world of Red Hat Linuxand then install Oracle on it. I have a question re the Linux install options. Do I need to do a Server installation (as opposed to a Personal Desktop installation or a Workstation installation), to be able to later install Oracle 9? John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux
Hi, I just installed RH9 and Oracle 9i R2 on my home PC and it installs fine if you follow the instructions in the following URL http://codah.net/install-oracle9iR2-on-redhat9.html (was my first venture into RH also) I choose the server version. Mind you Oracle is only certified on RH AS/ES 2.1 Jack -Original Message- Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 12:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OK, I am about to venture into the world of Red Hat Linuxand then install Oracle on it. I have a question re the Linux install options. Do I need to do a Server installation (as opposed to a Personal Desktop installation or a Workstation installation), to be able to later install Oracle 9? John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jack van Zanen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux
I haven't found a similar white paper yet but I found one titled: Tips: Instal configure Red Hat Linux Advanced server 2.1 for Oracle9IAS 9.0.2 and above It lists the recommended steps to configure the server and states the package group to use. I lists the :Advanced Server option to be used.It might be the same recommendation for the database but I haven't found a similar paper yet. Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/23/03 08:10AM Oh boy, you are going to have the time of your life. Which version of RH are you about to install? Is it 8.0, 9 or AS? Workstation installation should be fine. On 2003.06.23 06:54, John Dunn wrote: OK, I am about to venture into the world of Red Hat Linuxand then install Oracle on it. I have a question re the Linux install options. Do I need to do a Server installation (as opposed to a Personal Desktop installation or a Workstation installation), to be able to later install Oracle 9? John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ron Rogers INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux
Redhat 9.0 -Original Message- Sent: 23 June 2003 13:11 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Oh boy, you are going to have the time of your life. Which version of RH are you about to install? Is it 8.0, 9 or AS? Workstation installation should be fine. On 2003.06.23 06:54, John Dunn wrote: OK, I am about to venture into the world of Red Hat Linuxand then install Oracle on it. I have a question re the Linux install options. Do I need to do a Server installation (as opposed to a Personal Desktop installation or a Workstation installation), to be able to later install Oracle 9? John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Mladen Gogala INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle on Linux on Sparc hardware
One of the SAs here has asked my to find out if Oracle is supported on Linix on Sparc hardware. He is specifically interested in 9i versions. With him standing over my shoulder, I looked on Metalink, and could not find anything that indicates this specific a combination. Has anyone tried this or know of anyone who has. And is is plausible? Terry Ball, DBA Birch Telecom Work: 816-300-1335 FAX: 816-300-1800 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Ball, Terry INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
IBM is loudly touting how much money they will be spending on Linux. Has anyone seen any sales statistics for DB2 on non-IBM platforms? I feel that IBM has a challenge to convince buyers to consider DB2 on Linux. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dennis, Humourously ... at least in Oz, the number one Unix platform for DB2 is Solaris. IBM will probably turn this around ... they are being quite clever with the 5L releases of AIX, by enabling compatibility with both AIX and Linux binaries. So they feed you a little Linux box, wait for you to decide you need something bigger, ease you on to an AIX 5L box still running your linux code (but now you're paying AIX licencing), and then roll in with the usual IBM steamroller. That said, I've just had a free 3-day training course from them, so nothing like biting the hand that feeds, so to speak :-) Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Grant Allen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
Jacques - We often don't realize that at end-user sites we look at the immediate computer marketplace. Any vendor that did that would be out of business in a couple of years. A vendor, like Oracle, must predict where the the market will be in a couple of years. About two years ago the META Group predicted that in about 5 years most servers sold would be running one of three operating systems: 1. Windows 2. Linux 3. Solaris As near as I can tell, they are on the mark. The other Unix vendors are showing signs of shifting to Linux. Obviously they won't announce that directly since they need to keep selling computers today. From Oracle's point of view, they don't care who is the winner, just that Oracle is the leading database, and not something like MySQL. Remember how Unix emerged as the leading O.S. Since ATT couldn't sell computers (for awhile due to antitrust restrictions), they gave source code copies to colleges. New C.S. majors learned Unix inside out while in college. I understand today that those people are learning Linux internals in college. Obviously Microsoft is at a disadvantage since they don't want to provide source code, although I heard Microsoft has an initiative to provide limited source code to a college. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For those not interested in marketing news, I would suggest skipping this message. From a Computerworld article http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79730,00. html http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79730,00 .html Oracle ups Linux efforts with ISV program By James Niccolai, IDG News Service MARCH 26, 2003 Oracle Corp. is shelling out US$150 million to encourage its software partners to develop for Linux (two US$ for every US$ spent be the vendor.) Some other interesting tidbits from the article: Separately, engineers at Oracle are working on the Linux kernel, the code at the heart of all Linux distributions, to make it more suitable for Oracle's software. The company plans to submit its work to Linus Torvalds, who oversees changes made to the Linux kernel, with the hope its work will be incorporated ... Among those efforts ... increase the amount of physical memory that can be addressed by 32-bit Intel servers running Linux. Oracle also hopes that a version of the clustered file system that it released for Linux customers last year will become part of the kernel. Why would Oracle give money to people to develop on Linux? Is it only to help bring down Microsoft? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
It reminds me a report (Gartner, Meta, ?) I've read in 1997 saying that after year 2000 there should be only 3 players in the rdbms market : Oracle because it has the biggest market share, IBM because it's IBM and Microsoft because Bill was throwing a lot of $$$ to develop Sql Server. In 2003, Ingres, Sybase and Informix have about a 5% marketshare all together. What's for the future ? Stephane -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jacques - We often don't realize that at end-user sites we look at the immediate computer marketplace. Any vendor that did that would be out of business in a couple of years. A vendor, like Oracle, must predict where the the market will be in a couple of years. About two years ago the META Group predicted that in about 5 years most servers sold would be running one of three operating systems: 1. Windows 2. Linux 3. Solaris As near as I can tell, they are on the mark. The other Unix vendors are showing signs of shifting to Linux. Obviously they won't announce that directly since they need to keep selling computers today. From Oracle's point of view, they don't care who is the winner, just that Oracle is the leading database, and not something like MySQL. Remember how Unix emerged as the leading O.S. Since ATT couldn't sell computers (for awhile due to antitrust restrictions), they gave source code copies to colleges. New C.S. majors learned Unix inside out while in college. I understand today that those people are learning Linux internals in college. Obviously Microsoft is at a disadvantage since they don't want to provide source code, although I heard Microsoft has an initiative to provide limited source code to a college. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For those not interested in marketing news, I would suggest skipping this message. From a Computerworld article http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79730,00. html http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79730,00 .html Oracle ups Linux efforts with ISV program By James Niccolai, IDG News Service MARCH 26, 2003 Oracle Corp. is shelling out US$150 million to encourage its software partners to develop for Linux (two US$ for every US$ spent be the vendor.) Some other interesting tidbits from the article: Separately, engineers at Oracle are working on the Linux kernel, the code at the heart of all Linux distributions, to make it more suitable for Oracle's software. The company plans to submit its work to Linus Torvalds, who oversees changes made to the Linux kernel, with the hope its work will be incorporated ... Among those efforts ... increase the amount of physical memory that can be addressed by 32-bit Intel servers running Linux. Oracle also hopes that a version of the clustered file system that it released for Linux customers last year will become part of the kernel. Why would Oracle give money to people to develop on Linux? Is it only to help bring down Microsoft? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Paquette INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
