Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-08 Thread Adrian Egli OpenSceneGraph (3D)
Hi
any demo / example ?

regards
2008/4/3, Mike Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Colin,

Success! Using the later version of VDIG that you referenced, I was
 able to get a live stream to work with osgmovie.
 I'm using a KOCOM camera running video through a Canopus ADVC 110 A/D
 video convertor into a firewire cable.
 This is on Windows XP, OSG 2.3.5, Visual Studio 2005 debug, Quicktime
 SDK 7.3.


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Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-08 Thread Colin Dunlop
Hi Adrian,

I've not documented anything on the wiki yet but below is how
the result was achieved on Windows XP. See my previous post for
any more detail. The demo/example is really just a quad with
your live feed playing - so a I've just tweaked osgmovie here
to force load the plug-in from a .live association and then
interpret the file basename to get a device and input ID -
ugly but working...

0. If you have NO QuickTime driver for your device then install
http://www.abstractplane.com/products/vdig.jsp
Use the latest version and do the manual install from the zip.
You will jave to live with the demo mode or fork out some $$$.
If your capture device has a QuickTime driver then you do not
need this VDIG for Windows thing eg BlackMagic Intensity Pro.

1. Modify the osgmovie.cpp and make sure that the .live
extension is associated with the osgdb_qt plugin:

osgDB::Registry::instance()-addFileExtensionAlias(live,qt);

2. run osgmovie --devices

 If you have any live feed devices associated with a QuickTime
 driver then this will spit out some command line options and
 associations.
 It will also spit out any pseudo Windows VDIG wrapped Direct
 Show devices in the same way

eg: ...
  4:1.liveBlackmagic HDTV 720Intensity HDTV 720p 59.94
 ...
  1:4.liveHauppauge WinTV 418 Video Capture
 (4E384A6E048F0)S-Video 3 UYVY @ 720x480

 ...

3. run osgmovie and pass it a pseudo file name that will be
translated by the plug-in to point at an input device eg
$ osgmovie x:y.live

This will force load the osgdb_qt plug-in, and then attempt to
decode the x:y.live where x and y are the input and channel of
your input - eg 5:0.live

I plan to submit to Robert an osgvideo example which wraps some
of this up a bit better.

Cheers,

Colin.


Adrian Egli OpenSceneGraph (3D) wrote:
 Hi
 any demo / example ?
 
 regards
 2008/4/3, Mike Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 Colin,
 
Success! Using the later version of VDIG that you referenced, I was
 able to get a live stream to work with osgmovie.
 I'm using a KOCOM camera running video through a Canopus ADVC 110 A/D
 video convertor into a firewire cable.
 This is on Windows XP, OSG 2.3.5, Visual Studio 2005 debug, Quicktime
 SDK 7.3.
 
 
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Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-03 Thread Colin Dunlop
Hi Mike,

you might want to look here for some more tips:
http://processing.org/reference/libraries/video/

Prior to getting a capture card that shipped with a proper
QuickTime vdig supported under under Windows XP and XPx64,
I also tried a Windows wrapper called WinVDIG which I got
from here:
http://www.eden.net.nz/7/20071008/
However I found this version also crashed when responding the the
QuickTime vdig API calls upon it. Also play close attention to
the removal instructions for this stuff as it took me quite a
while to clean my machine of WinVDIG and the crashes. Anyway the
long and short of it is avoid this version and see below...

Stephan wrote:
 For windows there's one I know of available at
 http://www.abstractplane.com/products/vdig.jsp

I plan to give this other Windows VDIG wrapper from AbstractPlane
a go and see if I can help you to track the bugs. It looks far
more up to date than the other one and apparently works with
QuickTime7. This would be your best solution in the short term
and I'll get back to you on this ASAP.

The long and short of it is that I found the whole QuickTime SDK
and integration with OSG quite a different experience under Windows
and OSX. Pending some further funding and time I'd like to extend
the current work to upgrade the live/stream work to use optionally
DirectShow on Windows, and therefore free up the OSX version to use
the newer OpenGL/CoreVideo/Movie QT7 stuff - right now they
both share some old-style GWorld SequenceGrabber code to make it
work on both platforms - you could say equally well or equally
badly - and it creaks - especially the live stuff...

