[Origami] Miyuki Kawamura
Hi everyone, I'd love to get in touch with Miyuki Kawamura, for some questions about origami publications. Can anyone forward me her email address, please? Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - Germany lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] OrigaMIT 2023 Convention
Hi Everyone, OrigaMIT ( http://origamit.mit.edu/ ) is going to hold the 2023 Convention in November. I read on their page that they will hold a small book shop there, with some of their old convention books available. Are any of you going to attend and would be so kind as to help me by purchasing a specific one for me? It would be of great help to me. Please write me privately ( lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com ) Many thanks in advance ❤ Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - Germany lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] Third Joisel Award
Hi Donna, actually the example you have brought to our attention is quite specific. Yes, in professional contexts anonymity is quite common, as the outcome of the competition can be a contract or scholarship, or in general, benefits related to the profession. Winners usually get more than just a prize, and therefore it's very important to reduce the minimum potential malicious judgments by the jury. Furthermore, in these cases a professional jury is involved, and it's not a vote from the people from the entire community. I'm sure you get the significant difference which leads to the strict need for anonymity. On the opposite side, I'm surprised you would consider it pretty normal in our context. Lorenzo On Tue, 22 Aug 2023 at 20:48, Donna Walcavage via Origami < origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > The American Institute of Architects and American Society of Landscape > Architects require totally blind entries for their awards programs at the > national (including international projects) and the local level (including > NYC and various local chapters in states or metro areas) . In fact if you > submit and the name of the firm or architect or landscape architect is on > the submitted materials for review by the jury, the project will be > disqualified. > > I'm surprised that people find it to be an issue, it is pretty standard > in the design world, so as far I think Ilan and team are right on to do it > that way. > > Donna > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - Germany lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open
Dear Hans, dear Laura, stimulating replies, yours. Thanks Ilan for the clarification. Here are my comments, long comments :( Hans, first of all, please don't take this personally, because I used "if you think..." combined with harsh tones. I wasn't referring to you, it was my way of saying "if someone thinks...". I well know (and I agree) that most of the time we all inherently separate the artifact from the creator, in any field, in any art form or production. Although it makes sense at the level of mass consumption (in which numbers count almost exclusively), this for me does not help to promote, support and enhance art in general, and artifacts in particular. For this reason, while acknowledging that knowing the author (writer for a book, director for a film, creator for an origami...) doesn't change anything for most of us, I will always oppose the tendency to put secondly the identity of those who are behind a creation, of any kind. For me, the only way to promote something is to promote who (or what) creates. All the rest is sterile, pure and unique exercise in style, an end in itself. In the case of the competition in question, therefore I wonder what it can lead to origami itself, a competition that ignores the creator, and focuses on the final result. I don't understand its meaning, and for me this is, somehow (at the end) to the detriment of Origami. The last ten years of my life have been dedicated to frequenting contemporary art, between large international fairs and important European galleries, and the first thing that greets me when I approach a work at Art Basel is the gallery owner who begins by speaking to me of the artist and of the genesis of the work, even before the art piece in itself. And this is how I became terribly passionate about contemporary art, which tends not to be understood by contemporaries themselves, precisely because they don't know how to approach it, they are not helped, guided in this (as happened to me). I learned that there is no work without knowing its creator, there is no film without knowing the director or screenwriter, because for me even the mere technique is the fruit of the creative process (and the latter is strictly personal, nominal). Regarding the bias, I believe that what is called prejudice for me is, on the contrary, the necessary completion, is part of the artifact, because in my view you will never be able to separate creation by creator, without subtracting something (value?) from the creation. Let me give you a rather clear example. One of the artists who most excites me is Joseph Beuys (moreover - pure coincidence - born and lived in the same city where I have lived for 7 years, and his family home at the time is 100 meters from my house). Beuys joined the Nazi youth, and went to war fighting for Nazism. And this is also what I want to know, because in this way I can form an opinion on his artistic development and on why he managed to interpret artistically those 70s and 80s so intensely and well. Anyone could have done his works (as they always say in the field of contemporary art), but at that time he only did them, and for me it is essential to understand why. Of course, I don't go that far in origami, I'm much less involved and committed, and to me, probably, the name of the creator of a model will say little, but it doesn't matter, because the fact remains that it is only knowing the author that I will be able to grow my knowledge and passion for Origami. As for what "art" is, I don't think it's relevant, nevertheless here I would like to be clear: I speak of "origami art" only for convenience, for simplicity, because everyone uses this definition, but I really don't consider Origami at all as art. For me it is a sophisticated and very complex and intriguing craftsmanship, but craftsmanship remains, because I really don't think I'm able to identify any artistic and expressive path in origami, as I know it when I look at the forms of art that I know and that they fascinate me. In the first part of Laura's email, I perceive a sort of importance of the creator's identity and She might regret not having paid enough attention to it at the time. Here, this is precisely one of the things that I consider very important: to raise awareness of the knowledge of who is behind a work, in all their life and personality. And since this is a very complicated path, it is essential that this type of origami activism is alive and growing. Regards, Lorenzo On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 15:19, Papirfoldning.dk wrote: > You might refer to the opportunity for the author to submit its work > anonymously, which is surely fair and which is much different than > something decided as general rule for the competition. > > Also that, but not primarily. > > Furthermore, there's a big misunderstanding about "bias": when I judge an > artifact I like to do that in a certain context, a
Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open
Hans, Miranda, You might refer to the opportunity for the author to submit its work anonymously, which is surely fair and which is much different than something decided as general rule for the competition. Furthermore, there's a big misunderstanding about "bias": when I judge an artifact I like to do that in a certain context, and the context includes (among some aspects) the identity of the creator. This does not definitely lead to a bias, this lead to a better understanding of the genesis of the piece I'm going to vote. In my opinion, if anyone thinks to be able to assign a fair "vote" without contextualising with the author identity and background, well to me it's at least naive. Voting for an artifact is not like voting for the better colour for the façade of a public building. Does anyone of you like contemporary art and visit fairs, exhibitions, galleries and so on? I can assure you can find a "pole stuck in the ground" and quoted hundreds thousands dollars, because it comes from a whole artistic path of the artist. And it's not just "because the market". In other word, if you think you can "detach" a piece of art from its creator, and still be able to judge it, well... to me you have no any idea of what art is. Lorenzo On Sun, 20 Aug 2023, 23:07 Papirfoldning.dk, wrote: > > On 20 Aug 2023, at 22.26, Mizu-randa wrote: > > > > *From:* Lorenzo via Origami > *Sent:* 20 August, 2023 21:50 > Have you ever seen an artistic competition where you, voters, didn't know > anything about the author? > > > it’s not uncommon for a competition (especially artistic) to be under > motto or pseudonym. > > Yes, that is common. > Just search for: art competition "anonymous" > and you will see plenty of anonymous cases and considerations regarding > securing a more fair competition, including avoiding conflicts of interest, > discrimination towards genders or minorities, etc. (in a huge number of > results is due to information in cookies being "anonymous", but even > excluding those there are plenty). > > These considerations are rooted in real issues, and pending your goals and > circumstances may be well founded. > > Historically, specifically authors have used pseudonyms (i.e. being > anonymous) to avoid being unfairly treated, not the least women, but also > men for various reasons. > > Regards, > Hans > > Hans Dybkjær > http://papirfoldning.dk > Society: http://foldning.dk > >
Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open
Dear Gerardo, your explanation is, of course, what I already guessed. Nevertheless, I'm quite (let's say: very) surprised that anyone wanted to hide the creators' name, as it seems to me like a rather crude "military act of force", an imposition that I don't think has any equal in any of the votes, that I can think of, in any artistic or creative world I know out there. Have you ever seen an artistic competition where you, voters, didn't know anything about the author? I never have. And, I'm sorry to say, but if you assume that those who vote in your competition can do it in a "mischievous" way, well then you explicitly doubt the good faith of the same people you invite them to vote (WTF!), and for me (no ifs, ands or buts) you are the least suited person to organize anything aimed at the community. I will never vote for a work whose author I don't know, especially when the hiding of the name is due to the fact that it is believed that I may be conditioned. This offends and disgusts me. In my life I have learned never to lose faith in people, and the day people learn to have sincere and heartfelt faith in others will be a better day. If you don't trust people, don't expect they will trust you. Greetings. On Sun, 20 Aug 2023 at 16:52, gera...@neorigami.com wrote: > Lorenzo is asking why don't the names of the nominated creators and > folders appear on the award entries webpage. This page > https://cfcorigami.com/award-entries-2023 > > I'm not a part of the awards' organizers or anything like that. I am just > an origamist that is very interested in this project as well as other > projects related to the origami community. Now, I can tell you that the > awards try to exclude the names of the people nominated, during the > voting and judging phase, in order to reduce the related bias during the > process. Conscious or unconsciously, some participants might vote for a > nominated work because it was made by an origamist they admire, or not vote > for another because it was made by someone they don't like so much or > someone they just don't know. That wouldn't be OK. > > Here's a quote from the awards related with that: > > > "Rules and Definitions > > (...)All nominations must include (...) > > 3. Images should not convey who the creator is, as well as the descriptive > text! The voting is anonymous!!" > > > Source: https://cfcorigami.com/joisel-awards-2023 > > > The names of the creators and folders can become a hidrance during the > voting and judging phase, but I do hope they become public after that phase > is over. I hope that answers your question. > > -- > > *Gerardo G.* > gerardo(a)neorigami.com <http://www.neorigami.com> > instagram.com/neorigamicom > *Knowledge and Curiosity in Origami:* > *six private classes online* <https://www.neorigami.com> > > "(...) It doesn’t happen often, but when it does, it takes your breath > away and fills you with the true joy of *origami*. I experienced this in > my lessons with Gerardo G. I wouldn’t trade it for anything. Gerardo is > (...)" *C. R.* *Read the full review* > <https://www.neorigami.com/#h.q2mt4npahmc2> > > > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - Germany lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] The Third Joisel Award - Voting is Open
Is it me, or is there no name of the creator for each model in the competition? If so, why? It's the first time in my life that I see this kind of thing. Lorenzo On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 10:10, Ilan Garibi via Origami < origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > Dear Origami Lovers, > > The voting for the Third Joisel Award is open! > > We have a record number of more than 200 nominations, showing some of the > most intriguing and artistic models created since last August. > > Your choosing will determine the Popular Vote Award in all 8 categories. > You have to be registered at the CfC site > <https://www.cfcorigami.com/award-entries-2023> in order to vote. > > You can vote on multiple models in each category, but you cannot give more > than one vote per model, so there is no point to log in twice and double > your vote. > > Just remember, voting for all makes no sense, so give your votes only to > the best works! > > To vote, you have to click on the model's image, and then click on the > thumb-up icon once. Now you can go back and continue your judging. > > Voting will be closed on the 25th of September, and winners will be > announced in October. More details about that will come soon. > > Best, > > Ilan GARIBI and Nicola TERRY > CfC Managers > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - Germany lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] PCOC past conventions
Dear Origamists, I'm looking for details about Origami Collections from the past PCOC Conventions. >From the OUSA Website (https://origamiusa.org/conventions) I see: Pacific Coast OrigamiUSA Convention 2019 (Portland, OR), see also photo galleries Pacific Coast Origami Convention 2017 (Redondo Beach, CA), see also photo galleries Pacific Coast OrigamiUSA Convention 2015 (Boulder, CO), see also photo galleries Pacific Coast OrigamiUSA Convention 2013 (Albuquerque, NM), see also photo galleries Pacific Coast OrigamiUSA Conference 2011 (Bellevue, WA) Pacific Coast OrigamiUSA Conference 2009 (San Francisco, CA) Pacific Coast Origami Convention 2007 (Vancouver, BC, Canada) photo galleries I would like to know if the Collection book was printed for the 2007, 2009, 2011, 2013 and 2017, and (if possible) how they look. If you know that, or better if you own some of them, could you please post a picture of the cover, and/or contact me (lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com) ? Thanks in advance, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Origami Tanteidan Special Issues
Hi everybody, I'm looking for some second hand Origami Tanteidan Special Issues to buy. If you own some, and want to make some money, please write me an email ( lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com) Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Kasahara cube from GOC2
Hi everybody, Does anyone know where this Kasahara cube was published? I learned it at the last GOC2 online event. It's a 12 module cube, but when looking into Gilad website, and browsing all the Kasahare cubes made by 12 modules, I only find two and neither of them are the one depicted here. [image: 326512724_732582181591850_9054213274077222542_n.jpg] Kind regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] White back side for origami paper
Thanks Nicolas, That's a good hint, if you like to prepare paper for your models, surely. I was just wondering if anyone already compared different brands and checked which ones offer a good quality in terms of "support" (the white paper which is then coloured), in terms of hiding the color (with as little transparency as possible, preserving a fair thinness). If any of you would check its paper storage, and check the red/white paper (the red color seems to me the most easy to be recognized on the other side, in transparency) from different types of paper.. and publish a picture, I would appreciate it a lot, in comparison with my finding. The best "photo comparison" would be putting the origami paper on the white side up, aside of a bright white photocopy paper, and everything on a white/light surface. Thanks in advance, Lorenzo On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 13:18, Nicolas TERRY wrote: > When I want a pure white, I like to use a foil with a white face. > Whatevere that you will glue on the other face, the foil will hide it. > > > Le 30 janv. 2023 à 12:01, Lorenzo via Origami < > origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> a écrit : > > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > maybe Ilan Garibi (as he made some paper reviews), or Nicolas Terry (as > expert reseller) can help on that? > > > > I recently wanted to fold a model where the white side plays an > important role, and needs to be white as much as possible. > > > > Have you already had experience with this, and could you recommend a > good paper, in this regard? > > > > In the picture below you can see two Red/White sheets of paper, one > aside of the other (in the middle of the picture) from two distinct > producers. > > The left one is clearly better, and that could be because it is also a > bit ticker (I just feel that with my hand). > > > > Both of them, when sharply folded back and forth (fold and reverse the > same fold) 3 times, get "damaged" on the color side, in the meaning that > the color "crumbles" along the crease (and this just to mention that both > bring the same quality in terms of colouring). > > > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] OrigaMIT