Lemme quote the infamous Michael Moore's book Stupid White Men: In 1919, twenty years after the invention of the automobile, there were 108 automobile manufacturers in the UnitedStates. Ten years later the number had whittled down to the Big 44 U.S. auto companies. By the end of the fifties it had dropped to 8, and today we have a grand total of 2-1/2 U.S. car manufacturers. Do you see the trend? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It reminds me a report (Gartner, Meta, ?) I've read in 1997 saying that after year 2000 there should be only 3 players in the rdbms market : Oracle because it has the biggest market share, IBM because it's IBM and Microsoft because Bill was throwing a lot of $$$ to develop Sql Server. In 2003, Ingres, Sybase and Informix have about a 5% marketshare all together. What's for the future ? Stephane -Original Message- WILLIAMS Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Jacques - We often don't realize that at end-user sites we look at the immediate computer marketplace. Any vendor that did that would be out of business in a couple of years. A vendor, like Oracle, must predict where the the market will be in a couple of years. About two years ago the META Group predicted that in about 5 years most servers sold would be running one of three operating systems: 1. Windows 2. Linux 3. Solaris As near as I can tell, they are on the mark. The other Unix vendors are showing signs of shifting to Linux. Obviously they won't announce that directly since they need to keep selling computers today. From Oracle's point of view, they don't care who is the winner, just that Oracle is the leading database, and not something like MySQL. Remember how Unix emerged as the leading O.S. Since ATT couldn't sell computers (for awhile due to antitrust restrictions), they gave source code copies to colleges. New C.S. majors learned Unix inside out while in college. I understand today that those people are learning Linux internals in college. Obviously Microsoft is at a disadvantage since they don't want to provide source code, although I heard Microsoft has an initiative to provide limited source code to a college. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For those not interested in marketing news, I would suggest skipping this message. From a Computerworld article http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79730,00. html http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79730,00 .html Oracle ups Linux efforts with ISV program By James Niccolai, IDG News Service MARCH 26, 2003 Oracle Corp. is shelling out US$150 million to encourage its software partners to develop for Linux (two US$ for every US$ spent be the vendor.) Some other interesting tidbits from the article: Separately, engineers at Oracle are working on the Linux kernel, the code at the heart of all Linux distributions, to make it more suitable for Oracle's software. The company plans to submit its work to Linus Torvalds, who oversees changes made to the Linux kernel, with the hope its work will be incorporated ... Among those efforts ... increase the amount of physical memory that can be addressed by 32-bit Intel servers running Linux. Oracle also hopes that a version of the clustered file system that it released for Linux customers last year will become part of the kernel. Why would Oracle give money to people to develop on Linux? Is it only to help bring down Microsoft? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Paquette INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
Actually, I don't think there are ANY automobile manufacturers... There are only assemblers because most of the parts are made by someone else. It's too complicated for any single company. Specialization is the result of increased complexity. Assembling the component output of others into a working unit is more akin to opensource. That's the trend I WANT to see. It's interesting that Oracle and IBM are delving into opensource but Microsoft is not. It's a battle of titanic proportion. All hail the extinction of monoliths and other despots and dictators. Long live freedom and democracy. Oh, but what about Intel? Sigh... When given a choice, choose wisely. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lemme quote the infamous Michael Moore's book Stupid White Men: In 1919, twenty years after the invention of the automobile, there were 108 automobile manufacturers in the UnitedStates. Ten years later the number had whittled down to the Big 44 U.S. auto companies. By the end of the fifties it had dropped to 8, and today we have a grand total of 2-1/2 U.S. car manufacturers. Do you see the trend? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 10:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It reminds me a report (Gartner, Meta, ?) I've read in 1997 saying that after year 2000 there should be only 3 players in the rdbms market : Oracle because it has the biggest market share, IBM because it's IBM and Microsoft because Bill was throwing a lot of $$$ to develop Sql Server. In 2003, Ingres, Sybase and Informix have about a 5% marketshare all together. What's for the future ? Stephane -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
Title: RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers So your interpretation would be: Oracle is not so much pushing Linux at the expense of Microsoft, but ensuring their dominance in the emerging Linux database market. Though of course a strong Linux market will also be a market in which presumably Microsoft will not try to compete with Oracle, unless Microsoft decides to port SQL Server to Linux. -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Jacques - We often don't realize that at end-user sites we look at the immediate computer marketplace. Any vendor that did that would be out of business in a couple of years. A vendor, like Oracle, must predict where the the market will be in a couple of years. About two years ago the META Group predicted that in about 5 years most servers sold would be running one of three operating systems: 1. Windows 2. Linux 3. Solaris As near as I can tell, they are on the mark. The other Unix vendors are showing signs of shifting to Linux. Obviously they won't announce that directly since they need to keep selling computers today. From Oracle's point of view, they don't care who is the winner, just that Oracle is the leading database, and not something like MySQL. ...
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
Title: RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers Interesting... whatever happened to HP/UX? Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services | Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Jacques Kilchoer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:14 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers So your interpretation would be: Oracle is not so much pushing Linux at the expense of Microsoft, but ensuring their dominance in the emerging Linux database market. Though of course a strong Linux market will also be a market in which presumably Microsoft will not try to compete with Oracle, unless Microsoft decides to port SQL Server to Linux. -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Jacques - We often don't realize that at end-user sites we look at the immediate computer marketplace. Any vendor that did that would be out of business in a couple of years. A vendor, like Oracle, must predict where the the market will be in a couple of years. About two years ago the META Group predicted that in about 5 years most servers sold would be running one of three operating systems: 1. Windows 2. Linux 3. Solaris As near as I can tell, they are on the mark. The other Unix vendors are showing signs of shifting to Linux. Obviously they won't announce that directly since they need to keep selling computers today. From Oracle's point of view, they don't care who is the winner, just that Oracle is the leading database, and not something like MySQL. ...
Re: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
6. Oracle has a strong history of picking tomorrow's platforms. My recollection is that they jumped on the Unix bandwagon pretty early. Correction : Oracle has a strong history of following closely in IBM's steps. My own recollection is that till 1988 Oracle still was very closely associated to VMS - even if, granted, quite a number of Unix ports had been available for a number of years. But I think they began to take Unix seriously with the advent of AIX. Before, Unix (which one? Never worked properly on Ultrix) was on the same footing as Apollo's Domain or DataGeneral's forgot-the-name or (let's be esoterik) Norsk Data's Sintran III. There has been a time when the challenge was to run on as many platforms as possible. Which doesn't contradict your arguments, quite the contrary. -- Regards, Stephane Faroult Oriole Software -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Stephane Faroult INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
Patrice Brings up an interesting issue. Last info I had, HP wasn't funding a new generation of chips. Instead they seemed to be betting on the Intel Itanium (along with many other vendors). Simple math says that Intel has a lot more money to fund chip development than the Unix vendors, and each new generation of chips requires a magnitude greater investment. Presumably they could port HP/UX to Itanium, but I believe Sun with Solaris is the only firm holdout against Linux. Now, the bigger question, in my mind, is what happened to the Itanium and where does that leave vendors like HP/UX? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 1:49 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Interesting... whatever happened to HP/UX? Patrice Boivin Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) Systems Admin Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes Technology Services| Services technologiques Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So your interpretation would be: Oracle is not so much pushing Linux at the expense of Microsoft, but ensuring their dominance in the emerging Linux database market. Though of course a strong Linux market will also be a market in which presumably Microsoft will not try to compete with Oracle, unless Microsoft decides to port SQL Server to Linux. -Original Message- From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Jacques - We often don't realize that at end-user sites we look at the immediate computer marketplace. Any vendor that did that would be out of business in a couple of years. A vendor, like Oracle, must predict where the the market will be in a couple of years. About two years ago the META Group predicted that in about 5 years most servers sold would be running one of three operating systems: 1. Windows 2. Linux 3. Solaris As near as I can tell, they are on the mark. The other Unix vendors are showing signs of shifting to Linux. Obviously they won't announce that directly since they need to keep selling computers today. From Oracle's point of view, they don't care who is the winner, just that Oracle is the leading database, and not something like MySQL. ... -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Oracle encouraging Linux software developers
Title: Oracle encouraging Linux software developers For those not interested in marketing news, I would suggest skipping this message. From a Computerworld article http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/os/linux/story/0,10801,79730,00.html Oracle ups Linux efforts with ISV program By James Niccolai, IDG News Service MARCH 26, 2003 Oracle Corp. is shelling out US$150 million to encourage its software partners to develop for Linux (two US$ for every US$ spent be the vendor.) Some other interesting tidbits from the article: Separately, engineers at Oracle are working on the Linux kernel, the code at the heart of all Linux distributions, to make it more suitable for Oracle's software. The company plans to submit its work to Linus Torvalds, who oversees changes made to the Linux kernel, with the hope its work will be incorporated ... Among those efforts ... increase the amount of physical memory that can be addressed by 32-bit Intel servers running Linux. Oracle also hopes that a version of the clustered file system that it released for Linux customers last year will become part of the kernel. Why would Oracle give money to people to develop on Linux? Is it only to help bring down Microsoft?
Oracle on Linux Cluster ?
