Re: sqlldr

2002-04-26 Thread Stephen Andert



Ravi,
 
To the best of my knowledge, there is no limitation on the 
number of records that can be loaded at a time other than the size of your 
rollback segments. I have loaded 10's of millions of rows in a single sqlldr job 
by setting some parameters.  There are defaults that 
work, but don't perform very well.  To determine appropriate settings, you 
may want to read an article I wrote for O'Reilly & Associates (located 
at http://oracle.oreilly.com/news/oraclesqlload_0401.html) which 
gives the step-by-step directions on setting 2 of the key parameters 
(BINDSIZE and ROWS).  It's a pretty easy thing to do, but without knowing 
you data, the only advice I could give is that DIRECT is the best quick tuning 
fix if you can.
 
If you are going to be doing any serious data loading with SQL*Loader, 
Jonathan's book Oracle 
SQL*Loader: The Definitive Guide would be a good investment.
 
HTH
Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/25/02 10:13PM 
>>>i belive there is a limitation on the number of records that can 
be loadedfrom sqlldr at a time based on the bind array and rows default 
parameter.if i have a data file with more than 5000records(don't know the 
exactnumber) that needs to be imported using sqlldrwhat is the value i 
need to set for the "rows" and/or "bind array" for me toload the records to 
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Wait Event - Slave

2002-05-20 Thread Stephen Andert

Everything I've read tells me that slave wait events are non-issues,
that I shouldn't worry about them.  I'm wondering if they may be
pointers to some issues I think we are facing.  We are using Compaq
WildFire boxes with multiple QBB's running Tru64 Unix.  These boxes use
NUMA architecture and the os has not yet been patched so that NUMA and
Oracle will work well together (layman's terms :)

Can anyone tell me if the excessive slave waits (they are always in my
top 5 and usually the top one by several orders of magnitude) might be
related to this?

TIA for comments.

Stephen Andert

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OT: List slow today?

2001-08-09 Thread Stephen Andert



Other than during IOUG-A, I haven't seen this few messages.  Is my 
mail server eating messages or is it just a slow day?
 
Stephen 


RE: OT -- training

2001-08-13 Thread Stephen Andert

Christopher, 

On that same thought, I read the best response to a company who won't train their 
people because "then they'll leave".  

Which would you rather have happen?  Train people and have them leave or not train 
them and have them stay?  I know where I'd rather work.



Stephen Andert


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/13 12:53 PM >>>
Very common what you explained.

I think businesses are afraid to do training as they think you will become
more marketable and opt to leave.
If they are afraid of that, they should fix the problems or give more money
to make it so you would not want to leave.  If they themselves think your
going to leave because of training, they must already know it sucks and they
should fix it.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence  OCP  MCSE MCP A+ RAPTOR CNA
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Patrice,
 There is "resistance" to any training that I feel is necessary to further
my knowledge and/or enhance my understanding of the Oracle processes. Even
though I have money in the budget for such items I have to submit a business
case defining the gains to the company and after completing the course with
a passing grade the company will reimburse me the expenses for the course
only. I also have to sign a waver that I will pay the company back the full
cost of the course if I leave their employment before 365 days. Needless to
say I pay for everything myself and hope to write it off on taxes if they
ever get the bill signed into law. ROR mª¿ªm 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/13/01 11:46AM >>>
Just out of curiosity, how many days / weeks of real training did your
employer provide you with in the last couple of years?

"real" is in quotes, I don't mean the little 1 - 3 day seminars given by
CareerTrack and other "training" companies, or management-related stuff like
little MBA-flavoured certificates from universities.

Oh, and did the amount of training you received match what you were told
during your job interview?

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
Technology Services| Services technologiques
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Re: Netbackup with Oracle 817

2001-08-14 Thread Stephen Andert



Nbir, 
 
Well I'm no expert on backups, but we are in the process of rolling out 
rman and Veritas Netbackup across our company.  This includes several 
databases that are well over 200GB.  We have an ATL (Automated Tape 
Library) with around 300 slots and currently 10 drives.  We are having 
some, as yet undetermined, "issues" with NetBackup taking drives 
offline.  The rman piece seems to be working when the NetBackup piece 
cooperates.  
 
We are also working out differences between different dbas with regards to 
backup philosophy.  For example, rman does not need to shut the database 
down to get a "good" backup.  For some of us, this was difficult to 
comprehend how you can get a consistent backup while the database is up and 
running.  Also, different groups have different practices on how many 
archived redo logs to keep.  With rman, we are trying to standardize on 
length of time to keep them after they are backed up.
 
I haven't been involved with the script-writing pice, so I can't help you 
there, but I hope to get my hands a bit more dirty with B&R after I pass my 
performance tuning test.
 
Good Luck
Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/14/01 02:53PM 
>>>Hi Experts,Can somebody guide me towards Oracle database 
backupof around 200G with Netbackup and I really appreciateany document 
for Rman Scripts/Backup document likerestore or other test scenario. 
I know lots of big company has implemented it and I amtold to submit 
mine document in a week and sodesperately need all of ur advice and very 
greatfullif someone can help me all test scenario plus scriptThanks 
a ton in advanceNbir


RE: Comment on 'Practical Oracle 8i'

2001-08-16 Thread Stephen Andert



That's nothing, I've got 3 486's in my garage.  

 
Stephen
 
 
If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or drop me a 
note.
 
Stephen Andert480-445-2506>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
08/16/01 01:06PM >>>
i got a 75Mhz pentium sitting in my desk drawer :)
 
joe
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/16/01 03:45PM 
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For example.  100MHz Pentium is no where near 1/15 the speed > of 
the 1.5GHz> AMD.  So it remains a very difficult test to 
make.> Where in the world did you come across 100MHZ Pentium? 
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RE: OT: DBA tasks

2001-08-20 Thread Stephen Andert

Zig Ziglar (a great motivational speaker in case you aren't familiar with the name) 
refers to his wife of many years as a decided red-head "That is one day she woke up 
and decided to be a red-head."

Stephen 

If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or drop me a note.

Stephen Andert
480-445-2506

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/20 1:17 PM >>>
Grandpa was a redhead... I was born brunette but when I get in the sun it 
goes red... so I sometimes "help it along" 




>From: "Koivu, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: OT: DBA tasks
>Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 11:32:49 -0800
>
>  I'm only blonde on football game days, when I put on my blonde stripper 
>wig
>and braid it :)  A nice Nicole Kidman red would be a wise choice.
>
>I'm brunette and proud of it!  Just anything but blonde.  HA
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Monday, August 20, 2001 2:51 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:Re: OT: DBA tasks
> >
> > you go girl! :)
> >
> > do I have to have Barbie-blond hair though?  I'm thinking a nice,
> > brilliant
> > red myself
> >
> >
> > >From: "Koivu, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: OT: DBA tasks
> > >Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 09:38:58 -0800
> > >
> > >Ahem...  the female DBA's save the database, save the world, flatten 
>the
> > >evil people with her well-tuned martial arts skills, swims in icy cold
> > >water
> > >without showing one goose pimple on her Barbie-proportioned body,
> > impresses
> > >the Diet Coke guy, and then tells him "thanks but no thanks"
> > >
> > >and skips through the commercials on her Tivo after such an eventful 
>day.
> > >
> > >Sorry, couldn't let this one go  There's a script in here waiting 
>to
> > >come out but I'm playing with Perl and feel that Chris Bowes is better
> > >suited for this task :)
> > >
> > >Lisa Koivu
> > >aka. Angelina Jolie.
> > >Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
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> > > > Sent:   Monday, August 20, 2001 11:59 AM
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> > > >
> > > > And we do it in  30 minutes and still have time
> > > > for commercials
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Doing linear scans over an associative array is like
> > > >   trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi.
> > > >  - Larry Wall (creator of Perl)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We find the treasure, kill the bad guys, save the world and get 
>the
> > > > > girl.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think that about covers it :0)
> > > > >
> > > > > g
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi...
> > > > >
> > > > > I'am searching for a oracle dba task guide. A doc that
> > > > > especifi all the
> > > > > task
> > > > > of a oracle dba.
> > > > >
> > > > > javs
> > > > >
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Exporting partitioned tables

2001-08-21 Thread Stephen Andert



Greetings and salutations oh magnificent Oracles of Oracle, 
 
I am experiencing something that I don't understand.  (No comments 
from the peanut gallery!) When I do an export for a schema that contains a 
number of partitioned tables most of the time everything works fine.  

 
Sometimes however, the last partition of one object produces the following 
errors:
 
EXP-8: Oracle error 8103 encountered
ORA-08103: object no longer exists 
 
This error happens overnight and when I check in the morning (select 
count(*) from schema.table partition (P026);) and it always shows that I have 
rows.
 
I RTFM'd and that error message indicates that the object is gone.  
This object is not dropped and re-created by any process.  
 
Any ideas?
 
Stephen Andert
 
 


Re: How do they get the answer?

2001-08-21 Thread Stephen Andert



Well, 
 
to me it looks like 
    WHERE        subject_id IN 
(102, 105);will select 2 classes. Since there are a minimum of 2 teachers 
per class, this will select at least 4 teachers.  
 
Am I missing something?
 
Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/21/01 09:25AM 
>>>I am taking the Self-Test software test for the SQL exam and 
don't see how they get the answer to this problem.  They don't explain 
how it is arrived at.Any help you can give me will be 
appreciated.Thanks,Ken Janusz, 
CPIM--Examine the structure of 
the TEACHER table:Name        
        Null?        
TypeID            
    NOT NULL    
NUMBER(9)SALARY            
            
NUMBER(7,2)SUBJECT_ID        
    NOT NULL    
NUMBER(3)SUBJECT_DESCRIPTION        
    VARCHAR2(2)There are 200 teachers and 15 
subjects.  Each subject is taughtby at least 2 
teachers.Evaluate this PL/SQL 
block:DECLARE    v_pct_raise    
    number := 1.10;BEGIN    
UPDATE        teacher    
SET        salary = salary * 
1.10    WHERE        subject_id 
IN (102, 105);    COMMIT;END;Which result will 
the PL/SQL block provide?(A) Only two teachers will receive a 10% salary 
increase.(B) All of the teachers will receive a 10% salary 
increase.(C) At least four teachers will receive a 10% salary 
increase.(D) A syntax error will occur.Answer:(C) 
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RMAN Copies

2001-08-21 Thread Stephen Andert



Hello, 
 
We are in the process of learning and implementing RMAN.  
We are also in the process of implementing BCP (Business Continuity 
Planning).  We have a BCP machine with enough disk space to do a restore of 
our "production-critical" databases.  I need to be able to make a copy of 
the RMAN backup from one location, make a copy and overnight the tapes to our 
BCP location.  The problem I have is that we are multi-plexing the backups 
of several databases and I need to make a copy on to one set of tapes of just 1 
database.  
 
PLEASE tell me there is an easy way to do this!!!  I 
looked in the Oracle8i Recovery Manager User's Guide 
and Reference and found duplexing, but that will require more tape drives than 
we currently have available as well as some additional configuration of 
NetBackup that our Tape Operators are hesitant to undertake.
 
Thanks for any pointers, tips, 
suggestions, etc.
 
Stephen Andert
 
 



Re: OT: Unix - performance tuning (vmstat 5)

2001-08-22 Thread Stephen Andert



Try this:
var_pid=`echo $var_grep_vmstat | grep -v grep | (read u v w x 
y z; echo ${v} )`kill $var_pid
the grep -v grep will remove any lines with the word 
grep.  
 
HTH
Stephen
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/22/01 05:05AM >>>Hi 
Unix Gurus,I submit a job to monitor the CPU utilization etc every 15 
mins using thecommand vmstat 5.How do I kill the submitted unix 
process of the batch job ? I tried to kill the submitted process using a 
batch job using the followingcommand :var_pid=`echo $var_grep_vmstat | 
(read u v w x y z; echo ${v} )`kill $var_pidThis works if the output 
is $ ps -ef | grep vmstat   orahrms 11271 11263  0 
17:30:00 ?    0:00 vmstat 
5   orahrms 11612 11576  0 18:50:53 pts/11   0:00 
grep vmstatIf the output is as below, the program will not work $ ps 
-ef | grep vmstat   orahrms 11612 11576  0 18:50:53 
pts/11   0:00 grep vmstat   orahrms 11271 11263  0 
17:30:00 ?    0:00 vmstat 5Please 
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Standard SQLNET.ORA with multiple O_HOME's

2001-08-24 Thread Stephen Andert



Greetings fellow listers, 
 
We are starting to make the changes 
to sqlnet.ora files, I discovered that we have 9 separate files on one 
particular.  Most of the file is identical with the only variance appearing 
to be in the SQLNET.EXPIRE_TIME value which ranges from 10 to 300.  

 
I'm thinking that we could have a single file (maybe in 
/etc/) and create OS links from the various 
$ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/sqlnet.ora files.  Has anyone tried this or know 
of any reason why this wouldn't be a good idea?
We also have quite a number of hosts and have a standard tnsnames.ora that 
we ftp from a master location on a nightly basis and would like to do the same 
with a standard sqlnet.ora.  Any thoughts?
 
Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
Stephen Andert


RE: Data Center monitoring

2001-08-27 Thread Stephen Andert

Raghu,

Well, I/Watch is nice when it works.  While we were attempting to roll it out the 
first (and second) time, I left most of my "manual" old fashioned scripts running 
through cron.  Many times, things that were supposed to page or e-mail us from I/Watch 
didn't.  But sometimes they would.  It was just too unreliable.  My scripts are still 
in place and I've been spending time polishing them lately.

Also, the quest processes would sometimes spin out of control and crash the box (a 
mutiple-cpu unix box running Tru64 so no NT jokes).  I think they fixed that in the 
more recent version.

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/27 1:51 PM >>>
I/Watch is nice.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence 
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Hi Gurus,

I have number of Oracle8i instances  on HP-Ux in a 400 servers Data center!!

I want valuble suggestions from Gurus and who maintaining their real Data 
ceners.. I appreciate your help.

Thanks in advance
Raghu.



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Re: financial problems with fatcity.com

2001-08-29 Thread Stephen Andert



I second that motion.  I just spent over $100 to get my 2 
boys signed up for Cub Scouts and one of them has weekly dues of 
$1.00.  For me it $12/yr would be worth it.  Maybe offer a lifetime 
membership of $25 or something. 
My 2 cents worth
 
Stephen Andert
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/01 08:15AM 
>>>I think that much better than voluntary contributions will be 
somes*u*b*s*c*r*i*p*t*i*o*n fees - like $1 per month or better $12 per year. 
Iam sure thateverybody working with Oracle and living in US or UK or 
other developedcountry can afford such fees. We will not need to charge 
people fromdeveloping countries - I am sure these subscription fees will 
generate morethan $500 per month.Alex 
Hillman


RE: Lisa

2001-08-29 Thread Stephen Andert



Lisa, do you have a file of "titles" or do 
you keep coming up with new ones?  I read your messages just to see things 
like:
Dog Bone AdministratorThe Bootylicious DBA and many more
 
StephenNo funny sig line


RE: Oracle DBA With Internet Experience Needed in Harrisburg,

2001-08-30 Thread Stephen Andert



A lot cheaper that regular mail where he would have to pay for 
printing, paper, envelopes and postage. It's all relative.
 
Stephen
 
 
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Re: SQL*LOADER ERROR

2001-09-04 Thread Stephen Andert



Hello, 
 
Have you connected with "sqlplus username/password@qtel"?  If you did 
sqlplus without the @qtel, you are not using the listener.  In that case, 
you will probably want to get the listener running (or running correctly).  

