Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Wallace Turner]

can you try winscp[1] ?

filezilla *used* to work for me to connecting to an sftp site; it 
stopped working couldnt determine why so I now use winscp which works


[1] : http://winscp.net/eng/index.php

On 12/03/2014 11:12 AM, Greg Keogh wrote:
Folks, for the first time in a couple of years I have to get FTP 
working on a Win2008R2 Server. IIS seems to configured correctly (I 
think), I can see port 21 open to the world via Shields-Up, tcpmon 
shows 21 is listening, FTP is set to use basic authentication. So it 
"looks" alright, but all attempts to connect fail.


IE says "The page can't be displayed". Filezilla says "can't connect 
to the server". Ftp.exe says "Connection closed by the remote host".


I just can't get any reason why it's failing? IIS FTP says it's 
logging but there are no files. Can anyone think of any trick to get 
more useful information about why it's failing?


/Greg K/

RE: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Ken Schaefer]

Same difference - you have a connectivity issue, and we just need to work 
through where it's breaking.

Are you trying to access the FTP site through your NAT router? Yes/No
Are you trying to access the FTP site directly across your LAN? Yes/No
Are you trying to use active or passive?

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2014 4:49 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

Didn't we go through all of these in October last year?

No, it was all reversed back then. An app was trying to talk to the outside 
world, and it turned out the author of the C++ code was not familiar with PASV 
and once he flipped that on in code everything worked. I wasted days on testing 
with ftp.exe<ftp://ftp.exe> not realising that it didn't support PASV mode.

Today I just want to get a vanilla IIS FTP site working.

Greg K

RE: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Ken Schaefer]

The old IIS FTP was a holdover from IIS6. A brand new integrated IIS FTP was 
released out-of-band for IIS7. This includes new features like an equivalent 
for HTTP Host headers for FTPS (Rob, the IIS PM leading this co-wrote the RFC)

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Grant Maw
Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2014 6:20 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

I gave up on IIS FTP ages ago. Gazillions of settings in unpredictable places 
make it a security nightmare apart from anything else. Suggest you use 
FileZilla server. It's quick and easy to install and use.

On 12 March 2014 15:48, Greg Keogh mailto:g...@mira.net>> wrote:
Didn't we go through all of these in October last year?

No, it was all reversed back then. An app was trying to talk to the outside 
world, and it turned out the author of the C++ code was not familiar with PASV 
and once he flipped that on in code everything worked. I wasted days on testing 
with ftp.exe<ftp://ftp.exe> not realising that it didn't support PASV mode.

Today I just want to get a vanilla IIS FTP site working.

Greg K

Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Grant Maw]

I gave up on IIS FTP ages ago. Gazillions of settings in unpredictable
places make it a security nightmare apart from anything else. Suggest you
use FileZilla server. It's quick and easy to install and use.


On 12 March 2014 15:48, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Didn't we go through all of these in October last year?
>>
>
> No, it was all reversed back then. An app was trying to talk to the
> outside world, and it turned out the author of the C++ code was not
> familiar with PASV and once he flipped that on in code everything worked. I
> wasted days on testing with ftp.exe not realising that it didn't support
> PASV mode.
>
> Today I just want to get a vanilla IIS FTP site working.
>
> Greg K
>

Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Greg Keogh]

>
> Didn't we go through all of these in October last year?
>

No, it was all reversed back then. An app was trying to talk to the outside
world, and it turned out the author of the C++ code was not familiar with
PASV and once he flipped that on in code everything worked. I wasted days
on testing with ftp.exe not realising that it didn't support PASV mode.

Today I just want to get a vanilla IIS FTP site working.

Greg K

RE: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Ken Schaefer]

Didn't we go through all of these in October last year?

