[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[saifuladli ismail]

saya setuju dengan cadangan dan saranan tersebut. siapa kah yang akan
membuat paper work tersebut. jika sudah ada atau belum kita(group osdc.my)
boleh beri input dan komen.

tq

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Dear guys/chix/mix
> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
> outflow.
>
> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
> OSDC.my to get that.
>
> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
> red1
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Cadangan akan dipanjangkan. :)

AJ,

The cloud need to be in Malaysia. GOM need to build one cloud that can
be share with public.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Hasanuddin Abu Bakar
 wrote:
>
> "Mirror OSCC already over utilize bandwidth for Mirror. Ubuntu and
> Fedora are the main culprit. Download from outsite Malaysia more than
> local traffic."
>
> Apa kata kalau restrict download dari Malaysia sahaja macam Russian buat?
>
>
>
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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Hasanuddin Abu Bakar]

"Mirror OSCC already over utilize bandwidth for Mirror. Ubuntu and
Fedora are the main culprit. Download from outsite Malaysia more than
local traffic."

Apa kata kalau restrict download dari Malaysia sahaja macam Russian buat?



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On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
 wrote:
>
> To spend 30 mil, question is how much the outflow that we really have
> for Sourceforce from local net. That the first million we need to
> spend. To know about it. :)
>
> We dont want mirror sourceforge will make Malaysia Internet line
> overflow with International traffic. Another problem to think about.
>
> Mirror OSCC already over utilize bandwidth for Mirror. Ubuntu and
> Fedora are the main culprit. Download from outsite Malaysia more than
> local traffic.
>
> Let propose different way. 30 mil to create one central cloud service
> for Malaysia OSS community to work with and link together.
>
> Move Adempire in the cloud and create training env around it for this
> community to learn to used SVN GIT Track and contribute.
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:
>>
>> Dear guys/chix/mix
>> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
>> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
>> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
>> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
>> outflow.
>>
>> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
>> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
>> OSDC.my to get that.
>>
>> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
>> red1
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[A Johan]

personally i feel cloud services mcm amazon will be a big plus for local
developers

aj

2009/10/24 Raja Iskandar Shah 

> thanks kamal. git looks very promising.
>
> in the case of krimnet, currently we have development spread over 5
> locations (1 in terengganu, 1 in cyberjaya, 1 in sri kembangan, 2 in
> putrajaya). with sf the connection memang teruk.
>
> will test out git on github and google code and launchpad. kalau sempat,
> saya akan cuba blog about it.
>
> untuk penerangan ringkas mengenai git :
>
> http://www.notgeeklycorrect.com/english/2008/10/01/nbgit-the-git-plugin-for-netbeans/
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Kamal Fariz wrote:
>
>> Why waste any money at all? There are providers out there which provide
>> spectacular service like GitHub and BitBucket.
>>
>> And with distributed source control like git, you continue to commit
>> locally until a time you have a decent connection to push to remote. So
>> having local servers are a moot point.
>>
>>
>> Kamal
>>
>> On 24-Oct-2009, at 7:18 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah 
>> wrote:
>>
>> thanks guys for the info. kami budak baru belajar.
>>
>> if sf restricts commit hanya kepada master server - saya cadangkan kita
>> tak perlu buang masa dgn sourceforge mirror.
>>
>> kita buat sendiri a distributed code hosting macam cadangan azrul. one of
>> my team says his previous employer spent rm3 million to setup and operate 6
>> servers across the world.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, red1 < r...@red1.org>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote:
>>> > I propose, in tandem with a code repository (BTW, a github clone is in
>>> > my opinion way better than SF. I have seen some pretty nasty SVN merge
>>> > problems ) a Google AppEngine like cloud computing facility free for
>>> > opensource project from OSDC.my members (basic package) and payable
>>> > for anyone else.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Azrul
>>>
>>> i seen GIT mode in SF.. but lack the skill to set it up. No time too. If
>>> anyone already knows how and can do it and teach our community that be
>>> great.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

thanks kamal. git looks very promising.

in the case of krimnet, currently we have development spread over 5
locations (1 in terengganu, 1 in cyberjaya, 1 in sri kembangan, 2 in
putrajaya). with sf the connection memang teruk.

will test out git on github and google code and launchpad. kalau sempat,
saya akan cuba blog about it.

untuk penerangan ringkas mengenai git :
http://www.notgeeklycorrect.com/english/2008/10/01/nbgit-the-git-plugin-for-netbeans/




On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Kamal Fariz  wrote:

> Why waste any money at all? There are providers out there which provide
> spectacular service like GitHub and BitBucket.
>
> And with distributed source control like git, you continue to commit
> locally until a time you have a decent connection to push to remote. So
> having local servers are a moot point.
>
>
> Kamal
>
> On 24-Oct-2009, at 7:18 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah 
> wrote:
>
> thanks guys for the info. kami budak baru belajar.
>
> if sf restricts commit hanya kepada master server - saya cadangkan kita tak
> perlu buang masa dgn sourceforge mirror.
>
> kita buat sendiri a distributed code hosting macam cadangan azrul. one of
> my team says his previous employer spent rm3 million to setup and operate 6
> servers across the world.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, red1 < r...@red1.org>wrote:
>
>>
>> Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote:
>> > I propose, in tandem with a code repository (BTW, a github clone is in
>> > my opinion way better than SF. I have seen some pretty nasty SVN merge
>> > problems ) a Google AppEngine like cloud computing facility free for
>> > opensource project from OSDC.my members (basic package) and payable
>> > for anyone else.
>> >
>> >
>> > Azrul
>>
>> i seen GIT mode in SF.. but lack the skill to set it up. No time too. If
>> anyone already knows how and can do it and teach our community that be
>> great.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> >
>
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

Reasons? So it will be noted by agency planning this. Public opinions
are highly value in this list.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:52 AM, E A Faisal  wrote:
> Im more incline to agree with having central cloud service.
>
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel
>  wrote:
>>
>> local traffic.
>>
>> Let propose different way. 30 mil to create one central cloud service
>> for Malaysia OSS community to work with and link together.
>>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[E A Faisal]

Im more incline to agree with having central cloud service.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Harisfazillah Jamel <
linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> local traffic.
>
> Let propose different way. 30 mil to create one central cloud service
> for Malaysia OSS community to work with and link together.
>
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Harisfazillah Jamel]

To spend 30 mil, question is how much the outflow that we really have
for Sourceforce from local net. That the first million we need to
spend. To know about it. :)

We dont want mirror sourceforge will make Malaysia Internet line
overflow with International traffic. Another problem to think about.

Mirror OSCC already over utilize bandwidth for Mirror. Ubuntu and
Fedora are the main culprit. Download from outsite Malaysia more than
local traffic.

Let propose different way. 30 mil to create one central cloud service
for Malaysia OSS community to work with and link together.

Move Adempire in the cloud and create training env around it for this
community to learn to used SVN GIT Track and contribute.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:
>
> Dear guys/chix/mix
> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
> outflow.
>
> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
> OSDC.my to get that.
>
> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
> red1
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Kamal Fariz]

Why waste any money at all? There are providers out there which provide
spectacular service like GitHub and BitBucket.

And with distributed source control like git, you continue to commit locally
until a time you have a decent connection to push to remote. So having local
servers are a moot point.


Kamal

On 24-Oct-2009, at 7:18 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah 
wrote:

thanks guys for the info. kami budak baru belajar.

if sf restricts commit hanya kepada master server - saya cadangkan kita tak
perlu buang masa dgn sourceforge mirror.

kita buat sendiri a distributed code hosting macam cadangan azrul. one of my
team says his previous employer spent rm3 million to setup and operate 6
servers across the world.





On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote:
> > I propose, in tandem with a code repository (BTW, a github clone is in
> > my opinion way better than SF. I have seen some pretty nasty SVN merge
> > problems ) a Google AppEngine like cloud computing facility free for
> > opensource project from OSDC.my members (basic package) and payable
> > for anyone else.
> >
> >
> > Azrul
>
> i seen GIT mode in SF.. but lack the skill to set it up. No time too. If
> anyone already knows how and can do it and teach our community that be
> great.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

thanks guys for the info. kami budak baru belajar.

if sf restricts commit hanya kepada master server - saya cadangkan kita tak
perlu buang masa dgn sourceforge mirror.

kita buat sendiri a distributed code hosting macam cadangan azrul. one of my
team says his previous employer spent rm3 million to setup and operate 6
servers across the world.





On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote:
> > I propose, in tandem with a code repository (BTW, a github clone is in
> > my opinion way better than SF. I have seen some pretty nasty SVN merge
> > problems ) a Google AppEngine like cloud computing facility free for
> > opensource project from OSDC.my members (basic package) and payable
> > for anyone else.
> >
> >
> > Azrul
>
> i seen GIT mode in SF.. but lack the skill to set it up. No time too. If
> anyone already knows how and can do it and teach our community that be
> great.
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[red1]

Azrul Hasni MADISA wrote:
> I propose, in tandem with a code repository (BTW, a github clone is in 
> my opinion way better than SF. I have seen some pretty nasty SVN merge 
> problems ) a Google AppEngine like cloud computing facility free for 
> opensource project from OSDC.my members (basic package) and payable 
> for anyone else.
>
>
> Azrul

i seen GIT mode in SF.. but lack the skill to set it up. No time too. If 
anyone already knows how and can do it and teach our community that be 
great.



 

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Azrul Hasni MADISA]

I propose, in tandem with a code repository (BTW, a github clone is in my
opinion way better than SF. I have seen some pretty nasty SVN merge problems
) a Google AppEngine like cloud computing facility free for opensource
project from OSDC.my members (basic package) and payable for anyone else.


