Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-12 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay

Hi Robert,


Argg gotta love Dreamhost...  this used to work...


Any progress? I notice osgforge.org still gives an error...

J-S
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Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-12 Thread Robert Osfield
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay
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  Any progress? I notice osgforge.org still gives an error...

I haven't had a chance to chase this up.  I really have been over
swamped by support work this past week, I *have* to give it break and
get on with other work.

Robert.
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[osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-07 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay

Hello Robert et al,

First of all, an announcement: I have finished my Masters. My thesis was 
accepted unanimously and apart from some small corrections, the comments 
were good. I'm happy! :-)


I was thinking of publishing my Masters project under the OSGPL. It's an 
interesting program (at least I think so) that combines basic 
Precomputed Radiance Transfer [Sloan2002] and a modified Shading Cache 
[Tole2002] using OSG for realtime rendering as well as Adian Egli's 
generously contributed kdtree for raytracing.


You have often spoken of an osgForge site that you wanted to set up and 
which would allow hosting of different OSG-related projects. Will that 
site see the light of day anytime soon? It would be a nice place where 
my project could live and others could contribute to it if they find it 
useful. And in a more general sense, I think it would be very cool to 
group all the cool projects that people want to make available to 
others, and it would encourage others to use them and contribute to them 
as was done with OSG itself, but on a smaller and even more distributed 
scale.


Otherwise I can always make a googlecode project or something, or even 
just open up my local SVN for read-only access, but I'd prefer to host 
it somewhere where potential problems with my own computer 
infrastructure would not affect it, and an osgForge would provide some 
nice visibility too. :-)


If I can help make osgForge a reality, let me know.

Thanks,

J-S

[Sloan2002] Peter-Pike Sloan, Jan Kautz and John Snyder  Precomputed 
Radiance Transfer for Real-Time Rendering in Dynamic, Low-Frequency 
Lighting Environments


[Tole2002] Parag Tole, Fabio Pellacini, Bruce Walter and Donald P. 
Greenberg  Interactive Global Illumination in Dynamic Scenes

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Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-07 Thread Jeremy Moles

On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 10:07 -0400, Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote:
 Hello Robert et al,
 
 First of all, an announcement: I have finished my Masters. My thesis was 
 accepted unanimously and apart from some small corrections, the comments 
 were good. I'm happy! :-)

Congratulations!

 I was thinking of publishing my Masters project under the OSGPL. It's an 
 interesting program (at least I think so) that combines basic 
 Precomputed Radiance Transfer [Sloan2002] and a modified Shading Cache 
 [Tole2002] using OSG for realtime rendering as well as Adian Egli's 
 generously contributed kdtree for raytracing.
 
 You have often spoken of an osgForge site that you wanted to set up and 
 which would allow hosting of different OSG-related projects. Will that 
 site see the light of day anytime soon? It would be a nice place where 
 my project could live and others could contribute to it if they find it 
 useful. And in a more general sense, I think it would be very cool to 
 group all the cool projects that people want to make available to 
 others, and it would encourage others to use them and contribute to them 
 as was done with OSG itself, but on a smaller and even more distributed 
 scale.
 
 Otherwise I can always make a googlecode project or something, or even 
 just open up my local SVN for read-only access, but I'd prefer to host 
 it somewhere where potential problems with my own computer 
 infrastructure would not affect it, and an osgForge would provide some 
 nice visibility too. :-)

Don't be afraid of googlecode--it's quite awesome...

 If I can help make osgForge a reality, let me know.
 
 Thanks,
 
 J-S
 
 [Sloan2002] Peter-Pike Sloan, Jan Kautz and John Snyder  Precomputed 
 Radiance Transfer for Real-Time Rendering in Dynamic, Low-Frequency 
 Lighting Environments
 
 [Tole2002] Parag Tole, Fabio Pellacini, Bruce Walter and Donald P. 
 Greenberg  Interactive Global Illumination in Dynamic Scenes

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Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-07 Thread Cedric Pinson

Hi,
If it can helps i have space on my server, so if someone wants to start 
something i can share my place, instanciate a vserver osgForge. If one 
is interested he can send me a ssh key and i will provide the space and 
a fresh linux distrib ready to use.


   Cedric

Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote:

Hi Jeremy,


Congratulations!


Thanks!


Don't be afraid of googlecode--it's quite awesome...


I'm sure it is, but if there's going to be an osgForge it would make 
sense for it to be hosted there. I can always put it on googlecode and 
move it when/if osgForge gets set up.


J-S


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Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-07 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay

Hi Cedric,

If it can helps i have space on my server, so if someone wants to start 
something i can share my place, instanciate a vserver osgForge. If one 
is interested he can send me a ssh key and i will provide the space and 
a fresh linux distrib ready to use.


