Re: MTS IS CONFIGURED BUT STILL DEDICATED CONNECTIONS USED

2001-07-25 Thread Christian Trassens

Probably your clients or the users have in their
sqlnet.ora the parameter use_dedicated_server=TRUE or
in the entry of the tnsnames.ora a clause like
(SERVER=DEDICATED).

Also issue an netstat to see if everything is alright.
If you find any problem with the ports of the
dispatchers, try forcing them in the parameter
mts_dispatcher.

Regards.


--- Harvinder Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have configured the server to use MTS and still
 dedicated connections r
 used.
 What might be the reasondatabase is 8.1.6.3.4
 
 
 
 LSNRCTL services
 Connecting to
 (DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=IPC)(KEY=EXTPROC0)))
 Services Summary...
   ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
   PLSExtProchas 1 service handler(s)
 DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
   LOCAL SERVER
   ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
 DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0
 max:1022 state:ready
   D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  
 (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
   ora2000   has 1 service handler(s)
 DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
   LOCAL SERVER
   ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
 DEDICATED SERVER established:76 refused:0
   LOCAL SERVER
 The command completed successfully
 
 
 init.ora looks like:
 
 mts_dispatchers = TCP,5
 mts_max_dispatchers=50 
 mts_servers=20  
 mts_max_servers=50 
 LOCAL_LISTENER = (ADDRESS_LIST = (Address =
 (Protocol = TCP) (Host=ora2000)
 (Port=1521))) 
 
 
 Thanks
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RE: constraint naming

2001-07-25 Thread Guy Hammond

That's precisely the point - we have a bunch of system-generated names
that we'd like to change to meaningful names...

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g,
Why use system generated FK names. does SYS12345 maen any thing to you?
We always generate our FK with an ALTER TABLE command and name the FK
with something that can be recognized. Very usefull when you have to
drop the FK to accomplish an import of data.
ROR mª¿ªm

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Is there a way to change thy system-generated names for foreign key
constraints to something sensible without invoking Deep Magic?

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4 drives, 2 controller ( 3 drives on the SAME controller !)

2001-07-25 Thread Rahul

list,
in my rs/6000, i found the following...

# lsdev -Cc adapter
ascsi0 Available 00-06Wide SCSI I/O Controller Adapter
ascsi1 Available 00-07Wide SCSI I/O Controller Adapter

# lsdev -Cc disk
hdisk0 Available 00-06-B1-2,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk1 Available 00-07-A1-3,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk2 Available 00-07-A1-4,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk3 Available 00-07-A1-5,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive

from the above i can conclude that adapter 06 is controlling hdisk0
and adapter 07 is controlling the other 3 drives..

if the above deduction is correct , then all the three drives are 
sharing the same IO channel , right ?

what kind of effort is required to ammend the above config ? 
( TWO drives on ONE controller ) 

Regards



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RE: Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K)

2001-07-25 Thread O'Neill, Sean

Mark,

RCMD from the Resource Kit for NT4, and presumably for W2K, might provide a
solution.  I have not used it myself so can't comment on it's operation etc.


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Hi all,

Has anybody come across a way of starting the Oracle services (or indeed
any
service) on a Win2K box remotely from another Win2K machine?

I would be interested in your insight if you have..
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latch free waits on LIBRARY CACHE latch and bind variables

2001-07-25 Thread John Dunn

Can someone please explain how to monitor latch free waits on LIBRARY cache
and provide examples of using bind variables. THE PL/SQL reference does not
seem to make much reference to bind varaiables

John


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statement for directory objects

2001-07-25 Thread Beatriz Martínez Jiménez

Hello List,
I would like to know any statement to know which 'object directory'
exists in the oracle instance, for a specified user.
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Capacity of LONG datatype

2001-07-25 Thread VIVEK_SHARMA


How many Characters(Alphanumeric) can be inserted into a Field of
Datatype LONG ?

Why ?


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OT: Micsoft Technically Correct

2001-07-25 Thread Rajesh Dayal

A helicopter was flying around above Seattle when an electrical
malfunction disabled all of the aircraft's electronic navigation and
communications equipment. Due to the clouds and haze, the pilot could
not determine the helicopter's position. The pilot saw a tall building,
flew toward it, circled, and held up a handwritten sign that said 'WHERE
AM I?' in large letters. People in the tall building quickly responded
to the aircraft, drew a large sign, and held it in a building window.
Their sign said 'YOU ARE IN A HELICOPTER.' The pilot smiled, waved,
looked at his map, determined the course to steer to SEATAC airport, and
landed safely. After they were on the ground, the copilot asked the
pilot how he had done it.

I knew it had to be the Microsoft Building, because they gave me a
technically correct but completely useless answer. 
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urgent..! ANSI Standard SQL for Outer Join (ORACLE SQL SERVER)

2001-07-25 Thread Rangachari Sundar

Dear All,

Can anyone of you help me for the following.

I want to give a generalized SQL syntax for Outer Join for both oracle  SQL
server.  Can I use ANSI Syntax say for example

select empno, ename
from emp
join dept on emp.deptno = dept.deptno (Something like this)

Bye
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severe lib cache contention !!

2001-07-25 Thread Rahul

list,
i just ported a system to 8.1.5, the application DOES NOT  make use
of bind variables, each and every query (fired from 8 clients every 2-3
seconds) 
parses and executes, this keeps the shared pool patch also very busy...

i cannot tune the app, is there something i can do to reduce the lib cache
and shared pool
latch contention ??

v$session_wait show all sessions waiting on latch free 

the sleeps in lib cache latch are not properly spread out also...

SQL select * from v$latch_children where latch#=99 order by 8

CHILD#GETSMISSESSLEEPS
--
 1  209093   149   117
 5  283185   602   221
 6  304797   616   264
 7  583061  3354  1417
 4 2697205191099 33858
 211636488   8683396980522
 360982875  47012872   8777649

Interestingly, the same app was NOT showing any contention on these latches
in 7.3.2 !!

how can i solve this problem ?

TIA

Rahul






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Re: 4 drives, 2 controller ( 3 drives on the SAME controller

2001-07-25 Thread Peter McLarty

Rahul

You may need to rebuild the system completely depending on what is 
currently on those disks.

On the other hand if you are using something similar to the HP Logical 
Volume Manger then you may be able to drop that volume out with out 
deleting the contents and when you reboot the system and run the tool it 
will recognize that there is a valid filesystem on that disk and simply 
create the necessary files and make the data available.

HTH

Peter

At 06:45 PM 25/07/2001, you wrote:
list,
in my rs/6000, i found the following...

# lsdev -Cc adapter
ascsi0 Available 00-06Wide SCSI I/O Controller Adapter
ascsi1 Available 00-07Wide SCSI I/O Controller Adapter

# lsdev -Cc disk
hdisk0 Available 00-06-B1-2,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk1 Available 00-07-A1-3,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk2 Available 00-07-A1-4,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk3 Available 00-07-A1-5,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive

from the above i can conclude that adapter 06 is controlling hdisk0
and adapter 07 is controlling the other 3 drives..

if the above deduction is correct , then all the three drives are
sharing the same IO channel , right ?

what kind of effort is required to ammend the above config ?
( TWO drives on ONE controller )

Regards



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RE: Capacity of LONG datatype

2001-07-25 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

Character data of variable length up to 2 gig.  The length of LONG datatype
values may be limited by the memory available on your computer.

Dave

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How many Characters(Alphanumeric) can be inserted into a Field of
Datatype LONG ?

Why ?


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Re: waits on sequential scans - how did i solve it

2001-07-25 Thread Igor Neyman

Jack,

I was going to suggest, what you did, but then I noticed the version Rahul
was using.

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 Igor,

 How right you are!  I answered without looking back at Rahul's original
 message.

 Jack

 
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 I don't think, 7.3.2 supports Index-Organized tables.

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  Rahul,
 
  If I'd known that there were only 8 columns in the table, I'd have
 included
  the recommendation to investigate an Index-Organized Table.  That is
where
  the table IS the index and the index IS the table.  This saves disc
space
  and cuts I/O in half for DML on the table, since a separate index is not
  maintained.  Check out the docs on IOTs.
 
  Jack
 
  
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  list, based on the recommendation of posters (Jack) ,
  i re-created the index with all the columns of a table ! (all 8 of them)
  analyzed the table/index and now all the queries are satisfied off an
  indexed
  range scan..
 
  i also put the indexes on raw devices.
 
  regards
 
 
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   Subject: RE: how to improve sequential scans ?
  
   Rahul,
  
   Could this table be partitioned and the partitions spread across
 multiple
   disks?  Could the index be partitioned as well?  The concept here is,
of
   course, divide and conquer.
  
   Could a column or two (or three) be added to the index to satisfy the
   query
   without having to hit the table?
  
   How frequently are these literal queries being issued?  Are they
 shredding
   your shared pool and chewing up CPU by making Oracle do extra work in
   shared
   pool memory management?
  
   Are there aggregation (vs aggravation g) functions or order bys in
the
   queries that might be causing sorts to disk?  If aggregation, could
you
   use
   materialized views to satisfy the queries?
  
   ...just a few ideas.
  
   Jack
  
   
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   list (AIX, 7.3.2)
  
   5 clients are shooting the same sql to read data from an 18 million
rows
   table.
   each time the sql uses a different literal value in the where
clause...
 no
   bind variables.
  
   I CANNOT TOUCH THE APPLICATION, and have been given the task to
   re-configure
   the
   DB to increase performance.
  
   i have moved the table and it;s associated index to separate disks.
and
   iostat show that
   only that only those two disks are being read.
  
   the session wait show that all the times the sessions are waiting on
   db file sequential read
  
   the db file being sequentially read in the above sessiion is the TABLE
   from
   which
   all the sid's are reading
  
   the table is analyzed and the sql's issued use the index.
  
   how can i further tune this config. ?
  
   TIA
  
   Rahul
  
   PS: my next step is to put the files on raw disks.
  
 

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Re: urgent..! ANSI Standard SQL for Outer Join (ORACLE SQL SERVER)

2001-07-25 Thread Igor Neyman

Why don't you try it?

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 Dear All,

 Can anyone of you help me for the following.

 I want to give a generalized SQL syntax for Outer Join for both oracle 
SQL
 server.  Can I use ANSI Syntax say for example

 select empno, ename
 from emp
 join dept on emp.deptno = dept.deptno (Something like this)

 Bye
 Sundar

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RE: books on data modelling

2001-07-25 Thread Tirumala, Surendra

Thanks for all replies.

Suren

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Handbook of Relational Database Design by Candace C. Fleming and Barbara
von Halle is pretty solid.Not sure if its still in print or not though.

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Richard Barker wrote a good book (Data Modelling) . There are also a few
good 
books from James Martin, who has his own method for doing the data
modelling. 
Also, any half way decent UML manual should explain the basics of the data
modelling. Last, but not least, the books to read are Catch-22 by Joseph
Heller,
Doug Adamses Hitchiker's Guide to Galaxy and Heinlein's Stranger in the 
Strange Land. Without having read the last 3 books, one cannot grokk the
depths
of the data modelling.



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 Hello All,
 
 I have been in the lookout for a good and comprehensive book on data
 modelling
 so that I can enhance my knowledge in this area.
 I am not finding anything related in online Oracle documentation.
 Please suggest me..
 
 Thanks in Advance,
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RE: Information about User-defined Locks

2001-07-25 Thread Jon Walthour



Listers:

Solved my own problem and thought I would share the solution
with you all.

To find the name of a user-defined lock:

SELECT   s.sid
   , s.serial#
   , DECODE(
  s.process
, NULL, DECODE(SUBSTR(p.username, 1, 1), '?', UPPER(s.osuser),
p.username)
, DECODE(p.username, 'oracusr ', LOWER(s.osuser),
s.process)) AS process
   , NVL(s.username, 'SYS (' || LOWER(bg.name) || ')') AS
username
   , DECODE(s.username, NULL, ' ', DECODE(s.terminal, NULL,
RTRIM(LOWER(p.terminal), CHR(0)), LOWER(s.terminal))) AS terminal
   , 'UL' as type
   , DECODE(l.lmode, 0, 'none', 1, 'null', 2, 'RS', 3, 'RX',
4, 'S', 5, 'SRX', 6, 'X', TO_CHAR(l.lmode)) AS lmode
   , DECODE(l.request, 0, 'none', 1, 'null', 2, 'RS', 3,
'RX', 4, 'S', 5, 'SRX', 6, 'X', TO_CHAR(l.request)) AS lrequest
   , 'lock name: ' || la.name || ', expiration date: ' ||
TO_CHAR(la.expiration, 'DD-MON-RR HH24:MI:SS') as detail
FROM sys.v_$lock l
   , sys.v_$session s
   , sys.v_$process p
   , sys.v_$bgprocess bg
   , sys.dbms_lock_allocated la
   WHERE l.sid = s.sid
 AND s.paddr = bg.paddr(+)
 AND s.paddr = p.addr(+)
 AND l.id1 = la.lockid(+)
 AND l.type = 'UL';

Thanks, everyone, for your continued help through this forum.