Is it Certified ? For Setup Performance Tuning - Any Links , Docs ? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: VIVEK_SHARMA INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse
On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 10:38:18PM -0800, Gogala, Mladen wrote: No, it's not certified, but I know the guy who successfully installed 9.2 on the cooker. Certificates are of limited value in the Linux world. Production support might be of interest, someday, in the linux world. I'd hate to explain to customers that I won't be bringing a service up because I decided to run on an unsupported platform. You will need to be getting this in the linux world. A product can be certified and yet you may suffer when installing. We're still living in the early days of linux. Later on, RH will become another Microsoft and we'll have 2 Behemoth companies instead of one. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 03:04:03PM -0800, ltiu wrote: Mandrake 8.1/8.2 works really well with Oracle 9i Release 2. but is not certified by Oracle. It's RH compatible, meaning applications are numerous but it does not have the faulty compiler and it's still free unlike Suse. Downloads are easy to get at as well. A lot easier than RH and Suse. ltiu Quoting Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I switched from RH 6.2 to SuSE 7.2 (now I'm running 8.0) and here are my impressions: 1) RH was using a proprietary compiler (gcc 2.96) and libraries were incompatible with many independent pieces of software. In particular, Oracle installation was a genuine nightmare. No way I'm going back to RH while they're using that @#$! compiler. 2) Availability of software for SuSE is very poor. Nothing on the rpmfind.net, their website is lousy and they are working very hard to make it even worse. In particular, they used to have a subdirectory called full-names where one could find all rpm packages that were officially available for a given release. That was far too easy, so they removed that directory and replaced it with the file INDEX.gz which you are supposed to download, zgrep for the given package and then download it from it's location. 3) SuSE technical support is bad and less then useless. RH wasn't a shining example of customer service either, but SuSE really shows you what the word untermensch really means. 4) SuSE kernel is tainted and is not reporting version the way it's supposed to. That confuses the heck out of the utilities like OSS sound drivers. When I asked SuSE for help they told me to use ALSA (I've paid for OSS and with ALSA my mic was dead as dodo). When further pressed, they told me that kernel relinking is for gurus only and to stay away from that nasty stuff. Eventually, I downloaded a standard kernel, linked it to fit my HW, installed OSS and it worked perfectly. SuSE kernel has completely unexpected dependencies and cannot be compiled easily without the help from SuSE. The latter is impossible to get. 5) Software is installed in curious places (xmms is installed under /usr/X11 so that you cannot use plugin rpms) and is always at least a version behind. Ximian GNOME doesn't work quite well and one needs an expert to do so, otherwise, only KDE is left. 6) SuSE has memory test as one of the booting options which was an extremely convenient thing when I was installing additional memory and my DIMM was bad. 7) The latest RH betas are done with gcc 3.1 which is an official gcc release. As soon as that hits production, I'm switching back to RH, especially now when RH and Oracle Corp. resolved their differences. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone: (203) 459-6855 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux . Red Hat vs. Suse -- Christopher Royce [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/22/02 08:53:32 -0800 Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position There isn't one. There are tradeoffs between the two distro's. Most of it comes down to which one you are more comfortable with or which one does more things (including the installation) that you cannot fathom. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
RE: Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse
No, it's not certified, but I know the guy who successfully installed 9.2 on the cooker. Certificates are of limited value in the Linux world. A product can be certified and yet you may suffer when installing. We're still living in the early days of linux. Later on, RH will become another Microsoft and we'll have 2 Behemoth companies instead of one. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:23 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 03:04:03PM -0800, ltiu wrote: Mandrake 8.1/8.2 works really well with Oracle 9i Release 2. but is not certified by Oracle. It's RH compatible, meaning applications are numerous but it does not have the faulty compiler and it's still free unlike Suse. Downloads are easy to get at as well. A lot easier than RH and Suse. ltiu Quoting Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I switched from RH 6.2 to SuSE 7.2 (now I'm running 8.0) and here are my impressions: 1) RH was using a proprietary compiler (gcc 2.96) and libraries were incompatible with many independent pieces of software. In particular, Oracle installation was a genuine nightmare. No way I'm going back to RH while they're using that @#$! compiler. 2) Availability of software for SuSE is very poor. Nothing on the rpmfind.net, their website is lousy and they are working very hard to make it even worse. In particular, they used to have a subdirectory called full-names where one could find all rpm packages that were officially available for a given release. That was far too easy, so they removed that directory and replaced it with the file INDEX.gz which you are supposed to download, zgrep for the given package and then download it from it's location. 3) SuSE technical support is bad and less then useless. RH wasn't a shining example of customer service either, but SuSE really shows you what the word untermensch really means. 4) SuSE kernel is tainted and is not reporting version the way it's supposed to. That confuses the heck out of the utilities like OSS sound drivers. When I asked SuSE for help they told me to use ALSA (I've paid for OSS and with ALSA my mic was dead as dodo). When further pressed, they told me that kernel relinking is for gurus only and to stay away from that nasty stuff. Eventually, I downloaded a standard kernel, linked it to fit my HW, installed OSS and it worked perfectly. SuSE kernel has completely unexpected dependencies and cannot be compiled easily without the help from SuSE. The latter is impossible to get. 5) Software is installed in curious places (xmms is installed under /usr/X11 so that you cannot use plugin rpms) and is always at least a version behind. Ximian GNOME doesn't work quite well and one needs an expert to do so, otherwise, only KDE is left. 6) SuSE has memory test as one of the booting options which was an extremely convenient thing when I was installing additional memory and my DIMM was bad. 7) The latest RH betas are done with gcc 3.1 which is an official gcc release. As soon as that hits production, I'm switching back to RH, especially now when RH and Oracle Corp. resolved their differences. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone: (203) 459-6855 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux . Red Hat vs. Suse -- Christopher Royce [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/22/02 08:53:32 -0800 Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position There isn't one. There are tradeoffs between the two distro's. Most of it comes down to which one you are more comfortable with or which one does more things (including the installation) that you cannot fathom. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse
Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position regarding the question of 'which is the preferred distribution of Linux vis-Ã -vis Oracle'. I have inherited Suse Oracle Implementations which are Oracle Corp. certified and have had little or no problems. There are other Red Hat (non-Oracle) servers in the 'group' we are looking to 'standardize' on one distribution. I am pro Suse (as I have Oracle databases currently on Suse) whereas there are other application owners that seem to be pro Red Hat, obviously they are running Red Hat. My understanding is that the situation evolved from 'temporary evaluation' implementations which somehow (gosh ... wonder how that happened ?) are now in 'production'. If the general consensus is that 'it is a moot point' I will comply with the majority. I purposely know not which distribution is the most widely deployed. However, someone will have to migrate to achieve a standard platform. Any further comments Please ! All are welcomed . objective, subjective, inductive, deductive, rational, irrational, emotional and experiential. TIA CJR -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Royce INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse
-- Christopher Royce [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/22/02 08:53:32 -0800 Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position There isn't one. There are tradeoffs between the two distro's. Most of it comes down to which one you are more comfortable with or which one does more things (including the installation) that you cannot fathom. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse
Well, I switched from RH 6.2 to SuSE 7.2 (now I'm running 8.0) and here are my impressions: 1) RH was using a proprietary compiler (gcc 2.96) and libraries were incompatible with many independent pieces of software. In particular, Oracle installation was a genuine nightmare. No way I'm going back to RH while they're using that @#$! compiler. 2) Availability of software for SuSE is very poor. Nothing on the rpmfind.net, their website is lousy and they are working very hard to make it even worse. In particular, they used to have a subdirectory called full-names where one could find all rpm packages that were officially available for a given release. That was far too easy, so they removed that directory and replaced it with the file INDEX.gz which you are supposed to download, zgrep for the given package and then download it from it's location. 3) SuSE technical support is bad and less then useless. RH wasn't a shining example of customer service either, but SuSE really shows you what the word untermensch really means. 4) SuSE kernel is tainted and is not reporting version the way it's supposed to. That confuses the heck out of the utilities like OSS sound drivers. When I asked SuSE for help they told me to use ALSA (I've paid for OSS and with ALSA my mic was dead as dodo). When further pressed, they told me that kernel relinking is for gurus only and to stay away from that nasty stuff. Eventually, I downloaded a standard kernel, linked it to fit my HW, installed OSS and it worked perfectly. SuSE kernel has completely unexpected dependencies and cannot be compiled easily without the help from SuSE. The latter is impossible to get. 5) Software is installed in curious places (xmms is installed under /usr/X11 so that you cannot use plugin rpms) and is always at least a version behind. Ximian GNOME doesn't work quite well and one needs an expert to do so, otherwise, only KDE is left. 6) SuSE has memory test as one of the booting options which was an extremely convenient thing when I was installing additional memory and my DIMM was bad. 7) The latest RH betas are done with gcc 3.1 which is an official gcc release. As soon as that hits production, I'm switching back to RH, especially now when RH and Oracle Corp. resolved their differences. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone: (203) 459-6855 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux . Red Hat vs. Suse -- Christopher Royce [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/22/02 08:53:32 -0800 Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position There isn't one. There are tradeoffs between the two distro's. Most of it comes down to which one you are more comfortable with or which one does more things (including the installation) that you cannot fathom. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse
Mandrake 8.1/8.2 works really well with Oracle 9i Release 2. It's RH compatible, meaning applications are numerous but it does not have the faulty compiler and it's still free unlike Suse. Downloads are easy to get at as well. A lot easier than RH and Suse. ltiu Quoting Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I switched from RH 6.2 to SuSE 7.2 (now I'm running 8.0) and here are my impressions: 1) RH was using a proprietary compiler (gcc 2.96) and libraries were incompatible with many independent pieces of software. In particular, Oracle installation was a genuine nightmare. No way I'm going back to RH while they're using that @#$! compiler. 2) Availability of software for SuSE is very poor. Nothing on the rpmfind.net, their website is lousy and they are working very hard to make it even worse. In particular, they used to have a subdirectory called full-names where one could find all rpm packages that were officially available for a given release. That was far too easy, so they removed that directory and replaced it with the file INDEX.gz which you are supposed to download, zgrep for the given package and then download it from it's location. 3) SuSE technical support is bad and less then useless. RH wasn't a shining example of customer service either, but SuSE really shows you what the word untermensch really means. 4) SuSE kernel is tainted and is not reporting version the way it's supposed to. That confuses the heck out of the utilities like OSS sound drivers. When I asked SuSE for help they told me to use ALSA (I've paid for OSS and with ALSA my mic was dead as dodo). When further pressed, they told me that kernel relinking is for gurus only and to stay away from that nasty stuff. Eventually, I downloaded a standard kernel, linked it to fit my HW, installed OSS and it worked perfectly. SuSE kernel has completely unexpected dependencies and cannot be compiled easily without the help from SuSE. The latter is impossible to get. 5) Software is installed in curious places (xmms is installed under /usr/X11 so that you cannot use plugin rpms) and is always at least a version behind. Ximian GNOME doesn't work quite well and one needs an expert to do so, otherwise, only KDE is left. 6) SuSE has memory test as one of the booting options which was an extremely convenient thing when I was installing additional memory and my DIMM was bad. 7) The latest RH betas are done with gcc 3.1 which is an official gcc release. As soon as that hits production, I'm switching back to RH, especially now when RH and Oracle Corp. resolved their differences. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone: (203) 459-6855 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux . Red Hat vs. Suse -- Christopher Royce [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/22/02 08:53:32 -0800 Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position There isn't one. There are tradeoffs between the two distro's. Most of it comes down to which one you are more comfortable with or which one does more things (including the installation) that you cannot fathom. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author
Re: Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse
On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 03:04:03PM -0800, ltiu wrote: Mandrake 8.1/8.2 works really well with Oracle 9i Release 2. but is not certified by Oracle. It's RH compatible, meaning applications are numerous but it does not have the faulty compiler and it's still free unlike Suse. Downloads are easy to get at as well. A lot easier than RH and Suse. ltiu Quoting Gogala, Mladen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I switched from RH 6.2 to SuSE 7.2 (now I'm running 8.0) and here are my impressions: 1) RH was using a proprietary compiler (gcc 2.96) and libraries were incompatible with many independent pieces of software. In particular, Oracle installation was a genuine nightmare. No way I'm going back to RH while they're using that @#$! compiler. 2) Availability of software for SuSE is very poor. Nothing on the rpmfind.net, their website is lousy and they are working very hard to make it even worse. In particular, they used to have a subdirectory called full-names where one could find all rpm packages that were officially available for a given release. That was far too easy, so they removed that directory and replaced it with the file INDEX.gz which you are supposed to download, zgrep for the given package and then download it from it's location. 3) SuSE technical support is bad and less then useless. RH wasn't a shining example of customer service either, but SuSE really shows you what the word untermensch really means. 4) SuSE kernel is tainted and is not reporting version the way it's supposed to. That confuses the heck out of the utilities like OSS sound drivers. When I asked SuSE for help they told me to use ALSA (I've paid for OSS and with ALSA my mic was dead as dodo). When further pressed, they told me that kernel relinking is for gurus only and to stay away from that nasty stuff. Eventually, I downloaded a standard kernel, linked it to fit my HW, installed OSS and it worked perfectly. SuSE kernel has completely unexpected dependencies and cannot be compiled easily without the help from SuSE. The latter is impossible to get. 5) Software is installed in curious places (xmms is installed under /usr/X11 so that you cannot use plugin rpms) and is always at least a version behind. Ximian GNOME doesn't work quite well and one needs an expert to do so, otherwise, only KDE is left. 6) SuSE has memory test as one of the booting options which was an extremely convenient thing when I was installing additional memory and my DIMM was bad. 7) The latest RH betas are done with gcc 3.1 which is an official gcc release. As soon as that hits production, I'm switching back to RH, especially now when RH and Oracle Corp. resolved their differences. Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA Phone: (203) 459-6855 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux . Red Hat vs. Suse -- Christopher Royce [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/22/02 08:53:32 -0800 Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position There isn't one. There are tradeoffs between the two distro's. Most of it comes down to which one you are more comfortable with or which one does more things (including the installation) that you cannot fathom. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Gogala, Mladen INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
Re:experiences oracle on linux rh
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RE: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
The kicker with Oracle's certified Linux platforms/versions is if you run into problems on a non-certified dist and try and get support on a problem that has nothing to do with what dist or version you're on (like errors in a shell script in OiD), they won't touch it and won't mark it as a bug to send to development. Hell, Support didn't even have a Linux box to verify my claims! Apparently, they do now. Another quirk is that you can install RH7.1 and upgrade everything else (kernel, libs, desktop, etc.) independently to bring it up to RH7.3 or whatever, and it'll still be supported. Go figure. Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -Original Message- From: James J. Morrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 12:08 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ??? Christopher Royce wrote: Need Input: I would like to solicit real life experiences, educated opinions, accolades and criticisms from those of you who have implemented or are considering implementing Oracle on Linux in a business critical production environment. We are considering both Red Hat and Suse distributions. We have discovered that regardless of the Linux distribution support is generally expensive. That is not a particularly 'deal breaker' determining factor .. BUT .. I question the quality of support, the expediency of response and the 'sense of urgency' experienced in the event of a critical application being down. I am familiar with limited Oracle-Linux implementations but not to the 'industrial strength' degree that has been proposed (but already implemented) by our requesting user community. Is there a preferred distribution We already have Red Hat and Suse implementations and will choose one of them as the standard 'should we chose to accept this mission'. I believe that both claim to be the preferred distribution by Oracle and that they are 'tier one ports' As for Linux distributions? While Linux is Linux (mostly), you will probably have fewer problems listening to Oracle's recommendation than trying to go it alone using another distro. The reason I say that is, when Oracle tells you that Oracle 8.X or 9.X is certified on RedHat 7.X they mean that, for the most part, if you install *THAT* distro of Linux, you should be able to successfully install Oracle on it. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 08:18:24AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... and Oracle only supports Red Hat so that is probably what you'll end up with. -- The support matrix at metalink includes other distributions, and does not include RH7.2, only the antique 7.1. I have to conclude that the ora/rh honeymoon is over. They did just add Red Hat 2.1 Advanced Server to the 9i matrix, so maybe it's back on again. Sure wish they would pick up RH7.2. === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ray Stell INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
-- Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/15/02 06:38:28 -0800 The support matrix at metalink includes other distributions, and does not include RH7.2, only the antique 7.1. I have to conclude that the ora/rh honeymoon is over. They did just add Red Hat 2.1 Advanced Server to the 9i matrix, so maybe it's back on again. Sure wish they would pick up RH7.2. Not a honeymoon issue, just that Linux progresses much faster than most product vendors are used to. If you look at the number of O/S and distro releases on Linux systems compared to, say, Solaris or HP-UX it's about 5-10x higher. The folks are Oracle simply aren't used to qualifying their product that often -- and may consider RH 7.X to be a generic platform. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 07:28:23AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a honeymoon issue, just that Linux progresses much The Oracle support matrix says SuSE 7.2 and RH 7.1. RH flagged in the scheme about the time RH announced entry into the db market with it's PostgreSQL port. Call it what you like, your idea that Oracle only supports Red Hat is false. The folks are Oracle simply aren't used to qualifying their product that often -- and may consider RH 7.X to be a generic platform. Maybe not === Ray Stell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (540) 231-4109 KE4TJC28^D -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Ray Stell INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
-- James J. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 07/13/02 21:08:18 -0800 By thw way, my preferred Distro is Mandrake. (Bear in mind that RedHat was [and may still be] compiled to run on an 80386. Most modern CPU's have additional features that you have to compile your software to use. Mandrake, on the other hand, is pre-compiled for a Pentium.) [NOTE: you can always re-compile the operating system binaries to run on a different type of CPU with either Distro.] One of the reasons that RH now tkaes up 3 CD's is the collection of x86 platforms it supports. If Oracle doesn't claim to not support Mandrake then you might be able to get away with it; otherwise you're likley to get the Not Certified Here response and told to back off to RH 7.X. Upgrading the kernel is always a good idea since the RH distro's are multpiple rev's behind and you don't need every one of the modules they build for every system on the planet. That will give you most of the speed advantage, since you're stuck with whatever compilation Oracle gives you on its binaries anyway. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
We are considering both Red Hat and Suse distributions. We have discovered that regardless of the Linux distribution support is generally expensive. That is not a particularly 'deal breaker' determining factor .. BUT .. I question the quality of support, the expediency of response and the 'sense of urgency' experienced in the event of a critical application being down. I am familiar with limited Oracle-Linux implementations but not to the 'industrial strength' degree that has been proposed (but already implemented) by our requesting user community. The prices for 7x24 support are roughly the same for linux and Solaris, HP-UX, or AIX. One other option is to buy the linux from IBM, with support. IBM seriously wants linux to succeed on thier platforms and has good support. Linux Care and Cygnus (now part of Red Hat) have been dealing with mission-critical systems for some time and are capable of fixing things. Obviously, setting up the system in a supportable fashion (e.g., supported hardware, up to date drivers) will get you better response times. Is there a preferred distribution Sure: Red Hat preferrs that you buy theirs, SuSE wants your money also. Beyond that the kernel -- a.k.a., linux -- is something you download from the net and compile locally. It has relatively little effect on the difference between distributions. The real distinctions are in SysAdmin tools and the installation. Most of it is a purely religious issue, all you can really do is set up a few machines and try them. So far as I know HP and IBM are both going with Red Hat as their base distro's and Oracle only supports Red Hat so that is probably what you'll end up with. Eyeball the available support contracts to be sure. The net result will depend heavily on the hardware you're running. For serious databases X86 platforms don't work well because of hardware limitations. You are probably better off looking at the hardware first and then finding out which software vendor is supported (probably Red Hat for HP or IBM systems). My initial implementation is Suse 7.2 Enterprise on an IBM NetFinity, 4 cpu, 2 Gbyte (memory) server using a Net Appliance Filer. There are six instances currently up and running. Thus far there have been no occurrences of swapping or i/o bottlenecks but then the system has yet to be fully 'stressed' and there are scalability concerns. The USER also wants to put Oracle 9iAS on the same box - I have managed to delay that for now, pending further research. I have had a couple of worrying episodes where a file system 'filled up' (on the Filer) that completely 'hung' the system requiring a full system re-boot. Incidentally the aforementioned NetFinity implementation is 'a given' as the six instances have already been migrated from an aged and de-commissioned HP system. I have inherited the results and there is no going back at this juncture. What file system are you running? Are you using LVM? devfs? A full system lockup in this case seems suspicious. -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 800 762 1582 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