Dear list, I was trying to contact OrigaMIT, specifically for purchasing some old convention books. Do you know to who I could write? I found Xinhe Zhou (xmz...@mit.edu) and origamit-sa...@mit.edu but I've not had much success. Regards, Lorenzo
Re: [Origami] Books discussions - FB Group
Hi everybody, I really hope not to annoying anyone, if I provide you all of the FB Group link here, and hope list admins can forgive me, if it's not proper for me to share it: https://www.facebook.com/groups/origamipublications I received some requests from you, to be added to the group, and almost immediately I recognised that I had given a feeling of confidential nature to that FB Group which, at the opposite, is meant to be totally public and open to anyone. It needs to grow as much as possible, because it's mainly intended to be a place where people can ask questions and find answers, and for that it requires a wide audience. Then, please, share it as much as you can. I really hope not to be perceived as opposing to this list, I really didn't intend to create an alternative to this list, as I think Mailing Lists and FB Groups have a quite different scope, purpose and use. Kind regards, Lorenzo On Sun, 8 Jan 2023, 15:13 Lorenzo, wrote: > At the end, I created a public FB group. > > I'm not going to publicize it here, as I don't know if it would be well > perceived. > If you are interested just drop me an email (lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com) > or a msg on FB (you can find me as "Lorenzo Lucioni" and freely ask FB > "friendship" without worries). And if you are going to join, feel free to > share with your own friends or commuinities. > > I really (really) don't know if it will be helpful to anyone, if it will > be participated or not, if it is going to grow, or simply abandoned. > People and contents will decide. It could easily be there was/is no any > needs for that, I really don't know and I don't expect anything. > Just... let's see. > > Happy Sunday to everybody, > Lorenzo > > > On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 07:37, Papirfoldning.dk > wrote: > >> On 8 Jan 2023, at 01.15, Lorenzo via Origami < >> origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: >> >> So, I turn the question in: Why there are not so many discussions ongoing >> in this list? Is it just because of lack of topics, or maybe because other >> media replaced this list? >> >> When the oLlist was created, the digital world was much smaller, and the >> IT-savvy origamists likely a smaller group, and hence knit-together. Even >> in the years I've seen, the participants have changed. The current ones >> still make discussions, it's just not your old "oh, I know that person". >> >> Anne, how old is the oList, and how many subscribers does it have today? >> >> Today, the SoMe world is fragmented. Lorenzo mentions Facebook which has >> already hundreds, if not thousands, of origami groups - even in Danish >> there is a handful - so which ones to follow? Instagram, YouTube, Quora, >> mailing lists (I'm a member of at least 5 different origami lists), forums, >> ... nobody is everywhere. I know many people who do not bother to use >> Facebook, many for principled reasons, so you will never reach them there. >> >> When I communicate and coordinate, people propose WhatsApp (I don't have >> it), sms (texting, including images), Facebook private messages (aka >> messenger), a dedicated forum (who's to administrate it? It's even more >> cumbersome that being a mailing list admin), Facebook groups (same >> question), SnapChat (I don't use it), and likely more in different parts of >> the world. >> >> That is likely the one advantage of mail: If you have a digital presence >> at all, you have an email address and can read the mails sent to you. If >> using anything but the oList with its stringent rules (bordering >> frightening for any but the dedicated few), you can also include pictures. >> And writing text and including images in emails are way easier in emails >> than in Facebook (see, people have different preferences, as Lorenzo states >> the opposite). >> >> The hope of getting a common place for specialised origami discussions is >> in vain. XKCD captures the idea perfectly for standards: >> https://m.xkcd.com/927/. >> >> Lorenzo has strong points about why a mailing list is not good for his >> purposes, even if in the end it boils down to personal preferences and >> personal connectedness. >> >> Lorenzo's example of the isbn number of this blurred book image, fits >> perfectly into the ephemeral nature of Facebook. Someone is likely to idly >> browse through the messages and to have an answer, and it is easy to ignore >> messages you are not interested in. >> >> This ephemeral nature is also the weak point of Facebook (ignoring the >> problem of many people not having an account or not using it): one week >> later (not to say one year later) it
Re: [Origami] Books discussions + Re: Tanteidan Convention book #1 (1995)
At the end, I created a public FB group. I'm not going to publicize it here, as I don't know if it would be well perceived. If you are interested just drop me an email (lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com) or a msg on FB (you can find me as "Lorenzo Lucioni" and freely ask FB "friendship" without worries). And if you are going to join, feel free to share with your own friends or commuinities. I really (really) don't know if it will be helpful to anyone, if it will be participated or not, if it is going to grow, or simply abandoned. People and contents will decide. It could easily be there was/is no any needs for that, I really don't know and I don't expect anything. Just... let's see. Happy Sunday to everybody, Lorenzo On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 07:37, Papirfoldning.dk wrote: > On 8 Jan 2023, at 01.15, Lorenzo via Origami < > origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > > So, I turn the question in: Why there are not so many discussions ongoing > in this list? Is it just because of lack of topics, or maybe because other > media replaced this list? > > When the oLlist was created, the digital world was much smaller, and the > IT-savvy origamists likely a smaller group, and hence knit-together. Even > in the years I've seen, the participants have changed. The current ones > still make discussions, it's just not your old "oh, I know that person". > > Anne, how old is the oList, and how many subscribers does it have today? > > Today, the SoMe world is fragmented. Lorenzo mentions Facebook which has > already hundreds, if not thousands, of origami groups - even in Danish > there is a handful - so which ones to follow? Instagram, YouTube, Quora, > mailing lists (I'm a member of at least 5 different origami lists), forums, > ... nobody is everywhere. I know many people who do not bother to use > Facebook, many for principled reasons, so you will never reach them there. > > When I communicate and coordinate, people propose WhatsApp (I don't have > it), sms (texting, including images), Facebook private messages (aka > messenger), a dedicated forum (who's to administrate it? It's even more > cumbersome that being a mailing list admin), Facebook groups (same > question), SnapChat (I don't use it), and likely more in different parts of > the world. > > That is likely the one advantage of mail: If you have a digital presence > at all, you have an email address and can read the mails sent to you. If > using anything but the oList with its stringent rules (bordering > frightening for any but the dedicated few), you can also include pictures. > And writing text and including images in emails are way easier in emails > than in Facebook (see, people have different preferences, as Lorenzo states > the opposite). > > The hope of getting a common place for specialised origami discussions is > in vain. XKCD captures the idea perfectly for standards: > https://m.xkcd.com/927/. > > Lorenzo has strong points