 
HTH
 
 
Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/04/01 01:56AM 
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userid=msalah/msalah@qtel control=c:\test.ctlORA-12203: TNS:unable to 
connect destinationSQL*Loader-704: Internal error: ulconnect : 
OCIServerAttach [-1]But am able to connect with SQL*Plus with the same 
username/password.Why it's showing this error, then?.Am using 
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RE: Interesting News..

2001-09-05 Thread Stephen Andert



In fact today's Wall Street Journal quotes HP's CEO as saying 
the Compaq name will go away.  I guess running it into the ground would 
take too much time so she is just going to abandon the Compaq name.  They 
did say they plan to keep some of the "valuable sub-brands" like Presario.  

 
We currently only have HP-UX and Tru64 so it looks like one 
way or another if this deal goes through we will be affected.
 
FWIW
 
Stephen
 
 
If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or drop me a 
note.
 
Stephen Andert480-445-2506>>> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/05/01 12:01PM >>>More 
agreement.  How many companies did AT&T buy only to drive them into 
theground? How much advantage did Compaq take of the impressive 
Alphatechnology?  These mega mergers rarely produce anything 
much.Unless the HP strategy is to run Compaq's product line into the ground 
somore people turn to the HP products.  That one might 
work...Jay Miller-Original Message-Sent: Wednesday, 
September 05, 2001 7:16 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LI agree. First of all there is no certainty that the 
marriage will everbe consummed (there has been a lot of corporate engagement 
break-ups inthe past years. Remember GE/Honeywell, Jack Welch's apotheosis? 
Germanand French banks? Pharmacy?). There's too much overlap between the 
two(all those small NT servers ...), it will definitely translate 
intojob-axing, bitterness, and a lot of people fleeing the companies 
(notthe worst ones usually), which seldom has the best of effects 
oncustomers (there has been a time, during the Compaq/Digital merger, 
whenin the whole greater Paris area there was ONE field-engineer to 
changecontrollers and the like for Alpha servers. Fortunate that MTBF 
ishigh). I am ready to bet that before long it will be such a 
mess,whether the merger goes ahead or doesn't, that Ms Fiorina will 
bethanked with a handsome cheque and that champagne will flow at Sun 
andIBM. In comparison, DaimlerChrysler will look like a major 
successstory.S Faroult.Guy Hammond wrote:> > 
On the contrary, I'd say this is a godsend for Sun. Compaq made a mess> 
of truly epic proportions when they tried to integrate DEC and Tandem> 
into their operations. HP did just as badly with Apollo. There are going> 
to be bitter turf wars between the HP/UX and Tru64 (or Ultrix or> 
whatever it's called this week) camps, Alpha and PA-RISC, ProLiant and> 
whatever HP's x86 servers are called, and so forth. Sun will walk right> 
in and clean up in the workstation and midrange markets. And, when it> 
comes to shifting x86 boxes, neither HP nor Compaq could match the> 
efficiency of Dell, and in a commodity market, operating efficiency is> 
all that matters. This merger will go down in corporate history as a> 
mistake of epic proportions.> > Of course, I'm in the Solaris 
camp, so take my words in context :0)> > g> > 
-Original Message-> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:30 
PM> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> > I'm 
curious.  What happens to Tru64 or HP-UX?  One of> them's got 
to go, would'nt you think?  How about their> Unix servers?  I 
know they're both going to 64-bit> Itanium eventually, but can they 
support both product> lines?  Wonder how VAX/VMS is going to 
fare?  How does> this effect Sun?  I'd say this would have a 
negative> impact on Sun.> > It'll be interesting to see 
what product lines get cut> and which ones continue.   Should 
be fun to see how> things pan out over the next 12 to 18 months.> 
> mkb> > --- "Walthour, Jon (GEAE, Compaq)"> 
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HP Acquiring Compaq?> >> > Yow!> >> > 
That's big news!> >> > Anyone see this coming?  I would 
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Re: !! Where to contribute to keeping Oracle-l alive

2001-09-05 Thread Stephen Andert



It has been asked, but I haven't seen an answer yet (forgive 
me if I missed it) as to whether there will be a summary posted.  I would 
like to just see a total contributed.  I don't think anyone needs a 
detailed how it was spent since it was made clear that this would be used as 
start-up expense money.
 
Stephen
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User Query Tools

2001-09-10 Thread Stephen Andert



Hey all, 
 
I just got out from a meeting where I was told that some of our users are 
asking for a tool to do their own queries against our database so they wouldn't 
have to request reports and such from IS.  Oh BTW, they don't know (or feel 
the need to learn) SQL so they will be needing something with either a good GUI 
QBF or some kind of natural language interface.  
 
We are leaning against MS Query to avoid ODBC performance problems.
 
Does anyone out there have users like this?  Any product 
referrals with pros/cons?  
 
TIA
 
If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or drop me a 
note.
 
Stephen Andert480-445-2506


New York/East Coast !!!!

2001-09-11 Thread Stephen Andert

I sure hope our members on the East Coast are ok.  If anyone is out there and has 
access, I'd be happy to pass along any messages to family, etc. 

Let us know if you guys are ok.

Stephen Andert


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RE: New York/East Coast !!!!

2001-09-11 Thread Stephen Andert

I don't any connections in NY, but figured that if anyone there can pass a message 
through me (or anyone else that has an available phone line) to any family/friends 
outside of the area, it might be helpful. Especially if they don't have an open phone 
line.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11 9:25 AM >>>
Is there anyway we can submit names of family members in NY

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> Let us know if you guys are ok.
> 
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Re: Performance tuning

2001-05-30 Thread Stephen Andert



Azhar, 
 
I agree with the other responses (more RAM, don't use OPTIMAL on your 
RBS's) but would also suggest dropping all indexes except PK until the load 
is done, the rebuild them.  Also, does this table have any 
triggers?  If so, if can you disable them during the load, that will help 
speed up the load.  
 
For help in setting the ROWS and BINDSIZE parameters, there is an article 
of mine that O'Reilly published on their web site (http://oracle.oreilly.com/news/oraclesqlload_0401.html) 
which details my experience which resulted in some big performance gains.
 
HTH,
 
Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/30/01 02:19AM 
>>>HI ALL,We have to load almost 3 millions records of 
average row size of 150 bytes.We are importing data using sqloader with 
ROWS=4000 and bindsize=845 .We have adjusted the rollback segment to 
almost  10 m with 8 extents enoughfor single transaction size and 
considering 30% rollback overhead. Weadjusted the OPTIMAL TO 10 M to have 
avoid rollback extensionRollback segment, databuffer cache have hit ratio of 
100%.The loading was fast only for first 10 commits but then it slowed 
likesnail. LOADING TOOK 22 hours in the first run on ORACLE8i NT4 128 megs 
RAM.SGA figures in M 
:NAME 
VALUE -Fixed 
Size    
.0676384Variable Size    
239.02734Database Buffers   
39.0625Redo Buffers 
7.8203125 
-sum  
285.97779( we can't use direct path due to functions in sqlldr controlfile). 
.Couldn't figure out the bottleneck yet.Any ideas.TIAAzhar 
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Re: OT: Working from home

2001-06-13 Thread Stephen Andert



Mark, 
Well, in order to give you my 2 cents worth, lets answer those 
in order:
 
— Accountability: Work needs be get done whether in office or 
at home.  If it gets done and db's are running well, it shouldn't matter 
where it gets done from.  This is very hard for some managers to understand 
and one of the reasons I left my last job.  If the manager is open to 
results-based management, this won't be a problem.  We also overcome some 
of this by over-communicating when working at home.  For example things 
that don't generally warrant an e-mail when in the office, (like adding space to 
a tbs that is causing IWatch to chirp) get a quick "FYI, I took care of X" while 
working from home.
 
— Communication:  Our telecomm guys set us up so our 
phones can be set to ring at home.  Thus for the in-office user who calls 
our 4-digit extention, they don't even know we are sitting at home in 
shorts/t-shirt.  You also need a second line so you can be connected 
all day and still answer your phone.
 
— Unforeseen problems.  
1) What to do it remote access is down? If ETA is all day, drag yourself to 
the office. If 1-2 hours, read white papers/manuals, work on status report, 
project plan or anything else that you can do with software on your home pc. 

2) What if a meeting is scheduled on your work at home day?  Have 
someone conference call you in.  That is widely accepted in our company as 
we have a lot of projects that involve people at different locations.
— Specific company benefits:  
1) happier dba's = less turn-over.  Personally I work from home 1-day 
per week and enjoy the extra time and gas saved from not driving.  I 
also like wearing shorts and t-shirt.  
2) In many bigger cities, bigger companies are required to work on reducing 
the number of "single occupant vehicle miles" driven by their employees.  
Generally companies will encourage carpooling, bus riding, etc, but they also 
get credit for regular telecommuters.  In some areas, this is actually a 
huge motivator for companies.
3) I find I generally start work earlier and stop later when I'm at 
home.  Also lack of typical office interruptions makes this a good time for 
anything that requires concentration.  
 
HTH
Stephen
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/13/01 03:00PM >>>Hi 
All,I have a few off-topic questions for those of you who are allowed to 
workfrom home either occasionally or on a regular basis.  My department 
isputting a proposal together to present to management and we're looking 
forany information you could provide. How did you handle 
accountability?  Howdid you handle communication between work and 
home?  What were some of theunforeseen problems that you 
encountered?  Were there any specific companybenefits?  (This 
appears to be more a benefit to the employee than to thecompany.)  
Thanks to all who can 
reply.MarkProduction:        
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        Oracle 8iOracle Apps (Fin/Mfg) 
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Re: Bug 1367773

2001-11-15 Thread Stephen Andert



So far no one answered so I tried and was told 
 

Your search returned no hits!
I generally have the worst luck in looking up bugs.  I do ocassionally 
hit a few bugs, but most of the time nothin'.
 
HTH
 
Stephen 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/14/01 07:45AM >>>Hi 
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Microsoft Transaction Server hangs

2001-11-28 Thread Stephen Andert



I'm looking into this for a colleague.
 
Environment 
 
NT 4 SP 6 
Oracle server 8.1.5
 
At several times throughout the day, the connection hangs.  MTS seems 
to still be running, the db is still accessible.   Bouncing the MTS 
service resolves the problem for a while.
 
I have asked them to check listener status when this hanging takes 
place.
 
Has anyone encountered this?  
 
Any ideas where to look?
Stephen


RE: Microsoft Transaction Server hangs

2001-11-28 Thread Stephen Andert



Thanks for your response.   I have not worked with 
MTS, can you please tell me what I should have my colleague do to turn on 
tracing and identify the location of the log file?  They are in a different 
state and since it is not unix, I am a bit behind the curve and I have very big 
shots watching over my shoulder.  
 
Thanks.
 
Stephen
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/01 01:01PM 
>>>
Hello,
What about the oramts service? 
Is it stopping or something? you should turn the trace on.
 
Daniel

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  hangs
  I'm looking into this for a colleague.
   
  Environment 
   
  NT 4 SP 6 
  Oracle server 8.1.5
   
  At several times throughout the day, the connection hangs.  MTS 
  seems to still be running, the db is still accessible.   Bouncing 
  the MTS service resolves the problem for a while.
   
  I have asked them to check listener status when this hanging takes 
  place.
   
  Has anyone encountered this?  
   
  Any ideas where to look?
  Stephen


Re: Rollbacks - ORA-1555

2001-12-05 Thread Stephen Andert



Christine, 
 
Howdy neighbor.  I've almost eliminated 1555's.  It 
took some trial and error, but what we ended up with in one of our bigger db's 
is:
 
30 rollback segments
OPTIMAL (NULL)
minextents 20
initial = next = 4MB
6GB total space
 
We have between 400 and 500 interactive users, several high 
volume batch jobs and some DSS jobs.  
 
By getting rid of OPTIMAL, you avoid one of the more common 
causes of the 1555 where a rollback segment is shrunk while the data block is 
being used.  We schedule a shrink script to run and manually shrink all the 
rollback segments weekly.  At times some tasks can eat up more rbs, but 
since they are dba activities, we just shrink a single rollback segment at a 
time if it gets too big.  
 
HTH
 
Stephen Andert
 
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>>>
Greetings All
 
I am 
some what new to the list, so forgive me if I don't have the proper etiquette in 
addressing my issue. I have a database, 8.1.6, running on Windows NT, that 
currently has 5 rollback segments. The specs are as follows for each 
segment:
 
OPTIMAL 350M 
minextents 7 
maxextents unlimited 
initial 50M 
next 
50M
 
These 
segments are currently in one tablespace, for rollbacks only, which is sized at 
2.5 gig, and currently the segments are taking 1.7 gig, obviously aprox 750 meg 
free.
 
I have 
an application, written by our developers here, which is doing a 
functionality called "pricing". Within this process is alot of DML (updates and 
deletes) with some DDL inter-mixed. There is an auto-commit feature, which is 
currently commiting every 1000 records. There is also a locking feature, before 
the actual "fetches" the application is performing for it's cursors, and the 
developers are currently using "select * from table for update nowait" to lock 
the whole table for this process. The locking is in place because this 
particular process can use up to 5 different sessions.
 
Currently the stats of the rollbacks look like 
this:
 
data 
requests-  
3817488
 
CLASS   
COUNT-- --system undo 
header  0system undo 
block   0undo 
header 
3undo 
block  
1
 
 USN 
NAME    AVEACTIVE    
OPTSIZE WAITS WRAPS EXTENDS    SHRINKS  AVESHRINK 
-- -- -- - - --- -- 
--   0 
SYSTEM  
0    
0 0   
0  
0  0   2 
SV_ROLL0    
0  367001600 2 
0   
0  
0  0   3 
SV_ROLL1    
0  367001600 0 
0   
0  
0  0   4 
SV_ROLL2    
0  367001600 1 
0   
0  
0  0   5 
SV_ROLL3    
0  367001600 0 
0   
0  
0  0   6 
SV_ROLL4    
0  367001600 0 
0   
0  
0  0
 
6 rows 
selected.
 
TSPACE   
TOTAL   
USED   FREE--- -- 
-- 
--SV_ROLL_TSP   
2500   
1751    750
 
At 
times I have seen the "aveactive" column have some numeric value in it, but when 
the database and services are shutdown and brought back up, this number clears 
out.
 
My 
question is this: how much larger are these rollbacks supposed to be before I 
can eliminate the waits and wraps? More importantly, eliminate the undo headers 
and block. I have done alot of testing, with different sizing, and I feel like 
I'm chasing my tail. This is a major feature of our software, so it's not like 
it can be "ran at night" to differ to a timing issue. I have also noticed, that 
PMON doesn't really "shrink" appropriately, not back to a state like they are 
when they are first created. At this point, I guess I'm looking for some 
insight, advice as to what to specifically do to tune these segments a little 
more.
 
Thanks 
So Much, in advance
 
Christine 


ODBC & Microsoft Transaction Server

2001-12-11 Thread Stephen Andert

Hello, 

The application frequently (several times per day) hangs.  Restarting
the MTS (Microsoft Transaction Server) (Package shutdown) resolves the
problem and the users are able to work again.  The database appears to
be unaffected and appears ready to process.

The Oracle ODBC version is 8.01.74.00 7/24/01.
The Client on the MTS server is 8.1.7
The Server is 8.1.5 running on NT 4.0

I traced ODBC for awhile until after it hung the next time. Some of the
things I saw that looked like errors are:
SQLPOINTER 0x0003 (BADMEM)

DIAG [IM006][Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Driver's SQL SetConnectAttr
Failed(0)

SQLPOINTER [Unknown attribute 201]

Any help pointing me where to look for the root cause of this problem
would be appreciated.