Jon Walthour


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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Christopher Spence

What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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IOUG 2002 call for papers already.


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Re: severe lib cache contention !!

2001-07-25 Thread ARUN K C

Set your time_statistics=false i think this is a bug in 8.1.5 we had the 
same issue.
and also I am not sure whether you can set cursor_sharing=force in 8.1.5 if 
yes try this out this will convert all the literals to bind variables


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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 04:35:25 -0800

list,
i just ported a system to 8.1.5, the application DOES NOT  make use
of bind variables, each and every query (fired from 8 clients every 2-3
seconds)
parses and executes, this keeps the shared pool patch also very busy...

i cannot tune the app, is there something i can do to reduce the lib cache
and shared pool
latch contention ??

v$session_wait show all sessions waiting on latch free

the sleeps in lib cache latch are not properly spread out also...

SQL select * from v$latch_children where latch#=99 order by 8

CHILD#GETSMISSESSLEEPS
--
  1  209093   149   117
  5  283185   602   221
  6  304797   616   264
  7  583061  3354  1417
  4 2697205191099 33858
  211636488   8683396980522
  360982875  47012872   8777649

Interestingly, the same app was NOT showing any contention on these latches
in 7.3.2 !!

how can i solve this problem ?

TIA

Rahul






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RE: retrieving BLOB column..

2001-07-25 Thread Guy Hammond



I 
don't remember in ODBC/OLEDB, but in JDBC there's quite a nice streams interface 
to CLOBs. You open the CLOB, then just read it as any other stream, for example 
as if it were a disk file, using the CLOB as a handle rather than a file 
descriptor. 

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  retrieving BLOB column..
  hi all,
  
  do any one tell me how can i 
  retrieve from a blob column. these will be displayed in browser through asp 
  page.
  r there any functions used to 
  retrieved records(jpg files, gif) from a blob.
  
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Re: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Brian McGraw

Depends on if it's a user-defined exception or not.  : )

Seriously, I presented for the first time at IOUG-A 2001.  I submitted a topic
by the deadline date, which contained a brief ( 250 words, I believe) synopsis
of what I wanted to speak about.  The accept/reject decision is made from that
information.  After that, I was given a deadline to submit a white paper on the
topic, and another topic to submit a Powerpoint presentation.  The conference
was in April, and I believe that the paper deadline was in Jan., and the ppt
deadline was in March.

Overall, I had a great time.  I'm probably going to try and do it again.  All
the details should be available somewhere on http://www.ioug.org.

Brian

Christopher Spence wrote:

 What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

 Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
 both are frozen.

 Christopher R. Spence
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RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread David Wagoner

You can use Materialized Views in Oracle 8i to load data from one database
to another (via the DB link) either manually or at scheduled intervals.


David

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I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an Oracle
database on NT platform.  What I've come up with so far is:
[1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
[2] SQL Loader utility
[3] Import utility

Are there others?
Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
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UNIX SCRIPT ISSUE - URGENT

2001-07-25 Thread Johan Muller

I need to extract the first 16 bytes of a filename (AIX 4.3) which consists of
an IP address (nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn), and move that to first 16 positions in the
file itself, plus adding a pipe (|) sign for a delimiter, and save the IP
address as a file name with a .dat extension, before loading the contents into
a table.

My predecessor concocted the following:

#!/usr/bin/ksh
 FN=$1
 IP=`echo $FN|cut -c1-16`
 sed s/Report by Hosts/$IP| Report by Hosts/ $FN  newfile.dat
 #-- End of file

which is great for a single file at a time.

Right now I have to perform this surgery on 19 986 files, which is in one
place.
Using the script above would take me over 20 000 hours.

Any way I can grab the files one at the time based on a ls command, and invoke
the script, and to end up when the last file has been processed.

ALTERNATIVE:

Each file contains the IP address which has to move into the first position
after a string on line 13 which you guessed it: is called 'IP Address:'. Is
their a way vi could be used to achieve the same result?

Any input would be appreciated,


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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Hillman, Alex

Maybe some spelling errors in the abstract -:)

Alex Hillman

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What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
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IOUG 2002 call for papers already.


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RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Data load options





Hi Sean, 


Others have given you different options. Here's some considerations:


1. SQL Script. 

Can be SLOW 
May require intermittent commits in your script
Manual and error prone
Must go through SQL engine


2. SQL Loader

Can be very fast (direct - bypassing SQL engine). 
Direct path load will invalidate indexes. 
You can keep track of rejected records easily (.bad file)
Dependent upon your file format being EXACT, no errors.


3. Import

Requires minimal manual fiddling
Can be very slow - I once imported 150GB and it took ~3 days
Does not seamlessly handle all object types (INtermedia (domain) indexes is one example)
Restarting an import will take a lot longer. If your import fails, be sure and truncate/drop all tables before starting again. 
Have the option of not including indexes (INDEXES=N)
Can also reset your storage parms prior to import (export with data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new storage parms / import, export with data=y, import data with IGNORE=Y)


I'm sure others will have additional considerations to share. My choice has always been exp/imp. 


Lisa Koivu
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Subject: Data load options


I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an Oracle
database on NT platform. What I've come up with so far is:
[1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
[2] SQL Loader utility
[3] Import utility


Are there others?
Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
methods?



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Re:Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread dgoulet

Sean,

Depends on what the data is, volume thereof, do you need real time loading,
etc...  We use to use SQL*Loader, but found a lot of problems scrubbing bad data
from our testers during the load process as well as other problems. 
Consequently we now use Pro*C exclusively.

Dick Goulet

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I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an Oracle
database on NT platform.  What I've come up with so far is:
[1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
[2] SQL Loader utility
[3] Import utility

Are there others?
Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
methods?


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Dangerous AIX Bug!

2001-07-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

...just kidding, thought that would get your attention. 

But seriously:  does anyone out there use Oracle 8i on AIX 4.3 or 5L?

I'd like to chat w/you if so.

Thanks!

- Ross

p.s.  hmmm...maybe there *is* a bug in AIX and that's one of
the things I'll learn:-)

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Ron,

I've attached one that I also got from the list some time ago, you may need
to use something like bablefish to translate the comments :)

HTH

Mark

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Last week I was bit by a corrupt block on an index.  I run Analyze every
week which I found has been blowing up for some time due to the block
corruption.  Since Analyze does not create a log I did not know the Analyze
was blowing up.  Now I know that there are messages in the alert log that
would have told me I had problems with the Analyze and the index.

To make a long story short I need a good log scan script.  Hopefully one
that will work on Unix and NT.  Mainly Unix.  If anyone can help I would
appreciate it.

Thanks!
Ron
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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael

to submit a paper, you just need an idea, a title and an abstract. The 
abstract needs to be somewhat catchy, the idea should be relevant and 
something that might interest attendees (anything on version 6, Oracle7 or 
Oracle8 is not a good idea G).

To be accepted (to be excepted would be to be left out or excluded, you can 
do THAT by not submitting an abstract)  -- when you learn the secret please 
tell me.

I believe that the selection is not blind -- in that the selection committee 
members know the name of the presenter for the abstracts they read. So 
speakers who have presented before and gotten good ratings will be most 
likely to be asked back. But there are always new speakers each year as 
well.  Some people (like Gaja) are in the you have been accepted, now what 
are you presenting category, in that they are KNOWN to be excellent 
speakers who draw standing room only crowds in the largest rooms.

Rachel


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What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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IOUG 2002 call for papers already.


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RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Guidry, Chris

Hi,
COPY command.

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 [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
 [2] SQL Loader utility
 [3] Import utility
 
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 Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
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RE: Need SQL Example

2001-07-25 Thread Yadav, Shailesh

Ethan,

  Is it possible for you to use your function instead of decode? I guess
that way you can evaluate situations wherein decode would not work. That way
you could have it work on older versions of Oracle.

Shailesh

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Anyone got a good example of flipping a range of values into columner
buckets.  I have done this in the past but my solutions always seem so
convoluted, it seems I have seen more elegant examples in the past.  I want
to use decode so it will run on older versions of Oracle. 

Pseudo Example:

select
   sum(decode(if value between 0 and 64 then return 1 else 0))
count_of_this_bucket,
   sum(decode(if value between 65 and 128 then return 1 else 0))
count_of_this_bucket,...
from
   table

Thanks,
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OCI

2001-07-25 Thread Ramon Estevez
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Hi,

Does anyone know about the Oracle Certified 
Instructor program. I looked in the Oracle site and didn't found 
anything.

Regards



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Re: urgent..! ANSI Standard SQL for Outer Join (ORACLE SQL SERVER)

2001-07-25 Thread Jonathan Gennick

Hello Rangachari,

Oracle9i supports the ANSI join syntax. I just finished an
article on it that should appear in the Nov/Dec (I think)
issue of Oracle Magazine.

Best regards,

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Wednesday, July 25, 2001, 8:35:24 AM, you wrote:
RS Dear All,

RS Can anyone of you help me for the following.

RS I want to give a generalized SQL syntax for Outer Join for both oracle  SQL
RS server.  Can I use ANSI Syntax say for example

RS select empno, ename
RS from emp
RS join dept on emp.deptno = dept.deptno (Something like this)

RS Bye
RS Sundar

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Re[2]: Information about User-defined Locks

2001-07-25 Thread dgoulet

Jon,

User defined locks do not lock anything, except a very small chunk of the
SGA, part of the shared pool.  Now the question is: is the procedure hanging
while holding the UL or while trying to acquire the UL?  A UL must be acquired
by using the DBMS_LOCK package, namely the ALLOCATE_UNIQUE and REQUEST
procedure/functions.  Therefore there must be a snippet of code like the
following somewhere in the procedure:

BEGIN
   DBMS_LOCK.ALLOCATE_UNIQUE(:server_lock_name, :server_lock_handle);
   :server_lock_allocate := DBMS_LOCK.REQUEST (:server_lock_handle,
   DBMS_LOCK.X_MODE,1,
   FALSE);
END;

If you can find the lock request code, look around to see if there is a
DBMS_LOCK.CONVERT statement afterwards, which could cause the problem, or what
other objects is the procedure trying to get at that may have been locked from
elsewhere.

Dick Goulet

PS: You may find that the amount of time the REQUEST function is set to is
'infinity' namely 86400 seconds which is the default.  If so put something
reasonable in there and then check the status returned.  In the example the
amount of time I'll wait is 1 second.  Now IF I get the lock the
:server_lock_allocate = 0, else it = 1.

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 Jon,

Try doing the following, it should give you the information, you need :-

SELECT o.object_id, s.username, l.sid, object_name, 
 DECODE( l.type,
'MR', 'Media Recovery', 
'RT', 'Redo Thread',
'UN', 'User Name',  
'TX', 'Transaction',
'TM', 'DML',
'UL', 'PL/SQL User Lock',   
'DX', 'Distributed Xaction',
'CF', 'Control File',   
'IS', 'Instance State', 
'FS', 'File Set',   
'IR', 'Instance Recovery',  
'ST', 'Disk Space Transaction', 
'TS', 'Temp Segment',   
'IV', 'Library Cache Invalidation', 
'LS', 'Log Start or Switch',
'RW', 'Row Wait',   
'SQ', 'Sequence Number',
'TE', 'Extend Table',   
'TT', 'Temp Table', 
l.type ),   
DECODE( l.lmode,
 0, 'None', 
 1, 'Null', 
 2, 'Row-s (SS)',   
 3, 'Row-x (SX)',   
 4, 'Share',
 5, 'S/Row-X (SSX)',
 6, 'Exclusive',
 to_char(l.request))
  FROM  v$lock l, v$session s, dba_objects o
WHERE s.sid = l.sid and 
l.id1 = o.object_id(+) and  
username is not null
  ORDER BY username, l.sid  
/  


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 Jon Walthour wrote:
Listers:

I had an interesting question today that I cannot find the answer for, but
would love to know about.

A developer came to me today and asked how we could find the object that was
being locked by a User-defined lock (UL). He works with Oracle Clinical and in
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UL's id1 and id2 do not provide useful information to this end; both parameters
are application dependent. So, where else can I turn?

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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: RE: OT, WOW really early





For those of you who have been speakers before, 
there appears to be a new wrinkle in the 
submission process. They now want an outline of
the presentation submitted along with the 
abstract. I don't remember submitting an outline
for past conferences.