about why a mailing list is not good for his > purposes, even if in the end it boils down to personal preferences and > personal connectedness. > > Lorenzo's example of the isbn number of this blurred book image, fits > perfectly into the ephemeral nature of Facebook. Someone is likely to idly > browse through the messages and to have an answer, and it is easy to ignore > messages you are not interested in. > > This ephemeral nature is also the weak point of Facebook (ignoring the > problem of many people not having an account or not using it): one week > later (not to say one year later) it is like impossible to find the answer, > the isbn number again. Yes, you can access, but not search, archives - > slowly and cumbersome, beyond the past month even your personal postings > are practically impossible to find. You would have to ask again, and hope > somebody answers this time as well. > > All that is if you can even remember where you got the answer. There is no > way to search across sms, mail, facebook, messenger, whatsapp, instagram, > forums, blogs, and more. > > To sum up: There is a plethora of options for asking questions and > discuss. There is no way all those you know, will see it in any one > channel. Nothing precludes you from asking the question on the oList or an > arbitrary facebook group. If you get an answer, you just try the same place > again, if not, try another place. > > Regards, > Hans > > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] Books discussions + Re: Tanteidan Convention book #1 (1995)
Hi Ann, Thank you for your email and pardon for the late reply. I will play devil's advocate, here, and ask *why* a group mailing list is > not a "proper" solution for this discussion? Even if a particular topic is > of interest to only part of the community, isn't that nearly always true, > for any given thread? > I feel the email as an old media, less appreciated than in the past. As you said, it seems mostly used one-way, nowadays, at least in this ML. So, I turn the question in: Why there are not so many discussions ongoing in this list? Is it just because of lack of topics, or maybe because other media replaced this list? For example, on FB there's a group "Origami Help": honestly, when I search for info about something specific, I feel that FB group will potentially give more help, because of a wider audience, at least. Writing an email takes much time to me than writing a FB post, attaching images, directly mentioning people (tag) to alert them, and eventually sharing my post on other groups, and so on ... Also, FB is much more "visual" than a ML, and this is something quite important to me. > While I am the first to agree that the use of email (and the technology > that people use to read and send it) has not evolved in a way that makes > true discussion lists all that common any more, this is a pretty > low-traffic list at the moment. It could, in my opinion, certainly > withstand some regular discussion of something as important to the > community as origami books > I understand, but actually I guess you over estimate the interest that the topic "collecting" could have for the community. Typical questions could be "does anyone know where I can find that book?" or "could you please provide ISBN of the book shown here?"... so, not actually discussions, not anything interesting for the community. that's why I mentioned "flooding", because when you collect books, and want to exchange info about collections, you end-up exchanging messages which are not really discussions. Furthermore, the rapidity of an answer on FB is much higher than any ML. Yesterday I was looking for a book, I had only a blur pic of the cover, I published on Origami Help and had the ISBN from a group member in a few minutes. If that level of list traffic were to be perceived as a "flood", or if this > sort of thing is somehow no longer desired by the list membership, well, > does anyone have a better idea for some sort of forum that would support > such a discussion? Should we finally find another underlying solution for a > home for the O-list community? > If this list has not much traffic, it is maybe because members have less topics to share/discuss, and specifically it seems to me there are not much people interested in collecting (I don't see any msg about that at all). Personally, I do not think that a social-media page is really that great a > way to have a discussion; > Yes, agree. Nevertheless, collectors are probably not discussing much. Instead, they are mainly asking and they would reach a wide audience. - Facebook pages require a user to "go" to a spot to make sure they see > all the new material (and even then The Algorithm tries hard to only show > you what it thinks you want) and then dig through nested comments to follow > a conversation; and don't even go into what happens when users have blocked > or unfollowed each other so that no one can actually see a whole thread; > The points here you mentioned I don't feel them so strong, personally. I feel quite comfortable in FB groups, browsing FB threads... > And few systems are going to make it easy for folks to discuss something > for more than a few back-and-forth comments if they're coming in on a phone > or similar device. > Another good point: mobile devices. Many people do not use their laptop anymore, and actually when it comes to mobile phones, discussing on FB is much more effective and easy than via ML, in my experience. I'm writing this email on mobile and actually... it's a mess. It comes down to what specific sort of conversation does one want, and on > what topic, and how do you want people to interact with it, what people, > how often, etc.? I think if one can try to nail down some of those > answers, then there's hope of creating a viable place for a particular > online (sub)-community to exist. > Yes, that's why I thought to FB (fast and visual), for this topic. Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Books discussions + Re: Tanteidan Convention book #1 (1995)
Hi Anne, everybody, A reprint for those old convention books would be nice, even though it's quite easy to find "pirate" pdf for them (I'm not saying that I approve that or anything else). As collector, I'm looking for the original edition, and paying several hundred dollars would be fine for me. Not that I'm rich, but I'm willing to pay that price for a bunch of very few rare origami publications. Anyone here who thinks she/he can help in sharing, please share my inquiry with others. If it's not a matter of money, I would also be very happy to exchange one-to-many with my several other origami books. Just a note about this topic (books/publications): I held back from sending these kinds of messages to the list, in the past, because I thought (and still think) these are interesting topics for a small part of the origamists only. And I didn't want to bother the list. Recently, I received only a few signs of interest for a separate group (focused to books/publications only). Too few, in my opinion, to give life to something that has a future, and certainly I don't want to promote any separation or "restricted" group, at all, and furthermore I'm also discontinuous in my activities, so it has to be a shared effort. So, please, keep contacting me privately, if interested in discussing about collecting books, as we can sort out a proper solution (such as a public FB page which anyone can consult, without having the email inbox flooded). Regards, Lorenzo On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 at 16:44, Anne LaVin via Origami < origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 8:22 AM Lorenzo via Origami < > origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote: > >> Hi everybody, >> happy new 2023 (or Guten Rutsch, as they say in Germany). >> >> Do any of you know who owns the Convention book from the 1st Tanteidan >> Convention in 1995? >> If you have any hint for me, where to search / who to ask... it'd be very >> appreciated. >> > > This book is long (long) out of print, was privately printed (no ISBN) > and had a small production run. It is quite rare, in other words. A copy > has occasionally been sold (for, as I recall, several hundred dollars) when > auctioned a couple of times at Tokyo Tanteidan conventions in the past. > > Wishing I owned a copy, myself! > > I wonder if the Tanteidan powers-that-be could be persuaded to re-issue > it, and/or its similarly out-of-print siblings... > > Anne > > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Tanteidan Convention book #1 (1995)
Hi everybody, happy new 2023 (or Guten Rutsch, as they say in Germany). Do any of you know who owns the Convention book from the 1st Tanteidan Convention in 1995? If you have any hint for me, where to search / who to ask... it'd be very appreciated. Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Japanese book...