Christopher Royce wrote: Need Input: I would like to solicit real life experiences, educated opinions, accolades and criticisms from those of you who have implemented or are considering implementing Oracle on Linux in a business critical production environment. We are considering both Red Hat and Suse distributions. We have discovered that regardless of the Linux distribution support is generally expensive. That is not a particularly 'deal breaker' determining factor .. BUT .. I question the quality of support, the expediency of response and the 'sense of urgency' experienced in the event of a critical application being down. I am familiar with limited Oracle-Linux implementations but not to the 'industrial strength' degree that has been proposed (but already implemented) by our requesting user community. Is there a preferred distribution We already have Red Hat and Suse implementations and will choose one of them as the standard 'should we chose to accept this mission'. I believe that both claim to be the preferred distribution by Oracle and that they are 'tier one ports' As for Linux distributions? While Linux is Linux (mostly), you will probably have fewer problems listening to Oracle's recommendation than trying to go it alone using another distro. The reason I say that is, when Oracle tells you that Oracle 8.X or 9.X is certified on RedHat 7.X they mean that, for the most part, if you install *THAT* distro of Linux, you should be able to successfully install Oracle on it. You shouldn't have to worry about tracking down a specific Kernel version to patch your particular favorite distro. And, you shouldn't have to worry about *which* version of the glibc libraries you have to track down and install. Obviously, newer versions may require you to upgrade those things to be certified, but, you shouldn't need to worry so much about them out the door. By thw way, my preferred Distro is Mandrake. (Bear in mind that RedHat was [and may still be] compiled to run on an 80386. Most modern CPU's have additional features that you have to compile your software to use. Mandrake, on the other hand, is pre-compiled for a Pentium.) [NOTE: you can always re-compile the operating system binaries to run on a different type of CPU with either Distro.] My initial implementation is Suse 7.2 Enterprise on an IBM NetFinity, 4 cpu, 2 Gbyte (memory) server using a Net Appliance Filer. There are six instances currently up and running. Thus far there have been no occurrences of swapping or i/o bottlenecks but then the system has yet to be fully 'stressed' and there are scalability concerns. The USER also wants to put Oracle 9iAS on the same box - I have managed to delay that for now, pending further research. I have had a couple of worrying episodes where a file system 'filled up' (on the Filer) that completely 'hung' the system requiring a full system re-boot. Incidentally the aforementioned NetFinity implementation is 'a given' as the six instances have already been migrated from an aged and de-commissioned HP system. I have inherited the results and there is no going back at this juncture. Bear in mind that if you are using a NetApp Filer, you are actually using NFS to access your filesystems. While Oracle's stance on this has changed somewhat (used to be a never, but never, do that, now [thanks to much goading by NetApp and others] it is a 'compatible' solution). In my understanding, the previous position was taken because not all NFS servers start nfslockd and nfsstatd by default. Namely, some version of HP/UX. (They were there, and could be started, but you had to know that you needed them). Personally, accessing my datafiles (or any other Oracle component) via NFS is sub-optimal in my book. NFS is a hideously inefficient protocol and an Oracle Database can create quite a bit of NFS traffic (in the regular world, this would be just disk I/O). Additionally NFS doesn't necessarily handle some things quite as gently as a local filesystem would. (As you noticed, the unavailability of the filesystem can cause the machine to hang). I would recommend investigating several things: 1. Look into your NFS mount options (and any other options you can set with your NFS client). You may be able to change the NFS client's behavior, somewhat, when conditions like a full filesystem occur. 2. Turn off tablespace autoextend. This way, with the exception of archivelogs, your chances of filling up a filesystem are dramatically decreased. You (as a DBA) will actually have to *manage* the growth. (In case you haven't guessed, tablespace autoextend is a bad feature, in my book). 3. Consider disabling the NetApp's snapshot feature. I believe that this is on by default. (And, I'm told, allows some nice point-in-time recoverability. However, I'm not sure how well this works
Oracle on Linux ... Production Strength ???
Need Input: I would like to solicit real life experiences, educated opinions, accolades and criticisms from those of you who have implemented or are considering implementing Oracle on Linux in a business critical production environment. We are considering both Red Hat and Suse distributions. We have discovered that regardless of the Linux distribution support is generally expensive. That is not a particularly 'deal breaker' determining factor .. BUT .. I question the quality of support, the expediency of response and the 'sense of urgency' experienced in the event of a critical application being down. I am familiar with limited Oracle-Linux implementations but not to the 'industrial strength' degree that has been proposed (but already implemented) by our requesting user community. Is there a preferred distribution We already have Red Hat and Suse implementations and will choose one of them as the standard 'should we chose to accept this mission'. I believe that both claim to be the preferred distribution by Oracle and that they are 'tier one ports' My initial implementation is Suse 7.2 Enterprise on an IBM NetFinity, 4 cpu, 2 Gbyte (memory) server using a Net Appliance Filer. There are six instances currently up and running. Thus far there have been no occurrences of swapping or i/o bottlenecks but then the system has yet to be fully 'stressed' and there are scalability concerns. The USER also wants to put Oracle 9iAS on the same box - I have managed to delay that for now, pending further research. I have had a couple of worrying episodes where a file system 'filled up' (on the Filer) that completely 'hung' the system requiring a full system re-boot. Incidentally the aforementioned NetFinity implementation is 'a given' as the six instances have already been migrated from an aged and de-commissioned HP system. I have inherited the results and there is no going back at this juncture. Your knowledge, thoughts and wisdom greatly appreciated. Thnx OK Bye The world has arrived at an age of cheap complex devices of great reliability, and something is bound to come of it. -- Vannevar Bush (1945) Chris Royce [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] winmail.dat
Oracle on Linux articles
Linux Maximus, Part 1: Gladiator-like Oracle Performance - http://www.linuxjournal.com//article.php?sid=5840 Linux Maximus, Part 2: the RAW Facts on Filesystems - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5841 (the discussions after the articles are quite interesting too) hth, Marin ...what you brought from your past, is of no use in your present. When you must choose a new path, do not bring old experiences with you. Those who strike out afresh, but who attempt to retain a little of the old life, end up torn apart by their own memories. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Marin Dimitrov INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux articles
I have to strongly disagree with the 'bigger is better' methodology of this article! For example, allowing 100% of the Linux buffer cache to be dirty, then only running a 5 second load pretty much guarantees that very little physical I/O was performed. The author is also misinformed about the workings of the log buffer, and the interaction of Oracle blocksize with the filesystem block size. In some ways, though, I agree with the subtitle: Gladiator-like performance. In this case, the Gladiator runs faster than any man alive, until he reaches the wall of the amphitheater, where he has to stop and be eaten by the lion after all ;-) James -- James Morle Scale Abilities, Ltd http://www.scaleabilities.co.uk Author of Scaling Oracle8i - Building Highly Scalable OLTP System Architectures -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marin Dimitrov Sent: 12 March 2002 12:33 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle on Linux articles Linux Maximus, Part 1: Gladiator-like Oracle Performance - http://www.linuxjournal.com//article.php?sid= 5840 Linux Maximus, Part 2: the RAW Facts on Filesystems - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5841 (the discussions after the articles are quite interesting too) hth, Marin ...what you brought from your past, is of no use in your present. When you must choose a new path, do not bring old experiences with you. Those who strike out afresh, but who attempt to retain a little of the old life, end up torn apart by their own memories. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Marin Dimitrov INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: James Morle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux articles
Yep, That was my feeling when I first saw it too. I think that some of the assumptions are pretty naive. Most of the people who've replied to the article seem to say much the same thing. A little knowledge ... Mike -Original Message- Sent: 12 March 2002 13:58 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have to strongly disagree with the 'bigger is better' methodology of this article! For example, allowing 100% of the Linux buffer cache to be dirty, then only running a 5 second load pretty much guarantees that very little physical I/O was performed. The author is also misinformed about the workings of the log buffer, and the interaction of Oracle blocksize with the filesystem block size. In some ways, though, I agree with the subtitle: Gladiator-like performance. In this case, the Gladiator runs faster than any man alive, until he reaches the wall of the amphitheater, where he has to stop and be eaten by the lion after all ;-) James -- James Morle Scale Abilities, Ltd http://www.scaleabilities.co.uk Author of Scaling Oracle8i - Building Highly Scalable OLTP System Architectures -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marin Dimitrov Sent: 12 March 2002 12:33 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle on Linux articles Linux Maximus, Part 1: Gladiator-like Oracle Performance - http://www.linuxjournal.com//article.php?sid= 5840 Linux Maximus, Part 2: the RAW Facts on Filesystems - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5841 (the discussions after the articles are quite interesting too) hth, Marin ...what you brought from your past, is of no use in your present. When you must choose a new path, do not bring old experiences with you. Those who strike out afresh, but who attempt to retain a little of the old life, end up torn apart by their own memories. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Marin Dimitrov INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: James Morle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Mike Hately, Choiceline IT Ltd. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux articles
