Re: Voice

['ra' via OsmAnd]

dito here.

R Adolph schrieb am Sonntag, 11. Oktober 2020 um 11:34:04 UTC+2:

> by the way, I often (about 30% of all my planned routes) experience that 
> OsmAnd does not "speak" when I plan a route. The only thing that I found 
> out helps in such a situation is to force close OsmAnd and when re-opening 
> it, it will ask if it shall continue the last route and then it always 
> worked so far. Once ir works, it will work thruout that session even when I 
> recalculate the route. Strange but at least it works.
>
> On Friday, 9 October 2020 at 21:27:43 UTC+2 tomcroc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> It only moves if it's centred on your position by pushing the 'My 
>> position' target. Have you done that?
>>
>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020, 20:10 Tony Schiano,  wrote:
>>
>>> Settings car navigation settings voice prompts  language tick 
>>> appropriate language. Can't help with second bit
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Wendy D'Hoker  wrote:
>>>
 My osmand app does not speak. I do not know how to let it speak. Can  
 anyone help me?
 And while driving i see our car driving with a sign on the map but the 
 map keeps the same and does not move. Is that normal?

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Re: Osmand repeatedly wants me to exit and immediately reenter a highway

[Paul van der Hulst]

Hi, 
I investigated a bit further, but some (OSRM) routers just seem to be 
pretty dumb. When routing from Wolvega to Sneek, it wants you to leave and 
re-enter the highway in Heerenveen, through a set of traffic lights! 
As for now I opt for not changing the max speed on the rejoin, but instead 
adding highway=give_way points before the intersections. It will take some 
time before this gets uploaded to osmand's maps and see if this fixes the 
situation. I don't expect OSRM to respect these...

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 9:51:12 AM UTC+2 myxw...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

> On 20-10-11 09:40, Martin Trautmann wrote:
> > On 20-10-11 07:08, Martin Trautmann wrote:
> > 
> >> I now checked with google street view - and there are several mistakes.
> >> 1) the offical autoroute does not go through. Instead, it does end at
> >> about 100 m before the crossing
> >> 2) the exit has a give-way sign at the crossing.
> >>
> >> The announcement of the crossing has an announcement, naming 150 m
> >> before. What's the distance of the posts? Are they 25 instead of 50 m?
> >> 3) autoroute then starts about 50 m after the crossing.
> >>
> >> It's the same situation on both the north side exit with a T crossing
> >> and the south side exit with an X crossing.
> >>
> >> So there is no need to think about a practical max speed, you just have
> >> to edit the proper details here.
> > 
> > I've fixed the Wolterholten exit. Please check whether that's ok now.
>
> And I have fixed speed limits on some further ON lanes. It did not use
> those paths for routing yet. Let's give it some ours to settle in...
>
>

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Re: Voice

[R Adolph]

by the way, I often (about 30% of all my planned routes) experience that 
OsmAnd does not "speak" when I plan a route. The only thing that I found 
out helps in such a situation is to force close OsmAnd and when re-opening 
it, it will ask if it shall continue the last route and then it always 
worked so far. Once ir works, it will work thruout that session even when I 
recalculate the route. Strange but at least it works.

On Friday, 9 October 2020 at 21:27:43 UTC+2 tomcroc...@gmail.com wrote:

> It only moves if it's centred on your position by pushing the 'My 
> position' target. Have you done that?
>
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020, 20:10 Tony Schiano,  wrote:
>
>> Settings car navigation settings voice prompts  language tick appropriate 
>> language. Can't help with second bit
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 7:22 PM Wendy D'Hoker  wrote:
>>
>>> My osmand app does not speak. I do not know how to let it speak. Can  
>>> anyone help me?
>>> And while driving i see our car driving with a sign on the map but the 
>>> map keeps the same and does not move. Is that normal?
>>>
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Re: Osmand repeatedly wants me to exit and immediately reenter a highway

[Martin Trautmann]

On 20-10-11 09:40, Martin Trautmann wrote:
> On 20-10-11 07:08, Martin Trautmann wrote:
> 
>> I now checked with google street view - and there are several mistakes.
>> 1) the offical autoroute does not go through. Instead, it does end at
>> about 100 m before the crossing
>> 2) the exit has a give-way sign at the crossing.
>>
>> The announcement of the crossing has an announcement, naming 150 m
>> before. What's the distance of the posts? Are they 25 instead of 50 m?
>> 3) autoroute then starts about 50 m after the crossing.
>>
>> It's the same situation on both the north side exit with a T crossing
>> and the south side exit with an X crossing.
>>
>> So there is no need to think about a practical max speed, you just have
>> to edit the proper details here.
> 
> I've fixed the Wolterholten exit. Please check whether that's ok now.