Hi everyone, Does anyone know what kind of book this is? https://www.hon034.com/items/25963002 it seems to me something like proceedings of a Math/Origami conference, or similar. Can you tell more? Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] request for JOAS Magazines
Dear origamists, I'm looking to add to my collection some JOAS Mags back issues, specifically from 139 to 174 (volume 24 to 29). If anyone wants to make some money... I'm here. Here you can check the current price for them: https://origami.jp/en/register/backnumber/ Out of curiosity, is anyone from the USA or Latin America coming to the Italian convention, this year in December? Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] Chinese book
Amazing! Thanks Nicolas for letting me know. I'm wondering how many chinese origami books are/were only available in China... who knows Regards, Lorenzo On Sat, 5 Nov 2022, 19:39 TERRY Nicolas, wrote: > Lorenzo, This book will be available on origami shop in the upcoming > weeks/months
Re: [Origami] WOD scheduling
Dear Mary, I can understand the constraints, but the origami community is only one. I'm quite rigid and I cannot consider an origami day as "world", when it excludes Europe, especially when it spans over a two weeks period. More and more, in Origami, we have events with "high-sounding" names (olympiad, marathon, prizes, competitions, world origami days...) and I really hope we will not become elitists instead of inclusive, because the step is short and treacherous, even to the one with the best will. My best wishes for a successful WOD. On Thu, 13 Oct 2022 at 22:50, Mary Drews wrote: > Hi Lorenzo- > > Thanks for your thoughts. I'm one of the WOD team members, and we have > struggled with this very issue. The "compromise" seems to be everyone being > annoyed a little. WOD is a joint effort with JOAS (Japan Origami Academic > Society) and we "favored" Japan in our time choice. Sadly, to present a > world wide conference there is no convenient time for everyone. The > solution we presented is the beginning of the work day in Japan, end of the > workday in the US, and sadly middle of the night for Europe. I appreciate > your suggestion, but your solution moves the middle of the night to Japan > and that's a non-starter for the sponsor. Unlike other events, we do not > prerecord sessions, so the recording is the actual stream. I'm very sorry > that recordings are not a good solution for you and I wish we could solve > this issue to everyone's satisfaction, but not at this time. > > Thank your for comments. > > Happy Folding > > Mary Drews > On 10/13/2022 11:55 AM, Lorenzo via Origami wrote: > > Dear origamists, > > I've been evaluating whether to attend a WOD for years, but I always need > to deal with a very bad scheduling for the EU folders. > This year, for example, all the classes are from 1am and 3am Central EU > Time. Same for the last WOD editions I remember. > > It's a quite sad thing, in my opinion, because Europe is rich in Origami > associations and origamists. > > I know there is not a perfect solution for the whole planet, of course, > and I also know there will be recordings available, but a better > compromise, like 10 or 11 p.m. GMT seems to me would permit US, EU and JP > to attend live to everyone, it seems to me, because the the range 1am-7am > would have been "placed" across eastern Europe / western Asia (Russia, > basically). > > That's a pity, to me. > > Regards, > Lorenzo > > -- > Lorenzo Lucioni > Duesseldorf - DE > lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com > > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] WOD scheduling
Dear origamists, I've been evaluating whether to attend a WOD for years, but I always need to deal with a very bad scheduling for the EU folders. This year, for example, all the classes are from 1am and 3am Central EU Time. Same for the last WOD editions I remember. It's a quite sad thing, in my opinion, because Europe is rich in Origami associations and origamists. I know there is not a perfect solution for the whole planet, of course, and I also know there will be recordings available, but a better compromise, like 10 or 11 p.m. GMT seems to me would permit US, EU and JP to attend live to everyone, it seems to me, because the the range 1am-7am would have been "placed" across eastern Europe / western Asia (Russia, basically). That's a pity, to me. Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Teaching origami (e.g. squash fold without pre-crease)
Dear origamists, Is there any ongoing project related to 'teaching origami in a workshop', in terms of recommendations on how to better teach specific folds? In the last 2+ covid years, most of us have attended several zoom sessions, and especially because of the "remote" character (which does not permit the teacher to see how the participants are doing...), many of us could have experienced troubles in understanding/following explanations. Clear and proper description seemed to me very important, much more that a workshop in person. Therefore, a sort of committee which would draw some guidelines (hints), would be really helpful for teachers, in my opinion. Since I'm quite critical and attentive to the explanation techniques and abilities, I have in my mind some to several observations to share, to help who leads a workshop, to do better. Please let me know if there's already something of this kind, ongoing. One example is the squash fold. I would strongly recommend teachers to always announce they are going to make a squash fold, instead of "blindly" going through the classic pre-crease, which sometimes leads to a not precise squash, at the end. "Expert" folders would have the opportunity to execute the squash fold how they like to do, if they feel more comfortable not doing the pre-crease. What above (squash fold) is not strictly related to the teaching from remote, but it does not really matter: it belongs to the topic of better teaching, in my opinion. If there's no project of this sort, I would like to start one, together with who would collaborate. Something simple (keep it simple), such as a shared document where anyone can list what he feels would be better for teaching specific folds, or anything related to the teaching styles. Please note: I'm not actually strongly interested in didactic and so on, I'm not thinking on how to teach in schools to kids, I'm just (simply) thinking on our several origami conventions and zoom events. Something very practical, something which can be read by anyone who is going to teach something, and would like to improve his/her way of teaching. Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Origami book collection(s)
Dear origamists, After several years, I would like to return passionate and active in the origami world, at least as far as book collecting is concerned, with the hope, maybe one day, of being able to preserve a paper copy of what the history of origami has made and pass it on to posterity. I wanted to know (even in private messages, if the topic is somehow 'boring') about anyone who runs it's own collection (books and/or magazines), in printed paper form (not pdf). Old style, let's say :-) I wanted to share info and knowledge about old books, what exists, what was published. >From time to time I also find (very) old books which I already own, on auction sites, stores, and I thought they might be interesting for other collectors... Just to give clarity about the "size", I have something like 3 thousand books, some very rare, and a few dozens of thousand publications (mags, bulletins, newsletters, convention books...) ... always looking for new additions but also to share and collaborate, if possible. Surely, at a certain time (sooner rather than later), everything will go to the origami community. My dream is to find a Book library in some big city, which would acquire (for free) everything for me, and make my collection available to a large audience of people... but in the era of the eBook I guess it will stay a dream :-( Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Duesseldorf - DE lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] PCOC 2017 proceedings wanted
Hi Faye, all, thank you for letting me know but yes, I forgot to specify it, I'm interested in the paper copy. Best, Lorenzo On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 20:41, wrote: > I don’t know if you really want the paper copy, but the PDF is available > on the OUSA website. > > https://origamiusa.org/catalog/products/pcoc-2019-keep-it-weird-pdf > > > > Faye > > > > *From:* Origami *On Behalf Of * > Lorenzo > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 16, 2021 1:49 PM > *To:* origami > *Subject:* [Origami] PCOC 2017 proceedings wanted > > > > Dear origamists, > > > > I hope everything is fine with you, because of Covid. > > > > I'm very interested in purchasing a second-hand PCOC 2017 book. If any of > you would offer it to me, please write to me directly ( > lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com). > > I'll be happy to pay any desired price (plus postage) or offer you some > origami books in exchange. > > > > Kind regards, > > Lorenzo > > > > -- > > Lorenzo Lucioni > > Wildenbruchstr. 47 > > 40545 Duesseldorf - DE > > +49.1525.9768654 > > lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] PCOC 2017 proceedings wanted
Dear origamists, I hope everything is fine with you, because of Covid. I'm very interested in purchasing a second-hand PCOC 2017 book. If any of you would offer it to me, please write to me directly ( lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com). I'll be happy to pay any desired price (plus postage) or offer you some origami books in exchange. Kind regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] OUSA Convention 1983 Annual Collection
Dear origamists, I'm looking for the original spiral-bound of the Convention 1983 Annual Collection. If anyone owns it, and would like to sell it, I'll be very happy to purchase it. I live in Germany but have a US based address also, so no issue for shipping. Hope you can help, I'm very interested. Best regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] what a funny old origami book :-)
