Re: [Origami] Simple, but Elegant, Models

2012-11-12 Thread Ronald Koh

On 10/11/2012 11:41 PM, Chris Lott wrote:
(snip) if only one sense of the term elegance is allowed, then 
anyone who doesn't know the folding sequence couldn't consider a 
finished model elegant. (snip) I see pieces of origami that are not 
just clean, but are elegant (which is more than merely having clean 
lines), and I have no real idea how they were folded.


I couldn't agree more with Chris.

The supposedly 'elegance' of a folding sequence will ultimately depend 
on the folder and the way he or she executes it.


Some people, particularly those on the wrong side of age and physical 
ability, whose approach and execution in origami can seem quite clunky, 
although the finished product is quite the opposite.


Ron



Re: [Origami] Simple, but Elegant, Models

2012-11-11 Thread Chris Lott
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Dave Mitchell dave.mitch...@virgin.net wrote:

 Outside origami 'elegant' is often used to mean 'clean' ... as in 'a chair
 has clean lines'. It doesn't matter how the chair was made. You are
 describing a quality of the finished result.


We're saying the same thing about definitions of elegance. The
difference is that I am interested in elegance of both kinds and,
unlike you, believe that both kinds of elegance are productively
applied to origami. I don't see elegance necessarily tied to the
process as you posit in mathematics any more than I see elegance tied
to the process of painting.

Because of that, I don't have a problem with the proposition of an
inelegant fold leading to an inelegant model (in the sense of the word
as a reference to the finished work of art, not the plan that led to
it).

c
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Chris Lott ch...@chrislott.org


Re: [Origami] Simple, but Elegant, Models

2012-10-30 Thread Chris Lott
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Dave Mitchell dave.mitch...@virgin.net wrote:

 This is, of course, the reason why you can't judge the elegance of a design
 without folding it yourself.

I don't see why this is true...we can judge the elegance of a chair or
a car or whatever without making it. Why not a piece of origami art?
Design has (at least) two senses... I'm talking in the sense that
the design of that car is elegant as differing from the design (as
in the blueprints/plans) are elegant.

Some design, at least in other fields, has a seamy underbelly :)

c
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Chris Lott ch...@chrislott.org


Re: [Origami] Simple, but Elegant, Models

2012-10-30 Thread Gareth Chen
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Malachi Brown malac...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Oct 30, 2012 11:00 AM, Chris Lott ch...@chrislott.org wrote:
 
  I definitely see many models that are elegant but difficult (or
  impossible for me) to fold. But I can't think of examples of the
  reverse...

 I can think of some modular units like this. The folding sequence can be
 elegant geometrically yet not yield a unit with good cohesion.

I would say that simplicity does not necessarily lead to elegance (a
lot of beginner models look a bit strange to me), and that complicated
models can have elegant folding sequences as well.


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Re: [Origami] Simple, but Elegant, Models

2012-10-29 Thread Gareth Chen
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Chris Lott ch...@chrislott.org wrote:

 What models are your favorite simple, elegant models?

 c
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 Chris Lott ch...@chrislott.org

In my opinion, Roman Diaz's Origami Essence has some of the most
elegant models I've seen. For example, the 3D models, like the
inflatable rabbit and the geometric bird I find to be especially cool.


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-- Gareth Chen


Re: [Origami] Simple yet elegant models

2012-10-29 Thread Anne LaVin
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Rosemary Browne
rosemary.brow...@gmail.com wrote:
 This model comes from Senbazurfrance.  It is called Poule de Paques.  I am
 sorry I cannot translate to French; however, I have folded this model many
 times and_I _have named it Classy Bird and refer to it as such to friends
 and students.

 Does anyone happen to know who the folder of this wonderful site might be
 and who created this, yes, simple yet elegant bird?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=Fx_50cgupcw

Google translate (and my blurry recollection of French) calls this
Easter Chicken or Easter Hen.

The senbazuru.fr website has it here:

  http://www.senbazuru.fr/files/715e32dc6dd4ee37f695563a0ad2c64a-83.php

and says pf it (my translation): This little hen created by Guillaume
Denis is very easy to make.  It would make a pretty Easter
decoration.

Nice-looking, simple model, indeed!

The Senbazuru website doesn't say (that I can find) who the author of
the site is, and they use us when talking about contacting, etc., so
it may be multiple people.  Perhaps one of our list members from the
area knows them, or they're on the list?

Anne


Re: [Origami] Simple yet elegant models

2012-10-29 Thread oritsuru68
Guillaume Denis is a long time member of the MFPP. 

Re: [Origami] Simple, but Elegant, Models

2012-10-29 Thread Leyla Torres
Chris Lott wrote:
 What models are your favorite simple, elegant models?

Here I list a few simple models I love:

1- Nun -Kasahara (One of my all-time favorites )
here is a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/latrenza/5673579808/

2- Heart - Ildikó Vass
http://www.origamispirit.com/?p=6970

3- Two-fold Santa  -Paula Versnick
http://www.origamispirit.com/?p=2464

4- Fly -Angel Ecija
http://www.origamispirit.com/?p=8694

5- Owl -Robert Neale
http://thebraid.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/taking-my-origami-train-to-new-york/

6- Ring-Star Robert Neale (My favorite simple modular)
http://origamiaday.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/origami-8-pointed-star.jpg

If you are on facebook, there is a group on simple origami you might
request to join:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/delightful.origami/
There have been three simple origami design events with the
participation of several good designers.

Please share with us your writings on simple origami!

Leyla


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