Thanks 


If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note.

Stephen Andert
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Re: Recommenations for a DB conversion using SQL Loader

2001-12-12 Thread Stephen Andert

Depending on how much data you have, look at doing a little tuning of
the BINDSIZE and ROWS parameters. Send me a personal e-mail if you want
more information on that.


Stephen Andert
Scottsdale, Arizona
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/01 11:35 AM >>>
Ken,

A few things you could try here:

1) disable the foreign key constraints for the load
or
2) load the parent tables before the child tables

If you have a huge amount, you might want to consider dropping all of
the
indexes, except for the primary and unique key constraints.  (I don't
like
to take chances when it comes to data integrity.)  This would save you a
boatload of time.

Regards,

Jeff

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I am working on a one time DB conversion project for a state government
entity.  I have a DB (8.1.7 on W2000 server) setup without the
application
SW that I am using to load the data into from flat files.  When I get
this
data loaded I will then load it into the production tables at the client
site.  I will not be running any applications on this DB, it's for
conversion purposes only.  I am running into some constraint violation
problems since I am loading the data to each table one at a time.  Would
it
be prudent to disable the constraints until I get all the data loaded?
Any and all suggestions are welcome.
Ken

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RE: SqlLoader

2001-12-13 Thread Stephen Andert

Laura, 

One idea, select username and status from dba_user.  I would guess that
should work, but ...

Another thought, you say you can connect via sqlplus.  Is your sqlplus
connection of the form user/password@sid or just user/password?  If it
is the latter, your environment vairable ORACLE_HOME (echo $ORACLE_HOME
on Unix) decides what db to connect to and could be pointing you to a
different db.

HTH

Stephen Andert



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/01 23:54 PM >>>
Thank you for your reply.  The user does have DBA rights and also owns
the
table that is being referenced.  If it was a table rights issue I would
think I would have gotten 'table or view does not exist' message.  I
don't
think it is even getting connected to the database.
 
Laura

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Laura,
 
The username that you are trying to use, does this username own the
table
that is to be loaded, or does this username have DBA privileges?
 
Even though you can connect via sqlplus and/or svrmgr to a session, this
does not mean that you will be able to load data into any table that you
desire.
 
HTH
 
Regards,
 
Jeff
Tempe, AZ

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I have never had a problem with sqlloader before, but now when I run it
I
get an error 'invalid name/password' message.  I can sign on svrmgr and
through sqlplus with no problems.

Any ideas? 

Thanks, 
Laura 



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RE: SqlLoader

2001-12-13 Thread Stephen Andert

Laura, 

One idea, select username and status from dba_user.  I would guess that
should work, but ...

Another thought, you say you can connect via sqlplus.  Is your sqlplus
connection of the form user/password@sid or just user/password?  If it
is the latter, your environment vairable ORACLE_HOME (echo $ORACLE_HOME
on Unix) decides what db to connect to and could be pointing you to a
different db.

HTH

Stephen Andert



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/12/01 23:54 PM >>>
Thank you for your reply.  The user does have DBA rights and also owns
the
table that is being referenced.  If it was a table rights issue I would
think I would have gotten 'table or view does not exist' message.  I
don't
think it is even getting connected to the database.
 
Laura

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Laura,
 
The username that you are trying to use, does this username own the
table
that is to be loaded, or does this username have DBA privileges?
 
Even though you can connect via sqlplus and/or svrmgr to a session, this
does not mean that you will be able to load data into any table that you
desire.
 
HTH
 
Regards,
 
Jeff
Tempe, AZ

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I have never had a problem with sqlloader before, but now when I run it
I
get an error 'invalid name/password' message.  I can sign on svrmgr and
through sqlplus with no problems.

Any ideas? 

Thanks, 
Laura 



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Re: SQL*Loader-417 Error

2001-12-14 Thread Stephen Andert

Ken, 

You can't do a lot of things to the data in a direct path load.  You
could modify your source data (awk, grep, sed, etc.) so you wouldn't
need to reformat the date field and then if there are no additional
problems, you will still have a problem with the FK that you are seeing
in the conventional load.  

Not knowing the FK error, I can't really point you towards a solution
there.  I would probably just stick with conventional since it is easier
than mucking around with your source data.  FK violations are good. They
mean you are not putting garbage into your database so you won't get
GIGO.

If you provide more info on your layout and the FK error I'm sure
someone will be able to help.
If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note.

Stephen Andert
Scottsdale, Arizona
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/13/01 15:52 PM >>>
I am getting the following error for this line of code in my control
file

Any ideas of how I can get around this?  When I try a conventional path
load
I get a FK constraint error (not on this field).

creation_date "to_date('01/01/2002','dd/mm/')",

SQL*Loader-417: SQL string (on column CREATION_DATE) not allowed in
direct
path.


Thanks,
Ken Janusz, CPIM 
Database Conversion Lead 
Sufficient System, Inc.  
Minneapolis, MN

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Re: Becoming a DBA questions

2001-12-31 Thread Stephen Andert

1. Depends on the company/part of the country and the economy.
2. State your experience with other databases. Once you get Oracle up
and running at home, add that so they know you have installed it (IMHO
installing on Linux is more impressive as it is very close to unix, but
doing it under windows is better than nothing.) Don't say "looking for
entry-level Oracle dba job" in your mission statement.  Say something
like "looking for the opportunity to move my proven database design and
administration skills to a new level with Oracle" or something to that
extent.
3. If you are good at self-study, Oracle has online learning that
appears pretty reasonable ($99/month or something like that).  But get
yourself an Oracle installation to practice on first.
4. Quite possible to get a job with self-study and training.  Passing
your OCP tests will help you get that first job.  After that it is nice
to put on your biography when you submit papers to present at the
conferences and user groups.
6. I'm not in the office today, but I'm sure someone will correct me on
the title, but the two books I think are great are
a. Oracle 8i dba from Oracle Press. I think that is the one that has a
great example of real-life paper to database that explains things very
well.
b. DBA 101 by Rachel Carmichael (and others). I haven't had the chance
to read it yet, but I've got a friend who is an aspiring dba so I've
looked at it and he really loves it.  And since I'm a big fan of
Rachel's work, I have to recommend it.
8. Well, I have been working with databases for many years. But my
first Oracle job was an accident.  I was hired for other skills that I
had and the day I started my new manager said "the Oracle DBA is
leaving. You've got a lot of database experience on your resume. Want to
be our Oracle DBA?"  The rest is history.  My advice to you is to get
Oracle installed and decide on a project that you can use and maintain. 
I built a contact manager using an Access front-end.  I kept learning
new ways to improve the design and adding new features.  Besides coming
in very handy for job searches, it gave me something to discuss when
networking and someone would hear that I worked with databases and ask
what I had worked on recently.  I would also recommend looking up a
local user group (start at www.ioug.org and click on the User Group
link). Attend and make friends. These will be your peers and if you're
lucky, you may find someone that will become your mentor.  They may not
be in a position to hire you, but they (we) are generally connected to
the pulse of the hiring market and know when someone is looking to
expand or hire a replacement.  They can also help you learn new things
and correct any misconceptions you have.  At the social portion of the
event (most user groups have conversation time) find someone who has
been a dba for a number of years and ask them if you can talk to them. 
Explain what your understanding of something is and then pay attention
as they either correct you or add to your knowledge.  Before you know
it, you will be sitting in an interview and the interviewer will ask you
to explain how to use pctfree and you will know from your conversations
and testing.  

Good luck.  
  

Stephen Andert
Scottsdale, Arizona

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/31 2:00 AM >>>
> Questions for a Database Administrator: 
1. What is the average salary range for an entry-level DBA position? Or
a 
position for someone who is just starting out as a DBA?

2.  In a job resume, should I request an entry-level position or would
that 
set me up for no phone calls?

3.  What are some steps I should take to becoming a DBA w/ the
background 
that I have (ie. generated databases w/ MS Access)? 

a) Recommended training/education in Los Angeles area?

b) Where do you recommend I study & is online training valuable?

4.  If I could learn Oracle software on my own through Independent
study 
(books & reference sites), could this be sufficient enough to go about
to get 
a job?  

a)  Is the OCP certification necessary?

b) If I took this independent study route instead of formal training
from 
like a vocational school, would the steps to getting a job (or even my
OCP 
certification) be the same?  Or would it be more difficult without
formal 
training?

5.  What are some valuable books and resources to aid in my training? 


6.  How much does Oracle9i cost & would it be worth it to get since i
want to 
learn?  Are there evaluation copies out there that I can get my hands
on?

7.  What are the basic introductory courses/resources/training I could
do to 
learn or get started in DBA training?

8.  Basically, please list the steps you took to become a DBA (starting
with 
education/training to job entry) and how you sould suggest I should go
about 
starting to learn the fundamentals and then more in depth?

Thank you!!  I really appreciate your help

RE: Table MONITORING

2002-01-02 Thread Stephen Andert



In one version (I think is was 8.1.6.x.x) analyze stale 
didn't work right.  
In 8.1.7 (releases the we've tried, .0 and .2), it didn't work 
for partitioned tables.  The monitor piece appears to work, so one of 
the other dba's here wrote a script using all_tab_modifications and dynamic sql 
to handle this.  It get's tricky with global indexes and big partitioned 
tables because some days the whole thing finishes in a couple minutes while when 
a table is stale enough that it analyzes the whole index.  But it's working 
better than before.  
 
Stephen 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/01/02 04:35PM 
>>>Paul,The bug actually says:"Rediscovery 
Information:You will see this bug when using dbms_stats.gather_xxx_stats and 
:1. An invalid granularity is supplied2. The GATHER STALE or GATHER 
EMPTY options are used3. The procedure call does not seem to 
work.Workaround:Correct the granularity parameter"So, 
provided you spell the granularity parameter correctly, this bug doesnot 
apply.We are using monitoring and gather_xxx_stats on NT under 81714 and 
it seemsto be working ok    (ie num_rows is being updated 
correctly).Are you aware of any other bugs relating to monitoring / 
gather stats?(I know of bug 1407738 relating to table names > 28 
characters).Regards,Bruce Reardonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original 
Message-Sent: Saturday, 29 December 2001 10:00The 
DBMS_STATS.GATHER_SCHEMA_STATS procedure (with the GATHER STALEoption), 
which uses the information produced when a table is inMONITORING mode, does 
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Re: Analyzing partitioned tables

2002-01-03 Thread Stephen Andert



Here is what we use which also incorporates using our own definition 
of STALE with monitoring on.  It includes indexes as well as 
partitioned and non-partitioned tables as well as non-monitored tables.
 
HTH
 
   select 'analyze table ' || '${SCHEMA}.' || 
a.table_name   || 
' compute statistics;' from 
dba_tables a, all_tab_modifications 
b where  a.owner = 
upper('${SCHEMA}') 
and    b.table_owner = 
a.owner 
and    a.table_name = 
b.table_name 
and    a.partitioned = 
'NO' and    
(a.num_rows is 
null  
or 
((b.inserts+b.deletes+b.updates)*100) 
/ decode(a.num_rows,0,1,a.num_rows) > 
${PERCENTAGE}  
or b.truncated = 'YES')
 union select 'analyze table ' || 
'${SCHEMA}.' ||   
a.table_name || ' partition (' 
||   
b.partition_name || ') compute 
statistics;'    from 
dba_tab_partitions a, all_tab_modifications 
b    where a.table_owner = 
upper('${SCHEMA}')    and   
b.table_owner = a.table_owner    
and   a.table_name = 
b.table_name    and   
a.partition_name = 
b.partition_name    and (a.num_rows 
is 
null    
or 
((b.inserts+b.deletes+b.updates)*100)    
/ decode(a.num_rows,0,1,a.num_rows) > 
${PERCENTAGE}    
or b.truncated = 'YES')union  select 'analyze index ' || 
'${SCHEMA}.' || index_name 
||   
' compute statistics;'    from 
dba_indexes    where 
table_owner=upper('${SCHEMA}' )    
and   index_name not in (select distinct 
index_name    
from 
dba_part_indexes    
where 
owner=upper('${SCHEMA}')    
and locality = 'LOCAL')    and 
table_name 
in    
(select distinct a.table_name    from 
dba_tab_partitions a, all_tab_modifications 
b    where a.table_owner = 
upper('${SCHEMA}')    and   
b.table_owner = a.table_owner    
and   a.table_name = 
b.table_name    and   
a.partition_name = 
b.partition_name    and (a.num_rows 
is 
null    
or 
((b.inserts+b.deletes+b.updates)*100)    
/ decode(a.num_rows,0,1,a.num_rows) > 
${PERCENTAGE}    
or b.truncated = 'YES'))union select 'analyze 
table ' || '${SCHEMA}.' 
||    
table_name || ' compute 
statistics;'    from 
dba_tables    where owner = 
upper('${SCHEMA}')    and   
monitoring = 'NO';
 
If you have any questions, please feel free to call me or drop me a 
note.
 
Stephen AndertScottsdale, Arizona
 
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>>>Good morning everyone,Can anyone give me the command to 
analyze a partitioned tabled?  To analyzethis table unpartitioned I 
use:  analyze table schema.table_name computestatistics;I am 
partitioning it into 6 partitions and want to compute statistics oneach 
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Re: Becoming a DBA questions

2002-01-03 Thread Stephen Andert



Actually, I passed it on to my supervisor with a brief 
(cynical) comment.
 

 
Stephen>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/03/02 03:35PM 
>>>Paul, just goes to show how many people on the listserv have me 
in theirkillfile, since you're the only one that caught 
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Re: Template for documenting database

2002-01-07 Thread Stephen Andert

Rick, 

A while back, there was a document that a lister assembled and made
available.  It is a wider scope that just the data model itself.  While
not perfect,  I have used it to get a handle on the whole system when I
stepped in to do an analysis of a system.  If you want it, send me an
e-mail off-list.  

Stephen Andert
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/07 11:02 AM >>>

Hi All,

I have come into a situation where most of the database systems are
not
very well documented.  Does anyone
have any templates,resources,links that may provide either a template
or
example of what should be documented?

Thanks
Rick


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Problem with standby database & listener

2002-02-21 Thread Stephen Andert



Fellow dba's, 
 
We have come across a weird problem with a standby database. 
Every time we issue "alter database mount standby database" on 
the standby database, the primary database fails to connect through 
listener. It becomes OK after primary database is shutdown and restarted — of 
course this can is not an acceptable solution since the standby will be 
opened every week for reporting.
 
Anyone experience this before?  Any direction would be 
appreciated.
 