Cheers,

Colin.


On Wed, April 2, 2008 5:59 pm, Mike Greene wrote:
 Further progress : used WinVIDG to make the bridge between DirectShow
 devices and quicktime. Seemed to work.

 Ran osgmovied --devices   -   got this output:

 QT QTML: Starting up...
 QT QTML: initialized successfully
 QT Movies: Starting up...
 QT Movies: initialized successfully
 QT Movies: Closing down...
 QT Movies: closed successfully
 QT QTML: Closing down...
 QT QTML: Closed successfully
 QT QTML: Starting up...
 QT QTML: initialized successfully
 QT Movies: Starting up...
 QT Movies: initialized successfully
  available Video DigitizerComponents : 1
 Component
 Name: Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM
 Desc: Direct Show Proxy for QuickTime Digitizers

 DigitizerInfo:
 Digitizer Type : Basic (no clipping)
 Hardwre Slot : 0
 Input Capability:
 NTSC  : true
 PAL   : true
 Composite : true
 Component : true
 SVideo: false
 Input Current:
 NTSC  : true
 PAL   : true
 Composite : true
 Component : true
 SVideo: false
 Min destination width,height :  160  120
 Max destination width,height :  720  480
 NTSC  : true
 PAL   : true
 Composite : true
 Component : true
 SVideo: false
 GenLock   : false
 SECAM : true
 VTR_Broadcast : false
 Color : true
 BW: false
*SignalLock*   : true
 VDGetPreferredImageDimensions(aComponent, pref_width, pref_height) -
 ERROR
 Number of inputs:  0
 VDGetInputName(aComponent,(long)i, name) - ERROR
 Format of input :  compositeIn
 Currently active input :  0
 QT Movies: Closing down...
 QT Movies: closed successfully
 QT QTML: Closing down...
 QT QTML: Closed successfully
 QT QTML: Starting up...
 QT QTML: initialized successfully
 QT Movies: Starting up...
 QT Movies: initialized successfully
  available SequenceGrabber Components : 1
 Component
 Name: Movie Grabber
 Desc: Assists applications recording QuickTime movies
 SrcVideoBounds: 720 480
 Could not get DeviceAndInput names from Video SG
 ChannelDeviceAndInputNamesNumber: Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM :  : 0
 DeviceList from Video SG ok
 DeviceList : 1 devices in total
 DeviceList : 0 is current device

 Device ID : 0  : DeviceNameStr : Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM
 InputList : 1 inputs in total
 InputList : 0 is current input
 InputNameStr : 0
 Could not get DeviceAndInput names from Sound SG
 ChannelDeviceAndInputNamesNumber: Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM :  : 0
 DeviceList from Sound SG ok
 DeviceList : 1 devices in total
 DeviceList : 0 is current device

 Device ID : 0  : DeviceNameStr : waveIn
 InputList : 1 inputs in total
 InputList : 0 is current input
 InputNameStr : 0 Default
 QT Movies: Closing down...
 QT Movies: closed successfully
 QT QTML: Closing down...
 QT QTML: Closed successfully


 Then I ran osgmovied 0:0.live   --- got this output

 QT QTML: Starting up...
 QT QTML: initialized successfully
 QT Movies: Starting up...
 QT Movies: initialized successfully
 QT Movies: Closing down...
 QT Movies: closed successfully
 QT QTML: Closing down...
 QT QTML: Closed successfully
 QT QTML: Starting up...
 QT QTML: initialized successfully
 QT Movies: Starting up...
 QT Movies: initialized successfully
 

Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-03 Thread Mike Greene
Colin,

   Success! Using the later version of VDIG that you referenced, I was 
able to get a live stream to work with osgmovie.
I'm using a KOCOM camera running video through a Canopus ADVC 110 A/D 
video convertor into a firewire cable.
This is on Windows XP, OSG 2.3.5, Visual Studio 2005 debug, Quicktime 
SDK 7.3.