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Re: Metablink .... down again?

2001-07-25 Thread Thater, William

Guy Hammond wrote:
 
 Is there a web site where we can submit bug reports for MetaLink
 itself?!

yes you can submit an iTAR on metalink.;-)


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Re: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread tday6

My experience with getting data into Oracle on an NT platform.

If a small number of rows are being inserted or updated, use an application
or SQL script.

If the data already exists in some form outside of Oracle, transform the
data into some form of a flat file and use SQL*Loader.

If the data already exists in another Oracle database, export it and import
it into your database (gotta be careful about tablespaces, schemas and not
messing up existing data but that goes with the territory).

Other methods include loading it into Access or some other MS product and
using an ODBC connection to update Oracle.  I've seen that used for
everything from single row updates to medium sized (10M) bulk loads.



   
 
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I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an Oracle
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[1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
[2] SQL Loader utility
[3] Import utility

Are there others?
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methods?


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MTS IS CONFIGURED BUT STILL DEDICATED CONNECTIONS USED

2001-07-25 Thread Harvinder Singh


Hi,

I have configured the server to use MTS and still dedicated connections r
used.
What might be the reasondatabase is 8.1.6.3.4



LSNRCTL services
Connecting to (DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=IPC)(KEY=EXTPROC0)))
Services Summary...
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  PLSExtProchas 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  ora2000   has 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:76 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
The command completed successfully


init.ora looks like:

mts_dispatchers = TCP,5
mts_max_dispatchers=50 
mts_servers=20  
mts_max_servers=50 
LOCAL_LISTENER = (ADDRESS_LIST = (Address = (Protocol = TCP) (Host=ora2000)
(Port=1521))) 


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RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Johan Muller

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 Hi Sean, 
 
 Others have given you different options.  Here's some considerations: 
 
 1.  SQL Script. 
 
 
 * Can be SLOW 
 
 * May require intermittent commits in your script 
 
 * Manual and error prone 
 
 * Must go through SQL engine 
 
 
 2.  SQL Loader 
 
 
 * Can be very fast (direct - bypassing SQL engine). 
 
 * Direct path load will invalidate indexes. 
 
 * You can keep track of rejected records easily (.bad file) 
 
 * Dependent upon your file format being EXACT, no errors. 
 
 
 3.  Import 
 
 
 * Requires minimal manual fiddling 
 
 * Can be very slow - I once imported 150GB and it took ~3 days 
 
 * Does not seamlessly handle all object types (INtermedia (domain)
 indexes is one example) 
 
 * Restarting an import will take a lot longer.  If your import fails,
 be sure and truncate/drop all tables before starting again. 
 
 * Have the option of not including indexes (INDEXES=N) 
 
 * Can also reset your storage parms prior to import (export with
 data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new storage parms / import, export with
 data=y, import data with IGNORE=Y) 
 
 
 I'm sure others will have additional considerations to share.  My choice has
 always been exp/imp. 
 
 Lisa Koivu 
 The Vicodin-enhanced DBA 
 Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 
 
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 Sent:   Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:16 AM 
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   I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an
 Oracle 
 database on NT platform.  What I've come up with so far is: 
 [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates. 
 [2] SQL Loader utility 
 [3] Import utility 
 
   Are there others? 
 Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the 
 methods? 
 
 
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Re:RE: Information about User-defined Locks

2001-07-25 Thread dgoulet

Jon,

Your right, thanks.  But for the edification of others who may not be using
user defined locks today, here is the results of Jon's query from one of my DB's
that does use them:

   SIDSERIAL# PROCESS USERNAME   TERMINAL
-- -- --- -- --
TY LMODE
-- 
LREQUEST

DETAIL
---
45  39789 169:137 WORKENTRY  ora_upload
UL X
none
lock name: DlogSrv1, expiration date: 02-AUG-01 17:02:38

55  48632 81:67   WORKENTRY  ora_upload
UL X
none
lock name: DlogSrv0, expiration date: 02-AUG-01 17:02:37

Sorry about the mess this Lotus CCMail package makes of things.

Dick Goulet

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Listers:

Solved my own problem and thought I would share the solution
with you all.

To find the name of a user-defined lock:

SELECT   s.sid
   , s.serial#
   , DECODE(
  s.process
, NULL, DECODE(SUBSTR(p.username, 1, 1), '?', UPPER(s.osuser),
p.username)
, DECODE(p.username, 'oracusr ', LOWER(s.osuser),
s.process)) AS process
   , NVL(s.username, 'SYS (' || LOWER(bg.name) || ')') AS
username
   , DECODE(s.username, NULL, ' ', DECODE(s.terminal, NULL,
RTRIM(LOWER(p.terminal), CHR(0)), LOWER(s.terminal))) AS terminal
   , 'UL' as type
   , DECODE(l.lmode, 0, 'none', 1, 'null', 2, 'RS', 3, 'RX',
4, 'S', 5, 'SRX', 6, 'X', TO_CHAR(l.lmode)) AS lmode
   , DECODE(l.request, 0, 'none', 1, 'null', 2, 'RS', 3,
'RX', 4, 'S', 5, 'SRX', 6, 'X', TO_CHAR(l.request)) AS lrequest
   , 'lock name: ' || la.name || ', expiration date: ' ||
TO_CHAR(la.expiration, 'DD-MON-RR HH24:MI:SS') as detail
FROM sys.v_$lock l
   , sys.v_$session s
   , sys.v_$process p
   , sys.v_$bgprocess bg
   , sys.dbms_lock_allocated la
   WHERE l.sid = s.sid
 AND s.paddr = bg.paddr(+)
 AND s.paddr = p.addr(+)
 AND l.id1 = la.lockid(+)
 AND l.type = 'UL';

Thanks, everyone, for your continued help through this forum.

Jon Walthour


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RE: Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K)

2001-07-25 Thread Guidry, Chris

Mark,
If you have the Resource Kit you can also use NETSVC.EXE.

If you do not, you may download freely from microsoft the
Resource Kit Support Tools which contains SC.EXE.

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 Mark,
 
 RCMD from the Resource Kit for NT4, and presumably for W2K, might provide
 a
 solution.  I have not used it myself so can't comment on it's operation
 etc.
 
 
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  Subject: Starting Oracle services remotely (Win2K).
 
 Hi all,
 
 Has anybody come across a way of starting the Oracle services (or indeed
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 service) on a Win2K box remotely from another Win2K machine?
 
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Re: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Thater, William

Christopher Spence wrote:
 
 What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

brains, knowledge and skill?  or sheer luck?

all i have to depend on is the luck part.;-)  now to figure out if it's
good or bad.;-)


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RE: RE: Data Modeling opinion? Help?

2001-07-25 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Chris,

I don't think anyone is disagreeing with your evaluation of what SHOULD be
done (emphasis on purpose).

But, you have to deal with the people and politics of the client.  As I said
before, it sounds like something else is going on in the organization, and
someone decided to pull and end-around on you for some reason.

I would personally be more concerned about why they felt that they had to do
this to get their way.  Check your back, and make some friends (and maybe,
learn the art of compromise?  :)  )

Tom Mercadante
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Hmmm...when the spec is changed because of some business requirement then
that's fine.  But when it's changed because your own designers cant argue
the design on technical merit then what?  A spec should quote all the
business rules, and some high level details about the overall architecture
of the system.  But the spec shouldn't tell you that you will have these two
specific tables in the database, with these specific fields, etc.

In the end the contractor is ultimately responsible for the validity and
performance of the system that they deliver.  The contractor will never be
able to point back to some disclaimer and say We told you so.  It will be
next to impossible to point to the disclaimer when you start slipping the
schedule or when the performance is not quite there.

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Chris,

True, except when I as the customer change the specs.  Then what is
right is
what I say.  Or as a Program Management instructor told the class As it is
written, so let it be done.

Dick Goulet

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Date:   7/24/2001 9:48 AM

Exactly.  Which is why I am trying to change this now.

As for the previous comment, they do not pay me to beat them over the head,
BUT they do pay me to do what is right.  

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Yes, but ironically enough, its the consultant they ram to the ground after
it goes south, no matter how well you document that you recommended against
it.  

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Keep in mind that they pay you to advise them and to do what they want done.
They do not pay you to beat them over the head to do what is right.

Document to cya


 This is one of those cases where I would document your 
 concerns and the
 potential consequences thereof and submit that to damagement, 
 also keep a copy
 for yourself in the 'Pearl Harbor File'.  Then do as they 
 ask.  Yeah, I know
 it's dumb, but what are you as a consultant/contractor going to do?
 
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Re: UNIX SCRIPT ISSUE - URGENT

2001-07-25 Thread Larry Strickland

Since you have so many files, you are likely to hit problems with the line length of 
the various shells.  Assuming that all of the files are in the directory 
/usr/myfiles and that the script mentioned below is named cvtip, is executable and 
is in /usr/local/bin (or some other directory in the path), you could do the following:

$ cd /usr/myfiles
$ find . -type f -print | xargs cvtip

and that would do exactly what you want IF you modify the scipt as follows (this 
processes multiple files at the same invocation of the script):

#!/usr/bin/ksh
for FN
do
IP=`echo $FN|cut -c1-16`
mv $FN ${FN}.old
sed s/Report by Hosts/$IP| Report by Hosts/ ${FN}.old $FN
done

This modification processes multiple filenames on the command line.  It also assumes 
that the file exists in the current directory (which I don't like, but which I don't 
want to work around right now).  It first renames the file by tacking .old on the 
filename, then converts it as the previous script did and sends the output to the 
original filename (i.e., without the .old on the end)

Hope this helps,
larry


On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 06:26:12 -0800
Johan Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need to extract the first 16 bytes of a filename (AIX 4.3) which consists of
 an IP address (nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn), and move that to first 16 positions in the
 file itself, plus adding a pipe (|) sign for a delimiter, and save the IP
 address as a file name with a .dat extension, before loading the contents into
 a table.
 
 My predecessor concocted the following:
 
 #!/usr/bin/ksh
  FN=$1
  IP=`echo $FN|cut -c1-16`
  sed s/Report by Hosts/$IP| Report by Hosts/ $FN  newfile.dat
  #-- End of file
 
 which is great for a single file at a time.
 
 Right now I have to perform this surgery on 19 986 files, which is in one
 place.
 Using the script above would take me over 20 000 hours.
 
 Any way I can grab the files one at the time based on a ls command, and invoke
 the script, and to end up when the last file has been processed.
 
 ALTERNATIVE:
 
 Each file contains the IP address which has to move into the first position
 after a string on line 13 which you guessed it: is called 'IP Address:'. Is
 their a way vi could be used to achieve the same result?
 
 Any input would be appreciated,
 
 
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RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
Title: RE: Data load options



Cheers 
John, I wason the verge of asking myself



  -Original Message-From: Hallas John 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 25 July 2001 
  15:57To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Data load options
  Go 
  on then Lisa, I rise to the challenge
  
  For 
  us UK based listers what is Vicodin?
  
  John
  
-Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 25 July 01 
15:26To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: Data load options
Hi Sean, 
Others have given you different 
options. Here's some considerations: 
1. SQL Script. 

  Can be SLOW 
  May require intermittent commits 
  in your script 
  Manual and error prone 
  Must go through SQL 
  engine 
2. SQL Loader 

  Can be very fast (direct - 
  bypassing SQL engine). 
  Direct path load will invalidate 
  indexes. 
  You can keep track of rejected 
  records easily (.bad file) 
  Dependent upon your file format 
  being EXACT, no errors. 
3. Import 

  Requires minimal manual 
  fiddling 
  Can be very slow - I once 
  imported 150GB and it took ~3 days 
  Does not seamlessly handle all 
  object types (INtermedia (domain) indexes is one example) 
  Restarting an import will take a 
  lot longer. If your import fails, be sure and truncate/drop all 
  tables before starting again. 
  Have the option of not including 
  indexes (INDEXES=N) 
  Can also reset your storage 
  parms prior to import (export with data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter 
  new storage parms / import, export with data=y, import data with 
  IGNORE=Y) 
I'm sure others will have 
additional considerations to share. My choice has always been exp/imp. 