Thanks
 
 
 
 
 
 
Stephen AndertScottsdale, 
Arizona


RE: RMAN restore to different machine

2003-11-24 Thread Stephen Andert
More food for thought:

There is a good chance that the hardware platform is different.  I
think that RMAN is not a valid way of changing to a new platform and you
would need to export/import.  I'm certain the experts on the list will
correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/24/03 11:54AM >>>
Randy
   First, you may want to investigate your company's attitude toward
recovering their proprietary data on your personal machine.
   I can give you some ideas on your task, but my experience is on
1)Unix,
and 2) Oracle 8i. 
   I would recommend you purchase Robert Freeman's book Oracle9i RMAN
Backup
& Recovery. Well worth the money.
   In Oracle8i I wasn't able to extract the control file from the RMAN
backup, so I just backed that up separately. But I think Robert's book
describes how to do that.
   I never worried about the init.ora file in Oracle8i, relying on the
normal system backup to back that up. You could probably either copy
the
spfile from your production system (if you tell me you don't have
access to
that system, then you'll really concern me about what you are trying to
do)
or create a dummy init.ora to get the instance started.
   I don't know if you used the controlfile or catalog backup to create
this
RMAN backup. I use the catalog backup, but found it easier to recover
using
just the controlfile. 
   The one sticky point is that RMAN will want its backup pieces in the
same
path that it backed them up. I haven't found any way of changing that.
In
Unix you can fool RMAN by creating a link. When you say that you
couldn't
get RMAN to look at the CD drive, that may be the problem you are
encountering. If you are using Windows, perhaps you could find the
drive
letter used to create the backup and use that same drive letter on
your
personal machine.
   You can change the location where RMAN will restore the files with
the
SET NEWNAME command for each data file.
   RMAN will restore the database with the original instance name.
   Hope this is of some assistance.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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I have an online backup of my 9i production database on CD.  I want to
restore it to my home PC, which has a completely different file
structure
and an empty database.  I did the backup with rman.  I spent most of
Saturday trying this and can not even get rman to look at the backup
set on
the CD.  I'd be real happy if someone can just explain how to restore
the
spfile and the control file.

Thanks
Randy

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Re: Parse Vs Execute

2003-11-26 Thread Stephen Andert
Here is what I use to monitor my cursor use.  If session_cached_cursors
is at or near 100%, I increase is and continue to monitor.  On the
system I just checked I'm up to 500.  This reduced my parse counts for
some operations.

The other thing is whether there are any compiler flags that need to be
set to allow client connections to reuse cursors.  Setting that and
recompiling will make a huge impact.

Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving.
Stephen

  1  select
  2'session_cached_cursors'  parameter,
  3lpad(value, 5)  value,
  4decode(value, 0, '  n/a', to_char(100 * used / value, '990') ||
'%')  usage
  5  from
  6( select
  7max(s.value)  used
  8  from
  9sys.v_$statname  n,
 10sys.v_$sesstat  s
 11  where
 12n.name = 'session cursor cache count' and
 13s.statistic# = n.statistic#
 14),
 15( select
 16value
 17  from
 18sys.v_$parameter
 19  where
 20name = 'session_cached_cursors'
 21)
 22  union all
 23  select
 24'open_cursors',
 25lpad(value, 5),
 26to_char(100 * used / value,  '990') || '%'
 27  from
 28( select
 29max(sum(s.value))  used
 30  from
 31sys.v_$statname  n,
 32sys.v_$sesstat  s
 33  where
 34n.name in ('opened cursors current', 'session cursor cache
count') and
 35s.statistic# = n.statistic#
 36  group by
 37s.sid
 38),
 39( select
 40value
 41  from
 42sys.v_$parameter
 43  where
 44name = 'open_cursors'
 45*   )

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/03 11:14AM >>>
Hi List,

Almost fro all SQLs I am getting Prase count is same as Execute count.
How to reduce parse count?

1) We are using bind variable
2) session_cached_cursors set to 100

  
  call count   cpuelapsed   disk  querycurrent 
  rows
--- --   -- -- --
--  --
Parse   11  0.01   0.02  0  0 
0   0
Execute 11  0.00   0.00  0  0 
0   0
Fetch   22  0.01   0.00  0 33
44 110
--- --   -- -- --
--  --
total   44  0.02   0.02  0 33
44 110

Any somebody give more hint on this?

Thanks
Jay

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Strange behavior

2004-01-07 Thread Stephen Andert
Greetings fellow-DBA-folk:

When I run several queries, I am getting very strange results.  
Selecting * from apple returns the expected data records, but count(*)
does not.
Selecting anything other than * from apple says no records.   
The subquery for pear works fine on it's own.
Selecting anything other than * from apple returns the expected records
when about 900+ values are placed literally in the subquery as shown in
example 4 below.   

Am I missing something?  Anyone have a direction for me to look for the
cause of this?

Thanks
Stephen

EX 1
select rowid from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 2
select rownum from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 3
select * from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 4
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in ( 7009 , 7010 , 7011 , 7012 , 7013 , 7014 , 7015 ,
7016 , 7017 , 7018 , 7019)
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 5
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null;

COUNT(*)

   0


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Re: Strange behavior

2004-01-07 Thread Stephen Andert
Mike,

Thanks for the tip, but I have already prefixed the owner for both
tables so that shouldn't be a problem.  That did give me an idea for som
additional testing.  When I made a smaller copy of the PEAR table, all
queries work correctly.  This tells me there might be something "unique"
about the original table. 

I'll be doing more testing.  Stay tuned and I'll post updates as I make
new discoveries.

Thanks
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/07/04 01:29PM >>>

A good first place to check is that there are no other objects (synonym
is a frequent culprit).

try:

select object_name,object_type
from dba_objects
where object_name = 'APPLE';


This will tell you if there is anything else out there with the same
name.

HTH,
Mike



   
            
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Greetings fellow-DBA-folk:

When I run several queries, I am getting very strange results.
Selecting * from apple returns the expected data records, but count(*)
does not.
Selecting anything other than * from apple says no records.
The subquery for pear works fine on it's own.
Selecting anything other than * from apple returns the expected
records
when about 900+ values are placed literally in the subquery as shown
in
example 4 below.

Am I missing something?  Anyone have a direction for me to look for
the
cause of this?

Thanks
Stephen

EX 1
select rowid from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 2
select rownum from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 3
select * from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 4
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in ( 7009 , 7010 , 7011 , 7012 , 7013 , 7014 , 7015
,
7016 , 7017 , 7018 , 7019)
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 5
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null;

COUNT(*)

   0


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RE: Strange behavior

2004-01-07 Thread Stephen Andert
alter session set sql_behavior = 'normal'
  *
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-02248: invalid option for ALTER SESSION

Proof that there is nothing 'normal' about me 

I ran my subquery separately looking for null's and it doesn't look
like I have any.  Here is what I did.  Let me know if you think this
would report any nulls.

select count(pearinternal) from common.pear
where pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN';

COUNT(RPIINTERNAL)
--
  5347

select count(pearinternal) from common.pear
where pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN'
and pearinternal is null;

COUNT(PEARINTERNAL)
--
 0

select count(pearinternal) from common.pear
where pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN'
and pearinternal is not null;

COUNT(PEARINTERNAL)
--
  5347


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/07/04 02:04PM >>>
alter session set sql_behavior = 'normal'
/

seriously ... me thinks that you have a NULL value returned by your
subquery.

Raj



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Mike,

Thanks for the tip, but I have already prefixed the owner for both
tables so that shouldn't be a problem.  That did give me an idea for
som
additional testing.  When I made a smaller copy of the PEAR table, all
queries work correctly.  This tells me there might be something
"unique"
about the original table. 

I'll be doing more testing.  Stay tuned and I'll post updates as I
make
new discoveries.

Thanks
Stephen
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RE: Strange behavior

2004-01-07 Thread Stephen Andert
Mark,

Good idea, but no, the sub-select only returns numbers.

Thanks
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/07/04 01:09PM >>>
Stephen,

Do any of your sub-selects (the queries inside the IN() clause) return
NULL?  If so, that will definitely cause zero rows to be returned by
the
outer query.

-Mark

Mark J. Bobak
Oracle DBA
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Greetings fellow-DBA-folk:

When I run several queries, I am getting very strange results.  
Selecting * from apple returns the expected data records, but count(*)
does not.
Selecting anything other than * from apple says no records.   
The subquery for pear works fine on it's own.
Selecting anything other than * from apple returns the expected
records
when about 900+ values are placed literally in the subquery as shown
in
example 4 below.   

Am I missing something?  Anyone have a direction for me to look for
the
cause of this?

Thanks
Stephen

EX 1
select rowid from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 2
select rownum from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 3
select * from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 4
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in ( 7009 , 7010 , 7011 , 7012 , 7013 , 7014 , 7015
,
7016 , 7017 , 7018 , 7019)
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 5
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null;

COUNT(*)

   0


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Re: Oracle8i on Linux

2004-01-13 Thread Stephen Andert
Seema,

Try this site.  While it is about 9i, some of the same issues will appear in the 8.1.x 
install.

http://www.puschitz.com/InstallingOracle9i.shtml 

Also, go to www.google.com/linux and search for +oracle +"error message" and look 
through the responses.  

HTH

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/13/04 10:04AM >>>
Hi,
I have 256mb RAM,60GB of hard disk,P3 MACHINE.I'm having installation of 
oracle 817 on linux 7.2.
I got error during oracle relinking.DOes any one have such problem earlier?
Let me know if some one had such installation in past.ANy thoughts are most 
welcome.
thx
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Strange behavior - update

2004-01-15 Thread Stephen Andert
Hello again,

Sorry if this is the 2nd msg in a short time, but Oracle Support amazed
me with their quick response this morning and I haven't seen many
messages (or any from me) on the list this morning.

I promised to keep you updated on this strangeness.  After further
testing, we have discovered that the queries returning the wrong values
return the correct values when /*+rule */ is added.  I don't like
telling my developers that until I have a better solution, so we are
still working a TAR with the folks at Oracle Support who have come up
with this.

UPDATE:
===

This appears to be related to the bugs referenced above. Bug 2700474 is
fixed in the 9.2.0.4 patch set.

ACTION PLAN:

1. Without the rule hint if you alter the session as listed below are
the correct results returned?
SQL>alter session set "_complex_view_merging"=false ;
Then execute the query without the rule hint.
2. If this returns the correct results, the parameter can be set at the
database level.

or

3. To obtain a bug fix, the latest patch set (9.2.0.4) can be applied.

"_complex_view_merging"=false did not work in my test, so it looks like
we have more motivation to continue working towards 9.2.0.4.

Thanks for your troubleshooting help.
Stephen

->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->
Greetings fellow-DBA-folk:

When I run several queries, I am getting very strange results.
Selecting * from apple returns the expected data records, but count(*)
does not.
Selecting anything other than * from apple says no records.
The subquery for pear works fine on it's own.
Selecting anything other than * from apple returns the expected
records
when about 900+ values are placed literally in the subquery as shown
in
example 4 below.

Am I missing something?  Anyone have a direction for me to look for
the
cause of this?

Thanks
Stephen

EX 1
select rowid from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 2
select rownum from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

no rows selected

EX 3
select * from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 4
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in ( 7009 , 7010 , 7011 , 7012 , 7013 , 7014 , 7015
,
7016 , 7017 , 7018 , 7019)
and appletermd is null
and rownum < 10 ;

--- 9 rows returned, I removed them for confidentiality reasons ---

EX 5
select count(*) from common.apple
where appleinter1 in (select pearinternal from common.pear where
pear_clnt_src_cd = 'CCN')
and appletermd is null;

COUNT(*)

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Re: List problems

2004-01-15 Thread Stephen Andert
Jared/Bruce:

Is this still being worked on?  I'm not seeing a lot of volume nor
anything I've sent recently.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/14/04 07:54AM >>>

Folks,

It seems that a fair number of emails are not
being retransmitted to the list.  Some of mine
and a few others have not appeared in list traffic
sent out to subscribers.

Searching by author at fatcity.com reveals that 
the posts made it there, but either are not being
sent out, or getting shanghaied along the way.

I'll let you know when I find out.

I am of course, assuming that some of you will
get this one...

Jared




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Re: most practical 9iR2 features?

2004-01-15 Thread Stephen Andert
Brad, 

- External Tables have the potential to be WOW and when properly used
instead of SQLLDR can meet #1 & 4.
- Resumable transactions

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/15/04 10:14AM >>>
Hey listers

I am doing some research and would like to get (in very short answers)
features of 9iR2 that folks have implemented that meet the following
goals:

1. Ease administration
2. Are not marketing crap
3. Are not already in 8.1.7
4. Increase response time and or perfromance

A quick bullet list would be way cool of stuff that make you puff up
and say
"...this is so cool"

We are going to be moving our MRP system from 8.1.7 to 9iR2 this year
and
I'd like to get a feel for which items can help our old MRP app.

Reply direct if you desire.

We'll be implementing a new box with a SAN and so we already have some
plans
for actually using some features in 8i that were not feasible on our
old
AutoRAID. (There's nothing like getting a new box...)

(I am already reading the new features doc and another doc by Howard
Rogers)


Thanks in advance

Brad O.

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Re: ADMIN: Status of list server systems (and update about

2004-01-19 Thread Stephen Andert
Bruce,

My hat is off to your hard work to keep lists like this running.  I
know that I (and I'm sure many others) appreciate the huge brain trust
that has come together here.  

Thanks and keep up the good work!!!

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/19/04 06:39PM >>>
Folks -- 
 
I have good news and bad news. ;-)  First the good news: 
 
Several people had mentioned that they've sent messages to some lists
but have not seen the posts arrive back to them.  These messages DID
appear in the archives though.  This started roughly 12-Jan-2004.  I had
previously researched this issue but could find no reason for it
happening, nor a solution.  Up until today, that is. 
 
The cuplrit was one of my load balancers for mailing list traffic.  It
was handling traffic correctly on some of the machines, but squirreling
away messages sent to one specific server.  I'd estimate about 1/8th of
the messages sent to mailing lists since 12-Jan-2004 were not
redistributed properly.  I have since found and fixed the problem, so
this shouldn't happen in the future.  I suspect I was only able to
re-send a portion of the missing messages, so my apologies for anyone
who posted a message that didn't make it to a list.  Also, my apologies
to everyone who has to deal with the increased traffic of the old
messages, plus current messages, plus the inevitable onslaught of
re-posts that will occur in the next few days.  Please be patient with
each other. 
 
So the good news was: problem found, problem fixed, some catch up done,
shouldn't happen again. 
 
The bad news is that this morning (roughly 7am PST), a construction
crew near Fat City cut through a section of telecom cable that was
critical for our connection to the net.  They've been working feverishly
on it all day, but Fat City was off the net most of the day.  Until
about 3pm PST.  I believe things are about back to normal right now, but
there's always a ramp-up time to truly get back to normal.  My apologies
to anyone who was affected by our downtime. 
 
If you have any questions or concerns about anything, please let me
know. 
 
Thanks, 
Bruce Bergman 
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Re: AQ

2004-01-20 Thread Stephen Andert
However... 

do not blindly treat SQL*Net messages as Idle waits.  They can be
important indicators of networking issues.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/20/04 08:24AM >>>
It is defined as below in the Reference Guide: 

"The session is waiting on an empty OLTP queue (Advanced Queuing) for a
message to arrive so that
the session can dequeue that message." 


I would treat it as an Idle Wait, similar to, SQL*Net message from
client. 

- Kirti 

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> Is "queue message" an idle or an non-idle wait event?  I have looked
through
> the docs at tahti and metalink and can't find much info on AQ.  Does
anybody
> know where there are resources on this topic?
> 
> thanks,
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RE: ORA-904 after table rename

2004-01-20 Thread Stephen Andert
One thing I've been looking for is a way to set a string parameter in
another session, The two you mention handle INTEGER and BOOLEAN.  I want
a way to set TRACEFILE_IDENTIFIER to a string in another session to make
it easier to identify trace files.

Any ideas?

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/20/04 01:39PM >>>
You can also use DBMS_SYSTEM.SET_INT_PARAM_IN_SESSION and
DBMS_SYSTEM.SET_BOOL_PARAM_IN_SESSION, in lieu of oradebug.