Are you actually trying to use FTP through your NAT router? If so, are you 
using Active or Passive FTP? It makes a big difference. Username/password is 
transmitted on the control channel (-> server:port 21), so that should always 
go through.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2014 3:57 PM
To: Paul Evrat; ozDotNet
Subject: Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

Chaps, I've spent 30 solid minutes checking every option in sight and following 
links to the end of the Internet I've made one possible step forward.

In the IIS ftproot bindings I noticed the IP address was present, so I changed 
it to All Unassigned.

Now ftp.exe<ftp://ftp.exe> is working nicely. FileZilla connects but times out 
listing the user's folder contents. IE prompts for a user/password and seems to 
connect but soon says "page can't be displayed".

So it's neither fixed nor broken now, I'm left in a bewildered state where I 
don't know what's right or wrong. What else would you expect?!

Greg K

On 12 March 2014 14:59, Paul Evrat 
mailto:p...@paulevrat.com>> wrote:

Router port open and port fowarding set up?





 Original message 
From: Stephen Price 
mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>>
Date:
To: ozDotNet mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>>
Subject: Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

Ah yes, you did try that...

This link here has some stuff on it regarding permissions (file based - step 3) 
so might help?

http://www.iis.net/learn/publish/using-the-ftp-service/configuring-ftp-firewall-settings-in-iis-7



On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Stephen Price 
mailto:step...@perthprojects.com>> wrote:
Have you tried FTP from command line?

might give more info?

On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Greg Keogh 
mailto:g...@mira.net>> wrote:
Folks, for the first time in a couple of years I have to get FTP working on a 
Win2008R2 Server. IIS seems to configured correctly (I think), I can see port 
21 open to the world via Shields-Up, tcpmon shows 21 is listening, FTP is set 
to use basic authentication. So it "looks" alright, but all attempts to connect 
fail.

IE says "The page can't be displayed". Filezilla says "can't connect to the 
server". Ftp.exe<ftp://Ftp.exe> says "Connection closed by the remote host".

I just can't get any reason why it's failing? IIS FTP says it's logging but 
there are no files. Can anyone think of any trick to get more useful 
information about why it's failing?

Greg K

Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Greg Keogh]

Chaps, I've spent 30 solid minutes checking every option in sight and
following links to the end of the Internet I've made one possible step
forward.

In the IIS ftproot bindings I noticed the IP address was present, so I
changed it to *All Unassigned*.

Now ftp.exe is working nicely. FileZilla connects but times out listing the
user's folder contents. IE prompts for a user/password and seems to connect
but soon says "page can't be displayed".

So it's neither fixed nor broken now, I'm left in a bewildered state where
I don't know what's right or wrong. What else would you expect?!

*Greg K*


On 12 March 2014 14:59, Paul Evrat  wrote:

>
> Router port open and port fowarding set up?
>
>
>
>
>
>  Original message --------
> From: Stephen Price 
> Date:
> To: ozDotNet 
> Subject: Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis
>
>
> Ah yes, you did try that...
>
> This link here has some stuff on it regarding permissions (file based -
> step 3) so might help?
>
>
> http://www.iis.net/learn/publish/using-the-ftp-service/configuring-ftp-firewall-settings-in-iis-7
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Stephen Price  > wrote:
>
>> Have you tried FTP from command line?
>>
>> might give more info?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>>
>>> Folks, for the first time in a couple of years I have to get FTP working
>>> on a Win2008R2 Server. IIS seems to configured correctly (I think), I can
>>> see port 21 open to the world via Shields-Up, tcpmon shows 21 is listening,
>>> FTP is set to use basic authentication. So it "looks" alright, but all
>>> attempts to connect fail.
>>>
>>> IE says "The page can't be displayed". Filezilla says "can't connect to
>>> the server". Ftp.exe says "Connection closed by the remote host".
>>>
>>> I just can't get any reason why it's failing? IIS FTP says it's logging
>>> but there are no files. Can anyone think of any trick to get more useful
>>> information about why it's failing?
>>>
>>> *Greg K*
>>>
>>
>>
>

RE: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Ken Schaefer]

FTP can use either Active or Passive mode. It affects the direction that the 
DATA connection is opened, and the ports being used:
http://slacksite.com/other/ftp.html
So, you may need to change your configuration, or force one or other mode, 
depending on the overall network setup.

