Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project
Hi Ian, Stephen at al, FYI I was loaned an Intel Mac for this specific phone job, and I put Windows 8.1 and VS2013.4 on it and the phone emulator runs fine with Hyper-V. I didn't realise until a couple of days ago that Windows Phone development is such a familiar experience if you already know WPF or Silverlight. It's all familiar XAML and coding patterns and almost all of the important class libraries are available and ready-to-go. All of the phone specific stuff is nicely separated and you can reference it when you feel the need. It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the brands -- *Greg* On 18 November 2014 17:17, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Greg - Yes, Windows 8 has the Hyper-V. But I know that a few people have used the WP8 SDK on Windows 7. I think a requirement is 64-bit Windows? But the VS2012 Express version is suitable. I found this a good jump-off point - *Developing Apps for Windows 8* http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402551(v=vs.105).aspx - possibly the topic about *requirements for the emulator* is what you needed to see first, though. I do have a Windows Phone, and after a long delay it was updated to WP8.1 a few months ago (Australia followed later than many countries). A beginners tool is called Windows App Studio - I just found its tutorial location again, *here* http://appstudio.windows.com/en-us. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:32 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project Hi Ian (and Stephen), No I was absentmindedly on Windows 7 where I do the bulk of my normal work. In a tiny hint in some web search I saw a comment about no support in Windows 7. I just went over to a VM running VS2013 retail and it has lots of phone templates, so there you go! I staggers me though, as I thought it was all simulated and I find it hard to believe a certain type of VS project needs Windows 8. That means that Windows 8 is actually useful for something!! (for the wrong reasons) -- *Greg* On 18 November 2014 14:42, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013? -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* VS2013 Windows Phone project Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've never done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a bad start. VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I have installed all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0 and v8.1 folders under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I should just be able to select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- *Greg K*
RE: [OT] Phone development and Hyper-V
Hi Greg, No, generally, you can’t run a VM that relies on the Hypervisor (WP8 Emulator) within a VM that relies on the Hypevisor (VMWare Player). One way to dev against WP8 from inside a VM is to use a physical device. BTW, I don’t know about VMWare Player, but VMWare Fusion allows an advanced setting called “Enable hypervisor applications in this virtual machine” which (I think) puts aside a dedicated processor on a multi-proc machine for use inside the VM and doesn’t enable the Hypervisor for the Host VM on that proc. (I could have the mechanism wrong, but the upshot is that you can run the WP8 [and, I expect, the new Android Emulator] in a Win8 VM running on OSX). Cheers, Coatsy Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 • http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2014 9:41 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: [OT] Phone development and Hyper-V I could never have imagined that Windows 8 phone development used Hyper-V for emulation. I spent hours installing a fresh VS2013 with all updates in Windows 8.1 VMWare Player, and after writing test a phone app which looks lovely in the designer, I'm unable to run it due to the exact problem described by this guy: http://celticcodingsolutions.com/Blog/post/2014/06/13/Error-running-Phone-Emulator-on-Windows-81-and-VS2013-in-VMWare-Workstation-8.aspx One of the Hyper-V components is not running Am I snookered or not? Can't I develop for Windows phone in a windows 8 VM? Searches on this problem produce nothing useful so far. Has anyone else overcome this problem? Greg K
RE: VS2013 Windows Phone project
Hi Greg It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the brands You almost can – check out Xamarin and particularly Xamarin Forms. Especially with the recent announcements (community edition of VS and the doubling of the size limits plus VS support on the Xamarin starter edition), this is a very affordable and extremely productive way to develop mobile apps across 3 major platforms. Cheers Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 • http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Thursday, 20 November 2014 8:32 AM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project Hi Ian, Stephen at al, FYI I was loaned an Intel Mac for this specific phone job, and I put Windows 8.1 and VS2013.4 on it and the phone emulator runs fine with Hyper-V. I didn't realise until a couple of days ago that Windows Phone development is such a familiar experience if you already know WPF or Silverlight. It's all familiar XAML and coding patterns and almost all of the important class libraries are available and ready-to-go. All of the phone specific stuff is nicely separated and you can reference it when you feel the need. It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the brands -- Greg On 18 November 2014 17:17, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Greg - Yes, Windows 8 has the Hyper-V. But I know that a few people have used the WP8 SDK on Windows 7. I think a requirement is 64-bit Windows? But the VS2012 Express version is suitable. I found this a good jump-off point - Developing Apps for Windows 8http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402551(v=vs.105).aspx - possibly the topic about requirements for the emulator is what you needed to see first, though. I do have a Windows Phone, and after a long delay it was updated to WP8.1 a few months ago (Australia followed later than many countries). A beginners tool is called Windows App Studio - I just found its tutorial location again, herehttp://appstudio.windows.com/en-us. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:32 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project Hi Ian (and Stephen), No I was absentmindedly on Windows 7 where I do the bulk of my normal work. In a tiny hint in some web search I saw a comment about no support in Windows 7. I just went over to a VM running VS2013 retail and it has lots of phone templates, so there you go! I staggers me though, as I thought it was all simulated and I find it hard to believe a certain type of VS project needs Windows 8. That means that Windows 8 is actually useful for something!! (for the wrong reasons) -- *Greg* On 18 November 2014 14:42, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.commailto:il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013? -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.commailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* VS2013 Windows Phone project Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've never done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a bad start. VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I have installed all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0 and v8.1 folders under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I should just be able to select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- *Greg K*
What happened yesterday with Azure?
Hi every, Yesterday Azure had a massive outage with 80% of the Azure going down world wide. At some point only the Australian, Brazil and Japan DCs were still working. http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/#history The outage took down XBox and Office 365 and of course everyone else running on Azure. There deems to be no news from Microsoft of what went wrong and why. Jeffrey Fritz gave an explanation but I'm not buying it: http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/11/19/fritz-azure-outage-web-sites.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Anybody has any other details about this? Thanks, Corneliu.
Re: What happened yesterday with Azure?
This effected me bad, although at least it happened during our day time so I was immediately aware and could communicate to users. Not exactly sure what happened but I think it was related to Cloud Storage being down. Many of the services rely on Cloud Storage so when it is dead almost everything is dead. Things that concerned me are a) How can a problem happen simultaneously is almost every data center. Shouldn't they be isolated so that can't happen. b) They need to communicate better during outages. The status page is to slow to update and often not accurate. They need a Twitter account giving updates every 5 minutes. Craig On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi every, Yesterday Azure had a massive outage with 80% of the Azure going down world wide. At some point only the Australian, Brazil and Japan DCs were still working. http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/#history The outage took down XBox and Office 365 and of course everyone else running on Azure. There deems to be no news from Microsoft of what went wrong and why. Jeffrey Fritz gave an explanation but I'm not buying it: http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/11/19/fritz-azure-outage-web-sites.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Anybody has any other details about this? Thanks, Corneliu.
Re: What happened yesterday with Azure?
Craig, There is a twitter status page: https://twitter.com/azurestatus It's still not updated .. even if it has heaps of other status updates ... :( On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com wrote: This effected me bad, although at least it happened during our day time so I was immediately aware and could communicate to users. Not exactly sure what happened but I think it was related to Cloud Storage being down. Many of the services rely on Cloud Storage so when it is dead almost everything is dead. Things that concerned me are a) How can a problem happen simultaneously is almost every data center. Shouldn't they be isolated so that can't happen. b) They need to communicate better during outages. The status page is to slow to update and often not accurate. They need a Twitter account giving updates every 5 minutes. Craig On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi every, Yesterday Azure had a massive outage with 80% of the Azure going down world wide. At some point only the Australian, Brazil and Japan DCs were still working. http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/#history The outage took down XBox and Office 365 and of course everyone else running on Azure. There deems to be no news from Microsoft of what went wrong and why. Jeffrey Fritz gave an explanation but I'm not buying it: http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/11/19/fritz-azure-outage-web-sites.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Anybody has any other details about this? Thanks, Corneliu.