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Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-02 Thread Mike Greene
OK,

   I've hooked a video input source up to my firewire card. I've made 
sure that the qt plugin can recognize (.live) extensions. When I run 
osgmovied.exe --devices, I get messages about QT QTML, QT Movies, and QT 
QTML (again) starting up and closing down successfully. But the last 
line output is :

available Video DigitizerComponents : 0

I know the video is working because I have a VideoLan Client instance 
running and it shows the output of the camera feed. Is there there 
something else (maybe relative to QuickTime) that I need to specify?


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Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-02 Thread Stephan Maximilian Huber
Hi Mike,

Mike Greene schrieb:
 I know the video is working because I have a VideoLan Client instance 
 running and it shows the output of the camera feed. Is there there 
 something else (maybe relative to QuickTime) that I need to specify?

you'll need a vdig-component supporting your camera for Windows. On OS X 
there are built-in vdigs available for a lot of camera-models.

For windows there's one I know of available at 
http://www.abstractplane.com/products/vdig.jsp

cheers,
Stephan


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Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-02 Thread Mike Greene
Further progress : used WinVIDG to make the bridge between DirectShow 
devices and quicktime. Seemed to work.

Ran osgmovied --devices   -   got this output:

QT QTML: Starting up...
QT QTML: initialized successfully
QT Movies: Starting up...
QT Movies: initialized successfully
QT Movies: Closing down...
QT Movies: closed successfully
QT QTML: Closing down...
QT QTML: Closed successfully
QT QTML: Starting up...
QT QTML: initialized successfully
QT Movies: Starting up...
QT Movies: initialized successfully
 available Video DigitizerComponents : 1
Component
Name: Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM
Desc: Direct Show Proxy for QuickTime Digitizers

DigitizerInfo:
Digitizer Type : Basic (no clipping)
Hardwre Slot : 0
Input Capability:
NTSC  : true
PAL   : true
Composite : true
Component : true
SVideo: false
Input Current:
NTSC  : true
PAL   : true
Composite : true
Component : true
SVideo: false
Min destination width,height :  160  120
Max destination width,height :  720  480
NTSC  : true
PAL   : true
Composite : true
Component : true
SVideo: false
GenLock   : false
SECAM : true
VTR_Broadcast : false
Color : true
BW: false
   *SignalLock*   : true
VDGetPreferredImageDimensions(aComponent, pref_width, pref_height) - ERROR
Number of inputs:  0
VDGetInputName(aComponent,(long)i, name) - ERROR
Format of input :  compositeIn
Currently active input :  0
QT Movies: Closing down...
QT Movies: closed successfully
QT QTML: Closing down...
QT QTML: Closed successfully
QT QTML: Starting up...
QT QTML: initialized successfully
QT Movies: Starting up...
QT Movies: initialized successfully
 available SequenceGrabber Components : 1
Component
Name: Movie Grabber
Desc: Assists applications recording QuickTime movies
SrcVideoBounds: 720 480
Could not get DeviceAndInput names from Video SG
ChannelDeviceAndInputNamesNumber: Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM :  : 0
DeviceList from Video SG ok
DeviceList : 1 devices in total
DeviceList : 0 is current device

Device ID : 0  : DeviceNameStr : Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM
InputList : 1 inputs in total
InputList : 0 is current input
InputNameStr : 0
Could not get DeviceAndInput names from Sound SG
ChannelDeviceAndInputNamesNumber: Microsoft DV Camera and VCR-WDM :  : 0
DeviceList from Sound SG ok
DeviceList : 1 devices in total
DeviceList : 0 is current device

Device ID : 0  : DeviceNameStr : waveIn
InputList : 1 inputs in total
InputList : 0 is current input
InputNameStr : 0 Default
QT Movies: Closing down...
QT Movies: closed successfully
QT QTML: Closing down...
QT QTML: Closed successfully


Then I ran osgmovied 0:0.live   --- got this output

QT QTML: Starting up...
QT QTML: initialized successfully
QT Movies: Starting up...
QT Movies: initialized successfully
QT Movies: Closing down...
QT Movies: closed successfully
QT QTML: Closing down...
QT QTML: Closed successfully
QT QTML: Starting up...
QT QTML: initialized successfully
QT Movies: Starting up...
QT Movies: initialized successfully
SrcVideoBounds: 720 480
QT Movies: Closing down...
QT Movies: closed successfully
QT QTML: Closing down...
QT QTML: Closed successfully

VDGetDigitizerInfo(aComponent, vid_info) - ERROR
Error: Thread 01C66FCC still running in destructor


The app starts up an OSG window, but it is all gray.  

