RE: Independent Midwives
I want to add my support to this call for bridge-building and closer co-operation/mutual respect/support between the various professionals involved in birthing services. I have chosen not to engage any further in the current debate with the Senator, even though I wish I had a way of saying something that would clearly present what I believe to be the truth. You see, although we have the WHO statement about the midwife being the most appropriate primary carer, although we have the ICM Definition of a midwife, which is endorsed by both the International Federation of Gynecologists and Obstetricians, and WHO - yet there is a strong belief in our society that obstetric management is better/safer/more appropriate than any other option. As long as a person such as Senator Eggleston believes that, he would be going against his personal integrity to support anything else, ESPECIALLY a service that her honestly believes is inferior. As long as this perception is held, Senator Eggleston and millions of other professionals and consumers in this country will continue to support a system that is based on a very shaky foundation. AND they will believe they are acting in the best interest of the public they are committed to serve. It is therefore obvious that education to change the mindset, that midwife primary care is no less safe than medical management, is urgently needed. A few years ago I was at a meeting, at which Prof Marc Kierse (of Effective Care) was asked a question about who looks after pregnant women in Holland. He replied very quickly to the effect that an obstetrician is a specialist, and doesn't want to waste his/her time with well women. That's the midwife's job, and the midwife sends women to him if they need to see him. That's collaboration, cooperation, and professional respect in action. Joy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Morning Sickness Remedies
Dear Karen, I have worked for many years as a Naturopath and treated numerous women for morning sickness - a misnomer really since many have it all day! I have found that you have to find out through trial and error what works for each individual as this varies a lot. Ginger can be very effective, though I would generally add it to a herb mix containing the morning sickness - specific herb Black Horehound (Ballota nigra), together with some chamomile and dandelion root.Generally naturopaths aim to support the liver , having the belief that the nausea comes from the increased hormonal load on the liver. My most memorable successes however have always been with homoeopathic medicines - these have to be chosen based on the woman's symptoms, though remedies like Sepia and Cocculus are commonly needed. I don't know if your friend has a homoeopath /naturopath in their area or if it is within her reality to consult one - at least their medicines won't have any harmful side-effects! Hope this is helpful, regards allison. -Original Message- From: Karen_Tinkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 21 July 2001 6:09 Subject: Morning Sickness Remedies Dear List, Can anyone please advise of anything they recommend for morning sickness, I have a friend who has tried ginger, but by this stage can no longer look at anything ginger. Does anyone know of the usefulness of B^ and are there any possible dangers associated with same. All suggestions greatly appreciated, Karen Powered by telstra.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [BMidStudentCollective] ACMI Constitution
Dear Tina, thankyou for making this available to us to read. I also feel very excited that student and consumer members will be allowed, if the changes to the constitution are approved. I am not familiar with reading such documents , however I did feel concerned to read that in section 5e it said that you could lose your membership if your branch folded having not paid its capitation fees. Does this mean that it is the responsibility of each member to check that such fees are paid by their branch? I'm sure it wouldn't ever happen - I was just wondering. Have you heard whether consumers or students are going to be able to attend the conference in Brisbane at discount rates? I would like to take this opportunity to say a HUGE THANKYOU for all your hard work on behalf of the student collective. You fill me with awe. cheers, allison. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, 9 July 2001 1:14 Subject: [BMidStudentCollective] ACMI Constitution Hi all, just letting everyone know that the 2nd draft of the ACMI Constitution is up on the ACMI website and is open for comment. You can find it at: http://www.acmi.org.au/ACMI_Constitution_Draft2.pdf The document provides for interesting reading. I encourage all to read it carefully and to make comment. The College is seeking feedback and or amendments to the draft document by 24th July 2001. The Final Draft document to be published in the August edition of the ACMI newsletter, before being ratified at the National ACMI Conference in Brisbane in September. I am delighted to see that the 2nd draft constitution includes nomination for membership for consumers and for midwifery students -open to those undertaking or wishing to undertake pre registration midwifery education. It is important that ACMI members and other interested parties contribute to open honest and meaningful discussion on these issues and arrive at an outcome that ultimately reflects the codependant nature of the relationship between women and midwives - Partnership. I look forward to hearing what others have to say on this potential monumentous step forward in the history of Australian midwifery. Yours in birth, Tina Pettigrew Birthworks Independent CBE and aspiring B.Mid Midwife. Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective. As we trust the flowers to open to new life - So we can trust birth Harriette Hartigan. --- To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: Morning Sickness Remedies
