Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
Hello Jan, Just exactly what makes COLLADA a better data format? OSG has a native format and a runtime. COLLADA does not seem to have a runtime. Oh and what are the ones that you left out (...). John F. Richardson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Ciger Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 2:31 PM To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John F. Richardson wrote: Hello Jan, Thanks for the correction. What is the recommended method for loading VRML97 and X3D files...without translation to another format before import. VRML should work quite OK with the existing plugin. However, it will load only the meshes, textures and few simple primitives, e.g. at the level as exported by 3DS Max. It was intended as a stop gap solution for loading old assets while migrating away from VRML to a better data format (osg, Collada, ... ) when the Coin3D plugin stopped working properly. It is *not* and was not intended to be a full VRML loader/viewer. That would be a huge task and some of the VRML features do not have a meaningful mapping to OSG (protos, scripts, interaction, etc.) Regarding X3D I do not know - I have never used that. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJPaAen11XseNj94gRAgDLAKDR7KHrVZCSrGA0LDwrzGfHDgoO9gCgpG4s 1oKLZNBaWWGLEk0/nVVHIwc= =wWWM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
Hello Jan, Thanks for the correction. What is the recommended method for loading VRML97 and X3D files...without translation to another format before import. John F. Richardson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Ciger Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:16 PM To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John F. Richardson wrote: Hello, Your version is outdated. Here is an announcement on the latest version from the openvrml mailing list. OpenVRML 0.17.9 is now available. The distribution can be obtained from Hello, The OpenVRML plugin will not build with anything later than 0.14.3 due to changed API and dependency on Boost. This is intentional. Upgrading to 0.17.9 will *not* help. The compilation issues with 0.14.3 are described here (minor updates for modern compilers): http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Support/PlatformSpecifics/Li nux It is described for Linux, but that patch should make OpenVRML compile fine. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJOGSkn11XseNj94gRAusxAJ96ZatpgKjQK0YROtV32oHb2koVugCg7fZq P17ecXWiDA2OAyXC0Ljp+fk= =IRoo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John F. Richardson wrote: Hello Jan, Thanks for the correction. What is the recommended method for loading VRML97 and X3D files...without translation to another format before import. VRML should work quite OK with the existing plugin. However, it will load only the meshes, textures and few simple primitives, e.g. at the level as exported by 3DS Max. It was intended as a stop gap solution for loading old assets while migrating away from VRML to a better data format (osg, Collada, ... ) when the Coin3D plugin stopped working properly. It is *not* and was not intended to be a full VRML loader/viewer. That would be a huge task and some of the VRML features do not have a meaningful mapping to OSG (protos, scripts, interaction, etc.) Regarding X3D I do not know - I have never used that. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJPaAen11XseNj94gRAgDLAKDR7KHrVZCSrGA0LDwrzGfHDgoO9gCgpG4s 1oKLZNBaWWGLEk0/nVVHIwc= =wWWM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
Thanks for the tip, I'll try this patch today and let you know if it works for Windows. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Jan Ciger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John F. Richardson wrote: Hello, Your version is outdated. Here is an announcement on the latest version from the openvrml mailing list. OpenVRML 0.17.9 is now available. The distribution can be obtained from Hello, The OpenVRML plugin will not build with anything later than 0.14.3 due to changed API and dependency on Boost. This is intentional. Upgrading to 0.17.9 will *not* help. The compilation issues with 0.14.3 are described here (minor updates for modern compilers): http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Support/PlatformSpecifics/Linux It is described for Linux, but that patch should make OpenVRML compile fine. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJOGSkn11XseNj94gRAusxAJ96ZatpgKjQK0YROtV32oHb2koVugCg7fZq P17ecXWiDA2OAyXC0Ljp+fk= =IRoo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
I tried the patch but it doesn't work for Visual Studio. Anyone have an idea on how to transform a method declaration like that : float (operator[](size_t index) throw ())[4]; In something similar but VS compliant ? On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Serge Lages [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tip, I'll try this patch today and let you know if it works for Windows. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Jan Ciger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John F. Richardson wrote: Hello, Your version is outdated. Here is an announcement on the latest version from the openvrml mailing list. OpenVRML 0.17.9 is now available. The distribution can be obtained from Hello, The OpenVRML plugin will not build with anything later than 0.14.3 due to changed API and dependency on Boost. This is intentional. Upgrading to 0.17.9 will *not* help. The compilation issues with 0.14.3 are described here (minor updates for modern compilers): http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Support/PlatformSpecifics/Linux It is described for Linux, but that patch should make OpenVRML compile fine. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJOGSkn11XseNj94gRAusxAJ96ZatpgKjQK0YROtV32oHb2koVugCg7fZq P17ecXWiDA2OAyXC0Ljp+fk= =IRoo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