Re: What happened yesterday with Azure?
Also, the failover he describes in the article is no good in yesterdays problem. I had that failover configured but it is no good if every data center goes down! On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com wrote: This effected me bad, although at least it happened during our day time so I was immediately aware and could communicate to users. Not exactly sure what happened but I think it was related to Cloud Storage being down. Many of the services rely on Cloud Storage so when it is dead almost everything is dead. Things that concerned me are a) How can a problem happen simultaneously is almost every data center. Shouldn't they be isolated so that can't happen. b) They need to communicate better during outages. The status page is to slow to update and often not accurate. They need a Twitter account giving updates every 5 minutes. Craig On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi every, Yesterday Azure had a massive outage with 80% of the Azure going down world wide. At some point only the Australian, Brazil and Japan DCs were still working. http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/#history The outage took down XBox and Office 365 and of course everyone else running on Azure. There deems to be no news from Microsoft of what went wrong and why. Jeffrey Fritz gave an explanation but I'm not buying it: http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/11/19/fritz-azure-outage-web-sites.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Anybody has any other details about this? Thanks, Corneliu.
Re: What happened yesterday with Azure?
Yes, but that doesn't really provide any useful info. I want to know what the problem is, when will it be fixed and what we can do in the mean time. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Craig, There is a twitter status page: https://twitter.com/azurestatus It's still not updated .. even if it has heaps of other status updates ... :( On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Craig van Nieuwkerk crai...@gmail.com wrote: This effected me bad, although at least it happened during our day time so I was immediately aware and could communicate to users. Not exactly sure what happened but I think it was related to Cloud Storage being down. Many of the services rely on Cloud Storage so when it is dead almost everything is dead. Things that concerned me are a) How can a problem happen simultaneously is almost every data center. Shouldn't they be isolated so that can't happen. b) They need to communicate better during outages. The status page is to slow to update and often not accurate. They need a Twitter account giving updates every 5 minutes. Craig On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Corneliu I. Tusnea corne...@acorns.com.au wrote: Hi every, Yesterday Azure had a massive outage with 80% of the Azure going down world wide. At some point only the Australian, Brazil and Japan DCs were still working. http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/status/#history The outage took down XBox and Office 365 and of course everyone else running on Azure. There deems to be no news from Microsoft of what went wrong and why. Jeffrey Fritz gave an explanation but I'm not buying it: http://visualstudiomagazine.com/articles/2014/11/19/fritz-azure-outage-web-sites.aspx?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Anybody has any other details about this? Thanks, Corneliu.
Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project
Hi Andrew, you must have missed some chat earlier in the week. I didn't know that the phone simulator relied on Hyper-V, so I was taken by surprise. That's solved by being loaned a Mac running Windows 8.1 on the metal. I've previously downloaded Xamarin for evaluation and I spent hours reading their online docs and I doodled with some projects. I'm sceptical that the starter edition would satisfy my needs, as I get the impression that their forms feature in the business edition is probably the most productive way to go. However if their starter edition with expanded quotas runs in VS2013 premium then I'll give it a try -- *Greg K* On 20 November 2014 09:50, Andrew Coates (DX AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi Greg It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the brands You almost can – check out Xamarin and particularly Xamarin Forms. Especially with the recent announcements (community edition of VS and the doubling of the size limits plus VS support on the Xamarin starter edition), this is a very affordable and extremely productive way to develop mobile apps across 3 major platforms. Cheers Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 • http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Thursday, 20 November 2014 8:32 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project Hi Ian, Stephen at al, FYI I was loaned an Intel Mac for this specific phone job, and I put Windows 8.1 and VS2013.4 on it and the phone emulator runs fine with Hyper-V. I didn't realise until a couple of days ago that Windows Phone development is such a familiar experience if you already know WPF or Silverlight. It's all familiar XAML and coding patterns and almost all of the important class libraries are available and ready-to-go. All of the phone specific stuff is nicely separated and you can reference it when you feel the need. It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the brands -- *Greg* On 18 November 2014 17:17, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Greg - Yes, Windows 8 has the Hyper-V. But I know that a few people have used the WP8 SDK on Windows 7. I think a requirement is 64-bit Windows? But the VS2012 Express version is suitable. I found this a good jump-off point - Developing Apps for Windows 8 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402551(v=vs.105).aspx - possibly the topic about *requirements for the emulator* is what you needed to see first, though. I do have a Windows Phone, and after a long delay it was updated to WP8.1 a few months ago (Australia followed later than many countries). A beginners tool is called Windows App Studio - I just found its tutorial location again, here http://appstudio.windows.com/en-us. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:32 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project Hi Ian (and Stephen), No I was absentmindedly on Windows 7 where I do the bulk of my normal work. In a tiny hint in some web search I saw a comment about no support in Windows 7. I just went over to a VM running VS2013 retail and it has lots of phone templates, so there you go! I staggers me though, as I thought it was all simulated and I find it hard to believe a certain type of VS project needs Windows 8. That means that Windows 8 is actually useful for something!! (for the wrong reasons) -- *Greg* On 18 November 2014 14:42, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013? -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* VS2013 Windows Phone project Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've never done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a bad start. VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I have installed all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0 and v8.1 folders under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I should just be able to select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- *Greg K*
Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project
Yeah, Xamarin is currently looking like the best option for a C# developer to develop for cross platform devices. I ran a demo at Perth .net user group where I showed a solution with 4 target OS's in one, and how/where you share your code between them. Window (store), Windows Phone, iOS and Android. The down side of them bringing out the community stuff is that my license I bought (not cheap) so I could use Visual Studio won't be needed. The upside is I probably won't need to renew it when it expires (unless I'm actually using it for paid work, I will use the community ed). C# is showing up in more and more places. Xamarin, Unity 3d, and I'm sure its elsewhere. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Andrew Coates (DX AUSTRALIA) andrew.coa...