I have this great little book that I recently picked up for $3.95 from one of those book shops that sell discontinued books. It is called Morning Sickness, author is Nicky Wesson. It's published by Random House. I almost can't wait to be preg and feeling sick to try out some of the things in the book! Jayne - Original Message - From: Allison Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Karen_Tinkler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 10:09 PM Subject: Re: Morning Sickness Remedies Dear Karen, I have worked for many years as a Naturopath and treated numerous women for morning sickness - a misnomer really since many have it all day! I have found that you have to find out through trial and error what works for each individual as this varies a lot. Ginger can be very effective, though I would generally add it to a herb mix containing the morning sickness - specific herb Black Horehound (Ballota nigra), together with some chamomile and dandelion root.Generally naturopaths aim to support the liver , having the belief that the nausea comes from the increased hormonal load on the liver. My most memorable successes however have always been with homoeopathic medicines - these have to be chosen based on the woman's symptoms, though remedies like Sepia and Cocculus are commonly needed. I don't know if your friend has a homoeopath /naturopath in their area or if it is within her reality to consult one - at least their medicines won't have any harmful side-effects! Hope this is helpful, regards allison. -Original Message- From: Karen_Tinkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 21 July 2001 6:09 Subject: Morning Sickness Remedies Dear List, Can anyone please advise of anything they recommend for morning sickness, I have a friend who has tried ginger, but by this stage can no longer look at anything ginger. Does anyone know of the usefulness of B^ and are there any possible dangers associated with same. All suggestions greatly appreciated, Karen Powered by telstra.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Fw: Breastfeeding
- Original Message - From: Jayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 11:20 PM Subject: Re: Breastfeeding Jackie, here is some info I got from a friend - hope it helps: She should also be taking fenugreek and blessed thistle - and/or perhaps visit her doctor to get a prescription for domperidone to increase her milk supply. Red Raspberry leaf tea too. Lots of fluids. She should be pumping/suckling a minimum of 12x per day - at least 80 minutes spread out throughout the day in order to establish a milk supply and maintain it. A few times a day is not going to do it. She should use a double electric pump that does not pain her when she uses it. Best of luck to them. What a fortunate child to have two such caring mothers. Jayne - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 8:17 AM Subject: Breastfeeding Does anyone have any tips on establishing lactation for the non birth mother of a lesbian couple? I have found a few articles for adoptive breasfeeding and discussed stimulation by pumping and the baby suckling. The birth mother is going to be home to feed till the end of the year and will then return to work and the other mother will then take care of the baby. It is not imperative that she makes all of the milk as she will be able to take the baby to the workplace of her partner but it would be helpful. I suggested that she would be able to do a few feeds during the day and then the birth mother could feed her when she gets home. Thanks Jackie -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: IPM issue in the Weekend Australian
Thanks for bringing all this information to our attention, Hannah. Have been out of contact because of practice issues, and will no doubt be more involved with one of my clients (now overdue) for the next few days. Thanks for all the College support and the articles you have had published. Jan Check out todays Weekend Australian for an article on the IPM insurance isssue. Cheers Hannah -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- __ Jan Robinson Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350 Independent Midwife Practitioner e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8 Robin Crescent www: midwiferyeducation.com.au South Hurstville NSW 2221 National Coordinator, ASIM __ -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
PI national strategies??