2008/12/5 Serge Lages [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tried the patch but it doesn't work for Visual Studio. Anyone have an idea on how to transform a method declaration like that : float (operator[](size_t index) throw ())[4]; In something similar but VS compliant ? If you are trying to get a pointer to member function you need the class name in front of operator eg float (AClass::operator[](size_t index) throw())[4]; VC7.1 compiles that, but later versions are more standards compliant. -- The truth is out there. Usually in header files. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
I've made it build by adding const to the size_t parameter, don't ask me why it works like that... So I've managed to build OpenVRML, I am currently building OSG with the VRML plugin, if everything work, I'll post a patch for the OpenVRML sources. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Simon Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/12/5 Serge Lages [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tried the patch but it doesn't work for Visual Studio. Anyone have an idea on how to transform a method declaration like that : float (operator[](size_t index) throw ())[4]; In something similar but VS compliant ? If you are trying to get a pointer to member function you need the class name in front of operator eg float (AClass::operator[](size_t index) throw())[4]; VC7.1 compiles that, but later versions are more standards compliant. -- The truth is out there. Usually in header files. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
Success, I have a working VRML plugin ! :) Attached is a patch to be able to build OpenVRML 0.14.3 with Visual Studio 2005, feel free to add it to the Wiki if needed. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Serge Lages [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've made it build by adding const to the size_t parameter, don't ask me why it works like that... So I've managed to build OpenVRML, I am currently building OSG with the VRML plugin, if everything work, I'll post a patch for the OpenVRML sources. On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Simon Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 2008/12/5 Serge Lages [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I tried the patch but it doesn't work for Visual Studio. Anyone have an idea on how to transform a method declaration like that : float (operator[](size_t index) throw ())[4]; In something similar but VS compliant ? If you are trying to get a pointer to member function you need the class name in front of operator eg float (AClass::operator[](size_t index) throw())[4]; VC7.1 compiles that, but later versions are more standards compliant. -- The truth is out there. Usually in header files. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com openvrml-vs8.patch Description: Binary data ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Serge Lages wrote: Success, I have a working VRML plugin ! :) Attached is a patch to be able to build OpenVRML 0.14.3 with Visual Studio 2005, feel free to add it to the Wiki if needed. You can do that yourself, use the 'osg' login. It would be good if you could describe the changed required - the OpenVRML questions do pop up fairly frequently and there is a page dedicated to the plugin on Windows already. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJObBBn11XseNj94gRAsPgAKC+DV7y4uAL2n7txUwEQyjr7QHx2wCcDJRG 5H6uuzkqZe2hrVM54NmHohs= =F3Ru -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
Hello, Your version is outdated. Here is an announcement on the latest version from the openvrml mailing list. OpenVRML 0.17.9 is now available. The distribution can be obtained from http://downloads.sourceforge.net/openvrml/openvrml-0.17.9.tar.gz OpenVRML is a C++ runtime library for VRML97 and X3D worlds. It is capable of reading and displaying VRML/X3D; it can be used for creating loaders, file converters, and VRML/X3D browsers. OpenVRML includes an out-of-process viewer component for use in X11 environments along with hosts for this component in the form of a Mozilla browser plug-in and a stand-alone player. You can find OpenVRML on the Web at http://openvrml.org http://openvrml.org/ New in OpenVRML 0.17.9: -Use D-Bus for communication with the OpenVRML XEmbed control. John F. Richardson _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Serge Lages Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 5:40 AM To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows Hi all, I am currently trying to build the OSG VRML plugin under Windows, so I've downloaded the 0.14.3 version of OpenVRML and tried to build it with VS8 SP1, and it's a real pain... :/ Maybe I've missed something but this version really seems to be broken with modern compilers. That's why I would like to know if anyone already have a compiled version of this lib (build with VS8 SP1) ? Or at least a modified version of the sources which build fine ? Thanks for your help ! -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John F. Richardson wrote: Hello, Your version is outdated. Here is an announcement on the latest version from the openvrml mailing list. OpenVRML 0.17.9 is now available. The distribution can be obtained from Hello, The OpenVRML plugin will not build with anything later than 0.14.3 due to changed API and dependency on Boost. This is intentional. Upgrading to 0.17.9 will *not* help. The compilation issues with 0.14.3 are described here (minor updates for modern compilers): http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/Support/PlatformSpecifics/Linux It is described for Linux, but that patch should make OpenVRML compile fine. Regards, Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mandriva - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJOGSkn11XseNj94gRAusxAJ96ZatpgKjQK0YROtV32oHb2koVugCg7fZq P17ecXWiDA2OAyXC0Ljp+fk= =IRoo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
[osg-users] OpenVRML and Windows
Hi all, I am currently trying to build the OSG VRML plugin under Windows, so I've downloaded the 0.14.3 version of OpenVRML and tried to build it with VS8 SP1, and it's a real pain... :/ Maybe I've missed something but this version really seems to be broken with modern compilers. That's why I would like to know if anyone already have a compiled version of this lib (build with VS8 SP1) ? Or at least a modified version of the sources which build fine ? Thanks for your help ! -- Serge Lages http://www.tharsis-software.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