Lisa Koivu The Vicodin-enhanced DBA Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 

  -Original Message- From: O'Neill, Sean [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:16 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Data load options 
  I'm trying to compile a list of options for 
  loading data into an Oracle database on 
  NT platform. What I've come up with so far is: [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates. 
  [2] SQL Loader utility [3] Import utility 
  Are there others? Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of 
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RE: UNIX SCRIPT ISSUE - URGENT

2001-07-25 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: UNIX SCRIPT ISSUE - URGENT 





No unix expert but the first option can be achieved automatically
by running the following script


for filename in `ls *.file` 
do
unix script as listed
done


Rename a couple of the files and try out the syntax and work out the timings.
Once it all works properly then rename some of the files (extensions at least) and set the scripyt off a numver of times in the background (nohup scriptname ) and the work can be spread around between processors on the system


For the 2nd option I would have thought AWK was the required utility but can offer nothing more substantial than that at the moment


John


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I need to extract the first 16 bytes of a filename (AIX 4.3) which consists of
an IP address (nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn), and move that to first 16 positions in the
file itself, plus adding a pipe (|) sign for a delimiter, and save the IP
address as a file name with a .dat extension, before loading the contents into
a table.


My predecessor concocted the following:


#!/usr/bin/ksh
FN=$1
IP=`echo $FN|cut -c1-16`
sed s/Report by Hosts/$IP| Report by Hosts/ $FN  newfile.dat
#-- End of file


which is great for a single file at a time.


Right now I have to perform this surgery on 19 986 files, which is in one
place.
Using the script above would take me over 20 000 hours.


Any way I can grab the files one at the time based on a ls command, and invoke
the script, and to end up when the last file has been processed.


ALTERNATIVE:


Each file contains the IP address which has to move into the first position
after a string on line 13 which you guessed it: is called 'IP Address:'. Is
their a way vi could be used to achieve the same result?


Any input would be appreciated,



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RE: UNIX SCRIPT ISSUE - URGENT

2001-07-25 Thread Anderson, Brian

for i in `ls`
do
YourScript.shl $i
done

Unless you are also processing your newfile.dat in the script you need
to make unique names for the output files.
Something like:
sed s/Report by Hosts/$IP| Report by Hosts/ $FN  new_${FN}.dat
so you will get an output file from each input file.


 -Original Message-
 From: Johan Muller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:26 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: UNIX SCRIPT ISSUE - URGENT 
 
 
 I need to extract the first 16 bytes of a filename (AIX 4.3) 
 which consists of
 an IP address (nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn), and move that to first 16 
 positions in the
 file itself, plus adding a pipe (|) sign for a delimiter, and 
 save the IP
 address as a file name with a .dat extension, before loading 
 the contents into
 a table.
 
 My predecessor concocted the following:
 
 #!/usr/bin/ksh
  FN=$1
  IP=`echo $FN|cut -c1-16`
  sed s/Report by Hosts/$IP| Report by Hosts/ $FN  newfile.dat
  #-- End of file
 
 which is great for a single file at a time.
 
 Right now I have to perform this surgery on 19 986 files, 
 which is in one
 place.
 Using the script above would take me over 20 000 hours.
 
 Any way I can grab the files one at the time based on a ls 
 command, and invoke
 the script, and to end up when the last file has been processed.
 
 ALTERNATIVE:
 
 Each file contains the IP address which has to move into the 
 first position
 after a string on line 13 which you guessed it: is called 'IP 
 Address:'. Is
 their a way vi could be used to achieve the same result?
 
 Any input would be appreciated,
 
 
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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread JOE TESTA



ouch it hurt my brain :)

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RE: statement for directory objects

2001-07-25 Thread Gogala, Mladen

select * from user_objects;

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 Hello List,
 I would like to know any statement to know which 'object directory'
 exists in the oracle instance, for a specified user.
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RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Hallas John
Title: RE: Data load options



Go 
on then Lisa, I rise to the challenge

For us 
UK based listers what is Vicodin?

John

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 25 July 01 
  15:26To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Data load options
  Hi Sean, 
  Others have given you different 
  options. Here's some considerations: 
  1. SQL Script. 
  
Can be SLOW 
May require intermittent commits 
in your script 
Manual and error prone 
Must go through SQL engine 

  2. SQL Loader 
  
Can be very fast (direct - 
bypassing SQL engine). 
Direct path load will invalidate 
indexes. 
You can keep track of rejected 
records easily (.bad file) 
Dependent upon your file format 
being EXACT, no errors. 
  3. Import 
  
Requires minimal manual 
fiddling 
Can be very slow - I once imported 
150GB and it took ~3 days 
Does not seamlessly handle all 
object types (INtermedia (domain) indexes is one example) 
Restarting an import will take a 
lot longer. If your import fails, be sure and truncate/drop all tables 
before starting again. 
Have the option of not including 
indexes (INDEXES=N) 
Can also reset your storage parms 
prior to import (export with data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new 
storage parms / import, export with data=y, import data with 
IGNORE=Y) 
  I'm sure others will have additional 
  considerations to share. My choice has always been exp/imp. 
  Lisa Koivu The Vicodin-enhanced DBA Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 
  
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I'm trying to compile a list of options for 
loading data into an Oracle database on 
NT platform. What I've come up with so far is: [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates. 
[2] SQL Loader utility [3] Import utility 
Are there others? Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of 
the methods? 
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RE: Input truncated

2001-07-25 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

Andrea,

Look at the last line of your procedure.  I'll bet you a dozen donuts that
you do not have a carraige return after the last line of typed cdode, and
that the last line of code is 35 chars long.

Simply add a carraige return at the last line.

hope this helps

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I don't know why when I try to load error_p1 procedure it's printed Input
truncated to 35 characters.

SQL @error_p1

Procedure created.

Input truncated to 35 characters
No errors.

Can anybody help me ?

Thanks,
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Re:RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread dgoulet

Lisa,

SQL*Loader in direct path can cause you storage problems since it always
appends to the table(s) ignoring blocks on the free block list.  I found that
out after a developer was using it for our data warehouse.  At the end of a year
he had burned almost 100GB of disk  it kept increasing even though he was
trying to keep only a rolling 180 window.  On a hunch we exported the data,
truncated the table  imported the data back in.  The amount of tablespace being
used dropped 50%.

Dick Goulet

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Author: Koivu; Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   7/25/2001 6:26 AM

Hi Sean, 

Others have given you different options.  Here's some considerations:

1.  SQL Script. 
*   Can be SLOW 
*   May require intermittent commits in your script
*   Manual and error prone
*   Must go through SQL engine

2.  SQL Loader
*   Can be very fast (direct - bypassing SQL engine). 
*   Direct path load will invalidate indexes. 
*   You can keep track of rejected records easily (.bad file)
*   Dependent upon your file format being EXACT, no errors.

3.  Import
*   Requires minimal manual fiddling
*   Can be very slow - I once imported 150GB and it took ~3 days
*   Does not seamlessly handle all object types (INtermedia (domain)
indexes is one example)
*   Restarting an import will take a lot longer.  If your import fails,
be sure and truncate/drop all tables before starting again. 
*   Have the option of not including indexes (INDEXES=N)
*   Can also reset your storage parms prior to import (export with
data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new storage parms / import, export with
data=y, import data with IGNORE=Y)

I'm sure others will have additional considerations to share.  My choice has
always been exp/imp. 

Lisa Koivu
The Vicodin-enhanced DBA
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 

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 database on NT platform.  What I've come up with so far is:
 [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
 [2] SQL Loader utility
 [3] Import utility
 
 Are there others?
 Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
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re-archiving a redo log file

2001-07-25 Thread Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)
Title: re-archiving a redo log file





Is it possible to re-archive an already archived
but still online redo log file?


the 8.1.6 sql*plus manual says it is, but 
I can't get the syntax down right apparently.


SQL archive log 227


returns a ORA-16013 (does not need archiving) error
and


SQL archive log 227 to '/tmp' 
returns
SP2-0718 illegal arhicve log option


Anybody done this?

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RE: Metablink .... down again?

2001-07-25 Thread Guy Hammond

Is there a web site where we can submit bug reports for MetaLink
itself?!

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Rollback Segment Question

2001-07-25 Thread GL2Z/ INF DBA BENLATRECHE

Hi All

 I had a long PL/SQL prg to run .

 I created a special rollback segment for that script with the storage of
(initial 1 m  next 1m  minextents 2).

 After a few minutes of running I got the Snapshot too old error.

 In  the v_$rollstat view I got : extents=2, rssize ~ 2 M, hwmsize ~ 2 M.
 
I recreated the RBS with minextents 100, at this time my program run
succefully.

My question is why in the first case the RBS didn't growth automatically by
allocating a new extents until maxetents value ?


Thank you

Best Regards
Kamel Benlatreche
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RE: MTS IS CONFIGURED BUT STILL DEDICATED CONNECTIONS USED

2001-07-25 Thread Austin, Steve S

Check the client's sqlnet.ora.  It can override the server config with
USE_DEDICATED_SERVER=ON setting.

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Hi,

I have configured the server to use MTS and still dedicated connections r
used.
What might be the reasondatabase is 8.1.6.3.4



LSNRCTL services
Connecting to (DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=IPC)(KEY=EXTPROC0)))
Services Summary...
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  PLSExtProchas 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  ora2000   has 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:76 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
The command completed successfully


init.ora looks like:

mts_dispatchers = TCP,5
mts_max_dispatchers=50 
mts_servers=20  
mts_max_servers=50 
LOCAL_LISTENER = (ADDRESS_LIST = (Address = (Protocol = TCP) (Host=ora2000)
(Port=1521))) 


Thanks
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Re: both dbms_stats dbms_utility are gathering stats on sys objects

2001-07-25 Thread Prasada . Gunda1


Hi Jon,
Thanks for your reply. I am aware of this option and I am currently doing
the same way(i.e.,analyze database and delete SYS schema stats).
But, I was wondering which release of 8.1.7 fixed this problem since Oracle
claims that it is fixed in 8.1.7.

Excerpt from oracle tech support mail:
 filed bug 969814 against DBMS_UTILITY.ANALYZE_DATABASE which was not
 excluding these tables. This bug is fixed in 8.1.7.

Thanks
Prasad




   
   
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Well, first of all, you could use dbms_utility.analyze_schema() and analyze
all the schemas except SYS ... or couldn't you run
dbms_utility.analyze_database() and then
dbms_utility.analyze_schema('SYS','DELETE') to remove SYS's stats. What
about one of those?

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 Both DBMS_STATS.GATHER_DATABASE_STATS and DBMS_UTILITY.ANALYZE_DATABASE
are
 gathering statistics on sys objects. As per oracle, we shouldn't analyze
 the objects owned by sys.

 When I searched on metalink, I found the following information provided
by
 oracle tech support.

 filed bug 969814 against DBMS_UTILITY.ANALYZE_DATABASE which was not
 excluding these tables.
 This bug is fixed in 8.1.7.

 I did my tests on 8.1.7 database on hp-ux. Apparently it is not fixed on
 8.1.7.0.0.

 Is it fixed in later releases? I appreciate your comments.

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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

Oracle 9i XML Web Apps for Wireless  ERP/CRM Support in Deep DB2/Siebel
Territory

Is that catchy enough?  Something you can sink your blueteeth into?

;-)

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to submit a paper, you just need an idea, a title and an abstract. The 
abstract needs to be somewhat catchy, the idea should be relevant and 
something that might interest attendees (anything on version 6, Oracle7 or 
Oracle8 is not a good idea G).

To be accepted (to be excepted would be to be left out or excluded, you can 
do THAT by not submitting an abstract)  -- when you learn the secret please 
tell me.

I believe that the selection is not blind -- in that the selection committee

members know the name of the presenter for the abstracts they read. So 
speakers who have presented before and gotten good ratings will be most 
likely to be asked back. But there are always new speakers each year as 
well.  Some people (like Gaja) are in the you have been accepted, now what 
are you presenting category, in that they are KNOWN to be excellent 
speakers who draw standing room only crowds in the largest rooms.

Rachel


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What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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IOUG 2002 call for papers already.


Submit your presentation via the IOUG-A Web site at
http://www.ioug.org/call-m no later than FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2001. Mini
Lesson and Technical Session presenters receive complimentary registration
at IOUG-A Live! 2002 when your abstract is chosen!

New for 2002 - Quick Tips! Share your unique and valuable tips during these
new 30-minute presentations. Quick Tips provide great experience for first
time presenters and allow experienced presenters to get to the heart of the
matter. This is a presentation only - papers are not required. Plus, 
receive
a discount on the Early Bird registration rate!


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RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Jared . Still


I will second Lisa's recommendations.

If you have much data, and/or will be doing this frequently, SQL*Loader
is your friend.  It is very fast.

Loading from a SQL script is very bad unless you have small amounts
of data.

I once worked with a duhveloper who could not be dissuaded from
loading all data from SQL scripts.  We're talking millions of rows
here.  A single 10 gigabyte SQL script of insert statements.