-Mark

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On 01/20/2004 02:59:35 PM, Tanel Poder wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Note that when you set an event with alter system, it will only
apply
> for
> new sessions created, not for any existing ones.

And that, exactly is the problem. First, when you set event using
alter system, the setting is system wide. Second, if you want to
inspect a session that is currently executing, you can't. Oradebug
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Re: Metalink on the blink

2004-01-22 Thread Stephen Andert
I've just logged in and reviewed an old TAR and did a survey on a closed
TAR.

Maybe it's you :)

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/04 07:59AM >>>
Is anyone else having problems with Metalink this morning
or is it just us?  We can't log in at all.

Matt


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RE: Startup Migrate

2004-01-22 Thread Stephen Andert
Joe, 

I didn't do that many, but the 6 or so times that I have used it, it
worked fine.  

>From what I read, it basically does a startup restrict, IIRC.

Have fun,
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/04 02:29PM >>>
Joe - I just know that it works. I used it to upgrade about 20
instances.

Dennis Williams
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I'm looking at the notes to apply patch 4 to Oracle 9.2.0.3.  After 
installing the products.jar file, one of the steps is to run

startup migrate

then run catpatch.sql

I've looked on technet as well as the documentation CD and can not
find
any info on startup migrate.

Can someone point me in a direction to find out about this?  All I can

find is that it's new in 9.2.  

Thanks,
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Re: OT: Solaris: Finding the cause for disk space growth

2004-01-23 Thread Stephen Andert
Naveen, 

Since you are new to Solaris, how new are you to unix/linux?  If you
are already aware of anything, I apoligize:

spool the output of df -k  to a file.  I really like the script command
for this.  Wait some time (long enough for more disk to get used) and do
it again (rename the first file if you used script).  Then 
diff list1 list2 
This should tell you which mount point changed.

Since you are asking this in an Oracle forum, I'll guess that the mount
point that is growing is related to an Oracle database.  At a similar
interval to the df command above, run something like this in your Oracle
database.  If you have more than one, do it in all, but spool to a
instance_specific file name:

spool begin (or end)
select tablespace_name, sum(bytes)/1024 "Kb"
from dba_extents
group by tablespace_name
order by 1 asc;
spool off

diff begin end 
will tell you which tablespace is growing.

You can then modify the query above to see which object is growing in
that tablespace.  I won't write that one for you or you won't get a
chance to learn anything from this 

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/04 01:44AM >>>
Hi All,
 
Sorry for an OT question, but nowhere else to go. Pretty new to Solaris
so
might be a naive question. Need a pointer on how to do this.
 
The disk space in the machine is constantly decreasing. And I want to
know
which files/directories are growing.
 
Is there any way to find out?
 
Regards
Naveen

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Re: What to look for in STATSPACK report

2004-01-23 Thread Stephen Andert
I've tried to get ahold of Anjo off-list several times.  I'm sure he is
busy, but I really need to get ahold of him.  Can someone off-list ask
him to e-mail me at either/both of these addresses?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Thanks
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/23/04 12:19AM >>>
Hi Tim,

Are you sure it's still owned by Veritas? Doesn't look that way when I

checked it just now.

Mogens

Tim Gorman wrote:

>Helmut,
>
>Register with "http://www.oraperf.com"; and run those STATSPACK
reports
>through the YAPP analyzer, which will reformat them in such a way that
they
>make sense.
>
>All of the ratio stuff on the STATSPACK report is ignored by the YAPP
>analyzer, and instead the reformatting looks at things from the
standpoint
>of response-time analysis, as described in the white papers at
>"http://www.oraperf.com/whitepapers.html";.
>
>Yes, I know OraPerf is now owned by Veritas and the real URLs are
different,
>but it'll always be just good old "oraperf.com" hopefully, no matter
who
>Anjo works for...  :-)
>
>Hope this helps...
>
>-Tim
>
>
>on 1/18/04 11:24 PM, Daiminger, Helmut at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>We want to introduce a performance monitoring policy here. We are
using the
>>STATSPACK utility.
>>
>>What are sections in statspack reports to look for? What are
threshold
>>numbers for these values?
>>
>>Does anybody have any power points or papers about it?
>>
>>This is 9.2 on HP-UX.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Helmut
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>


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Re:RE: Multiple Listeners

2001-07-17 Thread Stephen Andert



Dick, 
 
Well, I've not seen the bug you describe and we have over 20 
db's in one listener on several different boxes. We are in 8.1.6 on Compaq 
Tru64.
 
We did have a problem trying to get one listener in 8.1.6 to 
listed for 8.0.x and 7.3.x databases and WWS discovered that a bug they thought 
was fixed in 8i was not fixed for Compaq.  
 
We're now looking at OID.  Any horror/success stories out 
there?
 
Stephen 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/16/01 04:47PM 
>>>Alex,    This gets down to the amount of 
trust your damagement has in you.  If theyare more tempted to listen to 
outside assertions that you have already heard,then it's time to move on 
because your being treated like a trained monkey.  Mymanagement does 
ask questions on this type of subject when they've heardsomething new 
outside.  It's normally just tossed in my direction as a "Hey Iheard 
that these folks are doing this.  What do you think?".  In which case 
Inormally find out what their doing & why and what Oracle says about it 
as well. If it does not make sense, it ends up in the round file & there 
is no morediscussion.  It also helps to have management types who have 
some knowledge ofthe technology.  The result is less of the problem you 
state.    From a listener perspective, there is only one 
absolutely good reason thatI've found to run more than one listener per node 
& that is that after you pass10 DB's in one listener it appears to run 
out of memory & won't listen for theothers.  I did find a bug on 
Metalink on the subject, but it was suppose to havebeen fixed in 8.0.6 
though I've not verified that. Dick 
GouletReply SeparatorAuthor: 
"Hillman; Alex" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date:   
7/16/2001 3:01 PMBecause the more listeners you have - the better. If 
your damager ask youhow many listeners you are running and you answer one 
and he/she ( no sexizm:-)) heard that someone running 2 or 3 ( from another 
moro... err damager) -how would you explain why you are running only one. 
I hope that Ross can add more reasons to run at least 2 or better 
3listeners.Alex Hillman-Original 
Message-Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 6:21 PMTo: Multiple recipients 
of list ORACLE-LIt is possible to define 3 listeners on 3 different 
ports, each oneserving another database, but why would you do dat? You have 
3 littledatabases and one big bad listener whichs huffs and puffs and 
connects your clients to the instance of their choice. What would you 
benefit fromhaving 3 listeners?> -Original 
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July 16, 2001 5:42 PM> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> 

> I am currently running Oracle 816 64bit on a Solaris 8 box.  
> I have three> databases on the system with one LISTENER for all 
of them.  > Is it possible> to configure multiple listeners, 
one for each database?  We > have tried in> the past with no 
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Re: any way to stop rollback for dml?/8.1.7.1/Solaris 8

2001-07-27 Thread Stephen Andert



Steve, 
 
As far as speeding up the sqlldr process, you could take a look at an 
article on O'Reilly's web site.  It's at http://oracle.oreilly.com/news/oraclesqlload_0401.html and 
documents the fairly painless process I used to speed up data loads we are doing 
here.
 
HTH
 
Stephen Andert
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/27/01 12:02PM 
>>>Does anyone know of a way to inhibit rollback from being 
generated for DML?We've got a data warehouse load process that we're 
trying to speed up(involving sqlldr and then some DML afterwards.)  The 
staging tables it usesare entirely for this process -- there's no need to 
rollback if it fails;we'd truncate them and start again with that set of 
data.Aside from sqlldr direct mode and import direct mode, can anyone 
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RE: sqlloader process dies

2001-08-01 Thread Stephen Andert



Lyuda, 
 
What are your settings (BINDSIZE, ROWS, etc)?  
 
Also how big and how many rollback segments do you have?  How big is 
their tablespace?
 
 
 
If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note.
 
Stephen Andert>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/01 
04:30PM >>>I could do it but the trick it to load it all at 
once...-Original Message-Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:06 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LWhy don't you try to 
divide this load in several parts.Alex Hillman-Original 
Message-Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:26 PMTo: Multiple recipients 
of list ORACLE-LThank you Kevin.No, drive has plenty of 
space.Any one else has a guess?-Original Message-Sent: 
Tuesday, July 31, 2001 5:07 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSince it can't create a log file either ... how about space 
???  running outof space on the machine ??-Original 
Message-Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:42 PMTo: Multiple recipients 
of list ORACLE-LHi,I am experiencing a problem with sqlloader 
not being able to finish a largeload.  It tries to load between 1 and 2 
millions records.  Sometime duringthe load it just dies. I see an 
attempt to create a log file but the filesize remains 0 bytes.  It 
remains 0 size until the next day when new processkicks off.  The 
described scenario occurs day after day.  It is a cron jobkicked from a 
batch file running multiple loads simultaneously.  There aretwo 
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RE: (Fwd) Oracle8i Database Administration Boot camp

2001-08-01 Thread Stephen Andert



Rachel, 
 
I did that when I worked at a bank where smokers took 2 10-15 minute breaks 
in the am and at least 2 in the pm.  I went out with a buddy.  One day 
my mgr walked in and said "Steve, I didn't know you smoked.  What are you 
doing out here?" I said I was taking my second-hand smoke break since that was 
the only way to get away from my desk sometimes.  It worked.
 
Stephen Andert>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/31/01 
10:10PM >>>there are times I regret giving up smoking -- I want the 
cigarette breaks.I wonder if I can get away with a non-smoking  
break hm.>From: Kimberly Smith 
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-0800>>I go as often as possible.  Gets me away from my 
desk.>>-Original Message->Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 
2001 1:42 PM>To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L>>>DBAs don't go to the bathroom. We're above that 
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-Original Message-> > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 2:31 
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>> > btw, what dbas take one hour to eat? i thought it only 
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>> >  From: "Page, Bruce" 
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Re: Privileges

2001-08-07 Thread Stephen Andert



Laura, 
 
You need to do the grants directly to the user that is creating the 
procedure/package.  Major pain.  I didn't believe the developers when 
they told me that, but after adequate testing I realized they were right.
 
Roles are still good for managing security of the rest of the db users, 
it's just managing the developers that is a pain because of this.
 
Have fun.
 
Stephen Andert>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/07/01 
09:00AM >>>
I have granted 'all' to a table owned by owner1 to a 
role.  I granted this role to user1.  User1 can access this table via 
SQL*Plus and Developer.  However, when developing a procedure/package in 
Procedure Builder under program units, and then dragging it down to the bottom 
as user1 procedures, an error stating 'insufficient privileges on 
owner1.tablename' is received.  
Any ideas??  I have researched the 'grant 
execute on procedure' privilege but I don't see why I would need to do this for 
the table owner.  My understanding of this privilege is to grant another 
user access to the procedure and maintain security in this way, instead of 
having to grant access to each user individually.
Laura 


Re: sqlloader stops

2001-08-08 Thread Stephen Andert



Lyuda, 
 
I'll jump into the game of 20 questions.
 
Is the batch file kicking off the jobs in serial (one after 
the other) or in parallel (maybe using & to put each one in the 
background)?
 
 
 
 
Stephen Andert>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/08/01 07:06AM 
>>>If I execute one load at the time maually it loads fine.  
It gives me hardtime when I try to run multiple loads(one after another) 
through the batchfile.- Original Message -To: "Multiple 
recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Tuesday, 
August 07, 2001 9:05 PM> How about using some GUI tool (or even 
SQL) to see what> SQL its running, if any, and what counters and waits 
are> incrementing...>> Good luck, keep in touch 
:-)>> Yosi>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:>> > Thanks Yosi.> > No, that is not the 
case..:-(> >> > -Original Message-> > 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:37 PM> > To: Multiple recipients of 
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your archive log destination?> >> > This is like a guessing 
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There is this one server that is givingme a> > > hard 
time.  It loads 3 files and then stops.  I commented out 
thethird> > call> > > to sqlloader thinking may be 
there is something wrong with a thirdtext> > > file.  It 
loaded 3 files again and stopped on the forth one.> > > There is 
nothing in alert log (no errors).  Also, there is enoughspace 
on> > > the drive where the logs are going.> > > 
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RE: STOP THE PRESS!!

2001-09-11 Thread Stephen Andert

To quote a movie line that rang true (I forget which movie), 

"I'm not worried about the guy with a dozen nuclear warheads, he's just in it for the 
money.  The guy who just wants one is a fanatic."



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11 12:00 PM >>>

We need to be cool, calm, convinced and know what we want to hit - and
utterly destroy it. Completely.

We are not at risk from rougue states with nuclear missless. 
It's the terrorist fanatics with a suitcase and a warped
purpose that's our biggest threat.

-Original Message-
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friend of mine just saw Bush's plane, flying super low and
surrounded by *stealth fighters* heading for Andrews'

Man, I hope there is a  R E S P O N S E  to this, and soon. 

-Original Message-
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I am wondering whether this was an attack from outside, or from people like
Timothy McVeigh. 
It seems to be awfully well co-ordinated, how could they breach security to
that extent.

Regards,

Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle DBA)
Bedford Institute of Oceanography
Fisheries and Oceans Canada


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Re: OT Terrorist Acts

2001-09-11 Thread Stephen Andert

Rachel, 

Glad to see you are ok!  I was glad to see the message from Ross saying you were ok.




Stephen Andert


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11 6:35 PM >>>
just because we will have to kill does not mean we have to like it. It's 
what separates us from animals.

My heart is bleeding for the families of those lost in this tragedy.


>From: "Thater, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: OT Terrorist Acts
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:30:28 -0800
>
>At 12:15 PM 9/11/2001, you wrote:
>>Yes, I see that and wish i could remove it. Consider it done
>>
>>We've just heard the towers went downjust incredible..i had
>>never thought that i'd be there at the start of World War III.
>>
>>And wanted very badly to fight in it.
>
>
>to you all:
>
>someone once said "those who hate war the most are those best trained in
>it's use".  trust me, you DON'T want to fight in a war.  you may end up
>doing just that, but you don't want to.
>
>i had friends who's pentagon offices were where the impact was.
>
>and i wish death wasn't a friend of mine.
>
>
>
>
>--
>Bill "Shrek" Thater  ORACLE DBA
>Telergy,Inc.   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>You gotta program like you don't need the money,
>You gotta compile like you'll never get hurt,
>You gotta run like there's nobody watching,
>It's gotta come from the heart if you want it to work.
>
>Stack Error:  Lost on a cluttered desk...
>
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Re: The DBA in the IS organization

2001-09-15 Thread Stephen Andert

At my last job, my supervisor reported to the Manager of IT as did the manager of 
AppDev.  Where I am now, there are so many levels of damanagement (ok some of them are 
managers not DAmanagers) that all I know is that the AppDevs, SAs and DBAs all report 
to a different VP.  So when a group doesn't want to cooperate, it's pretty easy for 
them to hold up the show.  But there are some groups of SAs, DBAs and AppDevs that 
work towards a common goal and don't let the overhead of management get in our way.

And I'm logging in from home just to do some preventative maintenance.  Whoever made 
the comment about VPN is right... it makes long hours and on-call tolerable.

Have a nice weekend.