Dear All A) I think it is great Sydney has had/will have a strategy meeting and I look forward to a report /or ideas to mount national co-ordinated caimpaigns! For instance has any one got a federal party to include 1) universal access to midwifery care and 2) no fault insurance on their policy proposals?? B) What has been heard back from Giuld or other insurers?? C) On a related tack in the event this PI issue has not been sorted by September perhaps we could have a side meeting at the NMAA ACMI conferences in September to pool responses plan national co-ordinated strategies?? Denise - Original Message - From: Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 3:36 PM Subject: RE: Independent Midwives I want to add my support to this call for bridge-building and closer co-operation/mutual respect/support between the various professionals involved in birthing services. I have chosen not to engage any further in the current debate with the Senator, even though I wish I had a way of saying something that would clearly present what I believe to be the truth. You see, although we have the WHO statement about the midwife being the most appropriate primary carer, although we have the ICM Definition of a midwife, which is endorsed by both the International Federation of Gynecologists and Obstetricians, and WHO - yet there is a strong belief in our society that obstetric management is better/safer/more appropriate than any other option. As long as a person such as Senator Eggleston believes that, he would be going against his personal integrity to support anything else, ESPECIALLY a service that her honestly believes is inferior. As long as this perception is held, Senator Eggleston and millions of other professionals and consumers in this country will continue to support a system that is based on a very shaky foundation. AND they will believe they are acting in the best interest of the public they are committed to serve. It is therefore obvious that education to change the mindset, that midwife primary care is no less safe than medical management, is urgently needed. A few years ago I was at a meeting, at which Prof Marc Kierse (of Effective Care) was asked a question about who looks after pregnant women in Holland. He replied very quickly to the effect that an obstetrician is a specialist, and doesn't want to waste his/her time with well women. That's the midwife's job, and the midwife sends women to him if they need to see him. That's collaboration, cooperation, and professional respect in action. Joy -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: midwives
Dear Phillip Trust you saw the story on the 7.30 Report on Thursday night as a midwife I (and many of my colleagues) was a little peeved that the medicos got to add their call for insurance coverage to be added to our case. Not only because as Prof Lesley said (midwives) high communicators with clients are the lowest risk of being sued the reverse is found with doctors who are sued! Medicos also belong to expensive contributory defense unions rather than insurance hence their exorbitant premiums which are bemoaned in this ongoing uninformed media outcry but the insurance companies have tarred midwives with the same brush so we and our clients suffer further whilst the status quo continues to support the medical dominance of childbirth regardless of the safety and other benefits of our care! Please help the public of Australia to get a complete undoctored (forgive the pun) edited report of the case for universal and equitable access to midwifery models of care as per our Tasman neighbour? Yours sincerely Denise Hynd Midwyf Gladys - Original Message - From: Phillip Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: midwives G'day Denise, I'd noticed the story. And given my interest in midwifery issues I'll try to follow it up. Cheers, .. PHILLIP ADAMS -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Midwives Insurance Report
Dear Sean Murphy Thank you for airing your report on the 7.30 Report on Thursday night. However as a midwife I (and many of my colleagues) was disappointed that the medicos got to add their call for insurance coverage to be added to our case. Not only because as Prof Lesley said (midwives) high communicators with clients are the lowest risk of being sued the reverse is found with doctors who are sued. But this area for improvement is something they appear to not address in their media campaigns about their insurance difficulties! There is also another inconsistency between the doctors and our situation - medicos belong to expensive contributory defense unions NOT insurance schemes hence their exorbitant premiums. Again the differences and ramificationas are not explained but bemoaned in this ongoing uninformed media outcry. However the Guild insurance and others tar midwives with the same brush regardless of these and other facts so we and our clients suffer further whilst the status quo continues to support the medical dominance of childbirth regardless of the safety and other benefits of our care! I am saddened that the 7.30 Report did not give the public of Australia a complete undoctored (forgive the pun) report of the case for universal and equitable access to midwifery models of care as per our Tasman neighbour (NZ) ? I urge you to encourage your 4 Corners' colleagues to review the history of this national travesty, its compounding consequences and contrast with our more enlightened asman brethren? It is an indictment of the short sighted management of not only our insurance companies but of our government doe not support all Australain families to have informed and universal access to the internationally recognised most cost effective maternity care givers - Midwives! Yours sincerely Denise Hynd Denise Hynd Doubleview WA Midwife, Lactation Consultant -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