I would wish you Merry Christmas... with this funny retro' not-origami construction kit :-) https://www.ebay.it/itm/184569648362 Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Tamamushi Washi paper
Hi everybody, Some years ago I purchased a packet of Tamamushi Washi paper, duo color (gold or silver on one side) with metal-like surface, similar to this one: https://viereck-verlag.de/en/produkt/tamamushi-washi-18cm-2/ but not actually the same, since mine has not the white side. Here you can see the leaflet attached to that paper: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DTPaAlqqsZiREmBDPTgXfSNojVhB5l1D/view?usp=sharing Does anyone recognize it and knows where I could find more? I was even not able to find the original producer... :-( Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] CREASED Magazine
Hi everyone, I'm looking for some old issues of the CREASED Magazine, paper printed format: http://www.creased.com/home.html In particular, I'm looking for #7, #8, #10, #11 and #12. If you have, and would sell, please drop me a message ( lorenzo.orig...@gmail.com) Best regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] CREASED Magazine
Hi everyone, I'm looking for some old issues of the CREASED Magazine, paper printed format: http://www.creased.com/home.html In particular, I'm looking for #7, #8, #10, #11 and #12. If you have, and would sell, please drop me a message ( lorenzo.orig...@gmail.com) Best regards, Lorenzo
[Origami] Belaurus origamists
Hi dears, Are any of you from Belarus, and/or lives there, or knows someone who lives there? I'd like to have an Origami book which is available in Belaurus only and I would offer one free copy to her/him too: http://belarusbook.by/knigi/nauchno-populyarnyie-izdaniya/orgigami-dlya-vsex.html Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] 4 Esquinas - Revista Latinoamericana de Origami
Hi dear folders, I have some paperback issues of 4 Esquinas, like: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=revista+latinoamericana+de+origami and I would find more, but I no longer find them paperback on amazon. I don't have a Kindle and would not like any digital version. Does anyone of you know have some paperback issues to sell, and/or know how to contact Paul Espinoza? Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Special edition of “Origami Tanteidan Magazine"
Hi all, is there any JOAS Member (not "simple" subscriber) who can tell me more about the special edition of the Magazine, which members only receive once a year? Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Dmitry Lysyuk
Hi everybody, I ran into this book: http://belarusbook.by/knigi/nauchno-populyarnyie-izdaniya/orgigami-dlya-vsex.html Origami for everyone by Dmitry Lysyuk and I would like to have more info about that book. Does anyone know how to reach Dmitry Lysyuk (email address)? Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] OUSA Origami Collection books
Hi all, I recently went through my OUSA Convention books and I have some missing "Origami Collection", which I would really like to find in their original spiral-bound form. I know they are now available at Amazon, printed in a "modern way", but still... I like the original spiral-bound publications. If anyone of you would sell the old ones, I'm looking for: Origami Collection 2005, 2006, 2007, 2011, 2014, 2015 Of course I will pay what you ask, plus postage. Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] Save the Dates - Origami World Marathon
Hi Bruno, yes, I found this page: https://www.origami-shop.com/en/registration-origami-world-marathon-august-2223-2020-xml-2658_2678-11874.html Best, Lorenzo On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 at 17:08, Bruno Ferraz wrote: > > What is the registration site? > origami shop? > > > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] JOAS magazines and contact
Hi everybody, does anyone know a JOAS representative's email address? Their web contact form seems not working (https://origami.jp/en/contact/), looping forever when submit. I'm going to order some back issues from JOAS, from 115 to 180. If anyone of you would lighten its shelves and sell some, just let me know ( lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com) Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] 3 small unknown HK books
Hi all, does anyone know something (author?) about those three small basic books? Their price is 3.5 HK$ each, so I suppose they are from China/HK. https://drive.google.com/open?id=12PEhR2TXKKfvSA3aisnm1zltnTVJ8vFU https://drive.google.com/open?id=12MNdhI7tCNsjsBJT5RMBAa5-diwSXF1U https://drive.google.com/open?id=12V5rOQgqoeiSY3gRhE7zIXzBXxox1NWP Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] Box Pleating book???
Hi Kate, Pasquale D'auria's "Voglia di Grigle" is a booklet published by CDO, which is mostly related to box pleating: http://www.origamidauria.it/2016/10/06/q-q-m-44-voglia-griglie/ You can get it becoming a CDO member (and having full access to the CDO downloads), or asking to Pasquale (I can do it for you, in Italian, if you need). Contact me privately, in case (lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com). >From Pasquale website: http://www.origamidauria.it/ (it is in Italian, you can translate it in english with google translate) you can also download two of his great booklets: http://www.origamidauria.it/scarigami/ I'm quite sure you will find a large amount of box pleated models. Best, Lorenzo On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 at 20:21, Kate Honeyman wrote: > I've not seen a primer book for box pleated modelsany recommendations > I've fought my way thru a few Manga, and some Clothing models. It would be > helpful to have a book like Ilan Garibi's Tesselations only about box > pleating. Is there such a thing? Kate > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] 'Ocean Origami' by Tu Tuan Nguyen
Hi community, does anyone own the 'Ocean Origami' book by Tu Tuan Nguyen (and would be willing to part with)? It is oop and I would have opportunity to own it and fold some from this book. Best, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] Recreating Yoshizawa's unpublished models
Hi all, Hi Robert, three years ago we shortly debated about Yoshizawa works and his thousands of models which were carefully preserved, boxed and hidden, by him. I'm wondering if something changed, since 2017. Does anyone know something about this topic? Best, Lorenzo On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 at 17:10, Robert J. Lang wrote: > Various good points made by Peter, Zack, and Diana. Let me add just a few > comments. > > Zack asks, “Would he really so carefully preserve them, and then desire to > keep them utterly unseen and unappreciated after his death, until they > rotted away?” I think the answer is clearly “no”, because he took great > care to fold his artwork from archival papers, and packed them carefully; > his intention was more likely that they would be appreciated, displayed, > and cared for and that they would NOT rot away. And no one I know of > suggests “the idea that he regarded these carefully preserved works as > things to be thrown away in the trash.” That’s a straw man argument. Rather > than intending that they be thrown away, he intended that they be preserved > forever in their original condition. And having seen the quality of his > artwork today that he’d folded 30 or more years ago, he’s likely to get his > wish. > > But his desire that his body of work be preserved and displayed is not the > same as desiring that others could fold approximations of them. In the > world of painting, an artist may want his or her artwork preserved and > displayed, but not want paint-by-number versions of them made available. > > We don’t know, and can’t possibly know, why Yoshizawa refrained from > diagramming his most impressive works. It could be, as Zack suggests, that > he wanted to keep some secrets (and I think that motivation probably played > something of a role). It could also be that he felt that even with > instructions, no one could fold those works as well as he could, and he > didn’t want to see poor folded versions of his children. > > Yoshizawa left his body of work to be managed by his widow, Mrs. Kiyo > Yoshizawa. Really, all that we know for sure about his wishes was that he > delegated to *her* how his legacy and artwork was to be handled. And I can > say from my limited experience via participating in the book “Akira > Yoshizawa: Japan’s Greatest Origami Master” ( > https://www.origamiusa.org/catalog/products/akira-yoshizawa ) she takes a > very active and firm role in determining what may or may not be done with > respect to his artwork. > > My participation was writing a foreword; in the foreword I described the > process of reverse-engineering his Cicada from a CP and step folds that he > sent to Gershon Legman back in the early 1960s, which were provided to me > by Laura Rozenberg, from the collection of her origami museum in Uruguay. > Reading between the lines of translated missives discussing the foreword > and my requests to her to show additional imagery, Mrs. Y did not seem > thrilled with the notion and vetoed some of the imagery I wanted to show, > but she didn’t outright kibosh the whole article. > > So, I rather doubt that she’d support x-raying and re-diagramming, but the > appropriate avenue to pursue that would be to ask her, and then abide by > her wishes. > > Robert > > > > -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Old Yoshizawa books
Dear origamists, does anyone know where can I find a (even partial) list, or some cover pictures, of old Yoshizawa japanese books, such as the one below? https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ygQyd1lBugdmosYj0GRd99H6LzDnimDr If you own some, could you please send me cover picture(s) (in private, of course, not to bother the list)? lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com Many thanks in advance, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
Re: [Origami] Old Momotani book(s) freely available in ...