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi Greg It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the brands You almost can – check out Xamarin and particularly Xamarin Forms. Especially with the recent announcements (community edition of VS and the doubling of the size limits plus VS support on the Xamarin starter edition), this is a very affordable and extremely productive way to develop mobile apps across 3 major platforms. Cheers Andrew Coates, ME, MCPD, MCSD MCTS, Developer Evangelist, Microsoft, 1 Epping Road, NORTH RYDE NSW 2113 Ph: +61 (2) 9870 2719 • Mob +61 (416) 134 993 • Fax: +61 (2) 9870 2400 • http://blogs.msdn.com/acoat *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Thursday, 20 November 2014 8:32 AM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project Hi Ian, Stephen at al, FYI I was loaned an Intel Mac for this specific phone job, and I put Windows 8.1 and VS2013.4 on it and the phone emulator runs fine with Hyper-V. I didn't realise until a couple of days ago that Windows Phone development is such a familiar experience if you already know WPF or Silverlight. It's all familiar XAML and coding patterns and almost all of the important class libraries are available and ready-to-go. All of the phone specific stuff is nicely separated and you can reference it when you feel the need. It's a damn shame you can't write phone apps this pleasantly across all the brands -- *Greg* On 18 November 2014 17:17, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Greg - Yes, Windows 8 has the Hyper-V. But I know that a few people have used the WP8 SDK on Windows 7. I think a requirement is 64-bit Windows? But the VS2012 Express version is suitable. I found this a good jump-off point - Developing Apps for Windows 8 http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/ff402551(v=vs.105).aspx - possibly the topic about *requirements for the emulator* is what you needed to see first, though. I do have a Windows Phone, and after a long delay it was updated to WP8.1 a few months ago (Australia followed later than many countries). A beginners tool is called Windows App Studio - I just found its tutorial location again, here http://appstudio.windows.com/en-us. Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria -Original Message- From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On Behalf Of Greg Keogh Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 4:32 PM To: ozDotNet Subject: Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project Hi Ian (and Stephen), No I was absentmindedly on Windows 7 where I do the bulk of my normal work. In a tiny hint in some web search I saw a comment about no support in Windows 7. I just went over to a VM running VS2013 retail and it has lots of phone templates, so there you go! I staggers me though, as I thought it was all simulated and I find it hard to believe a certain type of VS project needs Windows 8. That means that Windows 8 is actually useful for something!! (for the wrong reasons) -- *Greg* On 18 November 2014 14:42, ILT (O) il.tho...@outlook.com wrote: Are you developing on Windows 8.1 with VS2013? -- Ian Thomas Albert Park, Victoria *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] *On Behalf Of *Greg Keogh *Sent:* Tuesday, November 18, 2014 2:22 PM *To:* ozDotNet *Subject:* VS2013 Windows Phone project Folks, I have been asked to write a demo Windows Phone app, which I've never done before, but I'm keen to give it a bash. However, I'm off to a bad start. VS2013 Update 4 has no New Project template for a phone app. I have installed all VS2013 features. I can see the Windows Phone SDK v8.0 and v8.1 folders under Program Files(x86). Web searches hint that I should just be able to select New Project and off I go. What's missing? -- *Greg K*
Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project
C# is showing up in more and more places. Xamarin, Unity 3d, and I'm sure its elsewhere. I couldn't help but notice that too, it really gives street cred to C# ... Xamarin chooses C# as their primary language, but I see they have F# support documentation as well. Whatever happened to VB.NET? I miss the old VB sucks Fridays! *Greg*
VB.NET (was Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project)
Did someone mention vb.net? Finally! Now I can sleep well knowing I'm not completely a dinosaur...yet. :p On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: C# is showing up in more and more places. Xamarin, Unity 3d, and I'm sure its elsewhere. I couldn't help but notice that too, it really gives street cred to C# ... Xamarin chooses C# as their primary language, but I see they have F# support documentation as well. Whatever happened to VB.NET? I miss the old VB sucks Fridays! *Greg*
Re: VB.NET (was Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project)
Yes, there are still VB.NET programmers around. My workplace is using C# for many new projects but we have lots of VB.NET (and some VB6) legacy stuff that won't go away. -- Regards, Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.) On 20 November 2014 16:07, DotNet Dude adotnetd...@gmail.com wrote: Did someone mention vb.net? Finally! Now I can sleep well knowing I'm not completely a dinosaur...yet. :p On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: C# is showing up in more and more places. Xamarin, Unity 3d, and I'm sure its elsewhere. I couldn't help but notice that too, it really gives street cred to C# ... Xamarin chooses C# as their primary language, but I see they have F# support documentation as well. Whatever happened to VB.NET? I miss the old VB sucks Fridays! Greg
Re: VB.NET (was Re: VS2013 Windows Phone project)
It's Thursday, we can have it tomorrow. On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:37 PM, DotNet Dude adotnetd...@gmail.com wrote: Did someone mention vb.net? Finally! Now I can sleep well knowing I'm not completely a dinosaur...yet. :p On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: C# is showing up in more and more places. Xamarin, Unity 3d, and I'm sure its elsewhere. I couldn't help but notice that too, it really gives street cred to C# ... Xamarin chooses C# as their primary language, but I see they have F# support documentation as well. Whatever happened to VB.NET? I miss the old VB sucks Fridays! *Greg* -- Meski http://courteous.ly/aAOZcv Going to Starbucks for coffee is like going to prison for sex. Sure, you'll get it, but it's going to be rough - Adam Hills