She single handedly brought our DW to it's knee's.  It begged
for mercy.  There was none.  Duhveloper was fired.  :)

Jared




   

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Hi Sean,


Others have given you different options.  Here's some considerations:


1.  SQL Script.
 Can be SLOW
 May require intermittent commits in your script
 Manual and error prone
 Must go through SQL engine



2.  SQL Loader
 Can be very fast (direct - bypassing SQL engine).
 Direct path load will invalidate indexes.
 You can keep track of rejected records easily (.bad file)
 Dependent upon your file format being EXACT, no errors.



3.  Import
 Requires minimal manual fiddling
 Can be very slow - I once imported 150GB and it took ~3 days
 Does not seamlessly handle all object types (INtermedia (domain)
 indexes is one example)
 Restarting an import will take a lot longer.  If your import fails, be
 sure and truncate/drop all tables before starting again.
 Have the option of not including indexes (INDEXES=N)
 Can also reset your storage parms prior to import (export with data=n,
 edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new storage parms / import, export with
 data=y, import data with IGNORE=Y)



I'm sure others will have additional considerations to share.  My choice
has always been exp/imp.


Lisa Koivu
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 I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an
 Oracle
 database on NT platform.  What I've come up with so far is:
 [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
 [2] SQL Loader utility
 [3] Import utility


 Are there others?
 Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the

 methods?





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RE: ERROR IN INSTALING PATCH 8.1.6.3.0

2001-07-25 Thread Miller, Jay

We had a similar problem when installing the patchset for Oracle Client on
Windows.  We ended up renaming each existing .dll (.dll.old) and continuing.
Worked fine.
 
Jay Miller

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Had a similar problem with a diff. set of files when installing patch
8.1.7.1.0b and that was on AIX. Just removed the offending files which gave
a similar error to allow the patch to write a new file and it worked for us.
No problems encountered so far, though I would not hesitate to say that it
was a wrong practice, but took a chance and it worked.
If you have backed up your systems correctly as recommended,  I would say go
for it.
 
Satish


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For what purpose u are installing this patch let me know


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Hi,

I am trying to install patch 8.1.6.3.0 on WIN 2 and i am getting error:
Error in writing to file f:\ORACLE\ORA81\BIN\ORANCDS8.DLL..and if i
ignore this
error the same error comes for other DLL...Oracle is shutdown properly
and there is
no service running of Oracle.
What might be the reason.

Thanks
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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread JOE TESTA



yeppers, if i've got the outline done, then the whole presentation is done 
at that point, geez. :(

joe
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For those of you who have been speakers before, there appears to be a new wrinkle in the submission process. They now want an outline of the presentation submitted along with the abstract. I don't remember submitting an outline for past conferences. 
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Re: UNIX SCRIPT ISSUE - URGENT

2001-07-25 Thread Mustafa

Try awk or perl.  They can handle string manipulation from OS commands
simply and quickly.  A simple awk script to take the first 16 characters of
the output of ls and put it into a data file follows:

gawk 'BEGIN { while (ls | getline) print substr($1,1,16) | Report by
Hosts}'  new.dat

Defry

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 I need to extract the first 16 bytes of a filename (AIX 4.3) which
consists of
 an IP address (nnn.nnn.nnn.nnn), and move that to first 16 positions in
the
 file itself, plus adding a pipe (|) sign for a delimiter, and save the IP
 address as a file name with a .dat extension, before loading the contents
into
 a table.

 My predecessor concocted the following:

 #!/usr/bin/ksh
  FN=$1
  IP=`echo $FN|cut -c1-16`
  sed s/Report by Hosts/$IP| Report by Hosts/ $FN  newfile.dat
  #-- End of file

 which is great for a single file at a time.

 Right now I have to perform this surgery on 19 986 files, which is in one
 place.
 Using the script above would take me over 20 000 hours.

 Any way I can grab the files one at the time based on a ls command, and
invoke
 the script, and to end up when the last file has been processed.

 ALTERNATIVE:

 Each file contains the IP address which has to move into the first
position
 after a string on line 13 which you guessed it: is called 'IP Address:'.
Is
 their a way vi could be used to achieve the same result?

 Any input would be appreciated,


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Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?

2001-07-25 Thread Miller, Jay

The other week a new production process was running much more slowly than
anticipated.  A file needed to be sent out by 6:00pm and at the rate the
table was being populated it wouldn't complete until around 9:30pm.  The
production people and developers came to me for help and I  saw that the SQL
Explain Plan that was usually being executed (this would run a few million
times) was something like

select a.col1,a.col2,a.col3,b.col2
from a, b
where a.col4=b.col1
and a.col5=:b1

nested loops
table a
index a1 (unique)
table b
index b1 (range)

This looked pretty good, but it occurred to me that only one column was
being selected from table b, so if I added a index (b2) that combined col1
and col2 to table b then it wouldn't be necessary to read table b at all,
all the information would be in index b2.

This resulted in a plan of:

nested loops
table a
index a1 (unique)
index b1 (range)

I did so on the fly (this was only a 4,000 row table so it took almost no
time to create the index).  I anticipated that it would cut about 25% off
the processing time (only 3/4 as many block reads).  Instead it cut about
75% off the processing time causing it to finish at 5:45 (I was a hero to
the developers and production people, but had to warn them not to tell their
management about it since I could get in trouble for not following the
Change Control Process).  

My question is, where did the additional 50% efficiency come from?  What am
I missing?  I'm glad it worked so well, but would like to understand why...
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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Jared . Still



 What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get
excepted.
 Christopher R. Spence

Why Chris?  Were you excepted?  ;)

Jared



   
 
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Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

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IOUG 2002 call for papers already.


Submit your presentation via the IOUG-A Web site at
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RE: Dangerous AIX Bug!

2001-07-25 Thread Durinda.Jones

Ross,

We're running 8162 OPS on AIX 4.3.  Chat away...

Durinda 

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...just kidding, thought that would get your attention. 

But seriously:  does anyone out there use Oracle 8i on AIX 4.3 or 5L?

I'd like to chat w/you if so.

Thanks!

- Ross

p.s.  hmmm...maybe there *is* a bug in AIX and that's one of
the things I'll learn:-)

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Ron,

I've attached one that I also got from the list some time ago, you may need
to use something like bablefish to translate the comments :)

HTH

Mark

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Last week I was bit by a corrupt block on an index.  I run Analyze every
week which I found has been blowing up for some time due to the block
corruption.  Since Analyze does not create a log I did not know the Analyze
was blowing up.  Now I know that there are messages in the alert log that
would have told me I had problems with the Analyze and the index.

To make a long story short I need a good log scan script.  Hopefully one
that will work on Unix and NT.  Mainly Unix.  If anyone can help I would
appreciate it.

Thanks!
Ron
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RE: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster

2001-07-25 Thread Austin, Steve S

We're using Sun Cluster 2.2 and a mix of VCS implementations, all on Solaris
-- 2.6, 2.7 and 8.  It seems likely our HP Service Guard will also migrate
to VCS as well.

The SC2.2 product has had more sensitivity to the Oracle version than the
VCS product.  It also seems to have more of its guts exposed, while VCS is
better encapsulated in its GUI.  I have no experience with SC3.0.

We don't use OPS here yet, but it looks like Veritas has an option to
support it; not sure if it's in the base VCS product or not -- knowing their
$trategie$, it probably i$n't included in the ba$e package.  Check out this
URL to see the press release on VERITAS Database Edition/Advanced Cluster
for Oracle that talks about supporting OPS:
http://www.veritas.com/news/press/PressReleaseDetail.jhtml?NewsId=9436

:)
sa
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We had a study made by a third party between Sun
cluster and Veritas cluster both version 2.X and 3.x

After that study, we have chosen Veritas cluster 2.x

Sun Cluster 3 requires Solaris 8, all our boxes are on
7 and Sun Cluster 2.X doesn't handle T300 disk box
which we have.  Sun software doesn't handle all Sun
hardware... 



 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Steve,
 
 Thanks for your input, I had previously used HP
 Service Guard on HP-UX platform, it worked for us. I
 am now on Sun platform and looking at HA solution
 using either Sun or Veritas clustering solution, I
 also heard that the older version of Sun clustering
 is not very sophisticated compared to other
 clustering solution, are you using 2.x or the latest
 3.0, from what I read on Sun web site, v3.0 seems to
 do a lot more than the old version, any comments
 from the list?? The other things I need to check is
 rather OPS is supported with Veritas Cluster on Sun
 platform, anyone know??
 
 KC
 -Original Message-
 From: Austin, Steve S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 5:31 AM
 Subject: RE: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster
 
 
 I have used both and somewhat prefer VCS.  In
 both systems, we've had problems where the cluster
 was in an unknown state and any action to change the
 state was risky to all the services in the cluster. 
 This is rare for both products.
  
 Our Sun support required for us to pay them to
 certify our stuff before they'd support the
 implementation.  Don't know if you're subject to
 this too, but VCS has no such rule.  The tests were
 interesting, but we could conduct the tests without
 their involvement.
  
 Command-line jocks may at first prefer Sun, but
 I think Veritas is a better bet since it's not as
 tied to the hardware vendor, and is more likely to
 be common across Unixes, if you're in a site where
 you've got more than one Unix vendor's stuff to
 support, like I am.  
  
 We are in the process of migrating from Sun
 cluster to VCS, fyi.
  
 my 2¢
 Steve
 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:51 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster
 
 
 List,
  
 Just wondering if anyone on the list who had
 experience on both Sun clustering and Veritas
 clustering software share their experience on both
 products, strength and weakness or any comparison??
  
 KC
  

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RE: OT, WOW really early

2001-07-25 Thread Henry Poras

Yes, Big Blue-teeth. 

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Oracle 9i XML Web Apps for Wireless  ERP/CRM Support in Deep DB2/Siebel
Territory

Is that catchy enough?  Something you can sink your blueteeth into?

;-)

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to submit a paper, you just need an idea, a title and an abstract. The 
abstract needs to be somewhat catchy, the idea should be relevant and 
something that might interest attendees (anything on version 6, Oracle7 or 
Oracle8 is not a good idea G).

To be accepted (to be excepted would be to be left out or excluded, you can 
do THAT by not submitting an abstract)  -- when you learn the secret please 
tell me.

I believe that the selection is not blind -- in that the selection committee

members know the name of the presenter for the abstracts they read. So 
speakers who have presented before and gotten good ratings will be most 
likely to be asked back. But there are always new speakers each year as 
well.  Some people (like Gaja) are in the you have been accepted, now what 
are you presenting category, in that they are KNOWN to be excellent 
speakers who draw standing room only crowds in the largest rooms.

Rachel


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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 05:45:43 -0800

What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Fuelspot



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IOUG 2002 call for papers already.


Submit your presentation via the IOUG-A Web site at
http://www.ioug.org/call-m no later than FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2001. Mini
Lesson and Technical Session presenters receive complimentary registration
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Best way to upgrade database/move data

2001-07-25 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

Hi DBAs,

Currently I have NT server 4.0/Oracle 8.0.5 with about 400 million
records/450 tables,indices,etc.

We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will increase
block size from 2k to 8k

What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from existing
server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything from old server to
new server.

Thanks
Rick
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OT, It's all about Alex

2001-07-25 Thread Mohan, Ross

Alex, how did the paper/present go?

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Maybe some spelling errors in the abstract -:)

Alex Hillman

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What is required to submit a paper/presentation to IOUGA and get excepted.

Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen.

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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IOUG 2002 call for papers already.


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Lesson and Technical Session presenters receive complimentary registration
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RE: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster

2001-07-25 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

 Austin, Steve

Hey, didn't I see you on Monday Night Raw and Smackdown??  :o)

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


We're using Sun Cluster 2.2 and a mix of VCS implementations, all on Solaris
-- 2.6, 2.7 and 8.  It seems likely our HP Service Guard will also migrate
to VCS as well.

The SC2.2 product has had more sensitivity to the Oracle version than the
VCS product.  It also seems to have more of its guts exposed, while VCS is
better encapsulated in its GUI.  I have no experience with SC3.0.

We don't use OPS here yet, but it looks like Veritas has an option to
support it; not sure if it's in the base VCS product or not -- knowing their
$trategie$, it probably i$n't included in the ba$e package.  Check out this
URL to see the press release on VERITAS Database Edition/Advanced Cluster
for Oracle that talks about supporting OPS:
http://www.veritas.com/news/press/PressReleaseDetail.jhtml?NewsId=9436

:)
sa
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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:37 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


We had a study made by a third party between Sun
cluster and Veritas cluster both version 2.X and 3.x

After that study, we have chosen Veritas cluster 2.x

Sun Cluster 3 requires Solaris 8, all our boxes are on
7 and Sun Cluster 2.X doesn't handle T300 disk box
which we have.  Sun software doesn't handle all Sun
hardware... 