The author is also misinformed about the workings of the log buffer, and the interaction of Oracle blocksize with the filesystem block size. I didn't see any discussion of this in the article. ? Could you briefly explain your understanding of the workings of the log buffer and the interaction of Oracle blocksize and filesystem block size? Many thanks in advance, Steve Orr -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:58 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Importance: High I have to strongly disagree with the 'bigger is better' methodology of this article! For example, allowing 100% of the Linux buffer cache to be dirty, then only running a 5 second load pretty much guarantees that very little physical I/O was performed. The author is also misinformed about the workings of the log buffer, and the interaction of Oracle blocksize with the filesystem block size. In some ways, though, I agree with the subtitle: Gladiator-like performance. In this case, the Gladiator runs faster than any man alive, until he reaches the wall of the amphitheater, where he has to stop and be eaten by the lion after all ;-) James -- James Morle Scale Abilities, Ltd http://www.scaleabilities.co.uk Author of Scaling Oracle8i - Building Highly Scalable OLTP System Architectures -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marin Dimitrov Sent: 12 March 2002 12:33 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Oracle on Linux articles Linux Maximus, Part 1: Gladiator-like Oracle Performance - http://www.linuxjournal.com//article.php?sid= 5840 Linux Maximus, Part 2: the RAW Facts on Filesystems - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5841 (the discussions after the articles are quite interesting too) hth, Marin ...what you brought from your past, is of no use in your present. When you must choose a new path, do not bring old experiences with you. Those who strike out afresh, but who attempt to retain a little of the old life, end up torn apart by their own memories. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Marin Dimitrov INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: James Morle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux articles
Hi Steve, The author is also misinformed about the workings of the log buffer, and the interaction of Oracle blocksize with the filesystem block size. I didn't see any discussion of this in the article. ? This is two separate issues: a) log buffer - this was discussed insofar as 'open it up really big', and b) block sizes - this was implied from his not understanding the reasons for the larger block sizes not making a bigger difference. Could you briefly explain your understanding of the workings of the log buffer and the interaction of Oracle blocksize and filesystem block size? Yes, no problem: Log buffer: The log buffer flushes under certain conditions; an explicit commit, buffer 1/3 full, or every 3 seconds if one of the former conditions has not occurred. In the case of the online transaction, the former case will have always been true for a TPC-C transaction. For the load, either the former or secondary condition will have always been true, depending upon the loading code. At no point in the article did the author suggest a rationale for any of the tuning actions, and this was a classic example. A useful datapoint at this stage would have been how long the sessions were waiting for space in the buffer compared to log file switching time, compared to physical I/O time. I would suggest that a far more significant gain in performance would have been gained from much bigger log files, and a relatively small log buffer. Oracle blocksize vs FS blocksize: The author noted a large improvement going from 2KB to 4KB blocks. He fails to mention that the block size of the filesystem (assuming default ext2) is 4KB. This is far more significant, both from the standpoint of 2KB-4KB and 4KB-8KB Oracle blocksizes. In the 2-4 case, the system was issuing twice as many system calls under 2KB blocks for the same number of physical reads as the $KB case. In the 4-8 case, the system was having to break open each I/O call into two physical reads/writes, because the filesystem block size is the only unit of I/O. So, if the filesystem had a blocksize of 8KB, the gain at 8KB would have been more significant. All this discussion completely ignores the other efficiency gains with larger blocks, especially inside Oracle. Without seeing any Oracle wait events (again), it's all pure speculation as to where the real bottlenecks moved to! Really, the thing that went against the grain was the 'tuning in a vacuum' approach of the author. It's so unnecessary to do when there is so much instrumentation available. Regards James -- James Morle Scale Abilities, Ltd http://www.scaleabilities.co.uk Author of Scaling Oracle8i - Building Highly Scalable OLTP System Architectures -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: James Morle INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux articles
Thanks James. OK, now I see where you're coming from... like the esteemed published author that you are, you're wanting a complete treatise on Oracle database tuning. :-) But my sense was that the article was merely addressing quick and dirty tuning options or low hanging fruit as the author put it. Given that the audience was a Linux forum and not an Oracle DBA forum I believe these tuning efforts were intended to be for a generic Oracle/Linux implementation. Here's a quote from the author, Remember, I said that we'd start by looking at some very high ROI approaches. That means we're looking for items so easy and apparent in terms of applicability and impact that we only need observe the runtime differences in the TPC to see if we're on the right track. The author stated that the default Oracle parameters are useless and started with them as a baseline and gave us benchmarks to prove his point. That's all... nothing more nothing less. Do we need to look at wait events BEFORE changing some default init.ora settings, increasing db_block_size, or using locally managed tablespaces? Is chattr +A *.dbf something we should do on all Linux/Oracle databases using ext3 filesystems? Isn't there a general concensus that Linux kernel 2.4.x performs better? I appreciated seeing benchmarks on the kernel versions. I guess my point is that the default Oracle/Linux configurations are insufficient and there's probably a GOOD list of recommended default settings that are appropriate as a good starting point for 90% of all typical Linux/Oracle implementations. Has anyone published such a list? After starting with a good default installation then it would be nice if we had a public domain benchmarking database with data and TPC benchmarking code. Then someone could walk through a complete tuning effort with all the instrumentation as a teaching exercise on how to identify and remove bottlenecks. With something like this we could actually run the tests ourselves without having to take someone's word for it. Not only that, since nothing remains the same, it could be a good mechanism for quickly testing performance impacts with Oracle and Linux software upgrades and revisions. Sounds like the makings of a new book. ;-) Steve Orr Bozeman, MT BTW, I REALLY like your book. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Steve, The author is also misinformed about the workings of the log buffer, and the interaction of Oracle blocksize with the filesystem block size. I didn't see any discussion of this in the article. ? This is two separate issues: a) log buffer - this was discussed insofar as 'open it up really big', and b) block sizes - this was implied from his not understanding the reasons for the larger block sizes not making a bigger difference. Could you briefly explain your understanding of the workings of the log buffer and the interaction of Oracle blocksize and filesystem block size? Yes, no problem: Log buffer: The log buffer flushes under certain conditions; an explicit commit, buffer 1/3 full, or every 3 seconds if one of the former conditions has not occurred. In the case of the online transaction, the former case will have always been true for a TPC-C transaction. For the load, either the former or secondary condition will have always been true, depending upon the loading code. At no point in the article did the author suggest a rationale for any of the tuning actions, and this was a classic example. A useful datapoint at this stage would have been how long the sessions were waiting for space in the buffer compared to log file switching time, compared to physical I/O time. I would suggest that a far more significant gain in performance would have been gained from much bigger log files, and a relatively small log buffer. Oracle blocksize vs FS blocksize: The author noted a large improvement going from 2KB to 4KB blocks. He fails to mention that the block size of the filesystem (assuming default ext2) is 4KB. This is far more significant, both from the standpoint of 2KB-4KB and 4KB-8KB Oracle blocksizes. In the 2-4 case, the system was issuing twice as many system calls under 2KB blocks for the same number of physical reads as the $KB case. In the 4-8 case, the system was having to break open each I/O call into two physical reads/writes, because the filesystem block size is the only unit of I/O. So, if the filesystem had a blocksize of 8KB, the gain at 8KB would have been more significant. All this discussion completely ignores the other efficiency gains with larger blocks, especially inside Oracle. Without seeing any Oracle wait events (again), it's all pure speculation as to where the real bottlenecks moved to! Really, the thing that went against the grain was the 'tuning in a vacuum' approach of the author. It's so unnecessary to do when there is so much instrumentation available. Regards James -- James Morle
RE: Oracle on Linux articles
Hi Steve. I also see your point, of course, and it's often a fine line to tread. However, if making something well tuned were a simple case of plugging in numbers, it would already be configured that way. Of course, some defaults are plain silly! The reality is, and the point behind my objections, that calling this 'low hanging fruit' deceives the reader into not using his/her brain. For example, it's not high-ROI to tune a system (as I believe this system was tuned) to run for a *short period* like greased lightning. Here's my nutshell description of 'Tuning': Tuning is about avoiding unnecessary work. Think about it for a second. If work has to be done, you can't rob Peter to pay Paul... The work has to be done in the end. It's just a case of minimizing the cost of getting the necessary work done. But your point stands. Chattr +A, for example is a no-brainer (but if anyone has other information, I'd love to hear it). I think there are two actions that are needed to achieve what you're looking for: always-wins, in a list (such as chattr), and a methodology (sorry, I hate that word too) for the other stuff. For sure, there is a no-brainer decision process for this that's just as simple as the always-wins. The danger is unsubstatiated advice. Like not using raw devices - I hope nobody follows that advice without looking very hard at the whys and whats! Glad you liked the book. It would be nice to make a 9i version, but the publisher is 'disappointed with the sales' and isn't interested. Regards James Thanks James. OK, now I see where you're coming from... like the esteemed published author that you are, you're wanting a complete treatise on Oracle database tuning. :-) But my sense was that the article was merely addressing quick and dirty tuning options or low hanging fruit as the author put it. Given that the audience was a Linux forum and not an Oracle DBA forum I believe these tuning efforts were intended to be for a generic Oracle/Linux implementation. Here's a quote from the author, Remember, I said that we'd start by looking at some very high ROI approaches. That means we're looking for items so easy and apparent in terms of applicability and impact that we only need observe the runtime differences in the TPC to see if we're on the right track. The author stated that the default Oracle parameters are useless and started with them as a baseline and gave us benchmarks to prove his point. That's all... nothing more nothing less. Do we need to look at wait events BEFORE changing some default init.ora settings, increasing db_block_size, or using locally managed tablespaces? Is chattr +A *.dbf something we should do on all Linux/Oracle databases using ext3 filesystems? Isn't there a general concensus that Linux kernel 2.4.x performs better? I appreciated seeing benchmarks on the kernel versions. I guess my point is that the default Oracle/Linux configurations are insufficient and there's probably a GOOD list of recommended default settings that are appropriate as a good starting point for 90% of all typical Linux/Oracle implementations. Has anyone published such a list? After starting with a good default installation then it would be nice if we had a public domain benchmarking database with data and TPC benchmarking code. Then someone could walk through a complete tuning effort with all the instrumentation as a teaching exercise on how to identify and remove bottlenecks. With something like this we could actually run the tests ourselves without having to take someone's word for it. Not only that, since nothing remains the same, it could be a good mechanism for quickly testing performance impacts with Oracle and Linux software upgrades and revisions. Sounds like the makings of a new book. ;-) Steve Orr Bozeman, MT BTW, I REALLY like your book. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:00 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi Steve, The author is also misinformed about the workings of the log buffer, and the interaction of Oracle blocksize with the filesystem block size. I didn't see any discussion of this in the article. ? This is two separate issues: a) log buffer - this was discussed insofar as 'open it up really big', and b) block sizes - this was implied from his not understanding the reasons for the larger block sizes not making a bigger difference. Could you briefly explain your understanding of the workings of the log buffer and the interaction of Oracle blocksize and filesystem block size? Yes, no problem: Log buffer: The log buffer flushes under certain conditions; an explicit commit, buffer 1/3 full, or every 3 seconds if one of the former conditions has not occurred. In the case of the online transaction, the former case will have always been true for a TPC-C transaction. For the load, either the former