Hi all, I agree with Laura, I strongly guess knowledge (in any form) need absolutely to get shared as much as possible. We have wars, all around the world, and it is because people is ignorant (yes, governs included - and yes, corporation's money avidity is a form of ignorance), people does not know the "beauty", but this is not a matter of discussion, here. SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY I would just point the stress on the fact that anyone who produce goods, art, something, has a specific duty: provide it to the people (which does NOT mean for free), and this is just because he is able to produce his "product" thanks, and only thanks, to his/her leaving in our society. I understand who complains about copyright violation, and I also think there is one thing you have to do, day by day, to be roughly sure to live in a proper (for the context/society) way: think to the future, ask youself how in twenty years our mindset/ideas/statements will survive or change. Copyright is going to disappear, signs of that increase. In my opinion, or better, for my feeling, strongly protecting copyright, today (not 20 years ago, but today) is a sort of slipping, sort of not looking outside and learning from the current time. It is absolutely important to be able to live with your art / intellectual production / whatelse (which is one of the highest form of contribution to this society: produce "beauty"), and I think the next method on how we can live thanks to our intellectual producs will be different than Copyright. I'm not enough farsighted to make hypothesis, but it has already started to change. Herei s an example of Social responsibility: I was recently in contact with De Gruyter, they are a 270 years old (!) academic publisher, and look to their sense of responsibility: -- https://www.degruyter.com The independent academic publisher *De Gruyter* can look back at a company history of 270 years. Today, the De Gruyter group publishes over 1,300 new titles each year in the humanities, social sciences, STM and law, more than 700 subscription based or Open Access journals, and a variety of digital products. ... CORPORATE SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY As a global scientific publishing house De Gruyter is committed to the widest distribution of its journals to non-profit institutions in developing countries. Through agreements with worldwide organizations we ensure that academic knowledge is accessible at greatly reduced or no cost. De Gruyter is delighted to be part of such initiatives that aim to increase dissemination opportunities for research produced in emerging nations and to bring this scholarly material to the global academic community. -- Best, Lorenzo On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 23:35, Laura R wrote: > This is a topic that has always interested me. In this case, I checked > that the book mentioned by Lorenzo in the previous email resides in > Archive.com <http://archive.com/>. > > This humongous website explains: “Because we are a library, we pay special > attention to books. Not everyone has access to a public or academic library > with a good collection, so to provide universal access we need to provide > digital versions of books. We began a program to digitize books in 2005 and > today we scan 1,000 books per day in 28 locations around the world. Books > published prior to 1923 are available for download, and hundreds of > thousands of modern books can be borrowed through our Open Library site. > Some of our digitized books are only available to the print disabled.” > > It is funded by the Andrew Mellon Foundation, Knight Foundation, National > Science Foundation, National Endowment for the Humanities, and many other > important institutions (see: https://archive.org/about/) > > We could consider their mission equal to any brick and mortar library with > the only difference that reaches out to people who, otherwise, would never > be able to access books. > > When a brick and mortar library receives a book and put it in their > shelves, it doesn’t go back to the author to request permission to lend it > to eventual readers. Public libraries are a precious asset for society. > > A book that resides in a virtual library is not a pirated book. However, > it could be pirated if it were available for download, but this is not the > case for the book mentioned in the previous email. > > But even if there were a minimal risk of pirating it (how? By > screenshooting? Not the best quality, for sure), the benefits of having it > for those who otherwise would not be able to get it, is, in my opinion, > worth do it. > > Remember, not everyone lives in New York, Paris or Hong Kong. There are > places like Misión Chaqueña, northern Argentina, where I just sent a bunch > of books to kids who live in the middle of nowhere and, yes, believe it or > not, they have internet conn
[Origami] Old Momotani book(s) freely available in ...
Dear all, I apologize if you already treated this specific topic (this specific website). I would bring to your attention the following site: https://archive.org/details/YoshihideMomotaniOrigamiVehiclesjapanese Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Looking for "Origami 6"
Hi all, I'm looking for Origami6, The proceedings from the 6th International Conference on Origami in Science, Mathematics, and Education. It is very expensive, then I would ask you any hints on where I could find it second-hand. Regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Wildenbruchstr. 47 40545 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] The Paper and Annual Collection issues
Hi I'm looking for some old OUSA publications. Already asked to them, those issues are no longer available. If any of you, OUSA member, would sell them, I'll be happy to buy them full price (plus postages of course) and contributes to OUSA with a fair donation. I'm looking for: The Paper 96, 97, 98, 100, 101, 118 Origami Collection 2005, 2006, 2007, 2010, 2011, 2014, 2015 Please feel free to forward this request to any OUSA member. I'm also going to the Israeli Convention in March, GErman Convention in June, BOS in September and in Italy in November. Hope to meet some of you. Best regards, Lorenzo -- Lorenzo Lucioni Columbusstr. 14 40549 Duesseldorf - DE +49.1525.9768654 lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com
[Origami] Tanteidan 15 Convention Book
Hi all, I'm looking for the Tanteidan 15 conv. book, new or second-hand, to buy. Would anyone sell it to me? In case, please write to lorenzo.luci...@gmail.com Best regards, Lorenzo
[Origami] 3D Origami
I've searched the list about this topic but no relevant results came up. I'd like to know what do you think about it. Lorenzo
[Origami] academia.edu
hello, could we suppose any interesting use, for origami community, of academia.edu service? https://www.academia.edu lorenzo
[Origami] Origami Books for sale
hello, I have some books currently by auction. They are mostly Italian and Japanese, out of print: http://www.ebay.com/sch/bidlory/m.html I also have some picture galleries about mags and books I have to sell, with some hard to find books such as ORU #2, Tanteidan Convention #2, VIVA! Origami... please take a look and let me know if you are interested in anything. mags: https://goo.gl/NMBXWw european books: https://goo.gl/OfXH9b japanese/korean/... books: https://goo.gl/Qg5jXO italian books https://goo.gl/HYyIow books in english https://goo.gl/EkmCgR thank you, lorenzo
Re: [Origami] origami books for sale
Hello, since last March I've not had opportunity to go through selling of these books (see below) with who of you replied, due to too much busy months. I've added some publications to the "mags" photo-gallery, some fo them, I think, very interesting, such as "Tanteidan Conv. Book #2", old BOS mags, old CDO Convention Books, old Russiam Mags... Please let me know if some of them sound interesting for you. Thank you, Lorenzo mags https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksMagazines?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCKufh-SI5KHKHA=directlink european books https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksEuropean?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCLbu6I-ynLv0dA=directlink japanese/korean/... books https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksJapaneseKorean?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCPikzP7vtMr_EA=directlink italian books https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksItalian?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCIq3sI-0vtKMhAE=directlink books in english https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksEnglish?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCM-xp6eJvf7H5AE=directlink ---- *From:* Lorenzo Lucioni <orig...@lucioni.it> *To:* origami <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> *Sent:* Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:40 AM *Subject:* [Origami] origami books for sale hello, my effort in make my shelf lighter I'm putting for sale some old origami books and magazines. let me know if you are interested in some. mags https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksMagazines?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCKufh-SI5KHKHA=directlink european books https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksEuropean?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCLbu6I-ynLv0dA=directlink japanese/korean/... books https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksJapaneseKorean?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCPikzP7vtMr_EA=directlink italian books https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksItalian?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCIq3sI-0vtKMhAE=directlink books in english https://picasaweb.google.com/114613268293082181814/OrigamiBooksEnglish?authuser=0=Gv1sRgCM-xp6eJvf7H5AE=directlink thank you, lorenzo