 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Steve,
 
 Thanks for your input, I had previously used HP
 Service Guard on HP-UX platform, it worked for us. I
 am now on Sun platform and looking at HA solution
 using either Sun or Veritas clustering solution, I
 also heard that the older version of Sun clustering
 is not very sophisticated compared to other
 clustering solution, are you using 2.x or the latest
 3.0, from what I read on Sun web site, v3.0 seems to
 do a lot more than the old version, any comments
 from the list?? The other things I need to check is
 rather OPS is supported with Veritas Cluster on Sun
 platform, anyone know??
 
 KC
 -Original Message-
 From: Austin, Steve S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 5:31 AM
 Subject: RE: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster
 
 
 I have used both and somewhat prefer VCS.  In
 both systems, we've had problems where the cluster
 was in an unknown state and any action to change the
 state was risky to all the services in the cluster. 
 This is rare for both products.
  
 Our Sun support required for us to pay them to
 certify our stuff before they'd support the
 implementation.  Don't know if you're subject to
 this too, but VCS has no such rule.  The tests were
 interesting, but we could conduct the tests without
 their involvement.
  
 Command-line jocks may at first prefer Sun, but
 I think Veritas is a better bet since it's not as
 tied to the hardware vendor, and is more likely to
 be common across Unixes, if you're in a site where
 you've got more than one Unix vendor's stuff to
 support, like I am.  
  
 We are in the process of migrating from Sun
 cluster to VCS, fyi.
  
 my 2¢
 Steve
 -Original Message-
 From: KC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:51 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 Subject: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster
 
 
 List,
  
 Just wondering if anyone on the list who had
 experience on both Sun clustering and Veritas
 clustering software share their experience on both
 products, strength and weakness or any comparison??
  
 KC
  

=
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DBA Oracle, consultant entrepôt de données
Oracle DBA, datawarehouse consultant
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Patch Level

2001-07-25 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

How could we check patch level(like c,d etc) for AP module. We are running 
Oracle Financials 10.7 char with database 7.3.4.5.
TIA
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RE: Rollback Segment Question

2001-07-25 Thread Yadav, Shailesh

Kamel,

  Looks like you may have had multiple transactions in your PL/SQL prg.
Since one transaction ended, the slot used by it to store undo information
was reused by other transactions. Your query did not find the required undo
information and thus Snapshot too old error. Had this been a long running
transaction then more extents would have been automatically allocated. My
best guess is that you were updating the table that you were querying. Its
best in a situation like that to(if possible) avoid reading from the table
that you are updating, else do what you did, i.e. pre-allocate extents.

HTH 
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Hi All

 I had a long PL/SQL prg to run .

 I created a special rollback segment for that script with the storage of
(initial 1 m  next 1m  minextents 2).

 After a few minutes of running I got the Snapshot too old error.

 In  the v_$rollstat view I got : extents=2, rssize ~ 2 M, hwmsize ~ 2 M.
 
I recreated the RBS with minextents 100, at this time my program run
succefully.

My question is why in the first case the RBS didn't growth automatically by
allocating a new extents until maxetents value ?


Thank you

Best Regards
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RE: both dbms_stats dbms_utility are gathering stats on sys obj

2001-07-25 Thread Miller, Jay

Yep.  That's what we do also.

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Well, first of all, you could use dbms_utility.analyze_schema() and analyze
all the schemas except SYS ... or couldn't you run
dbms_utility.analyze_database() and then
dbms_utility.analyze_schema('SYS','DELETE') to remove SYS's stats. What
about one of those?

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 Both DBMS_STATS.GATHER_DATABASE_STATS and DBMS_UTILITY.ANALYZE_DATABASE
are
 gathering statistics on sys objects. As per oracle, we shouldn't analyze
 the objects owned by sys.

 When I searched on metalink, I found the following information provided by
 oracle tech support.

 filed bug 969814 against DBMS_UTILITY.ANALYZE_DATABASE which was not
 excluding these tables.
 This bug is fixed in 8.1.7.

 I did my tests on 8.1.7 database on hp-ux. Apparently it is not fixed on
 8.1.7.0.0.

 Is it fixed in later releases? I appreciate your comments.

 Best regards,
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Looking for a tool

2001-07-25 Thread Andrey Bronfin

Dear friends !

I'm desperately looking for a reporting tool with the following
characteristics.

It should be able to deploy various types of charts (Bar, Column, Line, Pie
etc.) to a web environment.
It should be able to extract its raw data from an Oracle (or other) RDBMS ,
using SQL.
It should have some kind of a graph design tools, so new reports could be
easily deployed through the help of report templates.
Different filters should be applied to a report (i.e.: Specific ISP on
specific date range).
Aggregation reports should be available (Could be done by SQL aggregation).
It should support displaying the data as both graph and tables.
It should be platform independent (i.e. Could run on NT, Win2000, Solaris).
The component should be database independent (Should be able to extract data
from  RDBMS like Oracle, DB2, MS-SQL).
The component should be able to run from Tomcat/Apache as well as Macromedia
JRun and BEA Weblogic.
The component could be integrated and called from a web system 
Preferably, the component could have a Java API.

I have tried to search all the known serach engines with no results.
Please advice !

Thanks a lot 
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Re: Best way to upgrade database/move data

2001-07-25 Thread Mustafa

Your best way is to do a full export of the 8.0.5 data and import it into
the new 8.1.7 database.

Hope this helps,
Defry
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 Currently I have NT server 4.0/Oracle 8.0.5 with about 400 million
 records/450 tables,indices,etc.

 We will be getting a new NT server with Oracle 8.1.7.  We will increase
 block size from 2k to 8k

 What would be the best way to move data/users/sequences,etc from existing
 server to new server?  Essentially replicate everything from old server to
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Re: statement for directory objects

2001-07-25 Thread Beatriz Martínez Jiménez

Hello again,
Before sending this email,I have done some intents to get this
information. One of this was through this view (user_objects) but there is
no object directories in it.
The way in which I have created it is 'create directory XX  AS 'E:\XXX';,
and I get no error, the one I think is the correct one.
I have made inserted too a parameter in the init.ora file 'UTL_FILE_DIR',
but with no luck.
Could somebody give me any idea? Am I doing anything wrong?
A lot of thanks again

Gogala, Mladen wrote:

 select * from user_objects;

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  I would like to know any statement to know which 'object directory'
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Re: Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?

2001-07-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael

it's possible that the index was small enough to stay cached in the SGA?


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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:31:28 -0800

The other week a new production process was running much more slowly than
anticipated.  A file needed to be sent out by 6:00pm and at the rate the
table was being populated it wouldn't complete until around 9:30pm.  The
production people and developers came to me for help and I  saw that the 
SQL
Explain Plan that was usually being executed (this would run a few million
times) was something like

select a.col1,a.col2,a.col3,b.col2
from a, b
where a.col4=b.col1
and a.col5=:b1

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   table b
   index b1 (range)

This looked pretty good, but it occurred to me that only one column was
being selected from table b, so if I added a index (b2) that combined col1
and col2 to table b then it wouldn't be necessary to read table b at all,
all the information would be in index b2.

This resulted in a plan of:

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   index b1 (range)

I did so on the fly (this was only a 4,000 row table so it took almost no
time to create the index).  I anticipated that it would cut about 25% off
the processing time (only 3/4 as many block reads).  Instead it cut about
75% off the processing time causing it to finish at 5:45 (I was a hero to
the developers and production people, but had to warn them not to tell 
their
management about it since I could get in trouble for not following the
Change Control Process).

My question is, where did the additional 50% efficiency come from?  What am
I missing?  I'm glad it worked so well, but would like to understand why...
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Re:RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

Truncation was the solution in this case as I observed in the past that 
direct load option use empty blocks above HWM thus using lot of space above 
it. If it is possible target table should be truncated before such loads...

Regards


MOHAMMAD RAFIQ



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Lisa,

 SQL*Loader in direct path can cause you storage problems since it 
always
appends to the table(s) ignoring blocks on the free block list.  I found 
that
out after a developer was using it for our data warehouse.  At the end of a 
year
he had burned almost 100GB of disk  it kept increasing even though he was
trying to keep only a rolling 180 window.  On a hunch we exported the data,
truncated the table  imported the data back in.  The amount of tablespace 
being
used dropped 50%.

Dick Goulet

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Hi Sean,

Others have given you different options.  Here's some considerations:

1.  SQL Script.
*   Can be SLOW
*   May require intermittent commits in your script
*   Manual and error prone
*   Must go through SQL engine

2.  SQL Loader
*   Can be very fast (direct - bypassing SQL engine).
*   Direct path load will invalidate indexes.
*   You can keep track of rejected records easily (.bad file)
*   Dependent upon your file format being EXACT, no errors.

3.  Import
*   Requires minimal manual fiddling
*   Can be very slow - I once imported 150GB and it took ~3 days
*   Does not seamlessly handle all object types (INtermedia (domain)
indexes is one example)
*   Restarting an import will take a lot longer.  If your import fails,
be sure and truncate/drop all tables before starting again.
*   Have the option of not including indexes (INDEXES=N)
*   Can also reset your storage parms prior to import (export with
data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new storage parms / import, export with
data=y, import data with IGNORE=Y)

I'm sure others will have additional considerations to share.  My choice has
always been exp/imp.

Lisa Koivu
The Vicodin-enhanced DBA
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA

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  I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an Oracle
  database on NT platform.  What I've come up with so far is:
  [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
  [2] SQL Loader utility
  [3] Import utility
 
  Are there others?
  Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
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RE: books on data modelling

2001-07-25 Thread Guy Hammond

I've seen some data models where the only book they read was probably
How To Smoke A Big Fat Pipe O' Crack.

About the only book I've actually needed was Korth's Database System
Concepts - all the rest of the knowledge needed is application-domain
specific, for example, understanding how the real-world processes that
use your data work. 

g



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Hello All,

I have been in the lookout for a good and comprehensive book on data
modelling
so that I can enhance my knowledge in this area.
I am not finding anything related in online Oracle documentation.
Please suggest me..

Thanks in Advance,
Suren

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Re: data files the busiest

2001-07-25 Thread Jared . Still



The fact that you see the same busy file from your script as
Jon's script shows is merely coincidence.

Consider the output with varying levels of read and write activity.

Jon's approach is more correct.

Jared



   
 
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 Jon,

well your script also gives me the same busy file. and I am showing the
physical reads also, see my script below. I can see from my script, the
same busy data file as I see from yours, it is just that I have to compare
the 2 figures, that is f.phyrds, f.phywrts. From my script I get :-

/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5/dbs/oradata/orcl815/users01.dbf
995671  14940
/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5/dbs/oradata/orcl815/system01.dbf
116510  271329

which shows the order of busy from least to the max. and the difference
between the 2 f.phyrds, f.phywrts, shows me.

From your script I get:-

/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5/dbs/oradata/orcl815/users01.dbf
   1002657  71.61

/u01/app/oracle/product/8.1.5/dbs/oradata/orcl815/system01.dbf
387046  27.64

So I think I am okay then???

rgds,

raja



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Raja:

Your query is on the right track, but it only accounts for the physical
writes, not the physical reads. Try the attached script.

Jon Walthour

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 Hello all,

 If I want to know which data files are the busiest, can I assume that
from
the following query:-

 SELECT SUBSTR(name, 1, 128), f.phyrds, f.phywrts
   FROM v$datafile d, v$filestat f
   WHERE f.file# = d.file#
   ORDER BY phywrts

 If there is vast difference between the physical reads and physical
writes, then that particular data file would be the busiest? Is this true?

 rgds,

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Re: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Mustafa
Title: RE: Data load options



It's a pain-killer:

http://www.painmanagementsolutions.com/products/vicodin/vicodin.html

BTW, in the US, a lot of Hollywood stars are in 
rehab due to the addictive effects of this drug.

Defry

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  Cheers John, I wason the verge of asking 
  myself
  
  
  
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RE: Data load options
Go 
on then Lisa, I rise to the challenge

For us UK based listers what is 
Vicodin?

John

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  Hi Sean, 
  Others have given you different 
  options. Here's some considerations: 
  1. SQL Script. 
  