RE: Oracle on Linux articles
Regarding chattr and changing atime updates on Oracle database files... here's the response I got from Oracle support: - UPDATE: According to man chattr: When a file with the 'A' attribute set is modified, its atime record is not modified. This avoid a certain amount of disk I/O for laptop systems. I am not aware of a reason why this would have negative side-effects, but we cannot endorse it's use. Changing the file attributes like that has not been tested by development, so we will not be able to support it. - And here's my response: - Email Update button has been pressed -- Sending email. 12-MAR-02 13:22:51 : CHANGES MADE VIA MetaLink NOT YET FORWARDED TO OUR INTERNAL SYSTEMS : New info : Well I respectfully request that you guys get on the ball and test this quickly since there are published TPC benchmarks showing that it significanly improves performance!!! - -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Orr, Steve INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
oracle on linux vs oracle on NT
pros and cons of each please... stability, performance, management, etc... for small scale oracle financials implementation (125 users max) and what would be the best and most reliable linux distribution to use. on Compaq proliant hardware no experience on oracle on linux but with experience with NT (very disappointing) Any input will be very much appreciated. =) -- Maria Aurora VT de la Vega (OCP) Database Specialist Philippine Stock Exchange, Inc. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Maria Aurora VT de la Vega INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: oracle on linux vs oracle on NT
Go for Suse Linux and Oracle Apps 11i. Pretty stable and performance is very good. Have tried it on HPNetserver with 4 CPUs/2GB RAM/170GB Disk storage on 2 raidsets. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L pros and cons of each please... stability, performance, management, etc... for small scale oracle financials implementation (125 users max) and what would be the best and most reliable linux distribution to use. on Compaq proliant hardware no experience on oracle on linux but with experience with NT (very disappointing) Any input will be very much appreciated. =) -- Maria Aurora VT de la Vega (OCP) Database Specialist Philippine Stock Exchange, Inc. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Maria Aurora VT de la Vega INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Cabansay, Yoyong INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Installing Oracle on Linux
Hello, a little problem during installing Oracle 8.1.7 on Linux. I was installing 817 and I didn't let the installer create database. So, I'd let dbassist create scripts and I'm trying run it. When I start svrmgrl, I get ORA-12545: TNS:name lookup failure error = I cannot connect internal to create database. Tnsnames.ora and listener.ora are all right. Have I missed something? Thanks JP -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Installing Oracle on Linux
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Our admin didn't run root.sh during install process. Everything goes well. :-) Thanks. JP On Sat 8. December 2001 20:25, you wrote: Hello, a little problem during installing Oracle 8.1.7 on Linux. I was installing 817 and I didn't let the installer create database. So, I'd let dbassist create scripts and I'm trying run it. When I start svrmgrl, I get ORA-12545: TNS:name lookup failure error = I cannot connect internal to create database. Tnsnames.ora and listener.ora are all right. Have I missed something? Thanks JP -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Installing Oracle on Linux
Hi root.sh will update the env files (located under /usr/local/bin). I think it is a good idea to take them backup before applying root.sh (Solaris 2.7) Earlier in one installation, we got this same situation. We were to restore them from a different server that has the same environment and version. I think the files to be backedup are: oraenv, corenv Srinivas -Original Message- Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2001 5:05 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sorry, sorry, sorry. Our admin didn't run root.sh during install process. Everything goes well. :-) Thanks. JP On Sat 8. December 2001 20:25, you wrote: Hello, a little problem during installing Oracle 8.1.7 on Linux. I was installing 817 and I didn't let the installer create database. So, I'd let dbassist create scripts and I'm trying run it. When I start svrmgrl, I get ORA-12545: TNS:name lookup failure error = I cannot connect internal to create database. Tnsnames.ora and listener.ora are all right. Have I missed something? Thanks JP -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jan Pruner INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tatireddy, Shrinivas (MED, Keane) INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
Ding, ding. Give that pretty young lady a prize. I cpio'ed them last night with no problems. I can't believe they didn't compress them. They end with .gz and they tell you to uncompress them. Does Oracle's left hand talk to the right hand? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't have to unzip them either From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800 Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to use gunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
not usually no. you expect Oracle Documentation to be completely accurate? What planet are you from? :) From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:26:14 -0800 Ding, ding. Give that pretty young lady a prize. I cpio'ed them last night with no problems. I can't believe they didn't compress them. They end with .gz and they tell you to uncompress them. Does Oracle's left hand talk to the right hand? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't have to unzip them either From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800 Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to use gunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
I could describe what Oracle does mostly with its right hand... but maybe this list isn't the place to do it. :-) --- Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not usually no. you expect Oracle Documentation to be completely accurate? What planet are you from? :) From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:26:14 -0800 Ding, ding. Give that pretty young lady a prize. I cpio'ed them last night with no problems. I can't believe they didn't compress them. They end with .gz and they tell you to uncompress them. Does Oracle's left hand talk to the right hand? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't have to unzip them either From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800 Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to use gunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
Nitzod, the 37th planet of the solar system Jotpa. It's really cold there right now. Larry must have written that page... -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 1:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L not usually no. you expect Oracle Documentation to be completely accurate? What planet are you from? :) From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 05:26:14 -0800 Ding, ding. Give that pretty young lady a prize. I cpio'ed them last night with no problems. I can't believe they didn't compress them. They end with .gz and they tell you to uncompress them. Does Oracle's left hand talk to the right hand? -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:16 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't have to unzip them either From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800 Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to use gunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public
Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
I had a similar problem getting 817nt from OTN. I had to download the file to linux - run gunzip. then I tar'd it up again and copy to NT - where I used a DOS tar program to un-tar it. Sheeze! Very painful. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 10:36 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
If you do not use a download manager like getright, you will almost always download broken files. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:(707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863 -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
windoze shouldnt be the problem(did i really say that), i used that at work to do the downloads copies them to RH machine(binary ftp), and installed with no problem. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/27/01 01:35PM Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files fromtechnet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, butgunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and usingWinzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smallerthird file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing somethinghere?I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work,so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be theproblem??TIA!!Chris-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
Odd thing is that linux/solaris files come down correctly. And I've down-loaded other zips for NT in the past with no problems. This seems like a recent problem. -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 11:01 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you do not use a download manager like getright, you will almost always download broken files. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:(707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863 -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 1:36 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: John Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to use gunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
do a file on them in linux and see that the magic number comes back to show you what it thinks it is. joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/27/01 02:53PM Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to usegunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult...-Original Message-Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LI think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped.From: "Grabowy, Chris" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files fromtechnet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, butgunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and usingWinzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smallerthird file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing somethinghere?I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work,so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be theproblem??TIA!!Chris--Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com--Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing)._Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com-- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing ListsTo REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
Anything over 2oom, is almost impossible to download from technet without using a download manager, what happens is during the transfer it aborts and restarts. Which fouls it up some how, once I started using get right to downnload the stuff, it worked everytime, not to mention faster. Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes. Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Phone: (978) 322-5744 Fax:(707) 885-2275 Fuelspot 73 Princeton Street North, Chelmsford 01863 -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to use gunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Christopher Spence INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress...