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/15 4:55 AM >>>
I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their IS organization.  My
situation is this.  I was hired just a little over a year ago as a DBA but
my official title is network programmer.  Except for some job scripting I
have not done any coding.  I am the only DBA for 5 Oracle databases and 4
SQL Server installations.  Currently my boss is the head of development.  I
work with the developers and with the network admins equally.  I sometimes
feel a bit of a conflict with me being under the developers.  I have been
thinking about approaching the VP of IS about having me be under him rather
than being under development.  I feel I need to have equal footing with the
development managers and with the network admins.  Right now I am kind in
limbo with no real authority.
So anyway, I am just wondering where you fit in your organization and what
is the appropriate place for the DBA.
And yes I got called into work.  Sucks to be me today.  :o)

Thanks,

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RE: {9i New Feature: Query Flashback }: This one is long

2001-10-23 Thread Stephen Andert



If he is preparing a presentation, it is definitly one I won't 
want to miss.
 
Stephen Andert>>> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/23/01 02:40AM >>>I think Joe's just doing 
it to be helpfuland as a way of learning the 9i stuff... he has to play 
with it to beable to write about it--- Larry Elkins 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> As always Joe, we appreciate these 
updates. And if it is never> ending,> that's fine by me. The way 
you have taken care to write up the> features,> issues, and 
caveats makes me think this series is destined for a> 
presentation?> > Technet also has a series going on regarding 9i 
features. It is> fairly> useful from a high level standpoint. Of 
course, it is Oracle's side> of the> story. A bit different from 
Joe's going through the features and> giving the> "real story" and 
experiences.> > Regards,> > Larry G. Elkins> 
The Elkins Organization Inc.> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
214.954.1781> -Original Message-> Sent: Monday, October 
22, 2001 12:05 PM> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L> 
> > Query Flashback> > This is part 3 of a what will 
seem to be a never-ending series on new> 9i> features. :)> 
> This topic follows up on last weeks on Automated Undo> 
Management(which is a> requirement for Query Flashback).> 
>> 
> > What is Query Flashback?> > Flashback Query 
lets you view and repair historical data. It offers> the> ability 
to perform queries on the database as of a certain wall clock> time(look 
under the limitations section about this)  or> 
user-specified> system change number (SCN). Once the errors are 
identified, undoing> the> updates is a straightforward process 
that can be done without> intervention> from the database 
administrator. More importantly, the restoration> can be> achieved 
with no database downtime.> 
>> 
> > Setting Up the Database for Flashback Query> 
> Use automatic undo management to maintain read consistency, 
rather> than the> older technique using rollback segments.> 
> You MUST HAVE an undo tablespace to make this work.  Now did I try 
it> with> Rollback segments, nope, but based on what I've read it 
would make no> sense> to even try it as we all know that RBS get 
reused.> > Set the UNDO_RETENTION init.ora parameter to a value 
that represents> how far> in the past you might want to query(it 
is in seconds). If you only> need to> recover data immediately 
after a mistaken change is committed, the> parameter> can be set 
to a small value. If you need to recover deleted data from> days> 
before, you might need to say 86400 * number of days(since 60 * 60> *24 
=> 86400).> > Now keep in mind, if you tell Oracle to keep 
like one days worth of> undo,> you set the UNDO_RETENTION to 86400 
and there is not enough free> space in> the tablespace to keep 
that much, then Oracle will ignore that keep> time and> start 
reusing the oldest undo.> > Grant EXECUTE privilege on the 
DBMS_FLASHBACK package to whoever> needs it.> 
>> 
> > Potential applications of flashback query are:> 
> Recovering lost data or undoing incorrect changes, even after 
the> changes> are committed. For example, a user who deletes or 
updates rows and> then> commits can immediately repair a 
mistake.> > Comparing current data against the data at some time 
in the past. For> example, you might run a weekly report that shows the 
change from> last week,> rather than just the current aggregate 
data.> > Checking the state of transactional data at a particular 
time. For> example,> you might want to verify an account balance 
on a certain day.> 
>> 
> > Important notes about query flashback> > 
Flashback Query does NOT undo anything.> > Flashback Query does 
NOT tell you what changed thats what LogMiner> does(thats coming up in a 
few weeks).> > Flashback Query can be used to undo changes and can 
be very efficient> if you> know the rows that need to be moved 
back in time.> > Flashback Query does not work through DDL 
operations that modify> columns, or> drop or truncate 
tables.> > 
>> 
> > Limitations of Flashback Query> > Some DDLs 
that alter the structure of a table, such as drop/modify> column,> 
move table, drop

RE: i need check fragmentation of index

2001-10-26 Thread Stephen Andert



Watch out though!  From the 8.1.6 
documentation:
 
"Validating the structure of an object prevents SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE, and 
DELETEstatements from concurrently accessing the object. Therefore, do not 
use this clause on thetables, clusters, and indexes of your production 
applications during periods of highdatabase activity."
I didn't realize that until users started complaining when I tried this 
a while back.
 
Stephen 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/01 04:10AM 
>>>Alex,This script is based around an analyze index . 
validate structure asmentined by 
Deepak---set 
verify offset pagesize 35set linesize 132set pause onset pause 
'Hit enter to continue'set feedback offset showmode offset echo 
offset space 0set heading offset termout off pause 
offcolumn blsk new_value BLOCK_SIZE_Kselect value / 1024 blskfrom 
v$parameterwhere name = 'db_block_size';set termout on pause 
offPROMPTACCEPT USER_INPUT1 CHAR PROMPT 'Please enter a index to 
analyze:>'ACCEPT USER_INPUT2 CHAR PROMPT 'Please enter a owner to 
analyze:>'PROMPTPROMPT Working, Please 
wait.PROMPTanalyze index &USER_INPUT2..&USER_INPUT1 
validate structure;col 
ROWS_PER_KEY  format 
999.99 heading '  'col 
BLKS_GETS_PER_ACCESS  format 99,999.99  heading 
' 
'select'    
Name of the index = ' || 
NAME,' 
Height of the b-tree = ' || 
HEIGHT,'    
Blocks allocated to the index = ' || 
BLOCKS,'    
Number of leaf rows (values in the index) = ' || 
LF_ROWS,'  
Number of leaf blocks in the b-tree = ' || 
LF_BLKS,'  
Sum of the lengths of all the leaf rows = ' || 
LF_ROWS_LEN,'    
Useable space in a leaf block = ' || 
LF_BLK_LEN,'    
Number of branch rows = ' || 
BR_ROWS,'    
Number of branch blocks in the b-tree = ' || BR_BLKS,'Sum of lengths of all 
the branch blocks in the b-tree = ' || 
BR_ROWS_LEN,'  
Useable space in a branch block = ' || 
BR_BLK_LEN,' 
Number of deleted leaf rows in the index = ' || 
DEL_LF_ROWS,'    Total length of all 
deleted rows in the index = ' 
||DEL_LF_ROWS_LEN,' 
Number of distinct keys in the index = ' || 
DISTINCT_KEYS,' How many times the most repeated key 
is repeated = ' 
||MOST_REPEATED_KEY,'    Total 
space currently allocated in the b-tree = ' || BTREE_SPACE,'Totl space that 
is currently being used in the b-tree = ' || USED_SPACE,'% of space 
allocated in the b-tree that is being used = ' || 
PCT_USED,'  
Average number of rows per distinct key = ' || ROWS_PER_KEY,'Expected number 
of consistent mode block gets per row = ' ||BLKS_GETS_PER_ACCESSfrom 
index_stats;col 
NAME 
format a30   fold_aftercol 
dummy_col_0   
fold_aftercol 
dummy_col_1   
fold_aftercol 
dummy_col_2   
fold_aftercol 
LF_ROWS  
format 
9,999,990    
heading ' 'col 
DEL_LF_ROWS  format 
9,999,990    
heading ' 'col 
BR_ROWS  
format 
9,999,990    
heading ' 'col 
DISTINCT_KEYS    format 
9,999,990    
heading ' 'col 
MOST_REPEATED_KEY    format 
9,999,990    
heading ' 'col 
ROWS_PER_KEY format 
9,999,990    
heading ' 'col 
HEIGHT   
format 0 fold_after heading 
'  'col 
BLKS_GETS_PER_ACCESS format 99,999.99 fold_after heading 
' 'col 
LF_BLK_LEN   format 
9,990 fold_after heading ' 
'col lf_row_size  
format 990   fold_after heading 
'  'col 
lf_row_per_blk   format 
990   fold_after heading 
'  'col 
BR_BLK_LEN   format 
9,990 fold_after heading ' 
'col br_row_size  
format 990   fold_after heading 
'  'col 
br_row_per_blk   format 
990   fold_after heading 
'  'col 
meg  
format 999.90    fold_after heading 
'  'col 
lf_meg   
format 
999.90   
heading '  'col 
lf_meg_pct   format 
99.90 fold_after heading '  
'col 
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format 
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heading '  'col 
br_meg_pct   format 
99.90 fold_after heading '  
'col 
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heading '  'col 
uu_meg_pct   format 
99.90 fold_after heading '  
'col 
bt_meg   
format 
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heading '  'col 
bt_meg_pct   format 
99.90 fold_after heading '  
'col 
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Re: Oracle related docs/OCP materials

2001-11-12 Thread Stephen Andert



Boy, this was sure a disappointment.  
 
No white papers that I could find.  The What's News 
section is listing the 9i beta test offer which expired nearly a month 
ago.  
 
The only thing there was the change to spend money on your 2 
products. 
 
:(
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RE: Oracle related docs/OCP materials

2001-11-13 Thread Stephen Andert



Yes, it is a big part of why I was able to pass my Performance 
Tuning OCP test. 
 
Stephen 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/13/01 09:55AM 
>>>
Have 
you guys checkout out www.freeocp.com 
created by one of our own list members Mr. Ethan Post? 

  -Original Message-From: Arslan Bahar 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:25 
  AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Oracle related docs/OCP materials
  these  sites  contain  some 
  resources
   
  www.oraclenotes.com
  http://certcities.com/
  http://www.oraclepower.com/
  
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I also found 
the site not useful. it did not have any documentation/tutorials at all. 

regards,Santosh Varma
 


Re: Help with a scripting problem

2003-10-08 Thread Stephen Andert
Ron,

First of all, is echo a SQL*Plis command?

Secondly, I think this will do what you want:

select 'host "c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy"' from dual;

as long as what you want is to execute the robocopy program from the
SQL*Plus prompt.

If you want to do something else, clarify your intentions on the list.

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/08/03 04:34PM >>>
 I am trying to issue the following command in SQL*PLUS but it doesn't
like the space between 'program' and 'files'.  
Can anyone tell me how to get around this?
   
 echo select 'host c:\program files\resource kit\robocopy;' from dual;

 
 
Thanks!
Ron Smith 

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Re: Wow, Man, Flashbacks!

2003-11-06 Thread Stephen Andert
Bambi,

Are you using automatic undo management or manual?  I think that
flashback can only be used with auto.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/06/03 10:04AM >>>
Hi Folks!

I got waylaid(?) when I got in this morning and these user dudes were
talking about using flashbacks, and I was like "Woah! Dudes! Let's
just
chill on this for a couple of minutes".  So, I went back to my desk
and
checked out a cool article on it...

http://www.oracle-base.com/Articles/9i/FlashbackQuery.asp 

And it looks like it's like, killer, yknow?  So, I was thinking "well,
we've
got sufficiently large undo segments for this, I don't see a problem
with
it" but that didn't sound terribly cool, and anyway, before I go
willy-nilly
saying this is the niftiest thing Oracle's done in years, I thought I
would
run it by you guys and see if anybody out there is running with
flashbacks
and whether there have been any problems with it.

Yer far-out pal,
Bambi.

 
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RE: Change dedicated server to shared server

2003-11-07 Thread Stephen Andert
Well, I just paged through the front part and it says nothing about 9i
coverage.  I don't use MTS, so I'm not a good judge on what it covers
that may apply to 9i or not.  The rest of the book I can judge and find
it (IMHO) to be a very good book on Oracle Network communication, both
with good clear overviews as well as detailed references for
troubleshooting and configuration.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/07/03 09:19AM >>>
The actual titile is "Oracle Net8:  Configuration and
Troubleshooting",
but I remember a good start to 9i's Oracle Net features being included
as well.
 
Melanie

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 If you purchase "Oracle Networking  (something or other) :-) " by
Jonathan Gennick and Hugo Toledo, this should give you an excellent
start. 
 
 
I can't recall, off the top of my head if the new MTS 9i init.ora
parameters are included in this text.
 
I believe that the latest edition of this book does include them,
though
...
 
HTH,
Melanie
 
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Hi
 
Can somebody tell me the steps for changing my server configuration
from
dedicated server to shared server?
 
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Re: Exam

2003-07-08 Thread Stephen Andert
First of all, I would check your calendar.  According to mine, you
missed it. 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/08/03 02:09PM >>>
Hi list,
I am going to give my Oracle 9i dba fundamentals II ( backup, recovery
, networking) exam tomorrow (7th july) .  Any last minute advice ?
Really nervous about it.

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Re: Oracle security question

2003-07-11 Thread Stephen Andert
Don, 

Look at dba_tab_privs.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/11/03 12:44PM >>>
Hi,

I have a security question about Oracle database. Recently I have
taken
full control an Oracle database in my department. Now I would like to
make sure that no other people except myself can update data in that
database. Can somebody tell me what it is necessary steps to do that?
Any comments are highly appreciated. Thanks!


Don


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Re: AIX 5.2 Or AIX 5.1 for Oracle 9.2 database server?

2003-07-16 Thread Stephen Andert
hi,

Did you get any replies off-list?  We are moving to Aix so I'm very
interested in this topic.

Thanks
Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/03 10:44AM >>>
Hi, friends:
There is a project that migrate a 9.0.1.3 database on linux server
to
9.2.0.3 on aix/p670 server, and I have some question about this
project,
hope friends in the list can share your idears.
1.Shall I use AIX 5.1 or AIX 5.2?
According to pagev
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/aix/os/52features.html, the most
attractive of
5.2 is the jfs2 and large page support,cpu-guard and virtual IP
Address. But
not sure whether Oracle 9.2 will support large page or not(9.2 on linux
does
support large page of 2MB).Multipath IO is also avaliable for aix5.2.
But 5.2 is even newer than 5.1 and I am not sure whether it is
stable or not? Does anyone here have experience running 9.2 on aix 5.2?
What
is the current ML level? Do I need to apply any special patch for
database
to intall and run smoothly?

2.If using AIX 5.2, we should use 64bit kernel, and according to
document, by default it will use jfs2.In jfs2, there is a feature
called
concurrent IO.Concurrent IO provide much better performance while it is
a
rather new feature, shall we use it for better performance? Have anyone
used
it?

3.If using multipathing, will the same disk be recognized by aix
as
different hdiskN? If yes,How do i solve this problem?

Thanks.

Regards
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Re: sqlnet.expire_time

2003-07-23 Thread Stephen Andert
Peter, 

What do you mean it is not working?  Are you killing a client
application and still seeing it's session in the database 10 minutes
later?  It does not kill a session just because it is idle, the client
needs to have either killed the application, shutdown their pc or been
disconnected from the network.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/03 02:14PM >>>
I am trying to use the sqlnet.expire_time parameter in
my sqlnet.ora file to kill connections from dead processes.
The entry looks like this:

SQLNET.EXPIRE_TIME=10


It does not seem to be working.  Any ideas.

Oracle 8.1.7
AIX 4.3.3
Client is on w2k.

Thanks,
Peter Schauss
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Metalink FTP Woes

2003-08-01 Thread Stephen Andert
I've been doing a lot (unfortunately) on Metastink lately and have been
having trouble uploading files with their web interface.  I've
successfully uploaded several files and then when I try and upload
another file, I get an error that says the link I'm going to doesn't
exist or something about "method not supported".  When I directly upload
to their ftp site, it works fine.