And I have fixed speed limits on some further ON lanes. It did not use
those paths for routing yet. Let's give it some ours to settle in...

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Re: Osmand repeatedly wants me to exit and immediately reenter a highway

[Martin Trautmann]

On 20-10-11 07:08, Martin Trautmann wrote:

> I now checked with google street view - and there are several mistakes.
> 1) the offical autoroute does not go through. Instead, it does end at
> about 100 m before the crossing
> 2) the exit has a give-way sign at the crossing.
> 
> The announcement of the crossing has an announcement, naming 150 m
> before. What's the distance of the posts? Are they 25 instead of 50 m?
> 3) autoroute then starts about 50 m after the crossing.
> 
> It's the same situation on both the north side exit with a T crossing
> and the south side exit with an X crossing.
> 
> So there is no need to think about a practical max speed, you just have
> to edit the proper details here.

I've fixed the Wolterholten exit. Please check whether that's ok now.

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Re: Osmand repeatedly wants me to exit and immediately reenter a highway

[A Thompson]

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 7:10:52 AM UTC+1, Martin Trautmann wrote:
>
>
> For a length of the exit lane of 1000 m length (@Wolterholten) this 
> would be a difference of up to 8.3 seconds (not account for an 
> acceleration time), for 500 m (Idzard) it would be half of it. How did 
> you compute the 3 s? 
>
> And even a single second difference, or a fraction of it, would advise 
> to navigate along the bypass lane, as long as there is not a significant 
> penalty on it. 
>

My 3s is close enough to your 8.3/2 but I instantly regretted saying "no 
more than" when I posted it - I should have said "about." I used the "plan 
route" tool in OsmAnd to measure the distances of the main route and the 
on/off ramps. Here are my notes:

motorway: 0.48mi=0.77km @ 100kmph = 28s
Off link: 352m & 100kph = 12.7s
ON link: 0.28mi=0.45km @130 = 12.5s


I mixed measurements of 2 and 3 significant figures. I should have said 
"about" :-) 

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Re: Osmand repeatedly wants me to exit and immediately reenter a highway

[Martin Trautmann]

On 20-10-11 04:18, A Thompson wrote:

> But out of curiosity I did some rough calculations on the junction shown
> on the right in the original post (it's at  52.90854, 6.00013). If you
> could instantaneously accelerate from 100 to 130 while crossing the
> junction between the off- and on- ramps you'd save no more than 3
> seconds compared to keeping on the highway. 


Before I checked the actual situation at this exit (afrit 9 Ter Idzard)
I assumed the typical German exits with a big four-leaf clover shape.
There you actually can drive at full speed on the outer exit lane.

It's not advisable. It's abuse. But AFAIK it would be permitted.

Some people use this to bypass a traffic jam on the main road, with less
traffic on the exit lane.

For a length of the exit lane of 1000 m length (@Wolterholten) this
would be a difference of up to 8.3 seconds (not account for an
acceleration time), for 500 m (Idzard) it would be half of it. How did
you compute the 3 s?

And even a single second difference, or a fraction of it, would advise
to navigate along the bypass lane, as long as there is not a significant
penalty on it.

So for the Netherlands exit, you just have to edit the details.


I think I found the route where I observed one of mw own problems:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=fossgis_osrm_car=49.18468%2C9.21291%3B49.17757%2C9.23691#map=17/49.18048/9.22960

It assumes a speed limit of 60 km/h on the A6 in Heilbronn (eastern
direction) - which is true, the autobahn is under construction.

But it does recommend the bypass on the exit lane. This motorway link
has no limit at all, or 100 km/h.

But actually you can not drive through. Last time I passed,
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/127681031 was completely blocked.

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