I was actually asking the question assuming some steps had already been 
taken.


If that is not the case, we'll need to make and manage a server 
ourselves, and your offer would be interesting. Is your server at your 
home, or is it a bit more organized than that? I'm thinking a bare 
minimum would be a UPS, and perhaps some site monitoring to ensure a 
certain uptime. What do you think? If it's a personal server, I think it 
would not be a good idea to start osgForge there because we couldn't 
guarantee that it would be always accessible...


The other part of the equation is the software to manage the projects 
and such. Tracs would be one option, and I think SourceForge's software 
infrastructure is open source as well? What do people think?


And finally, who would manage the site? I can help setting it up, but I 
don't think I could do the day-to-day creation of accounts and projects, 
making sure everything works, updating software, etc.


But before we go too far on this route, I'd like to know what Robert 
thinks. Was anything started on this? What were your plans?


Thanks,

J-S
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Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-07 Thread Cedric Pinson
No it's not a machine in my house :) it's a dedicated server where i use 
vserver for me and for other people, i dont provide tool to monitor, i 
just provide a vserver on a dedibox (http://www.dedibox.fr/) then you do 
what you want on it. You install what you want on it (linux of course)
If it does not fit with what you have in mind, i understand, i just 
propose that if someone want to start and he is stopped by this point.


Cheers
   Cedric

Jean-Sébastien Guay wrote:

Hi Cedric,

If it can helps i have space on my server, so if someone wants to 
start something i can share my place, instanciate a vserver osgForge. 
If one is interested he can send me a ssh key and i will provide the 
space and a fresh linux distrib ready to use.


I was actually asking the question assuming some steps had already 
been taken.


If that is not the case, we'll need to make and manage a server 
ourselves, and your offer would be interesting. Is your server at your 
home, or is it a bit more organized than that? I'm thinking a bare 
minimum would be a UPS, and perhaps some site monitoring to ensure a 
certain uptime. What do you think? If it's a personal server, I think 
it would not be a good idea to start osgForge there because we 
couldn't guarantee that it would be always accessible...


The other part of the equation is the software to manage the projects 
and such. Tracs would be one option, and I think SourceForge's 
software infrastructure is open source as well? What do people think?


And finally, who would manage the site? I can help setting it up, but 
I don't think I could do the day-to-day creation of accounts and 
projects, making sure everything works, updating software, etc.


But before we go too far on this route, I'd like to know what Robert 
thinks. Was anything started on this? What were your plans?


Thanks,

J-S


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Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-07 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay

Hi Robert,


Congrats on completing the Master.


Thanks!


W.r.t osgforge, this is already up and running - VirtualPlanetBuilder,
osgProducer and Present3D are the two projects of mine that are
hosted, osgLua, osgPython, osgDotNet are others.


What's the URL? osgforge.org gives me:
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Domain Cloaking Error
We're sorry, we had a problem with our web panel when you set up 
cloaking for your domain osgforge.org!
Please go to the DreamHost Web Panel's Domains  Manage Domains area and 
click the [Edit] link next to osgforge.org to re-configure cloaking.


Error: no domain www.osgforge.org or osgforge.org; if you recently set 
this up, please wait up to one hour.

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We'll need to the thumbs from UPV that its OK to host the projects as
it'll be on their server (the same one that runs openscenegraph.org +
SVN).  Jose Luis Hidalgo our server admin will need to set up the
Tracs/SVN for you, we'll need to ping Jose to ask about this.


Ok, will do (when I'm ready to do it).

What is the long-term vision for this? I think if we want this to become 
a useful community site, we should have automated tools for high-level 
project management, for example:


1. A person makes a request for a new project by filling in a web-based 
form.
2. The site manager approves the request (one click of a button, perhaps 
making sure the project name is valid and follows some rules) and then 
automated scripts create the Tracs site, SVN repo, etc.


Also, what kind of access do we have? Does someone who registers a 
project at osgForge have shell access to the part of the server relevant 
to his project? Can we register SVN pre/post-commit hooks? Can we change 
the skin on the Tracs site? :-)


Finally, are there regular backups?

Thanks,

J-S
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Re: [osg-users] osgForge: what's the status?

2008-05-07 Thread Robert Osfield
Hi J-S,

On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Jean-Sébastien Guay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What's the URL? osgforge.org gives me:
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  Domain Cloaking Error
  We're sorry, we had a problem with our web panel when you set up cloaking
 for your domain osgforge.org!
  Please go to the DreamHost Web Panel's Domains  Manage Domains area and
 click the [Edit] link next to osgforge.org to re-configure cloaking.

  Error: no domain www.osgforge.org or osgforge.org; if you recently set this
 up, please wait up to one hour.
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Argg gotta love Dreamhost...  this used to work...

Robert.
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