Azrul

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah <
rajaiskand...@gmail.com> wrote:

> sangat setuju... sebab nak svn ke sourceforge lembab gila.
> dari putrajaya campus network (pcn) almost impossible - php files, bukan
> besar pun.
>
> dan syarat paling penting ialah bila commit to the local mirror, this gets
> replicated to all other sourceforge mirrors in the world.
>
> saya dah on the verge to move our subversion ke google code - sebab
> distributed servers gives stable web services.
>
> ultimate aim is to include our software in the ubuntu and fedora and centos
> packages.
>
> rm30 million is just enough to produce 100 world class developers over 5
> years. kalau setakat rm10 million sure fail, dan kalau rm20 million only if
> we are very very very lucky dapat the right people first time (5%
> probability). but if you want a world class centre then rm30 million is the
> minimum that is required.
>
> reference case study : gsk global it hub in pj total investment value rm70
> million
>
> “We recognise where Glaxo’s business is growing rapidly,” Louv said, adding
> that the company had so far invested over RM11mil in the new centre and
> employed 130 people. He said it planned to invest another RM60mil in the
> centre over the next two years."
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Mohd Fadzil Md Arap wrote:
>
>> Yes .. setuju-ed :) From community to community.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear guys/chix/mix
>>> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
>>> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
>>> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
>>> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
>>> outflow.
>>>
>>> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
>>> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
>>> OSDC.my to get that.
>>>
>>> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
>>> red1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Sharuzzaman Ahmat Raslan]

Sourceforge code hosting tidak berfungsi sebegini.

SVN/Git hosting berada dalam master server. Yang ada kat mirror
hanyalah downloadable software sahaja (source dalam bentuk tar.gz,
binary dalam bentuk exe)

Untuk commit SVN/Git mesti commit ke master server.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah
 wrote:
> sangat setuju... sebab nak svn ke sourceforge lembab gila.
> dari putrajaya campus network (pcn) almost impossible - php files, bukan
> besar pun.
> dan syarat paling penting ialah bila commit to the local mirror, this gets
> replicated to all other sourceforge mirrors in the world.
> saya dah on the verge to move our subversion ke google code - sebab
> distributed servers gives stable web services.
> ultimate aim is to include our software in the ubuntu and fedora and centos
> packages.
>
> rm30 million is just enough to produce 100 world class developers over 5
> years. kalau setakat rm10 million sure fail, dan kalau rm20 million only if
> we are very very very lucky dapat the right people first time (5%
> probability). but if you want a world class centre then rm30 million is the
> minimum that is required.
> reference case study : gsk global it hub in pj total investment value rm70
> million
>
> “We recognise where Glaxo’s business is growing rapidly,” Louv said, adding
> that the company had so far invested over RM11mil in the new centre and
> employed 130 people. He said it planned to invest another RM60mil in the
> centre over the next two years."
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Mohd Fadzil Md Arap 
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes .. setuju-ed :) From community to community.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear guys/chix/mix
>>> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
>>> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
>>> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
>>> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
>>> outflow.
>>>
>>> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
>>> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
>>> OSDC.my to get that.
>>>
>>> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
>>> red1
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>



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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Raja Iskandar Shah]

sangat setuju... sebab nak svn ke sourceforge lembab gila.
dari putrajaya campus network (pcn) almost impossible - php files, bukan
besar pun.

dan syarat paling penting ialah bila commit to the local mirror, this gets
replicated to all other sourceforge mirrors in the world.

saya dah on the verge to move our subversion ke google code - sebab
distributed servers gives stable web services.

ultimate aim is to include our software in the ubuntu and fedora and centos
packages.

rm30 million is just enough to produce 100 world class developers over 5
years. kalau setakat rm10 million sure fail, dan kalau rm20 million only if
we are very very very lucky dapat the right people first time (5%
probability). but if you want a world class centre then rm30 million is the
minimum that is required.

reference case study : gsk global it hub in pj total investment value rm70
million

“We recognise where Glaxo’s business is growing rapidly,” Louv said, adding
that the company had so far invested over RM11mil in the new centre and
employed 130 people. He said it planned to invest another RM60mil in the
centre over the next two years."




On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Mohd Fadzil Md Arap wrote:

> Yes .. setuju-ed :) From community to community.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear guys/chix/mix
>> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
>> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
>> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
>> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
>> outflow.
>>
>> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
>> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
>> OSDC.my to get that.
>>
>> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
>> red1
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[osdcmy-public] Re: OSDC to host SourceForge Mirror Site

[Mohd Fadzil Md Arap]

Yes .. setuju-ed :) From community to community.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:10 AM, red1  wrote:

>
> Dear guys/chix/mix
> Whether we like it or not, the path to world dominance has to pass thru
> some giants. Either you take it from Google's ass or MS armpit, or
> strike out with a friendly repository. Thus we have to have the mirror
> for ourselves. It is also part of the govt MCMC plan to reduce traffic
> outflow.
>
> So Baim and me here in the room next to the pantry of the building
> across MDec has decided to go ahead and propose a RM30m masterplan under
> OSDC.my to get that.
>
> WDYT? <- what do you think? Setuju/No Setuju
> red1
>
> >
>

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