SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ



This is interesting:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020403/sfw026_1.html

Ken Janusz, CPIM


Re: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Igor Neyman



Consider the source.

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RE: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

I bet following variable is set in the test

_ignore_downtime_cost=true;
_ignore_reboots_cost=true;


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Re: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Gene Sais

yeah but it was written by MS.

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RE: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)



The 
Walklett Group, the author of the paper cited,
is a 
consulting/services company and has Microsoft
listed 
on their "Alliances" web page, although the 
exact 
nature of the relationship is not defined.

The 
paper makes a number of assumptions that I
would 
question.

After 
reading it, I do not find it to be a persuasive
arguement in favor of the solution 
recommended
(microsoft SQL Server on a Unisys 
box).

read 
the white paper for yourself at 
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/WalklettAnalysis.pdf

Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]If C gives you engouth rope to hang yourself, then C++ 
givesyou enough rope to hang yourself, your dog, your co-workers,and 
everyone in your neighborhood. 

-Original Message-From: KENNETH JANUSZ 
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AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: SQL 
Server vs. Oracle 9i
This is interesting:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020403/sfw026_1.html

Ken Janusz, CPIM


RE: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Grabowy, Chris



But a 
clueless CIO or IT Director might be persuaded...and that is the problem. 
Even more so, when the IT budget is tight...and when is the IT budget not 
tight??

  -Original Message-From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 
  11:23 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i
  The 
  Walklett Group, the author of the paper cited,
  is a 
  consulting/services company and has Microsoft
  listed on their "Alliances" web page, although the 
  
  exact nature of the relationship is not 
  defined.
  
  The 
  paper makes a number of assumptions that I
  would question.
  
  After reading it, I do not find it to be a 
  persuasive
  arguement in favor of the solution 
  recommended
  (microsoft SQL Server on a Unisys 
  box).
  
  read 
  the white paper for yourself at 
  http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/compare/WalklettAnalysis.pdf
  
  Matt Adams - GE Appliances - 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]If C gives you engouth rope to hang yourself, then 
  C++ givesyou enough rope to hang yourself, your dog, your 
  co-workers,and everyone in your neighborhood. 
  
  -Original Message-From: KENNETH JANUSZ 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:04 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: SQL 
  Server vs. Oracle 9i
  This is interesting:
  
  http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020403/sfw026_1.html
  
  Ken Janusz, CPIM


Re: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Rajesh . Rao


And I charge less than Steve Adams or Jonathan Lewis (3.5 times lesser),
for 'comparable' features (could be physical). So, hire me, and Save a
million in 5 years.

Who buys that? ;-)

Raj




   
 
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yeah but it was written by MS.

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Re: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Tim Gorman



It's fascinating when somebody proclaims "50% 
savings in TCO over a 5 year period" when it is patently obvious that 
A)such aconfiguration has not existed over the past five years and 
B) it will never exist over any contiguous five year period. The lifecycle 
of systems doesn't happen that way.

Back in the 1980s when the US space shuttle 
"Challenger" explosion was being investigated by a panel of eminent politicians, 
lawyers, and scientists, Nobel-laureate physicist Richard Feynmannsingled 
outNASA testimony stating that the "Challenger" explosion could only 
happen in 1 out of 100,000 launches.

Noting that US space shuttles had been 
launchedabout 50-60 times up to that point, he asked how anyone could 
possiblyproject odds of "1 out of 100,000", never mind try to pass it off 
as "fact".

When I read about TCO on a configurationgoing 
forward5 years, I wonder if those people are on-call and wearing pagers, 
or whether they know anybody who is...

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  KENNETH JANUSZ 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:03 
  AM
  Subject: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i
  
  This is interesting:
  
  http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020403/sfw026_1.html
  
  Ken Janusz, CPIM


Re: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread Bill Conner

Hi Tim,
Nice to see you here
-bill
At 01:03 PM 4/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:
It's
fascinating when somebody proclaims 50% savings in TCO over a 5
year period when it is patently obvious that A) such a
configuration has not existed over the past five years and B) it will
never exist over any contiguous five year period. The lifecycle of
systems doesn't happen that way.

Back in the 1980s when the US space shuttle
Challenger explosion was being investigated by a panel of
eminent politicians, lawyers, and scientists, Nobel-laureate physicist
Richard Feynmann singled out NASA testimony stating that the
Challenger explosion could only happen in 1 out of 100,000
launches.

Noting that US space shuttles had been launched
about 50-60 times up to that point, he asked how anyone could possibly
project odds of 1 out of 100,000, never mind try to pass it
off as fact.

When I read about TCO on a configuration going
forward 5 years, I wonder if those people are on-call and wearing pagers,
or whether they know anybody who is...

- Original Message - 
From: KENNETH JANUSZ 
To: Multiple recipients of
list ORACLE-L 
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:03 AM
Subject: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

This is interesting:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020403/sfw026_1.html

Ken Janusz, CPIM



Re: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

2002-04-03 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ



Just think of what the savings would be over a 50 year period! 
WOW!

Ken

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tim Gorman 
  
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:03 
  PM
  Subject: Re: SQL Server vs. Oracle 
  9i
  
  It's fascinating when somebody proclaims "50% 
  savings in TCO over a 5 year period" when it is patently obvious that 
  A)such aconfiguration has not existed over the past five years and 
  B) it will never exist over any contiguous five year period. The 
  lifecycle of systems doesn't happen that way.
  
  Back in the 1980s when the US space shuttle 
  "Challenger" explosion was being investigated by a panel of eminent 
  politicians, lawyers, and scientists, Nobel-laureate physicist Richard 
  Feynmannsingled outNASA testimony stating that the "Challenger" 
  explosion could only happen in 1 out of 100,000 launches.
  
  Noting that US space shuttles had been 
  launchedabout 50-60 times up to that point, he asked how anyone could 
  possiblyproject odds of "1 out of 100,000", never mind try to pass it 
  off as "fact".
  
  When I read about TCO on a 
  configurationgoing forward5 years, I wonder if those people are 
  on-call and wearing pagers, or whether they know anybody who 
is...
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
KENNETH JANUSZ 

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:03 
AM
Subject: SQL Server vs. Oracle 9i

This is interesting:

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/020403/sfw026_1.html

Ken Janusz, 
CPIM