Any help/ideas?  I have seen a few net hits about incompatible versions 
of Quicktime. I'll look into that next.


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Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-01 Thread Stephan Huber
Mike Greene schrieb:
 I've been using the QT plugin for sometime now with a pre-recorded movie 
 (.mov). I now want to send it live streams. Is there any 
 documentation/examples on how to do this? I use VideoLan Client to start 
 a multicast stream (udp://@2xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1234) and can see it 
 remotely, so I know it is streaming correctly. How do I tell the plugin 
 what to look for as far as URL for the incoming stream? I tried using 
 the straight QuickTime player just to see if it would open the stream 
 and have been unsuccessful thus far in giving a correctly formed URL. I 
 glanced through the QT plugin code and saw something about a .live file?

The quicktime-plugin live feature is intended to grap a live-feed from a
attached usb/firewire cam. Quicktime itself can only stream
quicktime-movies via http / rtsp, but I haven't tested it with osg.

I am pretty sure, that the current quicktime plugin can't handle
streaming over the net, there's some missing functionality, and
osgDB::Registry will eat all requests to http and forward it to the
.net-plugin, perhaps this has changed with the occurance of the curl-plugin.

cheers,
Stephan



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Re: [osg-users] Quicktime plugin live streaming documentation/examples

2008-04-01 Thread Colin Dunlop
Hi Mike,

yup right now it'll work from an attached device as Stephan said
but in addition including a capture card, provided the device has
a quicktime driver installed. When I wrote the live feed extension
part of the work included support for a stream, however I did not
get that far and the capture card was sufficient for the client.

I wrote some documentation for the .live processing that Robert
asked me to put on the wiki - so I should do that tomorrow if you
think it would be of use to you. Are you on Windows or Mac BTW?

Since you asked about the .live then A=as a ten second piece of
documentation off the top of my head start by using a slightly
modified osgmovie app until I submit the osgvideo example:

0. Modify the osgmovie.cpp and make sure that the .live
extension is associated with the osgdb_qt plugin:

osgDB::Registry::instance()-addFileExtensionAlias(live,qt);

1. run osgmovie --devices

If you have any live feed devices associated with a QuickTime
driver then this will spit out some command line options and
associations.

eg: ...
 4:1.liveBlackmagic HDTV 720Intensity HDTV 720p 59.94
 ...

2. run osgmovie x.y.live

This will force load the osgdb_qt plugin, and then attempt to
open the x.y.live where x and y are the input and channel of
your input - eg 5:0.live

Sorry I can't help you regarding the streaming using QuickTime
at this point in time.

Cheers,

Colin.

Stephan Huber wrote:
 Mike Greene schrieb:
 I've been using the QT plugin for sometime now with a pre-recorded movie 
 (.mov). I now want to send it live streams. Is there any 
 documentation/examples on how to do this? I use VideoLan Client to start 
 a multicast stream (udp://@2xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:1234) and can see it 
 remotely, so I know it is streaming correctly. How do I tell the plugin 
 what to look for as far as URL for the incoming stream? I tried using 
 the straight QuickTime player just to see if it would open the stream 
 and have been unsuccessful thus far in giving a correctly formed URL. I 
 glanced through the QT plugin code and saw something about a .live file?
 
 The quicktime-plugin live feature is intended to grap a live-feed from a
 attached usb/firewire cam. Quicktime itself can only stream
 quicktime-movies via http / rtsp, but I haven't tested it with osg.
 
 I am pretty sure, that the current quicktime plugin can't handle
 streaming over the net, there's some missing functionality, and
 osgDB::Registry will eat all requests to http and forward it to the
 .net-plugin, perhaps this has changed with the occurance of the curl-plugin.
 
 cheers,
 Stephan
 
 
 
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