Can be SLOW 
May require intermittent 
commits in your script 
Manual and error prone 
Must go through SQL 
engine 
  2. SQL Loader 
  
Can be very fast (direct - 
bypassing SQL engine). 
Direct path load will 
invalidate indexes. 
You can keep track of rejected 
records easily (.bad file) 
Dependent upon your file 
format being EXACT, no errors. 
  3. Import 
  
Requires minimal manual 
fiddling 
Can be very slow - I once 
imported 150GB and it took ~3 days 
Does not seamlessly handle all 
object types (INtermedia (domain) indexes is one example) 
Restarting an import will take 
a lot longer. If your import fails, be sure and truncate/drop all 
tables before starting again. 
Have the option of not 
including indexes (INDEXES=N) 
Can also reset your storage 
parms prior to import (export with data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter 
new storage parms / import, export with data=y, import data with 
IGNORE=Y) 
  I'm sure others will have 
  additional considerations to share. My choice has always been 
  exp/imp. 
  Lisa Koivu The Vicodin-enhanced DBA Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 
  
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Subject: 
Data load options 
I'm trying to compile a list of options for 
loading data into an Oracle database 
on NT platform. What I've come up with so far is: [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates. 
[2] SQL Loader utility [3] Import utility 
Are there others? Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons 
of the methods? 
Sean :) 
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RE: version

2001-07-25 Thread Ramasamy, Baskar

Rukmini,

select * from V$version

Baskar


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 Hi All,

   How can we find what version of oracle (standard/enterprise/workgroup) is
running in the system.
Is there any view/table ?

Thanks
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Re: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Denny Koovakattu


  At least she didn't have a commit after every insert and ask you to tune the
database ;)

Denny

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 I will second Lisa's recommendations.
 
 If you have much data, and/or will be doing this frequently, SQL*Loader
 is your friend.  It is very fast.
 
 Loading from a SQL script is very bad unless you have small amounts
 of data.
 
 I once worked with a duhveloper who could not be dissuaded from
 loading all data from SQL scripts.  We're talking millions of rows
 here.  A single 10 gigabyte SQL script of insert statements.
 
 She single handedly brought our DW to it's knee's.  It begged
 for mercy.  There was none.  Duhveloper was fired.  :)
 
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effect of Initial and Next exents...

2001-07-25 Thread Raghu Kota




Hi Friends

I obsered in my big database Tables and Indexes set different Initial and 
next extents..So How it will effect on performance?? Suppose one my big 
table has initial 72Mb and next 245Mb..All big indexes(6Gb) was set low 
Initial and next around 245Mb..Any ideas about the performance and 
rectification??...

TIA
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Re: re-archiving a redo log file

2001-07-25 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: re-archiving a redo log file



I don't think, it's possible.
Most probably it checks 'archived' column in 
v$log.
Also, it keeps track of archived files in 
v$archived_log.

Igor 

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  Subject: re-archiving a redo log 
  file
  
  Is it possible to re-archive an already archived 
  but still online redo log file? 
  the 8.1.6 sql*plus manual says it is, but I can't get the syntax down right apparently. 
  SQL archive log 227 
  returns a ORA-16013 (does not need archiving) error 
  and 
  SQL archive log 227 to '/tmp' returns SP2-0718 illegal arhicve log 
  option 
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UNIX command

2001-07-25 Thread Seema Singh

Hi gurus
Which command is for to see disk layout in sun cluster and veritas cluster 
on sun solaris.
Thanks in advance.
-Seema

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RE: MTS IS CONFIGURED BUT STILL DEDICATED CONNECTIONS USED

2001-07-25 Thread Harvinder Singh

this option is not set so i assume default is OFF...
any other clue...

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Check the client's sqlnet.ora.  It can override the server config with
USE_DEDICATED_SERVER=ON setting.

Steve

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Hi,

I have configured the server to use MTS and still dedicated connections r
used.
What might be the reasondatabase is 8.1.6.3.4



LSNRCTL services
Connecting to (DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=IPC)(KEY=EXTPROC0)))
Services Summary...
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  PLSExtProchas 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  ora2000   has 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:76 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
The command completed successfully


init.ora looks like:

mts_dispatchers = TCP,5
mts_max_dispatchers=50 
mts_servers=20  
mts_max_servers=50 
LOCAL_LISTENER = (ADDRESS_LIST = (Address = (Protocol = TCP) (Host=ora2000)
(Port=1521))) 


Thanks
Harvinder
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RE: Looking for a tool

2001-07-25 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Discoverer 9i  the demo at ODTUG was capable of doing almost everything
that you mention here. Only two problems ...

1. works with Oracle only (AFAIK)
2. It is not available yet  (last time I saw, it wasn't).

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RE: Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?

2001-07-25 Thread Miller, Jay

Kirti made a similar suggestion. But I had done a select count(*) on the
table so that all the table rows would be loaded into memory.  I suppose
that the index blocks might not have been, but even there the likelihood
that any given one of the million plus reads wouldn't find one of the 4,000
rows in memory seems rather small.

Hmm, is it possible to Cache an index?  I just tried an ALTER INDEX xxx
CACHE; command and it didn't work.

Jay Miller
 

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it's possible that the index was small enough to stay cached in the SGA?


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Subject: Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:31:28 -0800

The other week a new production process was running much more slowly than
anticipated.  A file needed to be sent out by 6:00pm and at the rate the
table was being populated it wouldn't complete until around 9:30pm.  The
production people and developers came to me for help and I  saw that the 
SQL
Explain Plan that was usually being executed (this would run a few million
times) was something like

select a.col1,a.col2,a.col3,b.col2
from a, b
where a.col4=b.col1
and a.col5=:b1

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   table b
   index b1 (range)

This looked pretty good, but it occurred to me that only one column was
being selected from table b, so if I added a index (b2) that combined col1
and col2 to table b then it wouldn't be necessary to read table b at all,
all the information would be in index b2.

This resulted in a plan of:

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   index b1 (range)

I did so on the fly (this was only a 4,000 row table so it took almost no
time to create the index).  I anticipated that it would cut about 25% off
the processing time (only 3/4 as many block reads).  Instead it cut about
75% off the processing time causing it to finish at 5:45 (I was a hero to
the developers and production people, but had to warn them not to tell 
their
management about it since I could get in trouble for not following the
Change Control Process).

My question is, where did the additional 50% efficiency come from?  What am
I missing?  I'm glad it worked so well, but would like to understand why...
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Re: Looking for a tool

2001-07-25 Thread Rocky Welch

Hi Andrey,
Try Cognos.
http://www.cognos.com/

HTH,

-Rocky

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 I'm desperately looking for a reporting tool with the following
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 It should be able to deploy various types of charts (Bar, Column, Line,
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 It should be able to extract its raw data from an Oracle (or other)
 RDBMS ,
 using SQL.
 It should have some kind of a graph design tools, so new reports could
 be
 easily deployed through the help of report templates.
 Different filters should be applied to a report (i.e.: Specific ISP on
 specific date range).
 Aggregation reports should be available (Could be done by SQL
 aggregation).
 It should support displaying the data as both graph and tables.
 It should be platform independent (i.e. Could run on NT, Win2000,
 Solaris).
 The component should be database independent (Should be able to extract
 data
 from  RDBMS like Oracle, DB2, MS-SQL).
 The component should be able to run from Tomcat/Apache as well as
 Macromedia
 JRun and BEA Weblogic.
 The component could be integrated and called from a web system 
 Preferably, the component could have a Java API.
 
 I have tried to search all the known serach engines with no results.
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RE: Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?

2001-07-25 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F

I think it's because the optimizxer did not have to go to the table b to
satisfy the query - it went to the index only.

does this make sense?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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it's possible that the index was small enough to stay cached in the SGA?


From: Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:31:28 -0800

The other week a new production process was running much more slowly than
anticipated.  A file needed to be sent out by 6:00pm and at the rate the
table was being populated it wouldn't complete until around 9:30pm.  The
production people and developers came to me for help and I  saw that the 
SQL
Explain Plan that was usually being executed (this would run a few million
times) was something like

select a.col1,a.col2,a.col3,b.col2
from a, b
where a.col4=b.col1
and a.col5=:b1

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   table b
   index b1 (range)

This looked pretty good, but it occurred to me that only one column was
being selected from table b, so if I added a index (b2) that combined col1
and col2 to table b then it wouldn't be necessary to read table b at all,
all the information would be in index b2.

This resulted in a plan of:

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   index b1 (range)

I did so on the fly (this was only a 4,000 row table so it took almost no
time to create the index).  I anticipated that it would cut about 25% off
the processing time (only 3/4 as many block reads).  Instead it cut about
75% off the processing time causing it to finish at 5:45 (I was a hero to
the developers and production people, but had to warn them not to tell 
their
management about it since I could get in trouble for not following the
Change Control Process).

My question is, where did the additional 50% efficiency come from?  What am
I missing?  I'm glad it worked so well, but would like to understand why...
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RE: books on data modelling

2001-07-25 Thread Jared . Still


I haven't yet seen a reference to David Hay's 'Data Model Patterns :
Conventions of Thought'.

If you haven't read and understood it, then sorry, you don't know data
modeling.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0932633293/qid=996081527/sr=2-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/104-1357679-6149513

'A Practical Guide to Logical Data Modeling' by George Tillman is also an
excellent book.  It
will help you appreciate the importance of Data Modeling.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0070646155/qid=996081625/sr=1-4/ref=sc_b_4/104-1357679-6149513

It also contains one of my favorite IT quotes.  To paraphrase:

'The reason that there is such a great need for Data Modelers is
because developers are so bad at it.'

You'll have to read the book to get the non-paraphrased version.

Jared



   
 
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I've seen some data models where the only book they read was probably
How To Smoke A Big Fat Pipe O' Crack.

About the only book I've actually needed was Korth's Database System
Concepts - all the rest of the knowledge needed is application-domain
specific, for example, understanding how the real-world processes that
use your data work.

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Hello All,

I have been in the lookout for a good and comprehensive book on data
modelling
so that I can enhance my knowledge in this area.
I am not finding anything related in online Oracle documentation.
Please suggest me..

Thanks in Advance,
Suren

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Re: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread Jared . Still



I forgot to add:  there was a commit for every 1000 rows.

Jared



   
 
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 I will second Lisa's recommendations.

 If you have much data, and/or will be doing this frequently, SQL*Loader
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 Loading from a SQL script is very bad unless you have small amounts
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 I once worked with a duhveloper who could not be dissuaded from
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RE: 4 drives, 2 controller ( 3 drives on the SAME controller !)

2001-07-25 Thread John Kanagaraj

Rahul,

The 3 drives are sharing the controller and are daisy-chained. An IBM CE can
reroute the cables, and depending on what's currently there, you *may* need
to purchase cables/end connectors. Since you have the same Wide SCSI
adapters/drives, this is less complicated than it could have been..

So how goes it with Wahid and all the trouble brewing out there?

John Kanagaraj

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list,
in my rs/6000, i found the following...

# lsdev -Cc adapter
ascsi0 Available 00-06Wide SCSI I/O Controller Adapter
ascsi1 Available 00-07Wide SCSI I/O Controller Adapter

# lsdev -Cc disk
hdisk0 Available 00-06-B1-2,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk1 Available 00-07-A1-3,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk2 Available 00-07-A1-4,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive
hdisk3 Available 00-07-A1-5,0 16 Bit SCSI Disk Drive

from the above i can conclude that adapter 06 is controlling hdisk0
and adapter 07 is controlling the other 3 drives..

if the above deduction is correct , then all the three drives are 
sharing the same IO channel , right ?

what kind of effort is required to ammend the above config ? 
( TWO drives on ONE controller ) 

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Re: statement for directory objects

2001-07-25 Thread Igor Neyman

You should be able to see the one you created in dba_directories:

select * from dba_directories;

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Hello again,
Before sending this email,I have done some intents to get this
information. One of this was through this view (user_objects) but there is
no object directories in it.
The way in which I have created it is 'create directory XX  AS 'E:\XXX';,
and I get no error, the one I think is the correct one.
I have made inserted too a parameter in the init.ora file 'UTL_FILE_DIR',
but with no luck.
Could somebody give me any idea? Am I doing anything wrong?
A lot of thanks again

Gogala, Mladen wrote:

 select * from user_objects;

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  I would like to know any statement to know which 'object directory'
  exists in the oracle instance, for a specified user.
  TIA,
 
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RE: books on data modelling

2001-07-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael

but you haven't lived until David Hay has made an origami animal for you :)




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I haven't yet seen a reference to David Hay's 'Data Model Patterns :
Conventions of Thought'.

If you haven't read and understood it, then sorry, you don't know data
modeling.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0932633293/qid=996081527/sr=2-1/ref=aps_sr_b_1_1/104-1357679-6149513

'A Practical Guide to Logical Data Modeling' by George Tillman is also an
excellent book.  It
will help you appreciate the importance of Data Modeling.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0070646155/qid=996081625/sr=1-4/ref=sc_b_4/104-1357679-6149513

It also contains one of my favorite IT quotes.  To paraphrase:

'The reason that there is such a great need for Data Modelers is
because developers are so bad at it.'

You'll have to read the book to get the non-paraphrased version.