Another weird thing is that one of the files that I was getting errors
on, the analyst said they got the file even though the web interface
died on me.

Anyone else have a similar problem and know if the answer is on
Oracle's side or not?

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Re: Multiple DBs - Balancing Act

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Andert
(trying again with "bad" word modified )

Mike, 

We rated our databases based on factors such as vocal customers,
database size (larger database might require special handling),
development stage (new, rapidly developed apps tend to cause more work)
and daily troubleshooting (anything with a pipeline or materialized
views requires more hand-holding, etc) and tried to balance things based
on these.  This balance also included our model of having a Primary
database owner (dbo) and a Secondary dbo.  For the most part, being
secondary means that if the primary is o.u.t. o.f. t.h.e. o.f.f.i.c.e,
you need to pay attention to pages or emails about those databases as
well as your primary ones.

Is it a fair balance?  To some degree probably, but efforts to
standardize, so that the on-call person can "plug-in" to any database
and not spend a lot of time "learning" another database have been mixed.
 Some things are under pretty tight control like our Listener Change
Control group and is very stable,  Redo logs (number of members and
groups) have been debated (do you need to mirror with Oracle if you are
mirroring with the hardware?) and no consensus has been reached and so
we need to do a bit more investigation in some areas when we need to
cover for someone.

I say give the new guy everything that the others don't want to do
.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/11/03 02:39PM >>>
This question is for folks who are part of a team that manages 
multiple databases and multiple platforms.

How do you balance the load among your team?  We're struggling
with this concept right now as we're about to add another DBA to
the group.  We've considered such things as quantity (how many DBs
does each DBA handle), importance (to the company - each DBA has
'n' databases, load (this DB is used 'n' times as much as another
one, experience (of the DBA...do we put a UNIX-familiar person in 
charge of DBs on Windows?) and on and on.  But then we stumble on
quantifying the terms - importance, load, etc.  And we have had 
some DBs that we considered 'small' become a major PITA when we
weren't looking!  We just signed a deal making Oracle our DB of 
choice for the next several years, so we could see an explosion
of stuff.

So I'm asking...how do you do it?

Thanks,
Mike

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Merge patches

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Andert
OK, maybe I'm going crazy or senile, but I seem to recall Oracle stating
that if you needed to apply more than 1 patch, you would need to request
a merge patch.  I think this was about a year ago and caused us to
downgrade a database to resolve a problem since the turn-around time for
the merge patch was not going to beet our requirements.  

Does anyone else remember this?  Are they still doing this or can
multiple 1-off patches be applied now?

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Re: How to tell Oracle the directories of script files

2003-08-14 Thread Stephen Andert
export SQLPATH=/usr/users/oracle/dba/scripts:/app/oracle/admin

before you run SQL*Plus

HTH
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/14/03 11:09AM >>>

Hello,
Suppose I have some SQL scripts in my /home/user directories,
/usr/local/bin 
directories, etc.
If I start 'sqlplus' from console in /home/user directories, I can 
load/execute the script by doing:
SQL> @scriptname

But what if I don't start sqlplus from that directories? How do I tell
Oracle 
to find the scripts in /home/user, then if it's not there in
/usr/local/bin,  
for example? So that I can be anywhere in the filesystem when starting

sqlplus and can execute my SQL script.

Just like the $PATH environment variables in *nix system that tell the
shell 
where to find executables, is there a similar thing for Oracle?

Thanks for any help.

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Re: SQL Loader help

2003-08-29 Thread Stephen Andert
Rachel,

I do not claim to be a guru, but I do happen to have Jonathan's book
here.

The first thing is what field type are you using for this memo field? 
The book says you should use CHAR for VARCHAR2, CHAR, LONG and other
related.

What error are you getting?

Can you post the lines from the ctl?

Is there a chance there are TAB's in the data?

Stephen



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/29/03 09:24AM >>>
I know that there are several sql loader gurus on this list. I'm
having
a problem loading data from a third party vendor. into what is
basically  a LONG column

The file is ASCII, tab delimited. The specs on the input data say that
this particular column is a "memo" field (the originating database is
FoxPro.. joy)

I'm trying to load this into a 9.2.0.2 database. And it's barfing.
This
is annoying me no end and so I'm asking for help. I don't have
Jonathan's book here with me! (that would, of course, be easy)

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Re: sqlload

2003-09-02 Thread Stephen Andert
Syntax looks right.  

Does the operating system user have read privs on the csv file?

Does the database user running this have insert privs on the table?

If those are ok, then try retyping the first couple lines of the ctl
file as there may be a hidden control character messing things up.

Good luck
Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/02/03 10:19AM >>>

PLEASE Can someone help??I have a sqlloader control file below and
I am
getting the following error when I run it and I just cant see what is
wrong!!!

Rgds

Fawzia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sqlldr parfile=pants.ctl log=me.log
LRM-00110: syntax error at 'LOAD'
LRM-00113: error when processing file 'pants.ctl'

Control file:


LOAD DATA
INFILE  'gazza2.csv'
APPEND
INTO TABLE olsr10_tlmif2.gazetteer1
fields terminated by ','
trailing nullcols
(postcode_prefix_spaced char,
filler1 char,
postcode_prefix char,
filler2 char,
postcode_range char,
filler3 char,
town char,
filler4 char,
county char,
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Re: Copying statistics : used a lot ????

2003-09-11 Thread Stephen Andert
Stephane,

No time to look at it enough to do it.  Also, not a lot of time is
spent tuning our test/dev environments.

But I'd like to do it.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/11/03 01:37PM >>>
HI,

I was wandering if a lot of people are copying statistics using
dbms_stats
from production to test environment to see what will be the access
plan.

If not used, why ?  no time to look at it, bugged, not usefull ,... ?


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Re: archive old data

2003-09-12 Thread Stephen Andert
Nancy,

As with so many things, it depends.

If you *might* need some of the data back, then you need to be able to
recover it.  That means if you do an export, you need to know what
version it is and track whether that table ever has any changes.  If it
does change, you will need to jump through more hoops to restore the
data.  If the version of oracle changes, you need to be aware of
differences when importing data from older versions and should probably
do a test before the older version of the database goes away.  Safest
would probably be to create a flat file (comma-delimited or something
like that) and use SQL*Loader or external tables should you need to
recover.

I would try and get a "safe" date beyond which no one will ever expect
recovered data.  For example, do you really need line items for orders
that are 5 years old?  Do you need insurance policy information for
policies that expired 10 years ago?  Do you need information on
employees that left 4 or more years ago?  The sooner you can get that
information from your business users, the sooner you'll be able to start
enforcing data removal.  If you can handle that in the database, then
partitioning based on the removal date would be useful and let you use
partitioning to accomplish the purge easily.

Good luck.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/12/03 09:49AM >>>
We have some tables that have data for many years.  We are going to
archive 
the data that are older than 3 years.  I would like to find out how you
guys 
usually do this or a best way to do this.  Thanks for any inputs in
advance.

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Arizona User Group Meeting 10/2/03

2003-09-23 Thread Stephen Andert
If you are not in AZ, please feel free to press DEL now.

It is time for another great AZORA user group meeting.  The next
meeting is Thursday October 2nd which if you haven't looked at a
calendar lately
is coming soon.  For more information on times/location, please see our
web page at www.azora.org.

Topic #1:

Oracle Selective Audit - Ray Kowalski is a Practice Manager with Oracle
Corporation

Topic #2:

A Close Look at SQL Statement Tuning, Dan Hotka is a Training
Specialist

Thanks
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Re: Client not using tnsnames.ora?

2002-10-04 Thread Stephen Andert

Scott, 

Where on the client machine is the tnsnames.ora file?  Probably is in
the $ORACLE_HOME\NETWORK\ADMIN directory or maybe a network drive. Your
home is probably c:\ora817 or maybe If you only changed the tnsnames.ora
on the server side (i.e. prod), you will also need to update the
tnanames.ora file on the client.  

Good luck. (I'm sure you'll get it)

Stephen 
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/04/02 03:33PM >>>
Hello all,

DB=8.1.7.4.0
DB Server OS=HPUX 11i
Client: Windows NT 4.0

I have 3 Oracle instances that were installed on one machine "prod". 
They 
are FPRD, FTRN and FTST.  I moved FTST to a different machine "dev".  I

changed the tnsnames.ora files on the clients and the servers, and I 
changed the listener.ora on the servers.

Now I cannot connect to the FTST instance on the "dev" machine from the

clients.  The TNS_ADMIN env variable is not set either.  I tried to set
it 
on one of the clients and it broke all of the other instances.  When I
do a 
TNSPING from the clients, it still shows that the client is trying to 
connect to the "prod" machine even though the tnsnames.ora file on the

client is pointing to "dev".  I don't know where the client is getting
that 
the FTST database is still located on "prod".  I checked the sqlnet.ora

file on the clients and servers and they all have 
"names.directory_path=(TNSNAMES)"

The twist to all of this is that if I try to connect using sqlplus from

"prod" to "dev" and vice versa, I can connect all day long with no
problems 
at all.  So that leads me to believe the issue lies on the Client
side.

Example:
C:\ tnsping ftst.harper.cc.il.us
Attempting to contact (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=TCP)(HOST=prod)(PORT=1521))

and it should read:
C:\ tnsping ftst.harper.cc.il.us
Attempting to contact (ADDRESS=(PROTOCOL=TCP)(HOST=dev)(PORT=1521))

Because the tnsnames.ora file reads:
FTST.HARPER.CC.IL.US =
   (DESCRIPTION =
 (ADDRESS_LIST =
   (ADDRESS = (PROTOCOL = TCP)(HOST = dev)(PORT = 1521))
 )
 (CONNECT_DATA =
   (SERVICE_NAME = ftst)
 )
   )

Please help a newbie!!!
Thanks so much in advance!


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RE: Multiple Listeners

2002-10-24 Thread Stephen Andert
Test first

We discovered a bug on Tru64 that prevented this from working correctly
in at least a couple versions of Oracle.  8.1.7 was suppossed to fix
this, but it didn't. 8.1.7.3 did *I think*.



>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/16/02 11:39AM >>>
You can use the 'higher' version of the listener for all databases
running
on <= higher version, unless you need multiple listeners for other
reasons Net8 Admin Guide should have enough information. 

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DBAs,

Any quick start guides / scripts / notes for having multiple version
listeners on same Solaris box?


Scenario :
I am in process of upgrading.
There are two databases on a machine db6 and db7
db6 <-> 8.1.6
db7 <-> 8.1.6
db6 and db7 use the "listener" of version 8.1.6

Now,
db7 migrated to 8.1.6
I am thinking of something like :
db6 <-> listener of 8.1.6 (status quo)
db7 <-> listener_817 of 8.1.7 (new version listener)

Two separate listener.ora files

lsnrctl status listener (for 8.1.6 listener)
lsnrctl status listener_817 (for 8.1.7 listener)


Thanks in advance,

-Rachna
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Re: RV: Nuestra Profesión Ing. Sistemas

2002-10-29 Thread Stephen Andert
Esto me dio mucha risa.  Alguien lo va a traducir al ingles para el
resto de la lista?

Esteban

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/24/02 12:05PM >>>
Ups colegas ! 
 


@lex 
 
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The truth is out there in WWW 


 
 
Tomado de Un amigo 
Estoy pensando seriamente dejar de ser ingeniero en sistemas 
1.- Trabajas en horas extrañas. !Como las putas! 
2.- Te pagan para mantener al cliente feliz. !Como las putas! 
3.- El cliente paga mucho mas pero tu jefe se queda con casi todo el 
dinero. !Como las putas! 
4.- Cobras por hora pero tu tiempo se extiende hasta que termines. !
Como 
las putas! 
5.- Si eres bueno, nunca estas orgulloso de lo que haces. !Como las 
putas! 
6.- Te recompensan por satisfacer las fantasías de tus clientes. !Como

las 
putas! 
7.- Es difícil tener y mantener una familia. !Como las putas! 
8.- Cuando te preguntan en que trabajas no lo puedes explicar. !Como 
las 
putas! 
9.- Tus amigos se distancian de ti y tu solo andas con otros igual que

tu. 
!Como las putas! 
10.- El cliente paga tu cuenta del hotel y por horas trabajadas. !Como

las 
putas! 
11.- Tu jefe tiene un buen coche. !Como las putas! 
12.- Cuando vas a hacer una "asistencia" al cliente estas óptimo. !Como

las putas!. 
13.- Pero cuando vuelves pareces haber salido del infierno. !Como las 
putas! 
14.- Evalúan tu "capacidad" con horribles pruebas. !Como las putas! 
15.- El cliente siempre quiere pagar menos y encima quiere que hagas 
maravillas. !Como las putas! 
16.- Cada día al levantarte dices "!!!NO VOY A HACER ESTO TODA MI 
VIDA!!!". 
!Como las putas! 
17.- Sin conocer nada de su problema los clientes esperan que les des 
el 
consejo que necesitan. !Como las putas! 
18.- Si las cosas salen mal es siempre culpa tuya. !Como las putas! 
19.- Tienes que brindarle servicios gratis a tu jefe, amigos y 
familiares. 
!Como las putas! 
!Puta! ¿¿Hasta cuándo?? 
 
 
 
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SQL*Net Message to client/SQL*Net more data to client

2002-10-29 Thread Stephen Andert
We have experienced a sudden and dramatic decrease in performance
sometime over the weekend (after Sat but before Monday 4 am).  In
following Gaja's tuning philosophy, I've found that the top 2 waits are
usually (always 2 of the top 3) SQL*Net Message to client/SQL*Net more
data to client.  Everybody swears there have been no changes.  SA's say
no harware or kernel changes.  AppDev say no code changes. DBA (me) says
no database changes.  

WAN folks say no WAN issues and ping is responding at expected speed.
SA's say LAN card has had no errors during this time frame and is
processing a good number of bytes but nowhere near it's capacity.
The application has some very good timing points where there is no
human element in response time, but there is a big "unknown" category
that is a larger chunk of time than previously.  We suspect that is
machine wait time of some kind.

We just bounced the instance because someone wanted to try it and after
being back up for 20 minutes, early indicators are that performance is
back to normal.  We'll see how long that lasts.

We have seen a few client sessions getting errors that indicate
connectivity problems (listener not responding, etc) so we wrote a .com
file that is repeatedly connecting to the database and will run
overnight and stop if there are any errors.

Metalink search for SQL*Net waits gives both "tuning advice" and "you
can't tune much" notes.  I strongly suspect some kind of hardware
failure, but don't know where since everyone involved says everything is
working fine.

Environment Notes:
Server 
8.1.7.3
Tru64 5.1A (upgrade to A was done a few weeks ago)
Compaq GS160 with 16 CPU's and 32 GB RAM (RAM is from memory, so that
may be off)

Client
Open VMS version 7.2
Client is 8.0.5

Any ideas on a next step for finding out the cause (solution) to this
drop in performance???

Help
Stephen


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RE: SQL*Net Message to client/SQL*Net more data to client

2002-10-29 Thread Stephen Andert
Anjo, 

They have reported the results of ping times and said that response
times are "within spec".  They have told me that the network card is
handling "x bytes per second without errors"  and that the card is
capable of many times that throughput.  They have swtiched network cards
8 times last week and "tested" each one without any errors.  The reason
for this testing/card switching was the errors that they were seeing
that was causing the box to stop responding.  

I am asking our swat team to look into the network stats from the
response time perspective instead of utilization.