yeah, and they said the same thing about the solaris ones... and you didn't have to unzip them either From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 10:53:40 -0800 Well, they end with .gz, and the instructions under the files specify to use gunzip to unzip them. Oh why, oh why does life have to be so difficult... -Original Message- Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think it's simpler than that -- I don't think they really need to be unzipped. From: Grabowy, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Oracle 9i Linux files are erroring during uncompress... Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 09:35:47 -0800 Using Windoze, I downloaded the three Oracle 9i Linux files from technet.oracle.com. I then rebooted into Suse, copied the files over, but gunzip is not recognizing the files. I switched back to Windoze and using Winzip it doesnt like the files either. So I redownloaded just the smaller third file and neither will uncompress the file. Am I missing something here? I would download the files from SuSE but I can't get my DSL modem to work, so I have been downloading the files using Windoze. Could that be the problem?? TIA!! Chris -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Grabowy, Chris INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: I still can't install Oracle on Linux - help
Hi, Thank you for your help. The problem is I can't download the 1.1.8 Java from www.blackdown.org because every link responds with 'Server not available' or something like this. Can you send it to my e-mail address? ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thank you very much Zsolt Csillag, Hungary At 09:56 2001.07.18. -0800, you wrote: The Java that comes with Oracle is broke. Sorry. Here's how you can make it work, at least it did for me using SuSE 7.1 and Oracle 8.1.7. Get the 1.1.8 Java from www.blackdown.org Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Csillag Zsolt INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
I still can't install Oracle on Linux - help
Hi, I have the following environment: Suse 7.1, Oracle 8.1.6, 256 Mb Ram, KDE, Java runtime (I hope I installed it correctly). When I run the Installer from Kde, it makes nothing, but if I run from terminal window I get a very long list ended by an OK. I'm going to paste below the whole message, I hope somebody will help : oracle@linux:~ cd /cdrecorder oracle@linux:/cdrecorder ./runInstaller oracle@linux:/cdrecorder Initializing Java Virtual Machine from ../stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/bin/jre. Please wait... SIGSEGV received at bfffd994 in /cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/linux/native_threads/libjava.so. Processing terminated Wed Jul 18 17:06:53 2001 jre full version JDK 1.1.8 IBM build l118-2429 (JIT enabled: jitc) Operating Environment - Host : linux. OS Level : 2.2.18.#1 Mon Feb 5 17:56:44 GMT 2001 glibc Version : 2.2 No. of Procs : 1 Memory Info: total: used: free: shared: buffers: cached: Mem: 268017664 239714304 28303360 0 126836736 39231488 Swap: 115109888 0 115109888 MemTotal: 261736 kB MemFree: 27640 kB MemShared: 0 kB Buffers: 123864 kB Cached: 38312 kB BigTotal: 0 kB BigFree: 0 kB SwapTotal: 112412 kB SwapFree: 112412 kB User Limits (in bytes except for NOFILE and NPROC) - RLIMIT_FSIZE : infinity RLIMIT_DATA : infinity RLIMIT_STACK : 2093056 RLIMIT_CORE : 0 RLIMIT_NOFILE : 1024 RLIMIT_NPROC : 1024 Application Environment --- Signal Handlers - SIGQUIT : ignored SIGILL : sysThreadIDump (libjava.so) SIGABRT : sysThreadIDump (libjava.so) SIGFPE : sysThreadIDump (libjava.so) SIGBUS : sysThreadIDump (libjava.so) SIGSEGV : sysThreadIDump (libjava.so) SIGPIPE : ignored SIGUSR1 : doSuspendLoop (libjava.so) Environment Variables - PWD=/cdrecorder/install LTDL_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/oracle/.kde2/lib:/opt/kde2/lib konq_sm_file=/opt/kde2/share/config/SuSE/config/konqueror:1054d0ebe29756685240014220002 PAGER=less GLX_NO_DIRECT=t HOSTNAME=linux LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/linux/native_threads:/lib:/usr/lib:/opt/kde/lib:/home/oracle/.kde2/lib:/opt/kde2/lib LS_OPTIONS=-N --color=tty -T 0 ignoreeof=0 KDEDIRS=/etc/opt/kde2:/opt/kde2 KDEHOME=/home/oracle/.kde2 POVRAYOPT=-l/usr/lib/povray/include SUSE_DOC_HOST=localhost QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt OPENWINHOME=/usr/openwin D=32 CLASSPATH=/tmp/OraInstall0:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/OraInstaller.jar:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/InstImages.jar:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/InstHelp.jar:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/oracleice.jar:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/help.jar:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/ewt.jar:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/xmlparser.jar:../stage/Components/oracle.swd.oui/1.7.0.18.0A/1/DataFiles/Expanded/lib/swingaccess.jar:/cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/rt.jar:/cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/i18n.jar:/cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/math.jar:/cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/classes.zip LESSKEY=/etc/lesskey.bin LESSOPEN=|lesspipe.sh %s MANPATH=/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/man:/usr/X11R6/man:/usr/openwin/man LANGUAGE=hungarian NNTPSERVER=news KDEDIR=/opt/kde LESS=-M -S -I USER=oracle LS_COLORS= HISTCONTROL=ignoredups XSESSION_IS_UP=yes THREADS_TYPE=native_threads MACHTYPE=i386-suse-linux XKEYSYMDB=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XKeysymDB THREADS_FLAG=native LANG=hu_HU GNOMEDIR=/opt/gnome JAVA_HOME=/cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux COLORTERM=1 X=1024 INFOPATH=/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info Y=768 DISPLAY=:0 LOGNAME=oracle SHLVL=3 TEXINPUTS=~/.TeX:/usr/share/doc/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX:~/.TeX:/usr/share/doc/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX:~/.TeX:/usr/share/doc/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX:~/.TeX:/usr/share/doc/.TeX:/usr/doc/.TeX MINICOM=-c on INFODIR=/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info:/usr/info SESSION_MANAGER=local/linux:/tmp/.ICE-unix/667 KDE_INITIAL_DESKTOP=1 SHELL=/bin/bash PRINTER=lp HOSTTYPE=i386 QT_XFT=Y OSTYPE=linux WINDOWMANAGER=/usr/X11R6/bin/kde HOME=/home/oracle TERM=kvt XNLSPATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/nls no_proxy=localhost PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/bin:/home/zsolti/kylix/bin:/home/zsolti/kylix/lib:/usr/lib/java/bin:/usr/games/bin:/usr/games:/opt/gnome/bin:/opt/kde2/bin:/opt/kde/bin:. LESSCHARSET=latin1 FROM_HEADER=YAST_ASK LC_COLLATE=POSIX LIBPATH=/cdrecorder/stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/lib/linux
Oracle and Linux - OTN Article
Here's a great article for installing Oracle on Linux for all you unix wannabes. :) http://www.oracle.com/oramag/oracle/01-may/index.html?o31linux.html Jared -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jared Still INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: Oracle on Linux questions
I have had good luck with Red Hat Linux 6.2 and Oracle 8.1.6.1 for Linux. You don't need to do any upgrades to Linux before installing Oracle, you don't have to download your own Java virtual machine, and you don't have to install any Oracle patches to make it work (as I had to with Oracle 8.1.5). On Metalink under Product Lifecycle there is a list of Linux distributions and versions that are certified with the different versions of Oracle server for Linux. I have heard good things about SuSe Linux also, including the fact that they have created a package (RPM) that does much of the Oracle setup for you including providing scripts for database startup and shutdown. As far as Linux books, there are several. I have the O'Reilly book, "Running Linux". The lastest versions of most Unix books now cover Linux as well. HTH, Dean Jefferson Database Administrator State of Wisconsin Office of Commissioner of Insurance [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Jefferson, Dean INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California-- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