Jared




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I've seen some data models where the only book they read was probably
How To Smoke A Big Fat Pipe O' Crack.

About the only book I've actually needed was Korth's Database System
Concepts - all the rest of the knowledge needed is application-domain
specific, for example, understanding how the real-world processes that
use your data work.

g



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Hello All,

I have been in the lookout for a good and comprehensive book on data
modelling
so that I can enhance my knowledge in this area.
I am not finding anything related in online Oracle documentation.
Please suggest me..

Thanks in Advance,
Suren

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RE: MTS IS CONFIGURED BUT STILL DEDICATED CONNECTIONS USED

2001-07-25 Thread Durinda.Jones

A couple of things I would check.  I don't believe you need the ADDRESS_LIST
parameter, unless you will have multiples.  I would remove the spaces in the
parameter.  I would make sure that the HOST equals the machine name,
possibly make the entry upper case.  As foolish as it sounds, I've seen
these things make a difference.

Set it up to look like this and see if it helps.  LOCAL_LISTENER =
(Address=(Protocol=TCP)(Host=ORA2000)(Port=1521)) 

I recently had a problem where the HOST wasn't the same as the machine name.
Fixed that and the problem went away.

Hope this helps out,
Durinda

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this option is not set so i assume default is OFF...
any other clue...

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Check the client's sqlnet.ora.  It can override the server config with
USE_DEDICATED_SERVER=ON setting.

Steve

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Hi,

I have configured the server to use MTS and still dedicated connections r
used.
What might be the reasondatabase is 8.1.6.3.4



LSNRCTL services
Connecting to (DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=IPC)(KEY=EXTPROC0)))
Services Summary...
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  PLSExtProchas 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  ora2000   has 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:76 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
The command completed successfully


init.ora looks like:

mts_dispatchers = TCP,5
mts_max_dispatchers=50 
mts_servers=20  
mts_max_servers=50 
LOCAL_LISTENER = (ADDRESS_LIST = (Address = (Protocol = TCP) (Host=ora2000)
(Port=1521))) 


Thanks
Harvinder
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RE: re-archiving a redo log file

2001-07-25 Thread Miller, Jay

Hmm, would it work to do an OS level copy so long as you get to the redo log
before it starts being written to again?
Just a random thought...

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I don't think, it's possible.
Most probably it checks 'archived' column in v$log.
Also, it keeps track of archived files in v$archived_log.
 
Igor 
  


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Is it possible to re-archive an already archived 
but still online redo log file? 

the 8.1.6 sql*plus manual says it is, but 
I can't get the syntax down right apparently. 

SQL  archive log 227 

returns a ORA-16013 (does not need archiving) error 
and 

SQL archive log 227 to '/tmp' 
returns 
SP2-0718  illegal arhicve log option 

Anybody done this? 
 
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OT -- RE: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster

2001-07-25 Thread Austin, Steve S

You're showing your age.  ;)

I'm more akin the the $6.0 E+06 homo sapien.  You know, a man barely
alive; we have the technology, blahblahblah -- all that Six Million
Dollar Man stuff (whose character was -also- Steve Austin for those who
haven't caught it in reruns).

It's amazing how much of that junk actually applies in this weird wired
world.  You wouldn't believe the bionic things my classmates teased me for
doing in 4th grade when that show came out in the 70s!

Since the wrassler has also made fame with *my* name, I've received phone
calls from all over the world (I live in Dallas, TX.)  The worst was from a
fellow in Japan who could speak four languages, but none of them English,
Spanish or French.  The best I could do was say No over and over again.
Sad.  

Now my number is unlisted and life is better.  Some of my more twisted
friends said I should offer to sell signed photographs, cash only.  I
already have enough karma, so I was straightfoward with all the kiddos.  :)

sa

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 Austin, Steve

Hey, didn't I see you on Monday Night Raw and Smackdown??  :o)

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We're using Sun Cluster 2.2 and a mix of VCS implementations, all on Solaris
-- 2.6, 2.7 and 8.  It seems likely our HP Service Guard will also migrate
to VCS as well.

The SC2.2 product has had more sensitivity to the Oracle version than the
VCS product.  It also seems to have more of its guts exposed, while VCS is
better encapsulated in its GUI.  I have no experience with SC3.0.

We don't use OPS here yet, but it looks like Veritas has an option to
support it; not sure if it's in the base VCS product or not -- knowing their
$trategie$, it probably i$n't included in the ba$e package.  Check out this
URL to see the press release on VERITAS Database Edition/Advanced Cluster
for Oracle that talks about supporting OPS:
http://www.veritas.com/news/press/PressReleaseDetail.jhtml?NewsId=9436

:)
sa
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We had a study made by a third party between Sun
cluster and Veritas cluster both version 2.X and 3.x

After that study, we have chosen Veritas cluster 2.x

Sun Cluster 3 requires Solaris 8, all our boxes are on
7 and Sun Cluster 2.X doesn't handle T300 disk box
which we have.  Sun software doesn't handle all Sun
hardware... 



 --- KC [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :  Steve,
 
 Thanks for your input, I had previously used HP
 Service Guard on HP-UX platform, it worked for us. I
 am now on Sun platform and looking at HA solution
 using either Sun or Veritas clustering solution, I
 also heard that the older version of Sun clustering
 is not very sophisticated compared to other
 clustering solution, are you using 2.x or the latest
 3.0, from what I read on Sun web site, v3.0 seems to
 do a lot more than the old version, any comments
 from the list?? The other things I need to check is
 rather OPS is supported with Veritas Cluster on Sun
 platform, anyone know??
 
 KC
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 I have used both and somewhat prefer VCS.  In
 both systems, we've had problems where the cluster
 was in an unknown state and any action to change the
 state was risky to all the services in the cluster. 
 This is rare for both products.
  
 Our Sun support required for us to pay them to
 certify our stuff before they'd support the
 implementation.  Don't know if you're subject to
 this too, but VCS has no such rule.  The tests were
 interesting, but we could conduct the tests without
 their involvement.
  
 Command-line jocks may at first prefer Sun, but
 I think Veritas is a better bet since it's not as
 tied to the hardware vendor, and is more likely to
 be common across Unixes, if you're in a site where
 you've got more than one Unix vendor's stuff to
 support, like I am.  
  
 We are in the process of migrating from Sun
 cluster to VCS, fyi.
  
 my 2¢
 Steve
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 Subject: Sun cluster vs Veritas cluster
 
 
 List,
  
 Just wondering if anyone on the list who had
 experience on both Sun clustering and Veritas
 clustering software share their experience on both
 products, strength and weakness or any comparison??
  
 KC
  

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RE: Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?

2001-07-25 Thread Miller, Jay

Hi Tom,

That's why I expected a 25% decrease in processing time (instead of reading
2 index blocks and 2 table blocks it read 2 index blocks and 1 table block).
But why would it give a 75% decrease?

Jay

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I think it's because the optimizxer did not have to go to the table b to
satisfy the query - it went to the index only.

does this make sense?

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional


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it's possible that the index was small enough to stay cached in the SGA?


From: Miller, Jay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Tuning question - Why did this index help so much?
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 08:31:28 -0800

The other week a new production process was running much more slowly than
anticipated.  A file needed to be sent out by 6:00pm and at the rate the
table was being populated it wouldn't complete until around 9:30pm.  The
production people and developers came to me for help and I  saw that the 
SQL
Explain Plan that was usually being executed (this would run a few million
times) was something like

select a.col1,a.col2,a.col3,b.col2
from a, b
where a.col4=b.col1
and a.col5=:b1

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   table b
   index b1 (range)

This looked pretty good, but it occurred to me that only one column was
being selected from table b, so if I added a index (b2) that combined col1
and col2 to table b then it wouldn't be necessary to read table b at all,
all the information would be in index b2.

This resulted in a plan of:

nested loops
   table a
   index a1 (unique)
   index b1 (range)

I did so on the fly (this was only a 4,000 row table so it took almost no
time to create the index).  I anticipated that it would cut about 25% off
the processing time (only 3/4 as many block reads).  Instead it cut about
75% off the processing time causing it to finish at 5:45 (I was a hero to
the developers and production people, but had to warn them not to tell 
their
management about it since I could get in trouble for not following the
Change Control Process).

My question is, where did the additional 50% efficiency come from?  What am
I missing?  I'm glad it worked so well, but would like to understand why...
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Re[2]:RE: Data load options

2001-07-25 Thread dgoulet

Mohammad,

That only works if you can truncate the table.

Dick Goulet

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Date:   7/25/2001 9:16 AM

Truncation was the solution in this case as I observed in the past that 
direct load option use empty blocks above HWM thus using lot of space above 
it. If it is possible target table should be truncated before such loads...

Regards


MOHAMMAD RAFIQ



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Lisa,

 SQL*Loader in direct path can cause you storage problems since it 
always
appends to the table(s) ignoring blocks on the free block list.  I found 
that
out after a developer was using it for our data warehouse.  At the end of a 
year
he had burned almost 100GB of disk  it kept increasing even though he was
trying to keep only a rolling 180 window.  On a hunch we exported the data,
truncated the table  imported the data back in.  The amount of tablespace 
being
used dropped 50%.

Dick Goulet

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Hi Sean,

Others have given you different options.  Here's some considerations:

1.  SQL Script.
*   Can be SLOW
*   May require intermittent commits in your script
*   Manual and error prone
*   Must go through SQL engine

2.  SQL Loader
*   Can be very fast (direct - bypassing SQL engine).
*   Direct path load will invalidate indexes.
*   You can keep track of rejected records easily (.bad file)
*   Dependent upon your file format being EXACT, no errors.

3.  Import
*   Requires minimal manual fiddling
*   Can be very slow - I once imported 150GB and it took ~3 days
*   Does not seamlessly handle all object types (INtermedia (domain)
indexes is one example)
*   Restarting an import will take a lot longer.  If your import fails,
be sure and truncate/drop all tables before starting again.
*   Have the option of not including indexes (INDEXES=N)
*   Can also reset your storage parms prior to import (export with
data=n, edit file [SSSHHH] and enter new storage parms / import, export with
data=y, import data with IGNORE=Y)

I'm sure others will have additional considerations to share.  My choice has
always been exp/imp.

Lisa Koivu
The Vicodin-enhanced DBA
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA

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  I'm trying to compile a list of options for loading data into an Oracle
  database on NT platform.  What I've come up with so far is:
  [1] SQL script that performs inserts, updates.
  [2] SQL Loader utility
  [3] Import utility
 
  Are there others?
  Anyone care to share experience based opinions on pros and cons of the
  methods?
 
 
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RE: MTS IS CONFIGURED BUT STILL DEDICATED CONNECTIONS USED

2001-07-25 Thread Harvinder Singh

i tried removing the spaces but it didn't help..if the client and server
r on the same machine ...
will it use ipc instead of tcp and if so do i have to configure dispacher
for ipc and mention ipc in local_listener.

-H

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A couple of things I would check.  I don't believe you need the ADDRESS_LIST
parameter, unless you will have multiples.  I would remove the spaces in the
parameter.  I would make sure that the HOST equals the machine name,
possibly make the entry upper case.  As foolish as it sounds, I've seen
these things make a difference.

Set it up to look like this and see if it helps.  LOCAL_LISTENER =
(Address=(Protocol=TCP)(Host=ORA2000)(Port=1521)) 

I recently had a problem where the HOST wasn't the same as the machine name.
Fixed that and the problem went away.

Hope this helps out,
Durinda

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this option is not set so i assume default is OFF...
any other clue...

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Check the client's sqlnet.ora.  It can override the server config with
USE_DEDICATED_SERVER=ON setting.

Steve

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Hi,

I have configured the server to use MTS and still dedicated connections r
used.
What might be the reasondatabase is 8.1.6.3.4



LSNRCTL services
Connecting to (DESCRIPTION=(ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=IPC)(KEY=EXTPROC0)))
Services Summary...
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  PLSExtProchas 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D004 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1956
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1393))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D003 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1952
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1391))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D002 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1948
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1390))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D001 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1944
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1387))
DISPATCHER established:0 refused:0 current:0 max:1022 state:ready
  D000 machine: ORA2000, pid: 1940
  (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=tcp)(HOST=ora2000)(PORT=1385))
  ora2000   has 1 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:0 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
  ora2000   has 6 service handler(s)
DEDICATED SERVER established:76 refused:0
  LOCAL SERVER
The command completed successfully


init.ora looks like:

mts_dispatchers = TCP,5
mts_max_dispatchers=50 
mts_servers=20  
mts_max_servers=50 
LOCAL_LISTENER = (ADDRESS_LIST = (Address = (Protocol = TCP) (Host=ora2000)
(Port=1521))) 


Thanks
Harvinder
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