Thanks
Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/29/02 06:23PM >>>

This is called "Blame Storming". Every component works "fine" but
response time sucks and the problem is some other area. So how do we
turn "Blame Storming" into "Brain Storming"?

Check out the network components. One of the problems is that the
network people look at utilization, instead of response time. They
will
find that utilization of certain components may be low (due to some
problem), and assume that the problem is some where else. Can they
tell
how long a packet is on your network connection? 

Anjo.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

We have experienced a sudden and dramatic decrease in performance
sometime over the weekend (after Sat but before Monday 4 am).  In
following Gaja's tuning philosophy, I've found that the top 2 waits
are
usually (always 2 of the top 3) SQL*Net Message to client/SQL*Net more
data to client.  Everybody swears there have been no changes.  SA's
say
no harware or kernel changes.  AppDev say no code changes. DBA (me)
says
no database changes.  

WAN folks say no WAN issues and ping is responding at expected speed.
SA's say LAN card has had no errors during this time frame and is
processing a good number of bytes but nowhere near it's capacity.
The application has some very good timing points where there is no
human element in response time, but there is a big "unknown" category
that is a larger chunk of time than previously.  We suspect that is
machine wait time of some kind.

We just bounced the instance because someone wanted to try it and
after
being back up for 20 minutes, early indicators are that performance is
back to normal.  We'll see how long that lasts.

We have seen a few client sessions getting errors that indicate
connectivity problems (listener not responding, etc) so we wrote a
.com
file that is repeatedly connecting to the database and will run
overnight and stop if there are any errors.

Metalink search for SQL*Net waits gives both "tuning advice" and "you
can't tune much" notes.  I strongly suspect some kind of hardware
failure, but don't know where since everyone involved says everything
is
working fine.

Environment Notes:
Server 
8.1.7.3
Tru64 5.1A (upgrade to A was done a few weeks ago)
Compaq GS160 with 16 CPU's and 32 GB RAM (RAM is from memory, so that
may be off)

Client
Open VMS version 7.2
Client is 8.0.5

Any ideas on a next step for finding out the cause (solution) to this
drop in performance???

Help
Stephen


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RE: SQL*Net Message to client/SQL*Net more data to client

2002-10-30 Thread Stephen Andert
Funny you should mention sunspots since that's what some of our people
are saying along with the phase of the moon.  When we find a solution
(this is business critical, failure is not an option), I'll post a
summary.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/30/02 08:14AM >>>

For what it's worth, we had the same thing going on here recently and
have
not resolved it.  In our case, it is a visual basic app running what
is
essentially a batch job (don't ask me why a batch job was written as a
VB
app; I just work here).  The client is a PC, and the database is on
Tru64
(again ... I just work here).  Three different PC's were tried.  It
appears
that the tcp_nodelay parameter worked on two of them but not the third
(which, as you might guess, is the production box and the one on which
it
NEEDS to run faster ... Of course!).  All the PC's are on the same
subnet,
going through same routers to get to the same database.

If you get the problem resolved, I will be most interested in your
solution.
Thus far, we have only been able to attribute it either to sunspots or
something about the W2K OS on the PC ... both of which, as we all know,
are
responsible for a lot of unexplained behavior.
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IOUG Papers

2002-11-11 Thread Stephen Andert
Does anyone know what the expected time-frame is for the IOUG paper
seletion committee to select papers?

I submitted a couple and am on pins and needles.

Thanks
Stephen Andert

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RE: IOUG Papers

2002-11-12 Thread Stephen Andert
Thanks for the info.

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/12/02 05:38AM >>>
The Focus Area Managers submitted their selections
up to the Technical Session Chair and the 
Director of Educational Programming last week. 
They have to review the selections for each area and
make any adjustments they feel necessary. 
I would think that notices would be going out to 
paper authors fairly soon, within the next
two weeks possibly.

Matt Adams


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Does anyone know what the expected time-frame is for the IOUG paper
seletion committee to select papers?

I submitted a couple and am on pins and needles.

Thanks
Stephen Andert

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SUMMARY: SQL*Net Message to client/SQL*Net more data to client

2002-11-18 Thread Stephen Andert
Well, I thought I'd let everyone know what we came up with.

First of all many thanks to all who helped,  Cary, Jared, Dennis, Anjo
and others.  Everyone gave me more ammo to point the finger outside the
database and some of the suggestions started a better dialogue between
our different groups here.

The best information I got was from Cary and company at hotsos.com who
helped me see how to effectively use a 10046 trace file.  The slowest
job we had (that was impacting us the most) had a 1-1 parse to execute
ratio and had nearly 90% of the trace time spent in SQL*Net wait. 
Simply by improving the parse to execute ratio, we should eliminate
close to half of the waiting time.  

We did some research into why the application was parsing once per
execute and convinced the developers to use the HOLD_CURSORS parameter
in the Pro*C compilation.  (I had asked a few months before and they
said "no need").  Some of the programs worked without a problem, but
others had problems due to attempting to reuse "implicit cursors".  They
are investigating that further and changed it where possible.  

We also turned on a second nic and changed the tnsnames.ora to use that
nic for this db.  

Those actions together returned us to a reasonable performance, though
I still feel that further work on the appdev side is needed to make
significant performance improvements.

Thanks again to all.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/30/02 08:14AM >>>

For what it's worth, we had the same thing going on here recently and
have
not resolved it.  In our case, it is a visual basic app running what
is
essentially a batch job (don't ask me why a batch job was written as a
VB
app; I just work here).  The client is a PC, and the database is on
Tru64
(again ... I just work here).  Three different PC's were tried.  It
appears
that the tcp_nodelay parameter worked on two of them but not the third
(which, as you might guess, is the production box and the one on which
it
NEEDS to run faster ... Of course!).  All the PC's are on the same
subnet,
going through same routers to get to the same database.

If you get the problem resolved, I will be most interested in your
solution.
Thus far, we have only been able to attribute it either to sunspots or
something about the W2K OS on the PC ... both of which, as we all know,
are
responsible for a lot of unexplained behavior.
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Re: Sr. Oracle DBA Position- Must be 8i and 9i Certified-

2002-11-25 Thread Stephen Andert
I guess the response wasn't overwhelming if he is re-posting this again
so soon.  I wonder if they missed the whole discussion awhile back about
the people who never heard from them after sending resumes.  

I use the frequency of these messages and the quality of the job as a
barometer for the condition of the job market.

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/02 10:14AM >>>
Great opportunity for a Sr. Oracle DBA with 8i AND 9i certification to
join
this software
industry leader in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Base salary is in the 90-120K range and depends on experience.

Relocation Assistance is provided.

PLEASE Do Not send your resume for this position UNLESS you have the
skills 
outlined below for this position.

Please Do Not send your resume unless you have a stable work history.
Candidates whose work history includes frequent job changes connot be
considered.
If you are employed by a consulting company you must have a long term
project history.

This is a full time staff position so no sub-contractors or third
parties
please.

NO H-1B candidates please.

Interested candidates will be required to complete a company
questionnaire
that must be submitted with the resume.

*Description of duties:
Production support of operations required to maintain 7x24
database/application availability.
Logical Design and Physical Design in support of
Production/Development
Database operations 
and support in Solaris/Linux ORACLE 8i/9i environment.
Essential Functions: Backup/recovery, RMAN, Performance tuning, Shell
scripting in Korn and Bourne Shells. ORACLE Internet Directory, ORACLE
Enterprise Manager, development/documentation of standards and
procedures.
ORACLE DBA duties to include user management data exports and imports,
writing ORACLE scripts, general monitoring of system performance. 
Assisting users with SQL and PL/SQL needs in day-to-day operations and
implementation of logical designs.

* Requirements:
-Oracle 8i and 9i Certification
-7+Years in IT
-5+ years of Production Oracle DBA experience..including 8i and 9i
-Knowledge of OPS/RAC, OEM
-Proficient with SQL, PL/SQL, unix shell scritping
-Expert understanding of Oracle architecture 
-Full understanding of Database concepts 
-Knowledge of relational database design 
-Must be a Self-starter. 

For immediate consideration, please email your resume as an attachment
to:

OraStaff, Inc.
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Phone: 1-800-549-8502. 
Please Use Job Code: One/Charlotte/Certified DBA/Carol

We pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would be
qualified/interested
in the
position described above- if it is not a match for your skills.
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Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Andert
I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list here)
to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output compares
nicely to the unix uptime command.  

We had some maintenance last Wed night that bounced the host (Tru64
5.1a cluster) and naturally the database as well.  But when I looked at
the host uptime compared to the db_uptime.sql, it looks like the
database has been up longer than the host.  The db is 8.1.7.3.  The host
is a Tru64 Compaq (er HP) GS160 AlphaWildfire machine.  We are in a
cluster, but the databases are all still running on one node.  

  1* select STARTUP_TIME from v$instance
SQL> /
27-NOV-2002 18:30:12

SQL> @db_uptime
Database Uptime

Host Name : dgrdb01.firsthealth.com
Instance Name : CLAIM
Uptime : 4days 21hours 53minutes

SQL> !uptime
15:40  up 4 days, 14:52,  7 users,  load average: 4.13, 6.93, 7.08

SQL> select sysdate from dual;

SYSDATE

02-DEC-2002 15:40:39

SQL> 

Is there something wrong with the script or just a misalignment in the
starts?

Stephen Andert
(confused in AZ)


-- db_uptime.sql
select
'Host Name : '||host_name||chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name||chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
||floor((xx-floor(xx))*24)||'hours '
   
||round(((xx-floor(xx)*24)-floor((xx-floor(xx)*24)))*60)
||'minutes'
"Database Uptime"
from (
select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
from v$instance
 )

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RE: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Andert
Govind, 

Actually, what I want it the same format as I have, I just want the
numbers to match (or fall within) the numbers reported by the unix
uptime command for example "up 4 days, 21:08 hours".  In my case, the
unix uptime is saying the host was last restarted after the database
startup_time reported in v$instance.  

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:43PM >>>
You may use following query will give you the uptime in hours and in
minutes.

select sysdate, startup_time,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24*60 ,0 ) uptime_in_minutes,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24 ,0)  uptime_in_hours
from v$instance

SYSDATESTARTUP_TIME   UPTIME_IN_MINUTES UPTIME_IN_HOURS
-- -- - ---
20021202203918 20021202044608   953  16

Hope this is what you wanted.

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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

> Stephen Andert wrote:
> >
> > I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
> > to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output
compares
> > nicely to the unix uptime command.
>
>I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
> wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60
-
> you have tremendous rounding errors.
> My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it
but
> I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) ||
'minutes '
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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Re: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-02 Thread Stephen Andert
With my luck and the damagement in my current workplace, I'd probably
get a written warning for not having done this with all of our databases
:)

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:24PM >>>
Stephen,

If I was in your position I would go and explain to your boss that
your
"mad DBA skillz" have resulted in a database that has better uptime
than
it's physical host even, and discuss a pay rise!  Fixing the script
will
probably return your status to "mere mortal DBA".



   

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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

> Stephen Andert wrote:
> >
> > I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
> > to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output
compares
> > nicely to the unix uptime command.
>
>I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
> wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60
-
> you have tremendous rounding errors.
> My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it
but
> I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) ||
'minutes
'
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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RE: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-04 Thread Stephen Andert
Give the man a cigar. (virtual one of course :)

That is what I was looking for and makes unix uptime and db_uptime.sql
report a compatible time frame.

Thanks Jared.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/02 04:02PM >>>
Try:

col uptime format a40 head 'UPTIME'

select  to_char(sysdate,'hh:miam')
|| ' up ' || trunc( (sysdate - startup_time) ,0) || ' days, '
|| trunc( (sysdate - trunc(sysdate)) *24 ,0)  || ':' -- hours
|| trunc( (sysdate - trunc(sysdate,'hh')) *24*60 ,0 ) || ', '
-- 
minutes
|| s.user_count || ' users' uptime
from v$instance i, (
    select count(*) user_count
from v$session
where username is not null
) s
/





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Govind, 

Actually, what I want it the same format as I have, I just want the
numbers to match (or fall within) the numbers reported by the unix
uptime command for example "up 4 days, 21:08 hours".  In my case, the
unix uptime is saying the host was last restarted after the database
startup_time reported in v$instance. 

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:43PM >>>
You may use following query will give you the uptime in hours and in
minutes.

select sysdate, startup_time,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24*60 ,0 ) uptime_in_minutes,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24 ,0)  uptime_in_hours
from v$instance

SYSDATESTARTUP_TIME   UPTIME_IN_MINUTES UPTIME_IN_HOURS
-- -- - ---
20021202203918 20021202044608   953  16

Hope this is what you wanted.

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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

> Stephen Andert wrote:
> >
> > I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
> > to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output
compares
> > nicely to the unix uptime command.
>
>I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
> wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60
-
> you have tremendous rounding errors.
> My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it
but
> I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) ||
'minutes '
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


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RE: Database up longer that host?

2002-12-05 Thread Stephen Andert
OK, since it's virtual anyway,  

>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/04/02 06:18PM >>>
Thanks, but I'd rather have a nice shot of Scotch.

:)

Jared





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Give the man a cigar. (virtual one of course :)

That is what I was looking for and makes unix uptime and db_uptime.sql
report a compatible time frame.

Thanks Jared.

Stephen

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/02 04:02PM >>>
Try:

col uptime format a40 head 'UPTIME'

select  to_char(sysdate,'hh:miam')
|| ' up ' || trunc( (sysdate - startup_time) ,0) || ' days, '
|| trunc( (sysdate - trunc(sysdate)) *24 ,0)  || ':' -- hours
|| trunc( (sysdate - trunc(sysdate,'hh')) *24*60 ,0 ) || ', '
-- 
minutes
|| s.user_count || ' users' uptime
from v$instance i, (
select count(*) user_count
from v$session
where username is not null
) s
/





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Govind, 

Actually, what I want it the same format as I have, I just want the
numbers to match (or fall within) the numbers reported by the unix
uptime command for example "up 4 days, 21:08 hours".  In my case, the
unix uptime is saying the host was last restarted after the database
startup_time reported in v$instance. 

Stephen 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/02/02 07:43PM >>>
You may use following query will give you the uptime in hours and in
minutes.

select sysdate, startup_time,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24*60 ,0 ) uptime_in_minutes,
round( (sysdate - startup_time) *24 ,0)  uptime_in_hours
from v$instance

SYSDATESTARTUP_TIME   UPTIME_IN_MINUTES UPTIME_IN_HOURS
-- -- - ---
20021202203918 20021202044608   953          16

Hope this is what you wanted.

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On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Stephane Faroult wrote:

> Stephen Andert wrote:
> >
> > I use a script named db_uptime.sql (I think I got it from the list
here)
> > to calculate how long the database has been up.  The output
compares
> > nicely to the unix uptime command.
>
>I hope that the query doesn't come from the list, because it is
> wrong. The error is to apply floor() before multiplying by 24 or 60
-
> you have tremendous rounding errors.
> My own database has not been up long enough to be 100% sure about it
but
> I believe the following to be correct :

Hi:

Neither of the scripts works for me.  Try this?

select
'Host Name : '||host_name|| chr(10)||
'Instance Name : '||instance_name|| chr(10)||
'Uptime : ' ||floor(xx)||'days '
|| floor( 24 * (xx - floor(xx)) ) || 'hours '
|| round( 60 * (24 * xx - floor(24 * xx))) ||
'minutes '
from (
 select host_name,instance_name ,(sysdate-STARTUP_TIME) xx
 from v$instance
 )
/


Meg Crocker
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