[Origami] origami publications by sell
Hello, here is my last origami publications by sell, from my origami library. thank you, lorenzo http://www.ebay.it/sch/Libri-e-Riviste-/267/m.html?_ssn=bidlory OSN 1989 #1-5 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 5... (271675475508) 1990 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675477086) 1991 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675477676) 1992 #1-8 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 8... (271675479600) 1993 #1-5 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 5... (271675481160) 1994 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675484034) 1995 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675484701) 1996 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675485631) 1997 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675486418) 1998 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675487385) 1999 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675488171) 2000 #1-6 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Nederland) - 6... (271675488833) 2005 #1-3, 2006 #4 OSN Magazines (Origami Societeit Neder... (271675490454) MAGYAR ORIGAMI 2000 Origami Convention Book in Kecskemet - Magyar Origam... (271676149901) 1998 Origami Convention Book in Kecskemet - Magyar Origam... (271676153890) 1999/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676156311) 1999/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676158161) 1999/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676159241) 1999/4 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676161467) RARE 1994/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676163006) RARE 1994/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676169058) RARE 1994/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676169382) RARE 1995/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676171046) RARE 1995/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676172388) RARE 1995/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676179308) RARE 1995/4 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676180309) RARE 1996/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676182117) RARE 1996/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676183197) RARE 1996/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676186881) RARE 1997/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676187063) RARE 1997/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (27167617) RARE 1997/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676191028) RARE 1997/4 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor (271676191457) RUSSIAN ORIGAMI Rare Russian Origami Magazines n.4-5 2000 and... (271680172531) AEP Pajarita #60, AEP Origami Magazine (271680186214) Pajarita #61, AEP Origami Magazine (271680187643) Pajarita #62, AEP Origami Magazine (271680190328) Pajarita #63, AEP Origami Magazine (ATTN: copies) (271680193646) Pajarita #64, AEP Origami Magazine (271680203684) ORIGAMI DEUTSCHLAND Der Falter Origami Magazines #0, #1, #2 - Origami Deutsch... (271680212665) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #3 - Origami Deutschland (271680215881) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #4 - Origami Deutschland (271680218455) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #5 - Origami Deutschlan... (271680220939) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #6 - Origami Deutschland (271680221573) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #7 - Origami Deutschland (271680225425) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #9 - Origami Deutschland (271680227310) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #10 - Origami Deutschla... (271680230122) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #11 - Origami Deutschland (271680232647) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #12 - Origami Deutschland (271680235781) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #13 - Origami Deutschland (271680236080) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #14 - Origami Deutschland (271680237764) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #15 - Origami Deutschland (271680239513) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #16 - Origami Deutschland (271680240864) RARE Der Falter Origami Magazines #17 - Origami Deutschland (271680242954)
[Origami] More Origami books from my collection (by sell)
Hi, due to some reasons, I'm here to sell some of my origami publications. ALL my origami books auctions here: http://www.ebay.it/sch/m.html?_ssn=bidlory I have recently added some old Magyar Origami Kor publications. thank you, lorenzo == DETAILED LIST == Magyar Origami Kor publications -- 2000 Origami Convention Book in Kecskemet - Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651493932 1998 Origami Convention Book in Kecskemet - Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651496965 1999/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651501654 1999/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651502807 1999/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651503567 1999/4 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651504236 RARE 1994/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651507399 RARE 1994/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651512760 RARE 1994/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651513442 RARE 1995/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651515188 RARE 1995/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651516485 RARE 1995/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651524417 RARE 1995/4 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651526187 RARE 1996/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651527282 RARE 1996/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651528929 RARE 1996/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651530728 RARE 1997/2 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651535519 RARE 1997/3 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651536683 RARE 1997/4 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651537783 RARE 1997/1 Origami Magazine, A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271651539413 Various Publications --- BARF, Bay Area Rapid Folder Origami Newsletter, Summer 2004 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271644926206 Horn Akos - A Magyar Origami Kor http://www.ebay.it/itm/271644933433 MATEMATICAS Y PAPIROFLEXIA - J. de la Pena Hernandez - AEP Origami http://www.ebay.it/itm/271650881018 NOA (Nippon Origami Association) publications -- Monthly Magazine, #123, 1985 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645349673 Monthly Magazine, #144, 1987 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645355308 Monthly Magazine, #161, 1989 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645363082 Monthly Magazine, #172, 1989 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645365596 Monthly Magazine, #181, 1990 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645368035 OSN (Origami Societeit Nederland) publications - Origami Publ. by H. van der Kruit - Kleine Blaadjes, Groo... http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645383726 Kusudama Festival, 1991 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645383867 UNIT-ORIGAMI, David Petty, 1991 http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645497333 Heerhugowaard 1990, Origami weekend http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645511854 Oridag Gelderland, Tiel 1992, Origami weekend http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645519267 RARE Hoogeveen 1985, Origami weekend http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645520437 RARE De Bilt 1986, Origami weekend http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645522378 RARE Nieuwegein 1987, Origami weekend http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645525583 RARE Lunteren 1991, Origami weekend http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645531839 RARE Veldhoven 1994, Origami weekend http://www.ebay.it/itm/271645533170
Re: [Origami] some origami books from my collection
Hi, due to some reasons I need to sell some of my Origami books. Here is my first, you'll get more later: - D PAPEL, VALENCIA 2006 - ORIGAMI - AEP Convention Book (271635781853) http://www.ebay.com/itm/271635781853 - MATEMATICAS Y PAPIROFLEXIA - J. de la Pena Hernandez - AE... (271636613549) http://www.ebay.com/itm/271636613549 - ORIGAMI Deutschland - Bonn 2003 Convention Book (271636621488) http://www.ebay.com/itm/271636621488 - BARF, Bay Area Rapid Folder Origami Newsletter, Summer 2004 (271638151945) http://www.ebay.com/itm/271638151945 - Horn Akos - A Magyar Origami Kor... (271638160566) http://www.ebay.com/itm/271638160566 - Budai Peter - A Magyar Origami Kor... 2009/3 (271638165509) http://www.ebay.com/itm/271638165509 - Sebok Zsolt - A Magyar Origami Kor... 2010/3 (271638169527) http://www.ebay.com/itm/271638169527 thank you, lorenzo
[Origami] some origami books from my collection
Hi, due to some reasons I need to sell some of my Origami books. Here is my first, you'll get more later: D PAPEL, VALENCIA 2006 - ORIGAMI - AEP Convention Book http://www.ebay.com/itm/271635781853 thank you, lorenzo
[Origami] IN ORIGAMI... little italian origami book
Hi, i'm trying to clean my book shelf off duplicate books and then: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=271142230047 thank you, lorenzo