Cheers
Ken

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com [mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Keogh
Sent: Wednesday, 12 March 2014 2:12 PM
To: ozDotNet
Subject: [OT] FTP diagnosis

Folks, for the first time in a couple of years I have to get FTP working on a 
Win2008R2 Server. IIS seems to configured correctly (I think), I can see port 
21 open to the world via Shields-Up, tcpmon shows 21 is listening, FTP is set 
to use basic authentication. So it "looks" alright, but all attempts to connect 
fail.

IE says "The page can't be displayed". Filezilla says "can't connect to the 
server". Ftp.exe says "Connection closed by the remote host".

I just can't get any reason why it's failing? IIS FTP says it's logging but 
there are no files. Can anyone think of any trick to get more useful 
information about why it's failing?

Greg K

Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Paul Evrat]

Router port open and port fowarding set up?




 Original message 
From: Stephen Price  
Date:  
To: ozDotNet  
Subject: Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis 
 
Ah yes, you did try that...

This link here has some stuff on it regarding permissions (file based - step 3) 
so might help?

http://www.iis.net/learn/publish/using-the-ftp-service/configuring-ftp-firewall-settings-in-iis-7




On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Stephen Price  
wrote:
Have you tried FTP from command line? 

might give more info?


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
Folks, for the first time in a couple of years I have to get FTP working on a 
Win2008R2 Server. IIS seems to configured correctly (I think), I can see port 
21 open to the world via Shields-Up, tcpmon shows 21 is listening, FTP is set 
to use basic authentication. So it "looks" alright, but all attempts to connect 
fail.

IE says "The page can't be displayed". Filezilla says "can't connect to the 
server". Ftp.exe says "Connection closed by the remote host".

I just can't get any reason why it's failing? IIS FTP says it's logging but 
there are no files. Can anyone think of any trick to get more useful 
information about why it's failing?

Greg K

Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Stephen Price]

Ah yes, you did try that...

This link here has some stuff on it regarding permissions (file based -
step 3) so might help?

http://www.iis.net/learn/publish/using-the-ftp-service/configuring-ftp-firewall-settings-in-iis-7




On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Stephen Price
wrote:

> Have you tried FTP from command line?
>
> might give more info?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:
>
>> Folks, for the first time in a couple of years I have to get FTP working
>> on a Win2008R2 Server. IIS seems to configured correctly (I think), I can
>> see port 21 open to the world via Shields-Up, tcpmon shows 21 is listening,
>> FTP is set to use basic authentication. So it "looks" alright, but all
>> attempts to connect fail.
>>
>> IE says "The page can't be displayed". Filezilla says "can't connect to
>> the server". Ftp.exe says "Connection closed by the remote host".
>>
>> I just can't get any reason why it's failing? IIS FTP says it's logging
>> but there are no files. Can anyone think of any trick to get more useful
>> information about why it's failing?
>>
>> *Greg K*
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] FTP diagnosis

[Stephen Price]

Have you tried FTP from command line?

might give more info?


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> Folks, for the first time in a couple of years I have to get FTP working
> on a Win2008R2 Server. IIS seems to configured correctly (I think), I can
> see port 21 open to the world via Shields-Up, tcpmon shows 21 is listening,
> FTP is set to use basic authentication. So it "looks" alright, but all
> attempts to connect fail.
>
> IE says "The page can't be displayed". Filezilla says "can't connect to
> the server". Ftp.exe says "Connection closed by the remote host".
>
> I just can't get any reason why it's failing? IIS FTP says it's logging
> but there are no files. Can anyone think of any trick to get more useful
> information about why it's failing?
>
> *Greg K*
>